Dit was nou n baie lekker en interresante video,baie dankie Koos en Kapt. Pienaar.My naam is Lauwrins Prinsloo ek is nog tans n Polisieman met 37 jr diens aangestel 30 Des 1986.My loopbaan begin by Onluste Eenheid 3 Protea Soweto ,het daar op Casspirs gewerk en mal oor hulle baie beter as Nyala.Ek kyk graag al die ou Polisie videos.Het boek van Koevoet van Jim Hooper.Nog altyd baie respek vir Koevoet ouens en praat altyd met groot lof van julle,julle was ysters💪🏻Dankie Kapt vir wat julle gedoen het SALUUT vir julle.Wou altyd so graag by julle eenheid werk.Ek het nog van my camo uniform en is mal oor dit ons Polisie camo bly maar mooiste in wêreld van al magte.Seën🙏sterkte en voorspoed vir julle.
Respect... informative, all that time we got second hand sensational media nonsense...Very entertaining...Didn't know Col Jan Breytenbach taught SAP the ropes.. High time SAP version be heard...Many paid highest price for us..no immediate aknowdledgement..Their next of kin and offspring should know what heroes these fighters were..
Dankie Pine, dit was n interessante vertelling. Ek ken paar van julle soos Gene, Sakkie, Toitjie ens maar ek is bly jy wil ook omsien na ons veterane en deur Legacy fondsinsameling hulle te ondersteun. Ons praat weer.
I read a great book by an American journalist who went on Ops with Koevoet units...fascinating story as is this vid. Just a side note...the local name given for the heavy steel bar used to dig holes in the ground is called a Gwala in the Lowveld and a Koevoet around the Vryburg (NW) area...could it be that the thump sound it makes sounds like explosions in the distance?...just a thought.👍👍
I served in the SADF in 1989/90. I klaared into the Armoured Corps in Feb. and before our first phase Basics was finished, the elections were held in SWA/Namibia and SWAPO crossed the Border en masse. UNTAG couldn't control them, and we were put on stand-by to go up there as (I think) infantry. Luckily for us, Koevoet was on the ball and made sure us untrained troepies didn't get sent up there to die. It would have been a slaughter! The SAP had a different mind-set compared to the regular Army where the police were allowed to think for themselves, while the regular SADF followed orders that were limiting their freedom of action. SADF Special Forces were closer to Koevoet style thinking and tactical awareness.
@rugbyphoto I was pretty narked at the army for that, considering sending us to the Border before we'd even finished 1st phase Basics. Fast forward to Nelson Mandela's release, I was with the Support Squadron, sitting with my R5 in our bungalow in Akkadis Dorp, (right next to the Tempe Base DB) wondering how clerks, tiffies, chefs, drivers, and printers were expected to handle an uprising if it happened. I honestly didn't know if I could trust the SADF at this point. Years later, in early 1994, my Citizen Force unit, 1 Light horse, were sent to do roving roadblocks and patrols around Matatiele on Operation Paal. Once again it was a case of untrained Armoured troops performing infantry duties. That was my last camp. In 1996 or 97, I volunteered for the 2nd Battalion of the Transvaal Scottish. That was fun and fulfilling.
I have fond memories of serving with 2SSB and working that sector around Zeerust and Mmabatho. Kommando (Kevin Venter was our contact) and COIN guys all solid.
@rugbyphoto I klaared in at 2 SSB, but found that camp extremely depressing. I made sure I got selected for JL's to escape there, which wasn't the best mindset with which to start JL's of course.
Johan (Boats), Sampie, Gary, Natie (Drom) ... ek hoop dat dit met julle goed gaan, waar ookal julle mag wees. Daar was niemand soos Z4E se Boats (Botes) nie. Hy was n vreeslose soldaat, en hy was n goeie mens ook daarby. Ek onthou die dag toe daar vanaf baie kort afstand n RPG-75 deur Natie se Casspir is (Z4E4). Ek dink dit was iewers aan die einde van 1985? Daai dag amper uitgeklok. 😳 Die drywer het net uit die kontak uitgery, soos hy geleer is as n Casspir deur iets met n groot plofkop getref is. Ons was bang die ammo begin kook. Daai was die eerste kar in die ganse oorlog wat deur n RPG-75 geskiet is. Ek glo tot vandag toe dat daar geen ander voertuig deur n RPG-75 getref is in die oorlog nie. Miskien is ek verkeerd. Baie RPG-7s ja, maar ek weet net van die een RPG-75. Ons het die eerste kills van die jaar gehad op 4 Januarie 1986. Ek onthou die slaap in die reenseisoen, met die reen wat op die die bivvie val, n paar sentimeters bo jou gesig as jy op jou rug le. Die blou bokse melk wat vir jou spuitpo.p gegee het as jy teveel melk gedrink get. Die canned fruit (perskes). Onthou julle as die spoor warm was, en die een gunship boomtophoogte oor die spoorsnyers gevlieg het om die spoor se rigting vir die voorsnykarre te wys? "Ek vlieg nou oor die spoorsnyers in die rigting van die spoor." Ek het daai in my slaap gehoor vir baie jare nadat ek terug op sivviestraat was. Baie kontakte, baie kills. Ons Owambo spoorsnyers was absoluut die beste. Die beste. Niemand kon beter spoorsny as hulle nie. Ek hoop dat dit met almal wie nog oorleef goed gaan.
easy for people to bitch about tying the bodies to the outside of the Casspirs - easy UNTIL you are there... in a contact and you just shot two enemy soldiers... what you going to do? A> leave them there to rot in the bush, or B> remove the bodies back to base... now i operated in Casspirs in Ovamboland 1984-1986... and as Pine said, the heat is terrible, bodies decompose rather quick... you have 10 people inside a Casspir and its hardly 2 m wide, you also have to bundu bash 50-150 km back through the bush back to base... where are you going to put the bodiws? In the footwell in the centre of the inside of the Casspir and what stand on them all the way back? or strap them outside the vehicle? - you have to be an IDIOT to choose the former
I like your history video. D/Capt Billy Cox. MY FATHER A W COX NO 18239 WASI IN ADDIS ABBABA WWII and I was in Rhodesia in 1969 - 70. I was also in the arrests of terrorists in Johannesburg in 1976. We investigated and prosecuted Terrs. and took them to trial in Pretoria in 1977 - 78. SALUTE THE SAP. Ons was daar. ted
KOOS THE HENSOPPERS WHO DID NOT WANT TO FIGHT AGAINST HILTER AND ROMMEL WERE INTERNED AT KOFFIEFONTEIN WITH B J VORSTER. BROEDERBOND VERRAAIERS. SALUTE
I served under Cpt. Pienaar in the Durban Reaction Unit. I have the greatest respect for him and he was an absolutely brilliant commander and leader.
Dit was nou n baie lekker en interresante video,baie dankie Koos en Kapt. Pienaar.My naam is Lauwrins Prinsloo ek is nog tans n Polisieman met 37 jr diens aangestel 30 Des 1986.My loopbaan begin by Onluste Eenheid 3 Protea Soweto ,het daar op Casspirs gewerk en mal oor hulle baie beter as Nyala.Ek kyk graag al die ou Polisie videos.Het boek van Koevoet van Jim Hooper.Nog altyd baie respek vir Koevoet ouens en praat altyd met groot lof van julle,julle was ysters💪🏻Dankie Kapt vir wat julle gedoen het SALUUT vir julle.Wou altyd so graag by julle eenheid werk.Ek het nog van my camo uniform en is mal oor dit ons Polisie camo bly maar mooiste in wêreld van al magte.Seën🙏sterkte en voorspoed vir julle.
Dankie almal WESSIE KEVIN ect
Thank you, Koos and Captain Pienaar. Very informative and interesting.
Thank you! God bless!
Respect... informative, all that time we got second hand sensational media nonsense...Very entertaining...Didn't know Col Jan Breytenbach taught SAP the ropes..
High time SAP version be heard...Many paid highest price for us..no immediate aknowdledgement..Their next of kin and offspring should know what heroes these fighters were..
Thank you for the great video!!! If znything tge Koevoet Legend only grows👏👏👏
Baie dankie oom dat jy die storie vertel het! Maak my baie trots om 'n suid Afrikaner te wees
Outstanding work. One of my OPS medic platoon was assigned to Koevoet in 88, saw him once at outapi kopshop. Thanks Pine.
Salute / Saluut.
Baie interessant. Dankie Kaptein en Koos
Dankie Pine, dit was n interessante vertelling. Ek ken paar van julle soos Gene, Sakkie, Toitjie ens maar ek is bly jy wil ook omsien na ons veterane en deur Legacy fondsinsameling hulle te ondersteun. Ons praat weer.
Thank you Koos and Capt Pine !!
Envied the Kaspir, remember being overtaken on Johannes se pad in my Buffel by a Kaspir towing a disabled Kaspir.
Thanks .Very interesting.Can you give us more stories about Koevoet
Great video. A pity your training and skills no longer exist in SAPS today. Sad!
I read a great book by an American journalist who went on Ops with Koevoet units...fascinating story as is this vid.
Just a side note...the local name given for the heavy steel bar used to dig holes in the ground is called a Gwala in the Lowveld and a Koevoet around the Vryburg (NW) area...could it be that the thump sound it makes sounds like explosions in the distance?...just a thought.👍👍
The late lt Frans Conradie and I servide together in the Bush war in Rhodesia in 1974 we used to call him Rambo 😢
Baie interessant, kapt Pienaar. Lekker geselsstyl. Koos, sal Arn Durand dalk bereid wees om te gesels?
Dankie Johan Vir die vids ek geniet hulle baie😊
Baie intresant. Dankie
As n ou soldaat en poliesman is dit lekker om daai kant van die storie ook te hoor
51:59😢 53:33😡 53:53💥
Book?
I served in the SADF in 1989/90.
I klaared into the Armoured Corps in Feb. and before our first phase Basics was finished, the elections were held in SWA/Namibia and SWAPO crossed the Border en masse.
UNTAG couldn't control them, and we were put on stand-by to go up there as (I think) infantry.
Luckily for us, Koevoet was on the ball and made sure us untrained troepies didn't get sent up there to die.
It would have been a slaughter!
The SAP had a different mind-set compared to the regular Army where the police were allowed to think for themselves, while the regular SADF followed orders that were limiting their freedom of action.
SADF Special Forces were closer to Koevoet style thinking and tactical awareness.
@@robert-trading-as-Bob69 Same here, was at Pantserskool when that occurred. Glad these fine men sorted out the infiltrators.
@rugbyphoto I was pretty narked at the army for that, considering sending us to the Border before we'd even finished 1st phase Basics.
Fast forward to Nelson Mandela's release, I was with the Support Squadron, sitting with my R5 in our bungalow in Akkadis Dorp, (right next to the Tempe Base DB) wondering how clerks, tiffies, chefs, drivers, and printers were expected to handle an uprising if it happened.
I honestly didn't know if I could trust the SADF at this point.
Years later, in early 1994, my Citizen Force unit, 1 Light horse, were sent to do roving roadblocks and patrols around Matatiele on Operation Paal.
Once again it was a case of untrained Armoured troops performing infantry duties.
That was my last camp.
In 1996 or 97, I volunteered for the 2nd Battalion of the Transvaal Scottish.
That was fun and fulfilling.
Ya Bob, I left 1LH in 95 and moved to Canada. My sense of mission had gone so it was an easy parting by that point.
I have fond memories of serving with 2SSB and working that sector around Zeerust and Mmabatho. Kommando (Kevin Venter was our contact) and COIN guys all solid.
@rugbyphoto I klaared in at 2 SSB, but found that camp extremely depressing.
I made sure I got selected for JL's to escape there, which wasn't the best mindset with which to start JL's of course.
I was scared of koefoet and i was on their side. 😅
Saw a video on Eugene de Kocks Facebook that basically says Koos lied about contacting Eugene. Curious to hear DeKock's version 😂
I never lie. Have a witness. Koos
Johan (Boats), Sampie, Gary, Natie (Drom) ... ek hoop dat dit met julle goed gaan, waar ookal julle mag wees. Daar was niemand soos Z4E se Boats (Botes) nie. Hy was n vreeslose soldaat, en hy was n goeie mens ook daarby. Ek onthou die dag toe daar vanaf baie kort afstand n RPG-75 deur Natie se Casspir is (Z4E4). Ek dink dit was iewers aan die einde van 1985? Daai dag amper uitgeklok. 😳 Die drywer het net uit die kontak uitgery, soos hy geleer is as n Casspir deur iets met n groot plofkop getref is. Ons was bang die ammo begin kook. Daai was die eerste kar in die ganse oorlog wat deur n RPG-75 geskiet is. Ek glo tot vandag toe dat daar geen ander voertuig deur n RPG-75 getref is in die oorlog nie. Miskien is ek verkeerd. Baie RPG-7s ja, maar ek weet net van die een RPG-75. Ons het die eerste kills van die jaar gehad op 4 Januarie 1986. Ek onthou die slaap in die reenseisoen, met die reen wat op die die bivvie val, n paar sentimeters bo jou gesig as jy op jou rug le. Die blou bokse melk wat vir jou spuitpo.p gegee het as jy teveel melk gedrink get. Die canned fruit (perskes). Onthou julle as die spoor warm was, en die een gunship boomtophoogte oor die spoorsnyers gevlieg het om die spoor se rigting vir die voorsnykarre te wys? "Ek vlieg nou oor die spoorsnyers in die rigting van die spoor." Ek het daai in my slaap gehoor vir baie jare nadat ek terug op sivviestraat was. Baie kontakte, baie kills. Ons Owambo spoorsnyers was absoluut die beste. Die beste. Niemand kon beter spoorsny as hulle nie. Ek hoop dat dit met almal wie nog oorleef goed gaan.
It would be ideal to get former Koevoet members to sort of structure the police force and fight organized crime in South Africa.
Salute Pine, julle is ysters!
easy for people to bitch about tying the bodies to the outside of the Casspirs - easy UNTIL you are there... in a contact and you just shot two enemy soldiers... what you going to do? A> leave them there to rot in the bush, or B> remove the bodies back to base... now i operated in Casspirs in Ovamboland 1984-1986... and as Pine said, the heat is terrible, bodies decompose rather quick... you have 10 people inside a Casspir and its hardly 2 m wide, you also have to bundu bash 50-150 km back through the bush back to base... where are you going to put the bodiws? In the footwell in the centre of the inside of the Casspir and what stand on them all the way back? or strap them outside the vehicle? - you have to be an IDIOT to choose the former
You are welcome to record your years with us. Koos
Onthou julle vir Johan Bosch
Generaal sterk Hans was koning
I like your history video. D/Capt Billy Cox. MY FATHER A W COX NO 18239 WASI IN ADDIS ABBABA WWII and I was in Rhodesia in 1969 - 70. I was also in the arrests of terrorists in Johannesburg in 1976. We investigated and prosecuted Terrs. and took them to trial in Pretoria in 1977 - 78. SALUTE THE SAP. Ons was daar.
ted
Come and tell your story and that of your father, Koos
KOOS THE HENSOPPERS WHO DID NOT WANT TO FIGHT AGAINST HILTER AND ROMMEL WERE INTERNED AT KOFFIEFONTEIN WITH B J VORSTER. BROEDERBOND VERRAAIERS. SALUTE
Maj Gen Dreyer those days what a man.
@@LegacyConversations KOOS THE MAIN STORY WAS THE BOYZ OF KOFFIEFONTEIN INTERN CAMP. ALL TRAITORS. SALUTE
@@kareladriaanludeke3475 DIE Soweto Onluste van 1976 is n a der storie.