Commented the same thing and amount! 😂 Stern turning into EA Sports of gaming. The passion and creativity is not felt in these new machines. License and art slapped on a playfield they have next on the line.
Yeah... if we were going with $500 BK:SoR topper fairly being $600 with +20% inflation... this feels like "plastic and LEDs" stuff should be $300-350.. I would have considered Foo Fighters topper for $650-ish... so it being $2000 made the decision easy.
Yeah $150 is the max i'd be willing too pay for this piece of plastic lit with a couple of aliexpress led strips. Anything above that price is way too much 😁
The last time I saw something “lenticular” was literally in a box of Peanut Butter Cap’n Crunch when I was a kid. I was shocked to see they still _made_ stuff outta that.
Exactly what I thought when I saw the reveal this morning. I’m not numb to this, so my reaction is wow, they sunk even deeper into ridiculousness! I think this opens the door even wider now for after market toppers. I always get the manufacturer topper for my games, but if I owned a Jaws, it would be the first time I did not purchase one. I would be more inclined to purchase a topper from electric playground that has the shark chasing a ball around in circles.
I think this is just topper 1. Knapp posted that there were 2 coming. I even saw an option for shark attack topper in a manual someone posted on pinside. I thought this was pretty early. Maybe the other one comes out with the 50th anniversary next year?
This is Jaws, freaking Jaws. Of all properties you'd think this would get some special treatment. I can't imagine how badly they are going to phone it in for Wick.
Toppers. I can take them or leave them. I do agree with the Black Knight topper, my favorite for sure. As far as Jaws, which I love playing, The topper should be much more in my opinion. You telling me you can't have a big ass shark up there showing his teeth? C'mon man. People be breaking out their 3D printers and making their own.
@4:45 Cary isn't but is talking about Zach at Flip N Out Pinball. Cary no Shill Zach Giant Shill. They could've had a giant fuckin shark eating a boat or a ball with moving jaws and made a profit and had happy customers. Instead they choose to take a giant dump on their customers like always.
I got the BK topper way back when for $500. It’s the only Stern topper I have. I would never have paid the new price. I’d love to get the one for Elvira, but not for $1k. Can I afford it? Probably, but when I want to get overcharged I’ll go to Disney World. Otherwise, if I want a topper, I usually go to Tilttopper. Despite the long wait, he makes a great product.
The main thing you’re paying for with this topper is all of the lighting/rgb integration which they are obviously overcharging for. I may get it, but really it should be $500 and that even seems slightly expensive.
I’m at the 9m mark. Licensor relationships is a partnership. Not sure of Sterns deal, but could be 10% to 30% of wholesale or MSRP. Not defending Stern, just saying it probably a percentage + a minimum guarantee. And maybe the topper is only percentage. Just adding that it’s probably not $50 per topper, or 1M per item, but a profit split. Ask Jody next time you’re at an event. Pretty sure he will say it’s a percentage split. I asked him, fairly certain he said percentage.
To be clear. I always appreciate you. I won’t by this $500 (max) topper for $1,000. Third party topper would have more value even if it was over priced! Also, licensor fees are percentage + Minimum Guarantee, and the licensee job is to make them money on every related project to keep the contract renewable.
I would like to see a topper where its Jaws fin stickin out of the water going back and forth and every once in awhile Jaws pops up just like on the playfield (just not as often)
Kaneda Hardy going after Stern! Jk they deserve it. I do think the topper complements the machine. But it’s just a decoration not worth what they’re charging. A shoebox diorama is comparable to what this topper can do.
I Agree 100%. No topper should be 1000 bucks. I can somehow justify purchasing an amazing topper for 300-500 but at that price I'd rather put that money towards another pin. It doesn't help that their latest toppers are incredibly underwhelming.
I thought the girls face on the topper looked like the girl from the exorcist.. maybe it's the lenticular portion making it look weird . But an LCD screen there playing clips or showing the sign would've been much bwtter
Totally with you Cary. I feel like total stooge, as my fav theme machine, I felt the dumb need to complete imy LE 😮with topped. Why couldn't it he as good as BKSOR... what a joke again Stern.
You want the extra game code you pay. It should come with hundreds of extra shark fins that will break off during game play. They could have a shark head with a moving jaw. Just like the Black Knight moving head. Moving dragon wings on Game of Thrones..etc. A little electric motor must cost too much. Sad topper agreed.
PS: I may be done with Stern. Punted Deadpool LE, Foo Fighters LE, my Family Guy is about to go (I opened the crate 15 years ago) and I'm now considering saying goodbye to James Bond 60th Anniversary LE and Jurassic Park 30th Anniversary LE. I'm getting better value from CGC and older Bally/Williams titles.
$1,000 is just insane for any topper. Even the best ones out there shouldn't be near that much. A couple hundred bucks at most. I don't even hate the topper. I just hate the price.
Lol. So I ordered it yesterday. And I don't like toppers overall. But Jaws is my only LE. And the 1st thing I told my wife yesterday was, at least it isn't $2000. I would have preferred $500 and it looks like it's worth $250. But it be what it be. I actually kinda like it but $1000 it does seem laughable. But by God, when you see it in person!!!!
Alright. I have the topper installed. Do I like it? Quite a bit actually. Was it worth $1000? Absolutely not. Do I care? The sting of the cost will pass.
I’m a fan of the film, huge fan. And as a guy who was in my local distributors store the other day trying to decide on a new pin with my wife, Jaws was not a pick. It was ok, play on location ok. This topper , is licensed from the film as Amity Island is not a real place. The billboard that is the topper is seen in the film. I’m certain this is a license issue. That being said, I’m guilty. If I had a jaws, id want the topper
I’m a pretty big fan of the film so I got the LE, it really is a great game, I’m surprised you don’t want it. It really shines when you can hear all of the music and sounds too.
I kind of like it but the price is double what it should be. I've always thought they don't like making toppers so they price them high enough to keep sales low.
Now the foo fighters topper I’d pay $1000 for even though it’s steep not no $2000 & this looks like a topper from a yard sale 😢 not even worth $200. But agree Cardy think they expect us to throw money on whatever they put out
Honestly, this feels like such a slap in the face. I am apprehensive to ever buy a new Stern again with the way they approach their customers. I’d rather cough up the one-time price of a JJP and get everything at once than to have Stern nickel and dime me to make the game look decent and still end up spending more.
No, fans can always do it better for cheaper. They don't have to pay licensing and go through licensor approval. OEM companies are looking to make a much higher margin than a fan seller will settle for.
What if $tern knows this? Why bother put in the effort, time, materials, etc. when other people will do the work for them? That's the disappointing part. I know they can do better, but it seems like they aren't even trying now.
@@CaryHardy oh they're aware. But they don't make ANY money when small customizers make unlicensed stuff. They know enough people will buy it even at crazy prices.
I am baffled.. And I can't even imagine the license holder saying no to a nice topper,,, they could have made a freaking shark jump out of the top of the machine with some cheap plastic, and it would still be way better.. problem is that if they sell just a handful of toppers they will be making enough money for it to be worthwhile. apparently pride in your work isn't a factor...
Stern is like a fast food pinball joint, serving garbage every couple of weeks. I’d rather see them spend more time on quality products than shovel out junk.
@@loubilly well that Bond topper was designed around the main 007 game, since they were designed side by side. It was hardly Elwin’s topper design. And the Maiden topper is little more than plastic and lights, it doesn’t do anything special, no wow factor.
Stern has gotten lazy and over priced. There last 3 machines have been duds, wick, jaws and venom. Im actually looking at Elton John for my next pin and i never thought i would buy a JJP
Toys story & godfather both deflated in value too. But I personally think they are both good games. EJ not my favorite them but it’s pretty good too. Steve Richie makes great games although Led Zep could have been better if he wasn’t limited..
Come on we know what this is. This is about maximizing margin and how do you that? By creating something like this. The very base minimum and likely unlock a game mode with it. Stern has gotten lazy and why shouldn't they be lazy? The create it and people buy it. They will sell out of this topper just like all their other trash toppers. And they'll keep making stuff like this because people will keep buying it.
Cary Hardy......Aint no Shill.....and we appreciate that.......
It's a Fucking Piece of backlit Cardboard for $1,000! I'm in the wrong business! It couldn't cost Stern more than $50 to make the fucking thing!
Seriously, that thing made in China is 10$ tops.
Commented the same thing and amount! 😂 Stern turning into EA Sports of gaming. The passion and creativity is not felt in these new machines. License and art slapped on a playfield they have next on the line.
This is when the 3 D printer comes out! With the added mechanical gears and LEDs to Make a real work of Art!
Topper not that bad it should be 300 bucks tops no 1k
Yeah... if we were going with $500 BK:SoR topper fairly being $600 with +20% inflation... this feels like "plastic and LEDs" stuff should be $300-350.. I would have considered Foo Fighters topper for $650-ish... so it being $2000 made the decision easy.
at $300 it would at least be acceptable but still overpriced lol
Yeah $150 is the max i'd be willing too pay for this piece of plastic lit with a couple of aliexpress led strips. Anything above that price is way too much 😁
They should've had a model of the shark taking a bit out of the boat for a topper.
Just do a search for mcfarlane jaws
You would think... At this point they just don't fucking care.
The last time I saw something “lenticular” was literally in a box of Peanut Butter Cap’n Crunch when I was a kid. I was shocked to see they still _made_ stuff outta that.
Stern charges $1500 for that fucking black knight topper now...
Hey give Stern credit at least it's not a thous......oh never mind. Fire away!
Bottom of the barrel level of creativity.
WOW THEY SHIT THE BED ON THIS!
Exactly what I thought when I saw the reveal this morning. I’m not numb to this, so my reaction is wow, they sunk even deeper into ridiculousness!
I think this opens the door even wider now for after market toppers. I always get the manufacturer topper for my games, but if I owned a Jaws, it would be the first time I did not purchase one. I would be more inclined to purchase a topper from electric playground that has the shark chasing a ball around in circles.
I think this is just topper 1. Knapp posted that there were 2 coming. I even saw an option for shark attack topper in a manual someone posted on pinside. I thought this was pretty early. Maybe the other one comes out with the 50th anniversary next year?
This is Jaws, freaking Jaws. Of all properties you'd think this would get some special treatment. I can't imagine how badly they are going to phone it in for Wick.
See what Tilt topper does. But you have to wait quite a while.
Never mind it's already out for 620 bucks and pretty cool.
Toppers. I can take them or leave them. I do agree with the Black Knight topper, my favorite for sure. As far as Jaws, which I love playing, The topper should be much more in my opinion. You telling me you can't have a big ass shark up there showing his teeth? C'mon man. People be breaking out their 3D printers and making their own.
@4:45 Cary isn't but is talking about Zach at Flip N Out Pinball. Cary no Shill Zach Giant Shill. They could've had a giant fuckin shark eating a boat or a ball with moving jaws and made a profit and had happy customers. Instead they choose to take a giant dump on their customers like always.
I got the BK topper way back when for $500. It’s the only Stern topper I have. I would never have paid the new price. I’d love to get the one for Elvira, but not for $1k. Can I afford it? Probably, but when I want to get overcharged I’ll go to Disney World. Otherwise, if I want a topper, I usually go to Tilttopper. Despite the long wait, he makes a great product.
Is it waterproof ?
it's plastic so...
I am surprised it's only 1000 dollars for the topper
Yeah same here.
The main thing you’re paying for with this topper is all of the lighting/rgb integration which they are obviously overcharging for. I may get it, but really it should be $500 and that even seems slightly expensive.
Great opportunity for the aftermarket produce their own toppers with more features.
BOOM!
I’m at the 9m mark. Licensor relationships is a partnership. Not sure of Sterns deal, but could be 10% to 30% of wholesale or MSRP.
Not defending Stern, just saying it probably a percentage + a minimum guarantee. And maybe the topper is only percentage.
Just adding that it’s probably not $50 per topper, or 1M per item, but a profit split.
Ask Jody next time you’re at an event. Pretty sure he will say it’s a percentage split. I asked him, fairly certain he said percentage.
To be clear.
I always appreciate you.
I won’t by this $500 (max) topper for $1,000.
Third party topper would have more value even if it was over priced!
Also, licensor fees are percentage + Minimum Guarantee, and the licensee job is to make them money on every related project to keep the contract renewable.
I would like to see a topper where its Jaws fin stickin out of the water going back and forth and every once in awhile Jaws pops up just like on the playfield (just not as often)
I don’t find the value In toppers as it relates to the prices. I pass on all unless they ever make one for under $500.
Oh, they care very much! About that bottom line. Maximum price for minimum goods.
A little of topic, what mic are you using?
Shure MV7
@@CaryHardy Thank you! Always great content!
I don't own a Stern but when I saw this topper I was like really that's it. I would never pay that much for a topper that only does that.
Pinside is off the Air ! Call the President. Hire Quint to save Pinside.
No shark on the topper for the shark game??
Kaneda Hardy going after Stern! Jk they deserve it.
I do think the topper complements the machine. But it’s just a decoration not worth what they’re charging. A shoebox diorama is comparable to what this topper can do.
Oh please do a skit!! I love the skits!! Do the office scene with the boss again! Please please pleeeeeeease
I Agree 100%. No topper should be 1000 bucks. I can somehow justify purchasing an amazing topper for 300-500 but at that price I'd rather put that money towards another pin. It doesn't help that their latest toppers are incredibly underwhelming.
I thought the girls face on the topper looked like the girl from the exorcist.. maybe it's the lenticular portion making it look weird . But an LCD screen there playing clips or showing the sign would've been much bwtter
When I saw it 'turn red' in the video... I didn't pay enough attention. I thought it was a video on a LCD panel... I was wrong...
@slinger2112 Lol ..exactly..you were expecting an LCD screen just like I was the first time I saw the video
Totally with you Cary. I feel like total stooge, as my fav theme machine, I felt the dumb need to complete imy LE 😮with topped. Why couldn't it he as good as BKSOR... what a joke again Stern.
Stern definitely taking the piss now.😂😂😂
You want the extra game code you pay. It should come with hundreds of extra shark fins that will break off during game play. They could have a shark head with a moving jaw. Just like the Black Knight moving head. Moving dragon wings on Game of Thrones..etc. A little electric motor must cost too much. Sad topper agreed.
They are getting Venom owners ready for 2000 dollar topper.
Never thought they'd be able to one down the Jurassic Park topper. I've been proven wrong. The price should be half of the list price, at the highest.
PS: I may be done with Stern. Punted Deadpool LE, Foo Fighters LE, my Family Guy is about to go (I opened the crate 15 years ago) and I'm now considering saying goodbye to James Bond 60th Anniversary LE and Jurassic Park 30th Anniversary LE.
I'm getting better value from CGC and older Bally/Williams titles.
FYI - My premium style sandwiches include Bread & butter .
So this is the same price as the Labyrinth topper? 😅
If only it was possible to make an epic topper for a grand! It's a MYSTERY! Maybe we need SCOOBY DOO to solve the case xD
$1,000 is just insane for any topper. Even the best ones out there shouldn't be near that much. A couple hundred bucks at most.
I don't even hate the topper. I just hate the price.
Lol. So I ordered it yesterday. And I don't like toppers overall. But Jaws is my only LE. And the 1st thing I told my wife yesterday was, at least it isn't $2000. I would have preferred $500 and it looks like it's worth $250. But it be what it be. I actually kinda like it but $1000 it does seem laughable. But by God, when you see it in person!!!!
Alright. I have the topper installed.
Do I like it? Quite a bit actually.
Was it worth $1000? Absolutely not.
Do I care? The sting of the cost will pass.
If fan of movie 🍿🎥 its spot on actually really good 👍
I’m a fan of the film, huge fan. And as a guy who was in my local distributors store the other day trying to decide on a new pin with my wife, Jaws was not a pick. It was ok, play on location ok.
This topper , is licensed from the film as Amity Island is not a real place. The billboard that is the topper is seen in the film. I’m certain this is a license issue. That being said, I’m guilty. If I had a jaws, id want the topper
I’m a pretty big fan of the film so I got the LE, it really is a great game, I’m surprised you don’t want it. It really shines when you can hear all of the music and sounds too.
I don't care about toppers, never have...if i had a Jaws, I would probably just stick a giant stuffed shark on top.
The first thing Stern thinks when doing playfields or toppers: How can we do this with flat plastics?
They have to pay for the new factory😂
Definitely should be $499 or $599.
$4.99
As if they couldn’t have an ocean effect with a fin going back and forth and a shark popping up then and now!?
I miss when cary hardy videos weren't just rants about games he doesn't like the theme for anyway. Your Earthshaker is amazing tho.
I kind of like it but the price is double what it should be. I've always thought they don't like making toppers so they price them high enough to keep sales low.
They probably don't even make them made in China cost like $100 probably or less lol.
I think its a cool topper. But the price should be $250 at the most.
F Stern.
Looks pretty cool imo. Wayyyy to much money though, no doubt.
You actually watched 8 mile to the end?!
Many years ago, but I remember it for the most part.
Now the foo fighters topper I’d pay $1000 for even though it’s steep not no $2000 & this looks like a topper from a yard sale 😢 not even worth $200. But agree Cardy think they expect us to throw money on whatever they put out
Oh boy..
I can get that made
Nice 39.99$ topper.
Honestly, this feels like such a slap in the face. I am apprehensive to ever buy a new Stern again with the way they approach their customers. I’d rather cough up the one-time price of a JJP and get everything at once than to have Stern nickel and dime me to make the game look decent and still end up spending more.
Exactly. $150 at the most, and that's still over priced
Elwin Games and Crummy toppers. Every. Dang. Time.
LMFAO!! Jaws and Godzilla both great games with HORRIBLE toppers.
Their cost couldn't have been more than $50.
Gary needs new chaps to wear on his Harley . Them things ain’t cheap .
No, fans can always do it better for cheaper. They don't have to pay licensing and go through licensor approval. OEM companies are looking to make a much higher margin than a fan seller will settle for.
What if $tern knows this? Why bother put in the effort, time, materials, etc. when other people will do the work for them? That's the disappointing part. I know they can do better, but it seems like they aren't even trying now.
@@CaryHardy oh they're aware. But they don't make ANY money when small customizers make unlicensed stuff. They know enough people will buy it even at crazy prices.
I am baffled.. And I can't even imagine the license holder saying no to a nice topper,,, they could have made a freaking shark jump out of the top of the machine with some cheap plastic, and it would still be way better.. problem is that if they sell just a handful of toppers they will be making enough money for it to be worthwhile. apparently pride in your work isn't a factor...
1,000 bucks they got nerve
Art blades are the best thing they showed
Art blades are the best thing they showed
Stern is ok. I fix them. They suck while they're ok. They suck though. Give me a jersey jack all day...
Most of my "high end" customers buy special toppers... exclusive stuff, this thing is WEAK.
Jaws Logo is coming 2500 but you guys will get the steal for 2,000 with the logo! So, steal away!
Waiting on this content all day… Stern is obnoxious
Pay more, get less.
I just bought a whole machine for less then that
Stern is like a fast food pinball joint, serving garbage every couple of weeks. I’d rather see them spend more time on quality products than shovel out junk.
Come on skit! Lol
I bought a Jaws decoration for $100 at a comic con last weekend....it's better than this.
A backlit crayon coloring by a 10 year old would be better than this.
Every single Elwin designed game has a mediocre topper at best. No one should be expecting a big wow factor for the topper for his games.
Bond 60th (elwin design) has a decent topper, so does iron maiden
@@loubilly well that Bond topper was designed around the main 007 game, since they were designed side by side. It was hardly Elwin’s topper design.
And the Maiden topper is little more than plastic and lights, it doesn’t do anything special, no wow factor.
I love the pinball fans whose kneejerk response to these thing is “we shouldn’t ask for better.”
@@dannysmith4649 i’m not saying you shouldn’t ask for better, I’m really just saying no one should be surprised this topper is meh.
I won't be purchasing it. But I would like to know from those who do make this purchase. Did you receive a kiss afterwards?
A BJ from Seth Davis
@@foolishheartband3096 A grand for A B J ? Oh dear...
Not a bad topper, overpriced as everything is in pinball. It will sell out, which is all that matters for Stern.
1k for that is a joke lol
Why though?? That is the lowest effort design I have ever seen. Wow.
🤣🏆💯🎖
I expect to see that on Etsy.
WTF is that? Is this REAL?
Stern has gotten lazy and over priced. There last 3 machines have been duds, wick, jaws and venom. Im actually looking at Elton John for my next pin and i never thought i would buy a JJP
Toys story & godfather both deflated in value too. But I personally think they are both good games. EJ not my favorite them but it’s pretty good too. Steve Richie makes great games although Led Zep could have been better if he wasn’t limited..
There is nothing surprising here. It's fine. It's not worth the money.
Seth Davis has ruined Stern Pinball
He should be canned. A lot of piss poor and woke decisions.
It's better than most of their toppers.
Which one is worse?
@@PubeStache Almost all stern toppers suck IMHO. they're an expensive gimmick. Deadpool, Godzilla, jurassic park, etc..
Come on we know what this is. This is about maximizing margin and how do you that? By creating something like this. The very base minimum and likely unlock a game mode with it. Stern has gotten lazy and why shouldn't they be lazy? The create it and people buy it. They will sell out of this topper just like all their other trash toppers. And they'll keep making stuff like this because people will keep buying it.
BK, Rush and Mando are pretty good toppers. Elvira could have been better. Bond was alright
Dude...this topper sucks.
I would say this was the most disappointing topper ever made.
It’s getting cheesy
Why is there no huge shark coming out of the game. People would buy that. Not this garbage
You’re so mean Cary Hardy
He's honest.
Had to be the worst topper I’ve seen!!!!!
This is all starting to get really pathetic!
Welcome to the age of low effort... a 5th grader could do a better job.
$1000 for what BOM???
Absolutely crap