Civic Type R Failures + Upgrades for Abuse
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This Honda Civic Type R has already had its Flywheel, Clutch, Transmission, and Cats replaced under warranty. Let's dive into some small things you can do to improve the reliability of your CTR. Today we just look at improving the shifter feel using Acuity Instruments products, but soon we will be installing improved cooling systems and heat reflective tape to avoid boiling the clutch fluid.
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I own the 2018 type R. I've had no transmission problems and 0 problems whatsoever with the car. 5300 miles. The car's been bulletproof so far.
You'll be alright. This drivetrain failed in about 600 miles
@@TedwardDrives wow! Was just a lemon.
I had the infamous gear grinding issues but Honda Europe replaced the transmission no question asked.
I have a later 2017 type r and mine has been fine also too. 13k miles
So far.....
Nice! Great to see a local MA TH-camr instead of the usual Cali folks. Keep up the good work guys!
Thanks Ken... Glad to bring a less "TH-camy" vibe than the usual California boys
Just wanted to say you are doing a great job and your videos are pure quality!! Love it man keep it up!
Thanks Josh...Seriously appreciated
I live in Rhode Island and I’ve only seen like 3 of those and I freaked out cause there body style is so cool!
It's like an anime haircut as a car
Tedward hahaha lol
Ones mine ;)
One of them might be mine too . . . .
Yup , transmission broke around 3,000 miles and I had many exterior problems . 5 times in the shop in 5 months . Glad I sold her off with no upside down .
I’ve asked a couple of Type R owners about their transmissions and many say they do have the 1st to 2nd gear grind and some have gotten another transmission as well.
it seems hit or miss honestly.. People get so defensive which is annoying because pretending it's not an issue solves nothing. Plus those who say its bulletproof probably aren't driving them very hard
Tedward exactly , I had people tell me it was my fault because I was racing and pushing her too hard . Uhhh isn’t the Type R advertised as a race car ?? Lol
It did seem to fix the issue once the new transmission was put in I’m sure it was a 18 but I still had to put amsoil transmission oil just for added protection.
Thanks for the video keep up the great content !
Just found your channel, cool. I own a type R that isn't really daily driven, but it's definitely tracked on a regular basis. I maintain my car impeccably so it's cool to find another Type R owner that is into upgrading/maintaining this chassis.
what sort of issues have you run into after 20+ minutes on track? We've heard stories of boiling clutch fluid and heat soak...So far so good, but next summer it's going to see some serious abuse so we'll be doing our best to cool and reflect heat
Tedward yes, it will heat soak in the summer. Your oil cooler is a must. Bigger radiator didn’t really make a difference, so I’d skip that. The guys at USR found that out for us. Definitely upgrade the brake fluid, i use rbf600 and it works great. You will definitely need rotors if you drive hard. Mine warped after the first track day. I use girodisc rotors now with no issues. Brake pads are hawk dtc60s but I recommend going with carbotech instead. The brake are a must, really. Especially at fast tracks like road Atlanta where you go from 140 to 50 in a very short time. Generates a lot of heat. I’d definitely change the tranny fluid also for some syncromesh and also maybe use Motul 5w-40 for the track. Any extra protection is nice. That’s all I can think of right now. The big fix for overall heat soak is the oil cooler and you’re already doing that. One of the biggest upgrades you can do is getting some forged wheels with good tires. The Yokohama a052 is amazing. Honestly can’t say enough good things about that tire. Pairing the titan7 forged wheels with the girodisc rotors and you’re pulling over 60 pounds off the rotating mass. Makes a HUGE difference in how the car feels on track. The stock wheels are way too heavy and the tires are junk, i hate to say. They will have great grip for about 5 laps then they are gummy as all hell. As far as power, I’ve done all my track days with catless downpipe and ktuner stage 1 base map. Makes plenty of power. That’s all I can think of right now.
Omg! That’s my Type R’s closest sibling. I have Type R 3383! 5 away from mine. It is also Modern Steel in color too! Glad I watched!
@9:00 "oh the shifter is in my hand now" when ur in this moment on the highway those words are said in a "oh fuck" voice lmaooo
accurate
That shift knob is a fireball on a hot day in Texas. :(
It's a double fire ball in Florida... But cools down quick when the ac is on.
It's cold AF during winter in the UK. Same with the FN2 shift knob.
Need some gloves i guess
You should do the shifter cable bushings if you haven’t already. I did the Hybrid Racing bushings with Amsoil MTF and it was a really nice difference.
20 yrs later, the Honda S2000’s transmission continues to be the benchmark. I expect Honda will address the the CTR issues by 2020 models.
those will be the silent rolling changes that actually matter...but they will only publicize the new infotainment system buttons in the press releases lol. I really love this car tho
My 2018 has zero issues. I’m guessing they quietly fixed the issue in the 2017 transmissions.
Tedward agree. Unless it’s safety recall, it is going to be low publicity changes.
Ryan McFarland good to hear.
Apollo Andratti what
If 2020 is last model year
I’ve been lucky so far. 2018 with 82,000 miles. It’s my daily and I drive all over California.
Legit cut my finger in like the exact same place when I took my shift boot off to replace the shift knob 😂 I had no clue it happened or how. Thank you lol.
Congrats on the sub surge! Well deserved. :D
I feel you on interior work. I always feel like I'm going to lose just one screw and then it will bug me forever. Or something won't align just right for some unknown reason.
Usually ends up being pretty quick and simple when I actually tackle it though.
Good video as always! Pawin is a really excellent presenter.
"I didn't know this was a DSM channel." 😂
I was actually thinking that when I saw you were doing shifter base bushing replacement.
Thanks! Pawinn has a weallllth of knowledge so it was funny trying to get this video done.... I had to keep cutting him off and tell him to keep it simple lol. Once he got in the swing of that it was golden
Hah, I can totally see that happening. He was super nice and well spoken when I met him too. :D
In this episode, Pawinn sacrifices himself so you can modify your Type R safely!
Pawinn bled for our sins
He bled for his own sins too! Foreskin references are always a ticket to the bad place
Shift knob cold in winter, flesh burning molten lava in the summer. Probably not as bad in the si since it has the leather (plether?) insert. (I have an SI). The cold knob in winter doens't concern me as much because gloves. :)
Nothing a winter/racing/work gloves can't solve for a cold shift knob.
Nothing a wet tissue/towel can't solve for a hot shift knob.
I am saying this as an owner for the FK8
Great video! He's smart how he does his work. I like it, and how he handled the shift boot with acuity
First time coming across this channel! Good stuff. I own a 2018 CTR that's been an absolute dream so far. That shifter dissasembly may definitely come in handy in the future. As much as I loved the trans in my old 15 Si, the play in the shifter was unforgivable. The CTR shifter is heaps better, but I still see what you mean with there having just a hair too much play. Subscribed. :) Keep it up!
welcome! what color is your CTR?
@@TedwardDrives Championship white. Best colour for the car in my opinion. Also my 5th white Civic over the years. 😂
if you want the civic to get more cooling drill the fake vents and try to shape it to its vent design for better cooling
I'd give my right nut for you lot to do some work on my 2007 Type R.
Great vid, subbed for life.
P.s
That shift knob is icey cold here in Ireland today.
This was fascinating...never watched a console get dismantled like that. And also Tedward looks extra handsome in this vid for some reason :)
haha many thanks for this comment
holy shit, i thought bajheera stopped playing wow, stopped working out, and started obsessing over cars...
Very interesting video. Fun to watch. Subscribed!!
Awesome now I can bring my TypeR to you guys...
Nice to see a Type R getting some lovin. Can't wait to finish my mods this winter 😁
Love the Type R coverage. I can’t wait to see the intercooler and oil cooler installs. Is he planning to do a turbo blanket?
Not positive but stay tuned!
"race-inspired reliability?"
*looks at F1 record* "gee I sure hope not"
Just kidding! great video as always
FutureGadgets eh its getting better. They were pretty reliable in 2018
Nice video by the way!
That's a pretty spiffy purple you got there!
Honest video
"It comes off easier the second time" yep and it'll rattle and squeak imo messing around with the interior only means one thing!
I'd rather live with a standard unmolested car and you'll probably find your messing broke the trans ring or whatever was broken! Would Honda have replaced everything if they'd known what you've done to the car!?
2017, 2018, 2019's all having transmission issues. Honda not even acknowledging there is a problem like the DC5/FG2/FA5 3rd gear popout that took years to fess up to. Not everyone is experiencing the issue but the amount of people complaining about the same issues illustrates there is something going on. I have a 2018 Type R, 10,000 miles and it does have small transmission issues. I have reached out to 60+ people all experiencing the same 1 or 2 issues so far...
Was the owner of this car happy with his new transmission + all other replaced parts? I have heard mixed reviews between people saying its fixed vs. the new transmission is actually worse.
So far so good on the new gearbox but we'll see how it holds up over the next season of enthusiastic use. It's a shame that something so critical is a weak point on this car. Overall it's so great but out of warranty it poses big uncertainties
@@TedwardDrives Good News. Please have anyone who might have a dog in this fight that you know of contact me at JayDiem on the CivicX forum, I have a law firm reviewing a possible class action lawsuit over the next two weeks.
I know you said not everyone experiences it, so I am just throwing in my 2 cents. Got my 2017 Type R in June 2017, and have had zero transmission issues. Never had issues with my DC5 transmission either, even though it is a swapped motor/transmission into a 2000 Civic. Guess I am lucky =/
@Mathew Macaulay Wow, Jesus, are you serious? This is the worst case I've heard. I would definitely not accept this. I cannot believe you were any rougher on the car than I was and I am now at 10,500 miles. Unless you genuinely did something wrong like a big downshift into 2nd I would lawyer up on this one.
I have already been turned down at this point for class action representation until I build a little bit more thorough of a case, but if you want to email me or contact me on the Civicx forums let me know, id like to document everyone with an issue that I can.
Heres my experience. Drove the car 1000 miles home on day one, no issues. Issues eventually with 2nd gear crunch, mostly while revving out 1st gear a little bit. Turned off Revmatch and it made the problem a little bit better. Pretty much I just treat 1st like a granny gear and stay out of it. I believe the tranny gets a little better with a "break in period" say 10,000 miles. I plan on replacing fluid with Motul products.
Like I said hit me up if you'd like to document your issues with me, but I don't trust Honda (I love the car still) and I am going to have my own people work on the car outside of trying to document the problem first with a dealer ive spoken to who sounded reasonable. Will keep accumulating peoples experiences and eventually start a thread to get some traction going again for a class action/defective product suit.
A handful of cars with issues doesn't mean theirs a production issue.
Just a few that's making noise on CivicX, as always... I mean by what I read I expected my Type R to self implode the first week....
If you want better cooling with this type r, remove the bonnet , works a treat..
lol.....hahahah i lost it. "casting couch over here..."
Honda please make a Civic Si two doors body style with the Type-R engine!
Thanks for the heads up on that 1 Ted word Well that is a lot of damage as an owner I think I would Have been really pistol off. Your shows awesome buddy Good saying you haven't seen you in a .
What was that intro music? Super jazzy, you earned a sub ;)
eddy should realy make a covering on this beast because this grey paint is the worst color for the type R. She would looks much more agressive in sonic grey pearl or in classic Black !
“This is like a casting couch over here” - Please do tell . . . . .
dude looks like u have been with the manufacturer when assembling the car
Right!? He knows every inch of this interior
Lol my local weather network channel uses the same music as in this video
hahaha gotta love that royalty free life!
Firstly thought that he has cut finger ))) part of Jakudze
My gear knob is too cold........it hurts my hand........first world problem.......hahahahaha
R-03388, nice!
Hopefully u have the front end of the car covered with Xpel film
HAha as a matter of fact only the front of the car has xpel on it
I got one I live in Massachusetts
Tedward I think that the cold weather can affect the cars performance I just bought a jaguar. Wish I never bought the dam thing I felt that they scam me next time I bringing my brother to look at it I feel so stupid. I found out it was in flood live in learn! Take care. Tedward. I thought I got a deal
Why was the cat replaced?
Blew out after some
Hard driving. Exhaust side of that turbo must get realllllll hot. I was driving behind the type R and had to ask if he deleted the cats. He said no. I said you gotta smell this. Brought it to Honda and they replaced it. It was toast!
Are u doing more type r videos
There will be some track videos this spring. We are having an oil cooler installed this week but unfortunately won't be filming it
Tedward y not??
No Time... Having our friend's shop do it. As much as I'd like to film full time, I've still got a normal 9-5 day job.
Just call in sick for the day😉
haha I think they'll notice when they see the video!
Awesome 👍🏽
Nice
Just a lemon... Theirs piles up of trashcans I mean hellcats from actual engineering problems.
honda fell off, and is not what it used, it seems toyota is the only super reliable Japanese vehicle left, pretty sad
Mike Rivera JR Not the case. New batch of vehicles get factory problems and this is why you get 3 years warranty. It doesn’t matter which company makes it, you always find some cars brand new has minor problems. I bought my type R in 2017 and i never got a crunch changing gear or any gear box problems. I guess because it’s the UK version 🤷🏾♂️ and yes i do drive it hard.
needs more rice
Coming soon!
Type R's are built in United Kingdom, maybe their quality is more like Jaguar or Land Rover, ha, ha....
why are most Hondas made so Cheaply!
This is bullshit American honda literally did not cover me under warranty when my trans went out i had to get a lawyer
!!!!! Would love to hear this story
@@TedwardDrives i guess this new genz are rigged with sensors they got me for excessive speed and yeah i got it to 95 to 100 mph when the car only had 9k miles the reverse gear was blown and it also damaged the gearbox i had to pay 3k out of pocket but b4 the lawyer American honda literally wanted 9k dollars in orther to even consider touching my car so my car got red flagged so no dealership would help me !
Frankies honda that’s crazy, these cars are literally meant to drive faster than that haha
@Mathew Macaulay get a lawyer best advice American honda is fucking everyone over
Honda Civics are trash
Speedin Speedy kinda like your mother?