Photography is in the hands of us photographers! We don’t have to go down the roads that the camera manufacturers want us to. New and latest cameras are great, but if you cannot really afford them then be satisfied with what you have and enjoy your own photos. My ‘gear’ is all used and has cost me just over £400! And for that I have two cameras, three lenses and a few accessories. I shoot on m4/3 and I am more than satisfied. I print to A3 and frame my work. Indeed if you only have a phone, use that. What does it matter as long as you are getting enjoyment out of it? It is ‘your’ work and don’t let anyone judge you ( unless you give them permission and want their advice ). Keep up the good work Adam, you inspire us all!
I'd love for you, Sean Tucker, Alister Benn (@Expressive Photography) and Alex Kilbee (@The Photographic Eye) to have a group discussion about the meaning of photography as an art form. You all have similar non-gear-centric approaches to discussing photography, with your own individual spins and philosophies. It would be fascinating. Make it so!
@brandovlogs I only omitted Ted Forbes because he's gotten increasingly gear-centric in his content lately. But for discussing photography as an art form, he absolutely belongs.
I for one hope you keep making videos because they are some of the best on YT. I agree with all you said, as for me the pleasure in photography is the capture, be it an Otter in the Balkan mountains or a landscape vista or even a strange looking character in the street, it's then the magic happens. The more preparation and planning that goes into making that happen the better the moment. I also find that when editing such photos I am continuously re living it, then as the " high " wears off we prepare and search for the next one. As for gear it doesn't matter until it does. As your skill grows so does your expectation, each lens or camera will take you to a certain point, then you and the camera must step up to the next level. Great video.
I don't have any idea if it is indicative of the lifespan of photography, but our local camera club here in a small town in North Carolina USA more than doubled in size this year. several of the new members are new to photography an one had never picked up a camera before. Our purpose as a club other than fellowship of like minded people is to help each other learn and grow as photographers. Our members range from completely new to professional.
5 Points of total sense. Agree with every one. Really interesting the way you framed the "how much post processing is OK/not OK" question -> Subtractive processing OK, Additive processing not is a very good way putting it.
I'm pretty much OK with any type of processing, as long as there's no intent to (seriously) deceive. Dead flat realistic, totally abstract / non-representational and all points in between can be good or bad quality. But the intent needs to be clear. Personally I'd like to somehow communicate the visceral "oomph" that I get when I see a beautiful scene. I can't say that I believe I've ever really done that, but it's a goal. Whether it's by a completely faithful rendering or a highly stylized interpretation is of secondary importance -- Just be honest. I have to admit I'm more (slightly) conflicted by selective compositions that -- aside from strictly compositional concerns -- carefully exclude what's not wanted in the photo. I.e., shoot the beautiful flower but crop out the ugly landfill next to it (as it were.) Goodness knows I've done that far too often given where I shoot...
Hi Adam. I am new to your channel but immediately subscribed. The title of this episode attracted me, and I agree with much of what you say, especially the last bit about photography being swamped by commercialism. From camera and other equipment makers, film makes in those days, and all the rest. Let me briefly explain that my own serious involvement in photography began in 1966 when I started my apprenticeship aged 16. I opened a commercial studio in 1971 and ran it for 10 years until photography had worn me out and I was fortunate enough to be able to take my talents in another direction. But I never stopped making pictures and still do - and that’s really what it’s all about. Making pictures. No matter by what means or to what end - all the rest is noise. That noise is what I tried to put behind me when I closed my studio, but of course it’s still there, and it’s a delicate balance to make oneself heard while not adding too much to the cacophony.
It was great to hear your opinion, Adam. You covered many topics that have come up in the comments of my channel and I've been thinking of tackling them myself. I admire the way you make your points and share your perspective, not attacking others as we are all on our own path, but providing your insight from the journey you've taken. Thank you, I think it might be time for a catch up soon! 😊👍
Agree with all your comments. I find mixing honey pot locations with other locations helps my photography. Trying to get the best out of a less attractive location can really get you thinking and then learning how to get the most from a scene, then when you take that knowledge with you to a honeypot location you can then really do that location justice too.
Thanks Adam! I agree with everything you say. The only thing I would add about gear is that if somebody’s choice of camera and lenses means they want to keep picking them up and shooting then it’s the right camera for them, because the more we pick up the camera and practice our craft, the better we will get. Sorry I didn’t respond to request for input on Twitter; I thought of several, but not enough characters to reply on one take. My one piece of advice I hear from some, which I don’t like, is only shoot in golden or blue hours. I find that too constraining. Wonderful as blue and golden hours are, there are times in the day, especially in winter, when we can get dramatic light. In the second half of December and first half of January, the sun doesn’t get high enough to become super harsh, except on a cloudless day with no haze.
Thanks--we need more discussions like this. On your points: 1) As Ansel said: "The single most important component of a camera is the 12 inches behind it" and it's true that a great photographer can produce better images with less-than-stellar gear more easily than a neophyte can with higher-end stuff. That said, certain equipment is better-suited (or in some cases required) for certain types of photography, although most modern mid-range or better cameras/lenses are more than capable of producing gallery-worthy results at large print sizes (keeping in mind a reasonable viewing distance--unless you're comparing brushstrokes, you don't view impressionist paintings with a magnifying glass or even at arm's length)! Rather than falling for marketing hype and blowing your money on larger-format/high-res bodies, it's more important to have ergonomically good, portable gear so you can actually get shots in hard-to-reach/awkward places (which is why MFT is my go-to format) and without calling undo attention to yourself. 2) Two words: "Rules suck!" OK, more words: rules destroy creativity and no numerically-based rule produces result in better images, full stop! Regarding composition, if it looks right TO YOU, it IS right. The main reason to learn the "rules of photography" (or any art form) is to generally avoid them (unless you like mimicking other's work rather than creating art)! 3) Occasional travel to "exotic" locations can provide opportunities for some great images, but a) IT'S NOT GREEN! We need to limit the use of fossil fuels just for "fun" or any other purpose. b) If you're lucky enough to live near some amazing terrain, architecture, wildlife, or anything else you like as subject, good for you; but if not, that's no excuse for failing to find "photoworthy" subjects. I live in an area not generally considered to be a photo hotspot, but I'm able on a regular basis to find and photograph some amazing things, most of them within walking distance from (or even in) our house. It helps that I primarily do "abstract" work, so I don't need jaw-dropping vistas or other "wonders of the world" as subjects. The point is, limitations and challenges make you a better photographer. Anyone can stand in certain locations, point a camera in almost any direction, and somebody will be impressed with the results; the good ones find new ways to "see" what others miss in the same location. 4) As you suggest, "editing is cheating" is an idiotic statement, as long as you're not trying to deliberately misrepresent your work (I'd argue that sky replacement using someone else's sky is misrepresentation). Again, from Ansel (OK, so he's my guru): "You don't take a photograph, you make it." Cameras simply don't see the world the same way as our eyes/visual cortex--the camera ALWAYs lies to a point. Obviously, if you're not color-blind, you don't see in B&W. The point is to realize your vision--what did you feel when you decided to record that image? How can you best convey that to the viewer? 5) Photography will always be here in some form and as long as I'm physically able, I'll continue to make photographs (previsualize/record/process/print) as will many others (including most of the people who watch channels like this, I expect). It's simply too therapeutic and rewarding to ever be far from my mind.
As always, a very informative video without being judgmental. I love your comment comparing "You must have a great camera" to "You must have a great brush". I agree that the line between photograph and digital art is one you must define for yourself. I personally watermark my images now as "Photograph" or "Digital Art from Photo". One approach I would like to see for evaluation sessions and competitions is attaching one of the JPG previews created by the camera, to the submission. The viewer could then view the before and after.
Another great video Adam. The one comment that really struck me is about a photography community being lacking. I find this true. I am grateful for YT channels like yours because it does give me a bit of a sense of community. Keep providing content. You are unique and thoughtful in your approach. I really appreciate that.
I think what will 'save' photography are outlets like TH-cam were a working photographer can share their work and build a following. Before the Internet it was actually fairly difficult to learn about other photographers such as yourself, Adam. In fact I doubt I would have ever heard of many of the photographers I follow on TH-cam in the film days.
Please don't quit TH-cam I love your videos. I 100% agree on there doesn't seem to be a great photographic community on social media, which is why I'm so glad I found your stream!
Another great video Adam and I agree with what you are saying on all 5 points. To me as a novice+, the end result is what you, the person taking the photograph is happy with. Post processing is a personal choice, as is the camera mode you prefer to shoot in. Unless you are a pro., then don't worry. Get out there, enjoy your hobby and don't be concerned with all the different opinions of how to. Can't wait for your next upload!
I have to say, I agree with everything you say in here. There are a lot of 'phrases' that people blurt out without thinking. I am a photography enthusiast (blasted phrases) and for me it should just be something to enjoy. There should be no worry about following or not following rules, using jpeg, raw or artistic in camera presets etc. Take the photo you want to take, do what you want to do with it... bust most of all, enjoy it and embrace how you do it.
I hope we continue to see your TH-cam videos. You videos inspire me to get out into nature, especially in these dark times. I'm only a hobby photographer and still have lots to learn or perfect, the few channels I do follow on you tube are a massive part of my journey. In saying that we all must walk the path that feels our souls. I wish you well in yours and thank you for all you have gone.
I think the point where a photograph becomes digital art is when you start adding things that were not originally captured in that image, Sky replacements etc, On a FB group recently there was an image of Corf Castle, lit from the foreground with the sun rising behind it ????? People were queuing up to tell the guy what a fantastic image he had captured, He was just saying thank you, rather than being honest , REALLY winds me up, Beginners are going to try to capture similar images and will wonder why they fail
Hi Adam, my dad was a pro photographer and his dad. So when I bought my first camera it was a Ricoh KR10. My dad said - what's that, you should at least buy a Pentax. He had a job and took me along he gave me two rolls of kodachrome 64. When the pics were being viewed the client chose 70% of mine. I used that camera for 8 years before it gave up. The meter was matching needles. I like your vids very much thank you.
I love your videos! I am always looking forward to watching them! I also, like many in the comments, agree with these. However, I think the reason for photography being about gear more so than the art of photography is simply because of gear reviews and displays on social media. This always existed too but worsened once social media got a hold of it. To be fair, it is way easier to make camera reviews and get that affiliate money if you convince the viewer that he needs the same camera. Also, the camera talks are aging content, so you can always do more camera content. I hope that we shift away from that soon though and teach the right things like you do here! But there are 2 major problems for many content creators: 1. photography technique, composition and the art in general is more difficult to grasp than hardware discussions - and then teaching it is harder 2. photography technique, composition and the art in general does not change every month with the release of a new piece of gear, forcing a more thoughtful approach and needing a lot more preparation for a social media post. Anyways, I believe and hope that the future on these platforms will only belong to those that actually know what they are talking about and can teach these techniques very well. (Keep in mind that the beginner does not know what to look for and hence "How to capture a great landscape with the Canon R5" might still be the kind of titles we need to keep attracting new people) But thanks again for the video. Amazing work!
Excellent message on all the points. I personally have entry level gear, but still get shots that I am proud of. Possibly if printed very large they may be unacceptable, but for the 8X10's that I print, they make me happy. I really appreciate that you focus on the adventure and story, rather than the gear. More and more channels are more gear focused. Just like golf, a set of Ping's will not make me a better golfer. But if I develop the skills first, the gear will matter. Keep up the great work. I am really enjoying your channel. Cheers.
Re editing, it is really important for folks doing photography to understand that when shooting in RAW, you are NOT capturing an image, but rather all the sensor data needed to make an image. When the camera presents an image from the RAW file, it has done so by interpreting the RAW data according to the settings you have selected in the camera. When you take the file into Lightroom, the program then interprets the data and creates an image based on the default settings in the program, which may look very different from what the camera presented. And that image is just one of many possible ways to interpret and present the RAW data. So when shooting in RAW, you are ALWAYS necessarily having to do post processing in order to create image files that can be viewed.
It's like in the supermarket, the best products are in the lower shelves and are often overlooked. Please don't stop producing videos, they're so good.
@@Firstmanphotography here in Germany all supermarkets have their own brand for the basic groceries and those are usually the best.. and they're always on the bottom shelf 😂 I thought that was a common practice, around europe at least... but anyways, it was meant as a compliment 😁
Adam , very interesting set of ideas and thoughts. I genuinely do believe there is a future for quality photography but it will come from the same type of people as you and I, those that value and are committed to effort and skill producing a fine result. Its the same with music, driving, sports, whatever you choose to do those people will not take the easy route because thats just who they are. I also see from experience photographers out there who get interested through using the phone and progress to more considered and deliberate photography , they are the professionals and talented amateurs of the future and we should nurture and encourage them.
Adam as a senior citizen of 52 vintage I find you videos very interesting, inspiring and helpful. I feel my photography has gone from 0 to 6 or 7 and climbing out of 10. It would be a great shame if you were to stop. I have followed you for a very long time and look forward to seeing your videos.
Brilliant, the old classic, you must have a good camera 🤣. As a predominantly Street Photographer who also likes to try my hand at Landscape Photography I shot what I consider my best Landscape image on a Canon 1300D with 18-55mm Kit Lens, now I’m not saying it’s a great photo by your or any decent landscape photographers standard but for me, it was the best shot I’d taken, now quality wise I’ve taken much better images since. As for not shooting the honey pot locations or that certain composition like the Lone Tree on Llyn Padarn in Llanberis, it may well be a “ cliche “ shot that’s been taken by every man and his dog, but I’ve not taken it. Now that’s not by choice, being unable to work, cash is in short supply, so I can’t just shoot off here and there when I want, as much as we’d all love to, life gets in the way.
Adam, I have noticed how often you’ve had an Olympus OM10 SLR with the manual adapter as a prop to open your videos with. It was my first camera and I bought it in the ship’s store before pulling into my first port as a US Navy Sailor. It had a 50mm lens on it. With no formal training I found myself taking some great images with it. I wish I still had the negatives so I could try printing again. My past prints are a bit faded today. With all that said, I didn’t know what GAS was back then. It was the only camera available for me to buy. I just wanted to take photos in all the places I was going to visit. Plus, an aircraft carrier is a pretty cool place to take photos too. I enjoy photography. Period. Thank you for letting us know how much you enjoy photography too.
I think I agree with pretty much all your points here. The one I'm commenting on, though, is regarding editing. I don't know if it's the case or not, but it feels like the people saying you shouldn't edit much, if any, are generally people who have learned through editorial processes. In editorial, photojournalism fields, editing more than just simple light/colour corrections changes the reality, and that's a no-no. But work that you're doing falls into the artistic photography field, where, quite literally, snapping the photo is only one small part of the process. Finding "the" spot, waiting for the light you want, getting the settings dialed in JUST so with repeated shots, stacking images, and then...then....you go in and edit them. None of that is pressing the shutter release and calling it a day. I tread (carefully) in both worlds, and I have to remind myself of the limits on editing when I'm doing news coverage and the lack of limits when I'm just shooting for myself. But no matter the format, I won't ever share a photo without SOME sort of editing, because even if it's simply a minor light or colour correct, every image (in my opinion) needs something touched in it.
Extremely thoughtful views and opinions. Your comments about gear and its place in photography were especially meaningful to me. Thank you for sharing.
Enjoyed the program... 👍 - as per usual. I think that you see, or come into contact with an industry that is centred around camera companies rather than the photography community because you seem to be mainly ‘going it alone.’ By that, I mean, you have essentially chosen to isolate (for want of a better term) yourself, with all of your time making these excellent video productions, outside of your actual camera adventures. The rest of us, whom enjoy your content, watch your videos, have the time, outside our day to day routine, to head on down to our favourite camera club to meet up with our peers and ‘talk/share photography’ and have fun while sharing our experiences or knowledge in a community setting. I think that we can lose a bit of perspective about what is actually going on, outside in the community, if our commitments force us to continually be working alone. Take live music... most people play, or listen to live music in a community setting... It is the person who only plays an instrument or listens to CD’s in their bedroom, that the corporate aspect becomes their priority, because they will only be looking to find/order their next piece of kit or CD. The same goes for every other past time... Football/Cricket... who makes the best equipment? If you only practice in your back yard, a lot of your time will be spent searching catalogues to compare the equipment... But you will find a whole community to share every part of the sport once you join a club. And so on. During your conversations with your fellow YT creators, have you ever discussed creating a ‘club’ on top of your paid photography excursions that the local community can join and where you can melt into the crowd as a member yourself, rather than being THE ONLY teacher and possibly leaving the running of the club to other dedicated community members? It is just a thought.
Yeah there are definitely pockets of communities. Landscape photography particularly is quite a solitary pursuit and my experience has been there are a large number of them who have no desire to collaborate. Fair enough obviously, but its one of the things I struggle with.
Superb Adam, i am very glad that there are pro photographers like you who are prepared to say uncomfortable things. You also put these points in a way that is comforting to those of use with older used equipment and reminds us to keep going, its me that needs to upgrade not my camera( not until i win the lottery anyway!)…thanks Del
Great video and the philosophical discussion. I have several gear intensive hobbies (photography, cycling, motorcycles, climbing, etc) and there is a focus on gear. If you do not have “this” then you are not doing it right. The focus isn’t that gear takes you places you may have never seen and to focus on being there. Don’t worry about having x, be in the place and enjoy it.
Your insight about the photography industry being centered on manufacturers is spot on. It’s discouraging but it is related to the professionals not getting the highest levels of the art out to the public without feeling competition BETWEEN them ; to use your analogy, musicians generally aren’t like this because they know their music is different to each other. Professional photography isn’t nearly as differentiated and so this has tended to let things fall back on the equipment in my opinion.
Adam, Another excellent video! Agreed with all you expressed. As I have mentioned before, there is an aspect of photography that is becoming very controversial, ending up in heated discussions and hatred, depending on the photographer and the people he or she associates with. A huge part of my photography has always been traveling to beautiful places primarily for photography. A great deal of anticipation and fun. Traveling to photo destinations has always been a significant part of the photo experience. To later say "Look what I got in Italy! Or, Iceland! Or, of the ancient ruins in Peru or Egypt! Or in the Galapagos Islands!" But, being a father of two girls, I have become extremely aware of my surroundings and what is happening to our environment as climate change becomes more and more disastrous and deadly. Until the travel industry converts to travel modes that do not create greenhouse gasses and other pollution, I have discontinued ALL air travel and significantly reduced my travel by auto, staying close to home to utilize my home country for photography. Wish I could visit many of the national parks and far away countries to get incredible photos, but that is no longer my right when requiring significant use of means of travel that creates more carbon emissions in our precious atmosphere. As the electric travel industry increases, then it will become more desirable again. But, I am not in the position to purchase expensive electric vehicles, so must wait for costs to come down. Fat chance in today's absolutely absurd world. The electric vehicle industry is not catering to the average human being. Today I am not impressed to see gorgeous photography when learning that the photographer traveled many hundreds or thousands of miles just for the photo opportunities. No longer impressed, and very saddened and sickened. Sadly, that is the state of today's world in which our children are relying on us adults to treat our environment far more carefully for our children's future, so they have a world to enjoy. Thank you.
Agree Walter. Unfortunately photography tourism with its negative impact on the environment has become extremely popular, sadly driven by some very well known TH-camrs - one in particular I watched for several years, appreciating his honest approach - until he hit around 500K subs and decided to spend his time on excessive travel to precious habitats like Iceland (not to mention an exclusive Antarctic 'photography cruise for those who can afford it') which simply screamed 'dont do this yourselves, but its ok for me'. I stopped watching well over a year ago, so dont know if this very successful TH-camr changed his ways, but in many ways the damage is already done. Those who take flights purely to get a photo are writing cheques that our children will have to pay.
I really enjoyed your video. Your thoughts on photography make a lot of sense to me. l've been shooting for many years. I started as a photojournalist, and did all of my own darkroom work, as many Photojournalists did back then. As a photojournalist we could get fired for manipulating any image, (beyond burning, dodging, and contrast essentially) particularly when digital cameras came on the market. Other than that I definitely made changes to images in the darkroom when I shot for my own photo business. Burning, dodging, nose grease, unsharp masking to sharpen stuff up, using crumpled plastic to soften images, filters for adding or reducing contrast, etc. So, with the exception of shooting for newspapers, I've always manipulated images and still do in adobe raw and photoshop. Anyways, I think you're definitely on target with what you've stated.
Adam, your last point is really unnerving and so important to realise. It is true that the focus on the craft needs to be much higher. In that way, photographic content will travel beyond the passionate niche and attract those who can simply enjoy something true, soulful, and beautiful. Thank you and kind of expect you to show the way...
I agree with your points. While I still shoot on 35mm or 5x4 (I know sad) I make sure the final image is something to look at and enjoy. Not looking for any hidden meaning or concept, just having fun..... And yes I'm happy to manipulate in photoshop if i think it helps the composition........
Thank you for a thought provoking video. I really enjoy taking photographs and continually trying to develop my creativity/style as well as recording what I find to be of interest. Having grown up using film SLRs I find it a chore to edit photos from a DSLR on a PC but no more than it was to enlarge and print in the dark, although that was a bit more active. Both methods are essential if photography is to be considered an art. The alternative is to pass on your negatives or RAW images to a technician and hope for the best. However I also find the whole technical side of cameras, lenses, programs, lighting and new technology fascinating. I think that, as human beings, we have the ability to and can embrace all of these without feeling that one approach is better or more correct than any other.
Photography is such a great adventure. It is like following an endless river. Those who are not using a camera have no idea what they are missing. With hunting and other hobbies becoming more expensive, I see nature and wildlife photography only becoming more popular
You are right, going out with my camera helps my physical and mental well being, as generally I am on my own like most landscape photographers. With the various Photoshop tools now available, such as sky replacement, they must be used tastefully and people should be honest and upfront about extreme editing they do to their photos and as you say they are a form of art.
Excellent content. I guess the most asked question about digital cameras is: "How many megapixels is it". While I think the more important one is: "How good is the image quality?"
Really enjoyed this one, so i’ll add my two pennies worth. 1. Does gear matter- yes a lens with better optics always helps, but as with any equipment it’s the understanding the operator has that makes the difference. 2. We should understand the rules- not really convinced with that one. many of the great photographers past and present ignore the rules but understand how to produce great images. I think some people have a natural ability to understand what looks good without rules. 3. Editing is cheating- yes and no. I was brought up in a darkroom, dodging and burning etc so photoshop/ lightroom is a godsend, however I feel very uncomfortable by those people who add things to an image to make it more pleasing like a sky that wasn’t there or a mist. That then as far as I am concerned is no longer a representation of the moment captured and just becomes a piece of art even if it is more pleasing. The photography I like captures an instant. 4 will photography die? - In its current form as certain types such as product photography yes probably with current technology and A.I. I can see those aspects disappearing, but the hope lies with the individual, the amateur so to speak. When I take photographs I not only go there to produce a great photo, but give myself the time to experience the moment and the photo reminds me of that moment. I think in the realms of professional photography that sometimes gets lost
Hi there, I first would like to say, that i really enjoy your attitude and tendency to ask for normal conversation. My 2 cents about editing: What's the big deal ? As you say photography is an art. If i want to do a composite and you like it, well great. If it is journalism yes sure. It needs to reflect the reality, but really it is not. This is art and you or i or anyone really can be as expressive as he/she wants. I have few composites (using the dreaded AI) and i did enjoy making them. At the same time i do enjoy a lot more get it right in camera and just enhancing it, but again it is ultimately my choice. You should never feel bad about something beautiful you created. As long as you are not hurting someone creating it, it really does not matter.
Excellent thought provoking vlog. Complete agreement with the last point in particular. The industry is definitely all about the gear and imho doesn't give a toss about what the normal photographer wants or needs. Nikon for example has decided to effectively ditch the F- mount format, abandoning hundreds of thousands of often loyal customers. Keep it up sir.
Excellent content. Really well said. It is always hard for me to believe that a process I love so much could disappear but I know it has happened in the past. I will keep watching and learning.
I love your message about making the photography industry to be about the photographer rather than the camera maker. Seeing a persons passion about the landscape, wildlife, fashion or whatever is so energising and positive. While looking at new gear is interesting its also negative, it drive us down a path of jealousy and greed. Planton is a great example I think, his energy and passion in his subjects produces portraits that are unique and fabulous, his gear is totally irrelevant to me.
I’ve recently started also shooting 120 film more, for the look mostly but also I’ve realised that process was something I loved and should incorporate that a lot more into my work. The process is important, I agree. My mind has started shifting slightly even when I have a digital in my hands (let’s face it, it’s usually always digital). It’s good for the soul.
Hope your conversation with your fellow photographer has convinced you to keep your channel Adam as your work is inspirational. Good topics for discussion and the last one was thought provoking and liked your comparison to the music industry
Very deep presentation. When the discussion of editing comes up, I believe those who admit to their editing no matter how small or large are more respected than those who try to pretend that their additions were real. Plus it also depends on the reason for your editing.
I really enjoy your videos so keep it up! I still consider myself new to photography since I got into it in April of 2020. IMO phones and social media have supersaturated things a bit. Now that I have good camera gear I hate taking pictures with my phone. I'd rather walk around and have the "burden" of my camera. Walking around national parks and tourist locations I feel that myself and others with cameras are actually a little unique now when compared to those who use a phone. A lot of times those with phones barely stop to take a picture. Just walking and clicking away, I dare say mindlessly at times. Recently I switched to mirrorless but also acquired a 1982 Nikon FM2 and a Mamiya C330 MF camera and I'm enjoying both. It's giving me another perspective of photography and it really is a different experience than digital photography.
one of the side effects of covid, has been less travel, and photographers forced to appreciate what is in their own back yards.. I am truly blessed, because the rocky mountains are a few hours drive away from my home on the Canadian prairies.. which have their own photographic language.... I see that in terms of "making a living" at photography, fewer and fewer people will be able to do that.. and they will be in niche markets like (shudder_) wedding photography., or high end fashion, and advertising.. for anyone else my take is that youtube channels, and seminars, and events teaching the vast majority who are enthusiastic amateurs will be the only other way to "make a living". ... I believe that people like you, and others on youtube are shifting the discussion from gear to the individual.. I do know that i take photographs to feed my soul.. not to impress others.. to that end i have invested in excellent camera bodies, and glass.. but ultimately those images don't take themselves if my gear sits in my bag in my closet.. people like you inspire me to get out of the house and feed my soul..
I think a big issue for me is always seeing images taken by friends with more expensive cameras (mirrorless/full frame etc) and feeling that because i can't afford kit like that I can't achieve the results I want and my photography dreams will never happen. I've slowly come to the realisation that I need to focus on the camera I have now and learn it inside out as there's stuff it can do that i wasn't even aware off so I haven't been using it to it's maximum potential. Spending money on supporting kit does help (tripod/filters/bag etc) but at the end of the day I guess you need to know how to get the best from the camera you have before you start dreaming about the next one.
I haven’t missed one of your videos in years and would be very disappointed should you decided to move away from TH-cam. The contend is always stimulating. Keep it up Adam.
I think photography will survive and hopefully thrive with creators like Peter McKinnon, who wrap life and experience around their photos. The days of intellectual photography is past, in my opinion. This is because we don't need to go the the mountain for our knowledge. Channels like yours bring the mountain to us. And we get to select which guru on which mountaintop we best relate to. We aren't forced to listen to just a handful of intellectual, self important mentors. We get to see that photography can be integrated into our life experiences and still produce photos that are as good as anything from some stodgy old 'master' showing photos in a gallery or exhibition.
Excellent video and very much a man after my own heart. I am a 35 year plus pro and I agree with pretty much everything you said in this video. In particular the rules and the gear. As you say the rules have been shaped not only by centuries of artistic endeavour but also by nature itself. The Fibonacci rules come from nature. Most "photographers" that I have seen that claim they don't abide by the rules are not actually very good photographers. As for gear it is about the gear that works for you in the environment that you work in. I have had photographers attempt to demean for using Fuji. Although to be fair one thought i was using a film camera. However this constant pixel peeking and back biting gets a little waring and is one reason I tend to avoid forums these days. I think the reason for this is that there are an awful lot of relatively poor photographers who are trying to justify the large sums they spent of equipment by demeaning others. When it comes to editing, does anyone think Ansel Adams' negatives looked like his prints. His prints were the realisation of his original vision, and that took some serious editing. Post production is an integral part of photography and always has been. Anyway keep up the great videos, I always enjoy your perspective.
An ex cop, I knew there was a reason I liked you. Photography is my second career too, although it has been the true passion in my life since I was 14. Great video, thank you!
I shoot mostly Film and develop and enlarge them myself. I don't do this because it's better photography, I do this because I like it and I gives ne joy.
There will always be a future for photography as long as there are tools to capture images and a means to share them. I recommend stocking up on the cameras you love while they're still available for a reasonable price. I've got several camera bodies for my preferred model put back in storage that I will dig out if the one I'm currently shooting fails. At the heart of photography is the desire to document and share, something humans have done since the days of cave paintings and will endure until our days on this little rock are gone.
I do agree to a certain level about capturing the popular locations but I believe to get things fresh, you have to take the road less travelled to get something unique
Interesting point you make in that last opinion! I believe the cameraindustry and social media do have an important role in destroying the future for photographers - sorry for the drama in this sentence. Let me ask you: did you ever here a guitarbuilder say 'buy this guitar because it makes playing music easy'? No, it needs lots of practice to be seen as a decent guitar player. That's where the cameraindustry keeps promoting their new cameras as 'easy to use', 'spot on everytime', 'easy focus', 'perfect for blogging'. The latter is directly connected to the evolution of social media. Where instagram used to be a great platform for photographers to expose their hard work, today it's all about reels, adding the right filter or music. A still frame doesn't get the attention it deserves anymore. Maybe that's our challange. Where millions of people stand and listen to a rockband on a podium, only few take their time to let a photograph sink in. Indeed: not because of the camerabrand, but with all attention to the artist.
Wonderful video. I appreciate hearing your point of view on these opinions. I feel like a lot of these unpopular opinions can get in the way of people just going out with whatever camera they have and taking pictures.
"you must have a good brush" - I know quite a lot of digital artists and apparently they are inundated with "what brushes did you use for that, can I get a link to the brushes you use, tell me about your brushes"
Rules of composition are helpful for those without a naturally good eye for balance, but like all things it's not an innate talent that can't be developed. Look at more photographs, look at art, learn to see how an artist sees. As for camera modes, I miss photos more often than not when I go out set on Manual. Manual is great for shots you set up and compose, but when the action is fast, you're going to miss the shot nine times out of ten (or more). The only thing I try to compensate for manually is picture style, contrast, white balance, color tone, and saturation, everything else is best left to the camera if you're shooting spontaneous images. If you're shooting a stationary object, sure, put in manual, you're not gonna miss anything that way.
Photography start point today is a phone camera, there will be a percentage who will decide they want more and move on, I can’t remember my first camera but it was basic. Some of these will be because they just want better photos of holidays/ families a few because of their hobbies and interests e.g. ornithology, car racing, train or plane spotting, some because they have a desire to be artistic and can see or create better images, others because they want to make it there living. I feel that looking back 60 years ago the costs kept potential photographers suppressed whereas the digital age has opened the arena up to more and providing camera manufacturers do not forget the needs of hobbyists and price them out of the equipment market the future could be good with the wealth of information freely available e.g. you tube vlogs and ebooks.
After using Sandisk for years without a single problem recently bought a Lexar for my Sony A7r3a and after 3 days of using In Iceland showed error and cannot be read in camera or in computer. Tried what support suggested but now success. Will never waste my money on a Lexar product again.
Funny, I’ve visited the UK twice now and after both visits I found myself desaturating photos because I assumed my various cameras had oversaturated them. Now you’ve got me to thinking that maybe everything really was that green. 😄
Well thought out and communicated. I believe we’re in the middle of a photography revolution. We’ve had them before: B&W to color; film to digital; and now cameras to smartphones. But it’s history repeating. George Eastman put cameras into the hands of the public, now it’s Apple.
Love your thoughtful, insightful and honest views on so many important and relevant photography topics, Adam. I'm always learning and am encouraged by your videos. Please keep delivering this great and valuable content!
just my opnion (so it is worth nothing). Yes, gear matters. I use an old dslr and very old lenses, and even though I achieve really good results, it can't compete with the quality of the most recent equipment, and I'm not even talking about the ratio of good shot/missed shot. The editing comments... I totally agree with you. A picture is an interpretation of what the photographer saw, it doesn't have to be representative of the reality. Imagine if you were like me, a film photographer, scanning and editing in Lr your negative, you can't imagine the number of comments I hear from people saying I shouldn't edit a negative, it is cheating, film photography used to be pure photography, no editing... If only those people knew how much work was done in the darkroom about the most iconic shots... Thank you for your work Adam
Ok. And another way to consider the flood of photography access is that when people see your work they will understand the difference. Most will know immediately that even if you both had the same tool your photo would far exceed anything they might do. That is, before taking one of your classes. 😊 Even then they will know. I believe you must keep on creating and you must participate otherwise the many stars that together light the night sky will leave darkness between the big show stars. We can’t have that.
Thanks Adam for a thought provoking video, always important to reflect and appreciate our craft. The future is exciting and important to us in such a turbulent and anxious time. Being able to create and share to bring joy and curiosity, no matter the size of the audience, is essential to both our well being and others. Keep creating and provoking Adam, we need it more than ever.
I don't watch you and others for gear info, it's about the knowledge and seeing how you work or see. Totally agree that the photography community in general sucks, too much jealousy and cliquishness. Sadly that seems to exist in every group, forum or club i've found so it doesn't look great for the community spirit. That negativity said I can't see photography ending it is too bit a therapy. Maybe people will go back to doing it more for themselves and not sharing as it was back in the film days. Though I've taken it up as a digital shooter and part of Social media, I hardly post now, instead I print and share it with a few friends (I'm sure they think OH no here he comes with more photos LOL) as they see me with an A4 box of prints 🙂 Keep up the good work.
Totally agree with all said. Is photography slowly disappearing? I am not so sure. Changing, yes. I started Photography for my mental health, and will continue to do so. It gets me out, or if poor weather I can do photography at home. It gets me thinking and keeps me experimenting. When I first started I had a few friends also start not long after and join me. So maybe its growing? For me, the way photography is changing is the Automation side of things. Example, mobile phones trying to replicate things like the bokeh effect. Sorry, when I see an image taken on an iPhone doing this it just looks awful, because its digitally done (badly) and to most of us photographers we can see the difference. Still to this day when my friends post images like that I still tell them to stop as the result would have been better without it!. I do like digital art, but I don't class this as true photography. I do have 3 Camera and one is a Canon 350D (yes its old! - my first DSLR) and I still use it from time to time, why? because I know what it can do and basically my skills grew with it - which makes it comfortable to use. Love the channel btw! - its always been inspiring.
I use my camera to look at the world and without it all the detail is in the peripheral not the focused. Great to get to new destination though you should enjoy the journey on the way!
i had the freat pleasure of meeting Ansel Adams, every photograph he produced was heavily edited. Darkroom an digital editing is an ar in itself. Excellant video
I was thinking about the 'Honeypot' location argument and I think it needs some modification. You see, I think it's not a problem to photograph at somewhere like Glencoe (Been there, images were ok'ish) but it's the intention to go there and take a near-identical image to the ones flooding social media and get even more likes which inevitably mean the ones that look like a nuclear explosion. I'd introduce you to my 'Lemming' theory of Human evolution if I had time, but suffice it to say there is huge social pressure to conform and people usually do. It takes courage to do otherwise. I was at a Honeypot last week (Avebury) but (mainly due to lack of planning and poor organisation probably) I didn't do any research on Social Media, so I had nothing to fall back on part from my own brief experience some years ago. So, I just photographed what I saw, not a pre-determined image (nothing wrong with pre-visualisation BTW) Are my pictures any good? Dunno, not seen them yet. Right that's my threepenn'orth as they say oop North (basically everywhere as I live in Cornwall). Off to buy a Chainsaw now for that Bleddy tree at Llanberis... Cheers.
I don't mind if people swap the sky in their photos. But I also believe you should keep the original image also. It's kind of line Star Wars episode 4,5,6 I don't mind that George Lucas re-edit Star Wars but I hated how he removed the original edits from the market. Take the photo you took in the forest and you added the sun star someone might like that version because it makes their home feel warmer and makes them feel happy?
Photography is in the hands of us photographers! We don’t have to go down the roads that the camera manufacturers want us to. New and latest cameras are great, but if you cannot really afford them then be satisfied with what you have and enjoy your own photos. My ‘gear’ is all used and has cost me just over £400! And for that I have two cameras, three lenses and a few accessories. I shoot on m4/3 and I am more than satisfied. I print to A3 and frame my work. Indeed if you only have a phone, use that. What does it matter as long as you are getting enjoyment out of it? It is ‘your’ work and don’t let anyone judge you ( unless you give them permission and want their advice ).
Keep up the good work Adam, you inspire us all!
I'd love for you, Sean Tucker, Alister Benn (@Expressive Photography) and Alex Kilbee (@The Photographic Eye) to have a group discussion about the meaning of photography as an art form. You all have similar non-gear-centric approaches to discussing photography, with your own individual spins and philosophies. It would be fascinating. Make it so!
This is one comment to say, Yes please too.
And I would add photographer Mattias Burling to that group discussion.
I really believe these reality based talks is very important to saving the art from technical implosion. Thank you Adam for being willing.
Yes indeed. Probably the least offensive yet thought provoking presenters I've seen.
@brandovlogs I only omitted Ted Forbes because he's gotten increasingly gear-centric in his content lately. But for discussing photography as an art form, he absolutely belongs.
please don't quit youtube, your videos are a great source of information, and a huge enjoyment. i look forward to more.
I for one hope you keep making videos because they are some of the best on YT. I agree with all you said, as for me the pleasure in photography is the capture, be it an Otter in the Balkan mountains or a landscape vista or even a strange looking character in the street, it's then the magic happens. The more preparation and planning that goes into making that happen the better the moment. I also find that when editing such photos I am continuously re living it, then as the " high " wears off we prepare and search for the next one. As for gear it doesn't matter until it does. As your skill grows so does your expectation, each lens or camera will take you to a certain point, then you and the camera must step up to the next level. Great video.
Thanks Chris. I feel very similar feelings with the “high”.
I don't have any idea if it is indicative of the lifespan of photography, but our local camera club here in a small town in North Carolina USA more than doubled in size this year. several of the new members are new to photography an one had never picked up a camera before. Our purpose as a club other than fellowship of like minded people is to help each other learn and grow as photographers. Our members range from completely new to professional.
That’s very encouraging to hear. thanks.
5 Points of total sense. Agree with every one. Really interesting the way you framed the "how much post processing is OK/not OK" question -> Subtractive processing OK, Additive processing not is a very good way putting it.
Yes, that’s just for my editing though. like I said, I’m not the gatekeeper.
I'm pretty much OK with any type of processing, as long as there's no intent to (seriously) deceive. Dead flat realistic, totally abstract / non-representational and all points in between can be good or bad quality. But the intent needs to be clear. Personally I'd like to somehow communicate the visceral "oomph" that I get when I see a beautiful scene. I can't say that I believe I've ever really done that, but it's a goal. Whether it's by a completely faithful rendering or a highly stylized interpretation is of secondary importance -- Just be honest. I have to admit I'm more (slightly) conflicted by selective compositions that -- aside from strictly compositional concerns -- carefully exclude what's not wanted in the photo. I.e., shoot the beautiful flower but crop out the ugly landfill next to it (as it were.) Goodness knows I've done that far too often given where I shoot...
Hi Adam. I am new to your channel but immediately subscribed. The title of this episode attracted me, and I agree with much of what you say, especially the last bit about photography being swamped by commercialism. From camera and other equipment makers, film makes in those days, and all the rest. Let me briefly explain that my own serious involvement in photography began in 1966 when I started my apprenticeship aged 16. I opened a commercial studio in 1971 and ran it for 10 years until photography had worn me out and I was fortunate enough to be able to take my talents in another direction. But I never stopped making pictures and still do - and that’s really what it’s all about. Making pictures. No matter by what means or to what end - all the rest is noise. That noise is what I tried to put behind me when I closed my studio, but of course it’s still there, and it’s a delicate balance to make oneself heard while not adding too much to the cacophony.
Very true words Adam! For me photography is a hobby, an escape that brings my mind by slowing the ‘process’ of observation and registration.
It was great to hear your opinion, Adam. You covered many topics that have come up in the comments of my channel and I've been thinking of tackling them myself. I admire the way you make your points and share your perspective, not attacking others as we are all on our own path, but providing your insight from the journey you've taken. Thank you, I think it might be time for a catch up soon! 😊👍
Agree with all your comments. I find mixing honey pot locations with other locations helps my photography. Trying to get the best out of a less attractive location can really get you thinking and then learning how to get the most from a scene, then when you take that knowledge with you to a honeypot location you can then really do that location justice too.
Thanks Adam! I agree with everything you say. The only thing I would add about gear is that if somebody’s choice of camera and lenses means they want to keep picking them up and shooting then it’s the right camera for them, because the more we pick up the camera and practice our craft, the better we will get. Sorry I didn’t respond to request for input on Twitter; I thought of several, but not enough characters to reply on one take. My one piece of advice I hear from some, which I don’t like, is only shoot in golden or blue hours. I find that too constraining. Wonderful as blue and golden hours are, there are times in the day, especially in winter, when we can get dramatic light. In the second half of December and first half of January, the sun doesn’t get high enough to become super harsh, except on a cloudless day with no haze.
Thanks--we need more discussions like this. On your points:
1) As Ansel said: "The single most important component of a camera is the 12 inches behind it" and it's true that a great photographer can produce better images with less-than-stellar gear more easily than a neophyte can with higher-end stuff. That said, certain equipment is better-suited (or in some cases required) for certain types of photography, although most modern mid-range or better cameras/lenses are more than capable of producing gallery-worthy results at large print sizes (keeping in mind a reasonable viewing distance--unless you're comparing brushstrokes, you don't view impressionist paintings with a magnifying glass or even at arm's length)! Rather than falling for marketing hype and blowing your money on larger-format/high-res bodies, it's more important to have ergonomically good, portable gear so you can actually get shots in hard-to-reach/awkward places (which is why MFT is my go-to format) and without calling undo attention to yourself.
2) Two words: "Rules suck!" OK, more words: rules destroy creativity and no numerically-based rule produces result in better images, full stop! Regarding composition, if it looks right TO YOU, it IS right. The main reason to learn the "rules of photography" (or any art form) is to generally avoid them (unless you like mimicking other's work rather than creating art)!
3) Occasional travel to "exotic" locations can provide opportunities for some great images, but a) IT'S NOT GREEN! We need to limit the use of fossil fuels just for "fun" or any other purpose. b) If you're lucky enough to live near some amazing terrain, architecture, wildlife, or anything else you like as subject, good for you; but if not, that's no excuse for failing to find "photoworthy" subjects. I live in an area not generally considered to be a photo hotspot, but I'm able on a regular basis to find and photograph some amazing things, most of them within walking distance from (or even in) our house. It helps that I primarily do "abstract" work, so I don't need jaw-dropping vistas or other "wonders of the world" as subjects. The point is, limitations and challenges make you a better photographer. Anyone can stand in certain locations, point a camera in almost any direction, and somebody will be impressed with the results; the good ones find new ways to "see" what others miss in the same location.
4) As you suggest, "editing is cheating" is an idiotic statement, as long as you're not trying to deliberately misrepresent your work (I'd argue that sky replacement using someone else's sky is misrepresentation). Again, from Ansel (OK, so he's my guru): "You don't take a photograph, you make it." Cameras simply don't see the world the same way as our eyes/visual cortex--the camera ALWAYs lies to a point. Obviously, if you're not color-blind, you don't see in B&W. The point is to realize your vision--what did you feel when you decided to record that image? How can you best convey that to the viewer?
5) Photography will always be here in some form and as long as I'm physically able, I'll continue to make photographs (previsualize/record/process/print) as will many others (including most of the people who watch channels like this, I expect). It's simply too therapeutic and rewarding to ever be far from my mind.
As always, a very informative video without being judgmental. I love your comment comparing "You must have a great camera" to "You must have a great brush".
I agree that the line between photograph and digital art is one you must define for yourself. I personally watermark my images now as "Photograph" or "Digital Art from Photo". One approach I would like to see for evaluation sessions and competitions is attaching one of the JPG previews created by the camera, to the submission. The viewer could then view the before and after.
Another great video Adam. The one comment that really struck me is about a photography community being lacking. I find this true. I am grateful for YT channels like yours because it does give me a bit of a sense of community. Keep providing content. You are unique and thoughtful in your approach. I really appreciate that.
I think what will 'save' photography are outlets like TH-cam were a working photographer can share their work and build a following. Before the Internet it was actually fairly difficult to learn about other photographers such as yourself, Adam. In fact I doubt I would have ever heard of many of the photographers I follow on TH-cam in the film days.
This is a great point to have made. Thanks for sharing
Please don't quit TH-cam I love your videos. I 100% agree on there doesn't seem to be a great photographic community on social media, which is why I'm so glad I found your stream!
Outstanding commentary. If I could "like" this video a dozen times over, I would. Top shelf content.
Thanks John. too kind.
Adam, your videos continue to be some of the most thought-ful that I regularly view. Please don't stop doing what you do!
Thanks Roger
Another great video Adam and I agree with what you are saying on all 5 points. To me as a novice+, the end result is what you, the person taking the photograph is happy with. Post processing is a personal choice, as is the camera mode you prefer to shoot in. Unless you are a pro., then don't worry. Get out there, enjoy your hobby and don't be concerned with all the different opinions of how to. Can't wait for your next upload!
I have to say, I agree with everything you say in here. There are a lot of 'phrases' that people blurt out without thinking. I am a photography enthusiast (blasted phrases) and for me it should just be something to enjoy. There should be no worry about following or not following rules, using jpeg, raw or artistic in camera presets etc. Take the photo you want to take, do what you want to do with it... bust most of all, enjoy it and embrace how you do it.
I hope we continue to see your TH-cam videos. You videos inspire me to get out into nature, especially in these dark times. I'm only a hobby photographer and still have lots to learn or perfect, the few channels I do follow on you tube are a massive part of my journey.
In saying that we all must walk the path that feels our souls.
I wish you well in yours and thank you for all you have gone.
I think the point where a photograph becomes digital art is when you start adding things that were not originally captured in that image, Sky replacements etc, On a FB group recently there was an image of Corf Castle, lit from the foreground with the sun rising behind it ????? People were queuing up to tell the guy what a fantastic image he had captured, He was just saying thank you, rather than being honest , REALLY winds me up, Beginners are going to try to capture similar images and will wonder why they fail
Hi Adam, my dad was a pro photographer and his dad. So when I bought my first camera it was a Ricoh KR10. My dad said - what's that, you should at least buy a Pentax. He had a job and took me along he gave me two rolls of kodachrome 64. When the pics were being viewed the client chose 70% of mine. I used that camera for 8 years before it gave up. The meter was matching needles. I like your vids very much thank you.
I love your videos! I am always looking forward to watching them! I also, like many in the comments, agree with these. However, I think the reason for photography being about gear more so than the art of photography is simply because of gear reviews and displays on social media. This always existed too but worsened once social media got a hold of it. To be fair, it is way easier to make camera reviews and get that affiliate money if you convince the viewer that he needs the same camera. Also, the camera talks are aging content, so you can always do more camera content.
I hope that we shift away from that soon though and teach the right things like you do here! But there are 2 major problems for many content creators:
1. photography technique, composition and the art in general is more difficult to grasp than hardware discussions - and then teaching it is harder
2. photography technique, composition and the art in general does not change every month with the release of a new piece of gear, forcing a more thoughtful approach and needing a lot more preparation for a social media post.
Anyways, I believe and hope that the future on these platforms will only belong to those that actually know what they are talking about and can teach these techniques very well. (Keep in mind that the beginner does not know what to look for and hence "How to capture a great landscape with the Canon R5" might still be the kind of titles we need to keep attracting new people)
But thanks again for the video. Amazing work!
Excellent message on all the points. I personally have entry level gear, but still get shots that I am proud of. Possibly if printed very large they may be unacceptable, but for the 8X10's that I print, they make me happy. I really appreciate that you focus on the adventure and story, rather than the gear. More and more channels are more gear focused. Just like golf, a set of Ping's will not make me a better golfer. But if I develop the skills first, the gear will matter. Keep up the great work. I am really enjoying your channel. Cheers.
Re editing, it is really important for folks doing photography to understand that when shooting in RAW, you are NOT capturing an image, but rather all the sensor data needed to make an image. When the camera presents an image from the RAW file, it has done so by interpreting the RAW data according to the settings you have selected in the camera. When you take the file into Lightroom, the program then interprets the data and creates an image based on the default settings in the program, which may look very different from what the camera presented. And that image is just one of many possible ways to interpret and present the RAW data. So when shooting in RAW, you are ALWAYS necessarily having to do post processing in order to create image files that can be viewed.
I agree, my camera is a tool to be used no matter the weather conditions, luckily the weather sealing works well as it has been abused this winter.
Exactly. I feel bad for people when they don't exploit that feature of their camera.
It's like in the supermarket, the best products are in the lower shelves and are often overlooked. Please don't stop producing videos, they're so good.
Lol. I disagree. If memory serves the best stuff was on the top shelf. and that not available anymore.
@@Firstmanphotography here in Germany all supermarkets have their own brand for the basic groceries and those are usually the best.. and they're always on the bottom shelf 😂 I thought that was a common practice, around europe at least... but anyways, it was meant as a compliment 😁
Adam, I love your no nonsense, no bullshit approach.
Thank Darren. really appreciate that.
Adam , very interesting set of ideas and thoughts. I genuinely do believe there is a future for quality photography but it will come from the same type of people as you and I, those that value and are committed to effort and skill producing a fine result. Its the same with music, driving, sports, whatever you choose to do those people will not take the easy route because thats just who they are. I also see from experience photographers out there who get interested through using the phone and progress to more considered and deliberate photography , they are the professionals and talented amateurs of the future and we should nurture and encourage them.
Adam as a senior citizen of 52 vintage I find you videos very interesting, inspiring and helpful. I feel my photography has gone from 0 to 6 or 7 and climbing out of 10. It would be a great shame if you were to stop. I have followed you for a very long time and look forward to seeing your videos.
Brilliant, the old classic, you must have a good camera 🤣. As a predominantly Street Photographer who also likes to try my hand at Landscape Photography I shot what I consider my best Landscape image on a Canon 1300D with 18-55mm Kit Lens, now I’m not saying it’s a great photo by your or any decent landscape photographers standard but for me, it was the best shot I’d taken, now quality wise I’ve taken much better images since.
As for not shooting the honey pot locations or that certain composition like the Lone Tree on Llyn Padarn in Llanberis, it may well be a “ cliche “ shot that’s been taken by every man and his dog, but I’ve not taken it. Now that’s not by choice, being unable to work, cash is in short supply, so I can’t just shoot off here and there when I want, as much as we’d all love to, life gets in the way.
Adam, I have noticed how often you’ve had an Olympus OM10 SLR with the manual adapter as a prop to open your videos with. It was my first camera and I bought it in the ship’s store before pulling into my first port as a US Navy Sailor. It had a 50mm lens on it. With no formal training I found myself taking some great images with it. I wish I still had the negatives so I could try printing again. My past prints are a bit faded today. With all that said, I didn’t know what GAS was back then. It was the only camera available for me to buy. I just wanted to take photos in all the places I was going to visit. Plus, an aircraft carrier is a pretty cool place to take photos too. I enjoy photography. Period. Thank you for letting us know how much you enjoy photography too.
I think I agree with pretty much all your points here. The one I'm commenting on, though, is regarding editing. I don't know if it's the case or not, but it feels like the people saying you shouldn't edit much, if any, are generally people who have learned through editorial processes. In editorial, photojournalism fields, editing more than just simple light/colour corrections changes the reality, and that's a no-no.
But work that you're doing falls into the artistic photography field, where, quite literally, snapping the photo is only one small part of the process. Finding "the" spot, waiting for the light you want, getting the settings dialed in JUST so with repeated shots, stacking images, and then...then....you go in and edit them. None of that is pressing the shutter release and calling it a day.
I tread (carefully) in both worlds, and I have to remind myself of the limits on editing when I'm doing news coverage and the lack of limits when I'm just shooting for myself. But no matter the format, I won't ever share a photo without SOME sort of editing, because even if it's simply a minor light or colour correct, every image (in my opinion) needs something touched in it.
Extremely thoughtful views and opinions. Your comments about gear and its place in photography were especially meaningful to me. Thank you for sharing.
Really enjoyed this video. A photography channel about photography. It’s getting rarer. Thanks.
Missed this one when you published it. Another great video, covering some very important points in an intelligent articulate manner.
Enjoyed the program... 👍 - as per usual.
I think that you see, or come into contact with an industry that is centred around camera companies rather than the photography community because you seem to be mainly ‘going it alone.’ By that, I mean, you have essentially chosen to isolate (for want of a better term) yourself, with all of your time making these excellent video productions, outside of your actual camera adventures.
The rest of us, whom enjoy your content, watch your videos, have the time, outside our day to day routine, to head on down to our favourite camera club to meet up with our peers and ‘talk/share photography’ and have fun while sharing our experiences or knowledge in a community setting.
I think that we can lose a bit of perspective about what is actually going on, outside in the community, if our commitments force us to continually be working alone.
Take live music... most people play, or listen to live music in a community setting... It is the person who only plays an instrument or listens to CD’s in their bedroom, that the corporate aspect becomes their priority, because they will only be looking to find/order their next piece of kit or CD. The same goes for every other past time... Football/Cricket... who makes the best equipment? If you only practice in your back yard, a lot of your time will be spent searching catalogues to compare the equipment... But you will find a whole community to share every part of the sport once you join a club. And so on.
During your conversations with your fellow YT creators, have you ever discussed creating a ‘club’ on top of your paid photography excursions that the local community can join and where you can melt into the crowd as a member yourself, rather than being THE ONLY teacher and possibly leaving the running of the club to other dedicated community members?
It is just a thought.
Yeah there are definitely pockets of communities. Landscape photography particularly is quite a solitary pursuit and my experience has been there are a large number of them who have no desire to collaborate. Fair enough obviously, but its one of the things I struggle with.
@@Firstmanphotography I completely understand you.
Superb Adam, i am very glad that there are pro photographers like you who are prepared to say uncomfortable things. You also put these points in a way that is comforting to those of use with older used equipment and reminds us to keep going, its me that needs to upgrade not my camera( not until i win the lottery anyway!)…thanks Del
Thanks Del. Always appreciate your comments.
Great video and the philosophical discussion. I have several gear intensive hobbies (photography, cycling, motorcycles, climbing, etc) and there is a focus on gear. If you do not have “this” then you are not doing it right. The focus isn’t that gear takes you places you may have never seen and to focus on being there. Don’t worry about having x, be in the place and enjoy it.
Excellent as always Adam! Great points very well made!
Good video (as always). Thanks for sharing brutha man.
Thanks for watching!
Your insight about the photography industry being centered on manufacturers is spot on. It’s discouraging but it is related to the professionals not getting the highest levels of the art out to the public without feeling competition BETWEEN them ; to use your analogy, musicians generally aren’t like this because they know their music is different to each other. Professional photography isn’t nearly as differentiated and so this has tended to let things fall back on the equipment in my opinion.
Adam, Another excellent video! Agreed with all you expressed. As I have mentioned before, there is an aspect of photography that is becoming very controversial, ending up in heated discussions and hatred, depending on the photographer and the people he or she associates with. A huge part of my photography has always been traveling to beautiful places primarily for photography. A great deal of anticipation and fun. Traveling to photo destinations has always been a significant part of the photo experience. To later say "Look what I got in Italy! Or, Iceland! Or, of the ancient ruins in Peru or Egypt! Or in the Galapagos Islands!" But, being a father of two girls, I have become extremely aware of my surroundings and what is happening to our environment as climate change becomes more and more disastrous and deadly. Until the travel industry converts to travel modes that do not create greenhouse gasses and other pollution, I have discontinued ALL air travel and significantly reduced my travel by auto, staying close to home to utilize my home country for photography. Wish I could visit many of the national parks and far away countries to get incredible photos, but that is no longer my right when requiring significant use of means of travel that creates more carbon emissions in our precious atmosphere. As the electric travel industry increases, then it will become more desirable again. But, I am not in the position to purchase expensive electric vehicles, so must wait for costs to come down. Fat chance in today's absolutely absurd world. The electric vehicle industry is not catering to the average human being. Today I am not impressed to see gorgeous photography when learning that the photographer traveled many hundreds or thousands of miles just for the photo opportunities. No longer impressed, and very saddened and sickened. Sadly, that is the state of today's world in which our children are relying on us adults to treat our environment far more carefully for our children's future, so they have a world to enjoy. Thank you.
Agree Walter. Unfortunately photography tourism with its negative impact on the environment has become extremely popular, sadly driven by some very well known TH-camrs - one in particular I watched for several years, appreciating his honest approach - until he hit around 500K subs and decided to spend his time on excessive travel to precious habitats like Iceland (not to mention an exclusive Antarctic 'photography cruise for those who can afford it') which simply screamed 'dont do this yourselves, but its ok for me'. I stopped watching well over a year ago, so dont know if this very successful TH-camr changed his ways, but in many ways the damage is already done.
Those who take flights purely to get a photo are writing cheques that our children will have to pay.
I really enjoyed your video. Your thoughts on photography make a lot of sense to me. l've been shooting for many years. I started as a photojournalist, and did all of my own darkroom work, as many Photojournalists did back then. As a photojournalist we could get fired for manipulating any image, (beyond burning, dodging, and contrast essentially) particularly when digital cameras came on the market. Other than that I definitely made changes to images in the darkroom when I shot for my own photo business. Burning, dodging, nose grease, unsharp masking to sharpen stuff up, using crumpled plastic to soften images, filters for adding or reducing contrast, etc. So, with the exception of shooting for newspapers, I've always manipulated images and still do in adobe raw and photoshop. Anyways, I think you're definitely on target with what you've stated.
Good vid, good thoughts worthy of sharing and discussion. Thanks
Much appreciated
Adam, your last point is really unnerving and so important to realise. It is true that the focus on the craft needs to be much higher. In that way, photographic content will travel beyond the passionate niche and attract those who can simply enjoy something true, soulful, and beautiful. Thank you and kind of expect you to show the way...
I agree with your points. While I still shoot on 35mm or 5x4 (I know sad) I make sure the final image is something to look at and enjoy. Not looking for any hidden meaning or concept, just having fun..... And yes I'm happy to manipulate in photoshop if i think it helps the composition........
Thank you for a thought provoking video. I really enjoy taking photographs and continually trying to develop my creativity/style as well as recording what I find to be of interest. Having grown up using film SLRs I find it a chore to edit photos from a DSLR on a PC but no more than it was to enlarge and print in the dark, although that was a bit more active. Both methods are essential if photography is to be considered an art. The alternative is to pass on your negatives or RAW images to a technician and hope for the best. However I also find the whole technical side of cameras, lenses, programs, lighting and new technology fascinating. I think that, as human beings, we have the ability to and can embrace all of these without feeling that one approach is better or more correct than any other.
Photography is such a great adventure. It is like following an endless river. Those who are not using a camera have no idea what they are missing. With hunting and other hobbies becoming more expensive, I see nature and wildlife photography only becoming more popular
You are right, going out with my camera helps my physical and mental well being, as generally I am on my own like most landscape photographers. With the various Photoshop tools now available, such as sky replacement, they must be used tastefully and people should be honest and upfront about extreme editing they do to their photos and as you say they are a form of art.
Excellent content. I guess the most asked question about digital cameras is: "How many megapixels is it". While I think the more important one is: "How good is the image quality?"
Great point!
Really enjoyed this one, so i’ll add my two pennies worth. 1. Does gear matter- yes a lens with better optics always helps, but as with any equipment it’s the understanding the operator has that makes the difference.
2. We should understand the rules- not really convinced with that one. many of the great photographers past and present ignore the rules but understand how to produce great images. I think some people have a natural ability to understand what looks good without rules.
3. Editing is cheating- yes and no. I was brought up in a darkroom, dodging and burning etc so photoshop/ lightroom is a godsend, however I feel very uncomfortable by those people who add things to an image to make it more pleasing like a sky that wasn’t there or a mist. That then as far as I am concerned is no longer a representation of the moment captured and just becomes a piece of art even if it is more pleasing. The photography I like captures an instant.
4 will photography die? - In its current form as certain types such as product photography yes probably with current technology and A.I. I can see those aspects disappearing, but the hope lies with the individual, the amateur so to speak. When I take photographs I not only go there to produce a great photo, but give myself the time to experience the moment and the photo reminds me of that moment. I think in the realms of professional photography that sometimes gets lost
I think it is hard to tell if the sky or mist has been added if done well. Especially if it’s a better Sky shot later on in the same scene, blended
Awesome video Adam! Everything you said was spot on in my opinion!! Thanks for sharing!!
Hi there, I first would like to say, that i really enjoy your attitude and tendency to ask for normal conversation. My 2 cents about editing: What's the big deal ? As you say photography is an art. If i want to do a composite and you like it, well great. If it is journalism yes sure. It needs to reflect the reality, but really it is not. This is art and you or i or anyone really can be as expressive as he/she wants. I have few composites (using the dreaded AI) and i did enjoy making them. At the same time i do enjoy a lot more get it right in camera and just enhancing it, but again it is ultimately my choice. You should never feel bad about something beautiful you created. As long as you are not hurting someone creating it, it really does not matter.
“That’s how I felt when I was there” …….exactly, my friend…exactly. Editing adds feeling to an otherwise emotionless image.
it comes down to the final image, the work involved in making it and the next image!
Excellent thought provoking vlog. Complete agreement with the last point in particular. The industry is definitely all about the gear and imho doesn't give a toss about what the normal photographer wants or needs. Nikon for example has decided to effectively ditch the F- mount format, abandoning hundreds of thousands of often loyal customers. Keep it up sir.
Really enjoy your channel which apart from other channels gives honesty. Beaut photos as always Adam.
Excellent content. Really well said. It is always hard for me to believe that a process I love so much could disappear but I know it has happened in the past. I will keep watching and learning.
I love your message about making the photography industry to be about the photographer rather than the camera maker. Seeing a persons passion about the landscape, wildlife, fashion or whatever is so energising and positive. While looking at new gear is interesting its also negative, it drive us down a path of jealousy and greed. Planton is a great example I think, his energy and passion in his subjects produces portraits that are unique and fabulous, his gear is totally irrelevant to me.
I’ve recently started also shooting 120 film more, for the look mostly but also I’ve realised that process was something I loved and should incorporate that a lot more into my work. The process is important, I agree. My mind has started shifting slightly even when I have a digital in my hands (let’s face it, it’s usually always digital). It’s good for the soul.
Hope your conversation with your fellow photographer has convinced you to keep your channel Adam as your work is inspirational. Good topics for discussion and the last one was thought provoking and liked your comparison to the music industry
Very deep presentation. When the discussion of editing comes up, I believe those who admit to their editing no matter how small or large are more respected than those who try to pretend that their additions were real. Plus it also depends on the reason for your editing.
I really enjoy your videos so keep it up!
I still consider myself new to photography since I got into it in April of 2020. IMO phones and social media have supersaturated things a bit. Now that I have good camera gear I hate taking pictures with my phone. I'd rather walk around and have the "burden" of my camera. Walking around national parks and tourist locations I feel that myself and others with cameras are actually a little unique now when compared to those who use a phone. A lot of times those with phones barely stop to take a picture. Just walking and clicking away, I dare say mindlessly at times. Recently I switched to mirrorless but also acquired a 1982 Nikon FM2 and a Mamiya C330 MF camera and I'm enjoying both. It's giving me another perspective of photography and it really is a different experience than digital photography.
one of the side effects of covid, has been less travel, and photographers forced to appreciate what is in their own back yards.. I am truly blessed, because the rocky mountains are a few hours drive away from my home on the Canadian prairies.. which have their own photographic language.... I see that in terms of "making a living" at photography, fewer and fewer people will be able to do that.. and they will be in niche markets like (shudder_) wedding photography., or high end fashion, and advertising.. for anyone else my take is that youtube channels, and seminars, and events teaching the vast majority who are enthusiastic amateurs will be the only other way to "make a living". ... I believe that people like you, and others on youtube are shifting the discussion from gear to the individual.. I do know that i take photographs to feed my soul.. not to impress others.. to that end i have invested in excellent camera bodies, and glass.. but ultimately those images don't take themselves if my gear sits in my bag in my closet.. people like you inspire me to get out of the house and feed my soul..
I think a big issue for me is always seeing images taken by friends with more expensive cameras (mirrorless/full frame etc) and feeling that because i can't afford kit like that I can't achieve the results I want and my photography dreams will never happen.
I've slowly come to the realisation that I need to focus on the camera I have now and learn it inside out as there's stuff it can do that i wasn't even aware off so I haven't been using it to it's maximum potential.
Spending money on supporting kit does help (tripod/filters/bag etc) but at the end of the day I guess you need to know how to get the best from the camera you have before you start dreaming about the next one.
I haven’t missed one of your videos in years and would be very disappointed should you decided to move away from TH-cam. The contend is always stimulating. Keep it up Adam.
Wow, thank you
I think photography will survive and hopefully thrive with creators like Peter McKinnon, who wrap life and experience around their photos. The days of intellectual photography is past, in my opinion. This is because we don't need to go the the mountain for our knowledge. Channels like yours bring the mountain to us. And we get to select which guru on which mountaintop we best relate to. We aren't forced to listen to just a handful of intellectual, self important mentors. We get to see that photography can be integrated into our life experiences and still produce photos that are as good as anything from some stodgy old 'master' showing photos in a gallery or exhibition.
Excellent video and very much a man after my own heart. I am a 35 year plus pro and I agree with pretty much everything you said in this video. In particular the rules and the gear. As you say the rules have been shaped not only by centuries of artistic endeavour but also by nature itself. The Fibonacci rules come from nature. Most "photographers" that I have seen that claim they don't abide by the rules are not actually very good photographers.
As for gear it is about the gear that works for you in the environment that you work in. I have had photographers attempt to demean for using Fuji. Although to be fair one thought i was using a film camera. However this constant pixel peeking and back biting gets a little waring and is one reason I tend to avoid forums these days. I think the reason for this is that there are an awful lot of relatively poor photographers who are trying to justify the large sums they spent of equipment by demeaning others.
When it comes to editing, does anyone think Ansel Adams' negatives looked like his prints. His prints were the realisation of his original vision, and that took some serious editing. Post production is an integral part of photography and always has been. Anyway keep up the great videos, I always enjoy your perspective.
An ex cop, I knew there was a reason I liked you. Photography is my second career too, although it has been the true passion in my life since I was 14. Great video, thank you!
Ha. Thanks Alan.
I shoot mostly Film and develop and enlarge them myself. I don't do this because it's better photography, I do this because I like it and I gives ne joy.
Hi Adam, another great video and goid content.
There will always be a future for photography as long as there are tools to capture images and a means to share them. I recommend stocking up on the cameras you love while they're still available for a reasonable price. I've got several camera bodies for my preferred model put back in storage that I will dig out if the one I'm currently shooting fails. At the heart of photography is the desire to document and share, something humans have done since the days of cave paintings and will endure until our days on this little rock are gone.
I do agree to a certain level about capturing the popular locations but I believe to get things fresh, you have to take the road less travelled to get something unique
I’m definitely an advocate of getting off the beaten track.
Brilliant essay: well said!
Interesting point you make in that last opinion! I believe the cameraindustry and social media do have an important role in destroying the future for photographers - sorry for the drama in this sentence. Let me ask you: did you ever here a guitarbuilder say 'buy this guitar because it makes playing music easy'? No, it needs lots of practice to be seen as a decent guitar player. That's where the cameraindustry keeps promoting their new cameras as 'easy to use', 'spot on everytime', 'easy focus', 'perfect for blogging'. The latter is directly connected to the evolution of social media. Where instagram used to be a great platform for photographers to expose their hard work, today it's all about reels, adding the right filter or music. A still frame doesn't get the attention it deserves anymore. Maybe that's our challange. Where millions of people stand and listen to a rockband on a podium, only few take their time to let a photograph sink in. Indeed: not because of the camerabrand, but with all attention to the artist.
Wonderful video. I appreciate hearing your point of view on these opinions. I feel like a lot of these unpopular opinions can get in the way of people just going out with whatever camera they have and taking pictures.
Hey Adam. 5.30 - 5.42: Very well said. Subscribed.
Really appreciate that. thanks.
Hi Adam I really enjoy your TH-cam videos and this was no exception...
Thanks Steve. much appreciated
"you must have a good brush" - I know quite a lot of digital artists and apparently they are inundated with "what brushes did you use for that, can I get a link to the brushes you use, tell me about your brushes"
Rules of composition are helpful for those without a naturally good eye for balance, but like all things it's not an innate talent that can't be developed. Look at more photographs, look at art, learn to see how an artist sees. As for camera modes, I miss photos more often than not when I go out set on Manual. Manual is great for shots you set up and compose, but when the action is fast, you're going to miss the shot nine times out of ten (or more). The only thing I try to compensate for manually is picture style, contrast, white balance, color tone, and saturation, everything else is best left to the camera if you're shooting spontaneous images. If you're shooting a stationary object, sure, put in manual, you're not gonna miss anything that way.
Always feel inspired after watching your videos Adam 👏👌
Photography start point today is a phone camera, there will be a percentage who will decide they want more and move on, I can’t remember my first camera but it was basic. Some of these will be because they just want better photos of holidays/ families a few because of their hobbies and interests e.g. ornithology, car racing, train or plane spotting, some because they have a desire to be artistic and can see or create better images, others because they want to make it there living. I feel that looking back 60 years ago the costs kept potential photographers suppressed whereas the digital age has opened the arena up to more and providing camera manufacturers do not forget the needs of hobbyists and price them out of the equipment market the future could be good with the wealth of information freely available e.g. you tube vlogs and ebooks.
After using Sandisk for years without a single problem recently bought a Lexar for my Sony A7r3a and after 3 days of using In Iceland showed error and cannot be read in camera or in computer. Tried what support suggested but now success. Will never waste my money on a Lexar product again.
Funny, I’ve visited the UK twice now and after both visits I found myself desaturating photos because I assumed my various cameras had oversaturated them. Now you’ve got me to thinking that maybe everything really was that green. 😄
Well thought out and communicated. I believe we’re in the middle of a photography revolution. We’ve had them before: B&W to color; film to digital; and now cameras to smartphones. But it’s history repeating. George Eastman put cameras into the hands of the public, now it’s Apple.
Love your thoughtful, insightful and honest views on so many important and relevant photography topics, Adam. I'm always learning and am encouraged by your videos. Please keep delivering this great and valuable content!
Thanks Valerie, really appreciate the comment.
just my opnion (so it is worth nothing).
Yes, gear matters. I use an old dslr and very old lenses, and even though I achieve really good results, it can't compete with the quality of the most recent equipment, and I'm not even talking about the ratio of good shot/missed shot.
The editing comments... I totally agree with you. A picture is an interpretation of what the photographer saw, it doesn't have to be representative of the reality. Imagine if you were like me, a film photographer, scanning and editing in Lr your negative, you can't imagine the number of comments I hear from people saying I shouldn't edit a negative, it is cheating, film photography used to be pure photography, no editing... If only those people knew how much work was done in the darkroom about the most iconic shots...
Thank you for your work Adam
Ok. And another way to consider the flood of photography access is that when people see your work they will understand the difference. Most will know immediately that even if you both had the same tool your photo would far exceed anything they might do. That is, before taking one of your classes. 😊 Even then they will know. I believe you must keep on creating and you must participate otherwise the many stars that together light the night sky will leave darkness between the big show stars. We can’t have that.
Thank you for the informative content!
100% with you the gear subject and the other points as well 👏
Thanks Adam for a thought provoking video, always important to reflect and appreciate our craft. The future is exciting and important to us in such a turbulent and anxious time. Being able to create and share to bring joy and curiosity, no matter the size of the audience, is essential to both our well being and others. Keep creating and provoking Adam, we need it more than ever.
I don't watch you and others for gear info, it's about the knowledge and seeing how you work or see. Totally agree that the photography community in general sucks, too much jealousy and cliquishness.
Sadly that seems to exist in every group, forum or club i've found so it doesn't look great for the community spirit. That negativity said I can't see photography ending it is too bit a therapy. Maybe people will go back to doing it more for themselves and not sharing as it was back in the film days. Though I've taken it up as a digital shooter and part of Social media, I hardly post now, instead I print and share it with a few friends (I'm sure they think OH no here he comes with more photos LOL) as they see me with an A4 box of prints 🙂
Keep up the good work.
Totally agree with all said. Is photography slowly disappearing? I am not so sure. Changing, yes. I started Photography for my mental health, and will continue to do so. It gets me out, or if poor weather I can do photography at home. It gets me thinking and keeps me experimenting. When I first started I had a few friends also start not long after and join me. So maybe its growing?
For me, the way photography is changing is the Automation side of things. Example, mobile phones trying to replicate things like the bokeh effect. Sorry, when I see an image taken on an iPhone doing this it just looks awful, because its digitally done (badly) and to most of us photographers we can see the difference. Still to this day when my friends post images like that I still tell them to stop as the result would have been better without it!. I do like digital art, but I don't class this as true photography. I do have 3 Camera and one is a Canon 350D (yes its old! - my first DSLR) and I still use it from time to time, why? because I know what it can do and basically my skills grew with it - which makes it comfortable to use.
Love the channel btw! - its always been inspiring.
I use my camera to look at the world and without it all the detail is in the peripheral not the focused. Great to get to new destination though you should enjoy the journey on the way!
i had the freat pleasure of meeting Ansel Adams, every photograph he produced was heavily edited. Darkroom an digital editing is an ar in itself.
Excellant video
I was thinking about the 'Honeypot' location argument and I think it needs some modification. You see, I think it's not a problem to photograph at somewhere like Glencoe (Been there, images were ok'ish) but it's the intention to go there and take a near-identical image to the ones flooding social media and get even more likes which inevitably mean the ones that look like a nuclear explosion. I'd introduce you to my 'Lemming' theory of Human evolution if I had time, but suffice it to say there is huge social pressure to conform and people usually do. It takes courage to do otherwise. I was at a Honeypot last week (Avebury) but (mainly due to lack of planning and poor organisation probably) I didn't do any research on Social Media, so I had nothing to fall back on part from my own brief experience some years ago. So, I just photographed what I saw, not a pre-determined image (nothing wrong with pre-visualisation BTW) Are my pictures any good? Dunno, not seen them yet. Right that's my threepenn'orth as they say oop North (basically everywhere as I live in Cornwall). Off to buy a Chainsaw now for that Bleddy tree at Llanberis... Cheers.
I completely agree with you on all of your points. Not much else I can say. 🤣
Ha. thanks for the comment
I don't mind if people swap the sky in their photos. But I also believe you should keep the original image also.
It's kind of line Star Wars episode 4,5,6 I don't mind that George Lucas re-edit Star Wars but I hated how he removed the original edits from the market.
Take the photo you took in the forest and you added the sun star someone might like that version because it makes their home feel warmer and makes them feel happy?