There is one detail of Demi-Fiend that makes him very fitting for DDS, that being his name. In Japanese it is Hitoshura, Hito referencing human and Shura referencing Asura. The demon forms of the characters are Asuras.
can't believe i only just found this video, but thank you so much for posting it. im so starved for content about these games. DDS2 is actually the only megaten to ever make me cry. there's just nothing else quite like these ones
Im just putting it out there its crimes how this dosnt have like 500k views. Happy to see someone digging deeper into the forgotten cousin of P3 and SMT3, especally because at times DDS feels like the PS2 Megaten that has aged the best
I am forever cursed by the algorithm. It's actually one of the reasons I had to take a mental health break because making videos takes alot of time, and it feels like you don't really get anywhere. But I do like talking about this series because of it's depth so I make them anyway. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@@NobleAbsinthe they say "if you build it, they will come" and that.... seems true. Keep doing a thing that isnt a gameplay channel and people will find it eventually but... jees is the grind making 10/10s and like 6 people watching a grind. but ahh keep up the good work my friend. I got recommended from larger megaten channels so if i got sent here, a billion more will if you keep up the fight!
I’ve been waiting for someone to make THIS video for 4-5 years now (every year or so I check if someone does, and you actually did an outstanding job!) Its a shame this game is underrated and kinda forgotten. If this were to launch today, people would be nuts with the deep theme and interesting “religious” approach. Anyway, thanks so much for the quality of this video, This is like the 3rd time I’ve seen it in 2 days. Keep the good work! Hope to find more gems like this in your channel!
After playing through SMT 5 and watching this video, I'm craving another playthrough of these games. There's just something about the combat and story that make me keep coming back to it, despite how clunky some of the mechanics can be.
I love how you mention that the Maribel Base is so brown and boring. And it really is. I tried playing these games several times, but always stopped at some point during the Maribel Base. I was convinced the entire game was just going to be boring brown/grey bases. I finally forced myself through it, and I couldn't have been more wrong. Yes, the Maribel Base is boring, but every other dungeon after that is unique and cool and different and I absolutely love all of it.
I actually like the English version of Sera’s song better. Sera in English sounds more like a young woman trapped in the body of a young girl. In Japanese, she sounds like a young girl trapped in the body of a young woman. Idk exactly why I prefer the English voice, even though the Japanese voice may fit better.
Hell nah, I personally will never forget DDS, it got me into SMT to begin with, I got it as a gift somehow when I was too young to play it, and when every other game I got was either licenced games or popular or semi popular stuff bought on the supermarket, I legit don't know who even got me this game or how, but it legit made a huge impact as a teen. I'd do things for a remaster, that's for sure ahah
Thanks for the kind words! Share it around my new friend. The TH-cam algorithm only promotes videos when they're shared, and I'm a small fry compared to the juggernauts of Megaten-Tubers.
glad someone did a video like this on these digital monsters games. been looking around for videos on it since playing it on my ps2 back in the day, and needing some reference material for media on artificial characters. weird seeing the smt games coming back out but on the switch with ps3 strength hardware.
Downloading the atlus PS2 collection minus a few games I can get on other platforms as we speak this got me excited for thousands of hours of more RPGs to be playing
This game is really masterpiece. The story i though not will be that good until i play DDS2 and i made up my mind this game obviusly M A S T E R P I E C E.
Fun watch/listen, thanks a lot for the effort to deliver quality content :D. I actually didn't remember digital devil saga be so about "friendship" haha. This is one vid I'll put in the background while playing other stuff too
Atlus is missing out not porting these games over. they are the best blend of SMT and Persona. The fanbase they have now from both smt5 and p5 would probably really enjoy this. I'm about to play these games when my finals are over
Great video man! Good job, just one thing about the Devouring mechanic, I bet you noticed demons becoming frightened, that indicates that the hunt skills will deal extra damage and make it easier to gain Atma Points.
Great video! I know I'm 2 years late, but so many questions left unanswered in the games are answered in the novels: Quantum Devil Saga! As great as the novels are, they are incredibly inaccessible due to 3/5 of them being untranslated and getting your hands on physical copies will cost you an arm and a leg. It basically tells the same story, but with many minor details changed/explained. And it's super gay for some reason.
You did this game justice and thank you I never finished the second one and wanted to know wtf. And I loved the shit out of that series. Nocturne turned me on to it and now smt v has got me researching lore. And I saw this. Kudos.
@@NobleAbsinthe almost as bad as Bat giving himself another 4 turns iirc. I love the PS2 Gen of SMT games but they had a real hard on for giving some bosses ass pull's of turn counts
Loving this hopefully well see you tackle Devil summoner raidou kuzunoha one day consider how it's just as underrated as digital devil saga One of the aspect I love about DDS is the use of hindu mythology combine Matrix esque is some of the most fresh idea I've seen
If I can afford Raidou! It goes for $170-$250 online. And I read there's issues with PCSX2 running it with weird shadows and game crashes, but I can probably figure it out. I don't know how long the game is but I 100% want to check it out. I have Devil Summoner 2 and the blu-ray, but I think I need to check out the first game/anime for context. I do want to do anime reviews for a while because these games can be grindy, and I'm doing another run of P5, making saves at key points.
I am a huge fan of Atlus and all of their games/IP's. Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2 are some of the most underrated but no less phenomenal games in their catalog!
6:17 "TH-camrs who could care less about the game and are more focused on chasing chump-change for the algorithm" lmao I don't know everybody you scrolled through, but with names like Nam's Compendium and SuperButterBuns IDK how that lines up. (If this was more of a comedic tease I apologize, I'm just surprised you'd call them algorithm-chasers when SBB made a guide for introducing more people to DDS over 2 years ago XD)
1:24:41 Sera's body gets under a lot of stress when communing with God, to the point it forces rapid aging (think of Guts and Berserk armor, dude is like 25 at most and looks like he has 40 years). The fluid probably is the only thing keeping her from aging too fast, or maybe dulls the pain of feeling God's presence in your brain.
I know this is likely an incredibly small note in the overall video.. But regarding the English vs original Japanese singing starting after around the 11:11 mark.. It really isn't a completely fair comparison. The English dubbed version is an acapella, there's literally no instrumentation. It's only singing with some reverb at times. Then the Japanese version has some light paddy synths and soft keys playing in the background. And also has some reverb on the vocals. That being said, I do not personally feel that had the English version been given instrumentation, would I enjoy it as much as I do the Japanese version.. The assessment in the video was very accurate imo, it just sounds like random English words thrown/mashed together.. I think the reason why is multi-syllable words and often not rhyming. And this is coming from a person, for what it's worth, that very often prefers English dubs of things, a vast majority of the time. And often even things people complain and joke about "how bad/unbearable the English voice acting is", I don't mind. Now, I don't consider those performances favorites by any means, but I guess I'm just saying I both prefer as well as tolerate English dubbed voice acting in this kind of stuff, a lot more than the average person, it seems.. But even then, that song was just uncomfortable to sit through.. That's just my subjective opinion, though. What is objective and factual, however, is that it's kinda just an unfair comparison to make, as I said, since one is an acapella vs a version with instrumentation. It's kind of an apples and oranges comparison in that case. If this problem lies with the company for causing it to be that way? Sure, I guess, assuming it really is different between the versions in the way represented in the video.
DDS is some of the best Megaten has to offer. So when're you getting to the Last Bible series? ;p anyway, I kinda' assume the 'one word' is Shanti, meaning peace, given how important it is in the story.
whelp, guess im not going to bed yet... What do you think about all the tribes in the Junkyard representing different militant organizations? like Brutes are just National Military, Maribel are Post apocalyptic raiders or something... Vanguards represent Afghans... yeah, dunno if posting what the tribes seem to represent on youtube is a bright idea...
You're free to post whatever ideals you want. I mentioned how I wish we saw more of their culture. It's got hints of a new Vegas vibe with each tribe being their own culture. I'm not sure if the books go over them in detail. I didn't see the vanguard as afghans per se, but I'm more interested in what the solids were based on.
Great video. And regarding angel she would most likely be correct conisdering she goes by it and humans cant be true true hermaphrodites they are still male or female unless she is an actually true hermaphrodite
Trying to get my girlfriend into this, kind of laughed at the part where you said, "Shin Megami Tensei, or SMT for short. Or for some fans, MegaTen." Slight missed opportunity to have it, "Shin Megami Tensei, or MegaTen for short. SMT for shorter." Then run all the sounds together of each letter, "Smt. Or whatever." Then continue like the joke never happened.
As much as I like these games I don't like the attacks at judeo Christianity it's not the faith it's the men who ruined it over the years to make it to their advantage and the ones who mocks God. I believe in an expansive information on all sorts of topics but I just had to say that.
I don't see any attack on anything, I see free minded and artistic exploration of religious symbology, which I think is a overall good thing. Keep an open mind, it's not a big deal
Disagree, it was the first game I played (and many other people), and it got me hooked. It's agreed by many to be one of the best games to start with, I'd recommend DDS before Nocturne
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I tried to watch the “movies”, but somewhere around making the first ally, I realized there’s only one way to experience this story: Play the Game.
I played these games back when they first came out, still my favorite SMT games.
People honestly really need to talk more about DDS. It's my favorite megaten spin off. It's a crime that it doesn't get the love it deserves
I finished DDS2 today, and I think these games may just be my favourite game ever.
Yeah love these games, wish we got more, especially love the skill system, combat, and characters.
these games are among the best MT games out there, considering theyre western releases on the ps2, im really surprised that theyre not discussed more
There is one detail of Demi-Fiend that makes him very fitting for DDS, that being his name. In Japanese it is Hitoshura, Hito referencing human and Shura referencing Asura. The demon forms of the characters are Asuras.
These were actually my first SMT games that helped me get into main series. They need a collection HD remaster
Honestly seeing Bat getting vaporised is one of the most satisfying moments in the entire SMT.
I agree.
I’ve watched about 5 minutes so far and I can already tell this is going to be great!
Well hopefully you watched the whole thing and liked it!
And hey Nam! I've been meaning to reach out to you!
can't believe i only just found this video, but thank you so much for posting it. im so starved for content about these games. DDS2 is actually the only megaten to ever make me cry. there's just nothing else quite like these ones
I agree, wish DDS got more games with the same combat/skill system.
I don't know how you can experience the ending of Persona 3 and not bawl your eyes out.
Cant wait till dds gets a remaster
That's a day one buy if it ever happens, god I'd be excited.
That is a day one buy for me as well but who knows if Atlus will ever do that or even just ports to modern systems.
I loved your script and your voice fits perfectly. Nicely done!
Sera's singing is so bad it woke my cats up and freaked them out.
those Spoony references were spot on
Im just putting it out there
its crimes how this dosnt have like 500k views. Happy to see someone digging deeper into the forgotten cousin of P3 and SMT3, especally because at times DDS feels like the PS2 Megaten that has aged the best
I am forever cursed by the algorithm. It's actually one of the reasons I had to take a mental health break because making videos takes alot of time, and it feels like you don't really get anywhere. But I do like talking about this series because of it's depth so I make them anyway. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
@@NobleAbsinthe they say "if you build it, they will come" and that.... seems true. Keep doing a thing that isnt a gameplay channel and people will find it eventually but... jees is the grind making 10/10s and like 6 people watching a grind.
but ahh keep up the good work my friend. I got recommended from larger megaten channels so if i got sent here, a billion more will if you keep up the fight!
I’ve been waiting for someone to make THIS video for 4-5 years now (every year or so I check if someone does, and you actually did an outstanding job!) Its a shame this game is underrated and kinda forgotten. If this were to launch today, people would be nuts with the deep theme and interesting “religious” approach. Anyway, thanks so much for the quality of this video, This is like the 3rd time I’ve seen it in 2 days. Keep the good work! Hope to find more gems like this in your channel!
Thank you much for the kind words. I'll be adding more megaten content in the future. I was thinking of watching/reviewing persona trinity soul!
@@NobleAbsinthe well, count me in for the ride! Megaten DS would be also interesting to be seen in the future like Devil Survivor. Have a good one!
I am glad that more people are making videos about these games.
Still no word of a remaster. Hope we get SOMETHING on the 30th b-day of the franchise, eh.
Well looks like we are getting nothing for SMT 30th. I would love HD remasters of both DDS games(as one set) for PS4/5, Switch, PC, etc.
After playing through SMT 5 and watching this video, I'm craving another playthrough of these games. There's just something about the combat and story that make me keep coming back to it, despite how clunky some of the mechanics can be.
I love how you mention that the Maribel Base is so brown and boring.
And it really is. I tried playing these games several times, but always stopped at some point during the Maribel Base. I was convinced the entire game was just going to be boring brown/grey bases.
I finally forced myself through it, and I couldn't have been more wrong. Yes, the Maribel Base is boring, but every other dungeon after that is unique and cool and different and I absolutely love all of it.
I actually like the English version of Sera’s song better. Sera in English sounds more like a young woman trapped in the body of a young girl. In Japanese, she sounds like a young girl trapped in the body of a young woman. Idk exactly why I prefer the English voice, even though the Japanese voice may fit better.
Hell nah, I personally will never forget DDS, it got me into SMT to begin with, I got it as a gift somehow when I was too young to play it, and when every other game I got was either licenced games or popular or semi popular stuff bought on the supermarket, I legit don't know who even got me this game or how, but it legit made a huge impact as a teen. I'd do things for a remaster, that's for sure ahah
I can’t believe this video has less than 1k views… Awesome work! Excited to see your next one
Thanks for the kind words!
Share it around my new friend. The TH-cam algorithm only promotes videos when they're shared, and I'm a small fry compared to the juggernauts of Megaten-Tubers.
@@NobleAbsinthe personally anyone who talks about these games (and many other hidden gems) should get a lot more views.
I’ve been trying to find a video like this about Digital Devil Saga for ever now, thank you for finally making one
I have found several at this point.
glad someone did a video like this on these digital monsters games. been looking around for videos on it since playing it on my ps2 back in the day, and needing some reference material for media on artificial characters. weird seeing the smt games coming back out but on the switch with ps3 strength hardware.
You should be able to find several at this point.
Thank you for this video essay my good sir, I absolutely love any SMT content and this has scratched my itch! Much love my dude🖤🖤
Downloading the atlus PS2 collection minus a few games I can get on other platforms as we speak this got me excited for thousands of hours of more RPGs to be playing
This game is really masterpiece. The story i though not will be that good until i play DDS2 and i made up my mind this game obviusly M A S T E R P I E C E.
Not to mention the theme and the Gameplay, well the high counter is suck but the theme battle forgive the high counter
If it wasn't for the dumb karma grinding I would agree.
@@fluxthemagician7928 Also wtf was that ending with Sera and Sera?
@@tomo8940 wdym with sera and sera?
@@fluxthemagician7928 The ending in DDS2 when Sera/Serph meet up with another Sera/Serph in the void.
Anyone else keep Roland at the end instead of Heat?
I played through this game twice so I could do both.
Amazing game. DDS was my first entry to the SMT franchise. The Demi-fiend fight was legendary. The series deserve a remaster.
I still haven't beaten Demi-fiend.
Fun watch/listen, thanks a lot for the effort to deliver quality content :D. I actually didn't remember digital devil saga be so about "friendship" haha. This is one vid I'll put in the background while playing other stuff too
Atlus is missing out not porting these games over. they are the best blend of SMT and Persona. The fanbase they have now from both smt5 and p5 would probably really enjoy this. I'm about to play these games when my finals are over
Yeah, Atlus should do HD remasters or at least a port to all systems....but this is Atlus so who knows.
I would love an HD remaster of these games.
I like that it is a Megami Tensei game, not an SMT.
Nice to see some videos of this game, such an underrated gem.
Though you did get quite a few details wrong here and there.
Great video man! Good job, just one thing about the Devouring mechanic, I bet you noticed demons becoming frightened, that indicates that the hunt skills will deal extra damage and make it easier to gain Atma Points.
A great video and wonderful analysis, gonna have to play these games now. Thank you.
Really appreciate this, and you are correct nobody talks about this game.
There are more and more people talking about it in the last couple of years.
Great video! I know I'm 2 years late, but so many questions left unanswered in the games are answered in the novels: Quantum Devil Saga! As great as the novels are, they are incredibly inaccessible due to 3/5 of them being untranslated and getting your hands on physical copies will cost you an arm and a leg. It basically tells the same story, but with many minor details changed/explained. And it's super gay for some reason.
Atleast mementos was an inverse tower... So it did change alittle 😂😂😂
Good to know SMT apparently got some ideas from Digimon in return.
Not forgotten. Just people really starting to get into their games now. I remember when these games came out and not many people took interest.
Hopefully more and more people will find these games and get Atlus to finally give them some love.
You did this game justice and thank you I never finished the second one and wanted to know wtf. And I loved the shit out of that series. Nocturne turned me on to it and now smt v has got me researching lore. And I saw this. Kudos.
I love both DDS games, enjoyed Nocturne and both Raidou games, wish they would port SMT V to PS4(and other systems).
I'm so glad that i wasn't the only one that felt Vitriol for Ananta LMFAO
7 turns...What a greasy bastard.
@@NobleAbsinthe almost as bad as Bat giving himself another 4 turns iirc. I love the PS2 Gen of SMT games but they had a real hard on for giving some bosses ass pull's of turn counts
Better than orochi in samsara tunnel
@@fluxthemagician7928 yeah by the time I fought Ananta we was nothing but I do remember Orochi in the samsara tunnel.
Great video thanks for sharing!
Loving this hopefully well see you tackle Devil summoner raidou kuzunoha one day consider how it's just as underrated as digital devil saga
One of the aspect I love about DDS is the use of hindu mythology combine Matrix esque is some of the most fresh idea I've seen
If I can afford Raidou! It goes for $170-$250 online. And I read there's issues with PCSX2 running it with weird shadows and game crashes, but I can probably figure it out. I don't know how long the game is but I 100% want to check it out.
I have Devil Summoner 2 and the blu-ray, but I think I need to check out the first game/anime for context. I do want to do anime reviews for a while because these games can be grindy, and I'm doing another run of P5, making saves at key points.
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Try not runing it full screen will atleast help hopefully the price drop soon
Not as big on Raidou but those two games deserve HD remasters with some improvements.
I am a huge fan of Atlus and all of their games/IP's. Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2 are some of the most underrated but no less phenomenal games in their catalog!
Bro there was no need for a 7 minute discussion about other things when new people like me are showin up for this game! Nevertheless you got a sub!
6:17 "TH-camrs who could care less about the game and are more focused on chasing chump-change for the algorithm" lmao I don't know everybody you scrolled through, but with names like Nam's Compendium and SuperButterBuns IDK how that lines up. (If this was more of a comedic tease I apologize, I'm just surprised you'd call them algorithm-chasers when SBB made a guide for introducing more people to DDS over 2 years ago XD)
this deserves more views
1:24:41 Sera's body gets under a lot of stress when communing with God, to the point it forces rapid aging (think of Guts and Berserk armor, dude is like 25 at most and looks like he has 40 years). The fluid probably is the only thing keeping her from aging too fast, or maybe dulls the pain of feeling God's presence in your brain.
I'm shocked you managed to recap these stories without suffering from a random status effect every few seconds.
Correct title : The best Shin Megami Tensei
I agree.
Editor response for heroic sacrifice anime,
Akame ga kill
Mobile suit gundam iron blooded orphans,
Gurren lagann,
Outlaw star.
I know this is likely an incredibly small note in the overall video.. But regarding the English vs original Japanese singing starting after around the 11:11 mark..
It really isn't a completely fair comparison. The English dubbed version is an acapella, there's literally no instrumentation. It's only singing with some reverb at times.
Then the Japanese version has some light paddy synths and soft keys playing in the background. And also has some reverb on the vocals.
That being said, I do not personally feel that had the English version been given instrumentation, would I enjoy it as much as I do the Japanese version.. The assessment in the video was very accurate imo, it just sounds like random English words thrown/mashed together.. I think the reason why is multi-syllable words and often not rhyming.
And this is coming from a person, for what it's worth, that very often prefers English dubs of things, a vast majority of the time. And often even things people complain and joke about "how bad/unbearable the English voice acting is", I don't mind. Now, I don't consider those performances favorites by any means, but I guess I'm just saying I both prefer as well as tolerate English dubbed voice acting in this kind of stuff, a lot more than the average person, it seems.. But even then, that song was just uncomfortable to sit through..
That's just my subjective opinion, though. What is objective and factual, however, is that it's kinda just an unfair comparison to make, as I said, since one is an acapella vs a version with instrumentation. It's kind of an apples and oranges comparison in that case.
If this problem lies with the company for causing it to be that way? Sure, I guess, assuming it really is different between the versions in the way represented in the video.
DDS is some of the best Megaten has to offer. So when're you getting to the Last Bible series? ;p anyway, I kinda' assume the 'one word' is Shanti, meaning peace, given how important it is in the story.
whelp, guess im not going to bed yet...
What do you think about all the tribes in the Junkyard representing different militant organizations? like Brutes are just National Military, Maribel are Post apocalyptic raiders or something... Vanguards represent Afghans... yeah, dunno if posting what the tribes seem to represent on youtube is a bright idea...
You're free to post whatever ideals you want. I mentioned how I wish we saw more of their culture. It's got hints of a new Vegas vibe with each tribe being their own culture. I'm not sure if the books go over them in detail. I didn't see the vanguard as afghans per se, but I'm more interested in what the solids were based on.
I wanna play this now but uhh with a gameshark
I need these games to come to switch so I don’t have to buy a PS2!!
The secret word was:
Tintinnabulum
Great video. And regarding angel she would most likely be correct conisdering she goes by it and humans cant be true true hermaphrodites they are still male or female unless she is an actually true hermaphrodite
Trying to get my girlfriend into this, kind of laughed at the part where you said, "Shin Megami Tensei, or SMT for short. Or for some fans, MegaTen."
Slight missed opportunity to have it, "Shin Megami Tensei, or MegaTen for short. SMT for shorter." Then run all the sounds together of each letter, "Smt. Or whatever." Then continue like the joke never happened.
As much as I like these games I don't like the attacks at judeo Christianity it's not the faith it's the men who ruined it over the years to make it to their advantage and the ones who mocks God. I believe in an expansive information on all sorts of topics but I just had to say that.
A lot of Japanese games explore judeo Christian mythology because up until WWII Japan had no exposure to these ideas. It's still fresh to them
I don't see any attack on anything, I see free minded and artistic exploration of religious symbology, which I think is a overall good thing. Keep an open mind, it's not a big deal
I'd recommend people play these games only after playing every other Megami Tensei game on PS2 & 3DS. DDS is good...but not THAT good.
Disagree, it was the first game I played (and many other people), and it got me hooked. It's agreed by many to be one of the best games to start with, I'd recommend DDS before Nocturne
@@musicfriendly12 I agree, I enjoy Nocturne, but love the two DDS games.
1:19:13 lvl 13 Gale? Oof that's rough. Mutual Karma is 100% necessary