Oh wow, what have you done 😂 Now I feel way too excited!!! Jokes aside, your comment means so much! I appreciate it more than I can articulate! Thank you 🤜🤛 and hope you enjoy other reviews 🤝
el video q estaba esperando para confirmar mi compra, crucerear a 120km/h esta mas que bien, es una mecha en ciudad y biene excelentemente equipada. ggracias por el contenido bro!!! llega en octubre a la argentina!!!
Thank you for watching! I hope you enjoyed the review! Shout out to Argentina!!! Nice to know you get it there. I hope you enjoy mt450 as much as I did 🤜🤛
Good video, thank you for posting. Looks like this bike is exactly what it should be. Nimble for off road/trails/traffic/parking but still capable of travelling at most legal highway speed limits. I think some reviewers have a big problem comparing bikes in the middle weight category. They tend to focus on one or the other extreme rather than looking at the bike as a whole. Sure there are faster bikes on the highway, and there a better bikes on the dirt but they don't compare them as a total package. I think this is why we have such a large gap in middleweight bikes... and then there is the very approachable seat height on the MT. I will definitely be checking this out when it hits dealers in the US. And if nothing else maybe it will encourage other manufacturers to enter back into the lower side of the middleweight bike class again.
I thank you for your comment! MT450 is the best middle displacement adv in China by far, and giving my modest experience I can’t claim that it would be the best small to middle adv bikes overall, but the more I ride it the more I fall in love with it! It’s literally perfect for everything I like to do on a motorcycle, and a few days ago I started to learn wheelies, and it’s so nice for that! One more thing to say is that it doesn’t feel like small displacement bike, it feels quite powerful and super fun, especially in a city like mine. I can’t wait to see what you will have to say once it’s available in US!
I wanted to watch this update on the CF Moto but can not stand that music racket, it is an horrendous noise that makes you mute the sound so I miss what could have been, an informative update.
Thanks for the wonderful & consice review, Dizimini! Our highway speed limit is 100 kmh and it's good to know it can still go up to 120 kmh with no issue. This is more than enough speed for me. Very versatile bike & I can't wait to try it on off-road! :)
@@eddywave3315 🤩 wow thanks man, I appreciate it! Aesthetically, I really like this bike and I would like a bike that I can use every day to go to work, have fun and bring my girlfriend. But I'm afraid it's too underpowered and too low. What do you think? Thanks a lot!
Great test👍 I think the problem on highway is beacuse this bike have offroad tyres, and they are not the best solution for high speed, if you want more stability on highway just change the tyres.
Those inconsistent top speeds could be caused by traction control intervening. Also, that highway performance could be due to the dual sport tires. Road tires might make it perform better on the highway.
Peoples know already the power of this bike and kerp telling us unsatisfies with bla bla etc if you want to go fast in a highway then get yourself ktm 1290adv or a superbike
I though I said I loved it😂 don’t get me wrong, I knew that my450 isn’t the best bike for high speed, but many guys were curious, and I tried to do my best. And this bike’s price is 4400$ in China not 20000$ like the bikes you mentioned. I appreciate your opinion. 🤝
@@vivir_en_ruedasyou could change the sprocket sizes for it to go fast enough for your liking, but remember you would decrease the tourque at the same time too.
I'm truly impressed by the acceleration, though it comes with a common trade-off among torquey adventure bikes-limited top-end speed. Yet, such a choice is inevitable. Initially, I was inclined to express disappointment over the top speed, but then I had an epiphany: if exceeding 130 kph on my adventure bike means sacrificing the enjoyment of the scenic journey, perhaps it's time to reconsider my priorities in life.
I will say that mt450 is a great bike for pretty much everything! It’s not the fastest motorcycle obviously, but the amount of joy you have with it is amazing. You can still make it better for high speed by changing the front fender, and the windshield, but I mostly ride in a city, and I can’t get enough, and the price of mt450 in China is 4400$. What a great deal !
Great to see the adventure continues! Why do you think the higher speeds feel unstable? I have to ride sometimes 2-3 hours at 120kph - would it be unsafe to expect to do this? Next the Triumph Speed 400 ? For her it’s between the CF and maybe the Triumph.
At 120 it still feels good! But once you go faster the wind exposure is getting nasty, but the biggest issue is the handlebars being a bit loose, but my front fender wasn’t high speed oriented I’ve been told) I want to try out Speed 400, but I don’t know where to get it from by now)
I don't know if this is true, but an offroad fender (higher and a little bit wider) may make your bike feel weird on big wind, just like a dual sport helmet, the wind will blow your head off to the side or upper. 450mt he drove is using offroad fender, maybe it's the reason he feel weird at the front of the bike.
@@GinZzZ98 yes I think the other fender will make a big difference! I rent this bike, so I can’t change it, but if you go fast you better change the fender😅
Thank you for this video. I have a 40MT on order but they still haven't been released here in Australia. I live in a country town where I have to ride for at least 30 minutes or more at 100kph to get places. I have friends with BMW GS 1200 and 750 which I want to go moto camping with. I can't wait for it to arrive
Now we can really tell why it priced like that. Infact, feels a little expensive already. What an honest real world review. Getting sick of the launching videos where everybody seems like forced to say good things only
Thank you! In China the price of this bike is 4400$ which is a great deal! I loved the bike btw) but I was as honest as I could be, in a few weeks I’ll make one last mt450 review, where I’ll share my final thoughts Appreciate your comment 🤜🤛
@@eddywave3315 nevertheless, not saying that the bike is bad at all... I'm actually wanting it and patiently waiting it to drop here in North of Borneo. Cheers
Hi , I only came across the rear bag rails in your video. Did you install these bag rails? Are they original accessories? Or is it an aliexpress product? I bought my motobike today and the seller told me that these rails were not available. Thanks in advance.
Hello, there are two versions, this one comes with 3 cases, but I didn’t put them on. The difference in price is 1500 rmb which is a little over 200$ here in China
How do you manage to test ride all of them, because I can't afford to buy more than 1 moto per year and then to sell it and next year another. The dealers in my country don't agree to make them advertising, very hard I managed to make a small collaboration with CFMOTO, but even there I find it hard. The rest, like KTM and Kavasaki they don't even want to discuss about test ride here. Any advice on how to approach would be apreciated! thanks ride safe, nice reviews
I very really get bikes from dealerships, in China Voge lets me do it, and I’m extremely lucky! (Thank you Voge!!👍) Cfmoto allows it too, but I can’t test it out properly coz the traffic is quite dense there. Other brands allow to ride only in a parking lot 😢 So what I do is renting these bikes, in China I can do that, I rented 80% of all the bikes on this channel. KTM btw is nice here too, I could test ride few bikes the way I wanted, but I didn’t film) Which country are you from? Do you have rent out places?
@eddywave3315 Cyprus, Only CFMOTO is letting me test, like to the first gas station and back, all others definitely refused me, I intend to make videos with me pretending to be a customer asking to testride 1 moto from each dealership and post how friendly they are. Very good idea about renting, this is a tourist island they have rentals I will exploit this thank you! ✌️💪👌
Thanks for the review. MT450 just came up in my country and you gave me the answers I am looking for. I wonder if replacing the tires would help with driving at higher speeds.
for more stability on highway you have to get hard the rear suspension, if you do that the front end its going to feel more planted due to less wheight transfer
Where are you testing this bike? In which country ? Cause models that made gor europe are i think less powerful due to euro 5 emissions crap.. so... that will be a good information
High fender on the front increase the tendency to raise up the front of the bike. Maybe this the reason you feel it less "planted" on the highway. This is normal. But, IIRC, you can have the version with low fender if you want.
Yes, you’re right! I think the fender played a crucial role in this! I don’t have a chance to change it, but since I ride in a city the vast majority of the time, it’s fine for me
You made a mistake. You tested the bike at asphalt road for high speed and stability, by using the high front off road fender. Try the same with the low fender that it is for street road trips and you will see a really different behavior.
I rent this bike, so I couldn’t change anything, however if I have a chance to change the fender I will! Thank you for your comment, I think it might be useful for people who ride these on highways 🤝
Yes! Bike feels great at 120/7000rpm on a highway! And the front fender that I have on my mt450 is an off road version, you can get another one and it will improve high speed stability (I’ve been told)Cheers 🤜🤛
Well, most say the BMW 310GS wasn't meant for the interstate, but I have no problem cruising at 85mph doing a 40 mile commute. I'm pretty sure the 450mt will be perfectly fine for interstate travel.
It was available in Qingdao in the middle of the March, but you had to preorder mt450. If you pay now you have to wait for a month or so in my city, so I’ve just rented it for a month)
Thank you again for this new video! I asked before if the front brake is still squeaky? Is it now? I think I understand this is your bike! Congratulations ⭐️ Perhaps a steering dampener will resolve the front handle bar lightness? Will the touring windshield help with buffeting? Thanks 🇺🇦🤙 Edit: Wanted to ask you because I cannot see it clearly, what RPM in 6th gear at 100 km/h & 120 km/h please?
Appreciate it! The noise went away over time, after the first rain it went away, but when everything dried up it came back) but after the first week it went away for good) I didn’t do anything to it. When you ride 100km/h the rpm is a bit less than 6000, at 120 it’s at 7000rpm which is good. Yeah steering damper will help I think, but I don’t ride that fast usually, so I don’t think I need one. This is not my bike, I rented it for a month, I paid 3600 rnb wich is around 500$ (in case you needed that) I think a bigger windshield is a must have for a highway, but I just ride in a city, so it’s fine for my case. Once again thanks for watching! Means a lot 🤝
@@eddywave3315 thank you your input & feedback ⭐️ What motorcycle do you currently have? Would the 450MT be on the list? I also do like the 450NK! I wish I could buy both. That is a dream. Thanks again 🤙
@@stevesane800 I just got NK800! But I wanted to get nk450 as a second bike, coz I have a girlfriend and mt450 is a bit too big for her, nk450 felt amazing I think I’ll make a video on my nk800 later this month
Great video, and it looks to be really honest which i really appreciate. No bul..t, but straight to the point. You have one new subscriber from Serbia. Keep up the good work! Btw this is not how i imagined China, it looks nice. Which town / area is this ? Best regards!
First of I greatly appreciate your comment! Means a lot to me 🤝 Thank you for subscribing! This is Qingdao, a costal city in China, love this place. Shout out to Serbia 🤜🤛
1) Why is the reason you feel the handle bars feeling loose at high speed? Is that related to the chassis? Suspension adjustment? The size of the wheel 21 inches and or width? 2) Do you think by re mapping the engine/ECU? the engine can gain on power to accelerate and or reach higher speeds, and or even eliminate some vibrations at higher speed? Ukraine greetings from Argentina
I think the reason why it felt so is the very light weight of the front end, and definitely coz I had an off road front fender! You can change it and it should be much better, other factors such as a front wheel could have add up to it as well I think it might increase the top speed, but I need to check it out, only than I can say. Shout out to Argentina 🤜🤛
Does it have speed limiter? Or it was hitting rev limiter? If it was rev limiter it is possible to put bigger sprocket on the front to slightly decrease torque but it will have higher top speed.
I’m sure you can make it faster! It felt to me like I hit the limit. But I’m not sure rev or speed. Smaller sprocket should make it faster but at the cost of bottom end torque
When you say less confident at 120klmh. How bad? Is it better than a crfrally? I’m thinking of selling my T7 for the 450mt. I don’t mind slow but need to be able to ride 1-2hours on highway with stability that is safe enough.
120 is fine! People say with the other front fender it must be better. But within 120km/h it felt good even with the off road fender? This bike is very comfortable and 2 hours will feel like nothing!
@@eddywave3315 I don't know the exact reason, they are just not available in stores in Europe. You will find a few, but they are all sport-street oriented tires, no enduro. Thanks for the review by the way, it was really informative, there are not many of them like this
Try change to new (grippier) tires and see if it's still unstable under high speed condition. I've heard that factory-come tires have less quality than aftermarket tires.
Honestly I don’t know whether they will release 700mt or not, but I think they will keep on releasing new adv bikes for sure, and by now I love every single adv from them that I rode✊.
If 150 is the limit, how could I get to 159km/h🤔 but it makes sense, given that you can’t go that fast on a bike in China. Appreciate it! Thanks for watching 🤜🤛
So, 1st of all you've got a new subscriber from Romania, 2nd, i've watched ALL your videos about Chinese brands, and love them all, Chinese manufacturers will conquer the world market for sure and they will be no.1 on sales worldwide especially CFmoto and Benelli, 3rd i WILL BUY one 450NK next month when they arrive in Romania (1st shipment in this country of this model 2024), so my question is ... for urban rides/occasionally touring rides i'm making the right choice in your opinion? i'm not much of a fan of adventure/enduro moto... im 1.83m tall and 100 Kg... if you can reply you have my respects!
Thank you for watching and subscribing! NK 450 is an awesome bike! The best bike for a city in my opinion, amazing acceleration, exceptionally maneuverable, great gearbox, the best sound and performance in the class! I’ve almost bought it 2 weeks ago, but found a great deal for 800nk! You will not be disappointed, the only single thing I didn’t love is the seat, it’s rubbing my butt once I ride for over an hour 😂. BTW I rode an nk450 the other day with 12000 km on it, and the bike didn’t have any issues. So reliability is on point! Shout out to Romania!!! Hope I can visit someday 🤜🤛
the only thing I was worried about this bike is acceleration over 90km/h while overtaking cars. I have new Svarptilen 401 which has 46hp and only thing I`m missing is that acceleration speed while overtaking from 75 and above. This will be even slower, if just this would have like 10 - 15 more hp
Thank you, very nice review, really interested in this bike, waiting when it is available in Russia. This year there is no delivery of 450 MT. Now riding 800 MT, but struggling with the seat hight and weight of 800 MT. What do think, is 450 MT better for shorter rider in terms of seat hight and weight compare with 800 MT?
Can you get a Suzuki V-Strom 250sx to compare? Obviously it has less power, however if you never go over 100kph does it matter? I want/like the MT 450, then I think since I stay under 100kph and often on broken pavement, dirt, and rocky roads, why pay more for more performance that I will never use?
450sr have more top speed. Is the machine different? Or just sproket gear, i know mt ist not for top speed, but i just wonder if we use street tyre and 17" rim, can mt450 compete with 450sr?
Even though the engine is pretty much the same, but it has been tuned in a different way, torque delivery is very different, gears and things like that + the form factor, even acceleration is different, but it’s a more fun bike for me regardless!
When it comes to vibrations, context matters, those tyres are going to cause vibrations, i know that because i have tried many different tyres on my Versys x300, and they make quite the impact, for example, fhe Dunlop Trailmax (130/80/17) is very smooth, the Michelin Sirac (same size) is waaaay harsher at first when brand new, it needs to wear in to be smoother.
I agree! But I don’t think these tires are as bad as people say! Sure thing the ones you mentioned will be better, but overall the one we get from the showroom will suffice for the majority of riders in my opinion
Hello sir, may I ask, is the cfmoto 650GT are rare even in China? it really hard to find aftermarket parts for this model, even the workshop manual is non existent. Thank you
Hi! I checked and there are 5 650gt for sale in my city, they aren’t the most common bikes, but you can still find them no problem! And I don’t think it’s a problem to find parts for it here as well
@@eddywave3315 Noted thank you for the info, no wonder it hard to find people with those bike, it always the sibling 650MT , I thought they already discontinued the GT model
Maybe if you convert it into motard set-up and change the combination of sprockets it'll be more fun to ride in highways and its gonna have more speed.
I will leave it to other guys) not my bike, just renting it, one thing to say is that it’s great for a city and I don’t want to change anything . Thank you for the advice 🤜🤛
If you’re riding off road then the mt450 will be fine. However, if you’re riding in the interstate at all, I would recommend a bigger bike like the Transalp XL750. The wind on lighter bikes isn’t your friend.
I love Tenere 700, my friend had one from 1993 and it’s almost as good as a new bike even now! But the price difference is enormous!!! In China for example my450 is 4400$ and Tenere 700 is 14000$+ taxes
I know! But in the end of the first video I asked people what they wanted to see in my next videos, and the vast majority of people said they are curious about the top speed and highway performance. Hope you can understand. Shout out to France🤜🤛
I think yes, my girlfriend tried, she’s just like you, she managed to ride, but she’s not used to this type of bikes, for her it felt too big, but she says the same about everything😂 So I think you’ll not have problems 🤜🤛
100-120 is no problem, but if you go up the hill 130 might be a problem, I’ve checked the top speed once again yesterday, will upload it soon, you can see the 0-top speed acceleration, and how it feels🤜🤛
Very great video and i dont care for the highway speed anyway and in Norway the highest speed aloved is 110 km/h anyway and i like drive around 90-100 km/h with my car on the highway so i guess i dont buy this mc anyway to drive on any highway so it wil be small roads with speed limit max 80 km/h and less so some offroad wil be done too and i think this is the perfeckt bike for that. And the good thing it is small and nible and don't weight a ton anly 190 kg wet so it is good.
Exactly! It’s a perfect bike for pretty much everything but fast speed highways. Likewise I’m riding in the city, and it’s the perfect bike for the job! Can’t get enough! I recommend you to try one out when you get a chance 🤜🤛 Shout out to Norway ✊
I feel like all CFMoto bikes have that issue. From a stop having issues getting it into 1st gear from 2nd or even neutral from 1st gear. My fiancée has a Papio and I ran into that issue often. Kind of annoying.
Actually the new CFmotos don’t have this problem on average, that was the first time, but some other Chinese motorcycles have that problem, which is indeed very annoying
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THAT IS HOW A REVIEW MUST BE LIKE !!! CONGRATS from a Greek viewer ... I'll check your other videos too!!!
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ελα μορη πατριδα ! +1 respect from another Greek
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Oh wow, what have you done 😂 Now I feel way too excited!!!
Jokes aside, your comment means so much! I appreciate it more than I can articulate! Thank you 🤜🤛 and hope you enjoy other reviews 🤝
@@johnal-kel9063 appreciate it 😂😂😂 that’s so cool to read ✊✊✊
This is the first video on TH-cam where we can see mt450's top speed and acceleration! Hell yeah 🔥 🔥 🔥
Pero a que altura a nivel del mar?
I’m not sure whether this is the first top speed or not, but I did my best) 🤜🤛
Yea
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@@betjkamin No matter. The bike is fuel injected.
Finally a proper review! Every video I saw until now was just posturing. Thanks crack!
Glad it was helpful! I tried to do my best. Appreciate your comment, means a lot to me 🤜🤛
el video q estaba esperando para confirmar mi compra, crucerear a 120km/h esta mas que bien, es una mecha en ciudad y biene excelentemente equipada. ggracias por el contenido bro!!! llega en octubre a la argentina!!!
Posta en octubre? que buena noticia
@@SantiagoAriasEskapa sisi. Info de Agencia oficial. Yo creo q la presentan en el salón de la moto y sale.
Thank you for watching! I hope you enjoyed the review! Shout out to Argentina!!! Nice to know you get it there. I hope you enjoy mt450 as much as I did 🤜🤛
@@mesasNET maravilloso, gracias!
Wow you did my request. I have book the bike based on your 1st review, cant wait to tour with it soon. Definitely a sub, and keep up the good work.
Highly appreciate your subscription!!! Means a lot, hope you will have good time riding your mt450🤜🤛 cheers
Good video, thank you for posting. Looks like this bike is exactly what it should be. Nimble for off road/trails/traffic/parking but still capable of travelling at most legal highway speed limits. I think some reviewers have a big problem comparing bikes in the middle weight category. They tend to focus on one or the other extreme rather than looking at the bike as a whole. Sure there are faster bikes on the highway, and there a better bikes on the dirt but they don't compare them as a total package. I think this is why we have such a large gap in middleweight bikes... and then there is the very approachable seat height on the MT. I will definitely be checking this out when it hits dealers in the US. And if nothing else maybe it will encourage other manufacturers to enter back into the lower side of the middleweight bike class again.
I thank you for your comment!
MT450 is the best middle displacement adv in China by far, and giving my modest experience I can’t claim that it would be the best small to middle adv bikes overall, but the more I ride it the more I fall in love with it! It’s literally perfect for everything I like to do on a motorcycle, and a few days ago I started to learn wheelies, and it’s so nice for that! One more thing to say is that it doesn’t feel like small displacement bike, it feels quite powerful and super fun, especially in a city like mine. I can’t wait to see what you will have to say once it’s available in US!
I wanted to watch this update on the CF Moto but can not stand that music racket, it is an horrendous noise that makes you mute the sound so I miss what could have been, an informative update.
You should check my other two videos which have no music! Hope you enjoy those🤝
Thanks for the wonderful & consice review, Dizimini! Our highway speed limit is 100 kmh and it's good to know it can still go up to 120 kmh with no issue. This is more than enough speed for me. Very versatile bike & I can't wait to try it on off-road! :)
Glad it was helpful! I think you will love MT450! It’s a great bike! Can’t get enough of it 🤜🤛
Obviously every 450cc can go over 120 🤦🏼
Could you bring a video with a passenger? You're great, I love your videos!
Appreciate it! Yes! Once my girlfriend back in town, I’ll do that🤝
@@eddywave3315 🤩 wow thanks man, I appreciate it! Aesthetically, I really like this bike and I would like a bike that I can use every day to go to work, have fun and bring my girlfriend. But I'm afraid it's too underpowered and too low. What do you think? Thanks a lot!
This clip and a test drive made me get the mt 450 . 700 km, untill now, great bike. I love the Abs offroad!
Glad to read you like it so far! One of the best bikes out there in my opinion! Love off road abs too man! Thanks for watching!
@@eddywave3315 I have a Sym adx 200 which has a lot worst abs offroad!!!
thank you. real question are getting answered here.
I appreciate it! I wanted to check as much as I could) thank you for watching!
I reckon some tweaks of suspension settings and tyres could make a big difference to stability at speed
Yes, I think the same way
Great test👍 I think the problem on highway is beacuse this bike have offroad tyres, and they are not the best solution for high speed, if you want more stability on highway just change the tyres.
Great point! And the front fender as well, these two factors could improve the top speed performance
Those inconsistent top speeds could be caused by traction control intervening. Also, that highway performance could be due to the dual sport tires. Road tires might make it perform better on the highway.
Excelente review! Esperando la Mt450 en Argentina.😃
Highly anticipated!!! Hope it gets to Argentina ASAP🤜🤛
Problem is the high fgont fender for the high speed instability!
Install the low one and you will notice a big difference.
Peoples know already the power of this bike and kerp telling us unsatisfies with bla bla etc if you want to go fast in a highway then get yourself ktm 1290adv or a superbike
I though I said I loved it😂 don’t get me wrong, I knew that my450 isn’t the best bike for high speed, but many guys were curious, and I tried to do my best. And this bike’s price is 4400$ in China not 20000$ like the bikes you mentioned.
I appreciate your opinion. 🤝
Its weird, because with 44hp and 450cc it should go to 170 minimum. My mt03 makes 180 kph with 42hp and 320cc.
@@vivir_en_ruedasyou could change the sprocket sizes for it to go fast enough for your liking, but remember you would decrease the tourque at the same time too.
You@@vivir_en_ruedasYes. ...you right dude....👍
@@vivir_en_ruedasIs that laid on the tank with nothing in your pockets with a tail wind
I'm truly impressed by the acceleration, though it comes with a common trade-off among torquey adventure bikes-limited top-end speed. Yet, such a choice is inevitable. Initially, I was inclined to express disappointment over the top speed, but then I had an epiphany: if exceeding 130 kph on my adventure bike means sacrificing the enjoyment of the scenic journey, perhaps it's time to reconsider my priorities in life.
I will say that mt450 is a great bike for pretty much everything! It’s not the fastest motorcycle obviously, but the amount of joy you have with it is amazing. You can still make it better for high speed by changing the front fender, and the windshield, but I mostly ride in a city, and I can’t get enough, and the price of mt450 in China is 4400$. What a great deal !
@@eddywave3315 $4400 is just insane value. I wish i was in China.
The booking price of this in my country is $10,000 without boxes 😂
@@awaisyousaf 10000$ is a lot! Which country are you in?
@@eddywave3315 Your neighbor, Pakistan.
Nice video, what I am missing is how this bike does on gravel roads and trails. Maybe you will do more content on this bike.
Appreciate it!
This is what I will do in my next video! Thank you for watching 🤜🤛
@@eddywave3315 OK, looking forward
Great to see the adventure continues! Why do you think the higher speeds feel unstable? I have to ride sometimes 2-3 hours at 120kph - would it be unsafe to expect to do this? Next the Triumph Speed 400 ? For her it’s between the CF and maybe the Triumph.
At 120 it still feels good! But once you go faster the wind exposure is getting nasty, but the biggest issue is the handlebars being a bit loose, but my front fender wasn’t high speed oriented I’ve been told) I want to try out Speed 400, but I don’t know where to get it from by now)
I don't know if this is true, but an offroad fender (higher and a little bit wider) may make your bike feel weird on big wind, just like a dual sport helmet, the wind will blow your head off to the side or upper. 450mt he drove is using offroad fender, maybe it's the reason he feel weird at the front of the bike.
@@GinZzZ98 yes I think the other fender will make a big difference! I rent this bike, so I can’t change it, but if you go fast you better change the fender😅
Thank you for this video. I have a 40MT on order but they still haven't been released here in Australia. I live in a country town where I have to ride for at least 30 minutes or more at 100kph to get places. I have friends with BMW GS 1200 and 750 which I want to go moto camping with. I can't wait for it to arrive
I hope you will enjoy your MT450, 100km is no problem for this bike, let me know how you like it once it arrives 🤝
@@eddywave3315 Early May is what I'm told atm
Now we can really tell why it priced like that. Infact, feels a little expensive already. What an honest real world review. Getting sick of the launching videos where everybody seems like forced to say good things only
Thank you! In China the price of this bike is 4400$ which is a great deal! I loved the bike btw) but I was as honest as I could be, in a few weeks I’ll make one last mt450 review, where I’ll share my final thoughts
Appreciate your comment 🤜🤛
@@eddywave3315 nevertheless, not saying that the bike is bad at all... I'm actually wanting it and patiently waiting it to drop here in North of Borneo. Cheers
Hi ,
I only came across the rear bag rails in your video. Did you install these bag rails? Are they original accessories? Or is it an aliexpress product? I bought my motobike today and the seller told me that these rails were not available. Thanks in advance.
Hello, there are two versions, this one comes with 3 cases, but I didn’t put them on. The difference in price is 1500 rmb which is a little over 200$ here in China
How do you manage to test ride all of them, because I can't afford to buy more than 1 moto per year and then to sell it and next year another. The dealers in my country don't agree to make them advertising, very hard I managed to make a small collaboration with CFMOTO, but even there I find it hard. The rest, like KTM and Kavasaki they don't even want to discuss about test ride here. Any advice on how to approach would be apreciated! thanks ride safe, nice reviews
I very really get bikes from dealerships, in China Voge lets me do it, and I’m extremely lucky! (Thank you Voge!!👍) Cfmoto allows it too, but I can’t test it out properly coz the traffic is quite dense there. Other brands allow to ride only in a parking lot 😢 So what I do is renting these bikes, in China I can do that, I rented 80% of all the bikes on this channel.
KTM btw is nice here too, I could test ride few bikes the way I wanted, but I didn’t film)
Which country are you from? Do you have rent out places?
@eddywave3315 Cyprus, Only CFMOTO is letting me test, like to the first gas station and back, all others definitely refused me, I intend to make videos with me pretending to be a customer asking to testride 1 moto from each dealership and post how friendly they are. Very good idea about renting, this is a tourist island they have rentals I will exploit this thank you! ✌️💪👌
Thanks for the review. MT450 just came up in my country and you gave me the answers I am looking for. I wonder if replacing the tires would help with driving at higher speeds.
I think tires, the front fender and the windshield aren’t the best for riding over 130, but as you said it should be better if you replace those
If we change the sprocket to the ones on the 450nk, will the performance on the highway be similar to the 450nk?
for more stability on highway you have to get hard the rear suspension, if you do that the front end its going to feel more planted due to less wheight transfer
Thank you for your advice! Maybe I could do it again once my suspension is hardened, 99% of time I ride in a city and the suspension feels so good 🤜🤛
@@eddywave3315 great video!!!!! saludos desde Argentina !!!
Do you think the bike will be much better if the tyres were changed to proper road ones if i want to only use it for urban rides?
I think it would be a bit better, but the biggest game changer will be the front fender, and a bigger windshield
thanks for this video, from Mexico 🇲🇽
Thanks for watching! Shout out to Mexico 🇲🇽🤜🤛
Where are you testing this bike? In which country ? Cause models that made gor europe are i think less powerful due to euro 5 emissions crap.. so... that will be a good information
I test them all in China, actually some told me that European version is even more powerful, but I don’t know whether it’s true
High fender on the front increase the tendency to raise up the front of the bike. Maybe this the reason you feel it less "planted" on the highway.
This is normal. But, IIRC, you can have the version with low fender if you want.
Yes, you’re right! I think the fender played a crucial role in this! I don’t have a chance to change it, but since I ride in a city the vast majority of the time, it’s fine for me
You made a mistake. You tested the bike at asphalt road for high speed and stability, by using the high front off road fender. Try the same with the low fender that it is for street road trips and you will see a really different behavior.
But this is the way you get it from the showroom, where should we get the other fender? I'm really curious 🤔
You can choose the fender when you buy it. Both are available as option@@caffeydesire285
@@caffeydesire285 there is actually two versions of the bike, only difference being the fender.
I rent this bike, so I couldn’t change anything, however if I have a chance to change the fender I will! Thank you for your comment, I think it might be useful for people who ride these on highways 🤝
@@caffeydesire285 It will be available as replacement part, from CFmoto, so you can have both fenders then.
Thanks for making this video! Nice to see on road performance as well. Are you from Spain? Love the accent 😁
Appreciate it! Actually originally I’m from Ukraine! Cheers 🤜🤛
wud love to set this as a supermotard and drop 2 points at back sprockets
Well this will improve the top speed as far as I understand, if you do that let me know how it feels 🤝
Could it be said that 7000 rpm-120 km/h would be the cruising speed to travel long distances?
Excellent analysis, thank you! 😁
Yes! Bike feels great at 120/7000rpm on a highway! And the front fender that I have on my mt450 is an off road version, you can get another one and it will improve high speed stability (I’ve been told)Cheers 🤜🤛
@@eddywave3315 Thanks boy! 💪
@@moterosenfuga 🤜🤛
Well, most say the BMW 310GS wasn't meant for the interstate, but I have no problem cruising at 85mph doing a 40 mile commute.
I'm pretty sure the 450mt will be perfectly fine for interstate travel.
What is the release date for the 460 MT in China? Can you already buy and ride one outside of demo bikes?
It was available in Qingdao in the middle of the March, but you had to preorder mt450. If you pay now you have to wait for a month or so in my city, so I’ve just rented it for a month)
Im wondering if you stiffened up the suspension before taking it out for those speed tests on the highway?
I adjusted it to fit me better, but I didn’t make it harder for this ride on purpose
Thank you again for this new video!
I asked before if the front brake is still squeaky? Is it now?
I think I understand this is your bike! Congratulations ⭐️
Perhaps a steering dampener will resolve the front handle bar lightness? Will the touring windshield help with buffeting?
Thanks 🇺🇦🤙
Edit: Wanted to ask you because I cannot see it clearly, what RPM in 6th gear at 100 km/h & 120 km/h please?
Appreciate it!
The noise went away over time, after the first rain it went away, but when everything dried up it came back) but after the first week it went away for good) I didn’t do anything to it.
When you ride 100km/h the rpm is a bit less than 6000, at 120 it’s at 7000rpm which is good.
Yeah steering damper will help I think, but I don’t ride that fast usually, so I don’t think I need one.
This is not my bike, I rented it for a month, I paid 3600 rnb wich is around 500$ (in case you needed that)
I think a bigger windshield is a must have for a highway, but I just ride in a city, so it’s fine for my case.
Once again thanks for watching! Means a lot 🤝
@@eddywave3315 thank you your input & feedback ⭐️
What motorcycle do you currently have?
Would the 450MT be on the list?
I also do like the 450NK! I wish I could buy both. That is a dream.
Thanks again 🤙
@@stevesane800 I just got NK800! But I wanted to get nk450 as a second bike, coz I have a girlfriend and mt450 is a bit too big for her, nk450 felt amazing
I think I’ll make a video on my nk800 later this month
@@eddywave3315 Brilliant! That’s a big bike for China! Yeah, the 450MT is tall but seat height is 820mm. Not too tall
Nice review, thanks
Thanks for watching! Means a lot 🤝
Great review and your English is awesome too.
I appreciate it! I fight with anxiety during these reviews, my English suffers a lot 😅 but it means a lot to read your comment! Thank you 🤝
Thank you very good review 🙌
My pleasure! I’m really grateful for your comment! Thank you 🤜🤛
Great video, and it looks to be really honest which i really appreciate. No bul..t, but straight to the point.
You have one new subscriber from Serbia. Keep up the good work!
Btw this is not how i imagined China, it looks nice. Which town / area is this ?
Best regards!
First of I greatly appreciate your comment! Means a lot to me 🤝 Thank you for subscribing!
This is Qingdao, a costal city in China, love this place.
Shout out to Serbia 🤜🤛
Nice review !!!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you
1) Why is the reason you feel the handle bars feeling loose at high speed? Is that related to the chassis? Suspension adjustment? The size of the wheel 21 inches and or width?
2) Do you think by re mapping the engine/ECU? the engine can gain on power to accelerate and or reach higher speeds, and or even eliminate some vibrations at higher speed?
Ukraine greetings from Argentina
I think the reason why it felt so is the very light weight of the front end, and definitely coz I had an off road front fender! You can change it and it should be much better, other factors such as a front wheel could have add up to it as well
I think it might increase the top speed, but I need to check it out, only than I can say.
Shout out to Argentina 🤜🤛
@@eddywave3315 Great man thanks for your response!
From Morocco Definitely one of my favorite youtubers!
Thank you man! Comments like yours make me do it! I hope you will enjoy my new videos!!! Cheers 🤜🤛
Does it have speed limiter? Or it was hitting rev limiter? If it was rev limiter it is possible to put bigger sprocket on the front to slightly decrease torque but it will have higher top speed.
I’m sure you can make it faster! It felt to me like I hit the limit. But I’m not sure rev or speed. Smaller sprocket should make it faster but at the cost of bottom end torque
When you say less confident at 120klmh. How bad? Is it better than a crfrally? I’m thinking of selling my T7 for the 450mt. I don’t mind slow but need to be able to ride 1-2hours on highway with stability that is safe enough.
Trading Tenere700 for a MT450😮?
120 is fine! People say with the other front fender it must be better. But within 120km/h it felt good even with the off road fender? This bike is very comfortable and 2 hours will feel like nothing!
have you checked out the new Voge RR660? it looks pretty cool
Oh yeah, I want to! My local Voge dealership says it will be available in July, so I’m waiting. Once it’s available here I’ll get a hold of it ASAP🤜🤛
@@eddywave3315 hopefully we get it here too in the Philippines
@@zynki7644 do you have any Voges there?
@@eddywave3315 they first had the 500cc models and now the 525 models besides the CU525. I personally own a 500r
@@zynki7644 that’s good to know! I think Voge is a great choice overall, and they are getting better fast! Hope to get a hold of 660 ASAP🤜🤛
Thanks for review 🤝
What is cruising rpm at 100kmh and 120 kmh?
Appreciate it! If I’m not mistaken, it was at about 5000r-5500rpm at 100 and 6000 -6500rpm at 120km/h 6th gear
@@eddywave3315 thanks for response
Bro. Can u do review of Honda Sahara 300 or nx 500? Thank you
I can’t say now, coz it might be really hard to find in my city, but I’ll try to find something 🤝
Try tightening the preload of the fork only, not the rear. Then you might get more stability of the front end in high speeds.
Thank you! I think I should have done that, next time I go on a highway will follow your advice 🤝
@@eddywave3315 you can try and then give us some feedback. On my 390 adv it worked and I had better feeling from the front.
@@Batoshai450 🤜🤛
Amazing review bro. Im looking up for this bike to arrive in my country and test it. ✅️🥶
Thank you!!! Hope it gets to your country ASAP, I think you will enjoy it 🤜🤛
Does the 450mt really have a 140/70-18 on the rear? There is no tire at the dealers…
It does, but as far as I know there will be a homologation for 140/80-18 in some European countries - at least in Slovakia and Czechia.
Yes it has. Why is it so hard to find?
Thanks for providing some great information 🤝
@@eddywave3315 I don't know the exact reason, they are just not available in stores in Europe. You will find a few, but they are all sport-street oriented tires, no enduro.
Thanks for the review by the way, it was really informative, there are not many of them like this
@@sdery I appreciate it! Thank you for watching 🤝
Goodwork,but ,its an ADVENTURE bike and you rode on the ROAD the whole review?
Very nice review, awesome 😁
Glad you liked it! Thank you for watching 🤜🤛
Try change to new (grippier) tires and see if it's still unstable under high speed condition. I've heard that factory-come tires have less quality than aftermarket tires.
I’m sure it will help, but for my daily needs the ones mt450 has are fine, I think for an average rider these tires aren’t too bad 🤜🤛
Great review! What do you think will CF MOTO make a 700MT with 21inch front next year? ;) A T7 killer :)
Honestly I don’t know whether they will release 700mt or not, but I think they will keep on releasing new adv bikes for sure, and by now I love every single adv from them that I rode✊.
Nice reviews, thank you.
Thanks for watching! Hope it was useful 🤜🤛
150kmph is limited to china market. outside of china it is 170kmph
where did you learn this from
Euro5 legislation in Europe dropped 2hp and 3nm to keep the bike at 150kmh.
But some guy rode it at 170kmh in Greece so don’t know 😅
If 150 is the limit, how could I get to 159km/h🤔 but it makes sense, given that you can’t go that fast on a bike in China.
Appreciate it! Thanks for watching 🤜🤛
Hope to try the bike soon
Let me know what you think about it once have it🤜
Amazing video, thank you 🙏🏻 🎉
Thanks mate🤜🤛
What is the compfortable cruising on the high way? 130kmh maybe??
I would say 120 feels great! 130 is still ok, but after 140 it feels like mt450 is doing something it shouldn’t
@@eddywave3315 thanks bro..chinesse bikes are awesooooome!!😎 if you can in the near future do zontes 501g rewiew👍👍👍
@@ivanmaric4752 I’ll see what I can do, I need to find it)
@@eddywave3315 👍👍👍
Excelente video what camera use?
I appreciate it! DJI Action 3, with a chin mount from them too!
Would be ok to cruise on highway at 110-120km/h?
Not enaugh....that be veirdişh...
Well I think yes! Sub 120 is perfectly fine, if you go faster, probably you better change the fender and the windshield
You should do one for the clc
I think so too, I wish I could find one for a proper test ride
So, 1st of all you've got a new subscriber from Romania, 2nd, i've watched ALL your videos about Chinese brands, and love them all, Chinese manufacturers will conquer the world market for sure and they will be no.1 on sales worldwide especially CFmoto and Benelli, 3rd i WILL BUY one 450NK next month when they arrive in Romania (1st shipment in this country of this model 2024), so my question is ... for urban rides/occasionally touring rides i'm making the right choice in your opinion? i'm not much of a fan of adventure/enduro moto... im 1.83m tall and 100 Kg... if you can reply you have my respects!
Thank you for watching and subscribing!
NK 450 is an awesome bike! The best bike for a city in my opinion, amazing acceleration, exceptionally maneuverable, great gearbox, the best sound and performance in the class! I’ve almost bought it 2 weeks ago, but found a great deal for 800nk! You will not be disappointed, the only single thing I didn’t love is the seat, it’s rubbing my butt once I ride for over an hour 😂. BTW I rode an nk450 the other day with 12000 km on it, and the bike didn’t have any issues. So reliability is on point!
Shout out to Romania!!! Hope I can visit someday 🤜🤛
And I’m 185/90 kg with my gear on, the bike felt great for my size
the only thing I was worried about this bike is acceleration over 90km/h while overtaking cars. I have new Svarptilen 401 which has 46hp and only thing I`m missing is that acceleration speed while overtaking from 75 and above. This will be even slower, if just this would have like 10 - 15 more hp
Yeah, it can still do that, but you’re right, MT450 doesn’t feel very confident overtaking vehicles on higher speed
Thank you, very nice review, really interested in this bike, waiting when it is available in Russia. This year there is no delivery of 450 MT.
Now riding 800 MT, but struggling with the seat hight and weight of 800 MT. What do think, is 450 MT better for shorter rider in terms of seat hight and weight compare with 800 MT?
Thank you for your comment!
I think mt450 is a perfect bike for you! It’s lower, much lighter and just as fun to ride! Hope you get it soon 🤝
Great video, well done. Thank you bro ❤
Glad you liked it! Appreciate you comment! Thanks for watching 🤝
Can you get a Suzuki V-Strom 250sx to compare? Obviously it has less power, however if you never go over 100kph does it matter? I want/like the MT 450, then I think since I stay under 100kph and often on broken pavement, dirt, and rocky roads, why pay more for more performance that I will never use?
It’s a good idea, I think I can try to find V-Storm, I understand your point, let’s see whether I can make it happen 🤜🤛
@@eddywave3315 Great! Thank you
450sr have more top speed. Is the machine different? Or just sproket gear, i know mt ist not for top speed, but i just wonder if we use street tyre and 17" rim, can mt450 compete with 450sr?
its supersport bro all the mechanics and aerodynamics working in different way
like example naked nk450 topspeed 180km.h
Even though the engine is pretty much the same, but it has been tuned in a different way, torque delivery is very different, gears and things like that + the form factor, even acceleration is different, but it’s a more fun bike for me regardless!
You answered better than I would have 😂 thank you 🤜🤛
A review on Himalayan 450 as well
I wish I could find one in China
When it comes to vibrations, context matters, those tyres are going to cause vibrations, i know that because i have tried many different tyres on my Versys x300, and they make quite the impact, for example, fhe Dunlop Trailmax (130/80/17) is very smooth, the Michelin Sirac (same size) is waaaay harsher at first when brand new, it needs to wear in to be smoother.
I agree! But I don’t think these tires are as bad as people say! Sure thing the ones you mentioned will be better, but overall the one we get from the showroom will suffice for the majority of riders in my opinion
@@eddywave3315I agree, after all, no one should ever judge the capabilities of a bike with the stock tyres.
Hello sir, may I ask, is the cfmoto 650GT are rare even in China? it really hard to find aftermarket parts for this model, even the workshop manual is non existent. Thank you
Hi! I checked and there are 5 650gt for sale in my city, they aren’t the most common bikes, but you can still find them no problem! And I don’t think it’s a problem to find parts for it here as well
@@eddywave3315 Noted thank you for the info, no wonder it hard to find people with those bike, it always the sibling 650MT , I thought they already discontinued the GT model
Maybe if you convert it into motard set-up and change the combination of sprockets it'll be more fun to ride in highways and its gonna have more speed.
I will leave it to other guys) not my bike, just renting it, one thing to say is that it’s great for a city and I don’t want to change anything . Thank you for the advice 🤜🤛
4:55 probably adjust valves?
I think it was the wind, but I’m not sure
A CFMOTO ainda não lançou no Brasil 😓
Hope they will soon🤜🤛Shout out to Brazil✊
Very nice bike hope to have one some day!
You and me both! You’ll not be disappointed)
Nice review bro, very usefull. I am choosing between Tenere 700 and this bike and highly possible that I'll buy 450MT because of x2 better price :D
If you’re riding off road then the mt450 will be fine. However, if you’re riding in the interstate at all, I would recommend a bigger bike like the Transalp XL750. The wind on lighter bikes isn’t your friend.
I love Tenere 700, my friend had one from 1993 and it’s almost as good as a new bike even now! But the price difference is enormous!!! In China for example my450 is 4400$ and Tenere 700 is 14000$+ taxes
Very good video 👍🔥. From Switzerland
Thank you!!! Shout out to Switzerland 🇨🇭🤜🤛
I would love you to do the same for the 450 Himalayan and compare.
Oh I wish I could do that, but I don’t think I could find Himalayan 450 in my city. But if I can, I’ll do it✊
4:44 There you have guys... aceleration moment 7:00
Thank you! Right to the point 🤜🤛
Himlayan 450 killer is here❤
I haven’t ridden Himalayan450 but MT450 is really good
Hey on the handles being too light you need to try different front tire mine was 90/90 i pu 80 its its better now
Thank you for the advice! I think it will be helpful for people reading this!
How much is the bike in china, in RMB ? Thanks
Around 31000rnb without cases and 33000rnb with 3 cases
تحية من كازابلانكا من المغرب
Shout out to Morocco! Thank you for watching🤜🤛
@@eddywave3315 اهلا وسهلا ننتظر دخول هذه الدراجة للمغرب قريبا فهي تنافس عندنا royal enfieled himalayenne 2024 في نفس الفئة السعرية
Hi from France when you buy this trail bike it's not to drive into thé city and not on thé highway it's first for off road ...
I know! But in the end of the first video I asked people what they wanted to see in my next videos, and the vast majority of people said they are curious about the top speed and highway performance. Hope you can understand. Shout out to France🤜🤛
He has off road in every other 450MT review other than this one
What is the odometer at the moment of filming?
500km or so
What is the fuel consumption riding at 60-70kph?
If you’re on a highway it’s less then 3 liters per 100km in a city 5+ liters
@@eddywave3315 so same as my car 😂
Great adv for SE Asia or countries with limited high ways, not like in Europe and or USA. I enjoy your upload
I can’t agree with you more! Thank you for watching 🤝
Champion 👍
I highly appreciate it! 🤜🤛Thanks for watching!!!
Finally 🎉
I appreciate you watching! Thanks 🤜🤛 means a lot)
Think I choose 250 versys x
Nice bike too
Hi, i'm 5'5 is it possible to ride this moto?
I think yes, my girlfriend tried, she’s just like you, she managed to ride, but she’s not used to this type of bikes, for her it felt too big, but she says the same about everything😂 So I think you’ll not have problems 🤜🤛
It puts out similar power & torque to a Kawasaki KLR650 so it should cruise ar 100-120 resonably comfortably
100-120 is no problem, but if you go up the hill 130 might be a problem, I’ve checked the top speed once again yesterday, will upload it soon, you can see the 0-top speed acceleration, and how it feels🤜🤛
Me encanta la moto, me gustaría ver la reacción de esa moto con peso y acompañante, en una carretera en inclinación cual será su velocidad en subida
Yes! I want to do that too, I’m waiting for my girlfriend to come back! Once she’s here I’ll try mt450 with a passenger
Very great video and i dont care for the highway speed anyway and in Norway the highest speed aloved is 110 km/h anyway and i like drive around 90-100 km/h with my car on the highway so i guess i dont buy this mc anyway to drive on any highway so it wil be small roads with speed limit max 80 km/h and less so some offroad wil be done too and i think this is the perfeckt bike for that.
And the good thing it is small and nible and don't weight a ton anly 190 kg wet so it is good.
Exactly! It’s a perfect bike for pretty much everything but fast speed highways. Likewise I’m riding in the city, and it’s the perfect bike for the job! Can’t get enough! I recommend you to try one out when you get a chance 🤜🤛 Shout out to Norway ✊
I feel like all CFMoto bikes have that issue. From a stop having issues getting it into 1st gear from 2nd or even neutral from 1st gear. My fiancée has a Papio and I ran into that issue often. Kind of annoying.
Actually the new CFmotos don’t have this problem on average, that was the first time, but some other Chinese motorcycles have that problem, which is indeed very annoying
Keep it up! This is the winning formula of reviews!
Thank you! That's the plan!