I just installed Linux for the first time on my only computer, which is a gaming laptop. I've only had it for 2 days and while some things are annoying, other things feel much better than windows.
If that's Nvidia the drivers are usually in the repos, (you might have to use command line, sudo apt install "package" or sudo dnf install "whatever") Nvidia doesn't often work out of the box since the drivers are proprietary. I don't use their products but you can definitely search for answers to get that set up. You don't need to distrohop to fix that I'm 90% sure (I don't use Nvidia tho disclaimer)
@@filiphabek271 Ubuntu does install ppa drivers by default, but the flatpak version or whatever, there are many ways to install nvidia drivers, software and updates in additional drivers section will most likely give an array of options latest,tested are recommended ones however.
@@no_name4796 Don't talk crap about Ubuntu, because I won't fall for it. I think I know more about Linux than you do, no offense intended. Only gullible fools believe that nonsense about Ubuntu being crap, I have used it before, with more than ideal results. You should do some research and testing of Ubuntu before conducting a conclusion, otherwise your just falling or believing the same crap everyone else does, which technically makes you an idiot. I'm not being mean, I'm just stating the facts and blatantly obvious.
As someone who switch over to linux mainly for productivity and programming I'm simply loving it. I'd love to see more newer laptops with linux ready drivers. Especially when the market is about to explode with the new wave of exotic designs in the upcomming years like the recently trending lenovo one with 2 displays. I'd really love to use such devices with linux and just do what i love
It is actually pretty nice. In some regards, it's also a bit easier to write custom programs and scripts to handle some tasks for you on Linux over Windows. For example, my laptop is a 2-in-1 with a removable keyboard. I am working on a script that allows screen rotations when detached, but change when reattached.
@@FlameSoulis yeah I've dabbled into some riceing. Ive wrote a few scripts and all for my current setup. I'd love to expand those and create some more advanced programs as my side projects
@@smann4935 i swiched up my window manager and a few default softwares. I also riced up terminal with zsh and configured tmux and neovim config. Im currently using Ubuntu with i3 wm. I use a really handy and light weight tool called lxrandr to manage my multi monitor setup
I purchased a refurbished laptop back in 2015 and immediately wiped Windows so I could install Mint. That laptop is still running Mint just fine. My two desktops also run Mint. The one I use for gaming has no issues with nearly 30 Steam games. As someone old enough to remember using a crank telephone to contact the operator (my phone number was 3 digits long), I had to chuckle when you showed an SSD as a computer 'essential'. My first couple of home computers didn't even have hard drives. Hopefully someday hardware companies will treat Linux with the same love us users do.
So correct with the regard to battery life. You can also use cpupower along with cpupower-gui and set the governor to power save. And leave the default boot up option to balanced.
Had countless distros on as many laptops, and never had compatibility issues. I started on Linux in 2006. I ran Ubuntu from a DVD on a desktop without HDD installed.
if you work with/view videos on your laptop another good battery saving option is to make sure that the Hardware acceleration is working for the codecs on your machine. Many distributions don't include the libraries needed by default. (for example search for Fedora firefox hardware acceleration)
For awhile, many companies followed adaptec for sound, video and network standards. That meant many outdated drivers, but a lot of different machines could use the same drivers. I would give up some functionality in exchange for widely-accepted standards.
I am very happy with my HP ELITEBOOK support for Linux (Intel CPU with GPU). Everything worked out of the box, even the fingerprint reader. The main issue with Linux is the GPU drivers and their support for hardware decoding of video content of a specific chip. I myself will never again buy a PC or laptop with Nvidia, although there are people claiming to have zero problems.
thats why i use a thinkpad T470 and it runs ubuntu 23.04 and it runs like a dream man i couldn't be fmore happy .. ubuntu is to me a really good system... good job ubuntu team!
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The only thing that I hate for Linux-in-laptops is using Gnome and their huge title bars on legacy apps, they are just NO correct
Ever since I slapped Zorin on my laptop, it has been working so quietly and fast. I like Zorin. The drivers just work compared to my past Linux experiences. It even connected to my wireless printer on its own.
As a three decade+ Linux user, I have little experience with Windows on either Laptops or Desktops and while the issues mentioned were common problems years ago, I find that to be less and less the case. I haven't experienced an unresolvable driver issue in years. I usually use either Dell or Lenovo products and either Arch or Gentoo, and I can't actually remember the last time hardware was a problem - probably a decade or more ago with Broadcom Wi-Fi adapters and that was resolved, albeit less than ideally at the time, fairly quickly. I'm currently also dual-booting Gentoo and Ventura on a MacBook Pro and aside from a noticeable (and completely expected) drop in battery life - Apple battery life being insane - and with some minor kernel customization to enable Apple specific features, Linux handles the Apple hardware easily.. I think some of the "difficulties" associated with Linux are blown a bit out of proportion. The benefits of Linux, in my opinion, far outweigh any of the problems which apparently exist but which I haven't experienced in a long, long time.
Lenovo user, ryzen 5 + 1650. (Ubuntu 22-23, Fedora 38, Pop os 22, Vanilla os)Gnome 43 - 44 freezing and window minimizing have not correct animation to right corner but panel based down. Fedora, steam start only one time after reboot, Wayland lagging every 5seconds. 530 Nvidia driver - second screen freeze if you not moving mouse on him.
Well maybe not pick a device by a company that has vested interest in seeing linux fail on the desktop ( ie Microsoft) so the camera issue on the sutface might have been a bed example
@@deloller2452 inet or ARM? I know that thjs is not helpful but atm I suppose the hw spesific code for Apples ARM might not be quirecas maturecas yhe older Intel MacBooks
I just installed Manjaro on my surface 3 after loving Arch with KDE on the steam deck. There are some great surface drivers out there, the battery life is fabulous. I'm so happy
Touchpad gestures on Laptops even entry level laptops have been the case for over a decade now but only recently has Linux, mostly PopPS, Fedora and Ubuntu have started supporting it out of the box.
I was recently given a no longer required HP Stream PC13, possibly the most underpowered laptop ever. It was running (staggering more likely) Windows 8.1 which was immediately deleted and I installed Linux Mint Cinammon. It now flies along. Nothing wrong with Linux. All you have to do is find the the one that suits your needs. There's lots to choose from and it's surprisingly easy to install. 😊
I must be a lucky sod, as the last three laptops I've installed Linux (Mint) on have worked quite well. Like any OS, Linux likes an SSD to boot from, and extra RAM to work with.
I bought my kid laptop, we put Nobara on it, half a year later neither of us regrets it. The experience on tried and true distros is probably even more stable and user-friendly.
I highly recommend buying a new SSD and then slapping a Linux distro on it. That way it is super easy to revert to the prior OS if needed. SSDs are super cheap. I usually buy a new SSD every 2 years or so and try a new OS.
7:40 "It also never gets boring." I personally think that this is a problem for Linux. Most people want their device to just work, or simply put "be boring". Sure, in Linux there should (and likely will) always be a distro which is always interesting (e.g. Arch), we currently don't really have a "boring" one.
@@aggelosmots Quite frankly, Debian with apps in Flatpaks + a semi-rolling kernel (the latter entirely because of drivers...) would be quite an interesting distro and probably quite liked as well.
installed mint on a geoflex 230, couldn't be happier with my decision, perks with my decision full metal body laptop, 4gb ram, touchscreen and it had an upgradable ssd (which is odd for a low end system usually it's a soldered chip) use it mostly for browsing, ssh, programming, word processing, youtube and a daily driver
It's okay. Supposedly battery life is worse but some DE's like GNOME and Plasma have power saver modes which, while destroying performance in stuff like games and graphical things, can run for quite some time. My low-end laptop lasted like 25 minutes on 0% while running a VM.
I installed linux in my laptop because I was not able to use it as a drawing machine. CSP, SAI, EVEN KRITA had problems with this ASUS laptop and was about to sell it. Then decided to install Mint and it worked amazing. The battery life got 1 more hour, THE BLUETOOTH WORKS!!!! And the general temperature went down even when plugged.
My laptop was originally my wife's until she upgraded. So on it, as a little experiment to try to preserve battery life between charges, I installed Debian Stable NetInstall and use the Openbox window manager. On my desktop box, I use Debian Stable with Xfce.
I just bought a brand new laptop and my best advice is to do some serious research before you buy. I did that and my experience with running Linux Mint on it, has been 97.3% painless thus far. Other advice (doesn't apply to laptops which ship with Linux): - Don't buy a new laptop specifically for Linux if you're not at least reasonably proficient with Linux. - Expect to compile some drivers. If it turns out you don't need to, it's great but prepare yourself for it.
I run Peppermint OS on Toshiba and Dell laptops with only 4 GB of RAM. Runs quick and fine. Can never do that with Windows 10. And I have AntiX running on an old netbook with only 2GB of RAM and an Atom CPU. It uses only 150MB of RAM to boot! It extended its life and kept it out of the trash. Remarkable.
The problem is complete drivers and apps that go with it. Take a look at the AMD drivers, they work in Linux without many issues. But they also dont have the capture, overclocking, etc software that is included with Windows versions of their drivers/software. Same goes with some web cams, headsets, etc. They work, but 90% of their extra features are not available because of the missing software for Linux.
I've had a really good experience with Manjaro running on my old HP Elite Desk HP G1. It's given the old beast an second lease on life. Especially since so many apps on the Manjaro store are light on ram consumption. So the 16gb max ram on the HP Elite Desk G1 isn't as much of an issue.
I can't get hardware acceleration in chromium based browsers, both on Fedora and Debian distros (ubuntu, mint and pop os). In media players I get it without problem. If it wasn't for this reason I would leave Windows once and for all.
yeah as much as I hate to say it I can understand because stuff like wifi adapters, cameras, mouses, and keyboards are usually connect via usb/bluetooth on computers and there are more choices where as on a laptop they have to be way more constrained and so many different models, so I can see why it is hard. I do know some big manufacturers like dell and lenovo (specifically thinkpad lineup) have flagships with available linux support. It is getting a lot better though. (for context I use fedora on a framework laptop and before used ubuntu on an old macbook air after it got really old)
I don't know how about anybody else , but tiling window manager with cpupower script works 25% longer than windows 10, and has flawless experience in work (except probably how well some governor drivers work out of the box and microphone quality)
Well i had a laptop which had windows 8, and yes it was horrendous. So during the pandamic we got unlimited wifi and upgraded it to windows 10, and then i got introduced to linux, then i tried Ubuntu, mint, pop, zorin, MX and finally settled on mint but you may not believe just yesterday my laptop got involved in a freak accident and now it's rest in peace But i enjoyed my time using linux. And that laptop never gave me any issues except for the DVD drive which i later replaced with a hhd caddy
I bought a full hd screen laptop with a 256gb ssd, 8gb ram and a meh cpu and gpu for 40 euro and installed linux on it, it's my zoom and mail machine now :3
Fedora actually had the best OOBE for my Samsung laptop. Arch wiki helped me fix my OLED control issue, but due to how it is implemented I cannot control my keyboard backlight outside Windows. TLP-GUI is great for fine tuning & even includes helpful suggestions for newer users. I never let the laptop run Windows so I have no idea how the battery life compares. lol
I've had some problems on almost all Linux laptops I had. Here is my story: Old Toshiba laptop (P4 era) - dial-up modem not working Some netbook from Asus, I don’t remember exactly which model - hotkeys don’t work (at least they didn't at that time) Asus 1215b (AMD C30 APU) - hardware video decoding does not work (and most likely 3D acceleration in general, however it doesn't work well on Windows either) Acer with hybrid graphics (intel + nvidia 750m or something like that) - problems with hybrid graphics. Modern HP laptop with Intel graphics - everything freezes after about 1-2 hours of playing a video on TH-cam (may be distro/browser-specific problem but I did not check) Also on many devices I had there were problems with hibernation or sleep. EeePC 4G 701 - almost unusable due to hardware limitations but everything seems to work as it should (probably except for sleep, did not check). So... yes, problems happen. However, I have been using Linux extensively on all of these devices and it has worked out for me.
@@dreaper2087 Asus 1215b: The CPU is indeed very weak, but with hardware decoding it smoothly plays h264 1080p. But this only works in Windows and not in all players (in browsers it doesn't help at all).
my moms old laptop, i have it now, one of those weird dual graphics things, intel and radeon. slackware strolls along on it, never a problem with the hardware, even suspend(ram/disk) works perfectly.
When I first got my Framework early last year, I had the idea to go Linux only with it. Fedora worked out of the box. The problem I ran into is the laptop, like a lot of premium laptops, uses this oddball resolution, and Linux's HiDPI support at the time absolutely sucked. Everything was either too big or too small. Even over a year later, Linux fractional scaling is still garbage compared to Windows. And even Windows isn't particularly great at it. The situation has improved as people get away from X11, but there's still a lot of apps that don't scale correctly even on common 1440p displays.
Running Wayland, and my experience with Linux on framework has been wonderful. Biggest thing I had to do was manually make Firefox run through Wayland, then some blurry text went away. Even for the few apps that don't work with Wayland, 1440p is honestly close enough. 4k is where scaling issues REALLY rear their ugly head. But generally, fractional scaling on Wayland is wonderful. Support for it is only growing.
Wanted to install linux on my brand new ryzen 7000 laptop. I have been using Mint on my potato for over 5 years. I did remove windows and installed mint and boom the network doesn't work. Turns out I have a realtek network card which has no drivers and you need to install them from a repository which is maintained by an individual & they break every kernel update so you need to reinstall them. Hours of researching I found out that Ubuntu 23.04 is shipping with the driver now. Installed ubuntu over mint. And the wifi and bluetooth did work but there is no audio. I spend 48 hours trying to find the problem. Tried about a 1000 different fixes, even reinstalled but nothing. Until I found one guy who had the same laptop as me. He was much smarter and figured out that the bug was caused by kernel update & he had already reported it. It is a work laptop and I still had wierd connection issues. So I just decided to install windows again. So yeah, your point is absolutely right about new machines (don't install linux on new machines) Try things on a live usb at first and poke around. Also if you do not want to spend your entire weekend every other week trying to fix an obscure bug that broke something on your computer, do not install LINUX.
Using a Live Environment is always a good idea. Especially if something is already misbehaving. I really like it that you can theoretically already try to fix driver issues right there to try it out.
I run Pop OS without any problem on two older Lenovo gaming-laptops (a Y700-15-isk and a Y700-17isk). Pop OS; Nvidia and Lenove works really well together.
I'm running XUBUNTU on an old HP Stream with a Celeron N processor, so far it works fine. I had to install a few utilities/drivers found in the repository but nothing worse than that.
I have a dual boot Windows 11/Linux Mint 21.1 Lenovo Gaming Laptop RTX 3050. On the Windows Side ..ONLY GAMING No other software. On the Linux Side... Everything else. Now ...If I want to really Game Retro or Emulation, I use Batocera (Linux based) emulation software from a bootable USB. The interface works just as good as a any console. I can Play anything from Atari All the way up to a Switch. Best of all , I don't have to worry about changing anything on my main Laptop or Desktop computer. Just Plug N Play from the USB.
My only problem with Linux on laptops is the sleep states and thereby standby and battery life. Even on desktop coming back from sleep is not a task, that will succeed each time (sometimes even Windows manages to bork this up). I use a MacBook, but also have a PC with Windows and a home server with Linux. I like Linux a lot for servers, but the standby etc. just isn't a strength when it comes to Linux. I used Windows since the 3.1 days, but it became worse ever since XP and 7. Linux became better. But reliable laptops just have to be power efficient and reliable. Which is why I use a MacBook. I am hoping for Asahi to succeed and then perhaps using my favorite on MacBook will finally be a dream come true.
Intel should be ok for hardware power management, but kernel 6.3.4 just updated a lot of power state content for AMD and ARM systems. I just updated to it because it has support for a Netgear A8000 WiFi nic I needed to use, and the previous version I was on 6.2.16 hadn't gotten it yet. 😁👍 If you're in an Ubuntu based system, they have a simple GUI kernel manager and you can just pick what you want up to the last release from the Linux Foundation itself.
battery life on Linux Mint was pretty bad for me. *Lenovo IdeaPad 1 15ALC7* browsing, media playback, office tasks - up to 8 hours *Lenovo IdeaPad 5 Pro 16ACH6* (dedicated GPU disabled in BIOS) browsing, media playback, office tasks - up to 2 hours gaming, office tasks in a virtual machine - 50 minutes
I am always amazed what works and what has one annoying bug. Like when you don't expect, but fingerprint sensor works or touchscreen, but then something like the mobile broadband sees the network, but can't connect.
i think the biggest issue with linux for the vast majority of users is not so much the glitches that may occur, a possible lack of features, or even app compatibility (which can be a real issue if you need to run specific apps or games and it just doesnt work out of the box). No, I think the biggest issue is figuring out what distro to install, how to get the OS running and how to get apps running if they dont work at first. I must also say that it doesnt fill me with confidence when most tech youtubers that ive seen making videos on installing linux either had trouble getting their PCs to even boot into linux or went to hell and back to get their streams working properly if they did get their computers running (there are a couple other examples i can think of, but i think this is enouh to get my point across). im sure that im not the only one who is turned away from even thinking about using linux when i see this kind of content from tech youtubers who are pretty knowledgeable and skilled. and even if you´re certain you wont have any big issues getting everything you need working just fine, that will still probably take way more time, research and hassle to achieve than most people would ever consider putting into installing linux when windows is so much easier and faster to set up. so please linux users (especially linux fanatics), dont scream at random people telling them to use linux ´´bEcAUsE iT iS soOoOo muCH bettEr THaN WIndoWS´´ cause chances are that the person or people you are talking to wont benefit from installing linux on their systems. You will also look like a stereotypical idiot discord mod when screaming at random people to use linux, that or you will look like the nerd emoji if you say something like ´´but _____ is so much better than _____ from shitty windows´´ or ´´linux is better in every way´´ yes, this is real stuff ive seen linux fanatics say on several comments sections, even when linux was never mentioned. Please dont be like these people
There are useally Battery Settings and CPU Governors you can change. and if were getting fancy CPU Schedulers you can chose from, you can easily look at the Arch Wiki and figure out what services you need and dont.
I have MacBook Pro 2010 and I dualboot Arch Linux and MacOS. MacOS for editing stuff, and Arch Linux for anything else. I've used to dualboot windows, but that thing just f'ing lags and crashes. Altough installing Arch Linux on outdated macbook pro was exhausting (I had to make some partitions hybrid mbr (for bios boot, or Nvidia drivers wont work), then I had to install nvidia-340xx (aur) and broadcom-wl), but now I can do it blindfolded
I recently started dual booting arch along with windows on both my msi gaming laptop and hp elitebook... and the difference is night and day! Looking back at windows, its so cluttered with ads and bloat but with linux everything just feels smooth
I, for example, can't use Wayland, because I need to adjust the colors and gamma on my laptop screen and Wayland doesn't have any tool like xrandr to do this, since X11 supports xrandr.
I use archlinux on my hybrid nvidia laptops. Never had any problems since serting it up. And optimus manager works great. Only issue is that nvidia never finished the wayland driver.
I have been a victim of the incompatibility unfortunately. . . I saved up money for 2 and a half years to get my Dell XPS 15 9510 and I thought it could run Linux just fine, oh how wrong I could be. . . My thinking was that the XPS 13 had a "developer edition" so 2 more inches and an RTX 3050 would be fine, it was not fine because I put Pop OS on it and I had weird touch screen issues with gnome and scaling being wonky, but those issues were not as bad as the big one I ran into. My subwoofers flat out did not work and I was mad! After less than a year if seeing what works I landed on a distro called CachyOS and I LOVE IT! It has Kde Plasma which fixes the touch screen issue and it also works with my RTX 3050 mobile pretty well through the power profiles and Envycontrol! Envy control uses Nvidia optimus but it sets everything up for you and it is just a command away from disabling your 3050 for awhile till you need it (this is great for battery life reasons!), one issue that has not been solved is the subwoofers but I have learned that a good fix for that is just dual booting with Windows 10 LTSC! What is LTSC? It is a special version of windows that is meant to go on single purpose devices such as kiosks where you only need security updates and it is really stable! Why use a custom version with no feature updates? I only use my windows partition 1% of the time because Linux has 99% of my needs met, I only need it for video production and Ace Attorney fan game reasons! Doesn't dual booting break your Linux partition when you update windows? No it does not because LTSC does not have feature updates so Windows update has no reason to ruin your Linux partition. Any questions? Just reply and I will reply! I have made a great setup for myself on my laptop and I love using Linux every day!
Linux on laptops is the wild west, some things work on one device and others don't and it is never consistent. Unless major hardware manufacturers actually keep Linux in mind it will always be this way, a game of what needs to "fixed", what you just have to accept as wont work and what you just don't care to waste time on.
There are few Linux pre-installed laptops from big vendors like Lenovo, Dell, HP etc. You need to look for those. You can't have pre-installed Linux laptops in budget segments. Most of them are business or developers machine like Thinkpad, xps etc.
Used Ubuntu for video editing, music production and graphic design. Ubuntu is much more clever in usage of RAM than windows. Laptop is silent and not warming up even in Bitwig. Redmi ProBook 14.
I just installed TLP on my Lenovo X1 Carbon Gen 4 last night on Arch Linux. Those who wants to use Linux on laptops should do their own research first. This is your own setup. You take charge of your life. Peace :-)
**uses a hardware made by Microsoft a known anti-competitive practice champion for windows** **surprised Pikachu when their competition doesn't work 100% perfectly on it** There are vendors like system76, framework, tuxedo conputers, well known list of Lenovo models, and general guidelines for compatibility. Like intel WiFi cards=good, Broadcom=bad, AMD GPU = gppd, nvidia=bad etc etc. If you want to use kerosene on a gasoline vehicle, you can't complain about the vibrations. If you want the ecosystem to get better, donate to opensource projects because majority of software you consume on Linux platform is free. Someone donated their efforts.
I don't actually think that that's the case anymore. The most popular Desktop Environments have all started to essentially provide a similar out of the box experience in terms of functionality. While some like Gnome rely a lot of animations, which could take a minimal time to load, in the grant scheme it's not all that noticable until you start to fill up the drive
Lol I wonder if you were gonna talk about the battery, I remember in the past, 3-4 years ago I tried using Linux on my previous 2 laptops. The battery ended up dying on both of them. Personally I don't feel like running linux on a windows laptop again.
I really like your video, but please try to improve the audio quality. A cheap mic and/or recording in a room without too much echo should do it. Great job!
Another annoying problem ive noticed is on gaming laptops that have some weird control panel for fan control, hotkeys, rgb, and other random things. These control panels never seem to have linux builds so your stuck hoping someone made a decent alternative. This is especially bad with alienware computers ive noticed.
I was going to install Linux on my laptop but the setup wasn't there and I didn't have a pendrive. Looks like I'll stick to windows 8.1 until further notice.
I think the hard part is getting the masses to even know those exist. Most regular computer users who use laptops have heard of Apple, Dell, Lenovo, HP, but I highly doubt most of them have ever heard of System76
@@JJFlores197 Dell, Lenovo also sell pre-installed Linux laptops. But they are few and in the higher tier. They also found mainly on US and EU region. Sub continent users may get the model with windows 10 by default.
I bought a Asus laptop recently (TUF A15 2023) with the thought of going Linux only with a Windows 10 VM for work. Tried to install Nobara distro first, WiFi didn't work, keyboard didn't work. Updated Nobara to latest kernel via Ethernet, tried two fixes, still nothing. Then proceeded to try MX Linux, Endeavor OS, AV Linux, nothing worked, even with latest kernel updates. After hours of scrolling through forums seeking a fix, found some posts that said it worked in a previous kernel version (much older) and that now it doesn't anymore in the newer ones. Even found the exact same bug on my exact same model on some OpenSuse forum I think, with instructions on how to patch your kernel and compile with this particular fix. After spending on a day on this following countless guides, fixes etc. I finally stopped when trying to debug why I can't compile the kernel due to some other errors, installed my custom Windows 11 ISO and everything just worked, only had to install a few drivers. Sorry for the wall of text, just wanted to relay my experience with this, I really hope one day I'll be able to switch to Linux and not run into these sort of issues, maybe I'm just plain unlucky.
Gaming Laptops are often completely messed up by the manufacturer. I once had an ASUS TUF Gaming Laptop which had some weird custom Windows power profile that kept messing with mouse acceleration and peripheral latency. When removing the software and power profile, battery life was cut in half, the keyboard controls for audio, brightness and similar stopped working and the integrated graphics stopped working since it was dynamically enabled via software. The UEFI was heavily locked down, so you couldn't even reach it. Point of the story. Gaming laptops can suck regardless of the Operating System and I personally don't go for one that is marketed as such
@@MichaelNROH Fair point, I should have researched a bit for Linux compatibility before doing the purchase. However, with the high prices for laptops in my country when I pay a premium I expect a dedicated GPU to be included. The biggest thing that's holding back a Linux widespread adoption, especially in the mobile but desktop as well is lack of support from manufacturers/developers that's creating these issues in the first place and then people like me trying it out just abandon it completely and go back to Windows.
Two or three years ago I bought a dell xps 13 2-in-1 thinking I'd be golden because the non 2-in-1 variant officially supports ubuntu, but the fingerprint sensor and webcam are different and don't have drivers... It's not the end of the world, I've been managing fine, but in the future I will only consider a laptop from framework, tuxedo, system76 or star labs (and want open source firmware this time, ideally coreboot).
I installed Ubuntu / Zorin OS on two different ThinkPads and it worked all good. The sound is foe whatever reason a bit quieter but everything else works perfect without tinkering.
Sound volume depends on the audio software you have installed. I've found that Pipewire is more quiet than Pulseaudio for example. You can try increasing the value with alsamixer.
that's absolutely true.. I had hard time when I just installed arch on my lenovo ideapad 1 14amn7 for the wifi driver and webcam. Luckily I found the wifi driver that compatible with the laptop, but when I try to update the kernel, it doesn't work and I just downgrade the kernel. Currently I don't upgrade it again, I don't use the webcam that much, so I didn't try to find the driver :v
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. (Almost) all the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
I installed BunsenLabs Linux on an i7-2700k with 32 GB ram and nvidia gtx 1050 Ti. Aside from tinkering with the terminal to upgrade bullseye to bookworm, all is good. Though, for noobs, I won't recommend this. They gotta stick with 'buntu or Linux Mint in order to get some experience handling Linux. (And yeah, totally ditch them once they get the hang of it).
I just installed Linux for the first time on my only computer, which is a gaming laptop. I've only had it for 2 days and while some things are annoying, other things feel much better than windows.
I can't get GTX 1050 to work on my lenovo ideapad L340 gaming, I've tried parrot os, ubuntu and fedora
@@filiphabek271 I got a GTX 1050 (Lenovo legion laptop) and didn't have a problem on both mint and kubuntu I think my driver version 525(or 515) IIRC
If that's Nvidia the drivers are usually in the repos, (you might have to use command line, sudo apt install "package" or sudo dnf install "whatever")
Nvidia doesn't often work out of the box since the drivers are proprietary. I don't use their products but you can definitely search for answers to get that set up. You don't need to distrohop to fix that I'm 90% sure
(I don't use Nvidia tho disclaimer)
@@filiphabek271 Ubuntu does install ppa drivers by default, but the flatpak version or whatever, there are many ways to install nvidia drivers, software and updates in additional drivers section will most likely give an array of options latest,tested are recommended ones however.
@@filiphabek271 Just grab the NVIDIA ISO of PopOS.
I've installed Ubuntu on an old Dell Latitude laptop, and I had no problems with it whatsoever. In fact, it felt so much quicker than Windows 10 did.
I've installed Elementary OS is the best for my Alienwware M15 R6, best thant Win10
@@diomenezes Ok. That's really your opinion, I love Linux Mint.
Yup. And ubuntu is also one of the slowest linux distro out there, so that just speaks tons about performace difference between linux and win
@@no_name4796 Don't talk crap about Ubuntu, because I won't fall for it. I think I know more about Linux than you do, no offense intended. Only gullible fools believe that nonsense about Ubuntu being crap, I have used it before, with more than ideal results. You should do some research and testing of Ubuntu before conducting a conclusion, otherwise your just falling or believing the same crap everyone else does, which technically makes you an idiot.
I'm not being mean, I'm just stating the facts and blatantly obvious.
what about battery life
As someone who switch over to linux mainly for productivity and programming I'm simply loving it. I'd love to see more newer laptops with linux ready drivers. Especially when the market is about to explode with the new wave of exotic designs in the upcomming years like the recently trending lenovo one with 2 displays. I'd really love to use such devices with linux and just do what i love
It is actually pretty nice. In some regards, it's also a bit easier to write custom programs and scripts to handle some tasks for you on Linux over Windows. For example, my laptop is a 2-in-1 with a removable keyboard. I am working on a script that allows screen rotations when detached, but change when reattached.
@@FlameSoulis yeah I've dabbled into some riceing. Ive wrote a few scripts and all for my current setup. I'd love to expand those and create some more advanced programs as my side projects
@@smann4935 i swiched up my window manager and a few default softwares. I also riced up terminal with zsh and configured tmux and neovim config. Im currently using Ubuntu with i3 wm. I use a really handy and light weight tool called lxrandr to manage my multi monitor setup
But battery life is worse
I never had problems with my off-lease laptops from HP. I stopped worrying about my battery life, after my Elitebook's battery died after 12 years :)
I purchased a refurbished laptop back in 2015 and immediately wiped Windows so I could install Mint. That laptop is still running Mint just fine. My two desktops also run Mint. The one I use for gaming has no issues with nearly 30 Steam games. As someone old enough to remember using a crank telephone to contact the operator (my phone number was 3 digits long), I had to chuckle when you showed an SSD as a computer 'essential'. My first couple of home computers didn't even have hard drives. Hopefully someday hardware companies will treat Linux with the same love us users do.
Our number was 8. Just 8. 😊
So correct with the regard to battery life. You can also use cpupower along with cpupower-gui and set the governor to power save. And leave the default boot up option to balanced.
😅 I prefer powersave mode in UBUNTU MATE 😂
When I bought my laptop, Linux compatibility was a main consideration, and will remain so in the future.
What laptop you are currently using?
Had countless distros on as many laptops, and never had compatibility issues. I started on Linux in 2006. I ran Ubuntu from a DVD on a desktop without HDD installed.
if you work with/view videos on your laptop another good battery saving option is to make sure that the Hardware acceleration is working for the codecs on your machine. Many distributions don't include the libraries needed by default. (for example search for Fedora firefox hardware acceleration)
Fedora should actually include it by now, if I remember correctly?
For awhile, many companies followed adaptec for sound, video and network standards. That meant many outdated drivers, but a lot of different machines could use the same drivers. I would give up some functionality in exchange for widely-accepted standards.
I am very happy with my HP ELITEBOOK support for Linux (Intel CPU with GPU). Everything worked out of the box, even the fingerprint reader. The main issue with Linux is the GPU drivers and their support for hardware decoding of video content of a specific chip. I myself will never again buy a PC or laptop with Nvidia, although there are people claiming to have zero problems.
The Elitebook series in general is really nice in terms of compatibility.
@@milosCivejovidar does the touch screen work on Linux as well?
thats why i use a thinkpad T470 and it runs ubuntu 23.04 and it runs like a dream man i couldn't be fmore happy .. ubuntu is to me a really good system... good job ubuntu team!
The only thing that I hate for Linux-in-laptops is using Gnome and their huge title bars on legacy apps, they are just NO correct
Ever since I slapped Zorin on my laptop, it has been working so quietly and fast. I like Zorin. The drivers just work compared to my past Linux experiences. It even connected to my wireless printer on its own.
As a three decade+ Linux user, I have little experience with Windows on either Laptops or Desktops and while the issues mentioned were common problems years ago, I find that to be less and less the case. I haven't experienced an unresolvable driver issue in years. I usually use either Dell or Lenovo products and either Arch or Gentoo, and I can't actually remember the last time hardware was a problem - probably a decade or more ago with Broadcom Wi-Fi adapters and that was resolved, albeit less than ideally at the time, fairly quickly. I'm currently also dual-booting Gentoo and Ventura on a MacBook Pro and aside from a noticeable (and completely expected) drop in battery life - Apple battery life being insane - and with some minor kernel customization to enable Apple specific features, Linux handles the Apple hardware easily.. I think some of the "difficulties" associated with Linux are blown a bit out of proportion. The benefits of Linux, in my opinion, far outweigh any of the problems which apparently exist but which I haven't experienced in a long, long time.
Luckily the Kernel itself is nowadays considering battery life more than ever. It's still horrible in comparison, but definitely not unusable anymore.
Lenovo user, ryzen 5 + 1650. (Ubuntu 22-23, Fedora 38, Pop os 22, Vanilla os)Gnome 43 - 44 freezing and window minimizing have not correct animation to right corner but panel based down. Fedora, steam start only one time after reboot, Wayland lagging every 5seconds. 530 Nvidia driver - second screen freeze if you not moving mouse on him.
Well maybe not pick a device by a company that has vested interest in seeing linux fail on the desktop ( ie Microsoft) so the camera issue on the sutface might have been a bed example
I have MacBook Pro, but neither with fedora nor ubuntu sleep mode works, it jest freezes
@@deloller2452 inet or ARM? I know that thjs is not helpful but atm I suppose the hw spesific code for Apples ARM might not be quirecas maturecas yhe older Intel MacBooks
I just installed Manjaro on my surface 3 after loving Arch with KDE on the steam deck. There are some great surface drivers out there, the battery life is fabulous. I'm so happy
Touchpad gestures on Laptops even entry level laptops have been the case for over a decade now but only recently has Linux, mostly PopPS, Fedora and Ubuntu have started supporting it out of the box.
I was recently given a no longer required HP Stream PC13, possibly the most underpowered laptop ever. It was running (staggering more likely) Windows 8.1 which was immediately deleted and I installed Linux Mint Cinammon. It now flies along. Nothing wrong with Linux. All you have to do is find the the one that suits your needs. There's lots to choose from and it's surprisingly easy to install. 😊
if we were in 2006 I would be 100% agreed with your thumbnail, but is not the case these days, everything works great on Linux!
that is far from true
I got an old chromebook and put linux mint on it. I am using it right now.
I must be a lucky sod, as the last three laptops I've installed Linux (Mint) on have worked quite well. Like any OS, Linux likes an SSD to boot from, and extra RAM to work with.
0:10 this should be a meme lol.
I bought my kid laptop, we put Nobara on it, half a year later neither of us regrets it. The experience on tried and true distros is probably even more stable and user-friendly.
I highly recommend buying a new SSD and then slapping a Linux distro on it. That way it is super easy to revert to the prior OS if needed. SSDs are super cheap. I usually buy a new SSD every 2 years or so and try a new OS.
7:40 "It also never gets boring."
I personally think that this is a problem for Linux.
Most people want their device to just work, or simply put "be boring".
Sure, in Linux there should (and likely will) always be a distro which is always interesting (e.g. Arch), we currently don't really have a "boring" one.
**Debian entered the chat**
@@aggelosmots Quite frankly, Debian with apps in Flatpaks + a semi-rolling kernel (the latter entirely because of drivers...) would be quite an interesting distro and probably quite liked as well.
installed mint on a geoflex 230, couldn't be happier with my decision, perks with my decision full metal body laptop, 4gb ram, touchscreen and it had an upgradable ssd (which is odd for a low end system usually it's a soldered chip) use it mostly for browsing, ssh, programming, word processing, youtube and a daily driver
It's okay. Supposedly battery life is worse but some DE's like GNOME and Plasma have power saver modes which, while destroying performance in stuff like games and graphical things, can run for quite some time. My low-end laptop lasted like 25 minutes on 0% while running a VM.
I installed linux in my laptop because I was not able to use it as a drawing machine. CSP, SAI, EVEN KRITA had problems with this ASUS laptop and was about to sell it. Then decided to install Mint and it worked amazing. The battery life got 1 more hour, THE BLUETOOTH WORKS!!!! And the general temperature went down even when plugged.
Great job. I Use Linux Mint as my Main Desktop OS instead of Windows. Have been for Quite sometime.
Which linux distro did you use before mint?
@GatoHidratado Manjaro. And before that, I used Ubuntu.
@@RonMaximilian Thanks! I was curious about that haha.
My laptop was originally my wife's until she upgraded. So on it, as a little experiment to try to preserve battery life between charges, I installed Debian Stable NetInstall and use the Openbox window manager. On my desktop box, I use Debian Stable with Xfce.
I just bought a brand new laptop and my best advice is to do some serious research before you buy. I did that and my experience with running Linux Mint on it, has been 97.3% painless thus far.
Other advice (doesn't apply to laptops which ship with Linux):
- Don't buy a new laptop specifically for Linux if you're not at least reasonably proficient with Linux.
- Expect to compile some drivers. If it turns out you don't need to, it's great but prepare yourself for it.
Thanks a lot! Even though I have been running Linux for a few years, I didn't know about TLP
TLP prevents your CPU from boosting above its base frequency,, use auto-cpufreq instead
I got a Linux gaming laptop for Christmas!! Love it!!!😊
Oh wow
Thanks for the "dmesg" tip!😊
I run Peppermint OS on Toshiba and Dell laptops with only 4 GB of RAM. Runs quick and fine. Can never do that with Windows 10. And I have AntiX running on an old netbook with only 2GB of RAM and an Atom CPU. It uses only 150MB of RAM to boot! It extended its life and kept it out of the trash. Remarkable.
The problem is complete drivers and apps that go with it. Take a look at the AMD drivers, they work in Linux without many issues. But they also dont have the capture, overclocking, etc software that is included with Windows versions of their drivers/software. Same goes with some web cams, headsets, etc. They work, but 90% of their extra features are not available because of the missing software for Linux.
I've had a really good experience with Manjaro running on my old HP Elite Desk HP G1.
It's given the old beast an second lease on life. Especially since so many apps on the Manjaro store are light on ram consumption. So the 16gb max ram on the HP Elite Desk G1 isn't as much of an issue.
The Elite Desk and Book series are both Linux verified I think 🤔
I can't get hardware acceleration in chromium based browsers, both on Fedora and Debian distros (ubuntu, mint and pop os).
In media players I get it without problem.
If it wasn't for this reason I would leave Windows once and for all.
yeah as much as I hate to say it I can understand because stuff like wifi adapters, cameras, mouses, and keyboards are usually connect via usb/bluetooth on computers and there are more choices where as on a laptop they have to be way more constrained and so many different models, so I can see why it is hard. I do know some big manufacturers like dell and lenovo (specifically thinkpad lineup) have flagships with available linux support. It is getting a lot better though. (for context I use fedora on a framework laptop and before used ubuntu on an old macbook air after it got really old)
Great responses to the interviewer.
With KDE Neon I really can feel the performance diffrence!
I don't know how about anybody else , but tiling window manager with cpupower script works 25% longer than windows 10, and has flawless experience in work (except probably how well some governor drivers work out of the box and microphone quality)
Well i had a laptop which had windows 8, and yes it was horrendous. So during the pandamic we got unlimited wifi and upgraded it to windows 10, and then i got introduced to linux, then i tried Ubuntu, mint, pop, zorin, MX and finally settled on mint but you may not believe just yesterday my laptop got involved in a freak accident and now it's rest in peace
But i enjoyed my time using linux. And that laptop never gave me any issues except for the DVD drive which i later replaced with a hhd caddy
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I bought a full hd screen laptop with a 256gb ssd, 8gb ram and a meh cpu and gpu for 40 euro and installed linux on it, it's my zoom and mail machine now :3
Fedora actually had the best OOBE for my Samsung laptop. Arch wiki helped me fix my OLED control issue, but due to how it is implemented I cannot control my keyboard backlight outside Windows. TLP-GUI is great for fine tuning & even includes helpful suggestions for newer users. I never let the laptop run Windows so I have no idea how the battery life compares. lol
Assolutamente iscritto. (Subscribed)
I've had some problems on almost all Linux laptops I had. Here is my story:
Old Toshiba laptop (P4 era) - dial-up modem not working
Some netbook from Asus, I don’t remember exactly which model - hotkeys don’t work (at least they didn't at that time)
Asus 1215b (AMD C30 APU) - hardware video decoding does not work (and most likely 3D acceleration in general, however it doesn't work well on Windows either)
Acer with hybrid graphics (intel + nvidia 750m or something like that) - problems with hybrid graphics.
Modern HP laptop with Intel graphics - everything freezes after about 1-2 hours of playing a video on TH-cam (may be distro/browser-specific problem but I did not check)
Also on many devices I had there were problems with hibernation or sleep.
EeePC 4G 701 - almost unusable due to hardware limitations but everything seems to work as it should (probably except for sleep, did not check).
So... yes, problems happen. However, I have been using Linux extensively on all of these devices and it has worked out for me.
@@dreaper2087 Asus 1215b: The CPU is indeed very weak, but with hardware decoding it smoothly plays h264 1080p. But this only works in Windows and not in all players (in browsers it doesn't help at all).
I also had good experiences about driver support with PopOS and Linux Mint in the past.
my moms old laptop, i have it now, one of those weird dual graphics things, intel and radeon. slackware strolls along on it, never a problem with the hardware, even suspend(ram/disk) works perfectly.
When I first got my Framework early last year, I had the idea to go Linux only with it. Fedora worked out of the box. The problem I ran into is the laptop, like a lot of premium laptops, uses this oddball resolution, and Linux's HiDPI support at the time absolutely sucked. Everything was either too big or too small. Even over a year later, Linux fractional scaling is still garbage compared to Windows. And even Windows isn't particularly great at it. The situation has improved as people get away from X11, but there's still a lot of apps that don't scale correctly even on common 1440p displays.
Do you have some examples? I would like to try out some scaling on my 1440p monitor to address this.
From my experience KDE+Wayland has decent fractional scaling support. However I don't know much about the situation on gnome
Running Wayland, and my experience with Linux on framework has been wonderful. Biggest thing I had to do was manually make Firefox run through Wayland, then some blurry text went away. Even for the few apps that don't work with Wayland, 1440p is honestly close enough. 4k is where scaling issues REALLY rear their ugly head. But generally, fractional scaling on Wayland is wonderful. Support for it is only growing.
Wanted to install linux on my brand new ryzen 7000 laptop. I have been using Mint on my potato for over 5 years. I did remove windows and installed mint and boom the network doesn't work. Turns out I have a realtek network card which has no drivers and you need to install them from a repository which is maintained by an individual & they break every kernel update so you need to reinstall them. Hours of researching I found out that Ubuntu 23.04 is shipping with the driver now. Installed ubuntu over mint. And the wifi and bluetooth did work but there is no audio. I spend 48 hours trying to find the problem. Tried about a 1000 different fixes, even reinstalled but nothing. Until I found one guy who had the same laptop as me. He was much smarter and figured out that the bug was caused by kernel update & he had already reported it. It is a work laptop and I still had wierd connection issues. So I just decided to install windows again. So yeah, your point is absolutely right about new machines (don't install linux on new machines) Try things on a live usb at first and poke around. Also if you do not want to spend your entire weekend every other week trying to fix an obscure bug that broke something on your computer, do not install LINUX.
Using a Live Environment is always a good idea. Especially if something is already misbehaving.
I really like it that you can theoretically already try to fix driver issues right there to try it out.
Kicked Windows off my Laptop 2 years ago for good.
Next Laptop purchase will be Linux without a Windows License. Saves some good money
I run Pop OS without any problem on two older Lenovo gaming-laptops (a Y700-15-isk and a Y700-17isk). Pop OS; Nvidia and Lenove works really well together.
Running Linux Mint on a 2009 iMac, flawless and way better than Mac OS
I'm running XUBUNTU on an old HP Stream with a Celeron N processor, so far it works fine. I had to install a few utilities/drivers found in the repository but nothing worse than that.
Xubuntu gang!
I've never had desktop pcs
Only laptops
And I've only installed Linux since I was first introduced to it
linux on my macbook blew me away tbh
I have a dual boot Windows 11/Linux Mint 21.1 Lenovo Gaming Laptop RTX 3050. On the Windows Side ..ONLY GAMING No other software. On the Linux Side... Everything else. Now ...If I want to really Game Retro or Emulation, I use Batocera (Linux based) emulation software from a bootable USB. The interface works just as good as a any console. I can Play anything from Atari All the way up to a Switch. Best of all , I don't have to worry about changing anything on my main Laptop or Desktop computer. Just Plug N Play from the USB.
My only problem with Linux on laptops is the sleep states and thereby standby and battery life. Even on desktop coming back from sleep is not a task, that will succeed each time (sometimes even Windows manages to bork this up).
I use a MacBook, but also have a PC with Windows and a home server with Linux. I like Linux a lot for servers, but the standby etc. just isn't a strength when it comes to Linux. I used Windows since the 3.1 days, but it became worse ever since XP and 7. Linux became better. But reliable laptops just have to be power efficient and reliable. Which is why I use a MacBook. I am hoping for Asahi to succeed and then perhaps using my favorite on MacBook will finally be a dream come true.
I had the wake-up problems many years. Moving to KDE fixed it. Your experience may vary.
Gnome x Wayland preferably fedora is the only distro that worked so well in my laptop
Intel should be ok for hardware power management, but kernel 6.3.4 just updated a lot of power state content for AMD and ARM systems. I just updated to it because it has support for a Netgear A8000 WiFi nic I needed to use, and the previous version I was on 6.2.16 hadn't gotten it yet. 😁👍
If you're in an Ubuntu based system, they have a simple GUI kernel manager and you can just pick what you want up to the last release from the Linux Foundation itself.
battery life on Linux Mint was pretty bad for me.
*Lenovo IdeaPad 1 15ALC7*
browsing, media playback, office tasks - up to 8 hours
*Lenovo IdeaPad 5 Pro 16ACH6* (dedicated GPU disabled in BIOS)
browsing, media playback, office tasks - up to 2 hours
gaming, office tasks in a virtual machine - 50 minutes
You want a rolling desktop release of you want new hardware to work
Paused on the right moment ''Linox xD"
I am always amazed what works and what has one annoying bug. Like when you don't expect, but fingerprint sensor works or touchscreen, but then something like the mobile broadband sees the network, but can't connect.
i started on windows and there is no way am going back there.linux is better than windows in every way for me
my experience with linux (kubuntu) on all my laptops has been excellent
i think the biggest issue with linux for the vast majority of users is not so much the glitches that may occur, a possible lack of features, or even app compatibility (which can be a real issue if you need to run specific apps or games and it just doesnt work out of the box).
No, I think the biggest issue is figuring out what distro to install, how to get the OS running and how to get apps running if they dont work at first. I must also say that it doesnt fill me with confidence when most tech youtubers that ive seen making videos on installing linux either had trouble getting their PCs to even boot into linux or went to hell and back to get their streams working properly if they did get their computers running (there are a couple other examples i can think of, but i think this is enouh to get my point across). im sure that im not the only one who is turned away from even thinking about using linux when i see this kind of content from tech youtubers who are pretty knowledgeable and skilled.
and even if you´re certain you wont have any big issues getting everything you need working just fine, that will still probably take way more time, research and hassle to achieve than most people would ever consider putting into installing linux when windows is so much easier and faster to set up.
so please linux users (especially linux fanatics), dont scream at random people telling them to use linux ´´bEcAUsE iT iS soOoOo muCH bettEr THaN WIndoWS´´ cause chances are that the person or people you are talking to wont benefit from installing linux on their systems. You will also look like a stereotypical idiot discord mod when screaming at random people to use linux, that or you will look like the nerd emoji if you say something like ´´but _____ is so much better than _____ from shitty windows´´ or ´´linux is better in every way´´
yes, this is real stuff ive seen linux fanatics say on several comments sections, even when linux was never mentioned. Please dont be like these people
There are useally Battery Settings and CPU Governors you can change.
and if were getting fancy CPU Schedulers you can chose from, you can easily look at the Arch Wiki and figure out what services you need and dont.
I have MacBook Pro 2010 and I dualboot Arch Linux and MacOS. MacOS for editing stuff, and Arch Linux for anything else. I've used to dualboot windows, but that thing just f'ing lags and crashes. Altough installing Arch Linux on outdated macbook pro was exhausting (I had to make some partitions hybrid mbr (for bios boot, or Nvidia drivers wont work), then I had to install nvidia-340xx (aur) and broadcom-wl), but now I can do it blindfolded
I recently started dual booting arch along with windows on both my msi gaming laptop and hp elitebook... and the difference is night and day! Looking back at windows, its so cluttered with ads and bloat but with linux everything just feels smooth
I, for example, can't use Wayland, because I need to adjust the colors and gamma on my laptop screen and Wayland doesn't have any tool like xrandr to do this, since X11 supports xrandr.
common wayland L
I use archlinux on my hybrid nvidia laptops. Never had any problems since serting it up. And optimus manager works great. Only issue is that nvidia never finished the wayland driver.
How feeling 530 driver? Second screen working good?
I have bought a Slimbook which was designed with Linux in mind, so i don't have these issues.
I get back my laptop to windows after several days of searching how to make my touchpad work properly
On HP-Laptops most of the time everything works besides fingerprint sensors, but oh well, such is life...
I have been a victim of the incompatibility unfortunately. . .
I saved up money for 2 and a half years to get my Dell XPS 15 9510 and I thought it could run Linux just fine, oh how wrong I could be. . .
My thinking was that the XPS 13 had a "developer edition" so 2 more inches and an RTX 3050 would be fine, it was not fine because I put Pop OS on it and I had weird touch screen issues with gnome and scaling being wonky, but those issues were not as bad as the big one I ran into. My subwoofers flat out did not work and I was mad!
After less than a year if seeing what works I landed on a distro called CachyOS and I LOVE IT! It has Kde Plasma which fixes the touch screen issue and it also works with my RTX 3050 mobile pretty well through the power profiles and Envycontrol! Envy control uses Nvidia optimus but it sets everything up for you and it is just a command away from disabling your 3050 for awhile till you need it (this is great for battery life reasons!), one issue that has not been solved is the subwoofers but I have learned that a good fix for that is just dual booting with Windows 10 LTSC!
What is LTSC?
It is a special version of windows that is meant to go on single purpose devices such as kiosks where you only need security updates and it is really stable!
Why use a custom version with no feature updates?
I only use my windows partition 1% of the time because Linux has 99% of my needs met, I only need it for video production and Ace Attorney fan game reasons!
Doesn't dual booting break your Linux partition when you update windows?
No it does not because LTSC does not have feature updates so Windows update has no reason to ruin your Linux partition.
Any questions?
Just reply and I will reply! I have made a great setup for myself on my laptop and I love using Linux every day!
Linux on laptops is the wild west, some things work on one device and others don't and it is never consistent. Unless major hardware manufacturers actually keep Linux in mind it will always be this way, a game of what needs to "fixed", what you just have to accept as wont work and what you just don't care to waste time on.
There are few Linux pre-installed laptops from big vendors like Lenovo, Dell, HP etc. You need to look for those. You can't have pre-installed Linux laptops in budget segments. Most of them are business or developers machine like Thinkpad, xps etc.
Used Ubuntu for video editing, music production and graphic design. Ubuntu is much more clever in usage of RAM than windows. Laptop is silent and not warming up even in Bitwig.
Redmi ProBook 14.
I have a gaming laptop that I use for retrogaming and programming and it works really well on Fedora Linux 40.
Tuxedo OS runs better on Laptops than Windows 11
I just installed TLP on my Lenovo X1 Carbon Gen 4 last night on Arch Linux. Those who wants to use Linux on laptops should do their own research first. This is your own setup. You take charge of your life. Peace :-)
**uses a hardware made by Microsoft a known anti-competitive practice champion for windows**
**surprised Pikachu when their competition doesn't work 100% perfectly on it**
There are vendors like system76, framework, tuxedo conputers, well known list of Lenovo models, and general guidelines for compatibility. Like intel WiFi cards=good, Broadcom=bad, AMD GPU = gppd, nvidia=bad etc etc. If you want to use kerosene on a gasoline vehicle, you can't complain about the vibrations.
If you want the ecosystem to get better, donate to opensource projects because majority of software you consume on Linux platform is free. Someone donated their efforts.
Kubuntu had a better battery life on my laptop than Linux Mint, which is funny, bc KDE should be the more demanding desktop.
I don't actually think that that's the case anymore. The most popular Desktop Environments have all started to essentially provide a similar out of the box experience in terms of functionality.
While some like Gnome rely a lot of animations, which could take a minimal time to load, in the grant scheme it's not all that noticable until you start to fill up the drive
Lol I wonder if you were gonna talk about the battery, I remember in the past, 3-4 years ago I tried using Linux on my previous 2 laptops. The battery ended up dying on both of them. Personally I don't feel like running linux on a windows laptop again.
I really like your video, but please try to improve the audio quality. A cheap mic and/or recording in a room without too much echo should do it. Great job!
Another annoying problem ive noticed is on gaming laptops that have some weird control panel for fan control, hotkeys, rgb, and other random things. These control panels never seem to have linux builds so your stuck hoping someone made a decent alternative. This is especially bad with alienware computers ive noticed.
I was going to install Linux on my laptop but the setup wasn't there and I didn't have a pendrive. Looks like I'll stick to windows 8.1 until further notice.
I want to see low cost tablets that run linux come to market. Think Microsoft surface go but running linux.
Yeah, it's sadly gonna take a while since these things are quite expensive to make.
I've installed Ubuntu on my ASUS laptop and there is almost no problems with it
Instead of Linux on Laptop, choose Linux Laptops ;)
Why not both? Both is good 😏
I think the hard part is getting the masses to even know those exist. Most regular computer users who use laptops have heard of Apple, Dell, Lenovo, HP, but I highly doubt most of them have ever heard of System76
@@JJFlores197 Dell, Lenovo also sell pre-installed Linux laptops. But they are few and in the higher tier. They also found mainly on US and EU region. Sub continent users may get the model with windows 10 by default.
My girlfriend used to use Linux but when she bought a new laptop (2 in 1) she had to switch to Windows due to lack of drivers from Lenovo, sad 😢
I'm using Linux mint on my Lenovo laptop. It's working surprisingly good
I bought a Asus laptop recently (TUF A15 2023) with the thought of going Linux only with a Windows 10 VM for work.
Tried to install Nobara distro first, WiFi didn't work, keyboard didn't work.
Updated Nobara to latest kernel via Ethernet, tried two fixes, still nothing. Then proceeded to try MX Linux, Endeavor OS, AV Linux, nothing worked, even with latest kernel updates.
After hours of scrolling through forums seeking a fix, found some posts that said it worked in a previous kernel version (much older) and that now it doesn't anymore in the newer ones.
Even found the exact same bug on my exact same model on some OpenSuse forum I think, with instructions on how to patch your kernel and compile with this particular fix.
After spending on a day on this following countless guides, fixes etc. I finally stopped when trying to debug why I can't compile the kernel due to some other errors, installed my custom Windows 11 ISO and everything just worked, only had to install a few drivers.
Sorry for the wall of text, just wanted to relay my experience with this, I really hope one day I'll be able to switch to Linux and not run into these sort of issues, maybe I'm just plain unlucky.
Gaming Laptops are often completely messed up by the manufacturer. I once had an ASUS TUF Gaming Laptop which had some weird custom Windows power profile that kept messing with mouse acceleration and peripheral latency.
When removing the software and power profile, battery life was cut in half, the keyboard controls for audio, brightness and similar stopped working and the integrated graphics stopped working since it was dynamically enabled via software. The UEFI was heavily locked down, so you couldn't even reach it.
Point of the story. Gaming laptops can suck regardless of the Operating System and I personally don't go for one that is marketed as such
@@MichaelNROH Fair point, I should have researched a bit for Linux compatibility before doing the purchase. However, with the high prices for laptops in my country when I pay a premium I expect a dedicated GPU to be included. The biggest thing that's holding back a Linux widespread adoption, especially in the mobile but desktop as well is lack of support from manufacturers/developers that's creating these issues in the first place and then people like me trying it out just abandon it completely and go back to Windows.
Two or three years ago I bought a dell xps 13 2-in-1 thinking I'd be golden because the non 2-in-1 variant officially supports ubuntu, but the fingerprint sensor and webcam are different and don't have drivers... It's not the end of the world, I've been managing fine, but in the future I will only consider a laptop from framework, tuxedo, system76 or star labs (and want open source firmware this time, ideally coreboot).
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Bullseye on Toughpads works well too.
Laptops are just about the only place Desktop Linux actually works. Multi-monitor workstation is hell with Linux
I installed Ubuntu / Zorin OS on two different ThinkPads and it worked all good. The sound is foe whatever reason a bit quieter but everything else works perfect without tinkering.
Sound volume depends on the audio software you have installed. I've found that Pipewire is more quiet than Pulseaudio for example. You can try increasing the value with alsamixer.
that's absolutely true.. I had hard time when I just installed arch on my lenovo ideapad 1 14amn7 for the wifi driver and webcam. Luckily I found the wifi driver that compatible with the laptop, but when I try to update the kernel, it doesn't work and I just downgrade the kernel. Currently I don't upgrade it again, I don't use the webcam that much, so I didn't try to find the driver :v
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. (Almost) all the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
I shudder to think about the driver support for my Walmart Gateway laptop.
I installed BunsenLabs Linux on an i7-2700k with 32 GB ram and nvidia gtx 1050 Ti. Aside from tinkering with the terminal to upgrade bullseye to bookworm, all is good. Though, for noobs, I won't recommend this. They gotta stick with 'buntu or Linux Mint in order to get some experience handling Linux. (And yeah, totally ditch them once they get the hang of it).