Rebars are not supposed to go outside though To improve the anchorage, the end has to form an L shape pointing up in this case Or as mentioned in the other comment, have the points of supports farther away than the end of the rebars ( either by moving the supports or by extending the beam)
I used to had a fear of buildings falling, I used to believe buildings just crack, but this video made me aware that buildings bend and they show signs before falling. Now i can rest well looking at concrete ceiling. Thank you so much
A well designed building will bend and show distress before failure. In practice we always try to avoid failures like we saw in beams 3 through 6. If the building will fail, we try to follow something like beams 1 or 2.
Fantastic video, and a question, if you were to bend the rebar ends to allow the ends of the beam to be connected to the bottom of the beam in that way wouldn't that be able to prevent the ancor failure?
What was the calculated load capacity of each beam compared to the observed load capacity at failure? In other words, how close do our calculations match reality?
For Beam 1, the flexural capacity was about 110 k-in., which should occur at a load of 9.2 kips. We observed about 12 kips of capacity. These calculations assumed nominal material properties for concrete strength of 4 ksi and steel yield of 60 ksi. Measured concrete strength was a bit lower (a bit over 3 ksi), but that barely affects the flexural capacity. We didn't test the rebar, but it was likely to have higher yield than 60 ksi, which would have a major impact on the capacity. Repeating for Beam 2, the flexural capacity was about 162 k-in., which should occur at a load of 13.5 kips. We achieved nearly 16 kips in testing. Beams 3 and 4 had a reinforcement ratio of about 2.94%, but did not have adequate shear reinforcement. Using ACI 318-19 Table 22.5.5.1(c), we would get Vc = 8.0 kips using the nominal concrete strength of 4 ksi. Assuming the stirrups provide no strength (which is reasonable, as they are spaced so far apart), this failure would occur at an applied load of 16 kips. Beams 3 and 4 saw about 14 or 15 kips of load, respectively. If we instead use the measured concrete strength of about 3 ksi, then Vc = 6.9 kips for a failure load of 13.8 kips - that's very close! For Beams 5 and 6, this didn't look like a traditional "shear failure" because of the anchorage issue. However, the estimated shear capacity for these two beams, again neglecting the stirrups and assuming nominal concrete strength of 4 ksi, would be about Vc = 8.0 kips, meaning a failure load of 16 kips. That's pretty close for Beam 5 (failure load of just under 16 kips), but a little low for Beam 6 (failure load of about 18.5 kips). The stirrups maybe provide some help for Beam 6, if only to force the crack to take a steeper incline angle compared to the more traditional shear failures of Beams 3 and 4.
I LOVED ur videos, especially this, it's kind of hard to find this kind of material with so much quality and professionalism, would like to see more domestic examples from other countries constructive processes and material, as in Mexico is used a pre fabricated steel elements called Armex, and see the pros and cons of confinement process, or called also load-bearing walls. Greetings guys! Keep the quality
It appeared that your supports were at the end of the bottom rebar or even somewhat outside of them. You need the steel to extend well beyond the supports.
Yep, I agree 100%. Best practice for simple supports is to terminate the steel at least 6 inches (75 mm) past the face of the support (ACI 318, section 9.7.3.8.1). Though you can't see it, the same supports and bar termination was done for all the beams. This was done improperly here partially for ease of construction and partially to make a point.
@@jpcraftconstruction.1828 It does get stronger with time, but the reason for failure of the stronger beams was the improper placement of the supports which is misleading in regards to which beams likely would have performed best. The weaker beams didn’t have sufficient capacity to overload the points above the supports, but the stronger beams did. This just confirms why the proper balance is important in design. Making one area stronger simply moves the failure to a different place.
This experiment more related to a pre-cast design otherwise development length plays a big role here. Top and bottom extra bars are also play a big role in construction. Also at the L2 should have stirrups closer than in the mid section.
Possibly, yes. Moment capacity requires a balance of tension (in steel) and compression (in concrete). With low strength concrete, you might not get that much benefit from high strength steel, especially if you can’t yield the steel to use it to the fullest. Plus, in practice, higher strength materials may run into serviceability or deflection issues - high strength does not always mean high stiffness (for example, all steels have roughly the same elastic modulus, regardless of strength). It may hold the load just fine, but have unacceptable deflections.
For these beams, the concrete strength at testing was only about 3,000 psi (20 MPa). We did not test the rebar yield stress, which would have a greater impact than concrete strength for the flexural capacity.
As a general rule, a 135-degree hook is better than a 90-degree hook. However, we typically assume that the hooks in the stirrups don't matter for capacity, so long as they satisfy prespecified "standard" hook conditions. So for example, ACI Table 25.3.2 has standard hook geometry for stirrups - as long as we are following (or exceeding) that, we assume we get the full design capacity from the stirrups. However, there are some conditions where the type of stirrup hook may be more important, like for seismic design (ACI Section 18.6.4) or for beams carrying torsion (ACI Section 25.7.1.6). Again, we treat these prescriptively - the stirrup hook geometry doesn't factor into our design calculations so long as our hooks meet the standard.
I’m no expert on rammed earth construction, so I’m afraid I can’t provide much insight. Sorry. That said, structurally it seems limited to walls and other systems that carry relatively low levels of compressive load and essentially no tension. If it’s stabilized with cement and has some rebar, I presume it behaves much like a low strength concrete or CMU wall?
Hi, Dr.Broke.. it is amazing veido.. i want to know how you design these beams?? Are you following the ACI cold to determine the dimensions, main reinforced and stirupps ?? Can you let me know . I am interested to know about that. Thanks
Does anyone know of any similar videos for wooden beams of various dimensions? The ICC publishes tables for acceptable beam lengths. It would be interesting to observe the actual failure of wooden beams almost every multi level home is constructed with. I'm a layman. I build off of engineered plans, but often wonder how was this or that computed.
You can, though the shapes are a little different from the typical I-shape, wide-flange steel beam. A quick search for "prestressed concrete girder" will show that many of these are indeed I-shapes. Here is an example: www.countymaterials.com/media/zoo/images/janesville_girder1_e0557e2b63f187fde6bb369446a47a69.jpg
Dear Sir, First of all, thank you so much for making such a practical video of structure behaviour after applying load. Would you like to let me know in which software we can make the same animation of any beam and columns carrying load and showing us the results? Thank you
Would have liked to see tests 5 and 6 repeated so we can see actual results without the testing environment being the failure cause. Also, when the rebar was placed into the forms, I didn't notice any spacers/chairs on the rebar to prevent it being to close to surface. Were those intentionally left out, or were they just not visible on camera?
I agree. I actually did try these two tests again recently, with three horizontal stirrups/ties placed at the each end above the supports. Ideally, these should have bridged the split that formed at the beam ends. Long story short, it didn't work out, and I got the same failure mode again! Didn't publish a video on it, as I didn't think it added much value. Just goes to show that there is no substitute for good rebar anchorage at the ends. As for chairs, yes they are there, but rather hard to see. Concrete cover is lower than would normally be acceptable for code (only 0.75 inches), on account of the beam's small scale and these not actually going into a building.
That's a good idea, Sam! We have a bunch of extra stirrups floating around our lab, so next time I'll drop a few of those horizontally into the end regions. That is an easier fix than making the beams longer (would need new forms) or moving the supports in (lab floor connections are where they are, and not much I can do about that without fabricating new supports). I really wanted to see a compression-controlled flexural failure, but there is always next time. That would make a good follow-up video.
Also me , I want to know how you design these beams?? Are you following the ACI cold of beam design or how you determined the dimensions, the reinforced of longitude and shear?? I hope to let me know???
Prof H, I'd like to run through the same testing you did on our precast concrete products. What were you using for your displacement sensor, pressure sensor, signal conditioning, and your DAQ?
I'm not part of the team that did this, but I may be able to help as I have done these tests in the past (specifically the thirds tests done here). Deflection is usually measured by a laser displacement sensor below the beam or you could use an LVDT for more accurate measurement. For pressure, if youre referring to the force applied to the beam, the test rig (pretty much a specialised hydraulic press) usually has a force and deflection readout. You dont want a pressure readout in these conditions as the diameter of the hydraulic cylinder would then be a factor. The force applied by the press can be halved as shown in the video where P/2 is used to calculate the SFD and BMD for the beam at any point in the test. Some machines can be set to increase the force applied over time, or deflection over time. For both methods, you will know your beam has failed when the force readout reaches a maximum and then starts to decrease consistently, not just briefly at the point where the steel yields (assuming you haven't over reinforced the beam). Using the machine in deflection control is usually much safer. Because once the beam fails, the hydraulic cylinder will just coninue downwards at the same, usually very slow, speed. If you use force control, the machine will speed up after failure trying to apply a higher force. This cannot happen after failure due to the beam no longer being able to resist the ULS force which the machine is now trying to surpass. If/when you conduct these tests, be aware of the very sudden nature in which the beams fail, it can be quite jolting or even quite violent if over reinforced. The over reinforced beams will fail without any warning.
I just discovered your videos and I'm already a big fan. However, I am also an amateur to this. I have a couple of questions that I hope are not too naive. First, have you performed any of these tests with GFRP, a fiber reinforced resin based rebar? The second question is where the more experienced people on here might giggle at me. Would it be reasonable to build a metal truss within the cement? It seems that the amount of metal being used in some of your tests could be made to hold a lot more pressure if it were built in a truss pattern instead.
Glad you liked the video! I haven’t tried any tests with GFRP bars yet, but that would be very interesting. In general, GFRP is higher strength than steel but it lacks ductility, so no more ductile yield plateau behavior. It also has lower stiffness, which can mean larger displacements. As for the truss, the beam already kinda does that for you - the steel carries the tensile forces while the concrete carries the compression. So the concrete forms the top chord and the “diagonals” of the truss, while the rebar forms the bottom chord and the vertical members. Sure, you could layout the steel in a truss-like configuration, and it may have really great performance, but the standard rebar “cage” is much easier to build.
Yes. To clarify, we did a wet cure in the forms for 7 days. After 7 days, we removed the beams from the forms, but they were not tested until just after 28 days. To be fair though, many concrete structures in practice are loaded at ages much earlier than 28 days, despite that being the “standard” design strength. Strength gain is not linear. You gain most of the strength within the first week, but you can also gain strength (very slowly) for a year or more.
Hi Prof H, superb test. Very insightful. Instant sub. Thanks! ❤️ P.s: trying to find out info about placing a steel iBeam inside a concrete beam; think it’s called a compound/concealed beam. Are they advisable in a situation with high load? 💭
The parameters should have been bond & anchorage length, minimum reinforcement, shear capacity, flexural requirement against provided reinforcement and load
Firstly, Very Interesting Demonstration. Sir, I have a query. In case of beam 6, although the number of stirrups are sufficient and closely spaced enough why are we having shear failure despite having shear capacity to be on higher side? Also, why the main longitudinal bars are pulling out? are those not properly anchored and embedded in the concrete? and also, Why shear failure is coming in beam 6 even though we have enough shear capacity. I will be glad if you can please elaborate and resolve my query.
The longitudinal bars for beam 6 are definitely not anchored properly. They have a relatively large diameter, no hooks or anything to keep them in place, and the end of the bar was directly above the support. Ordinarily (and per ACI 318 code) you would need these bars to extend at least 6 inches past the face of the support. Once the bar started to pull out, it initiates into a shear-like failure. Though some of the simplified code equations for shear capacity neglect it, the longitudinal bars do play an integral role in developing shear capacity; in this case there was effectively no longitudinal steel area at the ends after bar pullout. I call it "shear-like" because unlike a traditional shear failure, which would be expected to follow more of a diagonal crack path, the crack extended at a very steep angle from the support. So I guess I'd call it more of a combined anchorage-bearing-shear failure, but initially caused by the poor anchorage.
@@StructuresProfH Sir, you meant at the support end stirrups were not there to anchor the longitudinal bars? Otherwise it would not have undergone pull-out. However, I meant enough shear capacity in the sense that stirrups provided were sufficient enough to provide shear capacity. Since, the bars pulled out at first place due to ineffective anchorage the stirrups didn't play any role. Am I correct?
It seems to me like beam 5 needs to be longer. The weight can't break it at the center so it breaks it at the end since thats where the opposing force is
Asked Claude 3.5 : Let me explain why rebars are often placed at the bottom of beams: Tension zone: When a beam is loaded from the top, the bottom of the beam experiences tension. Concrete is strong in compression but weak in tension. Steel rebars are added to the bottom to handle these tensile forces. Bending moment: The maximum bending moment in a simply supported beam typically occurs at the middle of the span. This creates the greatest tension at the bottom of the beam in this area. Compression zone: The top of the beam is typically in compression when loaded from above. Concrete is already strong in compression, so it often doesn't need as much reinforcement there. Testing to failure: In tests, placing the rebar at the bottom allows researchers to observe how the beam behaves under typical loading conditions. They can see how the concrete cracks and how the steel reinforcement performs. However, it's important to note that in real-world applications, beams often do have some reinforcement at the top as well, especially for: Negative bending moments over supports in continuous beams Shrinkage and temperature control Torsional resistance Compression reinforcement in some designs
One cubic yard! Yeah, it’s a ridiculously small load, but our concrete supplier is really great about this kind of stuff. It’s certainly easier than mixing by hand (don’t have a drum mixer with this capacity).
And consider that these beams were otherwise constructed with care, out in the wild partiality skilled labor and / or poor quality materials further reduce the strength of the construction.
Sorry, I wasn’t clear in the video. We did a wet cure (with burlap) for 7 days. We tested roughly one month after casting. That said, there are many applications in the real world where concrete is loaded well before 28 days, and concrete will continue to gain strength even after 28 days. It’s more accurate to say that 28 days is the laboratory standard.
Brotha for accurate test you suppose to do a 7 day, 30 day and a 60 day. Those are thick so it’ll probably take a little longer to mature. 7 days is not a lot of time to mature.
You will have to repeat #5 and 6 beams with rebars extended outside the beam to prevent anchorage failiure.
Yes I agree..or move the 2 supports closer.
@@geraldborja144 Indeed that was disappointing...
Rebars are not supposed to go outside though
To improve the anchorage, the end has to form an L shape pointing up in this case
Or as mentioned in the other comment, have the points of supports farther away than the end of the rebars ( either by moving the supports or by extending the beam)
Cog the bars
yes i think those hor. rebars are few short to the support area
I used to had a fear of buildings falling, I used to believe buildings just crack, but this video made me aware that buildings bend and they show signs before falling. Now i can rest well looking at concrete ceiling. Thank you so much
A well designed building will bend and show distress before failure. In practice we always try to avoid failures like we saw in beams 3 through 6. If the building will fail, we try to follow something like beams 1 or 2.
They can do both.
Building have alot of safety factors sprinkled in every step of the calculation
@@vanskis7618 civil and Structural engineering student and I enjoyed the video
This is very beautiful video. I work 15yaers like structural engineer but when you see it real it si much more better than read in books ! Thanks !
Glad you enjoyed it!
This has to be the best video I've seen this year, so informative. Subscribing right away
Best TH-cam professor in reinforced concrete
Appreciate this type of content. Keep up the good work sir 🙏🏾
Nice test but 7 days isn’t enough for concrete reach its maximal strength. It has to be at least 21 days.
best youtube channel for civil indsutry ever . experience is better than theory
Fantastic video, and a question, if you were to bend the rebar ends to allow the ends of the beam to be connected to the bottom of the beam in that way wouldn't that be able to prevent the ancor failure?
What was the calculated load capacity of each beam compared to the observed load capacity at failure? In other words, how close do our calculations match reality?
For Beam 1, the flexural capacity was about 110 k-in., which should occur at a load of 9.2 kips. We observed about 12 kips of capacity. These calculations assumed nominal material properties for concrete strength of 4 ksi and steel yield of 60 ksi. Measured concrete strength was a bit lower (a bit over 3 ksi), but that barely affects the flexural capacity. We didn't test the rebar, but it was likely to have higher yield than 60 ksi, which would have a major impact on the capacity.
Repeating for Beam 2, the flexural capacity was about 162 k-in., which should occur at a load of 13.5 kips. We achieved nearly 16 kips in testing.
Beams 3 and 4 had a reinforcement ratio of about 2.94%, but did not have adequate shear reinforcement. Using ACI 318-19 Table 22.5.5.1(c), we would get Vc = 8.0 kips using the nominal concrete strength of 4 ksi. Assuming the stirrups provide no strength (which is reasonable, as they are spaced so far apart), this failure would occur at an applied load of 16 kips. Beams 3 and 4 saw about 14 or 15 kips of load, respectively. If we instead use the measured concrete strength of about 3 ksi, then Vc = 6.9 kips for a failure load of 13.8 kips - that's very close!
For Beams 5 and 6, this didn't look like a traditional "shear failure" because of the anchorage issue. However, the estimated shear capacity for these two beams, again neglecting the stirrups and assuming nominal concrete strength of 4 ksi, would be about Vc = 8.0 kips, meaning a failure load of 16 kips. That's pretty close for Beam 5 (failure load of just under 16 kips), but a little low for Beam 6 (failure load of about 18.5 kips). The stirrups maybe provide some help for Beam 6, if only to force the crack to take a steeper incline angle compared to the more traditional shear failures of Beams 3 and 4.
Im a layman. What is a kip? Since you had two points pressing down on the beam until failure what was the total force downward in pounds ?
I LOVED ur videos, especially this, it's kind of hard to find this kind of material with so much quality and professionalism, would like to see more domestic examples from other countries constructive processes and material, as in Mexico is used a pre fabricated steel elements called Armex, and see the pros and cons of confinement process, or called also load-bearing walls.
Greetings guys! Keep the quality
Appreciate your effort! Needs more such stuff!
More to come! I plan on doing new tests each semester, and I have a few other lab tests in my back pocket that might be interesting.
I learnt alot from this video, especially the importance of stirrups.
It appeared that your supports were at the end of the bottom rebar or even somewhat outside of them. You need the steel to extend well beyond the supports.
Yep, I agree 100%. Best practice for simple supports is to terminate the steel at least 6 inches (75 mm) past the face of the support (ACI 318, section 9.7.3.8.1).
Though you can't see it, the same supports and bar termination was done for all the beams. This was done improperly here partially for ease of construction and partially to make a point.
Exactly my thoughts
I think in construction, concrete should leave up to 21 days to dry well
@@jpcraftconstruction.1828 It does get stronger with time, but the reason for failure of the stronger beams was the improper placement of the supports which is misleading in regards to which beams likely would have performed best. The weaker beams didn’t have sufficient capacity to overload the points above the supports, but the stronger beams did. This just confirms why the proper balance is important in design. Making one area stronger simply moves the failure to a different place.
@@StructuresProfH oh ok
This experiment more related to a pre-cast design otherwise development length plays a big role here. Top and bottom extra bars are also play a big role in construction. Also at the L2 should have stirrups closer than in the mid section.
Wonderful beam test and analysis! Thanks for the helpful information.
Thank you! I'm glad you found it helpful.
What about improving the anchoring of beam 6 with L shape binding rebars?
Changing the rebar iron with high tension cable will make more strength?
Possibly, yes. Moment capacity requires a balance of tension (in steel) and compression (in concrete). With low strength concrete, you might not get that much benefit from high strength steel, especially if you can’t yield the steel to use it to the fullest.
Plus, in practice, higher strength materials may run into serviceability or deflection issues - high strength does not always mean high stiffness (for example, all steels have roughly the same elastic modulus, regardless of strength). It may hold the load just fine, but have unacceptable deflections.
Would be very interesting to see the results repeat the test for beam 5 or 6 with development length of the tension rebars.
Is it possible to add a special mixture to concrete castings other than concrete and iron?!😅
What is that a bag or two of cement? What did you need a concrete truck for
what is the strength of the concrete used in the beams ???
Concrete strength was roughly 4 ksi, or about 28 MPa.
How do your beams compare to wood, the second beam for instance?
Would have liked to see when there’s too much tension rebar to create a compression controlled beam.
Thanks; please post concrete compressive strengths too.
For these beams, the concrete strength at testing was only about 3,000 psi (20 MPa). We did not test the rebar yield stress, which would have a greater impact than concrete strength for the flexural capacity.
@@StructuresProfH Thank you. 🙏
Architect here! I have a question does the type of hook provided in the stirrups matter? And how does it affect the Shear capacity of the beam?
As a general rule, a 135-degree hook is better than a 90-degree hook. However, we typically assume that the hooks in the stirrups don't matter for capacity, so long as they satisfy prespecified "standard" hook conditions. So for example, ACI Table 25.3.2 has standard hook geometry for stirrups - as long as we are following (or exceeding) that, we assume we get the full design capacity from the stirrups.
However, there are some conditions where the type of stirrup hook may be more important, like for seismic design (ACI Section 18.6.4) or for beams carrying torsion (ACI Section 25.7.1.6). Again, we treat these prescriptively - the stirrup hook geometry doesn't factor into our design calculations so long as our hooks meet the standard.
Can you also explain rammed earth structure failures compared to concrete beams? Which would be the better option and why?
I’m no expert on rammed earth construction, so I’m afraid I can’t provide much insight. Sorry. That said, structurally it seems limited to walls and other systems that carry relatively low levels of compressive load and essentially no tension. If it’s stabilized with cement and has some rebar, I presume it behaves much like a low strength concrete or CMU wall?
I’m setting a huge HVAC EF heavy piece of equipment on a concrete roof, the roof underneath has concrete beams holding the weight… I’m worried now
Hi, Dr.Broke.. it is amazing veido.. i want to know how you design these beams?? Are you following the ACI cold to determine the dimensions, main reinforced and stirupps ?? Can you let me know . I am interested to know about that. Thanks
Video like this are very resourceful, please make more vids like this sir.
Why didnt you bentup the bars i think by doing that edges of beam wont show signs of failure if you add hoop reinforcement as well
8:18 why not test this supposedly better set of parameters?
Does anyone know of any similar videos for wooden beams of various dimensions? The ICC publishes tables for acceptable beam lengths. It would be interesting to observe the actual failure of wooden beams almost every multi level home is constructed with. I'm a layman. I build off of engineered plans, but often wonder how was this or that computed.
el acero transversal va a menor distancia y mas abundante para contrarestar el esfuerzo de flexion....
shear and anchorage more important, we tends to put less emphasis on them. v good
Can we put I beam with concrete for strong structure?
You can, though the shapes are a little different from the typical I-shape, wide-flange steel beam. A quick search for "prestressed concrete girder" will show that many of these are indeed I-shapes.
Here is an example: www.countymaterials.com/media/zoo/images/janesville_girder1_e0557e2b63f187fde6bb369446a47a69.jpg
Thanks......
The reason for the collapse of the beams in all cases is crushing in the concrete, right?
Brittle failure at the beam ends also
Dear Sir,
First of all, thank you so much for making such a practical video of structure behaviour after applying load.
Would you like to let me know in which software we can make the same animation of any beam and columns carrying load and showing us the results?
Thank you
Dang, I was excited for beam #6. Would love to see it’s potential after anchorage failure issue is addressed.
Working on it!
@@StructuresProfHare u done??
What is the gap or inches of beam 2
Would have liked to see tests 5 and 6 repeated so we can see actual results without the testing environment being the failure cause. Also, when the rebar was placed into the forms, I didn't notice any spacers/chairs on the rebar to prevent it being to close to surface. Were those intentionally left out, or were they just not visible on camera?
I agree. I actually did try these two tests again recently, with three horizontal stirrups/ties placed at the each end above the supports. Ideally, these should have bridged the split that formed at the beam ends. Long story short, it didn't work out, and I got the same failure mode again! Didn't publish a video on it, as I didn't think it added much value. Just goes to show that there is no substitute for good rebar anchorage at the ends.
As for chairs, yes they are there, but rather hard to see. Concrete cover is lower than would normally be acceptable for code (only 0.75 inches), on account of the beam's small scale and these not actually going into a building.
what does anchoring at its ends mean?
Thanks for sharing! Your tension bars do not appear to have been developed; need to hook them at the ends.
Yep. Our other idea, for next time, is to add some horizontal stirrups at the ends, mainly because we have a bunch sitting around the lab.
Good stuff. It looks like bearing failures for those last two. A horizontal U-bar or two at each end at the bottom should do the trick
That's a good idea, Sam! We have a bunch of extra stirrups floating around our lab, so next time I'll drop a few of those horizontally into the end regions. That is an easier fix than making the beams longer (would need new forms) or moving the supports in (lab floor connections are where they are, and not much I can do about that without fabricating new supports).
I really wanted to see a compression-controlled flexural failure, but there is always next time. That would make a good follow-up video.
Hello, sir! I have a question? How do you determine these failure results such displacement and maximum loading before beam's failure in ANSYS?
Also me , I want to know how you design these beams?? Are you following the ACI cold of beam design or how you determined the dimensions, the reinforced of longitude and shear?? I hope to let me know???
Sir
Which is better to install
A girder or a concrte column and beam
It kinda looked like the concrete failure didn't split the aggregate. Weak concrete? At What psi did the cylinders test / break?
It was indeed weak concrete. Cylinders broke at just over 3000 psi (~21 MPa).
I have been searching for this for a very long time )
Prof H, I'd like to run through the same testing you did on our precast concrete products. What were you using for your displacement sensor, pressure sensor, signal conditioning, and your DAQ?
I'm not part of the team that did this, but I may be able to help as I have done these tests in the past (specifically the thirds tests done here). Deflection is usually measured by a laser displacement sensor below the beam or you could use an LVDT for more accurate measurement. For pressure, if youre referring to the force applied to the beam, the test rig (pretty much a specialised hydraulic press) usually has a force and deflection readout. You dont want a pressure readout in these conditions as the diameter of the hydraulic cylinder would then be a factor. The force applied by the press can be halved as shown in the video where P/2 is used to calculate the SFD and BMD for the beam at any point in the test.
Some machines can be set to increase the force applied over time, or deflection over time. For both methods, you will know your beam has failed when the force readout reaches a maximum and then starts to decrease consistently, not just briefly at the point where the steel yields (assuming you haven't over reinforced the beam).
Using the machine in deflection control is usually much safer. Because once the beam fails, the hydraulic cylinder will just coninue downwards at the same, usually very slow, speed. If you use force control, the machine will speed up after failure trying to apply a higher force. This cannot happen after failure due to the beam no longer being able to resist the ULS force which the machine is now trying to surpass.
If/when you conduct these tests, be aware of the very sudden nature in which the beams fail, it can be quite jolting or even quite violent if over reinforced. The over reinforced beams will fail without any warning.
I love structural engineering and CAD simulations, but you really can't beat a real world test!
Your 10 minute-video is worth more than a few days of reading books for the same info. Thanks
I just discovered your videos and I'm already a big fan. However, I am also an amateur to this. I have a couple of questions that I hope are not too naive. First, have you performed any of these tests with GFRP, a fiber reinforced resin based rebar? The second question is where the more experienced people on here might giggle at me. Would it be reasonable to build a metal truss within the cement? It seems that the amount of metal being used in some of your tests could be made to hold a lot more pressure if it were built in a truss pattern instead.
Glad you liked the video!
I haven’t tried any tests with GFRP bars yet, but that would be very interesting. In general, GFRP is higher strength than steel but it lacks ductility, so no more ductile yield plateau behavior. It also has lower stiffness, which can mean larger displacements.
As for the truss, the beam already kinda does that for you - the steel carries the tensile forces while the concrete carries the compression. So the concrete forms the top chord and the “diagonals” of the truss, while the rebar forms the bottom chord and the vertical members. Sure, you could layout the steel in a truss-like configuration, and it may have really great performance, but the standard rebar “cage” is much easier to build.
You just increase the area of the bottom bars. You need cutbars for compression controlled sections (areas near the supports)
thank you, such a very informative video
You're welcome!
Thanks a lot for sharing prof.H
Did you wait 28 days for it to cure fully?
Yes. To clarify, we did a wet cure in the forms for 7 days. After 7 days, we removed the beams from the forms, but they were not tested until just after 28 days.
To be fair though, many concrete structures in practice are loaded at ages much earlier than 28 days, despite that being the “standard” design strength. Strength gain is not linear. You gain most of the strength within the first week, but you can also gain strength (very slowly) for a year or more.
@@StructuresProfH Fantastic, thanks for sharing this video!
You're great explain led sir we need more video about structure design
no vibration????
Hi Prof H, superb test. Very insightful. Instant sub. Thanks! ❤️
P.s: trying to find out info about placing a steel iBeam inside a concrete beam; think it’s called a compound/concealed beam. Are they advisable in a situation with high load? 💭
Wonderful video teacher, well explained. Thanks
You should have bended the rebars at a 90 degree angle at both end of the beams
The parameters should have been bond & anchorage length, minimum reinforcement, shear capacity, flexural requirement against provided reinforcement and load
Firstly, Very Interesting Demonstration. Sir, I have a query. In case of beam 6, although the number of stirrups are sufficient and closely spaced enough why are we having shear failure despite having shear capacity to be on higher side? Also, why the main longitudinal bars are pulling out? are those not properly anchored and embedded in the concrete? and also, Why shear failure is coming in beam 6 even though we have enough shear capacity. I will be glad if you can please elaborate and resolve my query.
The longitudinal bars for beam 6 are definitely not anchored properly. They have a relatively large diameter, no hooks or anything to keep them in place, and the end of the bar was directly above the support. Ordinarily (and per ACI 318 code) you would need these bars to extend at least 6 inches past the face of the support. Once the bar started to pull out, it initiates into a shear-like failure. Though some of the simplified code equations for shear capacity neglect it, the longitudinal bars do play an integral role in developing shear capacity; in this case there was effectively no longitudinal steel area at the ends after bar pullout. I call it "shear-like" because unlike a traditional shear failure, which would be expected to follow more of a diagonal crack path, the crack extended at a very steep angle from the support. So I guess I'd call it more of a combined anchorage-bearing-shear failure, but initially caused by the poor anchorage.
@@StructuresProfH Sir, you meant at the support end stirrups were not there to anchor the longitudinal bars? Otherwise it would not have undergone pull-out. However, I meant enough shear capacity in the sense that stirrups provided were sufficient enough to provide shear capacity. Since, the bars pulled out at first place due to ineffective anchorage the stirrups didn't play any role. Am I correct?
I bet your classes would have been a blast. Unfortunately, i was finishing my masters when you started.
7 days only?
Sorry, I realized I wasn’t clear on that in the video. We removed the beams from the forms at 7 days but tested at 28 days.
Can i use your videos to my channel to explain the same in my regional language
Sorry, I would prefer not. My videos are not licensed under Creative Commons.
"For you folks in metric" literally everybody outside the US, and a bunch inside the US.
Shout out to the rest of the world, and thanks for watching!
I'll always have a place in my heart for English units though.
And now, a video about real buildings where concrete beams are loaded that way...
It seems to me like beam 5 needs to be longer. The weight can't break it at the center so it breaks it at the end since thats where the opposing force is
You will have much more shear breaking in short beams and momentum breaking in long ones
Thanks very much Prof. Appreciate it.
u need make negative iron for strong resist
Asked Claude 3.5 :
Let me explain why rebars are often placed at the bottom of beams:
Tension zone:
When a beam is loaded from the top, the bottom of the beam experiences tension.
Concrete is strong in compression but weak in tension.
Steel rebars are added to the bottom to handle these tensile forces.
Bending moment:
The maximum bending moment in a simply supported beam typically occurs at the middle of the span.
This creates the greatest tension at the bottom of the beam in this area.
Compression zone:
The top of the beam is typically in compression when loaded from above.
Concrete is already strong in compression, so it often doesn't need as much reinforcement there.
Testing to failure:
In tests, placing the rebar at the bottom allows researchers to observe how the beam behaves under typical loading conditions.
They can see how the concrete cracks and how the steel reinforcement performs.
However, it's important to note that in real-world applications, beams often do have some reinforcement at the top as well, especially for:
Negative bending moments over supports in continuous beams
Shrinkage and temperature control
Torsional resistance
Compression reinforcement in some designs
You are a genius!
I knew number 2 will be better that the rest.
How is it that nobody’s pointing out in the comment section that they use the a concrete truck for this little bit of concrete 😂😂
One cubic yard! Yeah, it’s a ridiculously small load, but our concrete supplier is really great about this kind of stuff. It’s certainly easier than mixing by hand (don’t have a drum mixer with this capacity).
Load on beam ❤ beam test
Brilliant dear sir!
Need matches with. Theory?
it is need a cranked bar to avoid bending the beam
Thanks you sir
It was a great video
Great content
Your Stirrup bending doesn't follow standards, and vertical bars should overlap columns bars. These are not actual stress conditions for beams.
i learned from this..
Is a misleading video 😢. When you didn't extend and anchor your reinforcement accurately, what do you expect?
Was thinking same
And consider that these beams were otherwise constructed with care, out in the wild partiality skilled labor and / or poor quality materials further reduce the strength of the construction.
tie the iron link like a fool tie, and there are too many cavities in the beam
i thought you're supposed to waith at least 28 days for proper cure?
Sorry, I wasn’t clear in the video. We did a wet cure (with burlap) for 7 days. We tested roughly one month after casting.
That said, there are many applications in the real world where concrete is loaded well before 28 days, and concrete will continue to gain strength even after 28 days. It’s more accurate to say that 28 days is the laboratory standard.
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5 & 6 beams didn't fail but the testing equipment failed actually
5 and 6 must be the strongest because the failure occur where the steel and bars end 🤔
Thank u prof❤
Brotha for accurate test you suppose to do a 7 day, 30 day and a 60 day. Those are thick so it’ll probably take a little longer to mature. 7 days is not a lot of time to mature.
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7 days?😂
Thank You
❤thank you
beam 6 Failure was due tot he fact that Steel is not over the points stress and the Concrete Cracks.
Such a good video tainted by imperial units 🤢
hay muchas cosas que decis que no estan bien teoricamente