I have been using the Viper V3 Pro for couple of days now and i freaking love it, I already have the viper v2 pro and the DeathAdder V3 pro and it like the both fused and created the the viper v3 pro this mouse is just too good tbh.
They won't make a mini version since it's extra manufacturing space in another factory that will probably not sell very well compared to the normal size, not worth it unless they do market research and find that the demand is actually there. otherwise it won't happen
Compared to the DAV 3 pro, i like the aggressive button indents. It's lighter, which is also good. Not sure about the rest though. The inward slope on the right side is odd and tends to push my fingers into the mouse pad, which is annoying and causes drag. Furthermore, the hump is oddly shaped. It touches the right side of my palm , but not the center. They need to raise it slightly, widen the hump to fill the palm, and tone down the aggressive inward slope on the right side. Otherwise it's a really good mouse. The DAV3 is highly competitive, though, and more comfortable.
Was thinking about buying the v3 pro after buying the v3 hyper speed. I checked out one of those review models that you can try out in store and it was really similar to the v3 hyper speed. The only differences that I noticed was the coating, the censor being placed in the middle of the mouse rather than the front and a huge difference in weight and battery life. The new version has considerably noticeable weight reduction which felt really good to aim with. An issue I have with the new version of the mouse is difference in battery life. The V3 Hyper speed(older) cannot be charged and uses an AA battery or an AAA with an AA conversion kit to reduce weight. With the AA battery you can expect 280 hours of play time at 1000hz polling rate, while the V3 PRO (New) has less than 100 hrs of playtime at 1000hz polling rate. For a casual gamer or someone who values their money I would not recommend paying the 100-150 USD price premium for worse battery life. I wouldn't trade those extra 185 hours of battery life for even 40g weight reduction. Ngl the mouse is not a huge upgrade apart from the weight reduction and the censor placement. It is a good mouse but not worth the money.
Quick tip for all you new Viper v3 pro owners out there. Dav3 skates fit perfectly on the viper v3 pro. I just put an extra set of x-raypad obsidian skates on mine and it’s wonderful!
I have smaller hands, and I aggressively claw. I thought the GPX was the largest size I could comfortably use, but I'm feeling pretty great on the Viper V3 Pro. If they made a mini version, I would instantly buy it, but it is still comfortable for smaller hands. Not dissimilar to the GPX in terms of size. I tried the black coating, and it wasn't much different from the white coating in terms of grip. AimAdapt says actually the black is grippier. I just went with the white because it looks clean and is less prone to fingerprints.
17 cm hand haver here and I love the shape lol. IDK what people are complaining about. Granted, my first good gaming mouse was a sensei ten. Side buttons and coating are excellent for me too.
Came from an HSK, now on a lamzu a mini. Def would b big for me. Before having fun with shapes I jus bought the viper v2 for the specs tho. Good to see theyre still doin well, especially after whatever the hell the cobra was
I have till this day Viper Ultimate, and what I like about that mouse and one of the key points for me, is that grip pattern on side buttons. Dunno why they get rid of that.
The problem with mice like these imo is that if the body is similar to superlight then if your fingers are long enough and you wanna grip your smaller fingers will be rubbing into the pad unless you squeeze your hand which is incredibly unpleasant long term
@@boardzy I hoping to see that comparison, is the beast X mouse you have your favorite mouse compared to the Razor Viper v3? I just upgraded my Lamzu Atlantis to the Viper v3 and man this mouse feels huge and restrictive and I have huge hands. I'm going to order the Sora v2 next, I'm a claw/finger-tip hybrid.
I had the superlight 1 before and didn't upgrade hearing the side buttons are the same. I tried the death adder and viper 2 before but the shapes weren't for me. With the viper 3 it feels a lot more comfortable in the hand but I find the superlight's shape to be just slightly better on the bottom left side. Depending on if I try to give it more palm to the body of the mouse I can feel the bottom left side pushing a bit into the base of my thumb which I didn't have an issue with on the superlight. It's not a big deal since it doesn't feel terrible and I can just adjust my grip and have no issue, but that's probably with the longer back hump. I can't go back to the superlight now though since the side buttons feel awful and the viper has the ones that I like, which are razer's side buttons in general. I don't get a mushy feel or input, I get what I need and my thumb doesn't have to press in harsh. The superlight 1 has mushy side buttons that force my thumb to press against the frame of the mouse. I can feel a bit of my thumb on the edge of the viper v3's side buttons but I don't find discomfort with it and barely notice it or again, just a grip style change to adjust.
I just purchased this mouse 2 weeks ago and honestly its responsive, I noticed i had a really nice grip to the mouse it doesn't slip with sweaty palms. really fast mouse. feels like good quality
unironically haven't kept a razer mouse in years specifically because of how long the back taper of the mouse seems to always be, all other specs aside
Ergonomics is the concept of fitting the tool to the person, and it doesn't just apply to ergo styled things. So when you tell people to "just move your fk'n finger back" you might be advising them to do something that can cause permanent damage over time putting them in a situation where eventually they only do have the one stable grip style due to said permanent damage. You coulda just said "hey maybe this mouse isn't for you!" I don't think ima watch this dudes reviews anymore. Just another chad on the internet tryin to shill for companies so he doesn't lose his free samples.
The only valid reason why they wouldn't likely make a Mini Viper V3 Pro is that they fucking hate the Viper Mini since it makes their every other mices irrelevant. Which was why they got rid of the Viper Mini, released the Cobras (nobody asked for them), and continued to milk the Viper Mini with the SE edition ($300).
I'm honestly surprised at how well rounded Razer's mouse lineup is. It's not perfect (no real viper mini wireless cough cough.) But considering how Logitech, the other biggest player in the space really only has 1 mouse that's even viable. I would expect most companies to give in the same amount of effort.
1:08 - I bought a Hati-S Ace Wireless two years back cause Razer never made a small wireless mouse. I swear there's no way they're earning more from the Signature edition than if they just made something they can mass produce. (I hope.) And btw if you're someone with smaller hands or just want a smaller mouse, the Hati-S Ace Wireless was okay, but it doesn't feel like a top of the line mouse. Works fine for everything except for osu! where for some reason it gains the power of teleportation.
When you turn the Viper into something that’s less accommodating to smaller hands than the Superlight, and yet the Superlight still feels more full in the hand than the Viper for larger hands, you know you’ve done goofed. Either way, Razer is probably the biggest instigator of the RGB unicorn puke trend in the gaming industry, so I just find them hard to take seriously.
Not my experience at all as a large-handed user and somebody who has used the g pro shape for years and years and years, this viper V3 pro feels much chunkier and wider to me in the hand.
Man if only they made these in a mini version. I switched to ULX cheetah from my rvmse and prefer the size and weight. Definitely prefer optical sensors for the clicks though. By far more reliable when it comes to double clicking issues.
Say what you want. The Razer Viper V3 Pro is an amazing mouse. It and my Finalmouse ULX are my two mains for FPS games. Love them both. 1600 dpi, 23 sens in MW3/WZ. Perfect feeling.
Someone from Razer on Reddit said small mouses don't sell well, only in Asia countries do they do well. So it's hard for them to justify making mini version of their mouses.
Well Logitech is the same way. New keyboards are just out of this world with price to what they offer. Headset too, 250€ for that mic? Pls… Mousepads bad af. Superlight 2 has minimal improvements. At least razer improves features amd hardware for the money they ask.
Back button annoys me because my thumb comes down a slight angle and have large hands. If the buttons had more \ shape instead of [ shape would not be an issue. Installing the grips helped a lot.
I'll make a video comparing those 2 mice soon as well. I ultimately prefer ambi shapes despite loving the dav3, and some minor things like lower weight, button height, sensor position. But if you're content with the dav3 shape/experience I don't think this is a necessary upgrade atm
Sounds like the people who are complaining about the shape got NBA hands and they're palm clawing from the top/front of the mouse and refuse to change their grip.
Viper V3 Pro or Deathadder V3 Pro for a 19.2x9.8 hand, claw grip variation? Absolutely confused which to get and need to upgrade from Glorious Model O.
@@DaEliteGamer117 get the Viper V3 Pro, lighter and lets you play more focused agressive, deathadder wouldve been too relaxed for me personally for my playstyle
@@thepanda145 what about the g pro superlight 2, or the final mouse, or the ninjago mouse or the bougie wougie mouse? i messed up some of the names but ifykyk.
I try every single mouse on the market different feeling with all them with positives and negatives aspect ! And after all I tested the GPX 2 is no doubt still the goat in terms of overall performance it s just insane how this mice work in every single game !
I have superlight original. Was gonna get #2 because my mouse is dying, but ima try this. Amazon lets you return 30 days no questions asked. We'll see how it feels!
I’ve been using the viper for about a week now and idk man I’m so mixed on the shape It just feels like it’s not meant for fingertip grip but at the same time it’s a comfortable mouse it just feels maybe a tad too big. Was kinda hoping they’d keep the old viper shape tbh
Yes I will include it, I prefer it over the ULX large, to put it simply it feels like its designed for claw more and I'm fine with the increased weight. Will go into more detail in the vid tho
Question. If i love my viper v2 pro with pulsar v2 superglides on a razer strider pad, do you think ill love this new shape? im a little worried the shape may throw me off
I don’t think it’s worth the upgrade if you already like the shape of the v2. The specs are almost identical apart from a 5 gram weight difference. I’m hoping they make another mouse with the original viper shape in the future.
No, if you love the V2 shape no reason to switch, you can buy 8k dongle separately if you really care about it, got the V2 myself and i see no reason to buy the V3
There are a lot of cons with this mouse. You have to open the app every time and it's horrible. There is also a micro adjustment/lift off problem with the mouse (might be a bug and can be fix with software update) . I have large hands and the mouse still feels pretty big. The holding down to turn it off is kind of annoying. 8k hertz not even worth it cause it only last 18 hours and you need a good pc. Overall, not worth the price for how much inconveniences there are, but if you want the most accurate mouse, this is the one.
Honestly the sharp ridge on the right side is the thing that makes most razer mice a no go for me. Sure i can place my finger more back but i just don't want to. We all want the perfect shape for our grip and if there are things like that i'm just not gonna use it. Same thing with the dav 3 + no hump support. i don't wanna use it cause i don't wanna change my griiip
Razer is the only company that cares about tall gamers. I always have a hard time finding mices nowadays because all these mices are toddler hand size.
TBH i have a v2, the only complaint I have is the size of the mouse. I can use it just fine but I do wish it was a little bit smaller. I also have a superlight and i prefer the v2 to the superlight. They both need a smaller version.
the v2 pro has been my favorite mouse i've ever used its like it was molded for my hand i also palm grip and the gpx hump feels like it pushes into my palm and the v2 feels like im resting my palm on it which feels so much better....if the v3 pro shape is still the same as v2 then im deff gonna get it
I do kind of a pincer claw where my index finger hits the m1 near the scroll wheel so I hated the way the comfort grooves sloped. Objectively speaking though this mouse is really good.
I have it now, my lamzu fanatic feels so cheap after using this viper v3 pro that looks like a generic mouse but feels so premium from coating and all the buttons. As for the shape,for now it's uncomfortable for me because I used lamzu for 5months.
Peoples hands grip the mouse they use in the best way to maximize (to them) hand to eye coordination and/or comfort. If someone finds the edges sharp thats valid to them and people like them. Did they say the mouse sucked in general? Thats dumb, but how is a persons preference dumb?
Hey boardzy, does mouse switches brake in over time? I think the clicks on mine is too mushy compared to the V2..Should I give me some time to brake in? Would that make it mushier?
I’ve been using the Xtrfy MZ1 Wireless for years and in the market for a new gaming mouse, Ive used the first Viper and considering the V3. Any recommendations to a new/better mice than the MZ1 or is the V3 a must-buy?
my biggest complaint with the gpx was scroll wheel because I prefer a stiffer scroll wheel and the viper v3 pro has that. So I think it's my perfect mouse now. my only real complaint is that the coating is really smooth and slippery. that's just a nitpick though. I threw the side grips on that mf and it's literally perfect.
I switched from Viper 8k, and yes the only problem i have is the side buttons are just bit moved, and its in the way. I never pressed it randomly, but not huge problem. Maybe i just have to use to it, becouse the Viper 8k was needed a year, maybe the Viper v3 pro also needs some time.
whats considered small hands? im 19-10cm. I tried the Viper ultimate and it seemed too flat for me. Currently using a DAV3 and really like it but the higher upm of the viper v3 has me interested
It will feel much larger, so if you're fine with that sure. There are plenty of small mice with high back humps that are good for claw too tho, x2h mini, sora v2 etc
It’s good mouse but wasn’t for me. Surprisingly for me it was the scroll wheel. Its was not as defined as I would like and in the heat of the moment it was very easy to scroll too much because of the steps. Also yeah Razer Opticals just don’t feel good to me. They have improved but they just don’t feel as nice as a omron optical.
I own a variety of high end mouses and never have had side button issues. I think it just varies on what brand you get, batch, and how heavily you use them.
@@bestspykid i own but don't use my viper v2 pro, It doesn't feel comfortable for me. I fingertip grip my mouse mainly but also use claw from time to time and the v2 feels horrible for both imo. I ended up taking it apart and using the internals for the zeromouse. The main thing i dont like about the v2 is how my fingers feel slanted the closer i place them to the scroll wheel.
@@bestspykid im not sure how you hold your mouses but for me i liked lamzu, pulsar, and if i was going for a ergo mouse i used the npo1k or ec3-cw only downside is the ec3-cw is 1khz
@@boardzy It also doesn't sync with the dongle upon system startup, just sits there and flashes at me until I unplug/plug in the dongle again. You're probably right, but man, at $160, I expect things to be perfect out of the box. That is a lot of dollars.
My only complaint is the main 1&2 clicks feel a little too light, even had some accidental actuation on my right click since it's so spammable. Compared to my DAV3 the tensioning is slightly lighter. Maybe its just my copy, curious if anyone else had this issue?
Do you have a black copy? My white unit has clicks that feel very similar to the dav3 actuation force wise, but my black seems similar to yours, albeit not as light
@@boardzy White copy. I typically use the GPX 2 so maybe my finger have built up so much strength from spamming its heavy ass clicks that it makes the Viper v3 feel too light xD.. doesn't really affect my in-game performance after getting used to it, but considering getting a replacement from Amazon and just sticking with whichever feels better.
back in my days gamers were manly man that played Quake 2 with big hands. anime turned the new generation into asian handed
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@@1wall2targets Where?
The mini mouse trend is so fucking frustrating. Any g703 user knows the pain of the last 5 years
final mouse shapes are meta now unc😭
The truth has been spoken. Cute, anime, small products have overstimulated these fragile egos sitting behind their computers.
Bro when boardzy hits that mouse spin, he makes any pad look like a speed pad
This is a fresh hien to be fair
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@@boardzy bro it could be a fresh type 99 and it wouldn't make a difference
@@boardzy is it hien mid ?
Its a soft@@absoluteghost9628
All companies should make a small, medium and large of their og mice. Its a no brainer.
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They are due for a viper mini wireless I will say that
it would make it harder on both, the customer to choose and supplier to supply
This is a good video idea, nice to hear cons straight up
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FYI: The white version has an extra coating on it to keep it from turning yellow. So that's why it feels different than the black version (grippier).
I have been using the Viper V3 Pro for couple of days now and i freaking love it, I already have the viper v2 pro and the DeathAdder V3 pro and it like the both fused and created the the viper v3 pro this mouse is just too good tbh.
the things I would do for a mini...
Hey i have a micro, my ex hates it though :(
They won't make a mini version since it's extra manufacturing space in another factory that will probably not sell very well compared to the normal size, not worth it unless they do market research and find that the demand is actually there. otherwise it won't happen
Compared to the DAV 3 pro, i like the aggressive button indents.
It's lighter, which is also good.
Not sure about the rest though. The inward slope on the right side is odd and tends to push my fingers into the mouse pad, which is annoying and causes drag.
Furthermore, the hump is oddly shaped. It touches the right side of my palm , but not the center.
They need to raise it slightly, widen the hump to fill the palm, and tone down the aggressive inward slope on the right side.
Otherwise it's a really good mouse. The DAV3 is highly competitive, though, and more comfortable.
i like this type of talk about product. gives great insights
Was thinking about buying the v3 pro after buying the v3 hyper speed. I checked out one of those review models that you can try out in store and it was really similar to the v3 hyper speed. The only differences that I noticed was the coating, the censor being placed in the middle of the mouse rather than the front and a huge difference in weight and battery life. The new version has considerably noticeable weight reduction which felt really good to aim with. An issue I have with the new version of the mouse is difference in battery life. The V3 Hyper speed(older) cannot be charged and uses an AA battery or an AAA with an AA conversion kit to reduce weight. With the AA battery you can expect 280 hours of play time at 1000hz polling rate, while the V3 PRO (New) has less than 100 hrs of playtime at 1000hz polling rate. For a casual gamer or someone who values their money I would not recommend paying the 100-150 USD price premium for worse battery life. I wouldn't trade those extra 185 hours of battery life for even 40g weight reduction. Ngl the mouse is not a huge upgrade apart from the weight reduction and the censor placement. It is a good mouse but not worth the money.
Quick tip for all you new Viper v3 pro owners out there. Dav3 skates fit perfectly on the viper v3 pro. I just put an extra set of x-raypad obsidian skates on mine and it’s wonderful!
I have smaller hands, and I aggressively claw. I thought the GPX was the largest size I could comfortably use, but I'm feeling pretty great on the Viper V3 Pro. If they made a mini version, I would instantly buy it, but it is still comfortable for smaller hands. Not dissimilar to the GPX in terms of size. I tried the black coating, and it wasn't much different from the white coating in terms of grip. AimAdapt says actually the black is grippier. I just went with the white because it looks clean and is less prone to fingerprints.
that zowie mico on the desk is a sight to behold
17 cm hand haver here and I love the shape lol. IDK what people are complaining about. Granted, my first good gaming mouse was a sensei ten. Side buttons and coating are excellent for me too.
Did you get the white one?
@@demon6937 I went out of my way to get the white one lol
Came from an HSK, now on a lamzu a mini. Def would b big for me. Before having fun with shapes I jus bought the viper v2 for the specs tho. Good to see theyre still doin well, especially after whatever the hell the cobra was
using both GPX and the V3 Pro, i will say the GPX does feel like a smaller mouse in hand, but the V3 Pro is super solid and im happy switching over
I have till this day Viper Ultimate, and what I like about that mouse and one of the key points for me, is that grip pattern on side buttons.
Dunno why they get rid of that.
The problem with mice like these imo is that if the body is similar to superlight then if your fingers are long enough and you wanna grip your smaller fingers will be rubbing into the pad unless you squeeze your hand which is incredibly unpleasant long term
When comparing to other mice in the future vid, can you add the comparison to the Sora V2? Thanks for the honest reviews as always, based nation!
I actually dont have a copy on hand atm, they are for very different hand sizes/preferences feel
@@boardzy I hoping to see that comparison, is the beast X mouse you have your favorite mouse compared to the Razor Viper v3? I just upgraded my Lamzu Atlantis to the Viper v3 and man this mouse feels huge and restrictive and I have huge hands. I'm going to order the Sora v2 next, I'm a claw/finger-tip hybrid.
Loving mine. ~20x10 hand. Super smooth on a glass pad
I had the superlight 1 before and didn't upgrade hearing the side buttons are the same. I tried the death adder and viper 2 before but the shapes weren't for me. With the viper 3 it feels a lot more comfortable in the hand but I find the superlight's shape to be just slightly better on the bottom left side. Depending on if I try to give it more palm to the body of the mouse I can feel the bottom left side pushing a bit into the base of my thumb which I didn't have an issue with on the superlight. It's not a big deal since it doesn't feel terrible and I can just adjust my grip and have no issue, but that's probably with the longer back hump.
I can't go back to the superlight now though since the side buttons feel awful and the viper has the ones that I like, which are razer's side buttons in general. I don't get a mushy feel or input, I get what I need and my thumb doesn't have to press in harsh. The superlight 1 has mushy side buttons that force my thumb to press against the frame of the mouse. I can feel a bit of my thumb on the edge of the viper v3's side buttons but I don't find discomfort with it and barely notice it or again, just a grip style change to adjust.
My man saw the view count/engagement jump on the viper video and said MORE VIPER CONTENT!
My thumb sometimes accidentally presses the side button when I’m shooting in Valorant. This is definitely something I have to get used to.
No idea if I should choose this or deathadder v3 pro with my 20cm hand.. what do you suggest?
i have large hands and the deathadder v3 twists my hand in a very unnatural position because of its shape
I just purchased this mouse 2 weeks ago and honestly its responsive, I noticed i had a really nice grip to the mouse it doesn't slip with sweaty palms. really fast mouse. feels like good quality
unironically haven't kept a razer mouse in years specifically because of how long the back taper of the mouse seems to always be, all other specs aside
Ergonomics is the concept of fitting the tool to the person, and it doesn't just apply to ergo styled things. So when you tell people to "just move your fk'n finger back" you might be advising them to do something that can cause permanent damage over time putting them in a situation where eventually they only do have the one stable grip style due to said permanent damage. You coulda just said "hey maybe this mouse isn't for you!" I don't think ima watch this dudes reviews anymore. Just another chad on the internet tryin to shill for companies so he doesn't lose his free samples.
Would like you to compare it to the Vaxee Zygen, seeing as some pros are now using that mouse. Thank you dude, love the vids.
The only valid reason why they wouldn't likely make a Mini Viper V3 Pro is that they fucking hate the Viper Mini since it makes their every other mices irrelevant. Which was why they got rid of the Viper Mini, released the Cobras (nobody asked for them), and continued to milk the Viper Mini with the SE edition ($300).
I'm honestly surprised at how well rounded Razer's mouse lineup is. It's not perfect (no real viper mini wireless cough cough.) But considering how Logitech, the other biggest player in the space really only has 1 mouse that's even viable. I would expect most companies to give in the same amount of effort.
1:08 - I bought a Hati-S Ace Wireless two years back cause Razer never made a small wireless mouse.
I swear there's no way they're earning more from the Signature edition than if they just made something they can mass produce. (I hope.)
And btw if you're someone with smaller hands or just want a smaller mouse, the Hati-S Ace Wireless was okay, but it doesn't feel like a top of the line mouse. Works fine for everything except for osu! where for some reason it gains the power of teleportation.
When you turn the Viper into something that’s less accommodating to smaller hands than the Superlight, and yet the Superlight still feels more full in the hand than the Viper for larger hands, you know you’ve done goofed.
Either way, Razer is probably the biggest instigator of the RGB unicorn puke trend in the gaming industry, so I just find them hard to take seriously.
Not my experience at all as a large-handed user and somebody who has used the g pro shape for years and years and years, this viper V3 pro feels much chunkier and wider to me in the hand.
Man if only they made these in a mini version. I switched to ULX cheetah from my rvmse and prefer the size and weight. Definitely prefer optical sensors for the clicks though. By far more reliable when it comes to double clicking issues.
The black version is almost too sticky for me, especially the more clammy the hands get, its almost like glued on my version at least.
Say what you want. The Razer Viper V3 Pro is an amazing mouse. It and my Finalmouse ULX are my two mains for FPS games. Love them both. 1600 dpi, 23 sens in MW3/WZ. Perfect feeling.
Synapse is definitely a part of the product itself. It's one of the reasons I sold my Deathadder V3 Pro.
You don't need it? Lmfao There's also the tournament edition driver.
lol wut
@@FOGoticus There are features I want to use that require Synapse software. My GPX can do the same thing without the bugs.
i think that back hump of gpx and way the front tapers off makes it feel bigger to me than viper v3
Someone from Razer on Reddit said small mouses don't sell well, only in Asia countries do they do well. So it's hard for them to justify making mini version of their mouses.
That was years ago, times have changed and honestly it was cope from them at the time. The cobra doesnt sell well because it was poorly designed
Everything is wrong with Razer's overpriced products. Speaking as a Razer customer.
You not get the high end wireless mouse and you can get affordable wired mouse like the Endgame Gear OP1 8k
Well Logitech is the same way. New keyboards are just out of this world with price to what they offer.
Headset too, 250€ for that mic? Pls… Mousepads bad af. Superlight 2 has minimal improvements.
At least razer improves features amd hardware for the money they ask.
OP1 shape is not for everyone. I had mine but after a week, I sold mine.
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*Everything are wrong with All Big Gaming Brands's overpriced products. Speaking as a Big Gaming Brands customer.
boardzy what is your favorite mousepad for gaming?
I love how this video pops up as soon as I purchase it lmao
I have small hands but the viper v3 pro still feels great in hands. Though I would have preferred a mini version
Back button annoys me because my thumb comes down a slight angle and have large hands. If the buttons had more \ shape instead of [ shape would not be an issue. Installing the grips helped a lot.
It is worth upgrading from a DAV3? They look relatively similar in size
only thing different is the shape, no?
They are different shapes. It's not an upgrade, more of a lateral move..
I'll make a video comparing those 2 mice soon as well. I ultimately prefer ambi shapes despite loving the dav3, and some minor things like lower weight, button height, sensor position. But if you're content with the dav3 shape/experience I don't think this is a necessary upgrade atm
Viper is almost the same, just I less of a hump, and the scroll wheel is a ton better on the Viper.
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I’ve got a Razer viper v 2 pro,is it worth the upgrade?
looking for same question, i just bought v2 pro :D
1000000% yes
Scored the V3 Hyperspeed for a steal at just $60!. V3 Pro is amazing, just too expensive for now.
Which version?
Someone leaked on reddit that one of the pros used dav3 mini prototype so I think it might come soon...
Sounds like the people who are complaining about the shape got NBA hands and they're palm clawing from the top/front of the mouse and refuse to change their grip.
Viper V3 Pro or Deathadder V3 Pro for a 19.2x9.8 hand, claw grip variation? Absolutely confused which to get and need to upgrade from Glorious Model O.
Bro i got the glorious model d, same issue
@@DaEliteGamer117 get the Viper V3 Pro, lighter and lets you play more focused agressive, deathadder wouldve been too relaxed for me personally for my playstyle
@@thepanda145 what about the g pro superlight 2, or the final mouse, or the ninjago mouse or the bougie wougie mouse? i messed up some of the names but ifykyk.
Good video, A question have you checked if this mouse works for the ps5 Slim?
everyone says that razer is listening to their consumers, then ytf arent they releasing a proper viper mini ultimate/viper pro mini
I try every single mouse on the market different feeling with all them with positives and negatives aspect ! And after all I tested the GPX 2 is no doubt still the goat in terms of overall performance it s just insane how this mice work in every single game !
I have superlight original. Was gonna get #2 because my mouse is dying, but ima try this. Amazon lets you return 30 days no questions asked. We'll see how it feels!
How is going with viper V3 proM
Uh they did make a mini Deathadder. The Razer Deathadder V2 mini.
Yes but not a thing anymore.
and i was just about to go to work...
same🤣
I’ve been using the viper for about a week now and idk man I’m so mixed on the shape It just feels like it’s not meant for fingertip grip but at the same time it’s a comfortable mouse it just feels maybe a tad too big. Was kinda hoping they’d keep the old viper shape tbh
the viper v3 pro is way too narrow for my hands, i preferred my superlights shape much more
how does it compare to the ULX large/can you include it in the comparison video?
Yes I will include it, I prefer it over the ULX large, to put it simply it feels like its designed for claw more and I'm fine with the increased weight. Will go into more detail in the vid tho
Question. If i love my viper v2 pro with pulsar v2 superglides on a razer strider pad, do you think ill love this new shape? im a little worried the shape may throw me off
I don’t think it’s worth the upgrade if you already like the shape of the v2. The specs are almost identical apart from a 5 gram weight difference. I’m hoping they make another mouse with the original viper shape in the future.
No, if you love the V2 shape no reason to switch, you can buy 8k dongle separately if you really care about it, got the V2 myself and i see no reason to buy the V3
I just like buying mice so I’d just buy if I were you
@boardzy im looking for a mouse, what ergonomic mouse would you recommend? Thank you!
this vs DAv3?
yeah the size would be the biggest issue 125 mm length is a no go. I feel like 115 mm would the longest i want.
There are a lot of cons with this mouse. You have to open the app every time and it's horrible. There is also a micro adjustment/lift off problem with the mouse (might be a bug and can be fix with software update) . I have large hands and the mouse still feels pretty big. The holding down to turn it off is kind of annoying. 8k hertz not even worth it cause it only last 18 hours and you need a good pc. Overall, not worth the price for how much inconveniences there are, but if you want the most accurate mouse, this is the one.
Honestly the sharp ridge on the right side is the thing that makes most razer mice a no go for me.
Sure i can place my finger more back but i just don't want to.
We all want the perfect shape for our grip and if there are things like that i'm just not gonna use it.
Same thing with the dav 3 + no hump support.
i don't wanna use it cause i don't wanna change my griiip
+ fuck razer synapse
Not a single sensor complaint? Well, it should be a little higher :)
If I’m used to a death adder how does the size compare
theyre basically the same size
Are the original glides good or do you recommend changing them for corepads or something different?
They made a mini deathadder. I have one... wtf i swear boardzy did a review on it before.
Razer is the only company that cares about tall gamers. I always have a hard time finding mices nowadays because all these mices are toddler hand size.
TBH i have a v2, the only complaint I have is the size of the mouse. I can use it just fine but I do wish it was a little bit smaller. I also have a superlight and i prefer the v2 to the superlight. They both need a smaller version.
the v2 pro has been my favorite mouse i've ever used its like it was molded for my hand i also palm grip and the gpx hump feels like it pushes into my palm and the v2 feels like im resting my palm on it which feels so much better....if the v3 pro shape is still the same as v2 then im deff gonna get it
I do kind of a pincer claw where my index finger hits the m1 near the scroll wheel so I hated the way the comfort grooves sloped. Objectively speaking though this mouse is really good.
I have it now, my lamzu fanatic feels so cheap after using this viper v3 pro that looks like a generic mouse but feels so premium from coating and all the buttons.
As for the shape,for now it's uncomfortable for me because I used lamzu for 5months.
i like the shape but its too big for me.... ffs my hand 18cm the vaxee outset ax looks the same shape do you recommend that mouse?
Peoples hands grip the mouse they use in the best way to maximize (to them) hand to eye coordination and/or comfort. If someone finds the edges sharp thats valid to them and people like them. Did they say the mouse sucked in general? Thats dumb, but how is a persons preference dumb?
Hey boardzy, does mouse switches brake in over time? I think the clicks on mine is too mushy compared to the V2..Should I give me some time to brake in? Would that make it mushier?
I’ve been using the Xtrfy MZ1 Wireless for years and in the market for a new gaming mouse, Ive used the first Viper and considering the V3. Any recommendations to a new/better mice than the MZ1 or is the V3 a must-buy?
my biggest complaint with the gpx was scroll wheel because I prefer a stiffer scroll wheel and the viper v3 pro has that. So I think it's my perfect mouse now.
my only real complaint is that the coating is really smooth and slippery. that's just a nitpick though. I threw the side grips on that mf and it's literally perfect.
Razer saw this and said aight, DA V3 Hyperspeed
I switched from Viper 8k, and yes the only problem i have is the side buttons are just bit moved, and its in the way. I never pressed it randomly, but not huge problem. Maybe i just have to use to it, becouse the Viper 8k was needed a year, maybe the Viper v3 pro also needs some time.
For my grip, the sensor was slightly too far back
What’s the closest to a model 0 shape but a top tier mouse? Logitech shape isn’t comfortable tbh
I cant be bothered to sit through another viper mini saga, ill just look for my smaller mice elsewhere
The internal side button designed better not be soldered to the top shell like the dav3 i swear
I have some bad news
@@boardzy dogshit mouse then nobody got the money to be replacing that jawn every 3 weeks cause the small plastic rivets snap
no right side buttons :(
Most people not need right side buttons and so they not make it for people like that.
who uses right side buttons anyways
thanks god fuck lefties
@@seyf633arma players
You probably got this alot but a comparison with DAV3 would be nice
I am confused between Finalmouse Starlight Pro tenz
G pro Wireless Superlight 2 and
Viper V3 Pro for fortnite, what should i get?
I believe they wont make a mini because it will effect sales for the VMSE
You not know that and plus they might be cooking up something for a new Viper mini mouse.
They sell very few vmses per drop and they sell out instantly pretty much, they need a mass market small mouse that isnt the cobra
@@boardzy valid point 🤝
whats considered small hands? im 19-10cm. I tried the Viper ultimate and it seemed too flat for me. Currently using a DAV3 and really like it but the higher upm of the viper v3 has me interested
IMO it felt more like Air58 rather than GPX
Synapse is always the worst part of any Razer product, after the doubleclick and rubberscrolling.
Everything wrong with the op1 8k then? Seems to be a couple things you didn't mention (mainly the scrollwheel being absolute horseshit)
I'm looking to upgrade from my Viper Mini soon, and was considering this as an option. Would this be the direct upgrade or is there a better option?
It will feel much larger, so if you're fine with that sure. There are plenty of small mice with high back humps that are good for claw too tho, x2h mini, sora v2 etc
It’s good mouse but wasn’t for me. Surprisingly for me it was the scroll wheel. Its was not as defined as I would like and in the heat of the moment it was very easy to scroll too much because of the steps. Also yeah Razer Opticals just don’t feel good to me. They have improved but they just don’t feel as nice as a omron optical.
Hey boardzy is it worth it to buy high end mouse because side buttons end up getting double click issues in less than one year which is annoying imo
I own a variety of high end mouses and never have had side button issues. I think it just varies on what brand you get, batch, and how heavily you use them.
@@MikeRodic can you name few of them, im planning to buy viper v2 pro
@@bestspykid i own but don't use my viper v2 pro, It doesn't feel comfortable for me. I fingertip grip my mouse mainly but also use claw from time to time and the v2 feels horrible for both imo. I ended up taking it apart and using the internals for the zeromouse. The main thing i dont like about the v2 is how my fingers feel slanted the closer i place them to the scroll wheel.
@@bestspykid im not sure how you hold your mouses but for me i liked lamzu, pulsar, and if i was going for a ergo mouse i used the npo1k or ec3-cw only downside is the ec3-cw is 1khz
you should try sora v2 its good way better then viper v2 the coating for v2 is bad
Great mouse but immediately started disconnecting while in use. Never again with a first batch. Back to my wired DAV3.
Thats likely some type of synapse bug
@@boardzy It also doesn't sync with the dongle upon system startup, just sits there and flashes at me until I unplug/plug in the dongle again. You're probably right, but man, at $160, I expect things to be perfect out of the box. That is a lot of dollars.
@@refragged now I’m thinking this is all a USB port issue lmao
@@boardzythanks Dad. I checked and Windows 11 had enabled USB selective suspend after an update. Turning this back off fixed the problem. Thanks Obama
hey just wanted to know should i buy the white viper v3 pro if i have hands that are easy to sweat? or should i stick to black and put grip tape on
My only complaint is the main 1&2 clicks feel a little too light, even had some accidental actuation on my right click since it's so spammable. Compared to my DAV3 the tensioning is slightly lighter. Maybe its just my copy, curious if anyone else had this issue?
Do you have a black copy? My white unit has clicks that feel very similar to the dav3 actuation force wise, but my black seems similar to yours, albeit not as light
@@boardzy White copy. I typically use the GPX 2 so maybe my finger have built up so much strength from spamming its heavy ass clicks that it makes the Viper v3 feel too light xD.. doesn't really affect my in-game performance after getting used to it, but considering getting a replacement from Amazon and just sticking with whichever feels better.
yo boardzy is the viper v3 pro a sweaty mouse because grip i need a mouse who is cold on my hands but same shape as viper or gpx