I want to see what qualcomm makes next till now their chips have not been able to compete with Apple, but with this move they just might become as competent as Apple at making ARM chips.
AMD has been developing their ARM chip for years. I get the feeling the only reason they're not announcing it yet is because their x86 chips are still selling really well. They'll probably wait a few more years before revealing their ARM stuff.
And this when Samsung stupidly shut down their custom cpu division entirely. Custom cpus were not the issue. The custom large cores were. The regular customized arm cores were previously superior. And even the failed large cores were going to see improvements. And even then the failure needed different management and expectations to fix them. Not killing it
@@VibezVideo obviously not. And everything i said was fact. Their previous regular custom cores were one of the things that always made the exynos overall more powerful and efficient. Why it used to be ahead. Which means many years, lots of money, and lots of effort were well put into their cpu division long before the custom large cores of the past couple years. And there are always hurdles when creating large custom cores. Apple even struggled for at least a couple years to keep them more in check. Less oven like and more efficient. Plus clearly by the results the issue was not just being early into new designing, but clearly being pushed to chase numbers. High clock rates and most of all benchmark scores. Not efficiency. Which has to do with higher up demands. So it's not the cpu division or design team that was the biggest issue. It was retarded ceos and decision makers looking for unrealistic results. Especially during such a fragile process. And despite all that some progress was made with the cores and more would have been. Just made it take longer. Thus meaning that the last couple years was not the colossal waist of money and time. Stupidly closing it all down and throwing all the work, money, effort, and time from the past decade down the drain over it was what made it a colossal waist of time and money.
@@jackskellington9570 So, to make that assumption you must know what was happening behind the scenes at the Samsung Austin R&D Center, right? For Samsung to make that decision themselves, that means they did it knowing full well that things weren't working the way they expected at SARC. Their engineering team was comprised of people behind failed cpu designs like amd's bulldozer and Excavator cores which were more power hungry than power efficient and those failed designs dripped their failures in Samsung's custom cores. Samsung let them go because it most probably wasn't working anymore for them and for other reasons unknown to everyone outside of Samsung themselves.
It is good news, that this technology is now available to the wider industry. Unfortunately, Qualcomm will now even more corner the market with their anticompetitive business practices. Seeing this together with NVidia's ARM persuit Hopefully RiscV will be able break open this monopoly some time soon.
The startup in question, is Nuvia. Run by Gerard Williams III who used to be one of the chief engineers for Apple cpus and he wasn't the only one. Nuvia currently makes high performance cpu cores for the server market which means it'll take a while before we see any mobile cpu cores in Qualcomm Snapdragon cpus assuming that Qualcomm bought Nuvia for that reason, since Qualcomm makes or made server cpus, a sector they've now fallen behind in. The most logical assumption for now is that they'll be used to help Qualcomm re-enter the server market again with maybe an expansion to mobile cpus in the future.
Well technology has a way of trickling down to the Mobile Sector so even of they develop Server Chips they can use some strategies from the Server division in the mobile division.
wow, it's such crazy times isn't it: - Nvidia is buying ARM - Qualcomm is buying Nuvia - AMD is buying Xilinx - Apple leaves Intel to move to ARM - Samsung is moving to AMD graphics - Intel is moving to TSMC fabs - AMD destroying Intel (currently) - RISC-V taking off - ARM leads the TOP-100 Super Computers (Fujitsu A64FX) Can anyone think of any other big changes happening right now?
@@darkerm76 I would really love to see Nvidia push Nintendo to make a proper ultra powerful console, I'm thinking Apple like design but much more powerful, more cores and RTX graphics!
Samsung should focus on its Exynos processors now more than ever. It's good that they are doing partnership with AMD. They will start facing some serious competition from Qualcomm and Apple.
And unfortunately what they have done is the opposite. The recent move has only balanced them out. But eliminated flexibility and progress. Unless they reopen a custom core division again.
Between this, the Apple Silicon, the rumored AMD-Samsung deal for graphics, it's starting to get more exciting than ever in the ARM world. And a new Switch SoC is rumored to be happening... There is also the nice perspective of having multiple CPU design companies in the consumer ARM world, unlike x86 in which we basically have only Intel and AMD (talking consumer, beware). In ARM we have Qualcomm, Exynos, Nvidia, Apple, Mediatek, Xiaomi Surge, Broadcom, and AMD is rumored to be working on it on its own...
Exynos is not a company, is a brand, Samsung Electronics is the company. And xiaomi dropped their SoC businesses. There is also Hisilicon Unisoc Rockchip Amlogic Allwinner Realtek Ampere Marvell to name a few
@@dreamzbg9477 I know Exynos is Samsung-owned... So you know things, thanks for letting us know... And of course I forgot ARM names, but was it necessary to say them all to get the point?
But the ARM isa is owned by a single company, so it's a monopoly all the same. If Nvidia gets their way and buys ARM, they'll have way too much power on their hands. At least when it comes to x86, AMD and Intel have a good competition going for them. But Nvidia will get the whole ARM pie and I don't think that's good for the industry.
Thanks Gary for the UP on this, really good news, glad I bought the Mini M1 and Davinci Resolve, loving it so far who knows what the future holds and some interesting competition for Apple and their steep prices
@FichDich InDemArsch Jim keller is a guy who moves from company to company taking big projects and completing them successfully. Yeah, he was the ceo/cfo or in high positions in many companies including amd, tesla, apple. Basically, he's a legend in the silicon industry.
Sounds like QCOM got a great deal with such a large talent group. With increased cloud computing and telecommunity, consumers will benefit with improved server processing power.
You are very right Gary about Nuvia letting itself to be bought by Qualcomm, there's clearly some chemistry going on with the R&D guys... I said it about 7 years ago that ARM is the future and RISC processors will take over traditional consumer computing devices like laptops.
Revenge of RISK architecture! Initially, 30-ish years ago, it seemed a no brainer, then CISC guys (Intel, basically) got their act together (mostly by borrowing many ideas from the RISC crowd), and now the "pure"(-ish) RISC it back the top dog. This probably has something to do with improved compiler technology, too.
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Interesting. Would love to see more energy efficient chips.
This is huge! If Qualcomm with the help of this guy can design custom cores that are even remotely close to Apple's, this will be huge for PC/phone market!
Since last year the silicone industry is on storm. Death of kirin, Nvidia buying arm, apple m1, samsung x amd now qualcomm buying nuvia. Next 2-3 years are gonna be very exciting
I am really happy that Apple brought their arm chips to laptops and desktops. This has given a much needed kick in the pants to all the sleeping giants in the business. Everyone has to bring in their A game now: Intel's already working on a big-little design with 3d chip stacking, AMD is apparently working on a big-little designs that involve x86 and ARM versions with an integrated FPGA, and now Qualcomm enters the fray.
Wrong this started low key in 2018 with qualcom and MS..every fanboy think the apple does everything..this would have happened even without M1..it was on the roadmap like 6 years before M1
@@Teluric2 Apple's history with ARM goes back to the Newton, the first Apple device to use ARM. Apple then used ARM in iPod in 2001 and then eventually iPhone in 2007. The first Apple developed ARM chip was the A4 from the iPad and later iPhone 4 in 2010. The chip in the Mac Mini Developer Transition Kit used the A12Z chip, an iPad Pro chip. That would later turn into the M1 chip. Also, by 2018, there were already lots of rumors of Apple ditching Intel for their own developed processors, and the rumor became true 2 years later in 2020. I almost forgot to mention that Apple also acquired PA Semi in 2008. So yeah, Apple's path to M1 began way before you believe.
Another nail in the coffin for Intel? At least AMD are talking about producing a hybrid X86 / ARM processor. The Qualcomm news is extremely exciting, because it potentially allows future ARM based Windows 10 laptops to compete at the same level with Apple Silicon Macs.
Hope similar preference Qualcomm will give to Risc V development. It has greater potential to evolved and since it's opensource, must be goes mainstream.
@@yash_kambli Considering that you needs hundreds of millions of dollars to design and manufacture a competitive CPU then that isn't as relevant as you imply.
Of course Apple's top competitors will love that Apple's strongest tech's lead designer is joining someone else... I wouldn't be surprised if it was a collab between multiple companies.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing when I read the notices from the other companies. I wouldn't at all be surprised if MS and Google paid for it indirectly or agreed on investing money in the projects coming out of this.
So we are about to see crazy increases in Qualcomm Snapdragon CPU core sizes, single core, multi core and new custom GPU performance. I know apple is sweating now. I feel a bit bad for Samsung though. As soon as it seemed like they were catching back up with Qualcomm this happened. They can never catch a break huh?
@@GaryExplains I am aware, but there's nothing about Nuvia having an ARMv8 license that means Qualcomm's interest in RISC-V is disappearing; and there's little special about ARMv8 designs that doesn't map to RV64. With NVDA holding ARM, there are a lot of risks now with investments in ARMv8 products over the long term, especially for a large, visible player like Qualcomm.
@@GaryExplains I am pretty sure microcolonel knows what he's talking about, as I met him. Qualcomm is a member of the RISC-V Foundation, so it's not out of the realm of possibilities that they will design RISC-V cores. This could be similar to what Apple did with P.A. Semi, which originally designed POWER chips. Those engineers started designing ARM chips after the acquisition culminating in the A and M series. That said, Qualcomm will probably have a plan in place to design ARM chips too. I am pretty much indifferent, as I will take both ARM and RISC-V chips over power-hungry and underperforming x86 chips.
@@psychicist Under performing X86? sure power hungry, but in comparison to what? AMD or intel?. I can get my R5 5600X down to a power draw of 25W and lose only 23% IPC that is still miles ahead of anything in the arm world. Not to mention all the useful instruction sets X86 has compared to ARM. Intel on the other hand have been struggling to research a node smaller than 14nm for almost a decade. ARM is still far better in power efficiency, and close to beating intel in generic OS tasks. but not performance as a whole. AMD however is on a new level, if a little too expensive right now. ( only managed to sell my R5 3600 to chop more than half off my 5600x at least) :D
It would be great to have a video about what soltware ecosystem that affects us (smartphones, tablets, laptops, desktops). Will Microsoft and Windows be able to use it to create an ecosystem that syncs phone-tablet-laptop-desktop. So far Apple has not completely done that (i.e. no iOS in the MacOS and the reverse).
I mean Apple gas reserved 100% capacity of TSMC's 3nm for an undisclosed period of time & 80% of 5nm fab until this year. Others will share 20% capacity, making me predict om 2 years Apple will kill Nvidia, AMD, Intel, Qualcomm (meaning go the way of Cyrix & 3DFX- Apple won't use their 3rd-party GPUs anymore coz' they're putting everything in SOC- expect Macs this year with the SSD even in SOC- so very fast:-) coz' they won't have 3nm in time (Samsung will create it's own but it'll be an inferior 3nm fab) indefinitely coz' 3nm may be the last size as the industry can't do 1nm (quantum problems). I expect 3nm Macbooks at the end of the year, 3nm iPhones next year:-) making it thinner, less to make, lighter, less heat (less material- lighter, cheaper to make again, lighter to ship)- will kill IBM's server market as well by 2023. I see Apple launching their servers as satellites like Starlink in 2023 for their own Apple Maps imaging (one of the applications) & iCar 2024 most likely launch using ISRO (cheaper launches than SpaceX). 21st century will be amazing- thanks Elon Musk for accelerating everything:-)
Oct. 2020: “Wow, Apple may tip the world of CPU architectures with the M1 ARM SOC...” Jan. 2021: “Wow, Qualcomm just tipped the world of CPU architectures with Nuvias ARM chips, for Microsoft, Google, Android...” Man, it’s not Intel’s happiest hour... 😅
I was hoping the M1 would get Qualcomm to up thier game, not just use a cash solution. Design their own stuff, don't just basically pinch Apple's tech.
Johnny Srouji is the real brains behind Apples silicon. That’s why Apple are so far ahead of the field. Apple also have a water tight deal with ARM, and within a decade they will likely be independent of ARM, in the same way they will be independent of third party GPU’s and Qualcomms Broadband chips. Apple don’t design the fastest silicon for the industry,, they design the fastest silicon for their own software and custom components. Apple didn’t slow down when Williams left, they sped up and are further ahead than people realise. There were more valuable engineers that left Apple, and some of them are at Google.
Looks like Qualcomm desperate for new innovation,, i like it Samsung gonna need to step up their game, Mediatek, please just keep sell affordable good enough chip, market need it to keep price battle going Meanwhile,, Intel being Intel
When you get to this guy's position and station in an industry, it's not just about money. Same thing with Jony Ive, and countless other ex-Apple engineers and designers that have gone on to do other things, it's exactly that... *other* things. I'm sure doing "like last year's model, but less X and more Y" gets boring when you rinse and repeat it 10+ times over. Apple can obviously afford to keep such people for any price, and probably gave it a fair try. I'm betting it was more about doing something entirely new (because of course it legally couldn't infringe Apple's IP or NDAs) with a different team that Apple wouldn't have gone for since they already have a winner in their chosen markets.
Damn! i thought 888 was good. Now i got to wait till Nuvia-snaprograon processor to replace my phone. Well 1.4B$ is peanuts for Apple, they cud have bought Nuvia to protect talents from poachers. But even Apple knows ARM tech is at its peak and competitors wud eventually match them with or without Apple's talent. And from on the fight is in Datacenter , the area in which Apple is not competing
Late to the party here, as usual. But I’d like to mention that Gerard was one of only a few Fellows at ARM before leaving for Apple. This journey didn’t just start at Apple in 2010. And it will be interesting to see what QComm comes up with next with this new talent in-house.
@@whiterabbit8675 Well I guess Qualcomm is actually planning to use Nuvia's tech in some form or the other in smartphone SoCs too. It clearly states on their official website that this will redefine the premium smartphone performance.
@@johnybro250 depends how much of Nuvia’s existing processor design can he directly applied to an SOC for smartphones. Nuvia said they were working on chips for servers. They’re getting the design skills of the people. But if they’ve got to go back to square one to design an SOC for a smart phone, it could easily be 4-5 years before something makes it to retail. If the chip design Nuvia was already working is efficient enough to be used in a phone, then that cuts the timeline significantly.
So, I'm not an electronic expert, but, does this means androids are getting better in future Snapdragon Chipsets with better architecture than today's Snapdragon Chipsets? Not comparing them against Apple's Bionic though
I am wondering why Apple couldn't stop Nuvia? An anti-competetive agreement is pretty standard in the tech industry, and as Gary said, Nuvia guys must have signed that when joining Apple. So it should have been pretty easy for Apple to stop the formation of Nuvia, and also this Qualcomn deal.
Maybe that's why Nuvia was going for the server market, which doesn't compete with Apple's market segment. Don't know what's gonna happen now that Qualcomn got Nuvia though.
Here it begins.... chip war is heating up and the winner is the consumers😍🤩🤩🤩
Now just waiting for all out war and prices to drop
Here here!
Right
Can't wait. Tired of apple getting so much their their A series processors.
I want to see what qualcomm makes next till now their chips have not been able to compete with Apple, but with this move they just might become as competent as Apple at making ARM chips.
Holy cores!! 💜
Cores 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Holy FinFET
@@nicholasscafe holy high-k-metal gate. 😂
Wtffff
🤣🤣👏👏
The companies : *compete with each other for making the best processors*
Consumers : yes yes yes yes yes.... Yes!!!
Intel: no no no no no no no.... No!!!
It's high time AMD and intel started developing their own version of ARM chips.
AMD has been developing their ARM chip for years. I get the feeling the only reason they're not announcing it yet is because their x86 chips are still selling really well. They'll probably wait a few more years before revealing their ARM stuff.
Isnt the microsoft ARM chip coengineered with AMD already?
First microsoft needs to launch a Arm version of windows
No they will jump to risc
@@adityajadhav3045 They did so long ago
Dang, did not expect this.
Omg....Samsung's amd GPU and now Qualcomm got apple CPU designer
And Samsung making qualcomm cpus
@@triforceparas5658 next time who knows Samsung gonna make it or not...maybe tsmc or maybe samsung
And this when Samsung stupidly shut down their custom cpu division entirely.
Custom cpus were not the issue. The custom large cores were. The regular customized arm cores were previously superior.
And even the failed large cores were going to see improvements. And even then the failure needed different management and expectations to fix them. Not killing it
@@VibezVideo obviously not. And everything i said was fact. Their previous regular custom cores were one of the things that always made the exynos overall more powerful and efficient.
Why it used to be ahead.
Which means many years, lots of money, and lots of effort were well put into their cpu division long before the custom large cores of the past couple years.
And there are always hurdles when creating large custom cores. Apple even struggled for at least a couple years to keep them more in check. Less oven like and more efficient.
Plus clearly by the results the issue was not just being early into new designing, but clearly being pushed to chase numbers. High clock rates and most of all benchmark scores.
Not efficiency. Which has to do with higher up demands.
So it's not the cpu division or design team that was the biggest issue. It was retarded ceos and decision makers looking for unrealistic results. Especially during such a fragile process.
And despite all that some progress was made with the cores and more would have been. Just made it take longer.
Thus meaning that the last couple years was not the colossal waist of money and time. Stupidly closing it all down and throwing all the work, money, effort, and time from the past decade down the drain over it was what made it a colossal waist of time and money.
@@jackskellington9570 So, to make that assumption you must know what was happening behind the scenes at the Samsung Austin R&D Center, right? For Samsung to make that decision themselves, that means they did it knowing full well that things weren't working the way they expected at SARC. Their engineering team was comprised of people behind failed cpu designs like amd's bulldozer and Excavator cores which were more power hungry than power efficient and those failed designs dripped their failures in Samsung's custom cores. Samsung let them go because it most probably wasn't working anymore for them and for other reasons unknown to everyone outside of Samsung themselves.
It is good news, that this technology is now available to the wider industry.
Unfortunately, Qualcomm will now even more corner the market with their anticompetitive business practices.
Seeing this together with NVidia's ARM persuit
Hopefully RiscV will be able break open this monopoly some time soon.
The cpu wars are getting more interesting every year
I consider that 1.4billions is little compres with huge enormous quantity of talent gathered there!
This was a clever move from Qualcomm
Imagine all the talents quit immediately on acquisition, and then form a new company again!!
The startup in question, is Nuvia. Run by Gerard Williams III who used to be one of the chief engineers for Apple cpus and he wasn't the only one. Nuvia currently makes high performance cpu cores for the server market which means it'll take a while before we see any mobile cpu cores in Qualcomm Snapdragon cpus assuming that Qualcomm bought Nuvia for that reason, since Qualcomm makes or made server cpus, a sector they've now fallen behind in. The most logical assumption for now is that they'll be used to help Qualcomm re-enter the server market again with maybe an expansion to mobile cpus in the future.
Well technology has a way of trickling down to the Mobile Sector so even of they develop Server Chips they can use some strategies from the Server division in the mobile division.
That's exactly what Gary said in the video
wow, it's such crazy times isn't it:
- Nvidia is buying ARM
- Qualcomm is buying Nuvia
- AMD is buying Xilinx
- Apple leaves Intel to move to ARM
- Samsung is moving to AMD graphics
- Intel is moving to TSMC fabs
- AMD destroying Intel (currently)
- RISC-V taking off
- ARM leads the TOP-100 Super Computers (Fujitsu A64FX)
Can anyone think of any other big changes happening right now?
Microsoft buying Nintendo 🤔
@@darkerm76 I would really love to see Nvidia push Nintendo to make a proper ultra powerful console, I'm thinking Apple like design but much more powerful, more cores and RTX graphics!
@@darkerm76 why you want the nintendo to go to hell 🥺
Intel buying MediaTek.
@@wvv3758 I would doubt it, MediaTek only just acquired Intel’s Enpirion Power Solutions business for $85 million in November.
Samsung should focus on its Exynos processors now more than ever. It's good that they are doing partnership with AMD.
They will start facing some serious competition from Qualcomm and Apple.
And unfortunately what they have done is the opposite. The recent move has only balanced them out. But eliminated flexibility and progress.
Unless they reopen a custom core division again.
Just when i get ready to leave all Qualcomm devices alone as Samsung is releasing the Eynos SOC. Qualcomm hit Samsung over the head with this.
No problem bruhh Samsung f*** both with AMD collaboration
@@kcsbalaji3527 Hahaha good joke
@@Ignacio.Romero I hope nd let's see dude what happens
Same , that's what I also felt . Qualcomm would be a force to be reckoned with.
@@kcsbalaji3527 qcom uses Amd ip in their gpus.
“Come, Watson, come. The game is afoot. Not a word!
Sherlock
Smart move from Qualcomm. I wonder how long ago this was planned? Williams probably couldn’t just leave for Qualcomm.
Still no CPUs from Qualcomm
This is what competition looks like
Probably this year we will witness one of the biggest advancements in the history of micro industry
What a bargain! They could make their money back very quickly. I hope to see some surprising great stuff carry over to the consumer market from this.
Between this, the Apple Silicon, the rumored AMD-Samsung deal for graphics, it's starting to get more exciting than ever in the ARM world. And a new Switch SoC is rumored to be happening...
There is also the nice perspective of having multiple CPU design companies in the consumer ARM world, unlike x86 in which we basically have only Intel and AMD (talking consumer, beware). In ARM we have Qualcomm, Exynos, Nvidia, Apple, Mediatek, Xiaomi Surge, Broadcom, and AMD is rumored to be working on it on its own...
8086 is seeing its twilight, finally!
If risc v gained traction significantly in near future then Arm will have to faced steep competition and it may lost probably .
Exynos is not a company, is a brand, Samsung Electronics is the company. And xiaomi dropped their SoC businesses. There is also Hisilicon Unisoc Rockchip Amlogic Allwinner Realtek Ampere Marvell to name a few
@@dreamzbg9477 I know Exynos is Samsung-owned... So you know things, thanks for letting us know... And of course I forgot ARM names, but was it necessary to say them all to get the point?
But the ARM isa is owned by a single company, so it's a monopoly all the same. If Nvidia gets their way and buys ARM, they'll have way too much power on their hands. At least when it comes to x86, AMD and Intel have a good competition going for them. But Nvidia will get the whole ARM pie and I don't think that's good for the industry.
Thanks Gary for the UP on this, really good news, glad I bought the Mini M1 and Davinci Resolve, loving it so far who knows what the future holds and some interesting competition for Apple and their steep prices
2020 entire human race start with a weird year...
2021 human let make this years epic come back
No worries. General Tso Joe is coming to save humanity 😉
This is crazy.... Nuvia I heard about this before
It was growing quite well & now this happened...!
Qualcomm to Samsung:The real game begins now
Awesome, great movement Qualcom!!!
But nobody is more famous than Silicon Ronin Jim Keller... :D
@FichDich InDemArsch You dare to ask that question?!? :D
@FichDich InDemArsch Jim keller is a guy who moves from company to company taking big projects and completing them successfully.
Yeah, he was the ceo/cfo or in high positions in many companies including amd, tesla, apple. Basically, he's a legend in the silicon industry.
Imagine AMD bought them and started making ARM chips
Hope that was the case, but it's not happening
Buy their is some rumor about amd development of arm chip
AMD already make Arm chips.
@@GaryExplains yeah and people forget qcoms gpu is based on Amd tech and ip 😂
@@ashishpatel350 It was based on AMD's tech 10 years ago, not now. 10 years is a long time in tech.
@@GaryExplainsthere are some rumor that amd have a successor to k12, and It is in phototype stages
Let the race begin!
Sounds like QCOM got a great deal with such a large talent group. With increased cloud computing and telecommunity, consumers will benefit with improved server processing power.
You are very right Gary about Nuvia letting itself to be bought by Qualcomm, there's clearly some chemistry going on with the R&D guys... I said it about 7 years ago that ARM is the future and RISC processors will take over traditional consumer computing devices like laptops.
Samsung: We panther with AMD
Qualcomm: Let's we introduce our Nuvia
I was about to say the same thing 👍
Afterall Adreno was AMD venture
Panthers love AMD
Yes cpu boost is qualcomm what qualcomm need the most, can't wait what will it bring.
@beserk lee Wakanda forever
I found Nuvia very good for dry skin.
Yeah and Nivia is really good at CPU designs.
@@asandax6 lmao
everyone is happy because they are expecting m1 chip level performance from new qcom chips and 2021 is off to a great start
Yes absolutely correct 👍🏻😎
So m1 to everyone. This is the best time for consumers
A positive Hope 🤞
This is a huge boost for qualcomm
Revenge of RISK architecture! Initially, 30-ish years ago, it seemed a no brainer, then CISC guys (Intel, basically) got their act together (mostly by borrowing many ideas from the RISC crowd), and now the "pure"(-ish) RISC it back the top dog. This probably has something to do with improved compiler technology, too.
Interesting. Would love to see more energy efficient chips.
This is huge! If Qualcomm with the help of this guy can design custom cores that are even remotely close to Apple's, this will be huge for PC/phone market!
Yes cpu boost is what qualcomm need the most, can't wait what will it bring.
Since last year the silicone industry is on storm.
Death of kirin, Nvidia buying arm, apple m1, samsung x amd now qualcomm buying nuvia.
Next 2-3 years are gonna be very exciting
I am really happy that Apple brought their arm chips to laptops and desktops. This has given a much needed kick in the pants to all the sleeping giants in the business. Everyone has to bring in their A game now: Intel's already working on a big-little design with 3d chip stacking, AMD is apparently working on a big-little designs that involve x86 and ARM versions with an integrated FPGA, and now Qualcomm enters the fray.
Wrong this started low key in 2018 with qualcom and MS..every fanboy think the apple does everything..this would have happened even without M1..it was on the roadmap like 6 years before M1
@@Teluric2 Apple's history with ARM goes back to the Newton, the first Apple device to use ARM. Apple then used ARM in iPod in 2001 and then eventually iPhone in 2007. The first Apple developed ARM chip was the A4 from the iPad and later iPhone 4 in 2010. The chip in the Mac Mini Developer Transition Kit used the A12Z chip, an iPad Pro chip. That would later turn into the M1 chip. Also, by 2018, there were already lots of rumors of Apple ditching Intel for their own developed processors, and the rumor became true 2 years later in 2020. I almost forgot to mention that Apple also acquired PA Semi in 2008. So yeah, Apple's path to M1 began way before you believe.
Another nail in the coffin for Intel? At least AMD are talking about producing a hybrid X86 / ARM processor. The Qualcomm news is extremely exciting, because it potentially allows future ARM based Windows 10 laptops to compete at the same level with Apple Silicon Macs.
Intel already has a chip using the BIG.little tech.
Looks even better for the mobile, server and super computer world.
If you can't beat them... buy them
Apple:- Loses their talented chipset team
Samsung:- Partners with AMD
Qualcomm:- Buys Nuvia
As an android user, I'm loving this😂
Me too bro 😀😝😁
Soo true
No competion is key to prevent stagnation
enjoy now the crappy 5nm from samsung
NVidia: Don’t forget to pay us your royalties for all your ARMs.
just love it. Go qualcomm and Nuvia
Hope similar preference Qualcomm will give to Risc V development. It has greater potential to evolved and since it's opensource, must be goes mainstream.
Depends what you mean by "open source". Only the ISA is open source.
@@GaryExplains yes but atleast ISA is open-source unlike Arm where it does charges millions of dollar with too much legal stuff, terms and conditions.
@@yash_kambli Considering that you needs hundreds of millions of dollars to design and manufacture a competitive CPU then that isn't as relevant as you imply.
Of course Apple's top competitors will love that Apple's strongest tech's lead designer is joining someone else... I wouldn't be surprised if it was a collab between multiple companies.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing when I read the notices from the other companies. I wouldn't at all be surprised if MS and Google paid for it indirectly or agreed on investing money in the projects coming out of this.
@@mplovecraft Yeah, it's all a conspiracy 😄 Maybe Qualcomm just want to improve their SoCs
@@franklingoodwin what, no conspiracy theory? Are you sure you belong in the TH-cam comments section?
@@williamp6800 😂
But apple wins the battle in software optimisation.
True 😎😎😎😎😎😎
Nobody asked. Do you know why? It's not relevant to the topic of the video
Wow, this is significant!
So we are about to see crazy increases in Qualcomm Snapdragon CPU core sizes, single core, multi core and new custom GPU performance.
I know apple is sweating now. I feel a bit bad for Samsung though. As soon as it seemed like they were catching back up with Qualcomm this happened. They can never catch a break huh?
Lol thought the same
Thank you professor Gary for the news and explanation! Very interesting
Very nice video... please keep us updated like that.
Awesome 👌
Whatever happens, we customers are going to benefited a lot either way 🧡🧡
This news is far far more exciting than new galaxy phones. Thanks gary
Please don't stop making videos. You are the only one whom i can understand ❤️👍
Hehe, let the new ARMs race begin :)
More like the ARM wrestling begin 😉
Hope so , better and powerful chips come for Android...
now qualcomm with nuvia.
is it posible that the qualcomm let the kryo core and make a new one?
This could also mean high performance RISC-V cores from Qualcomm.
No. Nuvia uses the Arm ISA.
@@GaryExplains I am aware, but there's nothing about Nuvia having an ARMv8 license that means Qualcomm's interest in RISC-V is disappearing; and there's little special about ARMv8 designs that doesn't map to RV64.
With NVDA holding ARM, there are a lot of risks now with investments in ARMv8 products over the long term, especially for a large, visible player like Qualcomm.
@@microcolonel NUVIA has an ARMv8 architectural license. If Qualcomm wanted to use RISC-V it wouldn't buy NUVIA, wrong fit completely.
@@GaryExplains I am pretty sure microcolonel knows what he's talking about, as I met him. Qualcomm is a member of the RISC-V Foundation, so it's not out of the realm of possibilities that they will design RISC-V cores. This could be similar to what Apple did with P.A. Semi, which originally designed POWER chips. Those engineers started designing ARM chips after the acquisition culminating in the A and M series.
That said, Qualcomm will probably have a plan in place to design ARM chips too. I am pretty much indifferent, as I will take both ARM and RISC-V chips over power-hungry and underperforming x86 chips.
@@psychicist Under performing X86? sure power hungry, but in comparison to what? AMD or intel?. I can get my R5 5600X down to a power draw of 25W and lose only 23% IPC that is still miles ahead of anything in the arm world. Not to mention all the useful instruction sets X86 has compared to ARM. Intel on the other hand have been struggling to research a node smaller than 14nm for almost a decade. ARM is still far better in power efficiency, and close to beating intel in generic OS tasks. but not performance as a whole. AMD however is on a new level, if a little too expensive right now. ( only managed to sell my R5 3600 to chop more than half off my 5600x at least) :D
It would be great to have a video about what soltware ecosystem that affects us (smartphones, tablets, laptops, desktops). Will Microsoft and Windows be able to use it to create an ecosystem that syncs phone-tablet-laptop-desktop. So far Apple has not completely done that (i.e. no iOS in the MacOS and the reverse).
woah not expected seriously
Wow this is awesome. What else can I say....
Thanks for the video!
It is not just one person. It is teamwork.
Awesome and good for the Masses...We are the WORLD......
Does Nuvia contribute to the RISC-V project?
That’s a good question!
No. Nuvia's CPU is based on the Arm architecture.
Oh game on
2021 and here are some crazy news 😂
Interesting. But they don't have the fab, the 3nm fab.
Apple has Johny Srouji, the guy we always see on the Apple Events (underground, supposedly).
No one "has the fab". All these companies including AMD, Apple, Qualcomm use third parties to manufacture the chips.
Err.. all of them use Samsung and TSMC for the fabs.
I mean Apple gas reserved 100% capacity of TSMC's 3nm for an undisclosed period of time & 80% of 5nm fab until this year. Others will share 20% capacity, making me predict om 2 years Apple will kill Nvidia, AMD, Intel, Qualcomm (meaning go the way of Cyrix & 3DFX- Apple won't use their 3rd-party GPUs anymore coz' they're putting everything in SOC- expect Macs this year with the SSD even in SOC- so very fast:-) coz' they won't have 3nm in time (Samsung will create it's own but it'll be an inferior 3nm fab) indefinitely coz' 3nm may be the last size as the industry can't do 1nm (quantum problems). I expect 3nm Macbooks at the end of the year, 3nm iPhones next year:-) making it thinner, less to make, lighter, less heat (less material- lighter, cheaper to make again, lighter to ship)- will kill IBM's server market as well by 2023. I see Apple launching their servers as satellites like Starlink in 2023 for their own Apple Maps imaging (one of the applications) & iCar 2024 most likely launch using ISRO (cheaper launches than SpaceX). 21st century will be amazing- thanks Elon Musk for accelerating everything:-)
I bought my first stock off this video. Wish me luck!
Mormon
What did you buy, Qualcomm?
Fantastic news
Holy Silicon🤯
⏳ 2:40 "...ARM have been *_chipping_*_ away_ at that..." 🤣 LOL, pun intended @Gary Explains ? ^_^
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This is good news, a real competition in the smartphone and PC world, Apple watch your back
Oct. 2020: “Wow, Apple may tip the world of CPU architectures with the M1 ARM SOC...”
Jan. 2021: “Wow, Qualcomm just tipped the world of CPU architectures with Nuvias ARM chips, for Microsoft, Google, Android...”
Man, it’s not Intel’s happiest hour... 😅
He's smart as f to ditch Apple, make his own company and sell it for billions. What a way to get rich at the right time
I was hoping the M1 would get Qualcomm to up thier game, not just use a cash solution.
Design their own stuff, don't just basically pinch Apple's tech.
Johnny Srouji is the real brains behind Apples silicon. That’s why Apple are so far ahead of the field. Apple also have a water tight deal with ARM, and within a decade they will likely be independent of ARM, in the same way they will be independent of third party GPU’s and Qualcomms Broadband chips. Apple don’t design the fastest silicon for the industry,, they design the fastest silicon for their own software and custom components. Apple didn’t slow down when Williams left, they sped up and are further ahead than people realise. There were more valuable engineers that left Apple, and some of them are at Google.
I don't remember saying anything about Apple slowing down. This is about Qualcomm, not Apple.
We customers want competition in every department
Looks like Qualcomm desperate for new innovation,, i like it
Samsung gonna need to step up their game,
Mediatek, please just keep sell affordable good enough chip, market need it to keep price battle going
Meanwhile,, Intel being Intel
I always wonder if ARM is effective , why they are no ARM based CPU's intended for high end gaming
Software is not ready and gpu cores for arm need more muscle, wait a year or two. Supercomputers are way ahead on arm compared to consumer chips.
If I were Apple I would give that man billions to keep him.
When you get to this guy's position and station in an industry, it's not just about money. Same thing with Jony Ive, and countless other ex-Apple engineers and designers that have gone on to do other things, it's exactly that... *other* things. I'm sure doing "like last year's model, but less X and more Y" gets boring when you rinse and repeat it 10+ times over. Apple can obviously afford to keep such people for any price, and probably gave it a fair try. I'm betting it was more about doing something entirely new (because of course it legally couldn't infringe Apple's IP or NDAs) with a different team that Apple wouldn't have gone for since they already have a winner in their chosen markets.
Decathlon for the win!
CPU wars, this is going to be great, banzai! no prisoners ! (I hope)
Damn! i thought 888 was good. Now i got to wait till Nuvia-snaprograon processor to replace my phone.
Well 1.4B$ is peanuts for Apple, they cud have bought Nuvia to protect talents from poachers.
But even Apple knows ARM tech is at its peak and competitors wud eventually match them with or without Apple's talent.
And from on the fight is in Datacenter , the area in which Apple is not competing
Great for Qualcommmmmmm
Late to the party here, as usual. But I’d like to mention that Gerard was one of only a few Fellows at ARM before leaving for Apple. This journey didn’t just start at Apple in 2010. And it will be interesting to see what QComm comes up with next with this new talent in-house.
Maybe Qualcomm bought Nuvia just to spite Apple
Interesting dynamics..👍
Great move by Qualcomm. This will spur healthy competition.
So does this mean we might see a custom cpu core design for smartphones from Qualcomm in the next two years or so??
I doubt it, Qualcomm used to make fully custom proccescers but gave up a while ago, this is probably for laptops to servers
@@whiterabbit8675 Well I guess Qualcomm is actually planning to use Nuvia's tech in some form or the other in smartphone SoCs too. It clearly states on their official website that this will redefine the premium smartphone performance.
@@johnybro250 depends how much of Nuvia’s existing processor design can he directly applied to an SOC for smartphones. Nuvia said they were working on chips for servers.
They’re getting the design skills of the people. But if they’ve got to go back to square one to design an SOC for a smart phone, it could easily be 4-5 years before something makes it to retail. If the chip design Nuvia was already working is efficient enough to be used in a phone, then that cuts the timeline significantly.
@@williamp6800 Well they have to start at some point to "redefine" smartphone performance
Yes, with nuvia's talents. Qualcomm can make thier custom cores. I think it's a good idea, since Nvidia acquired arm. So they don't depend on them.
So, I'm not an electronic expert, but, does this means androids are getting better in future Snapdragon Chipsets with better architecture than today's Snapdragon Chipsets? Not comparing them against Apple's Bionic though
I am wondering why Apple couldn't stop Nuvia? An anti-competetive agreement is pretty standard in the tech industry, and as Gary said, Nuvia guys must have signed that when joining Apple. So it should have been pretty easy for Apple to stop the formation of Nuvia, and also this Qualcomn deal.
Maybe that's why Nuvia was going for the server market, which doesn't compete with Apple's market segment. Don't know what's gonna happen now that Qualcomn got Nuvia though.
Sounds Awesome, we should see some healthy competition no chance of a monopoly by Apple.
The fallout from this should make the next 5 years very interesting and exciting.
They call that an "aquihire". To be honest, it is usually done at a discount to the company's original projected value.
Is Gerald Williams 3rd same caliber as chip God Jim Keller?
The start of the competition catching up with apple and even beating them now
I am here to just remind people where it all started 😂 Hi guys come let's remind ourselves.
Checkmate! LOL
Thank you so much for this video 👍🏻👌🏻✌🏻
Can they use the exact same CPU architecture as Apple processors for snapdragon?