man, I've to say it - I've been in a kayak 2 or 3 times tops, watching you dwelve into kayaks is really inspiring and makes me realize how perseverance and passion bring to beautiful things. Cheers!
A great video and almost a kayak design course in 30 minutes. Having designed and built 5 kayaks in stitch and glue, including one sectional triple, I feel all the information here is of the utmost utility and very honest. Thanks from Italy.
thank you Brian for an excellent and even more informative update. I look forward to the next version. I was out again today in my F1, a year old now, and for me lightness was an important factor. I can lift, carry and generally move the boat without the stresses and strains I encountered with plastic and fibreglass boats (even Carbon fibre aren't as light as I'd expected) and I find myself having to slow down for others a lot of times, so have been pleased with the speed. I recommend the F1 to anybody who wants to build a versatile and enjoyable, practical, seaworthy kayak.
Amazing, I don't think there is any kayak manufacturer that goes into this degree of detail in explaining their design. Thank you Brian for keep pushing the envelope in this SOF space. I will build one with you once we are able to see another human being again :)
Check out his website. He has a video and a set of plans on how to make a greenland paddle. I've already made three and it is pretty easy and lots of fun.
Brian, hope you are doing well and your health is stable or improving. You are an inredible craftsman (boat building and video-making!). Looking forward to my first build of the F1.
It has taken a while for me to understand how well-designed the F1 is and to let go of my "gotta have Greenland" notions. I should build an F1 first and then if I still care to and find the opportunity--make a long pointy one so I can experience them both. I'm sure the F1 is the best for my own needs. We'll be in touch.
The F1 is very good, I can recommend it, if you look up the Student Builds on the CFK website, you can get a variety of reports and accounts from around the world. Best wishes.
@@chris-terrell-liveactive Yes thanks Chris. I've seen just about everything Brian has put out in the last five years. Just haven't had the chance to bend me up frame and wrap it yet. Paddle on.
Hello my friend. I intend to build a kayak, following his models. my questions are: How long should i build and width of the center, because my weight is 128kg?
I wish I could give you more I’ve got health issues so I can’t get out on the water anymore and there’s just not a lot of really competent ocean wave kayak surfers out here. I wish we had drones and cameras back when I was doing this really aggressively in my 20s.
I've always been interested in the SOF yaks, but some I've talked to say they aren't stiff enough and stiffness is much needed. Anyone have a comment on that philosophy?
Sure, there’s not really any truth in that. In a sailboat a stiffer hull results in more thrust being transmitted and less losses but in human powered craft unless you’re paddling a floppy noodle there is no appreciable loss of power. Some skin boats flex more than others but at least if were talking about mine you would never actually notice any flex you would just noticed that the boat is a little bit quieter and a little less Slappy on the water. Really what matters in a kayak is not what material it’s made out of but just how well it’s designed. A poorly designed skin boat is going to paddle just as badly as a poorly designed fiberglass boat. Folding kayaks by the way flex a lot more than single piece skin on frame kayaks.
You should check out my skin on frame durability video, I go into a lot of detail there but just briefly. What you would find is that it’s a lot more impact resistant than a glass boat, and a bit less abrasion resistant. So let’s say you get side served really hard into a rock or even if your boat fills with water and gets thrown up onto the rocks that’s generally not gonna be a problem, but if you’re missing your timing on poor overs and really scraping the rock with your full body weight it’s unlikely that you’re going to get a puncture but it’s going to be pretty hard on the skin. One option is to bump up to a heavier skin. I was exclusively a coastal paddler for most of my life and I didn’t find the kayak limiting. Depends on the exact situation though I guess.
Hi Brian, nice footage and kayak as well. I wonder, how a SFO kayak is able to cope with rivers with some stony steps. A Polyester canoe will do it, as well as a better (no intex or something like that) inflatable kayak. Not wildwater, but the usual shallow areas with ground contact possible. Can you give an advise, please?
I’ve done a huge amount of inflatable kayaking in my life and nothing compares to the toughness of the Aire fabric and coatings, although I can’t speak for other brands or their budget models. As for skin on frame it really depends on the layup. My basic lightweight layup that you see here is unlikely to suffer any sort of a failure from even hard impacts with round edged rocks. It’s also normally OK with accidental strikes from sharper rocks but that sort of treatment adds up over time resulting in frequent re-skins. For situations where you’re going to be hitting a lot of rocks frequently do you want to bump up to a heavier skin. Typically I go with 12 ounce instead of 9 ounce and about 30% more coating which adds about 4 to 5 pounds to finished the boat. In that case I will usually make the stringers and the keel out of a slightly stronger wood as well. If you want to see this in real life you could check out the video series that I’m currently posting on my Instagram @capefalconbuilds where we take the lightweight layup, overload some canoes and then take it on a week of rock bashing on a river trip. For the last post I plan to do a montage of everything we hit and the damage to the bottom. You can also check out the video here on my channel that is titled: skin on frame durability. The bottom line is that they aren’t indestructible but they’re a lot tougher than they look.
Check out the capefalconkayaks.com website. You can buy plans there, a video course for building the F1, a kit of parts that otherwise might be a pain to source. I can't wait until I am able to build one, hopefully in 2022. Do check out the website. There are a lot of free course materials there as well....and no, I'm not a spokesperson for CFK, just very excited to have found such a quality kayak with outstanding builder resources!
@@DavidWing I've been on a Fakebook kayak group for 10 years and haven't built one yet due to trying to finish up building my home. I've seen many different designs but this one seams like the design that would work for me the best due to the length, stability and places where I'd be paddling. Thanks.
Qué lástima que no tenga activado los subtítulos. No comprendo bien el inglés. De todas formas, gracias por las imágenes. Too bad it doesn't have subtitles turned on. I don't understand English well. Anyway, thanks for the pictures.
@@capefalconkayak Thanks for answering ... Subtitles are very important to reach more people who do not speak that language or have hearing difficulties. Could you try uploading it again with the subtitles option turned on? It's my pleasure to follow you, but I don't understand English. Thank you very much for all your videos. A cordial greeting. (Helped with Google translate)
Appreciate your desire to learn, but unfortunately there is nothing we can do on our end. We upload all of our videos with the subtitle option enabled, but ultimately TH-cam controls which videos they render subtitles for.
Por si sirve... De soporte de Google ... "Solucionar problemas de los subtítulos automáticos Si el vídeo no genera subtítulos automáticos, puede deberse a alguno de los siguientes motivos: El audio del vídeo está tardando en procesarse debido a su complejidad. Los subtítulos automáticos no están disponibles en el idioma del vídeo. El vídeo es demasiado largo. La calidad del sonido es mala o TH-cam no puede reconocer el habla. Hay un largo periodo de silencio al principio del vídeo. Los discursos de varias personas se superponen. "
Pretty easy to change the seating, but the system I use is surprisingly comfortable. Sometimes people don't believe me and will spend big $$ on a custom seat, but they almost always end up going back to my setup. For more info on the outfitting check out my Skin on Frame Details video Part 2, and the Suspended Seat video. As a coastal paddler I was often in the saddle all day (and a few times all night) so comfort is essential.
The seat is super comfy. The foam isn't on a hard surface, it's on the kayak skin. And the boat design is terrific. I can go whatever direction I like no matter how windy. And light too. Love it.
I've found the seating approach very comfortable (I'm 60) and allows me to wriggle a bit on a longer trip to shift any pressure points - these happen more through whatever I'm wearing than from the boat. A ribbed foam mat has comfort as well as other practical advantages.
Its not too long but a lot of information and - thats the point: you talk like a waterfall, that strains +overloads (YTdesease). Take a braeth sometimes and give yor audience chance to let it sink... fleckber*/Vienna
Brilliant. The world needs more people like you in it.
A very honest and informative person!
This may be the best sales-pitch I've ever seen! It reeks of expertise and integrity and I, for one, am sold. You'll be hearing from me!
man, I've to say it - I've been in a kayak 2 or 3 times tops, watching you dwelve into kayaks is really inspiring and makes me realize how perseverance and passion bring to beautiful things. Cheers!
Maybe this is the year I finally build an F1. Thanks for the video.
A great video and almost a kayak design course in 30 minutes. Having designed and built 5 kayaks in stitch and glue, including one sectional triple, I feel all the information here is of the utmost utility and very honest. Thanks from Italy.
Wow, I am in awe at the way you share your deep experience. Thank you very much!
thank you Brian for an excellent and even more informative update. I look forward to the next version. I was out again today in my F1, a year old now, and for me lightness was an important factor. I can lift, carry and generally move the boat without the stresses and strains I encountered with plastic and fibreglass boats (even Carbon fibre aren't as light as I'd expected) and I find myself having to slow down for others a lot of times, so have been pleased with the speed. I recommend the F1 to anybody who wants to build a versatile and enjoyable, practical, seaworthy kayak.
This video is such a great intro to kayak hull design!
Amazing, I don't think there is any kayak manufacturer that goes into this degree of detail in explaining their design. Thank you Brian for keep pushing the envelope in this SOF space. I will build one with you once we are able to see another human being again :)
Thanks!
This ART work ,so beautiful .
Looking forward to the updated video!
That's a great looking boat Brian.
Excellent information! Thanks for the details - and keep making long and longer videos.
f1 is a buetiful boat
Showing us Oars made of the same construction would be a perfect package.
Check out his website. He has a video and a set of plans on how to make a greenland paddle. I've already made three and it is pretty easy and lots of fun.
@loren Rademacher Thank you.
Yes im very interested in the plans.
Brian, hope you are doing well and your health is stable or improving. You are an inredible craftsman (boat building and video-making!). Looking forward to my first build of the F1.
Congratulations sir.... wonderful work
Thanks from Siberia, you are doing a great job. Going to build F1 this winter, wood is not a problem, but skin...
looking forward to building an F1, just got the workspace for one and am gathering the power tools
Thanks Brian! you really put a lot of time and heart in this video just to help people (like me) learn. Awesome!!!
This is so informative and interesting. I had thought I might build a west Greenland, but I think you’ve convinced me to try it
sir i like the style of your kayak f1
Thanks for your video! That's cool!
Thank you. Lot's of value.
It has taken a while for me to understand how well-designed the F1 is and to let go of my "gotta have Greenland" notions. I should build an F1 first and then if I still care to and find the opportunity--make a long pointy one so I can experience them both. I'm sure the F1 is the best for my own needs. We'll be in touch.
The F1 is very good, I can recommend it, if you look up the Student Builds on the CFK website, you can get a variety of reports and accounts from around the world. Best wishes.
@@chris-terrell-liveactive Yes thanks Chris. I've seen just about everything Brian has put out in the last five years. Just haven't had the chance to bend me up frame and wrap it yet. Paddle on.
Thanks so much for posting pretty big kayak and myself have a couple with low appreciate roughly price of some
Приветствую. Очень хорошая байдарка.
Hello my friend. I intend to build a kayak, following his models. my questions are: How long should i build and width of the center, because my weight is 128kg?
Great from Indonesia
good video; but what about updates on your prototype :-)
Wow good beautiful
очень интересно а есть ли у вас идеи по постройке чего то похожего но что бы можно было с собакой отправиться в плавание,с палаткой
Great review, all you did not mention was rolling.
Has anyone done a video of kayaks wave surfing? Your brief image of wave surfing made me want more.
I wish I could give you more I’ve got health issues so I can’t get out on the water anymore and there’s just not a lot of really competent ocean wave kayak surfers out here. I wish we had drones and cameras back when I was doing this really aggressively in my 20s.
@@capefalconkayak I did a search on youtube and did find many videos on kayak wave surfing. Thanks.
I've always been interested in the SOF yaks, but some I've talked to say they aren't stiff enough and stiffness is much needed. Anyone have a comment on that philosophy?
Sure, there’s not really any truth in that. In a sailboat a stiffer hull results in more thrust being transmitted and less losses but in human powered craft unless you’re paddling a floppy noodle there is no appreciable loss of power. Some skin boats flex more than others but at least if were talking about mine you would never actually notice any flex you would just noticed that the boat is a little bit quieter and a little less Slappy on the water. Really what matters in a kayak is not what material it’s made out of but just how well it’s designed. A poorly designed skin boat is going to paddle just as badly as a poorly designed fiberglass boat. Folding kayaks by the way flex a lot more than single piece skin on frame kayaks.
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How does the F1 hold up to surf and rock hopping?
You should check out my skin on frame durability video, I go into a lot of detail there but just briefly. What you would find is that it’s a lot more impact resistant than a glass boat, and a bit less abrasion resistant. So let’s say you get side served really hard into a rock or even if your boat fills with water and gets thrown up onto the rocks that’s generally not gonna be a problem, but if you’re missing your timing on poor overs and really scraping the rock with your full body weight it’s unlikely that you’re going to get a puncture but it’s going to be pretty hard on the skin. One option is to bump up to a heavier skin. I was exclusively a coastal paddler for most of my life and I didn’t find the kayak limiting. Depends on the exact situation though I guess.
Hi Brian, nice footage and kayak as well. I wonder, how a SFO kayak is able to cope with rivers with some stony steps. A Polyester canoe will do it, as well as a better (no intex or something like that) inflatable kayak. Not wildwater, but the usual shallow areas with ground contact possible. Can you give an advise, please?
I’ve done a huge amount of inflatable kayaking in my life and nothing compares to the toughness of the Aire fabric and coatings, although I can’t speak for other brands or their budget models. As for skin on frame it really depends on the layup. My basic lightweight layup that you see here is unlikely to suffer any sort of a failure from even hard impacts with round edged rocks. It’s also normally OK with accidental strikes from sharper rocks but that sort of treatment adds up over time resulting in frequent re-skins. For situations where you’re going to be hitting a lot of rocks frequently do you want to bump up to a heavier skin. Typically I go with 12 ounce instead of 9 ounce and about 30% more coating which adds about 4 to 5 pounds to finished the boat. In that case I will usually make the stringers and the keel out of a slightly stronger wood as well.
If you want to see this in real life you could check out the video series that I’m currently posting on my Instagram @capefalconbuilds where we take the lightweight layup, overload some canoes and then take it on a week of rock bashing on a river trip. For the last post I plan to do a montage of everything we hit and the damage to the bottom. You can also check out the video here on my channel that is titled: skin on frame durability. The bottom line is that they aren’t indestructible but they’re a lot tougher than they look.
@@capefalconkayak Thanks, that helps a lot!
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Cool, I'm the first or #1. Very informative video! I'd like to build one! How do I get the plans and all of that?
Check out the capefalconkayaks.com website. You can buy plans there, a video course for building the F1, a kit of parts that otherwise might be a pain to source. I can't wait until I am able to build one, hopefully in 2022. Do check out the website. There are a lot of free course materials there as well....and no, I'm not a spokesperson for CFK, just very excited to have found such a quality kayak with outstanding builder resources!
CDW is right, lots of freely available info to help you decide if it's for you before you purchase plans and course. Best wishes.
@@DavidWing I've been on a Fakebook kayak group for 10 years and haven't built one yet due to trying to finish up building my home. I've seen many different designs but this one seams like the design that would work for me the best due to the length, stability and places where I'd be paddling. Thanks.
Mantap sekali kayaknya👍
I would love to build one. I am a heavier kayaker 225lbs, and would like to know what size/design would work for me.
All of my kayaks come in different sizes. This model has seven sizes from 100 to 250 pounds.
Amazing.... if only I could afford one.....
I can attest to Brian's claims on the F1. A paddling buddy has one, it is an exceptional kayak.
Brian, it has been so interesting to follow your journey over the years. Thank you for all the effort to share it with everyone.
What kind of skin do you use for your boats?
Qué lástima que no tenga activado los subtítulos. No comprendo bien el inglés. De todas formas, gracias por las imágenes. Too bad it doesn't have subtitles turned on. I don't understand English well. Anyway, thanks for the pictures.
Sorry, we don't control TH-cam's auto-captioning. I don't know why it hasn't been applied to this video.
@@capefalconkayak Thanks for answering ... Subtitles are very important to reach more people who do not speak that language or have hearing difficulties. Could you try uploading it again with the subtitles option turned on? It's my pleasure to follow you, but I don't understand English. Thank you very much for all your videos. A cordial greeting. (Helped with Google translate)
Appreciate your desire to learn, but unfortunately there is nothing we can do on our end. We upload all of our videos with the subtitle option enabled, but ultimately TH-cam controls which videos they render subtitles for.
@@capefalconkayak Ah... eso no lo sabía.
Por si sirve... De soporte de Google ...
"Solucionar problemas de los subtítulos automáticos
Si el vídeo no genera subtítulos automáticos, puede deberse a alguno de los siguientes motivos:
El audio del vídeo está tardando en procesarse debido a su complejidad.
Los subtítulos automáticos no están disponibles en el idioma del vídeo.
El vídeo es demasiado largo.
La calidad del sonido es mala o TH-cam no puede reconocer el habla.
Hay un largo periodo de silencio al principio del vídeo.
Los discursos de varias personas se superponen. "
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F1 looks cool, seating doesn't look very supportive for us older generation.
@@capefalconkayak Thanks I'll take a look at that video, F1 does look like the best option out there.
Pretty easy to change the seating, but the system I use is surprisingly comfortable. Sometimes people don't believe me and will spend big $$ on a custom seat, but they almost always end up going back to my setup. For more info on the outfitting check out my Skin on Frame Details video Part 2, and the Suspended Seat video. As a coastal paddler I was often in the saddle all day (and a few times all night) so comfort is essential.
The seat is super comfy. The foam isn't on a hard surface, it's on the kayak skin. And the boat design is terrific. I can go whatever direction I like no matter how windy. And light too. Love it.
I've found the seating approach very comfortable (I'm 60) and allows me to wriggle a bit on a longer trip to shift any pressure points - these happen more through whatever I'm wearing than from the boat. A ribbed foam mat has comfort as well as other practical advantages.
Its not too long but a lot of information and - thats the point: you talk like a waterfall, that strains +overloads (YTdesease). Take a braeth sometimes and give yor audience chance to let it sink... fleckber*/Vienna