NBC deserves credit for pointing out the discrepancies here. I’m a courts reporter and - to be quite honest - a lot of people in this field would dodge a story like this and tell editors, “let’s just wait for it to play out in court” if we noticed these kinds of inconsistencies. Sort of a complicated conversation, but there is a real (and understandable) fear about writing a story where you’re questioning someone’s narrative after they claim to have been a victim. People who say they’re victims usually are victims, and we’re right to listen and be patient. When you mix in crank lawyers, hotlines, and celebrities, it seems like there’s more opportunity for things to get weird. Either way, the truth matters.
Just like that Lacrosse too from back in the day too huh. You said “ppl who say they are victims are usually victims” What percentage is usually (ppl are victims)?
@@KING_133 vast majority of these reports aren’t against celebrities or college athletes. Usually they’re relatives, spouses, people victims know. To come out and file charges or a suit doesn’t even help them; it creates a lot of new turmoil. There’s not much reason to lie. You open yourself up to intense questioning and, honestly, don’t get much in return. Number of false reports is thought to be around 2-10% but even that can be misleading because “false” can mean different things. Maybe someone says they were picked up at a 7/11 when it was actually a QuikTrip. Or maybe they get the time something happened wrong. Doesn’t mean the whole story is false, though it can be used to discredit them that way.
As a journalist, a radio reporter for the local affiliate of a national radio news outlet, I want to thank you for taking the time to shout out the original reporters that did the work. Thank you for being legit as fuck like that...we are often unsung in many realms even when people use our work to inform their opinion. And keep up the amazing journalistic work you're doing yourself. You're n absolute legend.
It’s important to cite and credit. I’ve been on the receiving end where someone re reports original reporting i have done and doesn’t cite. Right is right. Fair is fair
Please watch Tasha K interview of Jay Z illegitimate child Godmother....why Jay Z doesn't want to do a DNA test?? Even the illegitimate child submitted their sample but Jay Z doesn't want to submit his??
1. Fact. Nobody actually knows what happened except those who were/weren't involved. 2. Nobody should go through getting their name and rep dragged through the mud with THIS level of "evidence". 3. It will continue to happen because there is no real consequence for completely lying vs the possible comeup of hundreds of thousands to possibly millions of dollars. 4. The problem isnt just the system. The problem is also todays society, and the need to rush to judgment to the need to be the first to give an opinion. And society continues to treat opinions as known facts. 5. If Jayz is innocent now....he was innocent last week, the only thing that has changed is a verbal story. No actual evidence has changed. 6. The fact that this was the first "victim" that Buzbee trotted out says something. It may say that Buzbee knows this has always been less about the actual evidence and more about winning the case of public perception. Makes you wonder how many of those Dehsaun Watson "victims" were legit or not.
It's also been pointed out now that both Diddy and JayZ were photographed at different places that day including going home. It sounds like the lawyers did no research into the story
Jay Z after Party was in New York Puffys after Party in Philadelphia a two-hour Commute. Her father also said he would remember a 5hr 20 mins trip to pick up his daughter in New York. Conscious TV has all the filings .Mr Busbee doesn't have a license to practice law in New York he needs to be Disbarred.
I have a daughter that did some messing up around sixteen, I ones had to pick her up from a place she didn't supposed to be at. I remember it as if it was yesterday and also because she now at 42 still apologizes to me about it. The father/daughter discrepancy(s) here is hard to overlook.
Exactly for me that part stood out the most, what dad wouldn't remember something like that. Hell a dad would remember when he picked his kid early from school because of the flu ....years later. How would he forget a 5 hour late night pickup at a gas station. Your mind would be racing wondering if your kid would be safe.
@@RobMarkman let’s get this straight so she jumps out of a window call her father in the middle of the night. He drive five hours to come pick her up and he doesn’t question her and say nothing to her at all drive back five hours in silence yeah OK.
And it was a 5 Hour driveto go pick her up and fivehour trip back home thus a total of 10 hours and he doesn’t recall. And according to her, they sat in silence the entire time.
Playin w these black men lives just shows how little they think of us. i’m not surprised but im glad people can see this shit for themselves. 99% won’t get it tho
It’s actually a 12 hour round trip… 51/2 hours straight through with no bathroom break or traffic or stopping to get gas… with all of that it’s usually a 6 hour drive. I’m from Rochester NY, going to NY (and Canada) was a weekend trip for us lol
@@Rachael-cs9qz If Jay was just gonna pay them off he would've done so when they asked for mediation rather than have his name attached to this disgusting allegation. Not everything is a conspiracy. The truth is most of the time the most simple and boring: She's lying.
@@EliteBlackSash With that kind of Language, Buzbee is distancing himself from his Client Now . He thought Jay would settle the way Diddy did. Wrong...Jay said.. Today I got time Cuzz
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! ANYBODY WITH HALF OF A BRAIN COULD SEE THAT LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. For now the lame Jay-Z haters who wanna see him lose it all because he's been rich for so long have to now go back to their regular life lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Does anyone else find it strange that she keeps referring to Sean Combs as "Diddy," even when recalling talking to the limo driver? At that time, he was "Puff", "Puffy" or "Puff Daddy." Even to this day, if people knew him back then, they still call him "Puff", ijs 🤔
So you just smart out here because I said the same thing almost as she was told to say those name but probably was assaulted just not by them an they coached her
@RobMarkman with everything you stated in the video, wouldn't the gas station clerk be wondering why a 13 year old is out at whatever time in the morning, and where is she staying to wait for her father to drive 5 hours down to the city, then 5 hours back up. Her father would've had to drive 10 hours altogether, with no conversation about why he's doing a 10-hour drive for his 13 year old daughter? Gtefoh
@Rachael-cs9qz so anything other than an autistic woman not remembering the details (potential lies) properly. Are you from nyc? If so you already know her story doesn't add up. She claimed the limo driver was waiting at a parking lot across from the venue. There literally isn't a parking lot across from the venue. Never has been.
If Jay-Z was falsely accused and Buzbee did not do enough vetting then he might as well start looking for another profession because the hammer is going to come down on him heavy.
I really appreciate you bruh you never swayed either way you never jumped on J and you never said the victim was full of it i respect that to the fullest
We still don’t know Jane doe’s full story. She seems to have suffered some past trauma. We don’t fully know her emotional state, it doesn’t excuse it if she’s lying but it’s also not about attacking her, especially if we don’t know the full picture. It seems at this point the lawyer had to be more responsible
Wait a minute did Busbee say he’s gonna continue, “CONTINUE” to vet the story. Sir you should’ve been completed with the vetting of the story before you put pen and paper and signed your name to a lawsuit.
Buzbee is toast. He looks totally like he's incompetent at least. As a licensed professional, turns my stomach to see other licensed professionals not take their work seriously.
@@Rachael-cs9qzStop trying to make this about the father. The other inconsistencies matter as well. This is over before it starts and going to make it harder for true victims. Any lawyer talking about vetting clients at this point are cooked. Jay isn’t Puff and never has been.
@@Rachael-cs9qz Even without the dad's statement the story doesn't add up. Y'all can never just admit when a b is lying. Yall just move from one conspiracy to the next.
She is lying and when I read the suit it was obvious this suot was bogus. I hope Jay-Z sue her, the lawyer and TH-camrs like Tisa Tells that's using their platform to lie, exaggerate and embellish. Thank you as always for having dignity in your reporting.
@@jazzyj904there is nothing there! She called her father and waited 5hrs for him to arrive and he have no recollection of driving 5 HOURS???? She claimed to have engaged the twins from that band and they WERE NOT AT THE EVENT! That's not inconsistencies, that's LYING! Period.
This was clear bs from the beginning. Shout out to Hov and his whole crew, and obviously congrats on the great job. I actually saw you at the opening event for the Book Of Hov in BK last year, should have talked to you but didn’t wanna interrupt a conversation. Dope event. Keep it up man, hopefully we’ll get to chop it up soon.
I’m not sure if she is autistic or not. I saw and heard the video but i don’t wanna theorize and i don’t know if there is an official diagnosis BUT it’s clear buzbee didn’t think this thru.
Where'd you read that she's autistic? I couldn't find anything. From experience, many people don't seem to really care about Autistic people. It sucks!
@@RobMarkman I didn't mean to assume but in her interview she mentioned she was autistic. Not so much against her but I think it provides an interesting shield to the lawyer if he were trying a cash grab. (I agree it's a slippery slope but it makes sense to why Jay seemed to aim at the Lawyer)
Rob, I understand you were being classy and giving the benefit of the doubt . So I’ll ask the tough question, if I’m a dad with ‘issues’ maybe I don’t remember a 10 hr round trip drive ; but wouldnt you remember waiting 5 hours for a parent to come get you and riding home in silence after a traumatic event ? What did you do for 5 hours while waiting ? ?
To that specific point SOME people do block out traumatic experiences from their memory. It’s a coping mechanism. Not giving any credence to this person though.
Today I heard Duke Lacross lady apologized for lying and asking forgiveness. I feel like just with the lacrosse dudes the hate that people have for Jay makes the lie be true. People don't believe it happen more than they hate Shawn Carter.
I’m still trying to get over the Good Charlotte thing. They weren’t a famous group at the time of the 2000s VMAs and definitely weren’t performing. No one on Buzbee’s staff looked into this?
Yeah their first album didn’t even drop till a couple of weeks later. The suit didn’t mention Madden, but she mentioned it to the NBC News during the interview. But it is an ill detail. She remembered Madden and the tat, but then said it was unclear to here. I dunno man.
She was drugged and raped and she was a kid! For God sakes, have some compassion. She’s describing a nightmare! Our brains sometimes purposely forget traumatic experiences as a way of protection. Wonder if diddy remembers all the men women and children he’s raped. video evidence won’t be denied. It’s sad how the public is so unbothered by child rape. Probably the reason that Rape is common in the music business. Thank Almighty God that the government is stepping in. These people are serial killers and child predators. The music business has been a rapist haven for a while and it must stop. It’s crazy how no one is disgusted and shocked about children being attacked and gang banged. 😢 But Angels are watching and mans will is powerless to Gods will. blessings and protection be upon Gods instruments righteousness. Almighty Gods will be done……
@loveulovemeloveuloveme allegedly. You gotta stop believing what you hear just because you heard it. Question it. Question the details of it. Questions both sides. The story didn't make sense at all. I'm from NYC, and I could tell you that by her account, that it couldn't have happened.
@@loveulovemeloveuloveme You just pulled that out you a##. This didn't happen. She's either lying or was coerced into being a part of this clown show. Diddy is a bad person and there's no need to make up false narratives as it does a disservice to the victims and the justice system.
Rob be really citing his sources. Might as well put a bibliography in the description lol real journalism is still alive and thats why this chanel is going to continue to flourish.
Outside of trying to destroy this man for whatever reasons some include( racism, trying to humble this man and his wife, money etc) the sad part is that actual victims will have a lot less to stand on. This story sounded a MESS from start.
1) this means there is no celebrity A,B or C 2) what 13 year old have a bucket list? 3) where the hell she ran to and ran into a gas station in NY? 😂😂😂😂
4) she said she hit Diddy and that's how she got away....so all 3 adults just sat there after she hit him and let her grab her clothes and leave? Lol 5) a random limo driver for a celebrity was out giving 8th graders rides to celebrity parties? Just looking for any kid they saw? Please
I remember when my 13 year old ran away to new orleans from Bk in 99.She wanted to be with lil Wayne and the Hot boys..Had to get on greyhound and get her. She's 38 and we still talk about it.She got to meet them and the Group contacted me immediately. Sent us back on plane. No SA thank God.
Yo....this shit aint happened....wtf...chic files a lawsuit about a fucking nightmare she had....it was nothing but super models and video vixen around Hov ,who the fuck drove her 5 hours to NYC and dropped her off,man stop this bullshit...Hov told you I got lawyers like shooters....sorry for all the real victims but stop this bullshit
‘He doesn’t realize it yet, but, he will soon’ - them private investigators that he hired must know something. Also, the fact the NFL is not budging - I feel like they would have done their own investigation to protect themselves. This is sounding like it’s going to get ugly. It’s really a tragedy anyway you slice it.
lol it’s clear roc nation set up this interview sent nbc to interview her knowing it’ll all fall apart, tony buzabee not sitting next to her in this interview is telling He will quietly leave the case Jay Z is a billionaire theres no Jane doe they know who she is If she’s lucky she remains anonymous to general public otherwise the harassment will be insane
Buzbee is a shakedown merchant. His stmt that another law firm vetted this lady doesn't hold water. He's about the awkward P.R. situation forcing people to pay up.
I love that you mentioned the writers of the article. That was a wonderful acknowledgement and shows the respect you have for your peers and the craft.
We’re in an environment where newsrooms and media in general are being defunded and the work of true journalists are being attacked and ridiculed… just look at the things that Elon is saying, the things that Trump is saying. And in the political sphere is where we need true journalism the most. But in this case yeah, it’s just important to acknowledge that the information I’m citing didn’t just fall out the sky. It’s a result of real work by real people. Sorry for the long response. But i appreciate you!!!
I like that Jay said file CRIMINAL CHARGES! If a bum raped her in an alley she wouldn’t be sueing period! She would use the criminal court but when a man has money they have a price for their pain. They want no jail time and leave the “abuser” on the streets to hurt another woman. Where’s the valor in that? If he hurt you don’t you want him locked away so he can’t hurt others? No sense
Purely for education and not to say what or who is right, wrong, or lying in this case: Statue of limitations for criminal charges in New York is, to my knowledge, 20 years for someone who is 13 at the time of the crime. So if the victim was scared and only wanted to raise charges after Diddy was already in jail they could only raise civil charges at this point, since those don't have the same limitations as criminal. Therefore saying someone in the alleged circumstance should have filed criminal charges is somewhere between a bad faith argument and an argument ignorant of the legal system (and I'm using ignorance as a technical term not an insult).
What mansion sitting on acreage with a U-shaped driveway is within a 20 minute radius of downtown NYC? I’m not from there so I don’t know. And with a gas station nearby.
She lied! This is incredibly sad. I’m sensitive to people being falsely accused, you can mess someone’s whole life up by lying on them with claims like this.
I'm guessing he and/or the lawyers had some kind of knowledge of the victim and realized that it wouldn't be a good look to go after her? Honestly, the snippets made her sound unwell.
He must be and has been just a nice guy ....i don't think so ..I think Daddy got paid to forget ..why has he denied his son all this time ...many are evil and have everyone fooled and anyone who hurts or exploits a child should be locked up
I left a comment on your first video covering this and i said as a father it dont make sense. if she is lying, she needs to be hel accountable. inconsistencies is one thing ... lying is a whole other demon. bout to start looking at Busby with a strong side eye. /bklyn 👑
Yeah, but before her, the lawyer, we don’t know what Jane Doe’s deal is. She could be disturbed and in emotional distress. But the lawyer should be able to properly vet this
Excellent journalism Rob! Thank you for always being objective with the facts while giving measured opinions based on logic. I applaud your professionalism.
How does NBC have access to the Jane doe and her father? That would go against the idea of shielding her, because surely Jay has the resources to get info from NBC before
I can't imagine a friend nevermind the father not remembering a "friend" drive a 13yr old 5hrs with no mention of gas money and then drove herself 5hrs back. This lawyer tried to extort Jay Z there is no sugarcoating this.
The fake encounter with Benji Madden is even weirder. I can't see how she can justify creating a whole conversation with him about his tattoo.. She seems to be mentally sick and I blame the lawyer for using her story without checking any facts.
The more I hear about this case the more it seems like the accuser has definitely been through a lot. I hope she gets the help she needs. At this point it definitely seems like Buzzbee is being very opportunistic and hurting his client more than he's helping her.
i am excited to hear this also. i read the article from NBC. it was nice to hear the stories probably arent true for once. its hard to remember a time where the start who was accused probably didnt do it. i wasnt able to give an opinion before, but now i think he didnt do this.
@@RobMarkman yeah, it's hard to decide how you feel one way or another when it comes to this stuff right now. Jay-Z and Diddy are besties, they vacation together, they have been besties for 20+ years. so, it wasn't farfetched to think that Jay did the same stuff Diddy did. you can't be best friends with someone for 20+ years, go to all the same parties, and everything else, Jay has to know things. also, with all the rumors between jay and bey that she was underage also, and the stuff with foxy brown, the stuff with Alliyah when she waws underage also. he was in love with her.
I've questioned this story from the jump. You can't get dropped off at Radio City Music Hall during the VMAs. I'm from Brooklyn, and I went to every label office and recording studio in NYC since I was 14 years old in 2000. No cars could drive you in and drop you at 6th Avenue (unless you're white and from the suburbs) and even after that, the nearest gas station is all the way by 11th Avenue. There are no nearby gas stations in Manhattan.
Jay z started an entire foundation dedicated to justice reform and has been vocal in sharing stories of miscarriages of the law, like Calvin Broader. To think he would be intimidated into settling is crazy.
The Lawyer is starting to back track now. How you gonna just continue vetting a story but asking for money at the same time. He didn’t think Jay Z would fight back. Unfortunately what this does is give people to think all SA victims are lying. This is a shake down.
You shouldn’t even be able to file this type of lawsuit without evidence, it should be vetted just like in a criminal case nobody should have to go through allegations like this with absolutely no proof it doesn’t make since anyone could say this about anybody to ruin their reputation
Back in 2000 Jay-Z didn't have any pull with any authorities like that. Hip hop was not as popular as it is today. Him and Diddy was still too regular rappers to White America.
I remember every time my child was in any kind of distress.....from scrapping a knee to throwing up at the park. This girl was in a towel at a gas station that required him drive a 10 hour commute....and he doesn't remember that??? So basically, she don't have a soul to corroberate her story, and yet they put this out to the press and filed a complaint. Clearly this woman is mentally challenged. The lawyer needs to be penalized. Im sure Jay's team will be suing him for damages.
Crazy to me how quickly people turned to witch hunting as soon as the allegation was leveled. It was immediately guilty until proven innocent from jump, and people were ready to see him, and really anyone with these allegations hang without a speck of evidence offered or even asked.
This all seems like this lawyer Busby might be trying to hit the pockets of anyone who has a connection with Diddy. He was probably able to get some to pay up, but overplayed his hand coming at Jay. Its very upsetting because there is a group of people that were ready for blood and attention that now will stay silent as the truth comes out
Buzzbee hearing this story and automatically going for a demand letter and a settlement is crazy. This girl should have been taken to the police so this could be vetted The girl is obviously not fully in her right mind and vulnerable to someone making up a story. JayZ and his family should not have had to go through this
At a certain point the burden of proof to file civil suits needs to be rexamined. Feels like there are procedural checks and balances missing and that is clearly dangerous. Another issue here is the lack or journalistic integrity by the platforms who originally broke this story, as it should've never got this far without further investigation. That includes NBC. They should've looked into the allegations more thoroughly before publishing the first story.
I agree with your last remarks Mark. I think the lawyer was banking on Jay tryna settle quietly, and when that failed tried to use public scrutiny to his advantage. I feel like any normal person may have caved in, even if innocent just to not have to deal with that. The inconsistency of her stories is enough to cast reasonable doubt. I understand why Jay didn’t attack. Like you said it does appear as so this woman DID go through something and perhaps was assaulted, but by Jay, that’s still in question. She is a victim and that Buzbee took advantage of given the whole Diddy debacle, and he tried to group in Jay into this lawsuit because he say that there was a niche of people believing he was guilty by association. I think not attacking her or coming at her directly was a wise choice. Just me tho..
They can't even interview the friend who dropped her off who was 20 at the time, because he or she has passed away. Attempts at talking to their relatives by NBC news has been unsuccessful so far. While I can understand that as a father who may have been under certain substances that that could alter your memory of events, she said he was the only person she trusted. Would a father who had to drive five hours to pick you up in the middle of the night not ask what happened? Did she not trust him enough to tell him what happened?
So many inconsistencies! A 13 year old, is 5 hours away from home. The father picks her up, in the early morning hours? No questions? No conversation. She’s a very vulnerable Autistic 13 year old child! My grandson is an 18 years old autistic child, and we try to know his whereabouts at all times. If you don’t have a conversation, you can’t reach her to do better. And her “20” year old friend drops her off at night, by herself, no ticket to attend the event. Huh?!? Did Fred Durst attend the vmas? This story is a whole inconsistent story 💯💯.
It's stories like this that make people who actually go through this not report it Somebody's kid right now is hiding an assault because they don't want to be compared to the Jane Doe who lied
Good reporting, Rob(by). Hopefully the truth will prevail. I would like to think that whatever the outcome, a lesson will be learned. However, something tells me it’s wishful thinking.
I have a seizure disorder too. What does that have to do with her being raped? There’s a lot of things I can’t remember either, but to just say that this didn’t happen to her. It’s kind of crazy.
NBC deserves credit for pointing out the discrepancies here. I’m a courts reporter and - to be quite honest - a lot of people in this field would dodge a story like this and tell editors, “let’s just wait for it to play out in court” if we noticed these kinds of inconsistencies.
Sort of a complicated conversation, but there is a real (and understandable) fear about writing a story where you’re questioning someone’s narrative after they claim to have been a victim.
People who say they’re victims usually are victims, and we’re right to listen and be patient. When you mix in crank lawyers, hotlines, and celebrities, it seems like there’s more opportunity for things to get weird. Either way, the truth matters.
Excellent points and perspective for real
Just like that Lacrosse too from back in the day too huh.
You said “ppl who say they are victims are usually victims” What percentage is usually (ppl are victims)?
@@KING_133 vast majority of these reports aren’t against celebrities or college athletes. Usually they’re relatives, spouses, people victims know. To come out and file charges or a suit doesn’t even help them; it creates a lot of new turmoil. There’s not much reason to lie. You open yourself up to intense questioning and, honestly, don’t get much in return.
Number of false reports is thought to be around 2-10% but even that can be misleading because “false” can mean different things. Maybe someone says they were picked up at a 7/11 when it was actually a QuikTrip. Or maybe they get the time something happened wrong. Doesn’t mean the whole story is false, though it can be used to discredit them that way.
Problem is people didn't wait, they attacked him on an allegation like a ly_ch mob.
She has no circumstantial witnesses No video evidence
This case shouldnt have been out It's a Joke
As a journalist, a radio reporter for the local affiliate of a national radio news outlet, I want to thank you for taking the time to shout out the original reporters that did the work. Thank you for being legit as fuck like that...we are often unsung in many realms even when people use our work to inform their opinion. And keep up the amazing journalistic work you're doing yourself. You're n absolute legend.
It’s important to cite and credit. I’ve been on the receiving end where someone re reports original reporting i have done and doesn’t cite. Right is right. Fair is fair
Please watch Tasha K interview of Jay Z illegitimate child Godmother....why Jay Z doesn't want to do a DNA test?? Even the illegitimate child submitted their sample but Jay Z doesn't want to submit his??
1. Fact. Nobody actually knows what happened except those who were/weren't involved. 2. Nobody should go through getting their name and rep dragged through the mud with THIS level of "evidence". 3. It will continue to happen because there is no real consequence for completely lying vs the possible comeup of hundreds of thousands to possibly millions of dollars. 4. The problem isnt just the system. The problem is also todays society, and the need to rush to judgment to the need to be the first to give an opinion. And society continues to treat opinions as known facts. 5. If Jayz is innocent now....he was innocent last week, the only thing that has changed is a verbal story. No actual evidence has changed. 6. The fact that this was the first "victim" that Buzbee trotted out says something. It may say that Buzbee knows this has always been less about the actual evidence and more about winning the case of public perception. Makes you wonder how many of those Dehsaun Watson "victims" were legit or not.
All valid points
Great points
It's also been pointed out now that both Diddy and JayZ were photographed at different places that day including going home. It sounds like the lawyers did no research into the story
Jay Z after Party was in New York Puffys after Party in Philadelphia a two-hour Commute. Her father also said he would remember a 5hr 20 mins trip to pick up his daughter in New York. Conscious TV has all the filings .Mr Busbee doesn't have a license to practice law in New York he needs to be Disbarred.
I have a daughter that did some messing up around sixteen, I ones had to pick her up from a place she didn't supposed to be at. I remember it as if it was yesterday and also because she now at 42 still apologizes to me about it. The father/daughter discrepancy(s) here is hard to overlook.
Exactly for me that part stood out the most, what dad wouldn't remember something like that. Hell a dad would remember when he picked his kid early from school because of the flu ....years later. How would he forget a 5 hour late night pickup at a gas station. Your mind would be racing wondering if your kid would be safe.
Yeah man. I agree. I would find it very hard to forget that. But who knows what her dad’s deal is. But as a father ? Yeah man. I’d remember
@@RobMarkman let’s get this straight so she jumps out of a window call her father in the middle of the night. He drive five hours to come pick her up and he doesn’t question her and say nothing to her at all drive back five hours in silence yeah OK.
And it was a 5 Hour driveto go pick her up and fivehour trip back home thus a total of 10 hours and he doesn’t recall. And according to her, they sat in silence the entire time.
Her father also said that he wouldn't forget something like that.
Playin w these black men lives just shows how little they think of us. i’m not surprised but im glad people can see this shit for themselves. 99% won’t get it tho
You play with your own life.
Fr, they think they can put anything on a black man but he gone learn today
Unfortunately 99 percent still gone be believing any everything they hear involving our heroes smh!!
Unfortunately the conspiracy theorists won’t care since they hate Jay for whatever reason.
FACTS lol they still tryna find different ways to say he still did it lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣
They hate him because he's a black billionaire.
My bad, multi-billionaire
THAT PART
He’s not a billionaire he’s into shady business
Driving 10 hours round trip!!! No parent would forget that and the child being 13 at the time. The club let her in and gave her a drink she is 13???
It’s actually a 12 hour round trip… 51/2 hours straight through with no bathroom break or traffic or stopping to get gas… with all of that it’s usually a 6 hour drive. I’m from Rochester NY, going to NY (and Canada) was a weekend trip for us lol
If Daddy got paid off he will lie for Jay and doesn't this woman have autism also ???
@@Loyale1229 and she waited 5 1/2 hrs in the gas station alone while her dad got there ? Lol
50 Cent is a lame for trolling Jay on the internet as a 50 year old man…
He did the same to MTS and had to walk it back after the Tory call dropped.
2 cents is just a hater😂
Bruh! Nobody ever calls that dude out for his 🌽🏀behavior!
Bruh! Idk how nobody calls out this guys cornball behavior smh!
Oh don't worry his time coming trust me
I was 13 and got lost hadn’t come home. My dad drove around and found me and up till this day, he still remembers it. He’s in sixties
Did her dad get paid off ???
@@Rachael-cs9qz If Jay was just gonna pay them off he would've done so when they asked for mediation rather than have his name attached to this disgusting allegation. Not everything is a conspiracy. The truth is most of the time the most simple and boring: She's lying.
@@Rachael-cs9qz this is a stupid conspiracy. If you’re gonna pay someone off, you can do it before the story breaks. Otherwise the payoff is pointless
I feel like the lawyers felt he would’ve folded because of the hype around the diddy case but they messed around and found out.
word.. he thought becuase of his and beyonce career he thought he would have paid quick but jay from marcy he all ready been in battle
“We’re still vetting her claims,” is CRAZY Work.
@@EliteBlackSash With that kind of Language, Buzbee is distancing himself from his Client Now . He thought Jay would settle the way Diddy did. Wrong...Jay said.. Today I got time Cuzz
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!
ANYBODY WITH HALF OF A BRAIN COULD SEE THAT LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
For now the lame Jay-Z haters who wanna see him lose it all because he's been rich for so long have to now go back to their regular life lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣
HOV WINS AGAIN THEY WANT TO HATE THIS MAN SO BAD AND ITS OUR OWN PEOPLE SO SAD
Does anyone else find it strange that she keeps referring to Sean Combs as "Diddy," even when recalling talking to the limo driver? At that time, he was "Puff", "Puffy" or "Puff Daddy." Even to this day, if people knew him back then, they still call him "Puff", ijs 🤔
Possibly. A lil strange. But i don’t think that proves anything.but i see what you’re getting at.
So you just smart out here because I said the same thing almost as she was told to say those name but probably was assaulted just not by them an they coached her
Exactly
He was puff daddy : diddy he did it! 😂
This attorney is so screwed, Jay Z better sue for defamation because the allegation is going to affect his businesses
He’s already on it.
Defamation and disbarment. Plus he is not licensed in NY he falsified court papers.
So jay is innocent ?
@@dalitsombewe1492no, but this he is innocent
@@kennethcook3127what crime have you ever witnessed jay z commit with your own eyes ?
I want all victims to be protected, but this story made noooooo sense off rip .
Same.
@RobMarkman with everything you stated in the video, wouldn't the gas station clerk be wondering why a 13 year old is out at whatever time in the morning, and where is she staying to wait for her father to drive 5 hours down to the city, then 5 hours back up. Her father would've had to drive 10 hours altogether, with no conversation about why he's doing a 10-hour drive for his 13 year old daughter? Gtefoh
Daddy get paid too lie
@Rachael-cs9qz so anything other than an autistic woman not remembering the details (potential lies) properly. Are you from nyc? If so you already know her story doesn't add up. She claimed the limo driver was waiting at a parking lot across from the venue. There literally isn't a parking lot across from the venue. Never has been.
If Jay-Z was falsely accused and Buzbee did not do enough vetting then he might as well start looking for another profession because the hammer is going to come down on him heavy.
We’ll see. Feels like there has to be a penalty for this tho
It's looking bad for Buzbee.
Jay taking this all the way he ain't the one to play with yall watch it's just about to start ❤
People don’t just make up big allegations like that … they used to hang together it’s very possible that he’s guilt will see what the court says
@@dalitsombewe1492”people don’t just make up stuff” are you serious or are you pretending?
I really appreciate you bruh you never swayed either way you never jumped on J and you never said the victim was full of it i respect that to the fullest
We still don’t know Jane doe’s full story. She seems to have suffered some past trauma. We don’t fully know her emotional state, it doesn’t excuse it if she’s lying but it’s also not about attacking her, especially if we don’t know the full picture. It seems at this point the lawyer had to be more responsible
@RobMarkman facts
But isn't it obvious 🤔 😅 u seem upset 😅😅😅
Great breakdown my boy. Hov said he not done. He gonna get homie shut down
Between this and Drake, hip hop got you in your law school bag
Maaaaaan
I’m ready for the bar!
Wait a minute did Busbee say he’s gonna continue, “CONTINUE” to vet the story. Sir you should’ve been completed with the vetting of the story before you put pen and paper and signed your name to a lawsuit.
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Buzbee is toast. He looks totally like he's incompetent at least. As a licensed professional, turns my stomach to see other licensed professionals not take their work seriously.
If Daddy got paid off to play dumb
@@Rachael-cs9qzEven then, her story has multiple significant issues. He’s probably telling the truth.
@@Rachael-cs9qzStop trying to make this about the father. The other inconsistencies matter as well. This is over before it starts and going to make it harder for true victims. Any lawyer talking about vetting clients at this point are cooked. Jay isn’t Puff and never has been.
Buzbee needs to be disbarred and jailed for multiple charges, including taking advantage of a disabled person.
13 year old kid getting picked up by her pops in the middle of the night , and he don't remember?
Right. A 5 Hour drive to go get her and five hours to get back home and they sat in silence.
Yeah and according to Google the VMA’s in 2000 was on a Thursday so a weekday, school day, work the next day…….
Did he get paid to not remember
@@Rachael-cs9qzNo lol.
@@Rachael-cs9qz Even without the dad's statement the story doesn't add up. Y'all can never just admit when a b is lying. Yall just move from one conspiracy to the next.
I honestly appreciate your coverage on hip hop and the culture
Tony Buzbee will definitely lose his license.
Sounds like the other firm didn’t even want to touch that by they knew this greedy lawyer would.
I don’t know what their deal is. But yeah something is up it seems
She is lying and when I read the suit it was obvious this suot was bogus. I hope Jay-Z sue her, the lawyer and TH-camrs like Tisa Tells that's using their platform to lie, exaggerate and embellish. Thank you as always for having dignity in your reporting.
I try. And i may not always get it right. But i try to find the truth where i can. And be as fair as possible
Inconsistencies and lying aren’t always the same thing. There can be something there but we may not know to the T.
@@jazzyj904there is nothing there! She called her father and waited 5hrs for him to arrive and he have no recollection of driving 5 HOURS???? She claimed to have engaged the twins from that band and they WERE NOT AT THE EVENT! That's not inconsistencies, that's LYING! Period.
@@jazzyj904there is no inconsistency, she's lying. Period!
This the best comment I read finally !! Thank you for leaving that comment I thought it was only me thinking that way
I smelled bullshit from the beginning😂story didnt make any sense
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So tired of greedy ppl masquerading as victims. Which leads to ppl questioning the real victims, and their credibility.
Stop. People question victims even when they have evidence in their face. Let’s not make this ridiculous comment.
This was clear bs from the beginning. Shout out to Hov and his whole crew, and obviously congrats on the great job. I actually saw you at the opening event for the Book Of Hov in BK last year, should have talked to you but didn’t wanna interrupt a conversation. Dope event. Keep it up man, hopefully we’ll get to chop it up soon.
Omg the fact her dad from alabama and said he aint remeber none of this is wold. Jay needs to sue everyone including these blogs
My theory: Lawyer found her real quick and knew her being autistic would shield him from a counter suit.. He aint slick at all..
I’m not sure if she is autistic or not. I saw and heard the video but i don’t wanna theorize and i don’t know if there is an official diagnosis BUT it’s clear buzbee didn’t think this thru.
Where'd you read that she's autistic? I couldn't find anything. From experience, many people don't seem to really care about Autistic people. It sucks!
@@RobMarkman She said she had autism on 1 minute mark. But yeah, whoever lying here is extremely manipulative. And buzbee def didnt do his job
@@RobMarkman I didn't mean to assume but in her interview she mentioned she was autistic. Not so much against her but I think it provides an interesting shield to the lawyer if he were trying a cash grab. (I agree it's a slippery slope but it makes sense to why Jay seemed to aim at the Lawyer)
That won't help her. Autistic don't mean retarded, she did this with malicious intent
Rob, I understand you were being classy and giving the benefit of the doubt . So I’ll ask the tough question, if I’m a dad with ‘issues’ maybe I don’t remember a 10 hr round trip drive ; but wouldnt you remember waiting 5 hours for a parent to come get you and riding home in silence after a traumatic event ? What did you do for 5 hours while waiting ? ?
Yeah i mean if it was mean i dont know how id forget that
To that specific point SOME people do block out traumatic experiences from their memory. It’s a coping mechanism. Not giving any credence to this person though.
Chose the wrong dude 🤦, Tony Buzbee needs to be investigated. There's even more possibility he has coached clients, even short-changed them on the 💰.
Yeah. I have a feeling their gonna launch an offensive on him
I mean 5 hours each way that's a very long drive
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Today I heard Duke Lacross lady apologized for lying and asking forgiveness. I feel like just with the lacrosse dudes the hate that people have for Jay makes the lie be true. People don't believe it happen more than they hate Shawn Carter.
Duke Lacrosse players lose everything. They were vilified.
I’m still trying to get over the Good Charlotte thing. They weren’t a famous group at the time of the 2000s VMAs and definitely weren’t performing. No one on Buzbee’s staff looked into this?
Yeah their first album didn’t even drop till a couple of weeks later. The suit didn’t mention Madden, but she mentioned it to the NBC News during the interview.
But it is an ill detail. She remembered Madden and the tat, but then said it was unclear to here. I dunno man.
She was drugged and raped and she was a kid! For God sakes, have some compassion.
She’s describing a nightmare!
Our brains sometimes purposely forget traumatic experiences as a way of protection.
Wonder if diddy remembers all the men women and children he’s raped.
video evidence won’t be denied.
It’s sad how the public is so unbothered by child rape.
Probably the reason that Rape is common in the music business.
Thank Almighty God that the government is stepping in. These people are serial killers and child predators.
The music business has been a rapist haven for a while and it must stop.
It’s crazy how no one is disgusted and shocked about children being attacked and gang banged.
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But Angels are watching and mans will is powerless to Gods will.
blessings and protection be upon Gods instruments righteousness.
Almighty Gods will be done……
@loveulovemeloveuloveme allegedly. You gotta stop believing what you hear just because you heard it. Question it. Question the details of it. Questions both sides. The story didn't make sense at all. I'm from NYC, and I could tell you that by her account, that it couldn't have happened.
@@loveulovemeloveuloveme You just pulled that out you a##. This didn't happen. She's either lying or was coerced into being a part of this clown show. Diddy is a bad person and there's no need to make up false narratives as it does a disservice to the victims and the justice system.
Rob be really citing his sources. Might as well put a bibliography in the description lol real journalism is still alive and thats why this chanel is going to continue to flourish.
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Agreed
Every one deserves to be listened to. But not everyone deserves to be believed.
The father doesn’t remember driving 5 hours to a gas station to pick up his 13 year old daughter????? Nope 👎 I don’t believe it.
Outside of trying to destroy this man for whatever reasons some include( racism, trying to humble this man and his wife, money etc) the sad part is that actual victims will have a lot less to stand on. This story sounded a MESS from start.
1) this means there is no celebrity A,B or C
2) what 13 year old have a bucket list?
3) where the hell she ran to and ran into a gas station in NY? 😂😂😂😂
4) she said she hit Diddy and that's how she got away....so all 3 adults just sat there after she hit him and let her grab her clothes and leave? Lol
5) a random limo driver for a celebrity was out giving 8th graders rides to celebrity parties? Just looking for any kid they saw? Please
13 year olds have 🪣 lists?
She never told the friend/pimped who dropped her off in Manhattan?
I remember when my 13 year old ran away to new orleans from Bk in 99.She wanted to be with lil Wayne and the Hot boys..Had to get on greyhound and get her. She's 38 and we still talk about it.She got to meet them and the Group contacted me immediately. Sent us back on plane. No SA thank God.
Have you been to NYC? There are gas stations all over the place
They been slamming Hov all week. Jaguar Wright, everyone. Where are all the "We're sorry Hov" videos?
The videos will come when Jay z starts suing
Ok HOV about to get the last laugh
Jay didn’t do this but he’s not completely faultless in how he moved with Kells and Diddy
@ if you don't get the hell out of here with that nonsense.
Yo....this shit aint happened....wtf...chic files a lawsuit about a fucking nightmare she had....it was nothing but super models and video vixen around Hov ,who the fuck drove her 5 hours to NYC and dropped her off,man stop this bullshit...Hov told you I got lawyers like shooters....sorry for all the real victims but stop this bullshit
‘He doesn’t realize it yet, but, he will soon’ - them private investigators that he hired must know something. Also, the fact the NFL is not budging - I feel like they would have done their own investigation to protect themselves. This is sounding like it’s going to get ugly. It’s really a tragedy anyway you slice it.
Just unfortunate
I think this is the same lawyer with the Deshaun Watson stuff. The NFL KNOWS HIM VERY WELL!!!
lol it’s clear roc nation set up this interview sent nbc to interview her knowing it’ll all fall apart, tony buzabee not sitting next to her in this interview is telling
He will quietly leave the case
Jay Z is a billionaire theres no Jane doe they know who she is
If she’s lucky she remains anonymous to general public otherwise the harassment will be insane
Buzbee is a shakedown merchant. His stmt that another law firm vetted this lady doesn't hold water. He's about the awkward P.R. situation forcing people to pay up.
I love that you mentioned the writers of the article. That was a wonderful acknowledgement and shows the respect you have for your peers and the craft.
We’re in an environment where newsrooms and media in general are being defunded and the work of true journalists are being attacked and ridiculed… just look at the things that Elon is saying, the things that Trump is saying. And in the political sphere is where we need true journalism the most. But in this case yeah, it’s just important to acknowledge that the information I’m citing didn’t just fall out the sky. It’s a result of real work by real people.
Sorry for the long response. But i appreciate you!!!
I like that Jay said file CRIMINAL CHARGES! If a bum raped her in an alley she wouldn’t be sueing period! She would use the criminal court but when a man has money they have a price for their pain. They want no jail time and leave the “abuser” on the streets to hurt another woman. Where’s the valor in that? If he hurt you don’t you want him locked away so he can’t hurt others? No sense
Purely for education and not to say what or who is right, wrong, or lying in this case: Statue of limitations for criminal charges in New York is, to my knowledge, 20 years for someone who is 13 at the time of the crime. So if the victim was scared and only wanted to raise charges after Diddy was already in jail they could only raise civil charges at this point, since those don't have the same limitations as criminal. Therefore saying someone in the alleged circumstance should have filed criminal charges is somewhere between a bad faith argument and an argument ignorant of the legal system (and I'm using ignorance as a technical term not an insult).
Filing criminal charges this long after the fact wouldn’t do much as there is no evidence to pull from. And there are statutes of limitations
I liked that you said the journalists names. People will attack when journos are wrong but not celebrate when they do a good job.
They deserve the credit for their work for sure
Tony Buzbee should be disbarred
What mansion sitting on acreage with a U-shaped driveway is within a 20 minute radius of downtown NYC? I’m not from there so I don’t know. And with a gas station nearby.
NYC apartments are mansions
She lied! This is incredibly sad. I’m sensitive to people being falsely accused, you can mess someone’s whole life up by lying on them with claims like this.
There’s no winners at all. Either you have a victim for real or someone who is falsely accused.
I feel you.
I'm guessing he and/or the lawyers had some kind of knowledge of the victim and realized that it wouldn't be a good look to go after her? Honestly, the snippets made her sound unwell.
Yeah.
Those aren’t holes in the story, they are craters. I knew from the jump the story was unbelievable.
Rob shouting out journalists is how you know he's a real journalist.
She needs to wear a t shirt saying I lied and tried to destroy peoples lives
Jay z is innocent not guilty. when i first said jay z is not guilty, i got backlash. Jay z did not do what woman claim.
Thank you I sad the same from the start JayZ didn’t do it
He must be and has been just a nice guy ....i don't think so ..I think Daddy got paid to forget ..why has he denied his son all this time ...many are evil and have everyone fooled and anyone who hurts or exploits a child should be locked up
I left a comment on your first video covering this and i said as a father it dont make sense.
if she is lying, she needs to be hel accountable.
inconsistencies is one thing ... lying is a whole other demon.
bout to start looking at Busby with a strong side eye.
/bklyn 👑
Yeah, but before her, the lawyer, we don’t know what Jane Doe’s deal is. She could be disturbed and in emotional distress. But the lawyer should be able to properly vet this
I'm hoping that whatever the truth is it comes to light and justice is served.
Excellent journalism Rob! Thank you for always being objective with the facts while giving measured opinions based on logic. I applaud your professionalism.
I feel like if this really happened to you you should report it immediately even it’s a celeb not wait for 20-30 years
Facts
Buzbee needs to be in jail
How does NBC have access to the Jane doe and her father? That would go against the idea of shielding her, because surely Jay has the resources to get info from NBC before
She reached out to them. With her lawyers there. The interview took place with her lawyers present.
The goat , we early
I can’t believe that lawyer said he thoroughly investigated the claims 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
I can't imagine a friend nevermind the father not remembering a "friend" drive a 13yr old 5hrs with no mention of gas money and then drove herself 5hrs back. This lawyer tried to extort Jay Z there is no sugarcoating this.
The fake encounter with Benji Madden is even weirder. I can't see how she can justify creating a whole conversation with him about his tattoo.. She seems to be mentally sick and I blame the lawyer for using her story without checking any facts.
The more I hear about this case the more it seems like the accuser has definitely been through a lot. I hope she gets the help she needs. At this point it definitely seems like Buzzbee is being very opportunistic and hurting his client more than he's helping her.
i am excited to hear this also. i read the article from NBC. it was nice to hear the stories probably arent true for once. its hard to remember a time where the start who was accused probably didnt do it. i wasnt able to give an opinion before, but now i think he didnt do this.
Yeah the picture is becoming clearer now. It’s crazy to think this all unfolded in a matter of a week too.
@@RobMarkman yeah, it's hard to decide how you feel one way or another when it comes to this stuff right now. Jay-Z and Diddy are besties, they vacation together, they have been besties for 20+ years. so, it wasn't farfetched to think that Jay did the same stuff Diddy did. you can't be best friends with someone for 20+ years, go to all the same parties, and everything else, Jay has to know things. also, with all the rumors between jay and bey that she was underage also, and the stuff with foxy brown, the stuff with Alliyah when she waws underage also. he was in love with her.
LOOK JUST BEING HONEST, IT’S GONE BE SOME HOLES IN A STORY FROM 30 YEARS AGO
For sure. But these are some concerning inconsistencies
To the court of public opinion!. Please STOP!. Let ppl have their day in court first!! 🤦🏽♂️
How can a 38 year woman be 13 in 2000 that math not calculating.
Yes it is, depending on the birthday.
2024-2000=24
13+24=37
14+24=38
It does you just can’t count lol
Are tv stations or reporters allowed yo interview victims/plaintiff before they go to court
Yes. Unless the court rules otherwise. In this case they haven’t yet.
Love your channel Rob keep the good work up ❤
Thank you
Shame on Tony Buzbee..the interview was embarrassing.
Phone records should be able to verify the call the call made to her father that night. I bet that call was never made.
Or Daddy got paid to forget
@@Rachael-cs9qzdid the other artist get paid ? Did you hear all this ? You want Jay z to be guilty so bad ? You 🤡s need help fr
I've questioned this story from the jump. You can't get dropped off at Radio City Music Hall during the VMAs. I'm from Brooklyn, and I went to every label office and recording studio in NYC since I was 14 years old in 2000. No cars could drive you in and drop you at 6th Avenue (unless you're white and from the suburbs) and even after that, the nearest gas station is all the way by 11th Avenue. There are no nearby gas stations in Manhattan.
Jay z started an entire foundation dedicated to justice reform and has been vocal in sharing stories of miscarriages of the law, like Calvin Broader. To think he would be intimidated into settling is crazy.
The Lawyer is starting to back track now. How you gonna just continue vetting a story but asking for money at the same time. He didn’t think Jay Z would fight back. Unfortunately what this does is give people to think all SA victims are lying. This is a shake down.
Yeah it seems to be a real blow to real victims.
You shouldn’t even be able to file this type of lawsuit without evidence, it should be vetted just like in a criminal case nobody should have to go through allegations like this with absolutely no proof it doesn’t make since anyone could say this about anybody to ruin their reputation
Are polygraphs still taken seriously in the legal system in 2024?
Back in 2000 Jay-Z didn't have any pull with any authorities like that.
Hip hop was not as popular as it is today. Him and Diddy was still too regular rappers to White America.
I remember every time my child was in any kind of distress.....from scrapping a knee to throwing up at the park. This girl was in a towel at a gas station that required him drive a 10 hour commute....and he doesn't remember that???
So basically, she don't have a soul to corroberate her story, and yet they put this out to the press and filed a complaint. Clearly this woman is mentally challenged. The lawyer needs to be penalized. Im sure Jay's team will be suing him for damages.
Like I called it…the story never made sense and everyone with an iota of a brain cell knew it. Why pander?
Crazy to me how quickly people turned to witch hunting as soon as the allegation was leveled. It was immediately guilty until proven innocent from jump, and people were ready to see him, and really anyone with these allegations hang without a speck of evidence offered or even asked.
These things unfortunately get tried in a court of public opinion. It’s not right. But that’s just the reality we live in
@@RobMarkman yeah, wild times. much respect for navigating through it with honesty and balance tho brotha
This all seems like this lawyer Busby might be trying to hit the pockets of anyone who has a connection with Diddy. He was probably able to get some to pay up, but overplayed his hand coming at Jay. Its very upsetting because there is a group of people that were ready for blood and attention that now will stay silent as the truth comes out
Buzzbee hearing this story and automatically going for a demand letter and a settlement is crazy. This girl should have been taken to the police so this could be vetted
The girl is obviously not fully in her right mind and vulnerable to someone making up a story.
JayZ and his family should not have had to go through this
I can't say it for a fact BUT I got a feeling Jaguar put that lawyer on this.
They thought he would settle
She lost most credibility with this not gone lie.
In that interview looking like the ghost of "Carolyn Bryant" past. Out here trying to Emmett Till Jay Z in 2024.
More than apologies are owed to jay z his family and his mom
With this lawyer losing all credibilty do you think it will significantly help diddys case?
Overall, I don't know if this helps Diddy's Fed case. He has actual criminal charges.
At a certain point the burden of proof to file civil suits needs to be rexamined. Feels like there are procedural checks and balances missing and that is clearly dangerous. Another issue here is the lack or journalistic integrity by the platforms who originally broke this story, as it should've never got this far without further investigation. That includes NBC. They should've looked into the allegations more thoroughly before publishing the first story.
Buzbee is so desperate! How did you vet this Mr. Buzbee? THE PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW NOW! 🥊
……. I’ve heard and seen the interview all of this is bs and Jay Z needs to sue
I agree with your last remarks Mark. I think the lawyer was banking on Jay tryna settle quietly, and when that failed tried to use public scrutiny to his advantage. I feel like any normal person may have caved in, even if innocent just to not have to deal with that. The inconsistency of her stories is enough to cast reasonable doubt.
I understand why Jay didn’t attack. Like you said it does appear as so this woman DID go through something and perhaps was assaulted, but by Jay, that’s still in question. She is a victim and that Buzbee took advantage of given the whole Diddy debacle, and he tried to group in Jay into this lawsuit because he say that there was a niche of people believing he was guilty by association. I think not attacking her or coming at her directly was a wise choice. Just me tho..
Yeah. We’re on the same page with this one
So far I'm not believing anything at all about these allegations...I'll continue to wait and see what else we learn
Once she is revealed, people who know her will chime in and possibly add more clarity to her history and character.
They can't even interview the friend who dropped her off who was 20 at the time, because he or she has passed away. Attempts at talking to their relatives by NBC news has been unsuccessful so far. While I can understand that as a father who may have been under certain substances that that could alter your memory of events, she said he was the only person she trusted. Would a father who had to drive five hours to pick you up in the middle of the night not ask what happened? Did she not trust him enough to tell him what happened?
Wow just wow
So many inconsistencies! A 13 year old, is 5 hours away from home. The father picks her up, in the early morning hours? No questions? No conversation. She’s a very vulnerable Autistic 13 year old child! My grandson is an 18 years old autistic child, and we try to know his whereabouts at all times. If you don’t have a conversation, you can’t reach her to do better. And her “20” year old friend drops her off at night, by herself, no ticket to attend the event. Huh?!? Did Fred Durst attend the vmas? This story is a whole inconsistent story 💯💯.
It's stories like this that make people who actually go through this not report it
Somebody's kid right now is hiding an assault because they don't want to be compared to the Jane Doe who lied
Good reporting, Rob(by). Hopefully the truth will prevail. I would like to think that whatever the outcome, a lesson will be learned. However, something tells me it’s wishful thinking.
I have a seizure disorder too. What does that have to do with her being raped? There’s a lot of things I can’t remember either, but to just say that this didn’t happen to her. It’s kind of crazy.