There is really no need and almost every cage to replace the whole spout! My diverter was bad in my tub and shower combination in the guest bathroom, I simply unscrew the knob that you pull up and down on and let the whole diverter come out through the bottom of the spout and inserted a new diverter in and screwed the knob back on it, problem is fixed just like that! I did not need to remove the whole spout or any of that nonsense. If your diverter is bad just unscrew the knob take the diverter assembly out through the bottom of the spout stick the new one in and screw the knob back on problem is fixed! But none of these videos I’ve watched tell you the simple and easy way to take care of your diverter problem for some reason!
I just pulled mine off thanks to this video! I had the same issue where the set screw didn't line up with the hole and couldn't be seen so i was trying to unscrew it not knowing it was in there. I didn't have a drill to use today, so i used a hacksaw and peeled back the part of the spout that was blocking the screw. Thank you! Now im off to the store to buy the replacement.
Thank you! I wouldn't even have had the confidence to know what to look for without this video. [EDIT: Now I need to learn how to solder and sweat copper...purchased the replacements before I knew I know nothing about plumbing. But still glad I'm willing to figure out making these repairs myself with some great TH-cam guidance. And I did know; but now I know even more. ]
Just one more thanks for the video. Same issue on my spout except the screw was almost 180 degrees around. I wasn’t exactly sure where, as I couldn’t see it but got close on the first drill and then just needed to make it wider with two more drill holes. When I first saw your video my first thought was this isn’t going to be my issue but that’s exactly what it was. 👍
Just what I was going thru ! Great video saved me a lot of heart ache , was twisting and afraid of damaging copper pipe , didn’t realize about set screw👍
I had the exact same problem and this video was the Cure!!! Took 5 minutes to solve after watching the video but spent at least 1/2 hour trying to figure it out before! THANKS!!!!!
Mine was twisted as well. I had to break off parts of the spout until I could get to the set screw but the plastic on the pipe refused to come off so I had to break that part off as well until it finally came off. Good video thank you! I didn't think it should have been as hard as it was but that made sense after watching this.
Thank you very much. I was really frustrated with this situation and I was almost ready to call a plumber. But after watching your video, I was able to get it done in 5 minutes and I am relieved that I can now replace it. I'm going to subscribe now and I will look forward to your other videos! Thanks again!
Yeah! Watching this allowed us to figure out how to get our spout off.....its collar had turned too. Wish I had seen it earlier....the cooper pipe is for sure weakened.
THANK YOU! This helped a lot. Will note that once we got t he screw out we still had to twist as it was partially threaded to another piece. But this just saved us having to call a plumber!
I wish I was as lucky as you. I couldn't figure out where the set screw was, so I used my angle grinder to cut away a ring of metal at the base of the spout. I then bent the ring back and forth with pliers until it broke and I could remove it. That helped me locate and remove the set screw (which was a Philips head in my case) but the spout still wouldn't come off. I then cut the spout completely in half longitudinally so I could separate the two halves and remove it. That left the plastic part still stuck on. It would rotate quite freely, but no amount of pulling or levering could get it to budge. I ended up losing my cool and just burning it off with a blowtorch. The plastic had to almost burn away completely before it finally let go. Turns out there was a thin burr of copper where the set screw had carved a groove in the pipe. That burr was enough to prevent the plastic piece from pulling off. Whoever designed these things was an utter moron.
I have the same issue. My set screw was aligned and I took it out completely. But the spout will not pull off. It is on there really tight and don't want to start pulling on the spout too much. These videos always make it look soooo easy! Guess I will have to get out the cutting tools...
I was banging my head on the wall trying to find the set screw. I must have taken 20 pictures underneath to find it. Turns out mine was the twist on type. Was so easy to replace.
Thank you! It's my exact spout from 1995.... I never twisted it but the screw isn't showing. I looked first, saw nothing but a metal piece and the plastic flange inside. I twisted it to look at underneath and nothing. Now I know to drill and find it.
This helpful video gave me an idea to just saw 1” off the downspout all the way around to expose the allen screw…how on earth did you know it was at that 3:00 position?
I installed a new Moen diverter and the dang set screw broke in the unit! I still have the old one but I am not sure how to remove it to get that set screw out and the old one back in. Moen said I needed a plumber and of course they didn't take responsibility for a defected part. Priceless.
Thank you! I was thinking mine did not have a set screw. I could not locate it. I took a grinder to get the spout cover off and discovered whomever installed this old one put the set screw at top dead center. 🤦🏻♂️
I gave a thumbs up because i have a stuburn spout that will not come off with a wierd allen key screw that won't turn and i have the right wrench but it striped it and i did not think drill a whole in the spout because all i have to do is turn it over and you can see the screw line with the whole it just won't turn basically it's froze in there
Did you ever get it off? I have a hex set screw that I see under the spout but it’s likely stripped or just corroded because turning it is very hard and doesn’t seem to loosen no matter how many times I think I’m turning it.
Yes i got it off but it wasn't with a hex set i had to call the plumber and he had to sand it off the crazy part is the ring that you put the hex screw on don't go on copper or iron pipe if you have a copper or iron pipe like i have your just suppose to screw the spout on that ring is for pvc and plastic pipes that is why my ring was stuck but i got it off
Charlie Gamer Yeah, I finally got mine off. It was on a copper pipe. Had to use a monkey wrench to twist the spout off of the plastic part inside that the pipe goes into. There was a metal ring with a stripped hex screw holding that plastic part onto the pipe. Trying to use the wrench to twist the ring to where I could easily work on it ended up breaking the ring and pulling the plastic sheath off. New spout is has a Phillips set screw, so it will be harder to strip hopefully.
Spout I want to remove is an American Standard and I don't see any collar at all, just copper pipe with a lot of green silicone trails. Spout turns but will not back off. Should I drill into the spout?
Probably a silly question - what kind of drill bit did you use? I tried regular and masonry and nothing is making a dent. Maybe I’m being too gentle worrying about breaking any pipes. Do I need to pick up titanium bits?
Do we need to use putty or silicone to seal the gap between the copper pipe and the wall? I saw other videos doing that for a screw on spout installation
@@dipaklpatel1 could also try peeling back the metal with some pliers. Was easier imo than the saw. All that happened was my buddies kids were messing with it and the screw no longer lined up with that hole. Using a large drill also helped a little.
@@jcg702 my maintenance guy used sleeve to cover space as stem.was longer to cover the space. There is no set screw at all. I cut it out but it has been connected to upfront and can't seem to unscrew. I don't want to get leak so may be spray some wd40 or something might help.
i have a spout that cant get off it looks like it just attached to the pipe directly and just keeps spinning even when i put locks on the pipe just wont do anything
I had a stuck slip on spout... got the set screw out.. all he way out ... flipped it upside down sprayed lubricant in the screw hole and on the copper tube.. twisted it a bit.. and it came right off.
I twisted the wrong way and didn’t know I had to look for a screw 😭 it’s stuck with the faucet turned to the left and now I can’t get it to move back into place!! I hope I didn’t break it!
Thanks, this worked for me. But I found I have gouged the pipe on the outside because of the set screw digging into it as I twisted. Can I just sand this away?
Quick way -Just take saws all and cut all way through just behind water comes out . Spout will fall off . You’ll be left w connection point your looking for .
I was actually able to pull the spout itself off, but the white plastic piece with the screw on it as well as the 4 edged piece won't come off. There's also no screw (I think it's already been removed)...
Mine is stuck and I had no problem finding and removing the set screw.. Yet it still twists and twists. Hmm wondering if somehow I'm missing this same issue but I don't see how I could be. That thing is on there good! 😫
I don't have a set screw on mine. I haven't tried to screw it off yet. Hope I don't bust a pipe! I have no idea how old the pipes are, but if they're original, they're 84 yrs old.
Is there a way to move the shifted "sleeve" or centerpiece to line up with the set screw, instead of drilling holes near the opening. How do you know exactly where the set screw is located?
I'm trying to replace mine but I can't find the set screw and I can't twist the faucet off. I think the previous owner might have used too much caulking. The wife thinks it's the foam stuff. I'm not sure how to proceed without possibly damaging the pipes
Mine doesn’t have the screw and it won’t spin counter clockwise either. I rent the house and the landlord is one of greedy people. She won’t replace our spout so I’m trying to do it myself. Please help! Any advice is greatly appreciated 😊✨👍
Use a mirror to redirect the view into the hole when you can't get the camera close enough to the wall. Like an inspection mirror or something. They might have frameless ones at your local dollar store or other variety store.
I need help. We took the one off our tub and it’s a screw on to Home Depot to get a replacement and found the one that’s identical to what we have. We get it home and it doesn’t fit. It doesn’t reach the copper pipe. What to do? I suppose grind it down to the original? I have a old house.
When looking through the bottom opening I was able to see the set screw was offset from where it should be. That pointed me in the general area to drill.
Mine appears to be on same situation and I can't see the set screw but I can't twist the spout around either. It appears to be a mich older system bc I using camera I see no mechanism, only pipe 😥. What could Itry?
How is did you figure out the set screw was "right around here"? I have spun the spout and looked very close and still have no idea where the set screw might be to try and drill? THANKS
I initially looked through the bottom side hole that the set screw should be accessible through. When it wasn't in direct line with the hole, I peaked around with a flashlight and was able to get a rough idea where the set screw was. Then I drilled a hole and got it close enough to loosen the set screw. It may take a couple tries though.
@@WeakestofWeeks Thanks, tried and tried and could not find it. I ended up using a hacksaw and it was a pain in the @ss but it did actually work. Thanks so much.
You created an error by cutting the copper pipe shorter. You will find out that because the pipe is shorter when you pull up on the shower diverter, too much play will be on your spigot. That length copper helped give your spigot greater stability when using the diverter.
I had the exact same problem- your technique allowed me to remove the spout and saved the day (and the plumber’s bill)! Thank you so much!
There is really no need and almost every cage to replace the whole spout! My diverter was bad in my tub and shower combination in the guest bathroom, I simply unscrew the knob that you pull up and down on and let the whole diverter come out through the bottom of the spout and inserted a new diverter in and screwed the knob back on it, problem is fixed just like that! I did not need to remove the whole spout or any of that nonsense. If your diverter is bad just unscrew the knob take the diverter assembly out through the bottom of the spout stick the new one in and screw the knob back on problem is fixed! But none of these videos I’ve watched tell you the simple and easy way to take care of your diverter problem for some reason!
But just know, there is no need to remove The entire nozzle to replace a bad diverter!
In my case a new deverter didn't do the job had to replace the spout and mine was turned just like this one👍
I just pulled mine off thanks to this video! I had the same issue where the set screw didn't line up with the hole and couldn't be seen so i was trying to unscrew it not knowing it was in there. I didn't have a drill to use today, so i used a hacksaw and peeled back the part of the spout that was blocking the screw. Thank you! Now im off to the store to buy the replacement.
Thank you for posting this. For the life of me, I couldn't figure out why I couldn't unthread or find the set screw on my tub spout.
Dang, I’ve been putting this off for months. Had to drill 3 holes on the spout before I could find the screw. Got it and it’s off! Thanks man
I finally took a grinder to mine as I couldn't find the set screw. It was top dead center!
Watched 4 videos and this was the only one that I got explained everything clearly.
Thank you! I wouldn't even have had the confidence to know what to look for without this video.
[EDIT: Now I need to learn how to solder and sweat copper...purchased the replacements before I knew I know nothing about plumbing. But still glad I'm willing to figure out making these repairs myself with some great TH-cam guidance. And I did know; but now I know even more. ]
Just one more thanks for the video. Same issue on my spout except the screw was almost 180 degrees around. I wasn’t exactly sure where, as I couldn’t see it but got close on the first drill and then just needed to make it wider with two more drill holes. When I first saw your video my first thought was this isn’t going to be my issue but that’s exactly what it was. 👍
Just what I was going thru ! Great video saved me a lot of heart ache , was twisting and afraid of damaging copper pipe , didn’t realize about set screw👍
Your video, the one and only I found to show the same exact problem I'm having to remove my spout. THANK YOU for posting this!!!
I had the exact same problem and this video was the Cure!!! Took 5 minutes to solve after watching the video but spent at least 1/2 hour trying to figure it out before! THANKS!!!!!
Mine was twisted as well. I had to break off parts of the spout until I could get to the set screw but the plastic on the pipe refused to come off so I had to break that part off as well until it finally came off. Good video thank you! I didn't think it should have been as hard as it was but that made sense after watching this.
Thank you very much. I was really frustrated with this situation and I was almost ready to call a plumber. But after watching your video, I was able to get it done in 5 minutes and I am relieved that I can now replace it. I'm going to subscribe now and I will look forward to your other videos! Thanks again!
After drilling several exploratory holes, it worked like a charm. Thanks!!!
This is EXACTLY the problem with my spout right now, I can see the set screw is in the wrong position. Glad to see I'm not the only one..
Yeah! Watching this allowed us to figure out how to get our spout off.....its collar had turned too. Wish I had seen it earlier....the cooper pipe is for sure weakened.
Thanks for the help! I have your identical spout, with the identical problem. Three holes drilled later and I just got it off! Thank you!
This was exactly the video I needed. Thanks! My old spout was apparently identical to yours and I had the same problem with the hidden set screw.
Nice job finding that lost set screw. Good times !
Perfect!!! you are a lifesaver - I couldn't figure out where the set screw was
THANK YOU! This helped a lot. Will note that once we got t he screw out we still had to twist as it was partially threaded to another piece. But this just saved us having to call a plumber!
Thanks! That was super helpful. I knew I needed to get to the set screw, but I didn’t know how to. Now I do. Much appreciated!
Thank You! Drilled it and 2 seconds later on to the next step!
Thank you! I has this same problem tonight. I twisted the spout thinking it was a screw off type...
Thank you so much. Now I feel prepared to deal with whatever might go wrong!!
Thanks man. Sitting here waiting for a week for a plumber to call me back. Think I'll tackle this myself now.
I tried this and it worked great, the only thing was it took three holes before I found it. Mine was at about the one o’clock position. Thanks again.
Exact same problem. Would never have thought to drill to get access. Thanks so much!
You saved me a gang of money Thanks
I wish I was as lucky as you. I couldn't figure out where the set screw was, so I used my angle grinder to cut away a ring of metal at the base of the spout. I then bent the ring back and forth with pliers until it broke and I could remove it. That helped me locate and remove the set screw (which was a Philips head in my case) but the spout still wouldn't come off.
I then cut the spout completely in half longitudinally so I could separate the two halves and remove it. That left the plastic part still stuck on. It would rotate quite freely, but no amount of pulling or levering could get it to budge. I ended up losing my cool and just burning it off with a blowtorch. The plastic had to almost burn away completely before it finally let go.
Turns out there was a thin burr of copper where the set screw had carved a groove in the pipe. That burr was enough to prevent the plastic piece from pulling off.
Whoever designed these things was an utter moron.
I have the same issue. My set screw was aligned and I took it out completely. But the spout will not pull off. It is on there really tight and don't want to start pulling on the spout too much. These videos always make it look soooo easy! Guess I will have to get out the cutting tools...
Helpful, thank you! I’ll stop spinning it around now and just call a plumber to swap this faucet out unless you’re free this Saturday 😂
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I was banging my head on the wall trying to find the set screw. I must have taken 20 pictures underneath to find it. Turns out mine was the twist on type. Was so easy to replace.
Thank you! It's my exact spout from 1995.... I never twisted it but the screw isn't showing. I looked first, saw nothing but a metal piece and the plastic flange inside. I twisted it to look at underneath and nothing. Now I know to drill and find it.
You saved my a$$ on this one. I had to drill 7 holes but found the set screw.
You save me from a unnecessary headache
This helpful video gave me an idea to just saw 1” off the downspout all the way around to expose the allen screw…how on earth did you know it was at that 3:00 position?
Thanks for the video. Did you make a new one installing the trim kit? Thanks.
thank you!!! this was EXTREMELY HELPFUL!
Thank you for sharing and teaching, totally know what to do now.
Thank you. I'm tearing out the old copper and putting in new but I was wondering what size hex key was needed.
Had the same problem, set screw was offset. Thanks a lot
Your video was key to my success!!! Thanks 👍🏾
I installed a new Moen diverter and the dang set screw broke in the unit! I still have the old one but I am not sure how to remove it to get that set screw out and the old one back in. Moen said I needed a plumber and of course they didn't take responsibility for a defected part. Priceless.
Thank you! I was thinking mine did not have a set screw. I could not locate it. I took a grinder to get the spout cover off and discovered whomever installed this old one put the set screw at top dead center. 🤦🏻♂️
Loved the TDC reference haha!
I gave a thumbs up because i have a stuburn spout that will not come off with a wierd allen key screw that won't turn and i have the right wrench but it striped it and i did not think drill a whole in the spout because all i have to do is turn it over and you can see the screw line with the whole it just won't turn basically it's froze in there
Did you ever get it off? I have a hex set screw that I see under the spout but it’s likely stripped or just corroded because turning it is very hard and doesn’t seem to loosen no matter how many times I think I’m turning it.
Yes i got it off but it wasn't with a hex set i had to call the plumber and he had to sand it off the crazy part is the ring that you put the hex screw on don't go on copper or iron pipe if you have a copper or iron pipe like i have your just suppose to screw the spout on that ring is for pvc and plastic pipes that is why my ring was stuck but i got it off
Charlie Gamer Yeah, I finally got mine off. It was on a copper pipe. Had to use a monkey wrench to twist the spout off of the plastic part inside that the pipe goes into. There was a metal ring with a stripped hex screw holding that plastic part onto the pipe. Trying to use the wrench to twist the ring to where I could easily work on it ended up breaking the ring and pulling the plastic sheath off. New spout is has a Phillips set screw, so it will be harder to strip hopefully.
Spout I want to remove is an American Standard and I don't see any collar at all, just copper pipe with a lot of green silicone trails. Spout turns but will not back off. Should I drill into the spout?
brilliant!!!! you’re amazing. this was so helpful, thanks!!!!!
Probably a silly question - what kind of drill bit did you use? I tried regular and masonry and nothing is making a dent. Maybe I’m being too gentle worrying about breaking any pipes. Do I need to pick up titanium bits?
I just used a cheap harbor freight drill bit set made for metal
Thanks. Maybe that's the problem with mine. I will attempt this on my own before calling a plumber.
Could a metal cutter work from underneath?
Thank you!!! All fixed thanks to your video 🥳
I have almost the same kohler spout but, absolutely no access hole to even find a set screw
I have one (parent’s house) that will neither unscrew nor can I see or feel any set screw. Lord I hate plumbing.
Thanks. This helped a lot
Thank you so much that helped me out perfectly.
Do we need to use putty or silicone to seal the gap between the copper pipe and the wall? I saw other videos doing that for a screw on spout installation
I'm taking a saw to it tomorrow (just the shell of course), thanks for the help!!!
thats what we did lol
I am going to attempt tomorrow
@@dipaklpatel1 could also try peeling back the metal with some pliers. Was easier imo than the saw. All that happened was my buddies kids were messing with it and the screw no longer lined up with that hole. Using a large drill also helped a little.
@@jcg702 my maintenance guy used sleeve to cover space as stem.was longer to cover the space. There is no set screw at all. I cut it out but it has been connected to upfront and can't seem to unscrew. I don't want to get leak so may be spray some wd40 or something might help.
i have a spout that cant get off it looks like it just attached to the pipe directly and just keeps spinning even when i put locks on the pipe just wont do anything
I twisted mine and the copper pipe twisted and broke lol.
I had a stuck slip on spout... got the set screw out.. all he way out ... flipped it upside down sprayed lubricant in the screw hole and on the copper tube.. twisted it a bit.. and it came right off.
excelent, very normal issue. you got it right
I twisted the wrong way and didn’t know I had to look for a screw 😭 it’s stuck with the faucet turned to the left and now I can’t get it to move back into place!! I hope I didn’t break it!
How in the world did you know the set screw was off alignment? That was so helpful. Thanks
Cuz it was not visible thru the access hole on the underside of spout perhaps
Thanks, this worked for me. But I found I have gouged the pipe on the outside because of the set screw digging into it as I twisted. Can I just sand this away?
Perfect solution! Thanks!
Quick way -Just take saws all and cut all way through just behind water comes out . Spout will fall off . You’ll be left w connection point your looking for .
I have no set screw and it won’t turn at all- looks like it was cheap metal and rusted- I’ll be trying the sawzalll next
Quick question how did know the set screw was on that side?
I was actually able to pull the spout itself off, but the white plastic piece with the screw on it as well as the 4 edged piece won't come off. There's also no screw (I think it's already been removed)...
Mine is stuck and I had no problem finding and removing the set screw.. Yet it still twists and twists. Hmm wondering if somehow I'm missing this same issue but I don't see how I could be. That thing is on there good! 😫
I don't have a set screw on mine. I haven't tried to screw it off yet. Hope I don't bust a pipe! I have no idea how old the pipes are, but if they're original, they're 84 yrs old.
That is exactly what I’m going through.
Excellent video, well done.
Thank you for the wonderful sharing video.
Is there a way to move the shifted "sleeve" or centerpiece to line up with the set screw, instead of drilling holes near the opening. How do you know exactly where the set screw is located?
You are so smart..really nice faucet
Thank you thank you thank you!!!! Spot on. Exactly what I needed to know.
I'm trying to replace mine but I can't find the set screw and I can't twist the faucet off. I think the previous owner might have used too much caulking. The wife thinks it's the foam stuff. I'm not sure how to proceed without possibly damaging the pipes
Yes! This is my situation exactly!
Jeez.... This is exactly what I needed!!!!!!
Maybe a dumb question, but how did you figure out where the set screw ended up/where to drill?
Seriously. I'm going mad. Also I work third shift and so it's the middle of the night and my spout is just full of holes
Mine doesn’t have the screw and it won’t spin counter clockwise either. I rent the house and the landlord is one of greedy people. She won’t replace our spout so I’m trying to do it myself. Please help! Any advice is greatly appreciated 😊✨👍
Thanks! This video helpled me out a lot!
This would have been a perfect job for a dremel or a small oscillating tool. Great job though using what he had at the time.
This tip helped thank you
Sat in my tub, totally unable to twist my faucet. No screw, no nothing. I crave dead
Im there too. I bought CLR because mine is supposed to twist off and is stuck on good
I’ll be doing that soon. Mine is one fixture though with two knobs on each side but I think the spout can unscrew but it is all gunked up.
can a person buy a trim piece like you have, for any tub spout?
Use a mirror to redirect the view into the hole when you can't get the camera close enough to the wall. Like an inspection mirror or something. They might have frameless ones at your local dollar store or other variety store.
Excellent tip and something I never thought about! Thank you for sharing!!
I need help. We took the one off our tub and it’s a screw on to Home Depot to get a replacement and found the one that’s identical to what we have. We get it home and it doesn’t fit. It doesn’t reach the copper pipe. What to do? I suppose grind it down to the original? I have a old house.
Thank you so much for this sir
What can I do if I remove the set screw completely but I still can’t get the spout off?
Had same problem however that access slot that he had on the bottom my facuet did not even have it
Not sure how it went on in the first place
How did you know where to drill? Was it just luck or could you see by looking through the opening where it was supposed to be?
When looking through the bottom opening I was able to see the set screw was offset from where it should be. That pointed me in the general area to drill.
dp you have to turn off water first?
What is faucet does not have set screw but still just spins ?
Mine has no set screw but it is not turning
I can’t see a set screw but mine also won’t turn. Same problem?
This just saved me a plumber... 👍🏾
Mine appears to be on same situation and I can't see the set screw but I can't twist the spout around either. It appears to be a mich older system bc I using camera I see no mechanism, only pipe 😥. What could Itry?
If the spout spins, why not just align the screw with the existing hole?
How is did you figure out the set screw was "right around here"? I have spun the spout and looked very close and still have no idea where the set screw might be to try and drill? THANKS
I initially looked through the bottom side hole that the set screw should be accessible through. When it wasn't in direct line with the hole, I peaked around with a flashlight and was able to get a rough idea where the set screw was. Then I drilled a hole and got it close enough to loosen the set screw. It may take a couple tries though.
@@WeakestofWeeks Thanks, tried and tried and could not find it. I ended up using a hacksaw and it was a pain in the @ss but it did actually work. Thanks so much.
I can't even get my spout to turn counter clock wise. So now what do I do.
Spout won’t turn. Can’t find set screw. Hole at base of spout at tub wall is only big enough for a flat head screwdriver tip to be inserted.
You created an error by cutting the copper pipe shorter. You will find out that because the pipe is shorter when you pull up on the shower diverter, too much play will be on your spigot. That length copper helped give your spigot greater stability when using the diverter.