I added the mid strength Sumos to my 1/2 Ton GMC. There is about 3/4" space above them. I find the empty ride to be nearly the same as before. When towing my 8500-pound TT, it is more stable and rides like a dream. I use a WDH as well. There is absolutely no maintenance, and they should last as long as the truck. There is a small amount of sag but it is barely noticeable. I think the Sumo Springs are an excellent option for sag and handling safety. They were easy to install as well.
I installed the blue Sumos on my 2018 Tundra. I have the Equalizer WDH and tow a 7000# (loaded) Lance 2285. Like you said the ride is slightly stiffer when empty because mine, although they mount over the leaf springs and not the axle, make constant contact with the leaf spring. There may be a 1/4” gap but that’s it. No spacer came with mine. I am satisfied with the ride when empty and believe they helped a lot when towing the camper. Simple to install and no maintenance and constant adjustments as opposed to air bags. btw, mine are still blue…🤷♂️
Good information. I have a 2020 F-150 towing a 7000 lb GVWR travel trailer with a propride 3p weight distribution hitch. No trailer sway with this hitch but there is a little bounce. Think I'll give these a try. Thanks
It didn’t seem to impact the setting of my hitch since my Reese hitch requires using the trailer jack to level the trailer with the truck attached and then using the closest chain link. Though mine didn’t seem to change, I think it would be wise to go through the set up process again. Realistically you should do some of the setup each time anyway once the truck and trailer are loaded to account for any differences in truck and trailer loading.
@@stuffyoucando2 Gotcha, yeah my WDH uses trunniun bars instead of chains. I've upgraded from the stock rear shocks also. So I should take a look at it anyways. Thanks for the video!
great video! what setup do you have with your truck? i am getting a new truck this friday...'22 F150 S-crew max tow/heavy pkg.....im interested in adding these later on after first couple tows if needed
The color is temporary just to discriminate the rating difference new. Since outside of that color you can't tell the difference. I'd assume they would scribe a part number on the housings for future reference. But anyways, great videos! Well explained and put together
I have a leveling kit installed on my truck, 2" front/1" rear. Can you install these with a leveling kit? I have the same truck a tow a 29' trailer with 750lb hitch weight, similar to your situation. Of course using a weight distribution set up. Wondering if it is worth and can be installed with a leveling kit. Great video. Thanks
I don't see why you couldn't. The only issue would be that you would have a little more space between the bottom of the SumoSpring and your axle because of the 1" of lift. You'll probably have about an inch of gap even with the spacer they provide. All that means is that the SumoSpring isn't going to provide any benefit until you have put enough weight on it to drop the rear until the spring touches. That won't be a problem with your camper in my opinion. Thanks for watching!
If your using these to help eliminate sag when hauling 1000 to 1500lbs in the bed of the truck, does it make the truck feel more stable with side to side sway and does the front end feel less light then if you were stock with normal rear end squat?
Not really but kind of sorta. I have a tundra with an 8 foot bed and hot shot in the oilfield. I have the 3000 pound sumo springs to help with swatting and a definite difference. Less bounce with a load. Definitely smoother with a load but empty there is really no difference. With that said they are definitely wert the price.
@@mikeb516 you could do whatever you want, but like my previous comment said, these aren’t meant to lift your vehicle, only prevent sagging. If you want to raise your ride height, get an actual lift that’s for that purpose.
Yes, in fact you really should do that before every trip to account for differences in how you load the trailer from one trip to the next (loaded or unloaded tanks, etc...).
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I added the mid strength Sumos to my 1/2 Ton GMC. There is about 3/4" space above them. I find the empty ride to be nearly the same as before. When towing my 8500-pound TT, it is more stable and rides like a dream. I use a WDH as well. There is absolutely no maintenance, and they should last as long as the truck. There is a small amount of sag but it is barely noticeable. I think the Sumo Springs are an excellent option for sag and handling safety. They were easy to install as well.
Super helpful thanks. I was just about to install with the spaced but I’m going to leave it off now
Glad it helped, thanks for watching!
I installed the blue Sumos on my 2018 Tundra. I have the Equalizer WDH and tow a 7000# (loaded) Lance 2285. Like you said the ride is slightly stiffer when empty because mine, although they mount over the leaf springs and not the axle, make constant contact with the leaf spring. There may be a 1/4” gap but that’s it. No spacer came with mine. I am satisfied with the ride when empty and believe they helped a lot when towing the camper. Simple to install and no maintenance and constant adjustments as opposed to air bags. btw, mine are still blue…🤷♂️
Mine turned from blue to black rather quickly also. It doesn’t seem to affect performance though.
Good information. I have a 2020 F-150 towing a 7000 lb GVWR travel trailer with a propride 3p weight distribution hitch. No trailer sway with this hitch but there is a little bounce. Think I'll give these a try. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Just got mine in the mail and plan on installing them tomorrow. Did you have to adjust your weight distribution hitch after installing these?
It didn’t seem to impact the setting of my hitch since my Reese hitch requires using the trailer jack to level the trailer with the truck attached and then using the closest chain link. Though mine didn’t seem to change, I think it would be wise to go through the set up process again. Realistically you should do some of the setup each time anyway once the truck and trailer are loaded to account for any differences in truck and trailer loading.
@@stuffyoucando2 Gotcha, yeah my WDH uses trunniun bars instead of chains. I've upgraded from the stock rear shocks also. So I should take a look at it anyways. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching!
great video! what setup do you have with your truck? i am getting a new truck this friday...'22 F150 S-crew max tow/heavy pkg.....im interested in adding these later on after first couple tows if needed
Thanks. This one is a 14’ Super Crew with the max towing package.
Anything for the sag in my wife's rear end??
Has she tried removing dead weight?
Lmao 😂 savage
She can get it lifted in Brazil.
Thx for that update
The color is temporary just to discriminate the rating difference new. Since outside of that color you can't tell the difference. I'd assume they would scribe a part number on the housings for future reference.
But anyways, great videos! Well explained and put together
Thanks!
Awesome thanks
Thanks for watching!
I have a leveling kit installed on my truck, 2" front/1" rear. Can you install these with a leveling kit? I have the same truck a tow a 29' trailer with 750lb hitch weight, similar to your situation. Of course using a weight distribution set up. Wondering if it is worth and can be installed with a leveling kit. Great video. Thanks
I don't see why you couldn't. The only issue would be that you would have a little more space between the bottom of the SumoSpring and your axle because of the 1" of lift. You'll probably have about an inch of gap even with the spacer they provide. All that means is that the SumoSpring isn't going to provide any benefit until you have put enough weight on it to drop the rear until the spring touches. That won't be a problem with your camper in my opinion. Thanks for watching!
If you contact super springs, I'm sure they make a spacer or different kit for your application
Ian, how did the sumosprings workout with the 1” lift in the back? Did you need the spacer?
If your using these to help eliminate sag when hauling 1000 to 1500lbs in the bed of the truck, does it make the truck feel more stable with side to side sway and does the front end feel less light then if you were stock with normal rear end squat?
Does it make it better when you goin down dirt roads does it help it feel more smooth??
Not really but kind of sorta. I have a tundra with an 8 foot bed and hot shot in the oilfield. I have the 3000 pound sumo springs to help with swatting and a definite difference. Less bounce with a load. Definitely smoother with a load but empty there is really no difference.
With that said they are definitely wert the price.
Thank you for your review. Would these be helpful for lifting a low clearance camper van?
These are not meant to lift the normal ride height of your vehicle, they’re meant to help sagging when loaded.
@@stuffyoucando2 OK thank you!
@@stuffyoucando2 What if.. another spacer was added??
@@mikeb516 you could do whatever you want, but like my previous comment said, these aren’t meant to lift your vehicle, only prevent sagging. If you want to raise your ride height, get an actual lift that’s for that purpose.
Did you have to adjust your weight distribution hitch from your previous setting after the summo install . Thanks for making this video .
Yes, in fact you really should do that before every trip to account for differences in how you load the trailer from one trip to the next (loaded or unloaded tanks, etc...).
The color change is weird. I wonder what causes that
I’m not sure, but it doesn’t impact their operation at least.
how come you don't have your bump stop strike pad?
You’d have to ask Ford, that’s how the truck is. I’ve seen vehicles with them and without.
Are these the 1,000 lb ones???
Yes, that’s correct.
Good video , the color change was strange
Did it help you with wind. I'm disappointed with f150 front end feels like it's floating in wind
What are you towing and do you have a weight distribution hitch? If the front feels light it sounds like too much tongue weight to me.
F150 are grocery getters
What size trailer?
Bought them, waste of money and truck still squatted
What kind of truck?