Considering the general prediction that you were gonna complete the match but place dead last, the fact that you took first in your division is already impressive but infinitely more so that you finished as high as you did overall. Well done sir, and point well made about the lever gun truly being the first assault rifle.
As a european kid who grew up watching cowboy movies and playing outside etc., Karls choice of arms makes it extra entertaining for me. Thanks Karl :-)
But not in this random circumstances I use to hide in where the rules are made up by someone who don't care of what is safe but just give the a feeling of being important so I'm offended.
With the final results , I have to say: when it's time to do manual gangsta stuff, you gotta bring karl Really fantastic performance and great fun to watch.
I'm going to come dead last... then comes first and it 545.22 ahead of second place, you Sir smashed it out off not only the park but the city! Amazing shooting, skill and ability to manage the stress and adapt! A true example of everything you say about shooting at events and ensuring you just keep going. Bravo!
The camerawork was just incredible in this video. Keeping it steady while running and riding the quad, and even using wide angles and close zooms to good effect. It was a pretty great viewing experience.
You should make a video igniting the same powder charge and observing how black powder appears from distance to an opponent in different backgrounds. I think would be fairly straight forward and super interesting.
Impressed as always with your skill, but even more your demeanor. You're a class act Karl and I'm proud to be one of your Patreon supporters. Fun video and a great after action synopsis.
Playing read dead redemption and from a video game perspective, lever actions gave me the edge! Thanks Karl for letting me live vicariously through you! Outstanding job!
Enjoyed your perspective on the match, and looking forward to seeing the other guy's runs. Seems like each of you chose a different classification, which makes it that much more interesting
To the the uninformed. *Military quality* "it must be high quality". To the informed. *Military quality* at least it will get the job done. To the well informed. *Military quality* Whose military and what kind of unit?
Arturo Ramirez: i would add to the last one: and why did they choose it. (sometimes it's down to money available, sources available, manufacturing available, corruption, personal feelings of a deciding person...)
@@parker2121 I saw some strange names in the Navy. One girl was an E3 and her last name was Tester. Seaman Tester. A guy I was in boot camp with last name was Dick. His dad was a retired major in the Marines. This other guy was an interior Communications specialist, IC1.....Boner.
Accidentally skipped ahead while watching the beginning and was greeted with the sight of a cowboy running with a rocket launcher and a lever gun while being filmed from an ATV. My day has been made. 😂
Love the bit on first aid training and medkits...I've held and updated my St johns first aid cert since I was 8...so 39 years now, I have a first aid kit in my work bag, my car and at home and I know how to use it... I don't carry a gun as its illegal in my country but I always have a pocket knife and a first aid kit and they have been used so much, I have performed first aid on myself and multiple people over the years and I would recommend some form of first aid training...even if its so you know what not to do and when to leave things alone
Karl, I love this stuff you've been putting together lately with respect to Old West arms. I've gotten into black powder shooting, but come from an IDPA background. Cowboy Action doesn't really appeal to me and I've been dying to do something similar.
Is there a video explaining the scoring table? I understand lower total number is better, but how and what the 75 and 180 mean are mysteries to me. Is there info on what each shooter used? I'm kind of curious what was being used, especially in Classic and Retro.
The 75 is bonus time for throwing the kettle bell the full 50 yards in stage two. The 180 is penalty time at 60 seconds per missed target at the end of a stage.
October 5, 1864; Battle of Allatoona Pass. At a crucial point in the battle, a small company of the 7th Illinois armed with 16 shot Henry Rifles crushed a battalion of Rebs and kept the Union lines secure. The Confederates were forced to withdraw and Sherman's march into Georgia resumed.
Rockets were a thing by the war of 1812 (♪ _rocket's red glare_ ♫) but were almost entirely used for naval warfare, so if someone had gotten their fill of seagoing and decided to flee to the desert they might be familiar with the concept.
I was under the impression that the weapons you pick for this match had to be between a certain time frame as well as be used in an actual conflict. I can see the time frame is correct, but which conflict involved people using lever actions and 1911s? Are we thinking of the American prohibition era?
Classic division includes any firearms that existed before 1946, with nothing to do with any specific conflict. If you watch the DB2020 intro video you'll see that we discuss that in the 1915-1930 period of time, a 1873 and a 1911 would be a very common combination in the "New West".
Ive been thinking through this... If you were in 1911-1920 (able to buy a 1911 easily) would your 44-40 still be loaded with black powder or did they switch to smokeless by that point?
Quick research indicates smokeless .44WCF first showed up in the Winchester catalog in 1895, I'd guess Karl used black/substitute for the added challenge.
Good to know. I was just wondering if for historical accuracy one would have too. I think he would've dominated even more with a smokeless load but would've been more boring to watch without any malfunctions and more hits to be honest.
@@RobinRobertsesq that may very well be because many post civil war guns were still around at the turn of the century. Heck, even in modern days I personally know people who rely on the grandad's WWII trophy pistol for home defence 😅😅😅
Wasn't the practice back in the door was to pour water down the barrel to wash black powder fowlling out to restore accuracy? Would that work with the black powder substitute? Or did you clean after after each stage?
Puts his finger in front of the muzzle of an unloaded gun, expecting freakouts. People need to learn that there is a real difference between real-world safe and range officer safe, they aren't always the same thing, and neither one is really better in all situations.
Now im really, really wanting a lever action, iv been wanting to get a 357 Magnum with a 24 inch barrel. I reload an I want to see what is possible with 357 Magnum and see how far it can really go before accuracy goes out the window
During the rocket launcher stage couldn't you just not load the next round (not cycle the gun) and have the gun considered a stick since you were in the manual division?
This batch of videos is making me real tempted to snag a peep sight for my Savage 99, even if they cost like 200 bucks for a fucking tiny piece of metal...
A savage 99 would be an interesting gun for this. It’s easier to load than a Winchester 95. I really thinking the 99 carbine would ha r been great for them Canadians in the trenches
In my (limited) experience, the 99 is functionally a weird bolt-action. It’s every bit as big, heavy, and hard-recoiling as a Mauser and the action is nowhere as smooth as a Winchester (or a Marlin). And I shudder to think of what mud would do to the rotary mag. Though, the box mag version might be a different story.
Could you have completed the stages with a pair of 1898 Colts instead of a 1911? You mentioned the Wild Bunch and the last one to be caught was armed with a Winchester 1910 and a pair of Colt 45s. A pair of 1898s would simplify your logistics as you would be 45LC only.
Considering the general prediction that you were gonna complete the match but place dead last, the fact that you took first in your division is already impressive but infinitely more so that you finished as high as you did overall. Well done sir, and point well made about the lever gun truly being the first assault rifle.
Just moved out of a ban state, many people agree with Karl that a good quality lever gun is a great alternative to a more modern semi auto.
I am dissapointed with the lag of good comparison with a bolt gun in the same course (BotR wink wink)
As a european kid who grew up watching cowboy movies and playing outside etc., Karls choice of arms makes it extra entertaining for me. Thanks Karl :-)
As someone who was a kid that grew watching old west tv shows it makes me glad to see karl doing the lever gat justice
I'm gonna say it louder for the people in the back, A FIRED ROUND IN A CLOSED MANUAL ACTION IS VERIFIED CLEAR.
But not in this random circumstances I use to hide in where the rules are made up by someone who don't care of what is safe but just give the a feeling of being important so I'm offended.
With the final results , I have to say:
when it's time to do manual gangsta stuff, you gotta bring karl
Really fantastic performance and great fun to watch.
I'm going to come dead last... then comes first and it 545.22 ahead of second place, you Sir smashed it out off not only the park but the city! Amazing shooting, skill and ability to manage the stress and adapt!
A true example of everything you say about shooting at events and ensuring you just keep going.
Bravo!
Thank you very much for your kind words!
That would be awesome if cowboy action shooting started going in this direction
I agree.
Hell yeah!
LOL..too many shooters over 65! Big matches these days get significant numbers over 70!
p.S. Have you tried the Wild Bunch match???
@@trooperdgb9722 Hey, can't those guys have fun, too?
The horse pulling that buckboard you were following had some digestive issues.
Yeah you could hear it's stomach rumbling! You need to feed your horse properly before matches!
They had cars during the 1920s, which is what Karl is portraying.
The camerawork was just incredible in this video. Keeping it steady while running and riding the quad, and even using wide angles and close zooms to good effect. It was a pretty great viewing experience.
awesome stuff karl, cant wait to see bloke and ian's stages
that wasn't a small gap you were dramatically faster
Karl, you are a total badass! Loved this format, and can't wait to see Ian and Mike's runs.
You should make a video igniting the same powder charge and observing how black powder appears from distance to an opponent in different backgrounds. I think would be fairly straight forward and super interesting.
Holy shit 92 out of 212 with a lever action??? You did amazing Karl, seriously
The second stage also proves that you can use a lever gun from the prone. Don’t know where that came from but it’s stupid.
Impressed as always with your skill, but even more your demeanor. You're a class act Karl and I'm proud to be one of your Patreon supporters. Fun video and a great after action synopsis.
I really love this format of focusing on each person’s run through the event with commentary after each stage.
I'm a little confused by 99th place finisher 21:48.
He is a sweet guy, trust me.
Some people started using aliases just to troll the TH-cam audience
@@SinistralRifleman That is fantastic!
I look forward to Desert Brutality videos all year - thanks guys! This stuff rocks. Can't wait to see Ian's and Mike's videos.
6:30 - I love how you can see bullet fly in the air!
Yeah, I used to love Hicock's long range black powder video's, so awesome to see the actual trajectory of the slug.
Playing read dead redemption and from a video game perspective, lever actions gave me the edge! Thanks Karl for letting me live vicariously through you! Outstanding job!
Enjoyed your perspective on the match, and looking forward to seeing the other guy's runs. Seems like each of you chose a different classification, which makes it that much more interesting
Happy to see that Maple Syrup made it into the top 100. Well done!
To the the uninformed. *Military quality* "it must be high quality".
To the informed.
*Military quality* at least it will get the job done.
To the well informed.
*Military quality* Whose military and what kind of unit?
TH-cam comments sections would be completely dead if more people understood military procurement
Arturo Ramirez: i would add to the last one: and why did they choose it. (sometimes it's down to money available, sources available, manufacturing available, corruption, personal feelings of a deciding person...)
@@nirfz Oh yeah. Just look at the history of the lewis gun. All sorts of personal grudges there.
To the galaxy brain.
Ah, yes, made by the lowest bidder.
Simple universal rule of non special forces arms procurement is not that's good but it's good enough
I really can't wait to enter a few years from now hopefully. And almost definitely come dead last in my soviet conscript cosplay :D
Love the Zoom on the targets! I really like when we can see the target you are shooting at! Amazing run👍👍👍👍
Is that one guy actually named Maple Syrup or are you allowed to alias?
I hope it's the latter case, because otherwise, that poor guy went through hell in school - and god bless his poor soul if he was ever military
@@parker2121 I saw some strange names in the Navy. One girl was an E3 and her last name was Tester. Seaman Tester. A guy I was in boot camp with last name was Dick. His dad was a retired major in the Marines. This other guy was an interior Communications specialist, IC1.....Boner.
I got a cousin in the navy named Seaman Sailor so it’s possible that’s his real name. But I hope an alias as well
@@danieldunlap4077 I remember a guy said a the whole crew and the officer from a ship started laughing after they called for seaman shower
A LEO from my home town name is Red Turnipseed
This is probably my favorite desert brutality video so far! 🤘
Accidentally skipped ahead while watching the beginning and was greeted with the sight of a cowboy running with a rocket launcher and a lever gun while being filmed from an ATV. My day has been made. 😂
They just left those bodies in the trenches from day one
Just like WW1.
I just figure the "rocket launcher" is a barrel swap for a light field gun.
"The internet recommends that you miss faster" 10:01
Love the bit on first aid training and medkits...I've held and updated my St johns first aid cert since I was 8...so 39 years now, I have a first aid kit in my work bag, my car and at home and I know how to use it... I don't carry a gun as its illegal in my country but I always have a pocket knife and a first aid kit and they have been used so much, I have performed first aid on myself and multiple people over the years and I would recommend some form of first aid training...even if its so you know what not to do and when to leave things alone
Excellent job, Karl. Now for the truly pressing query: Is this the first time Karl has kept his hat for the entire tournament? :P
I guess you could say Karl's "pretty good"(props to people who get the reference) to be able to finish were he did vs modern weapons and optics.
Karl and his ammo belt rolling around on top of that conex sounded like an earthquake in a hardware store. :)
Congratulations on those scores!
Karl, I love this stuff you've been putting together lately with respect to Old West arms. I've gotten into black powder shooting, but come from an IDPA background. Cowboy Action doesn't really appeal to me and I've been dying to do something similar.
Is there a video explaining the scoring table? I understand lower total number is better, but how and what the 75 and 180 mean are mysteries to me.
Is there info on what each shooter used? I'm kind of curious what was being used, especially in Classic and Retro.
The 75 is bonus time for throwing the kettle bell the full 50 yards in stage two. The 180 is penalty time at 60 seconds per missed target at the end of a stage.
"Groin shots are good in armour."
I believe the Finnish phrase is "Tulta munille!"
Going down that manual scoreboard was just a progressively harder "oof"
SgtKOnyx the ledger of suffering
I don’t suppose you'd care to share where you got that hat? I've been looking for one like that but they appear to be a rare breed.
One of the stores in Tombstone, AZ.
@@InrangeTv ah cool, thanks!
3:44 ...The US Army was using Hale rockets in the 1840's against Mexico.
I was going to comment this. Pretty sure they were used quite a bit too.
Aussie here, Ned Kelly was captured after being shot in both legs and immobilised due to that.
I'm really liking this format.
amazing stuff
4:30 when you're getting your ass kicked in Age of Empires so you "upgrade" your troops
Dang cowboy guns !
Blame all those hollywood produced western moving pictures.
Karl's clothes for this event make me wish I had been alive back in the day.
No reason you couldn't dress like that today, unless you work in a bank, I suppose. :)
They'd think I was a robber lol
@@ZGryphon just live somewhere cold.
21:48 Nice nom de guerre the 99th dude went with.
October 5, 1864; Battle of Allatoona Pass. At a crucial point in the battle, a small company of the 7th Illinois armed with 16 shot Henry Rifles crushed a battalion of Rebs and kept the Union lines secure. The Confederates were forced to withdraw and Sherman's march into Georgia resumed.
You’ve done WWSD, any ideas how Comrade Kalashnikov would have done had he access to current parts? Lighter, stronger, etc?
I'm not super well versed in the history of AK development, but that sounds like it would be an AK-103 (or any rifles in the 100 series)
The overlooked answer to ammo supply was giving the best marksman the designated lever rifle. The SMG/DMR of its day.
Hey guys, thank you for “tuning in” again to InRange TV... 🙂
don't touch that dial
Rockets were a thing by the war of 1812 (♪ _rocket's red glare_ ♫) but were almost entirely used for naval warfare, so if someone had gotten their fill of seagoing and decided to flee to the desert they might be familiar with the concept.
Rockets have been around for centuries, usually used as signals instead of weapons.
I was under the impression that the weapons you pick for this match had to be between a certain time frame as well as be used in an actual conflict. I can see the time frame is correct, but which conflict involved people using lever actions and 1911s? Are we thinking of the American prohibition era?
Classic division includes any firearms that existed before 1946, with nothing to do with any specific conflict. If you watch the DB2020 intro video you'll see that we discuss that in the 1915-1930 period of time, a 1873 and a 1911 would be a very common combination in the "New West".
I liked the “one hit” “one ping vashily, one ping”
What's that from? Enemy at the Gates or Hunt for Red October?
@@chaskaryan7228 Red October.
Do you have any discussion regarding the gear you were competing with in manual? (Eg enfields, straight pulls, pump, etc)
Great job Karl!
Congratulations Karl
Great video, Karl
i've actually been meaning to get some medical training, thanks for the reminder
shout out Maple syrup in kalashnikov divission
He's a sweet guy
I love my Marlin, but really makes you wonder what could of been achieved with something like a Savage 99 musket.
Anyone else notice there’s a person named Maple Syrup at 21:49?
Seeing you use cowboy guns on these kinds of courses is awesome! More of this!
Ive been thinking through this... If you were in 1911-1920 (able to buy a 1911 easily) would your 44-40 still be loaded with black powder or did they switch to smokeless by that point?
Quick research indicates smokeless .44WCF first showed up in the Winchester catalog in 1895, I'd guess Karl used black/substitute for the added challenge.
Good to know. I was just wondering if for historical accuracy one would have too. I think he would've dominated even more with a smokeless load but would've been more boring to watch without any malfunctions and more hits to be honest.
Well, maybe smokeless powder 44s were available, but I can see the case where you have a brand new pistol and your grandad's old black powder rifle...
Many old ammunition catalogs are available on the net. You will see black powder cartridges listed alongside smokeless into the 1920's.
@@RobinRobertsesq that may very well be because many post civil war guns were still around at the turn of the century. Heck, even in modern days I personally know people who rely on the grandad's WWII trophy pistol for home defence 😅😅😅
They enforced 180 even with hammer down on empty brass on that stage where you had to move uprange?
They didn't need to, I shot the stage that way intentionally.
@@InrangeTv Not enough challenge for ya, eh?
Lever action asmr. ;) Congratulation of winning your division.
Congrats Karl!
Wasn't the practice back in the door was to pour water down the barrel to wash black powder fowlling out to restore accuracy? Would that work with the black powder substitute? Or did you clean after after each stage?
As an Australian, it pleases me that the legend of Ned Kelly is even known internationally.
Australian brutality, do all the events in home made iron armour
There are at least two examples I can think of in the Civil War where small amounts of soldiers with leveraction guns dominated the battle.
What ammo belt does Karl recommend? I need one for my 1892 but don’t know what belt to get.
"It's a big ol'tube of StuUuUuUuff." Legit spit coffee out of my nose.
Puts his finger in front of the muzzle of an unloaded gun, expecting freakouts. People need to learn that there is a real difference between real-world safe and range officer safe, they aren't always the same thing, and neither one is really better in all situations.
7:00 But the action was left closed after firing a cartridge, so did the 180 really apply here?
Per our rules, technically no.
That's a neat way to reuse a stage setup. :)
Looks like it was a damn challenging and fun match.
Love to finaly see the match! Was worth every minute waiting.
When does the Finnish Brutality sign up start?
Fantastic job! Love me some levers
That was great Karl. Well done. In the first competition in this video, people were talking. Is that ok? Or is it considered rude like golf?
I'm curious what the other 8 Classic Manual shooters were using. All military bolt actions?
Yes.
wow those stages are a mile apart, looks like a fun challenge though
Re. rocket launcher comment around 3.59, what date were Congreve rockets? I think that they were around by 1870.
Now im really, really wanting a lever action, iv been wanting to get a 357 Magnum with a 24 inch barrel. I reload an I want to see what is possible with 357 Magnum and see how far it can really go before accuracy goes out the window
so what were the others in classic manual shooting?
During the rocket launcher stage couldn't you just not load the next round (not cycle the gun) and have the gun considered a stick since you were in the manual division?
Yes, could have done that. I kept with the spirit.
would the gun have work better with black powder if it had a hexagonal twisted barrel instead of the classic rifle groves ?
Did anyone show up with a light machine gun?
Yes
I think he also had to do a reload on this stage too
that 1873 lever gun is just satisfying
Even with the bell on I don't get notification for new vids. Lucky me checking my channels manually...
This batch of videos is making me real tempted to snag a peep sight for my Savage 99, even if they cost like 200 bucks for a fucking tiny piece of metal...
Karl is there an explanation for what happened at 10:45?
everyone before this desert brutality:
new cameraman: "I ain't competing, so I ain't runnin'. get me an ATV!"
I'm betting for reset speed the next shooter rides up to the start line in the atv with the rocket launcher.
xthetenth correct
How many total shooters to better gauge final result? Good shooting made me want a lever action even more haha.
Corey Simmons 201 finished the match
A savage 99 would be an interesting gun for this. It’s easier to load than a Winchester 95. I really thinking the 99 carbine would ha r been great for them Canadians in the trenches
In my (limited) experience, the 99 is functionally a weird bolt-action. It’s every bit as big, heavy, and hard-recoiling as a Mauser and the action is nowhere as smooth as a Winchester (or a Marlin). And I shudder to think of what mud would do to the rotary mag. Though, the box mag version might be a different story.
Maple Syrup ????
Could you have completed the stages with a pair of 1898 Colts instead of a 1911? You mentioned the Wild Bunch and the last one to be caught was armed with a Winchester 1910 and a pair of Colt 45s. A pair of 1898s would simplify your logistics as you would be 45LC only.
It's thanks to extra history that I got the new Kelly reference.