I would love a Dreamcast mini but Sega does not seem interested in producing anymore minis. It's a good thing there are enough tutorials out there to build my own. Thanks for the video!
A Dreamcast mini would be awesome. But I'd go for the whole set. Master System, Saturn, Dreamcast. Each one has so much promise, but I don't think Sega is interested.
I have them all and without any doubt on my mind...the TG-16/Core Grafx/PC Engine mini is the best. This is also including the Neo Geo AES/MVS mini as well. I say this as someone who grew up with the Sega Genesis/Sega CD and Snes. I, like many others, shunned the TG-16 when it was current. I actually tried to get the TG-16 mini, but they were always sold out. I went with the Core Grafx mini in 2019. I recently took a trip to Japan and was able to get a PC Engine mini in my travels along with a PC Engine Hori turbo pad. Addendum- I would love to see a Sega Saturn mini and Master System mini.
I have the Megadrive mini, hacked with Hakchi and it’s amazing! You mentioned Aladdin & Mortal Kombat 2 being missing on the console. Well they are actually included on the device but due to likely licensing issues were not visible upon release. But installing Hakchi will reveal them as being fully playable. It’s such a great little unit that I’ve collected 4 now and hacked them all and gifted them to family and friends for Christmas to share the 16 bit love 😍
The Genesis mini 2 feels like such a missed opportunity. It is a nice product, but it absolutely needed Snatcher, Popful Mail, and the two Lunar games. They easily could have included Knuckles Chaotix as well. While that was a 32X game, this still would have been a great place to have put it. With those included, I would have happily given them $150-$200. I have multiple Genesis and Sega CD units, already. HDMI out on these mini units was their greatest strength; that and well made hardware. Wish license owners would have played a little nicer with Sega (Snatcher's license holder and the Working Designs games, specifically).
I wanted a Genesis Mini 2 But it never came to Canada and I couldn't get it shipped from Amazon US because I don't have a US address so I got screwed. Never got the Turbo mini either, again I tried to get one, damn thing got bought by scalpers who still hoard them for astronomical prices when I can just use my laptop to play those games. I sure as shit am NOT paying $400 for a mini console. Not a change in hell.
I have the Sega Genesis mini, SNES mini and PS1 mini. I have yet to buy a PC Engine mini(not planning on buying a TG16 mini), Astro Mini and NES mini. Have no plans on getting the Atari Flashback.
At 13:03 it was said the TG16 mini was going for around $100 and I really want to know where you can get one at that price.They were to be released in the US at the same time covid hit so we got very few and the minimum price I could find online at the time was $200.Now that a few years have passed I noticed they're going for $300-$350.I think I'll just stick with emulation when it comes to Turbo-Graphx 16 / PC Engine games.
That's a good point. That was a number that I didn't think to update from when I made the video back in 2020. Maybe now the best option is to emulate or get an Everdrive for the Turbografx.
No we don’t, because Brazil and Europe is probably the only regions who cares. But Brazil wont buy it. They will just bootleg it. The US is a huge market but we dgaf
I have all of these mini consoles with the exception of the Atari, I also own some of the games in these. I don't have a favorite of all of them as they all have their benefits. The Playstation Mini is the only one I actually modded/hacked and its the only one I will do that to. After hacking it and adding some games it is now actually a JOY to play as it now can have better visuals and better games played on it. I feel like of all the minis the PS1 is the only one that should have that done to it as its the only one that really needs it. This was an excellent video, it really showcases the money u can save by getting these minis from a pure enjoyment factor. There are issues of course with some games and input lag, but to me that is only the concern of maybe speed runners or purists. For the ordinary Joe Shmo tho, these minis are awesome.
I would have kept my PS Mini, but I had so much trouble modding it (which seemed so easy), that I sold it. Plus, emulation is so close now, that I'm ok with it.
I have almost ALL these mini consoles, except the Atari 50 Mini, which is a little primitive to me. Too simple and basic old fashioned. I have another mini console called the Amiga A500 Mini. Its a mini computer that FEELS like a mini home game console. I would love to one day see new mini consoles like the Sega Master System, Sega Saturn, and a proper Neo Geo Mini system without building it from a portable mini arcade cabinet. A mini Dreamcast, PS2, N64, GameCube and the original Xbox are far far of a stretch for any of those to ever materialize. We can only wish. Great history and review video here, thank you.
One other mini that you failed to look at was the Neo Geo mini, and if you really wanna get obscure, the C64 mini. Oddly the Neo Geo is shaped like an arcade cabinet and can even play the games off the tiny screen, which is a neat touch.
This was a pretty big effort. Nice work. Ido have all of these except the Atari 50. So, the older AtGames Genesis systems had some interesting roms. An early version had all three Streets of Rage plus all three Golden Axe games. Later AtGames versions did have the Mortal Kombat games. Then, the Genesis Mini 2 had some valuable titles. Needless to say the PS1 Mini was sad, but it is easy to mod without changing the base console, so I did. I also have a few others like Ataris and ColecoVision. It is by far the best way to legally own hundreds or roms cheap. I like owning physical games but some are just too costly. Ultimately, every mini I purchased was well worth it.
9:50 Unlike the SNES, the Mega Drive did get Lethal Enforcers II: Gun Fighters. It and the first Lethal Enforcers would have been good picks as the mini consoles' sole rail shooters.
I have a NES, SNES, Mega Drive and the Japanese Neo Geo Mini. Of these devices, I spent the most hours on the Neo Geo Mini. That is my favorite. But really, I would recommend anyone interested in this type of device to get an Evercade. Then you can decide for yourself what your library looks like.
30:15 It's supposed to replicate the system menu if no game software is inserted. Remember? (I think it would've been better if any of the demo disc interfaces got reused for the game selection screen or something. The one from 2000-2002 would work well.)
29:00 You got that right, but I'd avoid games that have better versions on Dreamcast. Mr.Driller and Rainbow Six show. My picks would be Time Crisis, Lethal Enforcers I & II, Earthworm Jim II, Mortal Kombat II, Mega Man X3, Mickey's Wild Adventure (if Disney is fine with that), International Superstar Soccer Deluxe, DanceDanceRevolution KONAMIX, Guilty Gear, The King of Fighters '97 or '98, and (maybe) Psychic Force 2.
I didn't get the NES Classic the first time around but I did get it in late 2017 during the second shipment. I was also very fortunate to get the SNES Classic that same year. Gladly, my local GameStop had some available. I still have them to this day. I also have the Sega Genesis Mini, Mini 2 and the Playstation Classic. It's just a shame because the PS Classic could have been so much more. It's cool that Final Fantasy VII was part of the collection, Metal Gear Solid and Ridge Racer Type 4 but given the emulator that was used to run the games, they can play better somewhere else like the PS3 or original hardware. I remember hearing that some stores like Best Buy were trying to get rid of Playstation Classics with the purchase of a PS4. I didn't have a PlayStation growing up, but I did play games like Spyro The Dragon, Crash Bandicoot and Tomb Raider. Those games screamed PlayStation. The PS Classic was nothing more than a holiday rush job.
I am still waiting for Playstation 2 Mini. But they should implement more of the now infamously expensive games and not those which everyone and their mother already has. A Ps2 Mini with Rule of Rose, Kuon and Michigan would be instant pre-order for me. And I'm not the type to pre-order otherwise. 😄
I'm not convinced Sony would bother after the response to the first Playstation mini. If they put in more effort into it, there would be so many great games they could put onto it.
I have all of these except for the Atari one. I also have a few that you are missing. I have some other AtGames mini's: 1) The Genesis Flashback has all the mortal Kombats, Phantasy Star II, III, and IV, and some Master System games, including Phantasy Star. 2) The Legends Flashback has more Genesis stuff including Disney Games, a lot of arcade games and a decent selection of Colecovision. I also have some home computer based minis, The C64 mini and The400 mini (Atari 8bit). The mini's that I would l like to get are: 1) The Sega Astro City Mini 2) The Sega Astro City Mini V 3) The A500 Mini (Amiga) But I missed my chance and these have become very expensive. I don't have a lot of interest in the new Spectrum mini or the NeoGeo mini.
3:57 The thing I didn't like about the NES Classic is the lack of Duck Hunt as a playable game. Nintendo could have added it in, as well as a Zapper that uses the Wii Sensor Bar, and the NES Classic could have included a port to power up the Wii Sensor Bar.
It would have been cool, but I think they wanted to avoid anything but the most bare bones, plug and play set up. That was part of the appeal. I'd love a modern way to play all those light gun games though. The technology should be there!
While as a fan I agree with you, but as a business minded manager, I disagree. It’s diminishing return just to do that much modification of one game, add additional hardware enhancements to include support for light sensor and motion sensing zapper accessory just for ONE game. Then trying to make the investment costs back by charging more for the mini console. It would have costs more than $60 just for including to play Duck Hunt properly. I enjoyed it as a kid, but I’m not gonna lie, I didn’t play it that much. It got boring not after long. So, from a business costs, manufacturing and pricing standpoint, it would have been completely stupid to try to include a working and playable DuckHunt, just to make 1% of retro gamers happy who are willing to spend a in additional $60 just for 1 one.
No, dumb idea. It would have driven up the cost and ruined the appeal of a plug-n-play. The market for a version you described is small and therefore not worth it from a business perspective.
@@raultelles9896 I mean, Duck Hunt is a pretty popular NES game, so it makes no sense to exclude it. However, it would be interesting to see how Nintendo would handle Duck Hunt, Hogan's Alley and Wild Gunman for the plug-n-play consumer base, even if the cost of the mini console would go up a little more.
5:30 If I were you, I would have removed Street Fighter II' (Dash) Hyper Fighting for Lethal Enforcers. Like Duck Hunt, Lethal Enforcers is a popular shooting game. I don't get why the SNES Classic and Genesis Mini didn't include Lethal Enforcers, but I'd rather play it over a non-Super version of Street Fighter II. I mean, where is Cammy or Fei-Long?
He says the Genesis interface is the "weakest of these consoles" stating the artwork is too small. But the SNES artwork is the same size and doesn't state why he prefers the other interfaces or what other issues he has with the interface. Also, it failed to mention that you can view the spines and changing the language changes the version of the games. There is an issue with the SNES interface because it does not allow you to change games from the controller, requiring you to press the button on the console. The PS Classic also has this issue. I got the PS Classic for £30 shortly after it released and was given poor reviews. I enjoyed about half the games but alot of space was taken up with Final Fantasy's 4 discs which is something I'm not tempted to play. Other games I found unplayable were Resident Evil and Metal Gear solid, due to the poor game design. RR4 is a fun game but the input delay spoiled it. Puzzle Fighter also had delayed controls which spoiled that game too. On the plus side, the console is using PAL50 which improves the performance of the games, compared to if they were running in NTSC, achieving more consistent frame rates.
When I consider just how much I've spent on my 16 bit collection I look at the price tags for these individual systems and I almost experience what could be considered mild regret. Though I do like having my systems and physical copies on display. Regarding Sonic 3 & Knuckles, that is a head scratcher for sure. Arguably the greatest sonic game(s) ever produced. Additionally the irony that Sega failed comparatively with the system's packaging when their retrl game packaging was clearly superior.
Not for a long time. 1. Sony makes money by re selling PS2 games digitally or via subscription. 2. A PS2 mini would require powerful (Raspberry Pi6?) level of hardware, but worse than that, it would require a huge amount of storage In order to fit DVD sized roms. That means that the mini console would be very expensive to make and not worth it. These companies made the mini consoles because profit margins where huge, due to 8 to 16 bit emulation requiring almost no storage (512mb) and the same applies for the rest of the hardware. Meanwhile The PS1 mini required a bit more out of everything and if you recall Sony asked for $100 instead of the $60 the mini Nintendo and Genesis did. So unless we see some dramatic improvements on SoC and storage tech, plus dramatically lower costs, I don't forsee a Dreamcast mini or PS2 mini any time soon. Hope I'm wrong, tough.
The Super Nintendo is definitely missing a few games other than the ones you listed🎉 where is Top Gear or rock and roll racing even Mortal Kombat would have been welcomed❤
Yeah.. I have an original Super Console X. And aside from missing the Turbo Grafx/ PC Engine games (sadly missing Rondo of Blood) I can play pretty much all of these games plus literally thousands of other games (arcade games included) for under $200 bucks) I'll stick with that. There's only a handful of games like the Ninja Gaiden series and Mike Tyson's Punch out where the input lag makes them basically unplayable. I'd only opt for the Turbo Grafx/ PC Engine minis as a must buy.
Nobody thinks Golden axe 2 comes even close to the original, or even like sit that much. You are mistaken with the arcade sequel: Revenge of Death adder.
Have every mini except the turbo grafx. Have my sega mini 1 hacked with sega cd 32x and MS games. Have all of the minis hooked up to an hdmi splitter and use them to this day. We will never get another mini console unfortunately. Companies dont want us owning anything and subscription services officially killed mini consoles
Bet you don't have the C64 mini, Atari 400 mini, The Spectrum mini. Some companies still make mini consoles and they let you use roms with those 3 I mentioned as well. Plug in USB stick and away you go.
I don’t think it’s fair to compare retail value of physical games to the mini console included games, with the exception that there is where else to get those titles. Take Earth Bound, I believe you can get a digital copy of it from Nintendo Virtual Console, and play it on your Switch/3DS, etc. So, you gotta compare the digital price of these titles FIRST if they can be purchased and played digitally anywhere. Now, even if your count only the digital prices of the games that are available for purchase from Nintendo, XBOX, PSN, Steam, etc… with those lower prices, I think it’s still higher than the price of the mini console. Just not thousands or hundreds more. Like R-Type, you can buy R-Type on XBOX, Nintendo, or Sony… for less than the physical copy of them.
I didn't consider digital purchases. Some of these games aren't really available digitally so I was looking at it as if you wanted every single game on these. It would be an interesting price comparison to see how the digital numbers add up though.
@ These mini console are practically legalized ROMs played by official emulators. So their value can’t really directly be compared to physical copies. In fact , it wouldn’t stop a collector from collecting the physical copy, because due to their rarity, they are still value dispite cheaper playable alternatives can be officially purchased digitally in other platforms. So if you’re justifying the price of a mini console against the included titles,the price of the digital copies if they exist should be used as a comparative factor. Physical copies prices can be considered only if there are no way to officially purchased a licensed to play the digital copy. (Pirated ROMs do not count). Even then, it should be taken with a grain of salt, because digital ROMs are never going to be as valuable as working condition physical copies. A hard copy of Earth Bound will not drop in price just because you can buy a digital copy in Nintendo Eshop. Some physical copies maintain its high price not even because of the caliber of the game, but for some other X-factor and rarity conditions. There are bad games or non-completed games on physical copy that are worth a lot, buyers dont buy them to play them.
My list in order of greatness: 1. TurboGraFX-16 2. SNES 3. Neo Geo 4. Genesis 5. NES 6. Genesis 2 7. PlayStation 8. Atari 50 This is largely because of the games on offer for these systems, along with the delivery of menus. I didn’t really take components included or controllers. While that should be taken into account, the systems have been out long enough that anyone getting these, today, would most likely have to go to eBay, or another secondhand marketplace. Most people would have to buy what they want separately. Every one of these systems has something on offer for fans, I feel that this is the order of each, when it comes to worth owning.
SNES classic blows the sega and turbographix out of the water. They're both overpriced and missing top tier games. Sega put out the same games already avaliable everywhere. I would've paid double if it included Lunar.
I really like this video. Great detailed breakdowns of each console.
Watching this reminds me that I have the NES and SNES minis in a drawer somewhere. I should play them ....
I was saying the same thing to myself...crazy
I would love a Dreamcast mini but Sega does not seem interested in producing anymore minis. It's a good thing there are enough tutorials out there to build my own. Thanks for the video!
A Dreamcast mini would be awesome. But I'd go for the whole set. Master System, Saturn, Dreamcast. Each one has so much promise, but I don't think Sega is interested.
I have them all and without any doubt on my mind...the TG-16/Core Grafx/PC Engine mini is the best. This is also including the Neo Geo AES/MVS mini as well. I say this as someone who grew up with the Sega Genesis/Sega CD and Snes. I, like many others, shunned the TG-16 when it was current.
I actually tried to get the TG-16 mini, but they were always sold out. I went with the Core Grafx mini in 2019. I recently took a trip to Japan and was able to get a PC Engine mini in my travels along with a PC Engine Hori turbo pad.
Addendum- I would love to see a Sega Saturn mini and Master System mini.
What Sega really needs to do is allow or assist the Super Sega machine! That would sell out like crazy!
I have the Megadrive mini, hacked with Hakchi and it’s amazing!
You mentioned Aladdin & Mortal Kombat 2 being missing on the console. Well they are actually included on the device but due to likely licensing issues were not visible upon release. But installing Hakchi will reveal them as being fully playable.
It’s such a great little unit that I’ve collected 4 now and hacked them all and gifted them to family and friends for Christmas to share the 16 bit love 😍
That is interesting. I never knew that those 2 games were on there. Is that the first Genesis mini or 2nd one??
The Genesis mini 2 feels like such a missed opportunity. It is a nice product, but it absolutely needed Snatcher, Popful Mail, and the two Lunar games. They easily could have included Knuckles Chaotix as well. While that was a 32X game, this still would have been a great place to have put it. With those included, I would have happily given them $150-$200. I have multiple Genesis and Sega CD units, already. HDMI out on these mini units was their greatest strength; that and well made hardware. Wish license owners would have played a little nicer with Sega (Snatcher's license holder and the Working Designs games, specifically).
I wanted a Genesis Mini 2
But it never came to Canada and I couldn't get it shipped from Amazon US because I don't have a US address so I got screwed.
Never got the Turbo mini either, again I tried to get one, damn thing got bought by scalpers who still hoard them for astronomical prices when I can just use my laptop to play those games. I sure as shit am NOT paying $400 for a mini console. Not a change in hell.
Excellent video. !! I agree with all your comments !! You are so right about the PlayStation Mini !!
I have the Sega Genesis mini, SNES mini and PS1 mini. I have yet to buy a PC Engine mini(not planning on buying a TG16 mini), Astro Mini and NES mini. Have no plans on getting the Atari Flashback.
At 13:03 it was said the TG16 mini was going for around $100 and I really want to know where you can get one at that price.They were to be released in the US at the same time covid hit so we got very few and the minimum price I could find online at the time was $200.Now that a few years have passed I noticed they're going for $300-$350.I think I'll just stick with emulation when it comes to Turbo-Graphx 16 / PC Engine games.
That's a good point. That was a number that I didn't think to update from when I made the video back in 2020.
Maybe now the best option is to emulate or get an Everdrive for the Turbografx.
I bought one for $100 on a whim from Amazon. Thought I was dumb since I never opened it. Kinda crazy how an item just ballons in price.
We NEED a Sega Master System MINI!!! Goddammit Sega!
No we don’t, because Brazil and Europe is probably the only regions who cares. But Brazil wont buy it. They will just bootleg it. The US is a huge market but we dgaf
Right there with ya my dude.
Recently saved a CRT from the alley just to play Wonderboy
And an Odyssey 2 mini
@SoulforSale yes - I would buy that day one.
I have all of these mini consoles with the exception of the Atari, I also own some of the games in these. I don't have a favorite of all of them as they all have their benefits. The Playstation Mini is the only one I actually modded/hacked and its the only one I will do that to. After hacking it and adding some games it is now actually a JOY to play as it now can have better visuals and better games played on it. I feel like of all the minis the PS1 is the only one that should have that done to it as its the only one that really needs it. This was an excellent video, it really showcases the money u can save by getting these minis from a pure enjoyment factor. There are issues of course with some games and input lag, but to me that is only the concern of maybe speed runners or purists. For the ordinary Joe Shmo tho, these minis are awesome.
I would have kept my PS Mini, but I had so much trouble modding it (which seemed so easy), that I sold it. Plus, emulation is so close now, that I'm ok with it.
I have almost ALL these mini consoles, except the Atari 50 Mini, which is a little primitive to me. Too simple and basic old fashioned. I have another mini console called the Amiga A500 Mini. Its a mini computer that FEELS like a mini home game console. I would love to one day see new mini consoles like the Sega Master System, Sega Saturn, and a proper Neo Geo Mini system without building it from a portable mini arcade cabinet. A mini Dreamcast, PS2, N64, GameCube and the original Xbox are far far of a stretch for any of those to ever materialize. We can only wish. Great history and review video here, thank you.
One other mini that you failed to look at was the Neo Geo mini, and if you really wanna get obscure, the C64 mini. Oddly the Neo Geo is shaped like an arcade cabinet and can even play the games off the tiny screen, which is a neat touch.
There is also the Amiga mini and X68000 mini.
This was a pretty big effort. Nice work. Ido have all of these except the Atari 50.
So, the older AtGames Genesis systems had some interesting roms. An early version had all three Streets of Rage plus all three Golden Axe games. Later AtGames versions did have the Mortal Kombat games. Then, the Genesis Mini 2 had some valuable titles.
Needless to say the PS1 Mini was sad, but it is easy to mod without changing the base console, so I did. I also have a few others like Ataris and ColecoVision.
It is by far the best way to legally own hundreds or roms cheap. I like owning physical games but some are just too costly. Ultimately, every mini I purchased was well worth it.
The Mega Drive Mini 2 was relatively easily available from Amazon UK without having to mess with importing from Japan. That's where I got mine.
9:50 Unlike the SNES, the Mega Drive did get Lethal Enforcers II: Gun Fighters. It and the first Lethal Enforcers would have been good picks as the mini consoles' sole rail shooters.
Body Count is another rail shooter and one of three releases to support the Menacer on the Mega Drive.
I have a NES, SNES, Mega Drive and the Japanese Neo Geo Mini. Of these devices, I spent the most hours on the Neo Geo Mini. That is my favorite. But really, I would recommend anyone interested in this type of device to get an Evercade. Then you can decide for yourself what your library looks like.
30:15 It's supposed to replicate the system menu if no game software is inserted. Remember? (I think it would've been better if any of the demo disc interfaces got reused for the game selection screen or something. The one from 2000-2002 would work well.)
you can change the fps on the psmini by plugging in a keyboard and entering the hidden menu
29:00 You got that right, but I'd avoid games that have better versions on Dreamcast. Mr.Driller and Rainbow Six show. My picks would be Time Crisis, Lethal Enforcers I & II, Earthworm Jim II, Mortal Kombat II, Mega Man X3, Mickey's Wild Adventure (if Disney is fine with that), International Superstar Soccer Deluxe, DanceDanceRevolution KONAMIX, Guilty Gear, The King of Fighters '97 or '98, and (maybe) Psychic Force 2.
I didn't get the NES Classic the first time around but I did get it in late 2017 during the second shipment. I was also very fortunate to get the SNES Classic that same year. Gladly, my local GameStop had some available. I still have them to this day. I also have the Sega Genesis Mini, Mini 2 and the Playstation Classic. It's just a shame because the PS Classic could have been so much more. It's cool that Final Fantasy VII was part of the collection, Metal Gear Solid and Ridge Racer Type 4 but given the emulator that was used to run the games, they can play better somewhere else like the PS3 or original hardware. I remember hearing that some stores like Best Buy were trying to get rid of Playstation Classics with the purchase of a PS4. I didn't have a PlayStation growing up, but I did play games like Spyro The Dragon, Crash Bandicoot and Tomb Raider. Those games screamed PlayStation. The PS Classic was nothing more than a holiday rush job.
I am still waiting for Playstation 2 Mini. But they should implement more of the now infamously expensive games and not those which everyone and their mother already has. A Ps2 Mini with Rule of Rose, Kuon and Michigan would be instant pre-order for me. And I'm not the type to pre-order otherwise. 😄
I'm not convinced Sony would bother after the response to the first Playstation mini. If they put in more effort into it, there would be so many great games they could put onto it.
I have all of these except for the Atari one. I also have a few that you are missing. I have some other AtGames mini's:
1) The Genesis Flashback has all the mortal Kombats, Phantasy Star II, III, and IV, and some Master System games, including Phantasy Star.
2) The Legends Flashback has more Genesis stuff including Disney Games, a lot of arcade games and a decent selection of Colecovision.
I also have some home computer based minis, The C64 mini and The400 mini (Atari 8bit).
The mini's that I would l like to get are:
1) The Sega Astro City Mini
2) The Sega Astro City Mini V
3) The A500 Mini (Amiga)
But I missed my chance and these have become very expensive.
I don't have a lot of interest in the new Spectrum mini or the NeoGeo mini.
3:57 The thing I didn't like about the NES Classic is the lack of Duck Hunt as a playable game. Nintendo could have added it in, as well as a Zapper that uses the Wii Sensor Bar, and the NES Classic could have included a port to power up the Wii Sensor Bar.
It would have been cool, but I think they wanted to avoid anything but the most bare bones, plug and play set up. That was part of the appeal.
I'd love a modern way to play all those light gun games though. The technology should be there!
While as a fan I agree with you, but as a business minded manager, I disagree. It’s diminishing return just to do that much modification of one game, add additional hardware enhancements to include support for light sensor and motion sensing zapper accessory just for ONE game. Then trying to make the investment costs back by charging more for the mini console. It would have costs more than $60 just for including to play Duck Hunt properly. I enjoyed it as a kid, but I’m not gonna lie, I didn’t play it that much. It got boring not after long.
So, from a business costs, manufacturing and pricing standpoint, it would have been completely stupid to try to include a working and playable DuckHunt, just to make 1% of retro gamers happy who are willing to spend a in additional $60 just for 1 one.
No, dumb idea. It would have driven up the cost and ruined the appeal of a plug-n-play. The market for a version you described is small and therefore not worth it from a business perspective.
@@raultelles9896 I mean, Duck Hunt is a pretty popular NES game, so it makes no sense to exclude it. However, it would be interesting to see how Nintendo would handle Duck Hunt, Hogan's Alley and Wild Gunman for the plug-n-play consumer base, even if the cost of the mini console would go up a little more.
@@NewGabeOrder no
You're missing the c64, A500 and atari 400 mini.
Yeah, there will always be more. I almost got the C64 mini, but ultimately decided against it. I only have so much shelf space.
5:30 If I were you, I would have removed Street Fighter II' (Dash) Hyper Fighting for Lethal Enforcers. Like Duck Hunt, Lethal Enforcers is a popular shooting game. I don't get why the SNES Classic and Genesis Mini didn't include Lethal Enforcers, but I'd rather play it over a non-Super version of Street Fighter II. I mean, where is Cammy or Fei-Long?
He says the Genesis interface is the "weakest of these consoles" stating the artwork is too small. But the SNES artwork is the same size and doesn't state why he prefers the other interfaces or what other issues he has with the interface. Also, it failed to mention that you can view the spines and changing the language changes the version of the games.
There is an issue with the SNES interface because it does not allow you to change games from the controller, requiring you to press the button on the console. The PS Classic also has this issue.
I got the PS Classic for £30 shortly after it released and was given poor reviews. I enjoyed about half the games but alot of space was taken up with Final Fantasy's 4 discs which is something I'm not tempted to play. Other games I found unplayable were Resident Evil and Metal Gear solid, due to the poor game design. RR4 is a fun game but the input delay spoiled it. Puzzle Fighter also had delayed controls which spoiled that game too. On the plus side, the console is using PAL50 which improves the performance of the games, compared to if they were running in NTSC, achieving more consistent frame rates.
Getting a longer controller extension cord is the wrong approach for NES Classic. The better solution is to just get a longer HDMI cable.
With regards to the PlayStation games one would asume the pal versions are cheaper and as they used them on the mini. The total cost would be less.
When I consider just how much I've spent on my 16 bit collection I look at the price tags for these individual systems and I almost experience what could be considered mild regret. Though I do like having my systems and physical copies on display.
Regarding Sonic 3 & Knuckles, that is a head scratcher for sure. Arguably the greatest sonic game(s) ever produced.
Additionally the irony that Sega failed comparatively with the system's packaging when their retrl game packaging was clearly superior.
Why cant we have an actual Complete library for each system? Would love a PS1 of every Resident Evil game!
I wonder if they will ever make a PS2 mini.
Not for a long time.
1. Sony makes money by re selling PS2 games digitally or via subscription.
2. A PS2 mini would require powerful (Raspberry Pi6?) level of hardware, but worse than that, it would require a huge amount of storage In order to fit DVD sized roms. That means that the mini console would be very expensive to make and not worth it.
These companies made the mini consoles because profit margins where huge, due to 8 to 16 bit emulation requiring almost no storage (512mb) and the same applies for the rest of the hardware.
Meanwhile The PS1 mini required a bit more out of everything and if you recall Sony asked for $100 instead of the $60 the mini Nintendo and Genesis did.
So unless we see some dramatic improvements on SoC and storage tech, plus dramatically lower costs, I don't forsee a Dreamcast mini or PS2 mini any time soon. Hope I'm wrong, tough.
The Super Nintendo is definitely missing a few games other than the ones you listed🎉 where is Top Gear or rock and roll racing even Mortal Kombat would have been welcomed❤
Yeah.. I have an original Super Console X. And aside from missing the Turbo Grafx/ PC Engine games (sadly missing Rondo of Blood) I can play pretty much all of these games plus literally thousands of other games (arcade games included) for under $200 bucks) I'll stick with that. There's only a handful of games like the Ninja Gaiden series and Mike Tyson's Punch out where the input lag makes them basically unplayable. I'd only opt for the Turbo Grafx/ PC Engine minis as a must buy.
Nobody thinks Golden axe 2 comes even close to the original, or even like sit that much. You are mistaken with the arcade sequel: Revenge of Death adder.
Have every mini except the turbo grafx. Have my sega mini 1 hacked with sega cd 32x and MS games. Have all of the minis hooked up to an hdmi splitter and use them to this day. We will never get another mini console unfortunately. Companies dont want us owning anything and subscription services officially killed mini consoles
Bet you don't have the C64 mini, Atari 400 mini, The Spectrum mini.
Some companies still make mini consoles and they let you use roms with those 3 I mentioned as well. Plug in USB stick and away you go.
I don’t think it’s fair to compare retail value of physical games to the mini console included games, with the exception that there is where else to get those titles. Take Earth Bound, I believe you can get a digital copy of it from Nintendo Virtual Console, and play it on your Switch/3DS, etc. So, you gotta compare the digital price of these titles FIRST if they can be purchased and played digitally anywhere.
Now, even if your count only the digital prices of the games that are available for purchase from Nintendo, XBOX, PSN, Steam, etc… with those lower prices, I think it’s still higher than the price of the mini console. Just not thousands or hundreds more. Like R-Type, you can buy R-Type on XBOX, Nintendo, or Sony… for less than the physical copy of them.
I didn't consider digital purchases. Some of these games aren't really available digitally so I was looking at it as if you wanted every single game on these. It would be an interesting price comparison to see how the digital numbers add up though.
@ These mini console are practically legalized ROMs played by official emulators. So their value can’t really directly be compared to physical copies. In fact , it wouldn’t stop a collector from collecting the physical copy, because due to their rarity, they are still value dispite cheaper playable alternatives can be officially purchased digitally in other platforms.
So if you’re justifying the price of a mini console against the included titles,the price of the digital copies if they exist should be used as a comparative factor. Physical copies prices can be considered only if there are no way to officially purchased a licensed to play the digital copy. (Pirated ROMs do not count). Even then, it should be taken with a grain of salt, because digital ROMs are never going to be as valuable as working condition physical copies. A hard copy of Earth Bound will not drop in price just because you can buy a digital copy in Nintendo Eshop. Some physical copies maintain its high price not even because of the caliber of the game, but for some other X-factor and rarity conditions. There are bad games or non-completed games on physical copy that are worth a lot, buyers dont buy them to play them.
Just started watching and I already know the TG16 is gonna be at the top and the PS1 is on the bottom😂
If you haven’t used Hackchi on any of your mini’s, you’re not doing it right.
I have all cept the stupid atari one. Just get an mister fpga and get corresponding controllers.
I have the *Soulja Boy Console* so I'm good. All these suck compared to it. 😉😆
We should all be so lucky.
Turbo graphx 16. Hands down.
I have 😎
1. Nes mini
2. Snes mini
3. PS1 mini
4. Amiga 500 mini
My list in order of greatness:
1. TurboGraFX-16
2. SNES
3. Neo Geo
4. Genesis
5. NES
6. Genesis 2
7. PlayStation
8. Atari 50
This is largely because of the games on offer for these systems, along with the delivery of menus. I didn’t really take components included or controllers. While that should be taken into account, the systems have been out long enough that anyone getting these, today, would most likely have to go to eBay, or another secondhand marketplace. Most people would have to buy what they want separately. Every one of these systems has something on offer for fans, I feel that this is the order of each, when it comes to worth owning.
SNES classic blows the sega and turbographix out of the water. They're both overpriced and missing top tier games. Sega put out the same games already avaliable everywhere. I would've paid double if it included Lunar.