FG42 & 1935A - DB2020 - Day 2 & Finale - Classic Auto
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- Karl, Ian and Mike discuss Desert Brutality 2020, Day 1 (Stages 1-3) in Classic Auto division, with Ian running a FG42 and a French 1935A pistol.
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The world is STILL waiting on the Face reveal of Weapons Outfitters....
Guess it's not Kit Badger?
@@marzcapone9939 no, Weapons Outfitters is a company in Washington (i believe) and he has been keeping his face a secret for a while. But he has a bunch of awesome products and apparel on the website. I highly recommend giving it a look. Good Pro-2A people and amazing products on their site.
nope though Weapons Outfitters sponsored him...and he did reveal his face...to those of us who were there...even gave out calendars
ok that explains everything
@@03forgotten Yeah, WO is in Washington. He's good people but tries to make his social media about the product and not the personality. He also knows where some mean dumplings are in WA.
There's certainly no question when 8mm slams that steel.
6:46 Ian's cosplaying as WWII French Resistance, but he could also be cosplaying as Jamie Hyneman from MythBusters 😁
commandZee I was think the same thing
Not enough mass, Jamie is a big boy :)
Clearly just an ad for french hats and FG-42's
🤣
The beret mon amie....
Barry McCaulkener yeah I might buy an FG-42
That is the most straightforward example of target fixation I've ever seen. Much appreciated for the footage.
That intro is like a PS1 character talking to a PS2 character.
Well that's an interesting ad method
*lame
@@rebeccafishlock226 because how dare they give air time t the companies that sponsored the event? OK then......
@@bishopsteiner7134 Hey no shade to inrange for hosting it, just to the ad director of WEAPONoutfitters that its lame haha. Its not like karl is the ad exec.
@@kevinjameswhite Well damn, can't fault you there!
@@rebeccafishlock226 what's lame about not wanting to get doxxed?
That ad at the beginning was priceless. Kudos to whoever thought of it!
That bloody Frog stole my Fallschirmjägergewehr.
Ian : missed
Coach guy : hit
Ian : Well ok whatever you say
So I did hear right
that was a very marginal edge hit, but you can still hear the target ring, so definitely fair enough
@@_f355 Honestly it might have been in the next bay over. In person it was a bit hard to tell sometimes and once I had a moment of panic when people were down range on our stage and I started hearing steel being hit. After half a second I realized people were just making solid hits in the next bay over, not ours.
RO has say.
There was an "I'll give you that" tone in the ROs voice.
I had no idea Karl was a ventriloquist.
That explanation of target fixation was very interesting. I was wondering why Ian continued to hit the body after the head popped up.
Kit Badger in the ad? Makes sense for outfitters given how he shot two divisions in the same suit!
long shots with the fg42 with iron sites impressive.
"Existence is meaningless"- jacques the ffi fighter
Bloke's example of a wingman following his leader into a crash reminded me that when I was a kid, I got autographs from all of the USAF Thunderbirds pilots at an air show near my hometown. A few months later, they lost the _entire diamond formation_ (four aircraft and all their pilots) in just such an accident, during preseason training for the next year's shows. They were practicing a formation loop, the leader's stabilizer jammed and prevented him from pulling out at the bottom, and the other three followed him straight into the ground.
I am really enjoying the shooter/day style of presenting the stages.
"We considered fair and decided against it"
Solid
I liked that sponsor presentation. Fun and original even though it kept the same basic format.
The Russian Roulette "stage" is the InRange equivalent of the blue koopa shell.
HALO 2304 Every one of us that did it shot it like the gun was going to explode in our hands...the flinch was HUGE!
@@znutar No doubt. You expect it to go off so when it doesn't... !FLINCH! (And you feel like a noob.)
@@znutar I liked Ian's "who gives a crap" attitude lol
@@SgtKOnyx he's the only one who didn't care...when Karl came down for last call for it many people where really having a hard time deciding. Convinced one of my teammates to do it and he benefitted but boy did he hem and haw about it.
@@znutar Thinking about this again, I think the stage really helped encapsulate what Karl's intentions appear to be, that at the end of the day it's not you competing against anyone other than yourself. Though I suspect it will not be done again?
I realized immediately that Ian doesn't see the head and almost shouted at my screen. I would if not the reflexes I developed with the stupid no-coaching policy at the IPSC matches I usually attend.
Huge fan of WWI aviation. Not surprised but very happy to hear
The FG 42 is quite the remarkable rifle even with all its flaws. I wonder what can be done to improve it.
Simplify operating system to (significantly) improve durability and reliability and (slightly) reduce cost. In other words, make a Stgw 57.
That’s bubba talk, careful
@@jic1 the F.ASS 57 isn't really a FG 42, the action is closer to that of the MG45 if my memory serves well
@@quentintin1 You mean it had a simplified operating system, like I said?
Zf41 on top and that's it
Is Ian ambidextrous? His right hand pistol shooting genuinely impressed me, it was so smooth and natural, it felt like he wasn't even a leftie.
this is a very enjoyable match to watch and live vicariously through
That target fixation is actually honestly really scary if you think about it. That's something I really hope I never experience in a real world situation.
Sukki Blue Using target fixation, tunnel vision, whatever to set up an ambush is sometimes called a “ mud suck”, a viable tactic.
@@jeffreyroot6300 It's frequently used in competitive games as well, usually called baiting if I'm correct.
Sukki Blue Makes sense!
God knows I have crashed a few planes because of it. Thankfully in a game.
Its a thing. Iv got slotted in FoF because I KNEW where one guy was and didn't think about flanking.
13:39 Ian's "ah!" in realization was foreboding in hindsight.
Literally first shot after is the hit
Man, the report from firing that FG-42 mist be very distinctive, I bet a lot of people were watching Ian's runs. Does the thought of "This is really cool that I'm using [gun] in this match" tend to sit in the back of your mind or does it just turn into another rifle once the clock starts?
I bet that if the gun is not finicky then It's just another rifle. Karl didnt had that luxury
This is the best dubbing I've seen since Speed Racer was on the air!
I didn’t get my holster closed on that run. Still didn’t fall out. Was both scared and dumbfounded
20 points ahead of Karl with the lever-action rifle. It's interesting how that turned out.
Apparently the reason is that manual had lower round counts
@@SgtKOnyx That is extremely simplistic. There are many significant differences between the weapons, the shooters and their performances that in the end played out this way.
@@SgtKOnyx As one example, how did the rifle round count affect Ian's not noticing the Mini-Mozambique target's head was up? That cost Ian several penalties.
@@MarvinCZ Mate. Karl scored highly because he is extremely competent, but he also was in a division with different rules. Ian had some flubs, but is also a competent shooter, and together they are near one another in overall match score, ignoring the different rules. It's funny to joke about, but it doesn't really mean anything.
@@SgtKOnyx See, if you wrote that in your first comment, I would just agree.
Me - /*You know that face your dog pulls when it hears a sound it doesn't understand*/
I paused and reloaded the video...
I like that the range is also an aerobatics training area. It's like the little tiny island for misfit toys.
"You are a gazelle," Karl says sardonically
That was super fun to watch, even with Ian's target fixation.
22:50 88nd(?) of 212
Kit Badger already working on another channel to be known as Mime Badger
As a left handed shooter, I love that Ian is left handed and points out stuff that right handed people have no concept of.
Excellent Guys! Thank you.
Rich.
To be fair to Ian, I'm watching a video at home on my couch and didn't see that head go up lol
As a fellow competitor of mine once said, the timer is the neuralizer from Men in Black, once it beeps, you forget the last 5 minutes and your stage plan.
I *looove* seeing the FG42 in action.
Good showing, guys, etay safe.
Rare moment where Ian TECHNICALLY bested Karl in a match (if we choose to ignore the whole different class and hobbling that Karl did to himself). Ultimately, I think Karl's position in the match says far more about his ability than it's a detriment to Ian's.
Dang! 92nd place for Karl is pretty amazing.
Especialy when Ian is 88th with the 70 year younger automatic rifle
And Ian came in "88nd", which is next-level non-Euclidean. :)
Best commercial intro until now.
That is one of the coolest guns!
The bipod looks like it helps quite a bit actually...
12:44 who replaced Ian with a Stormtrooper.
"Coronavirus-party"
We training for zombie outbreak matches?
I thought the Russian Roulette was very cool too, but of course I got a click. Had I gotten a bang, I might feel different.
I got a bang and was a little salty not going to lie haha
I get why they did it though. It is all in good fun and didn't hurt my enjoyment of the match at all.
@@GhostlyTurtle Per my understanding the point is how well you did against yourself, not anyone else.
It was optional though, yes?
The sound of 7.92 mauser through that muzzle device....epic.
Brian Nelson is a beast. Final 494 in Classic, what gear did he run?
M1 carbine for rifle, I don't recall his pistol.
@@MOATargets tbh from the videos I`ve seen so far, the most time was wasted on pistol targets, so the pistol would be really interesting. :D
My question exactly!
@@MOATargets He must have had one of those magical reliable M1 Carbines that Karl has heard about!
Browning High Power.
He’s a Grand master USPSA shooter, excellent with any pistol he uses.
Ah for the good old days; 2020 was a bad year for me, I buried both my sisters who were taken from me by cancer, then my wife developed the dreaded disease and was gone in a few months so I sort of blanked out the world on her loss, it was a few months before I climbed out of my depression, I finally got back to the swing of things when I started seeing blood in my urine, seems cancer was after me as well, they cut out my right kidney and now I have been cancer free for a couple years. thanks for showing me what I missed when I was below the root. I have gained back some weight, funny how cancer can thin a fellow down, hell I was back at my fighting weight under 200 pounds for the first time since Vietnam.
Ian, I was just as fixated on the target as you were. I didn't notice that the head came up until just before you did...and I'm at home not on the clock. I had to re-watched just to see when it went up. I thought it went away like the other type.
Nice to see Kit Badger
Nice flying in the background :)
Good going Ian!
So it was a PanzerFauxst
Heh
This video gave me spicy nostalgia
The weapons outfitters intro was awesome
Did ya'll have a mic downrange? The metal hits were excellent, but the gun firing sounded really soft. Really neat way to record!
Gun shots are too loud for the mics, so they are built with an automatic cut out to protect them. The 8mm hitting the plates makes a nice definitive ring that the mics pick up well but isn't too loud for the equipment.
@@colemanmoore9871 Makes sense, thanks!
omg, that intro with kit badger is great!
I have seen a motorcyclist go off their trail and fall due to fixating on the ditch while trying to avoid it.
I remember taking a motorcycle racing introductory course and they said something to the effect of, "don't stare down what you want to avoid". They were teaching us to keep looking through the turn, because they said you will go where your eyes take you.
@@mlukas28 wow, the human brain has some scary moments built in.
Target fixation is a bad thing for motorcyclists, I have several things on me that don't work properly and a friend or two that didn't get off so lightly.
Ian - "I couldn't tell when I got the head up." Michael Scott - "That's what she said!" haha
Also, watching Ian carry the bazooka tube in one are and hand carrying his rifle made me think "Hmm, the carry handle on an M4 doesn't seem so silly now!"
Karl - I really like your takes on specific on the spot western shoot out history. Don't forget Canadian, Mexican and South American ones ;o)
Pls put a close up of the targets in the corner of the screen?
gun jesus is excellent with the fg42. and his pistol shooting also excellent.
18:15 Obviously not the same thing, but I've done exactly that in a game or two. Don't pull up quick enough after a certain point and your boned no matter what you do. Just can't change direction fast enough for it to matter.
i wonder if the Japanese ever attributed pilots who died crashing into their target due to tunnel vision as kamikaze pilots.
7.92mm for that extra GONG effect. :)
Revener666 I think he had the new production in .308
@@kgb3559 well it is not that differnt when you look at the numbers .)
I watch this and curse being disabled. Shooting matches like this looks like SO much fun.
Just out of curiousity, do you have alternate methods for those crawling obstacles, like circle them twice? I couldn't possibly get under that.
I think the in range rule of deciding against fair would mean you'd have to work until you could fit
There were guys in my squad who couldn't get under it with all their gear and ended up lifting/throwing it up and over them. There was no rules that they had to stay on the ground I guess!
How can you not like Mitch he's absolutely diabolical, and a little unhinged
Interesting to see how close Ian and Karl times were despite the difference in kit, though a good bit of that looks like all the penalties Ian racked in that last stage.
I'd really love to see a run from the guy that won classic with an m1 carbine, that has to be interesting.
That was Brian Nelson, a world-class IPSC competitor. He was blazing fast.
@@ForgottenWeapons with a time almost half of you and Karl's, Brian must be a whirlwind.
That guy with the black tie is an amazing ventriloquist!
Yeah really weird guy
@inrangetv you guys added Russian roulette to the match? So what your saying is there is a chance someone could beat @sinistralrifleman ?
Yes.
ghostriderskulls I did not win either division I competed in 2020. There were many peer level shooters and better at the event this year. And this is a good thing. I like the competition and attracting higher level shooters means the event is being taken seriously by a wider audience in addition to the core that are here for fun with their friends.
I was Match coordinator first and competitor second this year. The biggest success for me was running an event with 200+ shooters on schedule where almost everyone enjoyed themselves.
The video is cool and all but i just noticed the planes doing acrobatics in the background pretty sick, but also strange doing it so close to a range.
Ian, can you modify your holster ( I believe that's a repro? ) by riveting a tab of bent spring steel under the flap so it stays somewhat closed when not 'locked' with the leather tab?
Even a strong neodymium magnet might to the job to keep the handgun in place.
Just for a light jog, mind.
What’s going on in the background? Is someone flying a biplane around and the shooters are trying to hit it?
Jeez lol did you have the Reno air races in the background?
Airport next to range. Can’t do anything about it.
there is a RC plane field right next to the range.
Was actually kind of cool to watch the people fly them in between stages
@@InrangeTv They must have been pretty busy to be that noisy. But I like both airplanes and firearms so I would have loved it there lol
@@InrangeTv Sounded like someone was performing airobatic maneuvers in the background (think I caught sight of the plane doing it near the end of the ad there.)
@@InrangeTv Did any of the shooters complain about the noise? Being a pilot and an avid firearms enthusiast, it's always puzzled me how people move next to an airport and then bitch about noise abatement. In this case, it's like a little piece of heaven for a misfit toy like me.
How is the shot sound damping done while recording? I mean you can hear everything very clearly, steps, loading, even breathing, and relative to that, the rifle sounds very silent. Is this natural in the open, because the camera is behind him, or is there a recording trick to it?
Ian messing up the Mini-Mo is the only reason I was able to get 2nd place over him.
I’m still trying to figure out how to pronounce 88nd
"Coronavirus Party" lol
1:35 woah wtf is that plane doing in the background
FG-42 skills will come in handy for when the space Germans invade.
Hey Ian, you beat Karl. Don't think too much about the fact that he was only 4 places behind you using a lever gun though
Did you have many disqualifications on the Panzerfaust stage?
IIRC there were very few DQs, maybe 5 or 6 total out of over 200 people. Honestly the only one I personally saw was on unsafe handling of the pistol when putting it in the bucket at the end of the mini-mo portion.
Overall IMO the match was run very well with ROs giving good coaching to make sure everyone stayed safe and shooters doing a great job in general of safety awareness.
Chasmodius only 1 that I am aware of out of 201 competitors
Ian Mc-Colluuuuuuuum!
He dips beneath tank traps!
Woah-ohhhh!
I really enjoyed that ad ^_^
I've shot 1935A pistol with its pivoting trigger and Ian really gets good results given its poor trigger.
Sounds like you had to deal with 5 o'clock Charlie the entire time on both days.
I'm not 100% sure about this but wasn't the Russian Roulette thing suppose to remove a penalty? I'm fairly sure the on screen charts indicated 5 penalties, assuming 60 per penalty.
The stage was scored as +60 or -60, not as a penalty itself.
@@InrangeTv Well yes, but Ian was marked as 300 under penalties, which is 5, but he said in the vid that the Russian Roulette reduced his penalties to 4. So shouldn't he have been marked down as 240?
Darren Jacobson it shows all penalties, in the final math it’s removed by the bonus column on stage 7. You’re seeing a cropped screen shot of the scores. You can look for them on Practiscore if you like.
I wonder if Ian had been using a dot for that MOA target, he wouldn't have fixated so much on the center plate?
So is patreon a reliable, 2A friendly donating site? I've heard they sometimes delete gun related pages.
15:52 look how much live cartridges are on the floor.
I wonder why? Loading mags? Clearing malfs?
@@spearspearspear That is where everyone cleared their rifles after completing the stage. Since this was Ian's squad's last stage, there were at least two (and as many as five) squads of people clearing their rifles there.
GhostlyTurtle makes sense.
Damn the sponsor for this one looks like he's in the Matrix voluntarily just to do gun matches
hey yall, When can we expect a WW1 and WW2 Knife test?
Bloke on the range is UÇK today.
88nd? :D what's that
Now that is a next level add but slightly off tho
At first I thought there was a problem.