What Hippocrates Knew and We Have Forgotten
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ค. 2012
- Medical students hear about the Hippocratic Oath during the first days of medical school, but what does it actually state? Hippocrates was an ancient Greek physician who lived from 460 to 370 BC, so how relevant is his interpretation of medicine nowadays? Dr. John Patrick, a retired pediatrician and now a world-renown lecturer, explores these questions further.
"What the Hippocratic Oath gave substance to was a vision of a medical community with a predictable character of high ethical standards which could support justifiable trust between physician and patient with all the therapeutic benefit which such a community produces." Dr. Patrick argues that today, medicine has become more commercialized with a loss of these "communities of character." Therefore how can we currently put the Hippocratic oath into practice?
Interesting lecture
A very important quote by
Hippocrates
“Cure sometimes, treat often, Care always
This man is a breath of fresh air.
awesome
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He gasping
I try like hem .my panic attack past
No pun intended, eh? 🤣
as a medical student who is training under the Asian cultured medicine influenced slightly by Chinese medicine yet grew up in African where African medicine was a cornerstone to most communities I visited whilst growing up I have to say that your talk has opened a form of thinking that has made me go back to re evaluate belief that is a requisite of a medical practitioner. I believe we still need to do no with ourselves and beliefs before we do anything with the illness of others
Right. Heal yourself first and then you'll be able to heal others.
This is one of the best speeches I've heard during my studies in medical school. I have had questions about morality and integrity arise all throughout my studies and practices in hospitals. Dr Patrick's speech gave me food for thought and most importantly, not only new questions without answers but also new information which I will be happy to learn through the books and people he mentioned. What an amazing mind he has.
The best breaths he takes between sentences 😂
I needed this. How I came to find you from simply searching "Hippocratic Oath", truly something special.
Universities wouldn’t need grants (or sponsorships) if they ceased squandering a large majority of their tuition income on parasitic administrators. Universities would easily be independently profitable if their councils just did the right thing.
This video needs to be viewed by every doctor today. I’d also like to point out that the Germans actually began their crusade, as they were trying to irradiate tuberculosis. There was ill conceived attempts to create a vaccine, which caused multiple other outbreaks. People that were ill, or had be infected faced similar exile from businesses and their institutions, that the Jews and Gypsies later suffered. They were also not permitted to obtain marriage license, and were not allow to have relationships with those that had never been infected. When H*tler began targeting the Jews, he used tuberculosis as an excuse, and began calling them the “deceased race”.
There an easily found study on the subject titled: Tuberculosis, Nazi Medicine, and Genocide.
It could be purely coincidental, but the timeline of events matches up pretty closely to days we are currently living.
That being said, thank you for the video. It was a refreshing and enlightening perceptive. It also resonates as way to approach the cultural clash of ideologies and beliefs we are facing.
Nice refreshing goals about. Thank you.
Thank you for posting, this has brought me much understanding of the Hypocratic oath.😊
Well said and thank you for this wisdom, God bless
Imhotep of Egypt was a doctor and was around 2000 years before Hippocrates
I thoroughly enjoyed your speech.
Thank you
This one slipped under my radar bro, from what I recall or my favourite part, thy shalt not cause any harm or "first do no harm"
trust is important in medical
Trust = TRUE = SURE = GOD OR GODS WORD CHRIST, thus the doctor produces the same thing as a witch doctor here take this both say, what I'll happen Dr say I don't know you never took it but it should do this and it should do that but it could kill or it could heal. Then the witch doctor says the exact same thing. Lmao but witch doctor does better for they will say your faith has ALOT to do with it. And the Dr in u.s.a. will Lock you into prison take you from family and shoot kill if you oppose for just not having a prescription. What doctor of gypsy fraternity what a doctor to give medicine make pay them but no LIBERTY NO LIFE ONLY FUNNELING you to poverty while giving the most expensive never truly heal drugs
“Whoever wishes to investigate medicine properly should proceed thus: consider the seasons of the year.” Hippocrates 400 BC
Magnificent listen & watch that lecture was, even as a healthcare it's inspired me to ask questions about the patients I look after & Paramedic science that I'm hopefully beginning in September! Thank you for the information & questions! God Bless Dr. John Patrick 🌈💯👌👏
Very good. I give thanks to Dr. John Patrick for imparting his knowledge and wisdom.
You are amazing! So brilliant!
I think this is an excellent lecture.
This is a very good point of view.
This is really outstanding
What Hippocrates Knew and We Have Forgotten....EVERYTHING....
Thank you
He's right on point..
Strange that doctors take his Oath but don't follow his advice. "Medical science is only in its infancy, yet it has shown that our natural diet is that which grows out of the ground. The people will gradually develop up to the condition of this natural food." ~ Bahai Faith
I have an important internal med exam tomorrow and I stumbled on this video while I was struggling to sleep..
This man dr.patrick just gave me the most amazing motivational speech I have ever received and I'm quit critical
" I'm not easily impressed "
I wish that some day somehow i meet this good doctor.
Yeah but is anyone impressed by you? I doubt it.
@@rogerc23 Uncalled for. What are you, envious or something? Let the man learn some principle, he may work on you someday.
@@LilJbm1 it was more him commenting that “I’m not easily impressed” that I thought was lame. Try to see the greatness in everyone and trust that everyone has something to impress you by.
@@rogerc23 worst type of people are made of the same stuff as you are. Envious & miserable I petty you.
Finally A Man Wih Wisdom!
Thank u all
Someone have the books he recomended?
I find most of the arguments here largely uninteresting. Many seem to boil down to "Well obviously it would be this way". With respect, it seems like conjecture. With that said I appreciate the perspective, much of what was said, and I don't want to just say it's invalid. Instead I will give my perspective. I personally don't believe in judgement after death, but my self respect and happiness and sense of fulfillment are largely based on the good I do and my understanding of whether I'm acting in a way that the world would be better off if more acted that way. I like doing a good job and I want to see the world better by the time I die. I know multiple people that have been molested by people of devout faith. I have seen no correlation in my personal life between those of faith (or belief in judgement after death) and what I believe is virtuous behavior. Maybe there are just lots of fakes out there. Like I said, I don't want to invalidate. Morals are very important, especially in health care, and maybe there is some important value in this belief in judgement after death that would make me a better doctor if I were to become one. This could be true, but I'm not convinced after watching this. The importance of morals and philosophy and not lost on me, but this talk has a lot of religious claims backed by very specific perspectives.
Good Doctor 🫡
Hippocratic Oath
I swear by Apollo the physician, and Asclepius, and Hygieia and Panacea and all the gods and goddesses as my witnesses, that, according to my ability and judgement, I will keep this Oath and this contract:
To hold him who taught me this art equally dear to me as my parents, to be a partner in life with him, and to fulfill his needs when required; to look upon his offspring as equals to my own siblings, and to teach them this art, if they shall wish to learn it, without fee or contract; and that by the set rules, lectures, and every other mode of instruction, I will impart a knowledge of the art to my own sons, and those of my teachers, and to students bound by this contract and having sworn this Oath to the law of medicine, but to no others.
I will use those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients according to my greatest ability and judgement, and I will do no harm or injustice to them.
I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion.
In purity and according to divine law will I carry out my life and my art.
I will not use the knife, even upon those suffering from stones, but I will leave this to those who are trained in this craft.
Into whatever homes I go, I will enter them for the benefit of the sick, avoiding any voluntary act of impropriety or corruption, including the seduction of women or men, whether they are free men or slaves.
Whatever I see or hear in the lives of my patients, whether in connection with my professional practice or not, which ought not to be spoken of outside, I will keep secret, as considering all such things to be private.
So long as I maintain this Oath faithfully and without corruption, may it be granted to me to partake of life fully and the practice of my art, gaining the respect of all men for all time. However, should I transgress this Oath and violate it, may the opposite be my fate.
Translated by Michael North, National Library of Medicine, 2002.
Speaker know BREATHE = LIFE
I disagree that if you don't believe in life after death that you don't have a moral structure.
I think what he's trying to say is first impressions that come across. Since the purpose of the believing in judgement after death is that you immediately come across as caring for what you do without having to prove it
@@lMsAutumnl Doing something for fear of afterlife punishment just seems like a cop out to me. I'd respect someone more for doing their best because they care about their patient and not their soul. But I see what you are saying.
U r right about these athiest. They don't beleive in any god. They beleive in the education they have, but education is not enough, until what substances are used to treat people as medication goes. They have not even seen and examined how and chat substance a human dead crops become, this man told me that testosterone is a chemical affinity. Should I laugh at him?
Wonder how he got that position he is doing....I thought testosterone is a hormone.
10%- a well worded and very biblical speech on Hippocrates
90%- _S_N_I_F_F_
Oh so interesting are the comments on this video. I love it! This gentleman upset me at the beginning……..but his paradoxical thinking has me gripped. By study, I’ve grown past organized religions but by heart I’m with him. He challenges the core of who we are which spirituality(knowledge of all real universal sciences) I found answers to those fundamental questions. Hippocrates is my hero and I’ve been able to help others using his methods. Now, as far as WWII and the concentration camps, please look up IG Farbin/Bayer to find the real culprits in the medical testing taking place in the concentration camps surrounding Germany. It’s ugly reality and this is big pharma, big oil, big bank and huge multi National chemical corporations.
Enough of that BS. Rockefeller pharmaceuticals using grants and funding has changed medicine to this mechanistic form of medicine and removed natural or vitalistic homeopathy which we had until 100 years ago. “Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food” Hippocrates said. Peace to everyone watching this informative video!!!!
what did he talk about? I could only focus on the amazing amount of air he sucked in through his nose. Could someone please graph this? Does it smell really awesome in Wisconsin?
lol
Gosh you suffer from bad irritations 😂
At first I could not tell what that sound was I thought somebody was sweeping the floor by the microphone I just had no idea I think you should be aware how annoying it really is
Lmaooo
Did he say that he worked with the WELCOME TRUST. I believe that's a Bi ll gates investment firm or Foundation. GEEZ
Love it. TH-cam, please promote more of such videos.
Why do most doctors today not practise the laws of Hippocrates.
It was said in the lecture.
Let thy food be thy medicine,has saved years for me I'm sure,ii would love to hear this guy's thoughts on nanobots in spinach article I read, pray for harmony among mankind, please
He is a true man...Thanks God.
Hippocrates is gonna make a comeback
They did that purposely its not him its whose recording this video..
I found it fantastic
However, Ancient Greek people in general did not believe in life after death, eternal bliss or damnation the same way Christians do. There were also different mysteries, cultic religions which promised eternal bliss for their initiates only, but the majority of Greece believed only in a dim vision of the underworld where the spirits of dead reside as ghosts without pain or pleasure. So Dr Patrick operates on a mistaken premise here. The Hippocratic Oath might have been composed and used by such a little cult as I have just mentioned, a group of initiates of Asclepius, but that is another matter to discuss.
“I swear by Apollo the physician, and Aesculapius the surgeon, likewise Hygeia and Panacea, and call all the gods and goddesses to witness, that I will observe and keep this underwritten oath, to the utmost of my power and judgment. I will reverence my master who taught me the art.
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Hippocates used vinegar for wounds.
greetings he spelled his namε with an I not H ..Ιπποκρατης
33:00 that was beautifully put .
We should have kept abortion and. Assisted suicide out of medicine
It is strange how we categorize things with tunnel vision and the way we see anything w the body as mainly same field of medicine
where the F is Hippocrates knowledge?
Read "The Price of Altruism."
George Price wrote a proof that altruism is genetic. Some let their religious views skew there rational, scientific understanding.
He CLEARLY stated it is about swearing by the gods or God you believe in. You don't listen?
Religion should not be a basis for refusing medical care, if you won’t practise for the good of the patient, don’t practice.
No evidence was provided by the lecturer that the Germans were killing the disabled, ect.. Though he did mention, ironically the danger of believing lectures who say things with confidence. That they dont really think about what they say, but are readily believed.
Interesting points are made here. But unfortunately, it all comes down to this: striving for the best due to FEAR of judgement. Seriously?? The ultimate reason you have for striving to be a good doctor is fear of judgement when you die??? I think he says at some point that a man that does not fear judgement after death can do whatever the hell he wants. Well, what if I told you that not all of us are so fucking SELFISH?? I do not believe in any God, I do not believe I will be judged after death, yet I still strive to do the very best for my patient's heath and comfort, the latter being something that is usually overlooked. I work hard to be sure I am up to date and as well informed as I can possibly be. I also extend this care outside of work, to people that in the past I may have not bothered with. Still with no fear of judgement whatsoever. Instead of FEAR, the thing that keeps me going is thinking that" this is it, there is no other life, no judgement, no nothing after death, so better to try and make the most of it, try to do as much good and offer as much to everyone around you as you can while you are still here, make it count , be of use." So, yeah, I would still run away from a doctor who is religious and mixes those morals into his work. FEAR should NOT be a motivator. For anyone.
+darkangelcl4 I like a few of ur comments, though I would like to challenge ur thoughts on the lack of a God or a life after this one...and if u do work in the field as a doctor I would love to open a discussion on any questions u may have on treatments for any ailments u are having problems with...I work as a research analyst within multi-interdisciplinary fields of science, medicine, and a few other interrelated fields...we work with Universities and Institutes all over the planet, and at this point we have for the most part cured virtually every disease known to man...it is only a matter of information dissemination at this point...so I would love to help if possible, as u stated that u are always attempting to keep up to date on the latest...our work is typically outside the journals though, so please keep this in mind...
ur friend, abracadabra
To downsize Dr John Patrick just because off him being religious and talking about morality in the practice as doctor is condradicting the rationality of atheism. He brought on many good points.
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morality does not depend upon religion or spirituality
Although this lecture becomes interesting and the information and views important towards the end.. his casually delivered racist undertones are incredibly inflammatory and offensive and can't be ignored🥺
What are some examples?
Dr. Anthony Fauci
Remove the ancient gods of ancient Greece and simply put the name of Jesus.
There is nothing in this Oath that Jesus would condemn.
I don't believe you can be a Christian and take that oath, for in doing so you renounce the One True God of the bible. Would it not be the same as putting insence on the alter of Ceaser and saying Ceaser is Lord? Doing so would be a great compromise.
Acts 4:11-13 English Standard Version (ESV)
11 This Jesus[a] is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone.[b] 12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men[c] by which we must be saved.”
13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated, common men, they were astonished. And they recognized that they had been with Jesus.
If you're not already doing drugs - START! if you're doing drugs - STOP!
At 8:30 I stopped listening. This man is clearly extremely opinionated to a point of making me feel ill, and caters to a certain crowd that likes a sort of sarcastic pretentious know it all who is all show but little merit. I cannot trust anything that comes out of his mouth anymore. Save yourself some trouble and watch something else about Hippocrates.
I think it would be to anyone and everyone's edification to listen to and digest the thoughts of another, including some hyper-biased zealous, if that is what is what a speaker is claimed to be by some listener. To refuse to listen to another on the grounds that the other person is too opinionated speaks magnitudes about the character of the listener and the security of his/her belief system. To not listen to an argument in its entirety because it is a "too polar" argument allows for the views of the listener to be polarized by avoiding the opposite argument. In other words, one is guilty of willfully accepting confirmation bias by avoiding arguments against one's belief system.
@@WyattOSchaefer We don't have time to go through every video and text on any subject, so if someone is very untrustworthy, it is best to use our time elsewhere.
Information is best delivered in a direct fashion, without background music and emotional appeals. When someone needs to use manipulation to make their point, they are already making themselves look dangerous.
It's not an opinion I am opposed to, it's the delivery. Delivery can say a lot about a person's capability to stay unbiased and do atual research based on facts, rather than create a presentation they want to deliver, but that has little merit.
I've read on countless topics, I've listened to flat earthers and religious folks, and I don't really have a problem until someone starts being arrogant, emotional, forceful, and hypocritical.
How is being "extremely opinionated" a moral problem? The great and venerated thinkers of history are extremely opinionated. No one gets to a position of power by being un-opinionated.
Moreover, you have failed to provide a single logically substantial reason that argues properly against a point that he makes, and instead choose to fling baseless buzzwords. Unfortunately, people can now choose to label any declaration of truth they find unsavory as "manipulation," and think this sufficiently dismantles their opponent's argument.
Would be a lot more enjoyable to listen to his arguments if he wasn't dripping with condescension and self-righteousness. Also, as a biologist, it's great fun to listen to physicians who clearly have little background in evolutionary biology, molecular phylogenetics, etc. whinge on about the shortcomings of evolution. Dr. Patrick is an examplar of the many differences between research scientists and clinicians, despite his references to time spent "in the laboratory".
Okay Mr. Condescension. Projecting
Is anyone else wondering wtf that sharp inbreathing is all about? Obnoxious to say the least.
inhaling Oxygen
All I heard is your private life.
Nothing about Hippocras............
Could he breathe in any louder?!! 😖
W1ll P0w3R
Yup! The sky’s the limit!!!
This is philosophy. You do the best because that is the best thing to do not because god has said so. So hard to continue to listen to this bias. I am doing it with regret that I am waiting my time.
Religion has nothing to do with trust. Most religions do not suport trust
Honestly homie sounds full of himself in 1st 10 seconds of video. Jus sayin
Blah blah blah where is Hippocrates? Stop sniffing drugs
Came to learn about Hippocrates, but couldn't make it passed the religious BS opening.
Tried to skip ahead to see if it was just the beginning that was nonsense and found him arguing against Darwin. Take your self righteous Christianity somewhere else; it doesn't belong in medicine or science.
IMO, In this case, it would be good to listen to the whole thing before deciding.
Wow a doctor teaching doctors his personal opinions and no logic. Wow shameful.
What a lot of religious BS.