This Roller Coaster Was Practically Illegal - Moonsault Scramble ムーンサルトスクランブル

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    Moonsault Scramble was one of the most radical roller coasters to ever exist! So radical that the ride today may not be considered "legal" in many parts of the world.
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    Video Chapters:
    00:00 - Intro
    01:28 - Fuji-Q Highland
    02:53 - HelloFresh
    04:29 - Moonsault Scramble
    08:15 - Transfer Table
    09:13 - Ride Experience
    12:17 - "Illegal" G-Forces
    14:32 - Why Was it so Intense?
    21:03 - Euthanasia Coaster
    23:35 - Block Zones & Capacity
    25:37 - Conclusion
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  • @ElToroRyan
    @ElToroRyan  ปีที่แล้ว +67

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    • @wesss9353
      @wesss9353 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Reaction video of Tom Scott over coming his fear of roller-coasters???
      Could probably make a TH-cam short about it

    • @Mike-gv8zh
      @Mike-gv8zh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey, you did a really good job at making this video enjoyable! Thank you for your time and hard work you put into this video.

    • @Gregforgood
      @Gregforgood 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@wesss93530 , , ,

  • @jakedaonlysnake
    @jakedaonlysnake ปีที่แล้ว +1088

    this is the type of coaster you build on RCT2 and none of the guests will ride it because the intensity is too high

    • @Canadas_Wonderland_Nerd
      @Canadas_Wonderland_Nerd ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Moonsalt scramble 1 looks too intense for me

    • @johnfoltz8183
      @johnfoltz8183 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Intensity Rating: ULTRA EXTREME

    • @danielvandersall6756
      @danielvandersall6756 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah, I love those

    • @darincampbell171
      @darincampbell171 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Honestly, I don’t believe that ANY engineer could have a coaster built that would be too intense for me! I simply love roller coasters. The more radical and intense, the better for me! Safety is of upmost the most significant quality of ANY coaster for me. It would all be in good fun. Well, just one man’s thoughts and opinion. Keep the peace.

    • @Canadas_Wonderland_Nerd
      @Canadas_Wonderland_Nerd ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@darincampbell171 what about the enthusias coaster

  • @Fry_tag
    @Fry_tag ปีที่แล้ว +773

    "Moonsault Scramble looks too intense for me"
    Intensity: 15.66 (Ultra extreme)

    • @johnfoltz8183
      @johnfoltz8183 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      Just looking at Corkscrew Coaster 1 makes me feel sick!

    • @Galactis1
      @Galactis1 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I'm happy others have played the greatest videogame of all time.

    • @terrysweat4187
      @terrysweat4187 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I’m not scared to ride any roller coaster 🎢 the higher,faster,wilder it doesn’t matter to me. It doesn’t matter to me if they build it I will ride it.!!!!

    • @Ori_-
      @Ori_- ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@terrysweat4187 ur gonna have fun when euthenesia coaster is built

    • @GigsVT
      @GigsVT ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@terrysweat4187 I got whiplash or mild concussion as a kid from a terrible local wooden coaster. Massive headache and sick from my head slamming. Maybe these days they are safer or would at least have head padding, but it is possible for them to be bad. Modern ones just spoiled people with their smooth tubes.

  • @HeelBJC
    @HeelBJC ปีที่แล้ว +649

    The support structure of the pretzel knot over the ice rink with the two pillars on each side might genuinely be some of the most beautiful roller coaster architecture I've seen.

    • @TeemoQuinton
      @TeemoQuinton ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Genuinely wish more coasters tried to actually integrate the support structure with... Better aesthetics and function.

    • @kylewatson2226
      @kylewatson2226 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      That support structure is legitimately gorgeous and ingenious. Fits perfectly with the area and is aesthetically pleasing to the eye.

    • @alexlents4689
      @alexlents4689 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Fr! It’s a bit unnecessary, but really adds to the epic scale of the ride! Would’ve loved to see it irl!

    • @iliketrains3546
      @iliketrains3546 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alexlents4689 it probably wasn’t unnecessary considering how forceful this ride was

    • @friendformationbot
      @friendformationbot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i completely agree, i was thinking that the whole time! what a piece of art!

  • @TiredFerret
    @TiredFerret ปีที่แล้ว +590

    The 229 is a Japanese pun based on various possible readings of the numbers. The first 2 in this case can be read as "fu" from the common word futatsu (two things), the second 2 can be read as "ji" using an obscure Chinese derived pronunciation (can be seen in one way to spell the common name Jiro), and lastly 9 can be read as "kyuu" which is the most common reading of 9. All together, 229 can be read as "fujikyuu," the name of the park. :)
    This is also why they chose the height level of 229 feet and also why they probably never lowered the lift height to deal with the excessive g-forces...

    • @kentslocum
      @kentslocum ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Wow! Thanks for the info; it's fascinating to hear how other languages play with words.

    • @mondenkindqueen
      @mondenkindqueen ปีที่แล้ว +26

      It’s called Goroawase number wordplay.

    • @SnowghostFilms
      @SnowghostFilms ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I thought 229 ft was simply 70 meters metric, but that pun is really cool.

    • @gameplayxtreme3389
      @gameplayxtreme3389 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      They made an illegally intense coaster for the pun. God I love the world sometimes

    • @TheWASHINGMACHINEBOY
      @TheWASHINGMACHINEBOY ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL

  • @offrails
    @offrails ปีที่แล้ว +120

    Leave it to ElToroRyan to talk about block zones on a shuttle coaster

  • @ianrichardson-gm4hc
    @ianrichardson-gm4hc ปีที่แล้ว +198

    Ryan standing at the front of the euthanasia coaster: “ need the credit.”

    • @James-fg3ed
      @James-fg3ed 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Underrated comment

    • @mtbshawn0
      @mtbshawn0 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lol

  • @dantc2403
    @dantc2403 ปีที่แล้ว +376

    Based on its ridership, I would say Moonsault Scramble succeeded in being a youth-in-Asia coaster.

  • @krs12
    @krs12 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    I rode this the last summer it was open. It was our first ride of the day, and we were shocked the station was empty. We had no idea what we were in for and my girlfriend was done for the day after 1 ride.

  • @coreyklima8929
    @coreyklima8929 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    I rode it in 2000 when I was 14 visiting my aunt and uncle who were stationed in Japan with the navy. I rode it twice and I grayed out both times and it gave me a huge headache. However I would ride it again the intensity was off the charts.

    • @chumon1992
      @chumon1992 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sadly I have a very low tolerance for nausea so if I went on it I'd probably barf everywhere after lol

    • @retrovideogameszone8427
      @retrovideogameszone8427 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I call bs.

    • @monkeyanimationandgaming
      @monkeyanimationandgaming 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@retrovideogameszone8427why?

    • @ScapoloMichael
      @ScapoloMichael 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      A friend of mine rode it in 1984 and 1996. He says it's still the most intense force he's ever felt on any ride. He turns 65 tomorrow.

    • @assemblyrequired7342
      @assemblyrequired7342 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was wondering why the safety guidelines matter if the worst that can happen i passing out. That's a risk I'm willing to take as long as I'm already lying down (or won't fall out of my seat). Having a headache would be annoying, but a huge one even more so. Most guests probably wouldn't tolerate it.
      Still, it's nothing that an aspirin can't take care of, right?

  • @mikepeterson9881
    @mikepeterson9881 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    I rode it in 1996 on a school trip to Japan. I remember how the backward pass through the station felt endless and how fast the inversion hit. I've never been pushed into my seat so hard. Crazy ride.

    • @DannytheTourist
      @DannytheTourist ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The seniors at my high school went to Japan too.

    • @rmac3217
      @rmac3217 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its your body that wants to stay still, not the train, so you would be pushed into the lap bar on the problematic first pass through.

    • @euhm
      @euhm ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@rmac3217 No, with all due respect, you've got that wrong, in both occasions coming down the hill and going up in to the pretzel, the train goes up relative to your body wanting to go forward, so you get pushed into your seat. In no occasion will your body be wanting to stay still because it's already moving with the coaster. It's the sudden shift in track that pushes you int the seat. The only time you will be pushed into your lap bars is on an air-time hill and there are none on this coaster.

  • @jaimerosado3896
    @jaimerosado3896 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Fun fact: block zones don’t just apply to roller coaster trains. Conventional railroads and subways are also broken into block zones.

    • @man_in_space
      @man_in_space 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I did not know this, but it makes sense if you think about it. Thank you!

  • @TheJudoJoker
    @TheJudoJoker ปีที่แล้ว +102

    For those of you who are unfamiliar, the Euthanasia Coaster is what I built in every single one of my parks in Roller Coaster Tycoon as a child.

    • @songsthatarecatchy
      @songsthatarecatchy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did anyone ever ride them?

    • @sunset-peril
      @sunset-peril 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I am now faced with the temptation to do the same thing 😂

  • @Syclone0044
    @Syclone0044 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Let’s be honest: if this ride were open today and limited tickets were being offered via an email posted on this video, that inbox would be filled to the brim

    • @bestjuliawest
      @bestjuliawest 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I’ve yet to meet a coaster that gets me even close to graying out. I wish this monster still existed

    • @chdreturns
      @chdreturns 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same, I hold the loss of moonsault up there with that of the blue streak and along with every enthusiast ever the airplane coaster.

    • @assemblyrequired7342
      @assemblyrequired7342 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It kind of sucks that the closest thing to experiencing this is probably only acrobatic plane rides that costs FAR more per ride.

  • @bjornchristensen1973
    @bjornchristensen1973 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I visited Fuji-Q for the first time during autumn 2000. I had no knowledge of online forums or even that rcdb had existed for 4 years back then. So the only knowledge I had was from a book that had pictures of mainly Moonsault Scramble and Fujiyama on the pages showcasing Fuji-Q. Imagine my surprise when we turned up and there was nothing but an emty plot of land where Moonsault Scramble once was. It had only been dismantled months prior to my visit. I still today think of it as the one that got away. Thank you for an excellent video with so much footage that I have never seen before.

  • @evman182
    @evman182 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    The block zone bit legitimately made me lol! Good job

    • @khittyhawk9651
      @khittyhawk9651 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      For some reason, the block zone glitch noise creeped me the hell out after all that talk of the Euthanasia Coaster!

    • @nevaehhamilton3493
      @nevaehhamilton3493 ปีที่แล้ว

      He does it for all his rollercoaster vids.

    • @evman182
      @evman182 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nevaehhamilton3493 I meant the joke he made in this one

    • @chumon1992
      @chumon1992 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I still can't get over his Tampa Busch gardens video when he went on the water ride and the boat behind him smacked right into his, then he proceeded to ask every operator he passed on the ride if they knew what a block zone is XD

  • @jorge3997
    @jorge3997 ปีที่แล้ว +286

    It’s so cool you have all this footage of the coaster. I remember a few years ago wanting to see more of this ride but there were only a few pictures and only one video in the internet. It’s cool to see there’s so much more.

    • @caseydominick7806
      @caseydominick7806 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's on the on the internet not in the internet

    • @jorge3997
      @jorge3997 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@caseydominick7806 sorry, I’m not a native English speaker

    • @cerberus1166
      @cerberus1166 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@caseydominick7806 not with that attitude it isnt.
      ill tell Mark to leave you out of the Meta.

    • @caseydominick7806
      @caseydominick7806 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's cool yea when you use the word in it means physical preposition like in the box or in the house and since you can't be physically inside the internet or your computer but you can be on your computer or the internet it is on

    • @tyburvandeezo8218
      @tyburvandeezo8218 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@caseydominick7806 "It's on the on the internet not in the internet"

  • @Soonjai
    @Soonjai ปีที่แล้ว +53

    That footage of Loop Coaster before the changes looks absolutely mental to the point that that you´re trying to convince yourself that it has to be sped up, until you realize that that this can´t be case based on other things in the video and how the camera moves. I can look at Moonsault Scramble and still wanting to ride it, but I most likely chickened out of the unmodified Loop Coaster if I saw it going through the loop at that speed.

    • @rmac3217
      @rmac3217 ปีที่แล้ว

      There used to be the ‘space ring’ ride everywhere as well that spin you around ball cage, depending on it’s make and regulations the operator could actually give you astronaut training and potentially make your faint.

    • @Syclone0044
      @Syclone0044 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rmac3217 ohhhhh do you mean the one like a gyroscope , single rider, that pivots around the rider’s waistline?

    • @dibble1331
      @dibble1331 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      i once heard that in its unmodified state it pulled well over 9 fucking g’s. it’s like they were trying to kill people

  • @MattMcIrvin
    @MattMcIrvin ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I'd never thought much about how that little second lift on a Vekoma Boomerang does a lot to make the *first* pass through the inversions bearable.

    • @z50king29
      @z50king29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My ears still hurt

  • @UberBeavis
    @UberBeavis ปีที่แล้ว +55

    This was one of the very few coasters on Earth that almost made me question riding rollercoasters in general.

    • @Sirrom0206
      @Sirrom0206 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed.

    • @Lexcoaster
      @Lexcoaster ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You rode it? What was it like?

  • @stoppropaganda2573
    @stoppropaganda2573 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Nice job finding the archive footage and just a side note, I would bet that most riders suffered at least a minor ocular blood vessel rupture and at worst a brain vascular injury if the 6.5 Gs was sustained for more than a few seconds, this thing had to be rough! The space shuttle went from 0 to 17,500 MPH with no more than a comfortable 3 Gs and got you into an earth orbit!

    • @DannytheTourist
      @DannytheTourist ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So they pretty much end up like Scotty Fischer. (Has PTSD because they didn't show inside him)

    • @Syclone0044
      @Syclone0044 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wait what?? I thought the Space Shuttle pulled 8-10 Gs. Are you sure about that 3G figure? I mean we’re talking solid rocket boosters.....

    • @stoppropaganda2573
      @stoppropaganda2573 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Syclone0044 According to The National Space Center,
      "The g-force of a rocket launch is limited by the cargo it is carrying. In the case of a manned mission, it is limited by what a human is able to endure.High levels of g-force can damage the body and at around 9gs most humans black out as blood struggles to reach the brain. Shuttle Astronauts normally experience a maximum g-force of around 3gs during a rocket launch.".

    • @bestjuliawest
      @bestjuliawest 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@Syclone0044​​⁠That’s more like a fighter jet. Also astronauts are rotated transversely to the direction of acceleration to mitigate the G-force. They do train in up to 10 Gs via centrifuge, though that’s more for total mind and body conditioning than to simulate a rocket launch

    • @assemblyrequired7342
      @assemblyrequired7342 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It takes more than 6 g's before riders are subjected to harmful gravitational effects. If subjected to 7 g's, you might pass out, but it again won't cause any permanent harmful effects. As one of the riders above stated, you might wake up with a pounding head (blood circulation will be cut off during acceleration, and then it is going to be trying to rush back into your head as soon as gravity will allow), it shouldn't be enough to cause harm to blood vessels at this point. For this reason, I would consider 7 g's to be the safe maximum a human can experience.
      As you go into 8 g's, that's when you'll start to have real problems.

  • @alexlents4689
    @alexlents4689 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    That Loop Coaster was F***ING NUTS!! Probably the most intense modern coaster ever built! Interestingly, although the loop and forward spike were removed after it closed in 2000, the station and the reverse spike (the one with the actual lift) are both still standing today!
    As for Moonsault, its still probably one of the most visually-striking coasters ever built. With both rides, I honestly have no idea what Meisho was thinking. Did they think the trains were gonna have sandpaper wheels and had to take high friction into account? Who knows. It’s even more confusing because in other areas, they were clearly ahead of the curve. Parts of the profiling on Moonsault looked really fluid for the time, like the middle sections of the spikes. Also, the wider track gauge with regular width trains meant the wheels were off to the side. I think that was probably done to sort of act as heartlining, since riders are closer to the design reference point (the running rails), much like a pipeline coaster.

    • @dhubxudxdgvshdvsd6845
      @dhubxudxdgvshdvsd6845 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the most intense wad Grand Centrifugal Railway pulling 13 G's and Flip Flap Railway number 2 pulling 12

    • @DannytheTourist
      @DannytheTourist ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is the Japanese Zonga

    • @da22a
      @da22a ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If the cars were at a regular height, the loop diameter for the riders would be even lower

    • @alexlents4689
      @alexlents4689 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@da22a Yeah, I suppose that could have been another reason

    • @assemblyrequired7342
      @assemblyrequired7342 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It could be one of those very rare occasions where a ride company greenlights a design that really pushes the limit on what a roller coaster or other ride can do. I'm sure that there are many designers who would like to design rides that subjects daring riders close to g-forces that might cause them to black out.
      I guess that there is just this appeal to see how much you can safely subject to yourself, and furthermore if you can take it without actually blacking out. Plus, that feeling of being glued to your seat is just an exhilarating, addictive feeling.
      I think I remember one coaster designer saying that the ultimate coaster design is one where you have to be dragged off the coaster. But manufacturers have not been willing to actually push things to that limit.
      I do wish that the Moonsault Scramble were still active, or that there was another ride that has a similar amount of g-forces, but I guess that the only way to currently experience that amount is on acrobatic or trainer jet rides. I'm not sure that the average coaster rider would be open to forces that intense, and the re-rideability of the Moonsault is suspect at best.

  • @js1198
    @js1198 ปีที่แล้ว +523

    One of the roller coasters of all time.

    • @domenichughes7792
      @domenichughes7792 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      gotta hand it to meisho, they had an idea and they sent it

    • @boltgaming248
      @boltgaming248 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      the most intense coaster if you ask me

    • @nigolski
      @nigolski ปีที่แล้ว +4

      truly

    • @elevatoralarmcoasterandarc1214
      @elevatoralarmcoasterandarc1214 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here.

    • @joemarais7683
      @joemarais7683 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@boltgaming248 it’s either this one or that one random euro fighter looking coaster with a drop pulling 7Gs

  • @hokyman
    @hokyman ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I gotta say that's one of the most beautifully structured coasters I've ever seen. It's a bummer it had so many problems and had such low capacity. It really was visually a work of art. I should be hitting up FujiQ Highland next year as part of my Japan trip (along with a bunch of other parks).

  • @TallisYourName
    @TallisYourName ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My 2nd credit was Meisho Coaster. It was the Thunderbolt at Dreamworld Australia. To be fair I was either 8 or 9 years old, but I passed out while going up the first Loop (it had 2 back to back loops) and didn't come too till somewhere near the end of the ride. So I don't remember much presides the nice view we got before the 1st drop. I rode it with my Dad cause I just made the height limit for the ride. It messed him up too. I also had back pain after riding it for a few days.

    • @rmac3217
      @rmac3217 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That coaster was a rust bucket, the first drop wasn’t even a drop, just a slight curve downwards and the rest was head banging.

  • @kurtbrigandi
    @kurtbrigandi ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I remember this!! I used to get ACE's Roller Coaster Magazine in the early 90's and this was one of those legendary coasters that remained mysterious for the longest time due to being pre-internet.

  • @Wilhelm1407Coasters
    @Wilhelm1407Coasters ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Finally a decent video on Moonsault Scramble! ❤As insane as this ride was, that inversion was beautiful to look at. I've often wished Vekoma would build a boomerang with this inversion, but obviously with safer G forces. lol

    • @boltgaming248
      @boltgaming248 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      maybe the knot should be taller

    • @Wilhelm1407Coasters
      @Wilhelm1407Coasters ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@boltgaming248 it wouldn't necessarily need to be taller. The pretzel inversion was comically smaller than the original total height of the coaster. It only needs to be tall enough to compete the inversion once. There's always the small lift on the top of the backwards drop of Vekoma Boomerangs. Moonsault scramble wouldn't have needed to be so tall if it had a lift on both hills. Since they only had one lift it needed to be tall enough to have enough momentum to complete the inversion once, climb the other drop, and complete the inversion a second time all just with potential and kinetic energy.

    • @boltgaming248
      @boltgaming248 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wilhelm1407Coasters i couldn't read the entire thing but ok 😐👍

    • @maxhagenauer24
      @maxhagenauer24 ปีที่แล้ว

      How are these G Forces "unsafe"?

    • @Wilhelm1407Coasters
      @Wilhelm1407Coasters ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@maxhagenauer24 When under high positive G’s, blood is being forced from the head to the feet so riders “grey out” due to the lack of blood flow to the brain.
      This can happen at +5gz. Loss of consciousness can also occur at +5gz.
      Moonsault Scramble had a total of +6.5gz. Many coasters don't go over +4gz these days.

  • @plazasta
    @plazasta ปีที่แล้ว +8

    when talking about Japanese coaster manufacturers, everyone thinks of Togo, but really Meisho don't get enough attention. Of course, there's the madness that is their looping coasters and Moonsault Scramble, but the other thing that comes to mind was how in 1987, they took one of their shuttle loops, High Loop Coaster at Nasu Highland Park, turned the lift spike into a traditional lift hill, moved the loop elsewhere in the layout, and converted the coaster into a full circuit coaster. Craziest part is how online I saw a stat that said the first drop was at 75°! In 1987! I don't know for sure, but it wouldn't surprise me if, as long as you don't count Intamin's earliest drop towers as roller coasters, this coaster was the steepest coaster in the world until Oblivion opened

  • @guylavoie1342
    @guylavoie1342 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've ridden the Mindbender coaster in Edmonton Canada a few times, and it certainly had intense G forces. The tight 3rd loop pulled 5.5 G's and going through it felt like the longest 1.5 seconds of your life. Too bad it has closed after 37 years of operation. I'm glad I got to experience that amazing world record indoor coaster more than once.

  • @maxhagenauer24
    @maxhagenauer24 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I've heard that this thing actually pulled 7 Gs sometimes, I freaking love positive Gs when they are strong. It's extremely safe that modern coasters don't have positive Gs anywhere close to strong like these and Schwarzdof.

  • @da22a
    @da22a ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The smallest vertical loops I've experienced was at Dreamworld's Thunderbolt rollercoaster. At the time it was also Australia's highest coaster. The Gs on those loops were insane!

  • @Spike-sk7ql
    @Spike-sk7ql ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dude! It was great meeting you yesterday at Carowinds! Thanks for the pic. It's kind of funny that I told you how much I love the problematic coasters series you do, and now here one is.

  • @-Steven-
    @-Steven- 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What we need is for someone to recreate this in VR, yes you wouldn't get the g-force or the sensation of the winding hitting your face but you would still get an experience very close to riding the original without needing millions of dollars to build your own.

  • @chickencoop1387
    @chickencoop1387 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I almost thought this video wouldn’t mention block zones, got me in the first half not gonna lie. Great video Ryan keep it up

  • @okankyoto
    @okankyoto ปีที่แล้ว +15

    In G force terms, NASA considers 3G "normal" for a mission to orbit and anything more is only felt in an abort...

    • @ErikaKellyGeorge
      @ErikaKellyGeorge ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Moonsault Abortion. Wait...

    • @filanfyretracker
      @filanfyretracker 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      an important note of course is that in a rocket launch and capsule return you get eyeballs in G loads vs head to toe. Despite being space themed, this coaster like most pulls G forces like a jet fighter does on the body.

  • @The2Trolles
    @The2Trolles ปีที่แล้ว +7

    At 11:35 , a possibility for the noise could be the wheels of the train passing over a gap in the transfer track. You can hear the same noise on the other pass through the station before the final ascent, although I'm trying to figure out if the first passthrough also has that noise or if it's another noise that's getting drowned out.

  • @YuukiTakemoto1996
    @YuukiTakemoto1996 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    This was my mom's favourite roller coaster.

    • @sprawlz6466
      @sprawlz6466 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That’s a W

    • @bestjuliawest
      @bestjuliawest 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Your mom sounds awesome

  • @ChrisCcron10
    @ChrisCcron10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember seeing that car back in 2018 when I visited and they were celebrating their anniversary. The first thing I thought was "I can only imagine how much force this vehicle took!".

  • @mel.washere
    @mel.washere หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    FYI: This coaster is still running in Buenos Aires, Argentina in the Parque de la Costa. It’s called “Boomerang”

  • @jackfeldman3916
    @jackfeldman3916 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The sound that you hear in the station is actually the sound of the train screeching against the tire drives. If you listen to some videos of Big Boom, it sounds very similar. However, it is curious that there were things in the station that looked like friction brakes, AND the usual Meisho tire brakes usually take way longer to decelerate. However, on Moonsault, they are below the train as opposed to on the sides, so that might affect it.

  • @tabuoey
    @tabuoey ปีที่แล้ว +5

    thank you so much for making this video. ive had a strange fascination with this ride ever since visiting fuji-q highland in 2019. from its name, to its extreme g forces, something about this ride is unsettling to me, i love it.

  • @brazpack
    @brazpack ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The day a roller coaster actually features 14 block zones is the day this channel reaches its natural end as ElToroRyan will burst into flames

    • @hassathunter2464
      @hassathunter2464 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *cough* Big Thunder Mountain, probably more...

  • @Jinkies.its.Juliet
    @Jinkies.its.Juliet 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I would love to see a video on Tower of Terror, sounds so interesting esp the fact that it's still operating despite the "illegality"

  • @ToaOfFusion
    @ToaOfFusion ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Kudos for adding the kana in the video title. Now that's what I call dedication

  • @talflick
    @talflick ปีที่แล้ว +5

    last time I was this early to an ElToroRyan video, the park was closed for poor operating weather and I had to go to the McDonalds playplace, which I was surprised to find had 8 separate block zones!

    • @johnfoltz8183
      @johnfoltz8183 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did it count as a new credit?

  • @zeustrix4675
    @zeustrix4675 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Would of loved to of ridden this just purely for the experience of such force. Anyways, love the video (as I always do) and the block zones never get old.

  • @ThemeParkCrazy
    @ThemeParkCrazy ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Your videos continue to deliver some of the best research on TH-cam! 👍

    • @Canadas_Wonderland_Nerd
      @Canadas_Wonderland_Nerd ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The coaster multiverse expands

    • @ElToroRyan
      @ElToroRyan  ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Thanks man! And same to you! I always look forward to your videos!

    • @Canadas_Wonderland_Nerd
      @Canadas_Wonderland_Nerd ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ElToroRyan phase 2 of the coaster multiverse

    • @marcbasil
      @marcbasil ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ElToroRyanlol this is not a Meisho coaster, they merely built it. Vekoma designed this

    • @alexlents4689
      @alexlents4689 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marcbasil ummmmm … no …? This was entirely done by Meisho

  • @nottrevorallen
    @nottrevorallen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as a space nerd i wanna note the upper g limit for the apollo launches were 4.2 g. they would throttle down to maintain that before staging
    soyuz is the most forceful launch i know offhand, which can hit as high as 4.5. 6.5 is insane for a rocket takeoff

    • @nottrevorallen
      @nottrevorallen ปีที่แล้ว

      (though notably, 6.5 is much less insane for peak capsule reentries, on par with the early apollo lunar returns)

  • @Nygon08
    @Nygon08 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i was getting scared there wasnt a section of the video about block zones

  • @YukeWeiss
    @YukeWeiss ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I went to Fuji-Q a couple of months ago so this was a good memory. Trust them to create a rollercoaster that would be much too strong.

  • @kentslocum
    @kentslocum ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was pretty shocked to see that the loop on Loop Coaster looked almost completely circular.

  • @FMasterMCPEG
    @FMasterMCPEG ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Theres another coaster that features that Rare inversion (Pretzel knot)
    Banshee - B&M
    in Kings Island

  • @Dovgtrio
    @Dovgtrio ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm so happy you came out with a video on this coaster. You make some of my favorite roller coaster content.
    This roller coaster has fascinated me since I learned of it's existence. I think it has something to do with how tall it is as a shuttle coaster and that the pretzel element just looks really cool. I can't think of a single shuttle coaster with a similar height. It's a beast.
    I was almost sure you wouldn't have had a block zones section in this video lol have you ever considered making merch based off your signature "for those who don't know, a block zone..." line?

  • @simonr6268
    @simonr6268 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think fairest measurement for shuttle coasters would be the height of the center of mass of the train at the highest position of the train.

  • @CONGTHEGUERILLA
    @CONGTHEGUERILLA ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is the defunct coaster I’m most upset about being gone tbh

  • @newtagwhodis4535
    @newtagwhodis4535 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bro you are the best roller coaster documentarian on TH-cam no doubt! You should be damn proud! Thank you for your great works. Cheers

  • @shelby8101
    @shelby8101 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Moonsault Scramble looks too intense for me.

    • @GigaChaadam
      @GigaChaadam ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Moonsault Scramble is really good value!

    • @AMagicProduction
      @AMagicProduction ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Just looking at Moonsault Scramble makes me feel sick!

    • @johnfoltz8183
      @johnfoltz8183 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Are you sure you want to completely demolish Moonsault Scrambler?

    • @bamboo6893
      @bamboo6893 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      27%: I want to go on Moonsault Scramble!

    • @Sirrom0206
      @Sirrom0206 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@AMagicProduction You sound like a character from Roller Coaster Tycoon.

  • @kimberlystewart8980
    @kimberlystewart8980 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Grew up going to Cedar Point every summer and remember the absolute RAGE my rollercoaster fan brother and friends had over this height record. A hotly contested title. I wish I could have ridden this. I love features like that knot more than the height!

  • @off2geo
    @off2geo ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ...its like a coaster we built in Roller Coaster Tycoon when it came out lol

  • @patricatt9002
    @patricatt9002 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bro this coaster looks INSANE

  • @AngelofGrace96
    @AngelofGrace96 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What an insane coaster... Thanks for such a great video, that bit about 14 block zones made me cackle out loud

  • @brandoncufr201
    @brandoncufr201 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just did the math on the g force the loop the loop coaster would experience and it was approximately 8.9g before they lowered the release point.

  • @tony791999
    @tony791999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing video. I have never heard of these coasters. What fascinating and crazy designs these were. Thanks for putting this together.

  • @Th8rgoddess
    @Th8rgoddess ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A big reason why they probably went with 229 instead of 60 is marketing and psychology. 60 is a good number. But 229 is more appealing to humans. We generally like larger numbers better than small ones, alliteration is appealing and the hard "T" sound is a more attention getting/holding sound than the softer "S". It's these simple psychological tricks that would make it easier to grab people's attention in marketing and discussions about the coaster.

    • @da22a
      @da22a ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly my thoughts

    • @blazerlazer55
      @blazerlazer55 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what

    • @Th8rgoddess
      @Th8rgoddess 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@blazerlazer55 what do you find confusing about my comment?

    • @blazerlazer55
      @blazerlazer55 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Th8rgoddess ah, sorry, mainly the phonology stuff considering this coaster is in japan where 60 is "jūroku" and 229 "nisen nijū kyū", the high numbers thing doesn't sound wrong though

    • @Th8rgoddess
      @Th8rgoddess 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@blazerlazer55 I wasn't thinking about how the Japanese name would sound when I wrote this. So I get it.
      Though, strangely enough, people would prefer the "N" sound to the "J" because it's brighter.

  • @kevinbillington8121
    @kevinbillington8121 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really caught me off guard with that 14 block zones 😂

  • @Tomneom
    @Tomneom ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The cooler vekoma boomerang (Imagine Fuji Q gets Vekoma to remake it smoother)

  • @gingercakes3135
    @gingercakes3135 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This looks insane! I would have gave it a go. Great vid!

  • @Snoapyfluff
    @Snoapyfluff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved Magnum XL 200 it's my number 2 coaster at cedar point behind the original Top Thrill Dragster

  • @michaeltaylor1603
    @michaeltaylor1603 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the hardback version of GBWR. This coaster along w/ Magic Kingdom+ Celestial Suite (AstroWorld Hotel) my home town in Houston were featured in amusement park area of the book. I later become an ACE member in 1984 & worked @ defunct AstroWorld 1985-89. the photos + stats of this coaster WAS incredible. Only Schwarzkopf looping coaster (usually on the 2nd 3rd loops were capable of 6.5 Gs (graying the rider OUT)

  • @zacharymurdock6721
    @zacharymurdock6721 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like it how you threw “Project 305” in there when talking about g forces and modern coasters lol. Its in its own league. Im glad its at one of my two home parks lol. I cant wait to see what the do with “project 305”, and the updates/re-theming.

  • @noodle5283
    @noodle5283 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So not only do get subjected to 6 Gs going through the pretzel knot the first time, but you do it backwards. That just sounds like pain

  • @foxrose7420
    @foxrose7420 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could they have feasibly shortened the first drop and added a propulsion device on the second incline? Also are there any reports of people getting injured? Lol I imagine it had to have happened! Total craziness, very cool.

  • @ghostboywolfie460
    @ghostboywolfie460 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    needed this today thanks man!!!

  • @Silvermoonshadow
    @Silvermoonshadow 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There's a similar coaster now at the Carowinds park in NC. I believe it is called the Carolina Cobra.

  • @mkesrs1
    @mkesrs1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice coaster cover man!!! And I definitely learned something

  • @keithhuntington6387
    @keithhuntington6387 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these videos, and this one in particular has been one of my favorites thank you! May I make a suggestion for a potential future video: Eagle Fortress from Everland?

  • @AngeloGiles
    @AngeloGiles ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could've rode this, it doesn't even look natural to see an inversion that big lol, great video Ryan.

  • @masterwatermelonthemeparks
    @masterwatermelonthemeparks ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fuji-Q- Highland is like the Cedar Point of Japan

    • @derekp308
      @derekp308 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually Nagashima Spaland is more like Cedar Point. Fuji-Q Highlands is more like the Japanese Magic Mountain.

    • @masterwatermelonthemeparks
      @masterwatermelonthemeparks ปีที่แล้ว

      @@derekp308 -_-

    • @Irreve-rsible
      @Irreve-rsible ปีที่แล้ว

      @@derekp308 The only thing to me that Nagashima has over Fuji-Q Highland is Steel Dragon 5,000. Nearly all of Fuji's coasters are record breaking, or formerly were. The same as Cedar Point.

  • @jricedrums
    @jricedrums ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely stellar video!

  • @CHRYTICAL
    @CHRYTICAL ปีที่แล้ว

    HEY RYAN! MY NAMES ALSO RYAN
    Been watching your videos for years and it's so cool to see how far you've come from just kinex Rollercoasters. Love ya man, Your work is greatly appreciated. Keep it up :>

  • @myopnonmusic5525
    @myopnonmusic5525 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think they used feet instead of meters is for advertising, 229 feet sounds alot more impressive then 69 meters (nice)

  • @jimmaloney1121
    @jimmaloney1121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember having a Guinness Book of World Records from the mid-80s when I was growing up that had a picture of Moonsault Scramble and its listing as the tallest roller coaster. It looked weird nearly 40 years ago and it still looks weird today.

  • @casuallystalled
    @casuallystalled ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i was almost scared this wasn't an ElToroRyan video, because i didn't hear "block zones"

  • @jzckvsn
    @jzckvsn ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That inversion looks downright stupid 😂

  • @xXOpenYourHeart759Xx
    @xXOpenYourHeart759Xx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you really made me laugh out loud at the 14 block zone joke😆

  • @mikekleinhans1565
    @mikekleinhans1565 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your reviews Ryan. You call em like you feel them. Spent plenty of time on your coaster when 1st built. Franklin lakes represents! Best wooden coaster ever and will be again!😂

  • @sandraweilbrenner67
    @sandraweilbrenner67 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely beautiful view of Mt. Fuji

  • @MJAlford98
    @MJAlford98 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Worth noting that Tower of Terror was modified from 6Gs to 4Gs.

  • @TheRobobuck
    @TheRobobuck ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Roller Coaster 1 is too intense for me...

    • @johnfoltz8183
      @johnfoltz8183 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just looking at Roller Coaster 1 makes me feel sick!

  • @assemblyrequired7342
    @assemblyrequired7342 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Here's to hoping that some coaster company has the balls to try to make a Moonsault Scrambler successor, "legal laws" be damned.
    Technically, the human body could easily survive 6 g's (albeit that it might not necessarily LIKE it)! The only people who it would kill would be people who probably shouldn't be riding intense rides anyways.
    Part of the appeal of rides is pushing the limits of your body, like as a dare. The amount of force pressing the riders into their seat must've been outstanding. They probably couldn't even move their arms during the loops. And the Intimidator could use some competition. It's a shame that the Scrambler didn't have a long life span.

  • @randomstuff-qu7sh
    @randomstuff-qu7sh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never knew the concept of the euthanasia coaster existed. Considering that there are states in the US that still have the death penalty, maybe people should lobby for them to ditch the chemicals and go for a killer ride instead.

  • @appleboy007
    @appleboy007 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    El Toro Ryan,
    Excellent review of Moonsault Scramble ムーンサルトスクランブル. This BEAST of a roller coaster always fascinated me during my early years of roller coaster enthusiasm, from the intimidating look of the loading station (dark and foreboding) to its heights and sheer intensity. Sadly, legends like this are forever lost but not forgotten, thanks to people such as yourself. I, too, am a bit of a nerd and appreciate the level of engineering detail you provide to the coaster community in your addictive reviews and predictions. So keep the reviews coming, and know that you, and your work are greatly appreciated.
    P.S. What are your thoughts on why Six Flags Great Adventure seems so reluctant to completely retract El Toro like Heide Park did to Colossus? Especially considering the two most recent accidents in 2021 (Partial derailment caused by the rear “up-stop” wheel) and in 2022 (The loud bang and jolting of an El Toro train during operation)?

  • @committingasyn
    @committingasyn ปีที่แล้ว +9

    ASTM: We have rules!
    Moonsault Scramble: Nah

  • @robwarner9371
    @robwarner9371 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting video - thanks! Out of interest, do you have a graph (or a link to a graph) of the recommended negative-g/duration for amusement rides? There are a few modern flat rides that I’m pretty sure fall under the same “illegality” of Moonsault Scramble due to excessive and sustained negative-g forces.

  • @nickma71
    @nickma71 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Turning back the clock...I had a hard book copy of the infamous Guiness Book of World Records. This was somewhere around 1990-1991. In it was the Moon Assault Scramble. They had a black and white picture and said it was 260 feet tall. I don't know if that was a literal typo, translation issue, or I just didn't remember. Making my beloved hometown Cedar Point claim for Magnum XL200 not quite true. Meaning tallest and fastest. However, Magnum was easily the best ride I had ever been on. And frankly it is still one of the best.

  • @ttam23ps3
    @ttam23ps3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Visually it looked absolutely great

  • @capnkraken
    @capnkraken ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would've loved to ride this to be honest...

  • @Alan_Smith
    @Alan_Smith ปีที่แล้ว +2

    14 Block zones. Moonsault Scramble Mountain I see!!!
    Dispatches every 5 minutes, Ghostrider-"Hold my beer"!!!!

  • @TheWASHINGMACHINEBOY
    @TheWASHINGMACHINEBOY 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this video taught me that a vertical loop size must be proportional to the speed of the train going down the drop; if it is much smaller than the drop, the G forces exerted on riders will be very high but not cause any pain. likewise, if it is too big then the train will fail to make it through the loop

  • @rollercoasterheaven2170
    @rollercoasterheaven2170 ปีที่แล้ว

    No matter how much I watch videos of this coaster it still surprises me that the Pretzel Knot is not sped up