I just vented my cap and discovered a very good way to deal with those two tiny opposing springs is to use a gob of Petroleum Jelly to retain the spring where it goes into its seat on each "arm". This will hold them in place good enough until you can squeeze them together the way they are suppose to go.
OMG you just save me lots of money. My gas cap literally came apart in pieces while riding. I never touched it since I bought it. I would have never been able to put this together without your tutorial thank you so much. Wish I could buy you dinner!
thank you so much. I could not have done the little springs without you. I wascabout to put it together without them and then found this! Made me so happy.
The two little rubber plugs in my gas cap were completely wedged and stuck in place not allowing any air into the tank without me having to open the gas cap. Thanks dear video I was able to get it apart unwedge the rubber bits and it's working now
Great video to re assemble gas cap. Screw vibrated loose and fell into tank. Lost spring while trying to reassemble, Mr. Adams addressed this but thought I could handle it, looked three hours for the spring, replaced with 3/16 X 7/8 or .775 x 22.225 x/406 Tilley comp spring and cut to length. , replace with stock screw, had to grind screw head to fit cap, total cost $4.75. works great.
Thank you sooo much, the two screws had wiggled out and the gas cap popped apart in my hands. I fished the screws out of the gas tank and used your video to put it back together! Thank you!
its pretty common thing for the screws to come loose and fall in the tank. always use lock tight on them when reassembling the cap. also a good idea to do this as precautionary maint on every yamaha gas cap
just to be clear, to make the cap vented we are supposed to remove the small bottom rubber plugs right? because you put them back in and then said its vented but unless im mistaken you unvented it by putting them back in in the video correct?
@@johnhilliard8095 nope, he never replied at all. i just made sure it was all cleaned good and put it back like it was originally. normally if it having issues its blocked by trash so if its cleaned good then it shouldnt have any issues
I was wondering the same question. I watched the video 5 times and didn't get it. So guys, I bought from Amazon aftermarket gas cap. Look the same. Soni disassembly and the difference is in the aftermarket gas cap there is no rubber plugs at all. Underneath is only one small hole. On the Oem gas cap underneath have 2 small hols. So this let me think the aftermarket is already vent it? Yes or no. If someone one i can share pictures via WhatsApp 004917661941526 And just to be clear Do we have to remove something or just clean the plugs? I will give you a tip how to fix the spring easier. Just put on little bit of fat to hold them. 😉
After watching your video I took mine apart to get at the spring for the key hole cover, I removed the spring stretched it out some and reinsalled it , the cover is snug again , iI never would have atempted it had i not come across this video, Thank You, Mr Adams
I have a 2000 siverado...what is the purpose of venting? Is'nt there a system from the factory to vent the tank?? Just curious...iv'e had no problems so far...thanks for any info
A very good post! Thank you very much! By the way, just have noticed one of the long screws is missing. Anyone know what is the size of that screw? The thread and the length? Thank you
Hi James! I was riding a motorcycle in rainy weather and the motorcycle stopped working. Stopping, I could not start it. After opening the tank plug, the sound of intake air followed and after that the engine started normally. This only happens in rainy (wet) weather. Is it due to the malfunctioning of these valves?
If you have an after market air filter, rain can be sucked in the carb causing this problem. some people will put an air filter sock over the air filter when they ride in the rain. Also water can be thrown up on the coils causing you to lose spark. I've had this happen to me a few times. Just pull the connecters and apply dialectical grease to the connectors
I took mine apart before watching this. I wondered where my bearing came from! Thank you, let me reinstall it. I must have a modified cap already, so I doubt the issue I’m having is a vent issue. Oh well
To avoid fuel leaks just don’t vent your gas cap It’s completely unnecessary, imagine thinking the gas tank doesn’t have a vent tube from the factory tucked under the dash…
Got to the gas station and couldn't get the cap out. Went home and got messing with it, got it out and one of the screws was amiss. The whole thing fell apart on me, so handy that you had this video up so's I could figure out how to put it back together. Got the missing screw out of the tank with a magnet. Bet yo azz I put Locktite on 'em before putting back in. Thanks for the help. Enjoy Peace
Just remove the two rubber plugs only and then place it back the plastic plugs in place? or need to remove the plastic plugs as well? im going pumpless on my 01 roadie sir thanks
@@roadstarmadness657 it’s not necessary at all even though guys that delete the fuel pump think it won’t gravity feed the carb without doing it I assume they think the tank isn’t vented from the factory, at a minimum run a paper clip through the vent tube nipple under the dash and make sure it’s clear of varnish or debris, also there’s a roll over valve at the end of the rubber vent tube connected to that nipple that’s prone to sticking closed after 20 years of service and can be deleted. But this idea of venting the gas cap is unfounded and ludicrous…imagine thinking that the gas tank is somehow not vented from the factory… smh…
Had to have my tank lined and my tank vent got plugged. pressure sucks my tank in with the cap locked. venting the cap may solve my issue with the tank pressure.
Clear the vent tube under the dash with a paper clip and follow the rubber tube connected to it down by the seat and delete the roll over valve (check valve) that’s prone to sticking closed after 20 years of service then blow the rubber hose clear before connecting it back to the nipple under the dash…venting the gas cap is ludicrous…
One of the rubber plugs at 2:11 seconds is missing form mine. I think someone was trying to mess with my gas cap as it was all loose this morning. Would having a plug missing do damage
When I took this out, found one metal ball bearing, couldn't find where it goes, does anybody knows where it goes? Does anybody know the size of the long screw holding this? Sorry, I lost one of them, not sure if went in to tank or out side :-( looking for a replacement
Another person commented that if you remove those little rubber pieces, you should put a ball bearing in its place to keep from gas spilling out if you tilt your bike to much
FRED DAVIS AKA DOG start with the regulator. It's most likely the issue.. the tests are long and confusing and I spent a lot of time Tearing my bike apart and ordering parts just to replace a stator that wasn't bad. eBay has em cheap. Long story short, I have an entire new charging system bc a $30 easily accessible part went out. Now I'm out at least $250.
Heya Chaos. Although I'm sure Fred has his problems figured out by now, here's a link for future reference. You don't have to take the side cover off to do the tests. You want to measure ohms across the three combinations of wires from the stator, continuity to make sure its not grounding out between ground and each of the three wires, and with engine running, check AC current across all three combinations of the stator wires. Enjoy Peace th-cam.com/video/5v2LtHlvcqI/w-d-xo.html
New here, and new owner of 2006 VStar 1100 Custom. Gas cap...only has ONE screw, and in the other screw hole there is a ball bearing. When I put the cap on it is loose...seems a little too loose. Any suggestions? Did someone before me do a recommended mod or to I need to rebuild it? Thanks!!!
Same question here. Which two rubber plugs are supposed to be left out? The two you didnt show removing in the beginning, or the two under the plastic plugs?
What on earth do those little plastics pieces do? The ones that have like three little splines.. I’ve been thinking this through all day and can’t come up with any thoughts on it. Great video btw!
Not necessary , but they keep the fumes in the tank, also if the bike turns over it keeps fuel from leaking through the gas cap. A lot of people that go pumpless remove the plugs so their tanks have better ventilation.
@@Jadams1911 thx , then i guess they were not in place , cause a few weeks ago i had to lay down my bike , and in a few seconds much fuel was wasted ...greetz from Tremelo , Belgium
As I was driving down the highway one day on my V-Star Classic 1100 06 the gas cap blew off and landed in my crotch when I stopped I found all the pieces except for a couple the little rubber plugs and one plastic piece that went over the plug two screws fell into the tank any idea how to get them screws out of the tank?
+200papabear It's either going to be no fuel or no spark or a faulty switch. send me an email and tell me a little about when your problem started and what you've tried. jamesadams@usa.com
I`m sure it doesn`t need to be vented anymore than the factory settings!! But... this video is what I was looking for,on a road trip my girlfriends gas cap was loose,she removed it and 90% of cap was in the tank(which was full).Tried fishing out with flashlight magnet(side of highway).Way too many parts and white metal Ended up taping some of the cap onto tank (Sunday no less) Lucked out and found a chainsaw gas cap that fit good enough to get home(400 miles) Bottom line---What a fucking stupid cap setup!!!! and cost is $102
isnt the tank vented through a hose on the front top of the tank under the dash? when i pulled my tank off i tipped it a little too far and gas ran out that tube so im pretty sure these tanks are already vented.
It is not necessary if you run the bike the way it was designed, i.e. with a fuel pump. For those that remove the fuel pump, venting provides better fuel flow.
I do like your vids, but you lighting is lacking. When you show the viewers something, it cannot be seen, as there is no sufficient lighting. That sliding action, when you forward the vid, is very distracting, and cause my vision to shrew up, for one don't expect that sort of action. Also: are those rubber plugs supposed to come out and leave out? I am having the problem as to how to vent? You are not very clear on HOW or WHAT to do in order for the vent to work. Please could you clear that up for me? Thank you so much.
It allows more air into the tank. You only need to do this if you convert your bike to a pumpless system and the venting on your tank is not adequate causing the bike to bog down from vapor lock.
I just vented my cap and discovered a very good way to deal with those two tiny opposing springs is to use a gob of Petroleum Jelly to retain the spring where it goes into its seat on each "arm". This will hold them in place good enough until you can squeeze them together the way they are suppose to go.
OMG you just save me lots of money. My gas cap literally came apart in pieces while riding. I never touched it since I bought it. I would have never been able to put this together without your tutorial thank you so much. Wish I could buy you dinner!
thank you so much. I could not have done the little springs without you. I wascabout to put it together without them and then found this! Made me so happy.
The two little rubber plugs in my gas cap were completely wedged and stuck in place not allowing any air into the tank without me having to open the gas cap. Thanks dear video I was able to get it apart unwedge the rubber bits and it's working now
great tutorial, I took apart but couldn't put together those springs, your video helped me to put together those and back now.
Great video to re assemble gas cap. Screw vibrated loose and fell into tank. Lost spring while trying to reassemble, Mr. Adams addressed this but thought I could handle it, looked three hours for the spring, replaced with 3/16 X 7/8 or .775 x 22.225 x/406 Tilley comp spring and cut to length. , replace with stock screw, had to grind screw head to fit cap, total cost $4.75. works great.
Thank you sooo much, the two screws had wiggled out and the gas cap popped apart in my hands. I fished the screws out of the gas tank and used your video to put it back together! Thank you!
its pretty common thing for the screws to come loose and fall in the tank. always use lock tight on them when reassembling the cap. also a good idea to do this as precautionary maint on every yamaha gas cap
Excellent work, I repaired my bike lock with the help of your video
just to be clear, to make the cap vented we are supposed to remove the small bottom rubber plugs right? because you put them back in and then said its vented but unless im mistaken you unvented it by putting them back in in the video correct?
Same question
I was wondering the same thing did you ever get an answer?
@@johnhilliard8095 nope, he never replied at all. i just made sure it was all cleaned good and put it back like it was originally. normally if it having issues its blocked by trash so if its cleaned good then it shouldnt have any issues
I was wondering the same question. I watched the video 5 times and didn't get it. So guys, I bought from Amazon aftermarket gas cap. Look the same. Soni disassembly and the difference is in the aftermarket gas cap there is no rubber plugs at all. Underneath is only one small hole. On the Oem gas cap underneath have 2 small hols.
So this let me think the aftermarket is already vent it? Yes or no. If someone one i can share pictures via WhatsApp
004917661941526
And just to be clear
Do we have to remove something or just clean the plugs?
I will give you a tip how to fix the spring easier. Just put on little bit of fat to hold them. 😉
I've ~NEVER~ had an issue with my Road Star that traced back to a non-vented gas cap. I'm wondering why this is necessary?
After watching your video I took mine apart to get at the spring for the key hole cover, I removed the spring stretched it out some and reinsalled it , the cover is snug again , iI never would have atempted it had i not come across this video, Thank You, Mr Adams
Man you, my good sir, was my hero today!
I have a 2000 siverado...what is the purpose of venting? Is'nt there a system from the factory to vent the tank?? Just curious...iv'e had no problems so far...thanks for any info
A very good post! Thank you very much! By the way, just have noticed one of the long screws is missing. Anyone know what is the size of that screw? The thread and the length? Thank you
Thank you for your very detailed instructions. Good video!
Thank you so much. Watched your video a few times, then re-watch it while doing my cap. Sure hope this fixes my issue.
Thanks to you sir. Went pumpless today and your video was a big help in the process!
I'm going pumpless. Any change in performance since going pumpless? They say you will need to turn your reserve on sooner, is this true?
@@jacked-666 I've never noticed a difference. But I watch my fuel gage. And it does increase performance.
I read a bunch of messages about this venting and seen afew posts about putting a ball bearing in, what size ball???
Can you put a tiny dab of grease on that spring to keep it in place on the plate while you put the slider over it?
Hi James! I was riding a motorcycle in rainy weather and the motorcycle stopped working. Stopping, I could not start it. After opening the tank plug, the sound of intake air followed and after that the engine started normally. This only happens in rainy (wet) weather. Is it due to the malfunctioning of these valves?
If you have an after market air filter, rain can be sucked in the carb causing this problem. some people will put an air filter sock over the air filter when they ride in the rain. Also water can be thrown up on the coils causing you to lose spark. I've had this happen to me a few times. Just pull the connecters and apply dialectical grease to the connectors
Great Video! Helped me with my gas cap. Only cost me a new bolt at Menards. Thanks!
In addition, to avoid fuel leaks if the motorcycle tilts too much, a small bearing must be installed replacing the small rubbers that were removed.
I took mine apart before watching this. I wondered where my bearing came from! Thank you, let me reinstall it. I must have a modified cap already, so I doubt the issue I’m having is a vent issue. Oh well
To avoid fuel leaks just don’t vent your gas cap It’s completely unnecessary, imagine thinking the gas tank doesn’t have a vent tube from the factory tucked under the dash…
Got to the gas station and couldn't get the cap out. Went home and got messing with it, got it out and one of the screws was amiss. The whole thing fell apart on me, so handy that you had this video up so's I could figure out how to put it back together. Got the missing screw out of the tank with a magnet. Bet yo azz I put Locktite on 'em before putting back in.
Thanks for the help.
Enjoy Peace
thanks my friend. took mine apart and was kinda lost as to how to put back together. until i saw the video...
Are you removing the rubber plugs for the venting? I'm having a hard time determining what you've done to make it vented.
Yes just remove the rubber plugs to vent the gas cap. I was showing how to remove them, I reinstalled them in the video
Ok, so rubber plugs stay out for venting, do the plastic plugs go back in or do the rubber and plastic plugs stay out for vented?
I had no idea there was so much stuff inside a gas cap. Think I'd opt to just buy one, if a vented cap (for my application) was needed.
Do you think a 95 Yamaha Virago XV 535 would have the plugs too? I have a vent cap also..
I'm not sure but its possible
@@Jadams1911 thanks
Just remove the two rubber plugs only and then place it back the plastic plugs in place? or need to remove the plastic plugs as well? im going pumpless on my 01 roadie sir thanks
Can you post a video of the steps necessary to go pumpless?
FYI venting the gas cap is not a necessary step to deleting the fuel pump the tank is vented from the factory…
I'm sorry but, what is this for? Meaning why you take it apart? and what is pumpless? Thanks
they take off the electric fuel pump, gravity will feed gas. But u need to vent the cap for it to work properly
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@@roadstarmadness657 it’s not necessary at all even though guys that delete the fuel pump think it won’t gravity feed the carb without doing it I assume they think the tank isn’t vented from the factory, at a minimum run a paper clip through the vent tube nipple under the dash and make sure it’s clear of varnish or debris, also there’s a roll over valve at the end of the rubber vent tube connected to that nipple that’s prone to sticking closed after 20 years of service and can be deleted. But this idea of venting the gas cap is unfounded and ludicrous…imagine thinking that the gas tank is somehow not vented from the factory… smh…
Had to have my tank lined and my tank vent got plugged. pressure sucks my tank in with the cap locked. venting the cap may solve my issue with the tank pressure.
I tried this on the new cap and ruined it. the screw snapped and came out on first attempt.
did you get your tank fixed. mine caved in imploded", I can fix the exterior but thinking about how can line interior of tank
Clear the vent tube under the dash with a paper clip and follow the rubber tube connected to it down by the seat and delete the roll over valve (check valve) that’s prone to sticking closed after 20 years of service then blow the rubber hose clear before connecting it back to the nipple under the dash…venting the gas cap is ludicrous…
This cap is insanely designed. You need 4 hands shaped like tweezers to put this freaking thing back together.
One of the rubber plugs at 2:11 seconds is missing form mine. I think someone was trying to mess with my gas cap as it was all loose this morning. Would having a plug missing do damage
No it will not cause any damage. it just allows more air into the tank.
why would you need to vent the gas cap
You don’t, the tank is vented from the factory yet some guys erroneously think it aids in fuel flow when deleting the fuel pump…
James, what about using a center punch to make holes in the filler neck of the tank? This is what some other owners have done.
I did that but it was to get more gas into the tank easier.
Where can I buy those hex screws?
This was extremely helpful !
Thanks for the video
Dude step by step great video thanks
When I took this out, found one metal ball bearing, couldn't find where it goes, does anybody knows where it goes? Does anybody know the size of the long screw holding this? Sorry, I lost one of them, not sure if went in to tank or out side :-( looking for a replacement
Another person commented that if you remove those little rubber pieces, you should put a ball bearing in its place to keep from gas spilling out if you tilt your bike to much
can you do a video on how to test the stator to see if its going bad
FRED DAVIS AKA DOG start with the regulator. It's most likely the issue.. the tests are long and confusing and I spent a lot of time Tearing my bike apart and ordering parts just to replace a stator that wasn't bad. eBay has em cheap. Long story short, I have an entire new charging system bc a $30 easily accessible part went out. Now I'm out at least $250.
Heya Chaos. Although I'm sure Fred has his problems figured out by now, here's a link for future reference. You don't have to take the side cover off to do the tests. You want to measure ohms across the three combinations of wires from the stator, continuity to make sure its not grounding out between ground and each of the three wires, and with engine running, check AC current across all three combinations of the stator wires.
Enjoy Peace
th-cam.com/video/5v2LtHlvcqI/w-d-xo.html
New here, and new owner of 2006 VStar 1100 Custom. Gas cap...only has ONE screw, and in the other screw hole there is a ball bearing. When I put the cap on it is loose...seems a little too loose. Any suggestions? Did someone before me do a recommended mod or to I need to rebuild it? Thanks!!!
You may be missing a screw, it could have falling inside the gas tank or someone may have done a mod.
How did you invent the gas cap you just took it apart and put it back together
I was just showing how to remove the rubber plugs in the gas cap to vent it if you ever want to go pumpless.
@@Jadams1911 Which plugs do you leave out... the big ones? or the small ones... I was going to ask you the same question Bizzel0420 asked.
@@davidstipek Just remove the 2 small rubber plugs.
Same question here. Which two rubber plugs are supposed to be left out? The two you didnt show removing in the beginning, or the two under the plastic plugs?
Nice video
What on earth do those little plastics pieces do? The ones that have like three little splines.. I’ve been thinking this through all day and can’t come up with any thoughts on it. Great video btw!
when the key is turned does the part that spins glide on those plastic pieces ?
@@paulacabbo466 no idea. All I know is when they fall in the tank it’s a pain in the ass to get them out since a magnet can’t get them
cap fell apart in my tank ... cant find the rubber plugs... are they really
necessary ??
Not necessary , but they keep the fumes in the tank, also if the bike turns over it keeps fuel from leaking through the gas cap. A lot of people that go pumpless remove the plugs so their tanks have better ventilation.
@@Jadams1911 thx , then i guess they were not in place , cause a few weeks ago i had to lay down my bike , and in a few seconds much fuel was wasted ...greetz from Tremelo , Belgium
As I was driving down the highway one day on my V-Star Classic 1100 06 the gas cap blew off and landed in my crotch when I stopped I found all the pieces except for a couple the little rubber plugs and one plastic piece that went over the plug two screws fell into the tank any idea how to get them screws out of the tank?
Fish them out with a small magnet.
my rubber gasket it's all worn out. Can I replace/build that gasket ? Many thanks
If you can find the gasket kit you can rebuild it, or you can buy a new gas cap on Ebay for around $20
@@Jadams1911 Best vented gas cap? Or do they need to go through this process too? (Chinese aftermarkets)
hey james is there anyway to contact you by email question is i have a 99 star 1600 it cranks but wont start do you have any idea?
+200papabear It's either going to be no fuel or no spark or a faulty switch. send me an email and tell me a little about when your problem started and what you've tried. jamesadams@usa.com
Omni petrol tank cap exit petrol leak
I`m sure it doesn`t need to be vented anymore than the factory settings!!
But... this video is what I was looking for,on a road trip my girlfriends gas cap was loose,she removed it and 90% of cap was in the tank(which was full).Tried fishing out with flashlight magnet(side of highway).Way too many parts and white metal
Ended up taping some of the cap onto tank (Sunday no less)
Lucked out and found a chainsaw gas cap that fit good enough to get home(400 miles)
Bottom line---What a fucking stupid cap setup!!!! and cost is $102
www.ebay.com/itm/Petrol-Fuel-Gas-Tank-Cap-Lock-For-Yamaha-XVZ1300-XV1600-XV1700-Road-Star-XV1900/232486695723?hash=item362149732b:g:LWsAAOSwMK9aO8fS
I hope you never have to replace your gas cap, as they are very expensive to replace, try more than a hundred dollars, for a Road Star.......
Why vent the gas cap, how does taking it apart and putting it back together do that?
When you go pumpless, Removing the rubber plugs in the gas cap allows for better gas flow.
isnt the tank vented through a hose on the front top of the tank under the dash? when i pulled my tank off i tipped it a little too far and gas ran out that tube so im pretty sure these tanks are already vented.
Why would this be necessary? Do the Yamaha engineers not know how to design a gas cap?
It is not necessary if you run the bike the way it was designed, i.e. with a fuel pump. For those that remove the fuel pump, venting provides better fuel flow.
Thanks bro.. 🤝
Very good.
I do like your vids, but you lighting is lacking.
When you show the viewers something, it cannot be seen, as there is no sufficient lighting.
That sliding action, when you forward the vid, is very distracting, and cause my vision to shrew up, for one don't expect that sort of action.
Also: are those rubber plugs supposed to come out and leave out?
I am having the problem as to how to vent?
You are not very clear on HOW or WHAT to do in order for the vent to work.
Please could you clear that up for me?
Thank you so much.
Thanks nong!
Thanks mahn..
Do miss it. I can not see any laning
I get it.. leave the rubber plugs out to vent, yes?
Yes, leave the rubber plugs out to vent your gas cap
@@Jadams1911 do you put the plastic ones back?
can not see any cleaning
Whats the point of doing this?
It allows more air into the tank.
You only need to do this if you convert your bike to a pumpless system and the venting on your tank is not adequate causing the bike to bog down from vapor lock.
With that said, what's the benefits of going pump less?
@@s14slide less things to go wrong and looks really nice and neat without the pump
Thankyouuuuu soooo muchhhhhh!!!
Too much thanks bro .....
Tqs bro so hely me video