The worst call in MLB history is the not-even-close play at first base which cost Detroit Tigers pitcher Armando Galarraga a perfect game in June 2010.
@@ericwilliams398 I immediately thought the same thing when I saw the clip title. The perfect game call was like stealing a guy's winning lotto ticket.
+metropod Well, it's all about context. Think about the rule they they're trying to enforce here. It's an interpretation that, in a sense, completely changes the game for lack of a better word. What Jim Joyce did was simply miss a call. Just botched it. Nothing 'changed' per se. Yes, it was awful, but just shows that umpires aren't perfect. This was looked at for a VERY LONG time in New York and they STILL came up with that call? INSANE.
+Fleagle the Command center crew relies on the footage from the TV cameras and admittedly, the catcher's foot was blocking the plate before he caught the ball. Joyce was standing feet from the bag when he screwed up, and anyone with the gift of sight could tell that was an out.
John Smith The rule also says you can't block the plate when you don't have the ball, but when you're playing the ball you can. He starts with the plate completely open and only steps into the path when he's playing the ball
that ,my brother ,is a FACT ,im a yank fan so the call didnt effect my season BUT it effec ted me to the extent that if ,like you just did ,lol,mentions ANY error being bad or missed ,etc that is and will be FOREVER # 1,even ryte NOW my adrenaline is pumpin so high feel like snapping the keyboard ,lolol
im not sure of the teams larry BUT it was a perfect game ,no one was on base ,im talking about the game when the ump who called the runner safe appolized in tears ,like the next da y ,and i do kbow it was detroit as miggy caught the throw that was an out
The rule is, The catcher can not block the plate PRIOR to recieving the ball. The catcher doesnt have the ball and is in front of the plate which is why the call was made. If he impedes the runner then the runner is safe. It is a horrible rule that has since been recognized, and now umpires do a better job at analyzing the situation as it unfolds
samiswhoa have you ever played baseball??? do you know your arms only have a limited reach and if you want to catch the ball you have to move in front of it!!! human being arent really like the rubber guy in the fantastic four. you see the catcher looking down at the plate to know where he is (5:45) the as the ball approaches he moves towards the ball to catch it.
***** The runner is not required to slide the catcher is required to tag the runner on a non force out, the controversy stems from the new rule that the catcher must provide a lane for the runner to touch the plate if the catcher doesn't have possession of the ball. I do not like the rule and think the interpretation of it is fuzzy at best. but no where at any base is a runner ever required to slide that is not a rule.
Mar218100 No the runner is not required to slide however in certain cases such as a double play if the runner gets hit with the ball coming from second to first, if the runner at first would have been out it is declared a runner interference.
But he's right tho in everything he said. It's the Marlins network he's a fan and he works for the organization so he has the right to be pissed off. As a baseball lover if you weren't pissed off after watching this video you don't respect the game enough lol
omg... I wanted to bitch slap the announcer... that was a god call... I'm not for either team... it was a good call... clearly the catcher was blocking the path
Yep, I agree. Rewarded by umping National League games afterwards.I guess because of the backlash. One of the worst umps I've ever seen.Jerry Meals is another bad one.
There's 2 kinds of sports people. 1) - Book people who believe 1 sentence can cover eeeeeevery possibilty. 2) - Common sense people who use their eyes and multiple factors before deciding. You want to know what's wrong with sports in general these days? ... Every player in every sport trying to become an Oscar nominee by exploiting the rule book and over-officiating to get a call from the ref and/or ump. I will hand it to baseball (and even hockey) however, their umps don't mess up perfectly good games like the refs of the NBA & NFL. Almost every NBA & NFL game is decided by calls. If you're a nerdy calculator loving geek .... you probably think he's safe, cause afterall, a rules a rule right? If you're a human being ... dude was out by 10 feet and just the fact that he pulled up like a chump and immediatly started acting like a child who was told it's time for bed .... you think he's out. IMO
You are right about everything. This guy is out. Aside from not being a fan of this new rule, the fact of the matter is that he moved towards the runner to get the ball. The throw took him in that direction. But he wasn't blocking the plate anyway.
That's stupid too, the rule should be, " if the runner plows into the catcher then the runner is out" that's it. Because all they want to Do is stop collisions. Its their option weather to slide or just give themselves up.
Mar218100 whether its been tweaked or not they would still look to see if he was blocking. but yes. its a more chasing the throw friendly version this year which should theoretically stop arguments. "theoretically"
Eric Alexander luckily I never have to listen to him, but I've heard from others how bad he is as well as hearing him in some highlight clips. Just terrible.
It was a terrible call, and I hope I can offer an explanation that defends Jim Joyce (the best ump, voted by mlb player). Umpires are taught to close their eyes on bang-bang plays at first and listen to the glove catch the ball and the foot hit the bag. This is because on plays that close, your eyes will decieve you and create indecisiveness in your brain, which is the last thing an umpire needs. What happened was, it was a soft throw and it was hard to hear the catch, so when Joyce heard Gallaraga's foot stomp down on the bag in excitement of throwing a perfect game, he thought it was the runners foot and called him safe because he never heard the ball hit the glove. Even though he was out by a lot, it was too close for Joyce to realize his mistake and change the call directly after (which is allowed). It really sucks, hopefully at least you can understand why and have some sympathy for the umpire.
GingerJesus28 If I can slightly teak your explanation: Umpires are taught to watch the foot and listen to the ball in the glove, not close your eyes. I'm a huge fan of Joyce (best strike calls in the game IMO) but in that situation unless the runner was clearly safe, he should have called him out. You can even tell by the runners reaction that he knew he was out. But when he apologized that is one of the most ballsy moves I have ever seen. Heck the guy couldn't walk to his mailbox without a police escort from all the death threats
GingerJesus28 ... '' . . . Umpires are taught to close their eyes on bang-bang plays at first and listen to the glove catch the ball and the foot hit the bag . . . ''. Hello ??? !!! ~~~ '' ... taught to close their eyes ... '' ... Are You Nuts ??? !!! ... Please do not be one of those '' Functional Illiterates '' ... [ These Folks are apart of the General Population that Doesn't KNOW what's Happening, AND it Doesn't even Know that it Doesn't KNOW !!! ] ... They do Exist, And to Prove my Point : THEY VOTED FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA ... Enough Said !!! ...
With the catcher where he was, the runner had three choices: 1 Slide and be blocked (a side would've potentially injured the runner too) 2 plow over the catcher to open up the way to the base (now illegal) or 3 make a case to the umpire that the catcher was in the way The runner did the right thing according to the newest rules. The catcher could have moved toward right field a step or two to open up the lane and make the tag with ease.
TheSubmissionChannel well its a made up name that the announcers came up with and also, he did win the challenge, but thats very shallow for a mlb player to do that.
They made the correct call. The announcers are clueless. They even read it the rule that explains why he should be safe, and then acted all surprised when he was.
EET FUK yeah like wtf how was he safe he got tagged the catcher moved legally he was not blocking home plate and plus the runner never touched home plate
I guess im just going to haft to go be an umpire and say when i see that call "well there was this gaming in 2014 that this happened and they called him safe without touching home plate." and then eject the coach when he tells me that its bullshit
I honestly hate this fuck!ng rule it just messes up the sport! Cosart barely gave effort to slide. Mathis barley blocked the plate. At that moment I would love to be Redmond. 😡😡😬😬 even if your a reds fan you can admit it was an out and credit to Stanton. One of the reasons the Marlins don't have the luck they deserve. I hope this doesn't happen. Screw that rule!! If they remove it, life would be better. Anybody agree??
That doesn't matter- he's safe due to Catcher Interference. (I think it's a bad call myself) If it's interference, whether he touched the plate doesn't matter)
It does matter, he at least has to make an attempt... if he collides with the catcher then still does not touch the plate then your point would be valid... but that is not what happen
That's not true. If the runner is obstructed by the fielder, the runner doesn't even have to make an attempt, the runner is protected. It's very important to understand the rules of MLB and the consequences of breaking the rules. Also, the runner must "Slide or Avoide Collision" they're not permitted to Pete Rose themselves into the Catcher like they used to be able to do.
New rule on home-plate collisions put into effect 7.13, intended to increase player safety by eliminating "egregious" collisions at home plate was jointly announced by Major League Baseball and the Major League Baseball Players Association on Monday. 7.13.b.The catcher may not block the pathway of a runner attempting to score *unless* he has possession of the ball. c. Runners are not required to slide, and catchers in possession of the ball are allowed to block the plate. However, runners who do slide and catchers who provide the runner with a lane will never be found in violation of the rule.
Lol . “This call will change the game of baseball forever”.... 2018 and this call has long been forgotten. And, absolutely NOTHING has changed. Relax announcer guy
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Cold Snap if that were true you would see it being exploited, I think this was a bad call but it didn’t mess up the game. The only part is do you truat Joe Torre saying the catcher is allowed to move? he looks so much mafia that I gotta admit it’s hard 😆
One final thought, the ball takes the catcher into the pathway of the runner, what is he supposed to do? Not move, not catch the ball, and let 2 runs score? In addition, the runner was out by a mile, it wasn't even close.
Bear Udyr He is allowed to catch it in the line if he has too BUT if he could have caught it out of the way then he is at fault. This is an instance where it looks like he should be able to step up and field the ball without blocking the plate. That is what the ump saw. Right call.
+juan quiroz Learn the rules. Pause it at 1:25. The catcher's left leg is in the basepath and the ball is nowhere near him. That's interference. The catcher cannot move into the basepath until he has the ball. Not 1 second before. Not 1/10th of a second before.
If the runner cared about the rules, he would have avoided contact by sliding. He is a hypocrite for not doing so and then complaining the catcher was blocking the plate.
It is a bad rule but why are they so upset about him not sliding? He obviously knew he was going to be out so why potentially injure himself or the catcher when the rule says you are not supposed to run into the catcher and the catcher should stay out of the way?
The rules say nothing about sliding into the catcher. As long as you are obviously attempting to get to the plate, you can do more or less whatever you want.
I believe the runner ran around him to try to convince the umpire that the catcher was blocking the plate and that he should be safe. If he slid, it would look like he wasn't blocking the plate, and since the throw would have been a lot earlier than the slide, he would've easily been out.
***** Again, there is NO rule that you must slide. If you're going to spam this page with garbage and lies you're going to hear from me on every post. I repeat, there is NO rule that says you must slide...EVER!! Go read the rules.
Dude. There may not be a rule saying you have to slide. But anybody who has ever played baseball at any level knows that's how you play the game. He knew exactly what he was doing, I mean he practically through his arms up before Mathis even tagged him. I'm not gonna jump on the umpires for making a bad call. It's a new rule , calls like this happen but if you are gonna play baseball play it how it's supposed to be played.
I honestly think this whole "replay" thing shouldn't be used for everything. Cozart is out. Man I wish MLB would bring back the collision rule. So dumb how you can't knock into the catcher. I think this replay thing should just be used for calling home runs and tagging players.
The most amount if challenges there can be is 4, and I don't event think that has ever happened. Therefore, the challenges are useful and they aren't used that often.
Kim Cafran-Lilien Does it maintain the purity of the game if the Buster Posey, Mauer, or any other catcher that hits well is moved to another base because teams are afraid of them getting injured? Posey already had a broken leg from a collision before the rule came in effect. I mean, I think if we have coaches refusing to send runners because they're afraid a catcher might block the plate dangerously well and if we have teams not putting the best catchers at catcher, that's a pretty big hit to the integrity of the game. We've already diluted the regular season down quite a bit, to the point that fans of good teams pretty much figure, "Oh well, it's just April" when their team loses early on. Honestly, if I was managing a team with a superstar catcher and the collision rules were eliminated right now, I'd tell him not to block the plate off. It's April. Why lose him for the rest of the year just to get an extra out at the plate here and there?
The dude wasn't anywhere close yet, so, when he did get close, guess what? The catcher had possession of the ball. By the way, I'm not a Marlins or reds fans, go Astros!(even though they lose every season 😔)
Matthew Hermes Is there going to be a rule of about how close the runner has to be in feet or seconds before you can be in the base/plate line without possession of the ball? (Even this would not be legit since some players are extremely faster than other players. When are you going to rule it OK or not?) My points are VERY clear... He WAS in the base/plate line BEFORE he had possession of the ball. He WAS FULLY capable of retrieving the ball OUTSIDE of the base line as well. (He had plenty of time to move outside the base/plate line to make the play on the ball WITHOUT being within the base/plate line.) He waited WITHIN the base/plate line for the ball to come to him. Which was NOT necessary to make the play. So, I agree with NY... Make the plays OUTSIDE of the base/plate line and then come WITHIN ONLY with possession of the ball. Then there is NOTHING to argue about. With the new rules catchers are going to have to be more proactive and not lazy waiting on the ball within the base/plate line. It's that simple... :-) P.S. The rule is there to protect the catcher as much as the runner. So they will have to adapt to the new rules and learn to make plays outside of the base/plate line UNTIL they have possession of the ball. Again, I agree with NY. They made the right call. If the runner was only a second or two earlier. The runner would have had no choice but to run into the catcher. (So, he was putting himself and the runner at risk.) If you watch closely. The catcher makes 2 steps from the plate to be in a better position to retrieve the ball. He was FULLY capable of taking 2 more steps infield or outside of the field to be OUTSIDE of the base/plate line to get possession of the ball. He FAILED to do so. So, again, that's why I agree with NY... On another note. The worst call in MLB was when the referee took away that guys Perfect Game at first base. (The guy was out by a mile.) This is no where near the worst call in MLB.
Matthew Hermes No matter where the guy is he can't block the plate until after getting the ball, the issue is that he could have fielded the ball out of the way before moving into it but didn't so he violated the rule.
I am an umpire myself and he should be out. I don't however blame the umpires on the field. In fact they called him out! It was the umpires reviewing the play in New York that called it safe. The umps of the field had to go with that decision. So to the Marlins coach, you have the right to be be pissed off, just not at those umps on the field.
+LowkeyXTiger never read the rule book but I think obstruction automatically awards you the base you were going to even if you never touched it. But im not sure
I don't like either team, but that's an awful call. Blocking the plate or not, with the ball beating cozart to the plate by that much, it shouldn't even be a discussion to whether he's out or not. He could be out by 80 feet, but if you think the catcher was in front of the plate and blocking it, what are you gonna do, call him safe? This game has been around for 150 years. Stop changing it.
That has to be one of the best analogies I've read, hands down. Call on the diamond should not have been reversed for the simple fact that the runner would have been out no matter what, and it looks like (in my opinion) that the runner had a lane to the plate anyways. Bad call. Coming from a Jays fan
Jett Lennox Like i said in a post above, i don't like this rule either but it was the right call by the rule. The moment he stepped over the 3rd base line without the ball he was in violation of that rule. And saying he would be out no matter what is stupid because if it was still legal to run over the catcher, i'm sure he would have and possibly knocked the ball loose.
Okay yeah I see what you're saying. All I'm saying that if the catcher gave him the lane to the plate according to the rule, he would've had plenty of time to tag him, I just don't agree with the call. It's kind of like that interference call against the cardinals in the World Series two years ago. The ump projected that he would've been safe...here he could've projected him out. But I see what you're saying. Dumb rule no matter what haha
The reason this is the right call is because he purposefully moved into the path of the baseline when he squared up. he could have caught it out of the baseline just fine. He moved into the path and didn't give Cozart any of the plate. These announcers are so biased. He had to go that way to get the ball but not into that path of the baseline. Safe! Right call whether they like it or not.
Rex Iustus but its a new rule so you're wrong. he blocked the plate before he went to get the throw. new rule states that that is not allowed. old rules you're right. new rules not so much. he couldn't slide because there was nothing to slide into cuz the catcher was blocking it. by no means it it right. but it was the correct call
***** Actually -- and factually -- you are wrong. The catcher is ALLOWED to go into the baseline to catch the ball. AKA the catcher can go into the baseline if the throw takes him into the baseline. The throw took him up the line -- AND he was still out by 10 feet -- he's out. You are factually wrong Andrew.
Ryan Keough FACTUALLY SPEAKING.....he was blocking the plate before he got the ball. the throw did not take him into the line. he was already blocking the plate before he went into the baseline even more for the throw. FACTUALLY SPEAKING he is safe. The marlins radio is basing on him not sliding and that he did should be out. that wheat everyone else is saying too. he doesnt have to slide if the plate is blocked and guess what it was. you are wrong... this call was right.
Brayden Bernhardt Welcome to the pussified present that we live in, where being passionate about the game “should get you fired”. What the hell is wrong with you? “Mad because he never made it to the majors” yeah, and I bet you’re mad that you never made it out of high school, you dumbass. Go back to the drive-thru window at McDonalds.
what do you mean? if the catcher wasn't blockingz then he's out. if he wasz which is what the umpires decided, then it's illegal and the runner is safe
+SecondKyle i was thinking the same thing but the rule says that if the catcher is blocking the path the runner automatically gets the base, the dispute is not weather its safe or out its about the carcher blocking home plate which leads to if the rule applyes or not
Rindge Leaphart No, he wasn't blocking the plate though, they explained that in the video. It was a clean call and Cozart never touched home plate anyway so he was out anyway.
+SecondKyle of course, i agree he was not blocking home plate it shoud have been an out, but what happened is that becuase the humpires decided that he was blocking home plate the runner doesnt need to touch the base he just gets it thats why he scored wihout touching the base, its really simple to understand really
+Jeff Brown I'm not saying this is the way it is, but it seems to me the final responsibility for the call should be with the head ump on the field, not some committee back in NYC. So a team can ask for a call to be reviewed, and NYC can give their opinion to the ump on the field, but the ultimate decision should belong to the ump. If committees of umps in NYC are making calls on the field, then there is way more effed up with MLB than just this call.
dLimboStick I agree but there is no way he's not going with what the replay officials in New York say. It would probably be his last game to ever umpire in the majors if he did that.
dLimboStick Lol. So true! I honestly believe this, "bad call," is more of a bad rule of baseball, that stems from the Buster Posey injury and subsequent overreaction. Just like awful NFL rules that define whether certain plays are actual catches or not (think of the Megatron and Dez Bryant nullifications, etc.). Certain bad rules need to be changed and the refs and umps might not look so incompetent.
But then you wouldn't get to hear the announcers make idiots of themselves. It wasn't the wrong call. They even put the graphic up and highlighted it. The catcher was blocking the plate without the ball. Pretty clear. If he wants to rant, he should do so about the rule. Not the call. The call was made correctly by rule
Yes, I agree on the Jim Joyce blown call being the worst in history. I also believe Joyce owning up to it, and Gallaraga bringing out the line up card to Joyce the very next day, who was the home plate umpire that game, were the greatest examples of sportsmanship in history.
Id' PAY to see CHARLIE HUSTLE DO THAT AGAIN. He's done it before. Pete Rose was one the most passionate ball players I ever saw and TOUGH AS NAILS. You just would not want to be on his bad side. I've done trade show circuits with him as a guest autographer and hes as tough as they come!
Not the worst call ever. Pirates vs Braves, July 26, 2011. A 19 inning game, over 6 hours long, ended by a horrible and obvious blown call by the home plate umpire. The impact the game had on the rest of the Pirates season was even worse. That game depleted their bullpen and sent the team into a downward spiral that took them out of 1st place in their division and ended with them narrowly missing the playoffs. I'm still mad about that call to this day.
+TheNotoriousJMC Maybe you should try umpiring a few thousand baseball games and you could appreciate just how hard it is to get every single call right.
No doubt! Exactly right! And for people to say ump a few games, I have umped a bunch and yes mistakes happen but he didn't ask for help when he was blocked from seeing it. His job is to get it right!
You call that padding armor? How dense are you? Those pads only reduce impact from a foul tip, they are utterly worthless when a full grown man hits you running full speed. They are not football pads. You want to see people tackling each other, stick to football.
I remember watching this game live on TV with my dad when I was young and us both freaking out about how horrible this call was. We aren't even fans of either team, we were just killing an afternoon watching a ballgame.
+11laxmonkey Should we also bring back throwing at guys' heads after home runs? Get rid of the punishments for PED use? Bring back the fixing of games? The games change with the times in different ways. Teams don't want to lose their players for months or an entire season or permanently because fans like to see them get wiped out at the plate. When you're paying someone 10-20 mil a year to play and they lose their season to an injury, it's time to make a new rule. Besides, teams regularly do things like this; they notice a pitcher is using an illegal substance on the ball but don't tell the umpires until it's beneficial for the opposing pitcher to be tossed. Rules are worked all the time, but people want to complain about "muh baseball rules."
It didn't really add anything from to the game. You supposed to beat the ball to the plate, not try to knock a guy out so he drops the ball. Never really was a baseball play, since baseball is about beating the ball to the plate/avoiding the tag skillfully. Plus we had 2 catchers die in Canada one seasons, so they took it out of the game here years ago and it honestly made plays at the plate more exciting. Players had to start using skill to avoid a tag, and I've seen a lot of nice plays because of it.
I'll still say the worst call was in a 1998 game between the Yankees and Orioles at The Stadium. Yankees were up by 1 in the 9th but Orioles got first two batters on. Next batter tried to bunt them over but bunted right back to Rivera on the mound, who threw to get the lead runner at third. Brosius at 3B CLEARLY closed his glove too soon and the ball bounced OFF his glove... and the 3B ump, standing BEHIND Brosius, called the runner OUT. Then he ejected every single person on the Orioles who argued, and refused to check with the crew chief who was working 1B and had a better view. He makes the right call, Orioles have bases loaded and the tying run at third with no out. Instead it's now 1st and 2nd with one out... and the next batter grounds into a double play to end the game. Absolutely horrible.
in my dad's slow pitch league they just draw a line at home plate and if the ball gets to the plate before you passed the line you're out. No more collisions. is the MLB going to turn into that? please no
Almost as bad as the infamous “infield fly” call against the Braves in the playoffs when the ball was caught clearly in left field, not the infield. Cost the Braves the game
Here's the infield fly rule. An Infield Fly is a fair fly ball (not a line drive or bunt) that, in the judgment of the umpire, can be caught by an infielder, pitcher, or catcher with ordinary effort and when there are runners on first and second or first, second, and third and less than two outs. Notice it doesn't say 'caught in the infield', it says 'caught by an infielder.' They call it on balls in the shallow outfield all the time.
John Bishop. Wrong answer. The infield fly call was 100% the correct call. Show us where the rule says the ball must be caught in the infield. You should learn the rules before commenting. The play did not cost the Braves the game either.
Was it "ordinary" that an infielder was playing that deep into the outfield? Sounds like you're a Cardinals fan, my dude. That doesn't seem "ordinary" to me.
When I started going to baseball games they averaged < 2 H 30M This decision seemed to take that long....................Now instead of watching baseball I watch my aquarium. More happens and it happens faster.
I watched it several times and the catcher was clearly in the lane before the ball arrived. I'm no expert on these changing rules but if the rule is that he can't block the lane before the ball arrives then he violated it, which is why the runner blew off the slide.
The catcher had ball way before runner was even near! He was out by a mile! It’s a horseshit call and even a bigger pile for the rules to be changed to some imaginary line! The dude has the fuckin ball in his glove and has time to dig his asshole out, sniff his fingers and then tag the below average, nobody runner! New York blew that call and need to have common sense to making calls.
How’s he gonna slide with the catcher there lol? That’s feet first into the mans chest there. Catcher was in the way. Sorry about it but there’s many ways to make that play differently
It's not even about sliding. He didn't even touch the plate. Announcers can't make calls in the first place so I don't see how it affects any part of the game. This call was stupid. Period.
Mashy Potatoey Explain how the catch has possession of the ball before he stepped into the path of the runner. The catcher is in the wrong, the runner is in the right.
Get rid of the blocking rule. Install airbags on the catcher (and quarterbacks too) so when they take a knock, the airbags deploy! Yes, Shark Tank, I'll take your offer...lol
he is awarded the base the umps give him, he dont have to touch them on that type of call, and i think the call was fine, the catcher set up in the lane, if the runner was full bore he could have made a play for the plate, but it being obstructed does not mean he must be a poor sport and try to slide and could hurt the catcher seriously. the ump determined that the runner had a chance from 3rd, it is not determined at the play itself or the umps would of called it out like original, umps do not like to change their call it makes them look like a bad call ump, so changing the call like that had to be the right call, which it was. catcher was blocking the line while the runner was half way or more, and continued all the way to the play. either way for me would be a 50/50 call according to the rules, myself, i like the old way best, baseball is supposed to be a little physical. anyway, i have seen hundreds and hundreds of calls much worse then this one.
i did watch and he was tagged, and even if he wasn't tagged he was well out of the baseline that would be an automatic out tagged or not. 3 feet is not much to work with, that is one reason they came up with the lane blocking rule. my opinion it should go back to old ways but that is only an opinion, i am not the ones that makes the rules of the game, and even if he wasnt out of the baseline like i said, i wasn't there watching as the ump saw it, so we just have to give them some margine to the umps, and there job is tough, so like i also said, plenty of other calls out there that top this one 100 fold.
It sure looks to me like the tag missed but I agree they should go back to the old way, if the catcher is dumb enough to block the lane then they deserve to be trucked.
+Max Tovella If the catcher is illegally (that is, without having the ball in his possession) blocking the plate then the runner is called safe automatically.
+counterstriving You are not "blocking" the plate until the runner is in the immediate area. By the time the runner got to the immediate area the catcher had already received the ball in plenty of time. What the hell was the catcher supposed to do? If this is the way baseball is going to be ruled then the catcher would have no choice but to just get out of the way and let the runner score. This was in 2014..... has there been clarification since then?
+Max Tovella >>>>> He didn't even touch home............... True, but once he gives up on the play and goes to the dugout he is out. I'm not even sure the tag was ever made for that matter. Totally horrible call.
+ptrinch Oh, come on. That is so stupid. The Reds have finished 10 or more games under .500 each of the last two years. They lost almost 100 last year. They haven't won a playoff series in two decades. The Reds do NOT pay officials to get calls.
Horrible call. The catcher was in no way blocking the runner before possession. How can you block a runner who is 5 steps away? He did not change his pace or stride until well after the catcher had the ball, and he whined his way past the plate. The runners path was not obstructed until the catcher had the ball. Given the way this was called, now if a runner is still on third and a catcher crosses the baseline to catch a throw from the outfielder, he should get a free run because his "pathway was blocked". It was a ridiculous call, and that doesn't even take the fact he was moving to catch the ball.
You can block a runner 5 steps away the same way if he is 1 step away, by standing in his pathway. It's a poorly written rule. It should say that the catcher can't impede the runner.
Smash Er - Dead on. The catcher HAD TO MOVE into the path of the runner to catch the thrown ball. Then, once he caught the ball, the runner was dead, not even close to home plate, so how in the hell was he ever "obstructed"? Answer: He wasn't. He was out and he knew it, just like everybody else in the ball park knew it. Those guys in New York making these judgments are so clueless, they've made a farce of replay review in MLB. They're fucking up the game.
Oh, what a sucker I am for headlines! 1) Not the worst call by far, in baseball. 2) The announcer is a loud mouth. Calm down and watch the replay. 3) Runner was SAFE in my opinion. And I agree with New York. Catcher set up across the base path blocking it, independent of the throw. The runner was two strides away, a nanosecond from home plate, and the catcher still did not have possession of the ball. The catcher did not have to move into the base path to catch it. In the old days, the runner would have simply knocked the catcher over resulting in possible serious injury. The new rule was brought in to stop that. Parents who coach Little League are quite familiar with the rule. The announcer seems to display ignorance of the new rule.
Mulchinock: "Catcher set up across the base path blocking it, independent of the throw." - WRONG on count #1 "The runner was two strides away, a nanosecond from home plate, and the catcher still did not have possession of the ball." - WRONG on count #2 "The catcher did not have to move into the base path to catch it". - And WRONG on count #3 Try again idiot.
The announcers are full of it - the catcher moved into the basepath UNNECESSARILY AND WITHOUT THE BALL. He could've caught the same throw from RF if he was inside the foul line. By the rule, the runner is safe and by intelligence the announcers are stupid homers (mainly the color guy)
+Twymanator i blame that little girl catcher Parker Posey for ruining the catcher's game in baseball. Boo hoo, I broke my leg at work and have the best healthcare on the planet not to mention I make millions of dollars playing a game. Sheesh.
so he should have caught the ball staying on the 1B side of the plate so he could make it more difficult for him to make the tag?....still think its the catchers job to tag out runners....
It was a shitty call, but they Royals would have won that game anyway. The Cards hit, like, .157 in that series. 33 years later and they're still butthurt in St. Louis. The 7th game was hilarious.
Does every fan hate the new rule? Yes. But under the new rule, the catcher should have moved forward and to his left to get that ball and then turn around and make the tag... every other catcher in MLB does that now, so why would this guy be exempt? He only went to his left and blocked the plate before he even had the ball. Don't get me wrong, the new rule sucks for fans, I hope they get rid of it.. they wont, but it would be great if they did. But the ''guys in New York'' that reviewed the play got it right.
Hi I'd just like to add something. Jeff Mathis (the catcher) did the right thing. As a catcher, it is extremely hard to play the ball on a short-hop which he would've had to do if he stepped forward like you said he should be done.
but the catcher had to move in the runners line to catch the ball. Can you need hear or see? It was clearly stated that the catcher can impeed the runners line IF he has the ball OR he is going to get the ball. Both criteria had been satisfied before the runner was withing a 5 foot radius of the catcher. So how is the catcher wrong? he followed the rule perfectly. and you can even see that before the ball was thrown he had no intention of blocking the plate. he was standing on. the runner would've had plenty of room to get there had the throw been correct.
The rule should be simple, not all this technical stuff that's ruining the process of the game, the rule should have been, no colliding into the catcher if you do, then you are out. That's how it should be just short and simple.
Will Federowic he did not have to move onto the line to make the catch! He could have moved up and to the left but before the ball got there he moved onto the line to make the catch! A lot of catchers in the league have made the same play but pulled up in front of the line and tagged the runner with a sweeping motion! He had plenty of time before the ball got there to position his self for the catch without impeding the runner.
As a former umpire...that is just .f..cking disgusting to watch!! MLB (and most sports, esp the NFL) keep finding more ways to ruin the game......and are becoming just about unwatchable!!
The worst call in MLB history is the not-even-close play at first base which cost Detroit Tigers pitcher Armando Galarraga a perfect game in June 2010.
Or the cardinals Atlanta infield fly rule
I’d say the blown perfect game was a little worse tho
Agree
Agreed
@@ericwilliams398 I immediately thought the same thing when I saw the clip title. The perfect game call was like stealing a guy's winning lotto ticket.
I don't know, I still think Jim Joyce's screw up on Armando Galarraga perfect game was worse.
+metropod true dat.
Yea that call was terrible, but imagine they review the play and still fuck it up, then you feel like fuck baseball... I fucking hate replay
Easy
+metropod Well, it's all about context. Think about the rule they they're trying to enforce here. It's an interpretation that, in a sense, completely changes the game for lack of a better word. What Jim Joyce did was simply miss a call. Just botched it. Nothing 'changed' per se. Yes, it was awful, but just shows that umpires aren't perfect. This was looked at for a VERY LONG time in New York and they STILL came up with that call? INSANE.
+Fleagle the Command center crew relies on the footage from the TV cameras and admittedly, the catcher's foot was blocking the plate before he caught the ball. Joyce was standing feet from the bag when he screwed up, and anyone with the gift of sight could tell that was an out.
In my day you had to touch home plate to score a run . . .
The rule assumes the runner was unable to touch the plate
John Smith The rule also says you can't block the plate when you don't have the ball, but when you're playing the ball you can. He starts with the plate completely open and only steps into the path when he's playing the ball
Captain_Pudding Yes, I know that. I don't agree with the call. I was just telling you why the plate didn't need to be touched for a run to be awarded
John Smith Agreed
haha
Worst call in baseball goes to Jim Joyce calling a guy safe with 2 outs in the ninth costing Armando Gallaraga a perfect game when he was clearly out.
I agree
He ruined a shutout not a perfect game. A perfect game is when you face 27 batters and no one reaches base. The bases were loaded on that play.
that ,my brother ,is a FACT ,im a yank fan so the call didnt effect my season BUT it effec ted me to the extent that if ,like you just did ,lol,mentions ANY error being bad or missed ,etc that is and will be FOREVER # 1,even ryte NOW my adrenaline is pumpin so high feel like snapping the keyboard ,lolol
im not sure of the teams larry BUT it was a perfect game ,no one was on base ,im talking about the game when the ump who called the runner safe appolized in tears ,like the next da y ,and i do kbow it was detroit as miggy caught the throw that was an out
if not perfect then a no-hitter
"He didn't even slide!" Wtf there's no rule that you NEED to slide to home if the catcher has the ball.
yeah there actually is
Isley Richardson in little league
The rule is, The catcher can not block the plate PRIOR to recieving the ball. The catcher doesnt have the ball and is in front of the plate which is why the call was made. If he impedes the runner then the runner is safe. It is a horrible rule that has since been recognized, and now umpires do a better job at analyzing the situation as it unfolds
exactly^
samiswhoa have you ever played baseball??? do you know your arms only have a limited reach and if you want to catch the ball you have to move in front of it!!! human being arent really like the rubber guy in the fantastic four. you see the catcher looking down at the plate to know where he is (5:45) the as the ball approaches he moves towards the ball to catch it.
ply-by-play guy is really upset about him not sliding...
Because the rules of baseball are under bases loaded the runner on third must slide at home. Otherwise they're automatically out.
***** I've never heard that. Interesting.
***** The runner is not required to slide the catcher is required to tag the runner on a non force out, the controversy stems from the new rule that the catcher must provide a lane for the runner to touch the plate if the catcher doesn't have possession of the ball. I do not like the rule and think the interpretation of it is fuzzy at best. but no where at any base is a runner ever required to slide that is not a rule.
Mar218100 That's what I thought.
Mar218100 No the runner is not required to slide however in certain cases such as a double play if the runner gets hit with the ball coming from second to first, if the runner at first would have been out it is declared a runner interference.
Let us not forget 1985 WS and Don Dinkinger's missed call at first base!
To me, that’ll always be the worst call ever
I still can't believe Seattle didn't run the ball
Lol. You're awesome!!! Too funny.
I can't believe you're still dwelling over that. Get a life.
Get over it
nipawe The Deflatriots wouldn't have let Seattle score anyway.
awesome.
Who else thinks that 1 announcer is super annoying
I do! He is so annoying and stupid. The Reds are my second favorite team too!
But he's right tho in everything he said. It's the Marlins network he's a fan and he works for the organization so he has the right to be pissed off. As a baseball lover if you weren't pissed off after watching this video you don't respect the game enough lol
omg... I wanted to bitch slap the announcer... that was a god call... I'm not for either team... it was a good call... clearly the catcher was blocking the path
+Ashley Taylor are you stupid that catcher was not blocking the plate until he had the ball which is okay
Alex Fife don't call me stupid... dumbass
If by worst call, you mean the broadcasters calling the play, I agree.
These commentators are so annoying. Mostly the color commentator, he is literally the embodiment of every old man watching baseball
@@moviescatsmargs why? Because he’s calling it as it is?
They whine like parents at a club baseball tournament
@@doesnotexist305 Please do more to make your name fitting.
If you look at the stands, they are already practicing covid precautions!
Worst call in MLB history?! I was expecting to see Jim Joyce blow the final out of Armando Galarraga's perfect game.
+RLoz76 Yes! Now THAT one would be a definite candidate for the worst call ever.
+RLoz76 No question - absolute worst call ever!
+RLoz76 Agreed. It wasn't even close. To take away a perfect game....what a shame.
+RLoz76, that call was responsible for Jim Joyce being the father of instant reply in MLB.
Yep, I agree. Rewarded by umping National League games afterwards.I guess because of the backlash. One of the worst umps I've ever seen.Jerry Meals is another bad one.
There's 2 kinds of sports people.
1) - Book people who believe 1 sentence can cover eeeeeevery possibilty.
2) - Common sense people who use their eyes and multiple factors before deciding.
You want to know what's wrong with sports in general these days?
... Every player in every sport trying to become an Oscar nominee by exploiting the rule book and over-officiating to get a call from the ref and/or ump.
I will hand it to baseball (and even hockey) however, their umps don't mess up perfectly good games like the refs of the NBA & NFL. Almost every NBA & NFL game is decided by calls.
If you're a nerdy calculator loving geek .... you probably think he's safe, cause afterall, a rules a rule right?
If you're a human being ... dude was out by 10 feet and just the fact that he pulled up like a chump and immediatly started acting like a child who was told it's time for bed .... you think he's out.
IMO
same thing with targeting in football
You are right about everything. This guy is out. Aside from not being a fan of this new rule, the fact of the matter is that he moved towards the runner to get the ball. The throw took him in that direction. But he wasn't blocking the plate anyway.
Actually the rule has been tweaked for 2015, This year Cozart(runner) would be out because he did not slide or attempt to touch home plate.
That's stupid too, the rule should be, " if the runner plows into the catcher then the runner is out" that's it. Because all they want to Do is stop collisions. Its their option weather to slide or just give themselves up.
Mar218100 whether its been tweaked or not they would still look to see if he was blocking. but yes. its a more chasing the throw friendly version this year which should theoretically stop arguments. "theoretically"
Is this what other team's announcers sound like? I've never heard a more irritating voice in my life.
KZ3fps Ever heard the White Sox announcer? Or Ernie Banks calling baseball?
Eric Alexander as a Tigers fan, I know all about the White Sox terrible announcer
KZ3fps You poor, poor man. I hope you usually get to hear the Tigers announcers instead of The Hawk.
Eric Alexander luckily I never have to listen to him, but I've heard from others how bad he is as well as hearing him in some highlight clips. Just terrible.
KZ3fps I'm a cubs fan and I don't really hear any bias from our play-by-play guys at all. I didn't know a commentator could be so biased and annoying.
Dang, the whole line at the concession could have been served by the time they got the call.
They did because firsthand I was there in the concessions thing lmao
Not at Dodgers Stadium
i was there i went twice for a beer
@@Jason-qu4fe Did they settle the call then?
Lol
Two words: Armando Gallaraga.
God don't even get me started on that play.
It was a terrible call, and I hope I can offer an explanation that defends Jim Joyce (the best ump, voted by mlb player). Umpires are taught to close their eyes on bang-bang plays at first and listen to the glove catch the ball and the foot hit the bag. This is because on plays that close, your eyes will decieve you and create indecisiveness in your brain, which is the last thing an umpire needs.
What happened was, it was a soft throw and it was hard to hear the catch, so when Joyce heard Gallaraga's foot stomp down on the bag in excitement of throwing a perfect game, he thought it was the runners foot and called him safe because he never heard the ball hit the glove. Even though he was out by a lot, it was too close for Joyce to realize his mistake and change the call directly after (which is allowed). It really sucks, hopefully at least you can understand why and have some sympathy for the umpire.
Horrible call, but handled with the utmost class. Joyce and Gallaraga will go down as two of the classiest guys in the history of the game.
GingerJesus28 If I can slightly teak your explanation: Umpires are taught to watch the foot and listen to the ball in the glove, not close your eyes. I'm a huge fan of Joyce (best strike calls in the game IMO) but in that situation unless the runner was clearly safe, he should have called him out. You can even tell by the runners reaction that he knew he was out. But when he apologized that is one of the most ballsy moves I have ever seen. Heck the guy couldn't walk to his mailbox without a police escort from all the death threats
GingerJesus28 ... '' . . . Umpires are taught to close their eyes on bang-bang plays at first and listen to the glove catch the ball and the foot hit the bag . . . ''. Hello ??? !!! ~~~ '' ... taught to close their eyes ... '' ... Are You Nuts ??? !!! ... Please do not be one of those '' Functional Illiterates '' ... [ These Folks are apart of the General Population that Doesn't KNOW what's Happening, AND it Doesn't even Know that it Doesn't KNOW !!! ] ... They do Exist, And to Prove my Point : THEY VOTED FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA ... Enough Said !!! ...
Let's just agree he didn't even touch the fucking plate...
Yep
yea
+Anthony Diaz yeah, i was fine with the whole he didnt get touched but he didnt touch the plate come on
Exactly
TRUE!! That's why I'm thinking
This rule is fucking bullshit. Literally you have players running in crying that he was blocking the plate instead of fucking sliding.
***** Well if you get rid of the rule, then the catcher would have simply been smashed by the runner.
jannecechmanek Better home plate collisions then the catcher not allowed to try and tag the runner
It's obvious you meant than.
wtf are you talking about
With the catcher where he was, the runner had three choices: 1 Slide and be blocked (a side would've potentially injured the runner too) 2 plow over the catcher to open up the way to the base (now illegal) or 3 make a case to the umpire that the catcher was in the way
The runner did the right thing according to the newest rules. The catcher could have moved toward right field a step or two to open up the lane and make the tag with ease.
Love how I can read the Mangers lips when he say "Ohh Fuck That, this is Bull Shit!"
these commentators talking like it's the end of the world "it's gonna change baseball forever" it's not that big of a deal
they're a big fan
I like how the announcer is crying...."He should have slid, He's not a pro...A Man would slide there...Whaaa Whaaa Whaaa."
Oldstuff Man no he said he didn't even slide to show that he was trying to get a challenge about it, he said," hes trying to play the challenge game."
hunter yognaut What's the challenge game? And, whatever it is, he won. Another run on his baseball statistics record. Suck it ....
TheSubmissionChannel well its a made up name that the announcers came up with and also, he did win the challenge, but thats very shallow for a mlb player to do that.
Like the rule says he has to be in possession of the ball, but he wasn't in possession, therefore he is safe
+Carlos Colon You're a special kind of dumb, aren't you?
Apparently you can be safe if you don't touch the plate.
The guys in New York should have to show their faces. Stupid call.
They made the correct call. The announcers are clueless. They even read it the rule that explains why he should be safe, and then acted all surprised when he was.
I'm not even a marlins fan and this pissed me off
EET FUK Fuck yeah, me too.
EET FUK right
EET FUK yeah like wtf how was he safe he got tagged the catcher moved legally he was not blocking home plate and plus the runner never touched home plate
Dean Winchester yea
I guess im just going to haft to go be an umpire and say when i see that call "well there was this gaming in 2014 that this happened and they called him safe without touching home plate." and then eject the coach when he tells me that its bullshit
The announcers are so biased it's not even funny
I honestly hate this fuck!ng rule it just messes up the sport! Cosart barely gave effort to slide. Mathis barley blocked the plate. At that moment I would love to be Redmond. 😡😡😬😬 even if your a reds fan you can admit it was an out and credit to Stanton. One of the reasons the Marlins don't have the luck they deserve. I hope this doesn't happen. Screw that rule!! If they remove it, life would be better. Anybody agree??
I agree 100%! Why can't it just be the umpires officiating the game doing what they did, when it was just a fair/foul home run situation?
Sean Brower yeah they should bring the classics back otherwise what's the point of being an umpire
JohnTheMonsterJamDude 25 What do you mean by the classics?
Sean Brower what I mean by classics is the an umpire makes one call wetter out or safe
JohnTheMonsterJamDude 25 Ah ok. So we agree.
He didn't even touch home plate.
That doesn't matter- he's safe due to Catcher Interference. (I think it's a bad call myself) If it's interference, whether he touched the plate doesn't matter)
Are you stupid
It does matter, he at least has to make an attempt... if he collides with the catcher then still does not touch the plate then your point would be valid... but that is not what happen
That's not true. If the runner is obstructed by the fielder, the runner doesn't even have to make an attempt, the runner is protected. It's very important to understand the rules of MLB and the consequences of breaking the rules.
Also, the runner must "Slide or Avoide Collision" they're not permitted to Pete Rose themselves into the Catcher like they used to be able to do.
New rule on home-plate collisions put into effect
7.13, intended to increase player safety by eliminating "egregious" collisions at home plate was jointly announced by Major League Baseball and the Major League Baseball Players Association on Monday.
7.13.b.The catcher may not block the pathway of a runner attempting to score *unless* he has possession of the ball.
c. Runners are not required to slide, and catchers in possession of the ball are allowed to block the plate. However, runners who do slide and catchers who provide the runner with a lane will never be found in violation of the rule.
Lol . “This call will change the game of baseball forever”.... 2018 and this call has long been forgotten. And, absolutely NOTHING has changed. Relax announcer guy
Cold Snap if that were true you would see it being exploited, I think this was a bad call but it didn’t mess up the game.
The only part is do you truat Joe Torre saying the catcher is allowed to move? he looks so much mafia that I gotta admit it’s hard 😆
Umm please stfu the call was awful they broke the rules and if they broke the rules clearly everyone thought they were gonna change them after that
Wrong.
Alec Bohm would like a word with you.
@@nateboy1489
Lol
One final thought, the ball takes the catcher into the pathway of the runner, what is he supposed to do? Not move, not catch the ball, and let 2 runs score? In addition, the runner was out by a mile, it wasn't even close.
Bear Udyr I think the issue was that he just sat down after he caught the ball.
Bear Udyr He is allowed to catch it in the line if he has too BUT if he could have caught it out of the way then he is at fault. This is an instance where it looks like he should be able to step up and field the ball without blocking the plate. That is what the ump saw. Right call.
knzboii Fuck you... this isn't teeball it's the fucking MLB. They should be able to do what it takes to make the play, this was a ridiculous call...
Tyler599xx tyler, you are an idiot.
Kaden Stahley I can tell you before the play is reviewed that the catcher blocked the plate - illegal now with the new rules.
Comments be like
"He should be out because he didn't touch home" or "he should be safe because he wasn't given a lane" or "I hate those announcers"
he is out the catcher moved for the ball and he had ball in hand so he can do anything he wants to tag
+Bmill plays Nobody is worse than Hawk Harrelson
those are the marlins announcers....the guy yelling was tommy hutton
+juan quiroz Learn the rules. Pause it at 1:25. The catcher's left leg is in the basepath and the ball is nowhere near him. That's interference. The catcher cannot move into the basepath until he has the ball. Not 1 second before. Not 1/10th of a second before.
These are the Marlins announcers
In all of baseball history, this is the worst call? When did you start watching baseball, last year?
It's top 3 tho
Keith Donaldo definitely not
“He should be out anyway! He didn’t even slide!”
I must have missed that rule. The worst announcers in the game.
Missing the point my friend.
@@doesnotexist305 No......I’m actually not.
I do not recall this rule... where the hell was i at?
Hmmm
If the runner cared about the rules, he would have avoided contact by sliding. He is a hypocrite for not doing so and then complaining the catcher was blocking the plate.
It is a bad rule but why are they so upset about him not sliding? He obviously knew he was going to be out so why potentially injure himself or the catcher when the rule says you are not supposed to run into the catcher and the catcher should stay out of the way?
The rules say nothing about sliding into the catcher. As long as you are obviously attempting to get to the plate, you can do more or less whatever you want.
***** that was legendary. hahahhahahha
I believe the runner ran around him to try to convince the umpire that the catcher was blocking the plate and that he should be safe. If he slid, it would look like he wasn't blocking the plate, and since the throw would have been a lot earlier than the slide, he would've easily been out.
***** Again, there is NO rule that you must slide. If you're going to spam this page with garbage and lies you're going to hear from me on every post. I repeat, there is NO rule that says you must slide...EVER!! Go read the rules.
Dude. There may not be a rule saying you have to slide. But anybody who has ever played baseball at any level knows that's how you play the game. He knew exactly what he was doing, I mean he practically through his arms up before Mathis even tagged him. I'm not gonna jump on the umpires for making a bad call. It's a new rule , calls like this happen but if you are gonna play baseball play it how it's supposed to be played.
I honestly think this whole "replay" thing shouldn't be used for everything. Cozart is out. Man I wish MLB would bring back the collision rule. So dumb how you can't knock into the catcher. I think this replay thing should just be used for calling home runs and tagging players.
The most amount if challenges there can be is 4, and I don't event think that has ever happened. Therefore, the challenges are useful and they aren't used that often.
The rule of running into the catcher is to protect the catchers
Kim Cafran-Lilien Does it maintain the purity of the game if the Buster Posey, Mauer, or any other catcher that hits well is moved to another base because teams are afraid of them getting injured? Posey already had a broken leg from a collision before the rule came in effect.
I mean, I think if we have coaches refusing to send runners because they're afraid a catcher might block the plate dangerously well and if we have teams not putting the best catchers at catcher, that's a pretty big hit to the integrity of the game. We've already diluted the regular season down quite a bit, to the point that fans of good teams pretty much figure, "Oh well, it's just April" when their team loses early on.
Honestly, if I was managing a team with a superstar catcher and the collision rules were eliminated right now, I'd tell him not to block the plate off. It's April. Why lose him for the rest of the year just to get an extra out at the plate here and there?
Kim Cafran-Lilien Blocking the plate didn't help Ray Fosse in an All Star game when Pete Rose bowled him over.
You are smart everyone else is retarded smart man
Catcher was in the path BEFORE having possession. And CLEARLY could have received the ball OUTSIDE of the path as well.
Seems like a good call to me.
The dude wasn't anywhere close yet, so, when he did get close, guess what? The catcher had possession of the ball.
By the way, I'm not a Marlins or reds fans, go Astros!(even though they lose every season 😔)
Matthew Hermes
Is there going to be a rule of about how close the runner has to be in feet or seconds before you can be in the base/plate line without possession of the ball? (Even this would not be legit since some players are extremely faster than other players. When are you going to rule it OK or not?)
My points are VERY clear...
He WAS in the base/plate line BEFORE he had possession of the ball.
He WAS FULLY capable of retrieving the ball OUTSIDE of the base line as well. (He had plenty of time to move outside the base/plate line to make the play on the ball WITHOUT being within the base/plate line.)
He waited WITHIN the base/plate line for the ball to come to him. Which was NOT necessary to make the play.
So, I agree with NY...
Make the plays OUTSIDE of the base/plate line and then come WITHIN ONLY with possession of the ball.
Then there is NOTHING to argue about.
With the new rules catchers are going to have to be more proactive and not lazy waiting on the ball within the base/plate line.
It's that simple... :-)
P.S. The rule is there to protect the catcher as much as the runner. So they will have to adapt to the new rules and learn to make plays outside of the base/plate line UNTIL they have possession of the ball.
Again, I agree with NY. They made the right call. If the runner was only a second or two earlier. The runner would have had no choice but to run into the catcher. (So, he was putting himself and the runner at risk.)
If you watch closely. The catcher makes 2 steps from the plate to be in a better position to retrieve the ball. He was FULLY capable of taking 2 more steps infield or outside of the field to be OUTSIDE of the base/plate line to get possession of the ball.
He FAILED to do so. So, again, that's why I agree with NY...
On another note. The worst call in MLB was when the referee took away that guys Perfect Game at first base. (The guy was out by a mile.)
This is no where near the worst call in MLB.
Just giving my opinion
It was a bad call . I'm a Marlins but I respect your opinion.
Matthew Hermes No matter where the guy is he can't block the plate until after getting the ball, the issue is that he could have fielded the ball out of the way before moving into it but didn't so he violated the rule.
That call was total crap. Who made this decision in New York....Deblasio and Chuck Schumer ?
I am an umpire myself and he should be out. I don't however blame the umpires on the field. In fact they called him out! It was the umpires reviewing the play in New York that called it safe. The umps of the field had to go with that decision. So to the Marlins coach, you have the right to be be pissed off, just not at those umps on the field.
Its just f'd up lol. Not the play but how many views this got. Thank you guys. Kappa.
+Bear Udyr yea lol
+Bear Udyr Is this your version of the misdirection play?
he didn't even touch home plate
+LowkeyXSpirit
Exactly! So it wouldn't have mattered anyway.
+LowkeyXTiger never read the rule book but I think obstruction automatically awards you the base you were going to even if you never touched it. But im not sure
I don't like either team, but that's an awful call. Blocking the plate or not, with the ball beating cozart to the plate by that much, it shouldn't even be a discussion to whether he's out or not. He could be out by 80 feet, but if you think the catcher was in front of the plate and blocking it, what are you gonna do, call him safe? This game has been around for 150 years. Stop changing it.
That has to be one of the best analogies I've read, hands down. Call on the diamond should not have been reversed for the simple fact that the runner would have been out no matter what, and it looks like (in my opinion) that the runner had a lane to the plate anyways. Bad call. Coming from a Jays fan
***** He also never touched the plate.
Jett Lennox Like i said in a post above, i don't like this rule either but it was the right call by the rule. The moment he stepped over the 3rd base line without the ball he was in violation of that rule. And saying he would be out no matter what is stupid because if it was still legal to run over the catcher, i'm sure he would have and possibly knocked the ball loose.
Okay yeah I see what you're saying. All I'm saying that if the catcher gave him the lane to the plate according to the rule, he would've had plenty of time to tag him, I just don't agree with the call. It's kind of like that interference call against the cardinals in the World Series two years ago. The ump projected that he would've been safe...here he could've projected him out. But I see what you're saying. Dumb rule no matter what haha
Cinci4life ok but the rule is that if a throw takes the catcher up the line he can do whatever he wants with it
They called Angel Hernandez
TGDylan96 ikr lol
Those two dozen fans in Miami are VERRRRY ANGRY.
This is a good example of getting a play right after review.
The reason this is the right call is because he purposefully moved into the path of the baseline when he squared up. he could have caught it out of the baseline just fine. He moved into the path and didn't give Cozart any of the plate. These announcers are so biased. He had to go that way to get the ball but not into that path of the baseline. Safe! Right call whether they like it or not.
I'm not gonna argue with you or anyone anymore, if you are out by 10 feet, you are OUT, the catcher has the ball WAY before you get there.
Rex Iustus but its a new rule so you're wrong. he blocked the plate before he went to get the throw. new rule states that that is not allowed. old rules you're right. new rules not so much. he couldn't slide because there was nothing to slide into cuz the catcher was blocking it. by no means it it right. but it was the correct call
Agree to disagree.
***** Actually -- and factually -- you are wrong. The catcher is ALLOWED to go into the baseline to catch the ball. AKA the catcher can go into the baseline if the throw takes him into the baseline. The throw took him up the line -- AND he was still out by 10 feet -- he's out. You are factually wrong Andrew.
Ryan Keough FACTUALLY SPEAKING.....he was blocking the plate before he got the ball. the throw did not take him into the line. he was already blocking the plate before he went into the baseline even more for the throw. FACTUALLY SPEAKING he is safe. The marlins radio is basing on him not sliding and that he did should be out. that wheat everyone else is saying too. he doesnt have to slide if the plate is blocked and guess what it was. you are wrong... this call was right.
"Which leaves me to believe, Tommy, there's a discussion going on in New York..."
That commentator was so triggered lol
Imagine having to listen to this announcer every night my god I would switch teams
Just watch the other team's broadcast. 😂
Ethan Bates I am a reds fan and marlins fan I’m lucky I don’t live in Miami and have to listen to this guy
Well, he had time to fill, but I think he was a little too emotional.
I think it’s funny
no kidding, what a cry baby bitch.
Geez, the announcer had quite the opinion on that...
FlamingTaco Thank you I highly agree
Flaming Taco I agree! Who IS this guy, anyway?
Danny Curtis He’s 100% right though. Passionate about the game and that was the worst call in history
FlamingTaco I know I hat them
Brayden Bernhardt Welcome to the pussified present that we live in, where being passionate about the game “should get you fired”. What the hell is wrong with you? “Mad because he never made it to the majors” yeah, and I bet you’re mad that you never made it out of high school, you dumbass. Go back to the drive-thru window at McDonalds.
The worst call ever was when that pitcher had a perfect game taken away from him.
lolz at the announcers aneurysm. Homers. :)
I don't blame him, call was terrible.
Why is this under review? Even if the catcher wasn't "blocking the plate," Zack Cozart didn't even touch homeplate LMAO..
+SecondKyle Basically saying, he was out either way
what do you mean? if the catcher wasn't blockingz then he's out. if he wasz which is what the umpires decided, then it's illegal and the runner is safe
+SecondKyle i was thinking the same thing but the rule says that if the catcher is blocking the path the runner automatically gets the base, the dispute is not weather its safe or out its about the carcher blocking home plate which leads to if the rule applyes or not
Rindge Leaphart No, he wasn't blocking the plate though, they explained that in the video. It was a clean call and Cozart never touched home plate anyway so he was out anyway.
+SecondKyle of course, i agree he was not blocking home plate it shoud have been an out, but what happened is that becuase the humpires decided that he was blocking home plate the runner doesnt need to touch the base he just gets it thats why he scored wihout touching the base, its really simple to understand really
The funny thing is Redmond throwing a fit at an ump in Florida, when the call came from New York!
+Jeff Brown I'm not saying this is the way it is, but it seems to me the final responsibility for the call should be with the head ump on the field, not some committee back in NYC. So a team can ask for a call to be reviewed, and NYC can give their opinion to the ump on the field, but the ultimate decision should belong to the ump. If committees of umps in NYC are making calls on the field, then there is way more effed up with MLB than just this call.
dLimboStick I agree but there is no way he's not going with what the replay officials in New York say. It would probably be his last game to ever umpire in the majors if he did that.
Jeff Brown
When he makes a call like that, it SHOULD be his last game ever as an umpire.
dLimboStick Lol. So true! I honestly believe this, "bad call," is more of a bad rule of baseball, that stems from the Buster Posey injury and subsequent overreaction. Just like awful NFL rules that define whether certain plays are actual catches or not (think of the Megatron and Dez Bryant nullifications, etc.). Certain bad rules need to be changed and the refs and umps might not look so incompetent.
+Jeff Brown Agreed!
7:07 The announcer went from 1-10 “I FEEL LIKE DOING THE SAME THING!”
This could've been a 1 min video...
Uploader probably doesn’t know how to edit.
This shouldn’t have been a video, unless they are showing like top 10 throws home
But then you wouldn't get to hear the announcers make idiots of themselves. It wasn't the wrong call. They even put the graphic up and highlighted it. The catcher was blocking the plate without the ball. Pretty clear. If he wants to rant, he should do so about the rule. Not the call. The call was made correctly by rule
Matt Delacoma yes the call was correct
if they cut the middle part and only showed the "overturned" part
Not agree. Worst call un MLB history was Jim Joyce in Armando Galarraga's Perfect Game. Was so easy and means damn a lot
I agree!
+H-Account oh for hte love of GOD DROP THE NONSENSE MOVE THE FUCK ON
***** WTF dude?
Yes, I agree on the Jim Joyce blown call being the worst in history.
I also believe Joyce owning up to it, and Gallaraga bringing out the line up card to Joyce the very next day, who was the home plate umpire that game, were the greatest examples of sportsmanship in history.
+H-Account or how bout when they took the home run away from george brett for having too much pine tar on his bat.
Sounds like the announcer is routing for the marlins
obviously
+Jedi of awesomeness well he is a marlins announcer...
Right
+SergeantRAZOR how much do you hate your life??
+Land Sucks exactly
That announcer needs to keep his mouth shut. But yeah that should be out the catcher HAD the ball
Pete Rose would have knocked that catcher into the stands.
Yeah, but he'd still have been out! Well, at least till New York fucked up!
cant do that anymore thanks to buster Posey
Can't be more right
Id' PAY to see CHARLIE HUSTLE DO THAT AGAIN. He's done it before. Pete Rose was one the most passionate ball players I ever saw and TOUGH AS NAILS. You just would not want to be on his bad side. I've done trade show circuits with him as a guest autographer and hes as tough as they come!
That’s why Charlie Cheap Shot isn’t in the Hall of Fame
To score a run, I though you actually had to touch the plate. Damn guess I'm wrong
Thought*
+Jqred He couldn't because the catcher was blocking it, at least that's the only thing I could think of
If their is a obstruction call it doesn't matter if you touch plate or not
It isn't obstruction if the ball is in front of the plate. The catcher had possession of the ball
If obstruction is called, you're not required to touch it
Not the worst call ever. Pirates vs Braves, July 26, 2011. A 19 inning game, over 6 hours long, ended by a horrible and obvious blown call by the home plate umpire. The impact the game had on the rest of the Pirates season was even worse. That game depleted their bullpen and sent the team into a downward spiral that took them out of 1st place in their division and ended with them narrowly missing the playoffs. I'm still mad about that call to this day.
+TheNotoriousJMC Maybe you should try umpiring a few thousand baseball games and you could appreciate just how hard it is to get every single call right.
No doubt! Exactly right! And for people to say ump a few games, I have umped a bunch and yes mistakes happen but he didn't ask for help when he was blocked from seeing it. His job is to get it right!
MrSds1000 Go watch the replay of how that game ended. Anyone could get that call right...
I'm no baseball fan, but aren't you supposed to touch Home Plate?
Diet Bleach but the call was if it was abstruction, if the catcher was blocking the path of the runner so he had to swerve out of the way
Diet Bleach yep
andrew but he didn’t slide either so it’s hard to call
Diet Bleach what would we do without you?
Diet Bleach in
Don Denkinger calling Jorge Orta safe at first in Game 6 of the 1985 WS will forever be the worst call ever.
These are NOT umpire reviews, these are reviews made by guys in suits. So stupid.
these announcers are horrible
yep
Why?!?! Because they're loud and correct?
+NeXa Gaming they were Marlins Announcers. :P
Doesn't mean they weren't 100% correct. That call was completely wrong.
No they're not. Everything they said was the truth
3 years later and the game hasn't really changed because of this play.
You call that padding armor? How dense are you? Those pads only reduce impact from a foul tip, they are utterly worthless when a full grown man hits you running full speed. They are not football pads. You want to see people tackling each other, stick to football.
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Black Mamba The Umpires will come to get you.
Guadalupe Rodriguez that's how we know the league knows it was a BAD call.
Two shit teams
I remember watching this game live on TV with my dad when I was young and us both freaking out about how horrible this call was. We aren't even fans of either team, we were just killing an afternoon watching a ballgame.
What's bad is the runner never touched the home plate so why wasn't he out for that reason 🤔
I disagree with this call, but this is not the worst call in MLB History. The worst call in MLB history was A's vs Tigers no fan interference.
Worst call, Indians(?) at Baltimore. Orioles player hits a (supposed) 3-run HR, initially called single, yet 3 innings later, reversed into HR.
yeah that sounds like a pretty terrible call
Worst call ever is Don Denkinger's safe call in the 1985 World Series. Any other call is just a poser.
dont forget the jerry meals call with the pirates against the braves
Agreed, this game had absolutely zero importance lol
Announcers are sarcastically hilarious!
The announcers sounded like smart asses they should have been fired after this. They showed their inner fanboy for the Marlins.
+UltimateGamer3D it did change a lot of rules since then bc that's not how baseball is played
+11laxmonkey Should we also bring back throwing at guys' heads after home runs? Get rid of the punishments for PED use? Bring back the fixing of games? The games change with the times in different ways. Teams don't want to lose their players for months or an entire season or permanently because fans like to see them get wiped out at the plate. When you're paying someone 10-20 mil a year to play and they lose their season to an injury, it's time to make a new rule. Besides, teams regularly do things like this; they notice a pitcher is using an illegal substance on the ball but don't tell the umpires until it's beneficial for the opposing pitcher to be tossed. Rules are worked all the time, but people want to complain about "muh baseball rules."
shoulda run into the catcher like a man
LOL....you're kidding right? You are aware that it's against the rules now.....right?
holy shit, no lol. I didn't know that. That's a crying shame. That's one of the most badass plays in baseball
Was another overreaction after a star player was injured in a collision. (Buster Posey)
It didn't really add anything from to the game. You supposed to beat the ball to the plate, not try to knock a guy out so he drops the ball. Never really was a baseball play, since baseball is about beating the ball to the plate/avoiding the tag skillfully. Plus we had 2 catchers die in Canada one seasons, so they took it out of the game here years ago and it honestly made plays at the plate more exciting. Players had to start using skill to avoid a tag, and I've seen a lot of nice plays because of it.
i'm pretty sure that's illegal now
You see the catcher tag him on the back of the leg and the runner doesn’t even touch the plate anyway
seamustard 03 not what there debating
No he didn’t but he never touched the plate.
But he was blocking the plate.
The Jim Joyce botched call on Armando Galarraga's perfect game was worse...but yeah, this is really bad!
+James P. Agreed
The runner is out. Cut and dry.
Jim Hayes Apparently not.
Sliding has nothing to do with it. These Marlin announcers are HORRIBLE.
+S Freeman Yea it does...but the catcher also made the tag so.
I'll still say the worst call was in a 1998 game between the Yankees and Orioles at The Stadium. Yankees were up by 1 in the 9th but Orioles got first two batters on. Next batter tried to bunt them over but bunted right back to Rivera on the mound, who threw to get the lead runner at third. Brosius at 3B CLEARLY closed his glove too soon and the ball bounced OFF his glove... and the 3B ump, standing BEHIND Brosius, called the runner OUT. Then he ejected every single person on the Orioles who argued, and refused to check with the crew chief who was working 1B and had a better view. He makes the right call, Orioles have bases loaded and the tying run at third with no out. Instead it's now 1st and 2nd with one out... and the next batter grounds into a double play to end the game. Absolutely horrible.
be like T-ball pretty soon.
Lol
George Valkhoun HE DIDN'T EVEN SLIDE
George Valkhoun yep this is getting ridiculous.
in my dad's slow pitch league they just draw a line at home plate and if the ball gets to the plate before you passed the line you're out. No more collisions. is the MLB going to turn into that? please no
that's dumb
+John Nichols yes I agree.
I hate the anousers but he was out
I hate that you can't pronounce announcers
+Brian Baird I hate that you have to judge this person for making a mistake.
Totally not bias announcers or anything....
They're Marlins' announcers so they are expected to be a little biased but still should be objective. I agree they went overboard.
+Alex Barlow He was out tho. You could plainly see he was out. He didnt even touch home.
+Pookie D. thats not even the issue they are ruling him safe because his walking path was obstructed by a player even tho he had the ball :/
Uhh...thats what a catcher is supposed to do.
Pookie D.
not according to the new rules.:S
Almost as bad as the infamous “infield fly” call against the Braves in the playoffs when the ball was caught clearly in left field, not the infield. Cost the Braves the game
Here's the infield fly rule.
An Infield Fly is a fair fly ball (not a line drive or bunt) that, in the judgment of the umpire, can be caught by an infielder, pitcher, or catcher with ordinary effort and when there are runners on first and second or first, second, and third and less than two outs.
Notice it doesn't say 'caught in the infield', it says 'caught by an infielder.'
They call it on balls in the shallow outfield all the time.
Or the play where Kent Hrbek lifted Ronny Grant off the bag and they called him out.
John Bishop. Wrong answer. The infield fly call was 100% the correct call. Show us where the rule says the ball must be caught in the infield. You should learn the rules before commenting. The play did not cost the Braves the game either.
Was it "ordinary" that an infielder was playing that deep into the outfield? Sounds like you're a Cardinals fan, my dude. That doesn't seem "ordinary" to me.
That was sick. I would like to throw this one in the mix as well: 1991 WS Gm2: Hrbek lifts Gant off the bag for the out
When I started going to baseball games they averaged < 2 H 30M This decision seemed to take that long....................Now instead of watching baseball I watch my aquarium. More happens and it happens faster.
I watched it several times and the catcher was clearly in the lane before the ball arrived. I'm no expert on these changing rules but if the rule is that he can't block the lane before the ball arrives then he violated it, which is why the runner blew off the slide.
The catcher had ball way before runner was even near! He was out by a mile! It’s a horseshit call and even a bigger pile for the rules to be changed to some imaginary line! The dude has the fuckin ball in his glove and has time to dig his asshole out, sniff his fingers and then tag the below average, nobody runner! New York blew that call and need to have common sense to making calls.
you know this video is old when stanton is with the marlins lol
*He DiDnT eVeN sLiDe*
Carlton Hanks He didn't even (have to) slide
thats what i was thinking, announcer kept talking about him sliding maybe making a difference here but you dont ever have to slide, its just an option
POV: he didn’t touch home plate.
So he did not slide. There is no rule that you have to slide on any base, so the announcer is wrong. That he should had been called out? Definitely.
How’s he gonna slide with the catcher there lol? That’s feet first into the mans chest there. Catcher was in the way. Sorry about it but there’s many ways to make that play differently
Such bullshit. He was already out by 10 feet. That wasn't crowding the plate. Come on. What a soft call. Unreal.
Yeah man, basketball, baseball, and such are becoming so weak in terms of officiating.
Bear Udyr All sports are nowadays
only call worse than this was from the announcers
It's not even about sliding. He didn't even touch the plate. Announcers can't make calls in the first place so I don't see how it affects any part of the game. This call was stupid. Period.
The catcher moved to his left 'in the base path' which did block it. He still could have moved left but in front of the base path ...
he should be out never touched the plate
chris upton nope he's safe
catcher had possession and was not near the runner, hes fucking out
explain how he is safe
Mashy Potatoey Explain how the catch has possession of the ball before he stepped into the path of the runner.
The catcher is in the wrong, the runner is in the right.
Mashy Potatoey 1:56 to 1:58 the catcher moved to block the path of the runner *WITHOUT THE BALL IN HIS POSSESSION* and then went to tag the runner.
Get rid of the blocking rule. Install airbags on the catcher (and quarterbacks too) so when they take a knock, the airbags deploy! Yes, Shark Tank, I'll take your offer...lol
Why is he arguing with them? It wasn't their decision to begin with.
"new york' is probably on the phone to Vegas.
And when it's the Yankees, they're on a conference call with Vegas and the Mafia
He never touched the plate tho????
tabularasaconfirmed doesn't matter. The call was obstruction. It was a shit call, but a call nonetheless.
he is awarded the base the umps give him, he dont have to touch them on that type of call,
and i think the call was fine, the catcher set up in the lane, if the runner was full bore he could have made a play for the plate, but it being obstructed does not mean he must be a poor sport and try to slide and could hurt the catcher seriously. the ump determined that the runner had a chance from 3rd, it is not determined at the play itself or the umps would of called it out like original, umps do not like to change their call it makes them look like a bad call ump, so changing the call like that had to be the right call, which it was. catcher was blocking the line while the runner was half way or more, and continued all the way to the play. either way for me would be a 50/50 call according to the rules, myself, i like the old way best, baseball is supposed to be a little physical.
anyway, i have seen hundreds and hundreds of calls much worse then this one.
He was never tagged either, watch the slow mo.
i did watch and he was tagged, and even if he wasn't tagged he was well out of the baseline that would be an automatic out tagged or not. 3 feet is not much to work with, that is one reason they came up with the lane blocking rule. my opinion it should go back to old ways but that is only an opinion, i am not the ones that makes the rules of the game,
and even if he wasnt out of the baseline like i said, i wasn't there watching as the ump saw it, so we just have to give them some margine to the umps, and there job is tough, so like i also said, plenty of other calls out there that top this one 100 fold.
It sure looks to me like the tag missed but I agree they should go back to the old way, if the catcher is dumb enough to block the lane then they deserve to be trucked.
He didn't even touch home
+Max Tovella i know
+Max Tovella If the catcher is illegally (that is, without having the ball in his possession) blocking the plate then the runner is called safe automatically.
+counterstriving " The Buster Posey Rule" 10 years ago there would have been a collision at the plate.
+counterstriving You are not "blocking" the plate until the runner is in the immediate area. By the time the runner got to the immediate area the catcher had already received the ball in plenty of time. What the hell was the catcher supposed to do? If this is the way baseball is going to be ruled then the catcher would have no choice but to just get out of the way and let the runner score. This was in 2014..... has there been clarification since then?
+Max Tovella >>>>> He didn't even touch home............... True, but once he gives up on the play and goes to the dugout he is out. I'm not even sure the tag was ever made for that matter. Totally horrible call.
The only reason it took so long is because they had to wait for the check to clear.
No shit.
+ptrinch Oh, come on. That is so stupid. The Reds have finished 10 or more games under .500 each of the last two years. They lost almost 100 last year. They haven't won a playoff series in two decades. The Reds do NOT pay officials to get calls.
Horrible call. The catcher was in no way blocking the runner before possession. How can you block a runner who is 5 steps away? He did not change his pace or stride until well after the catcher had the ball, and he whined his way past the plate. The runners path was not obstructed until the catcher had the ball. Given the way this was called, now if a runner is still on third and a catcher crosses the baseline to catch a throw from the outfielder, he should get a free run because his "pathway was blocked". It was a ridiculous call, and that doesn't even take the fact he was moving to catch the ball.
You can block a runner 5 steps away the same way if he is 1 step away, by standing in his pathway. It's a poorly written rule. It should say that the catcher can't impede the runner.
Bad call man, bad f****** call.
Smash Er - Dead on. The catcher HAD TO MOVE into the path of the runner to catch the thrown ball. Then, once he caught the ball, the runner was dead, not even close to home plate, so how in the hell was he ever "obstructed"? Answer: He wasn't. He was out and he knew it, just like everybody else in the ball park knew it. Those guys in New York making these judgments are so clueless, they've made a farce of replay review in MLB. They're fucking up the game.
Oh, what a sucker I am for headlines!
1) Not the worst call by far, in baseball.
2) The announcer is a loud mouth. Calm down and watch the replay.
3) Runner was SAFE in my opinion. And I agree with New York. Catcher set up across the base path blocking it, independent of the throw. The runner was two strides away, a nanosecond from home plate, and the catcher still did not have possession of the ball. The catcher did not have to move into the base path to catch it. In the old days, the runner would have simply knocked the catcher over resulting in possible serious injury. The new rule was brought in to stop that. Parents who coach Little League are quite familiar with the rule. The announcer seems to display ignorance of the new rule.
Mulchinock:
"Catcher set up across the base path blocking it, independent of the throw." - WRONG on count #1
"The runner was two strides away, a nanosecond from home plate, and the catcher still did not have possession of the ball." - WRONG on count #2
"The catcher did not have to move into the base path to catch it". - And WRONG on count #3
Try again idiot.
The announcers are full of it - the catcher moved into the basepath UNNECESSARILY AND WITHOUT THE BALL. He could've caught the same throw from RF if he was inside the foul line. By the rule, the runner is safe and by intelligence the announcers are stupid homers (mainly the color guy)
+Twymanator i blame that little girl catcher Parker Posey for ruining the catcher's game in baseball. Boo hoo, I broke my leg at work and have the best healthcare on the planet not to mention I make millions of dollars playing a game. Sheesh.
so he should have caught the ball staying on the 1B side of the plate so he could make it more difficult for him to make the tag?....still think its the catchers job to tag out runners....
Good comment Tshed
what happens when you have "a grey area" around a rule
Yep your so right. I think one little accident at the plate doesn't necessarily mean you have to change the game completely!
Shut the fuck up anouncer
+Julian Jimenez learn how to spell before u trash talk
+Madden FTW You*
+Eugene bru everyone says you like u it's easier to type so stfu gay boy
dozens of fans furious with the change in call
This isn't even close to the Don Dekinger call that cost the Cardinals the world series where the guy was out by a full step
Yep. Denkinger
Omg you’re right - that was the worst call in MLB history and I’m not even a Card’s fan. Worse yet the other umpires didn’t overrule the call
It was a shitty call, but they Royals would have won that game anyway. The Cards hit, like, .157 in that series. 33 years later and they're still butthurt in St. Louis.
The 7th game was hilarious.
Does every fan hate the new rule? Yes. But under the new rule, the catcher should have moved forward and to his left to get that ball and then turn around and make the tag... every other catcher in MLB does that now, so why would this guy be exempt? He only went to his left and blocked the plate before he even had the ball. Don't get me wrong, the new rule sucks for fans, I hope they get rid of it.. they wont, but it would be great if they did. But the ''guys in New York'' that reviewed the play got it right.
It fucking sucks give them a chance Miami had it the umpire review fucked baseball July 31 2014 fuck the day go red by the way give them all hell
Hi I'd just like to add something. Jeff Mathis (the catcher) did the right thing. As a catcher, it is extremely hard to play the ball on a short-hop which he would've had to do if he stepped forward like you said he should be done.
but the catcher had to move in the runners line to catch the ball. Can you need hear or see? It was clearly stated that the catcher can impeed the runners line IF he has the ball OR he is going to get the ball. Both criteria had been satisfied before the runner was withing a 5 foot radius of the catcher. So how is the catcher wrong? he followed the rule perfectly. and you can even see that before the ball was thrown he had no intention of blocking the plate. he was standing on. the runner would've had plenty of room to get there had the throw been correct.
The rule should be simple, not all this technical stuff that's ruining the process of the game, the rule should have been, no colliding into the catcher if you do, then you are out. That's how it should be just short and simple.
Will Federowic he did not have to move onto the line to make the catch! He could have moved up and to the left but before the ball got there he moved onto the line to make the catch! A lot of catchers in the league have made the same play but pulled up in front of the line and tagged the runner with a sweeping motion! He had plenty of time before the ball got there to position his self for the catch without impeding the runner.
As a former umpire...that is just .f..cking disgusting to watch!! MLB (and most sports, esp the NFL) keep finding more ways to ruin the game......and are becoming just about unwatchable!!
Brayden Bernhardt no
AMEN
He as gunned down! Out by a damn mile!
They should have checked with Angel Hernandez, his calls are always spot on!
Lmao
@Paul Kostiak You’re missing the point