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@@CalumRaasayKiwi engineering be mad. I'm reminded of Peter Beck. And Rutherford. And... Perhaps a product of being in the middle of nowhere and having to do things oneself.
When Agatha Christie and her husband were carrying out archaeology digs in Iraq in the 1930s, they took these buses to Baghdad. In fact she set some of her murder mysteries on these Nairn buses, a version of locked room mysteries.
At primary school in NZ in the early 1950s our class was told of the Kiwis who had been running a transport service between Damascus and Baghdad since the 1920s. Our class teacher had spent a large part of WW2 in the Middle East and at some time was in Syria and/or Iraq. He seemed to think nothing of the fact that people from this end of the world had so well transplanted to such a different environment. Until seeing the caption for this posting I hadn't thought of the Nairn brothers in most of the last 70 years.
Thank you for your reply. It will always amaze me the stories from people and the crazy stuff that goes on in the world, that you would probably never thought or even dreamed would happened !! God bless
My Granddad's name is Nairn and we're from New Zealand. Asked if there was any family connection. Turns out I'm a distant relation to the Nairn Brothers. Would have never known if I hadn't watched your video. Thankyou so much!
Good job Brendon! Small detail: The 3D CAD model has tractor rear fender images that are too long as evidenced in photos of pamphlet, drawing and newspaper or magazine in 9:00, 9:55, 12:03 and 14:45.
3D model is all great but there is least one major flaw in that render and 3D model of yours, the trailer is basically glued onto the rear wheel bumpers with that said there would be zero turning radius for the attached trailer and with that the whole vehicle would need some crazy space and wear while turning with only the front wheels which back then didnt had a big of a turning radius also whoever made that have the same mentality and lack in vision issue like the LEGO designers, 99% of LEGO cars basically have no turning radius space or even suggestions whatsoever, they all look like they are fixed to just go forward all the time ... even trains magically have huge turning radius, while cars dont ... why people make these mistakes is all beyond me, "engineers, designers" ... yeah whoever gave them the diploma, jobs etc need to be fired
I saw two buses, refered to as "Nairn" buses waiting for passengers in Baghdad in November, 1975. The buses then were still built on semi trailers, but pulled by cab-over type tractor units.
Aspen Ski Corp. had two like these in the early 1960s.. only got one ride although, Buttermilk to town one day.. They had glass in the front so one could see out over the tractor cab.
I first read about these buses in the book by Tim Slessor 'First Overland' london to singapore by landrover, in mid 1950s, very interesting as they travelled a similar route to Bagdad, albiet somewhat slower!! Been fascinated by the idea ever since.
Tractor-trailers being used as an “articulated bus” is a concept that wound up being fairly popular a few different places in the world. If you were in a country where a rail network was difficult and airports are few and far between it really does make sense. Here in the USA big cities kind of prohibited them being a “thing” vs our standard rear-engined straight chassis busses, a design pioneered by GM Coach division back in the 30’s.
Another fascinating and well presented story. I nearly spit out my coffee when you said the air-conditioning cooled the bus to 90° Fahrenheit (32°C), but on second thought, dropping the temperature from 110°F by twenty degrees is pretty impressive.
It’s definitely a huge difference in terms of human comfort and survival. 90* without direct sunlight on you isn’t exactly fantastic but you can still move around and do stuff. 110* your only focus is cooling off
I would saythe bus was cooled down way more than by 20 degrees, considering the inside temperature of a metal/glass "box" under the desert sun, all day long.
Your enthusiasm, meticulous and dogged research and Brendan’s modelling make your videos just beat anything I might want to watch on TV - thanks for the great entertainment!
I was very pleased to view this video. Many years ago I was given a copy of Tullett's book 'Nairn Bus to Baghdad' and I was fascinated by the brothers' meticulous attention to detail, to the point of being finnicky! The tyres of the day lasted only a couple of return trips before failing due to heat. The Firestone company was the only one responding to the Nairns' request to all tyre companies for a solution to the heat problem, which Firestone soon solved but with the proviso that their product would be the only one used by the brothers. Firestone was given space in the workshop to continue with R&D, their tyres by this time lasting for 12000 miles in desert conditions. Oil filtration - lubricating engine oils of the day were far less sophisticated than the modern product. The brothers installed a large fullers earth filtration device in their workshop, through which the oil was passed after maybe two return trips. Thus, the engines were, at all times, running with virtually new oil. Passenger comfort? Luxurious. Driver comfort? No comforts as air con was for the trailer only! The drivers had a bloody awful job in sweltering heat compounded by the close and noisy proximity of the engines! They were paid very well for a reason! Air conditioning - the Karrier company developed a "portable" system for the Nairns, the first iteration being located on the roof of the cab, powered by a Wisconsin petrol engine. This successful development made the Karrier company rich as soon as other road and rail companies cottoned on to the idea. The Nairns and their remarkable story remain virtually forgotten in NZ, whereas Richard Pearce, Earnest Rutherford and Apirana Ngata are national icons. Col, Bay of Islands
Running the bus line in the early 30s would make a great historic video game. I also may use this as inspiration for a short run DnD game. Like Murder on the Orient Express, but a desert bus run.
Merchant of the skies might scratch some of that itch for you. Pretty different overall with airships and a kind of whimsical attitude. But with a focus on exploration and logistics with a kind-of desert vibe.
I was born in Iraq back in 1954, Wow, thanks for bringing back those beautiful memories. I remember those beauties in Baghdad including the name Narin Company, it was popular till early 60's 🙏
I saw such buses twice while hitchhiking across the Sahara in southern Algeria in 1978. The passenger coach part had extra suspension where it was mounted to the semi-trailer. It was huge and fast.
I traveled by these buses in 1972 with my mom from Baghdad to Damascus round trip ..it was comfortable and air conditioned and has a toilet by the end of the trailer we lfet baghdad by 3 pm and arrived damascus by 7 am , woow you refreshed my memory ....Thanks a lot
Never heard of these marvelous vehicles nor the Nairn service. The early technology is beyond impressive. A million miles through the desert at modern highway speeds, in air conditioned comfort, before WWII. I had no idea it had been possible, let alone done so stylishly. The Marmon tractors were beautiful.
I keep being impressed with the ingenuity of the people from New Zealand. I'm not a Kiwi, I live across the ditch. New Zealanders are so well traveled, and are such great problem solvers.
I love all these amazing vehicle videos (I count the rescue buoy in the same genre), they're my favourite thing you do on this channel. Seeing living spaces on vehicles just brings me a kind of simple joy and childlike wonder.
You said they got that off road journey down to 15 hours. I just consulted Google Maps and it's now 8:14 on paved highways. They were doing quite well for 75+ years ago!
That 3d model is so good that for the interior shots I actually thought that the bus had made it to preservation. Kudos for displaying this engineering feat for us to see and learn of.
Thanks for watching! I’m not good mechanic, but I’m always blown away by how they kept these vehicles running smoothly considering the technology and conditions. Incredible
This era in human exploration, I'm drawn to it. It's like...when you're waiting in line at the Indiana Jones ride at Disneyland and I always thought, it must have been some time to be an explorer. Old ways meshing with the motorized world...We don't have that these days. What an era!
Damn, I traveled in nairn,نيرن ، in one of those in 1964, Baghdad to Damascus, no roads in the desert, dead reckoning navigation. I was 13 years old then. ابو وائل الزوبعي
@@Game_Hero No AC, we left late noon time and traveled all night. I think there was one stop just before sunrise, possibly in Rutba, روطبا، a boarder town.
Hats off Calum, you just made my day. Nothing like a 1930s desert adventure. Thank you for this extensive research, the result is outstanding. Driving my 1975 Toyota Landcruiser with only 3 speeds through the deserts of Egypt makes me wish I was a driver for the Nairn company back then. I wonder if their routes ever reached Alexandria or Cairo. Truly the golden years of travel.
My dad was based in Palestine just after WW2 in the RAF and said he went to Baghdad a few times. He was on a transport squadron so it's most likely he flew in one of his squadron's aircraft but there's a remote chance be travelled in a Nairn bus when they were operated by the RAF.
I don’t think some people understand what they mean by HOW GOOD a good afghan mechanic is.. the man will literally melt scrap metal into a new piston for you in like 3 hours.
The ingenious approach rural communities (or communities without easy access to parts and Infrastructure) have towards mechanics is always amazing. Same with large parts of rural Africa.
We traveled in the 60's by road between Kuwait and Beirut. As kids we always marvelled at the sight of these huge buses , actually envying the passengers who could stretch and sleep during their travel.
"small?" It was very famous back then. All of my grandparents rode one at least once in their lifetime. There is an Iraqi proverb named after the bus. It is culturally significant, because so many people have used the service to finally reach Mecca and do their holy rituals. For Muslims, it's necessary they do it at least once in their lifetime and old people couldn't really travel for long distance.
As a Kiwi from the south island, I found this very interesting, and I have never before heard of these guys. Your videos are great, and I appreciate the time and effort that you put into them.
Being originally from UK, I was aware of Nairn Buses in the mid 50’s. Subsequently I emigrated to NZ in 1963, and have seen several references to the service over this time. Picton, South Island, NZ.
18:38 "...at a comfortable 90 degrees Fahrenheit." I was about to suggest that you should have stuck to Celsius to avoid confusion but then you're from Scotland so the upper end of the thermometer is likely terra incognita for you whatever the scale.
@@hoilst265 And yet that IS the measurement scale used AT THE TIME. By the BRITISH, so entirely appropriate in thus video. Definitely Imperial, it was a time of Empire FFS. They would NOT have advertised the cabin temp as "32 Celsius".
I think Rex's Hanger did a great job explaining this, he always uses the units used at the time the vehicle was built with conversions added in post, as this makes the data make more sense compared to other vehicles of the time.
Great video! 16:51 - The travel memoir "Blind White Fish in Persia" by Anthony Smith (1953) talks about the Nairn bus service rather poetically: "Only the Nairn bus disturbed our sleep, a creation of noise and light which came from the west and disappeared in the east. Its thundering form passed quite close to us as it drove through the night, over the uneven earth of the desert, over the land where there was no road; it went like a ghostly being, impervious to the land upon which it rode, disdainful of the irregularities, regardless of everything save its destination; and to that place it roared, relentlessly and powerfully, until the daylight came once more and made it lose its wilder aspect. Then it would assume the humbler form of a bus and find its way into the town of Baghdad..."
I have known about the Nairn buses since childhood. There are some photos in the book First Overland, The Oxford and Cambridge Far Eastern Expedition of 1955. I see you have included one of their photos, complete with their Land Rovers. In the eighties I met a gent that had used the bus during the Fifties. He told me he travelled from Baghdad via Beirut, then on to the UK to see his girlfriend in Brighton! he did this 4 times per year, before settling in the UK.
Here I’m thinking, what if Calum uploaded a new video, it’s been long enough right. No new video 😢 Half an hour later, this glorious treat; huge overland vehicle. IM DELIGHTED!
@@CalumRaasay Another well researched video. Very much enjoyed that! My guess is, one of the coaches is used as a shed for goats, somewhere I. The Middle East. 🙂
24:17 Love that wink on Shaikh's face ;) Seriously tho, Great video and hopefully I might visit that road as I kinda live near it in Saudi Arabia. Who knows, maybe one day I'll also come by these buses if they're not already Chop Shopped :P
That render is absolutely gorgeous it's better than anything I've seen on TV for a history program. It takes a lot of understanding of what you are looking at to get it right and I think for the most part it succeeds which is amazing with how little reference there is.
At 17:47 there’s a photo of two land rovers which look very similar to the ones driven by some British guys who did the first overland from London to Singapore, they talk about the buses in there book “First Overland”
Hi, I remember those buses running between Damascus & Baghdad. That was in 55 - 56 when I was living in Damascus. The terminal in Damasus was in city center.
This is just an amazing story. 25:22 Just pause and feast your eyes. I love machines that are bespoke designs to tackle challenging tasks. The Nairns really made it happen. Anticipate the problems and outfit for every tendency. And still you needed tough men to make it work.
I'll be dammed, the War Rig in the flesh! Incredible innovation in little slices of times past, thanks for helping preserve this history! Fantastic modelling too, that's a big ask with so little source material
Fascinating piece of history, and as someone who has driven on the "modern" roads that are this route today, I'm extremely impressed by these vehicles and the people who drove, built and maintained them.
There's a saying in the US. "Budd don't break." Budd vehicles are LEGENDARY for their structural durability. Also, the luxury of the buses was entirely matched by the aforementioned Pioneer Zephyr, and its brethren and successors.
@@CalumRaasay The Pioneer Zephyr herself is in a museum in Chicago, well preserved. Unfortunately, her display hall is underground, which rather prevents her from ever running again. Her twin, the Flying Yankee, is in New Hampshire, struggling through her own restoration, hopefully to the point of operationality. I happened to see her up close in Lincoln, NH before she was moved to North Conway. If you want to experience a ride, there is a close relative in the form of the Nebraska Zephyr (formerly the Twin Zephyr) at the Illinois Railway Museum, which is not too far from Chicago. She doesn't run every day, but if you let the museum know that you are coming and working on a documentary, they might be able to work with you. It's arguably the closest possible experience to the LNER's Coronation-both were pretty much national flagships at roughly the same time.
Here in Canada there are still Budd train coaches from 1947-1951 running 150 km/h Intercity services on Canada's busiest intercity rail routes in 2024. Their replacements are now entering service so they should be withdrawn from intercity service within a year, though they will remain on long-distance sleeper services for another decade by which time they will have been running in regular service for 90 years
@CalumRaasay Yes! There were multiple Zephyr Train sets built For the Chicago Burlington and Quincy Railroad starting In the 1930's. The Nebraska Zephyr is still being run at Illinois Railway Museum . There was a rumor that a Saudi Prince had purchased one of these Stainless Steel Train sets. That has always intrigued me in an Indiana Jones adventurous way.
I wonder whether the RAF actually bought it. It seems more likely they just contracted Nairn and their employees to carry on running the service and paint RAF on the sides.
@@caw25shapossibly, though the book specifically said sold and stated a price. What’s more after the war the bus was run by a rival firm, implying it was bought off the RAF
The Land Rover seen at 17:50 is one of two from the "First overland" journey in 1954/5, in fact I think it's "Oxford" which I was lucky enough to drive a few years ago. Their journey is a fascinating story.
That book looks awesome. I remember picking up my 1990 Miata and checking to make sure everything was there. The Owners Manual Case says "The Mazda Way" and I always thought that was such a cool touch.
I love the "a comfortable 90° farenhight". Alot of A/C babies will goof on this.....when I was stationed in the Mohavi desert in the 1980's, we did tank gunnery in 125+ degrees in July. When I went to bed,waiting to go down range, I litterly froze my butt off in an extream cold weather sleeping bag. I asked one of the medics what the temp was. He said 90. Here is where I learned a 30° temp change is a 30° temp change. Think about it.
Tell me about it, I've lived in Asia for 10+ years and recently went back to the nordics, even at local tshirt and ice cream weather I was freezing my ass off.
This was well done! From the animation, to the information, to the narration, I could tell that a lot of effort went into this and that you did a bang up job on the research. I was amazed at the level of detail in the animation. I was captivated throughout the entire video.
Calum, I really enjoy the straight to camera bit at the ends of your videos. It gives a real sense of connection, and shows the passion you've put into hunting all of this information down. I also appreciate all of the acknowledgements given here, instead of relegating them to a credits roll.
Having flown back and forth from Aman Jordan to Kuwait, all I can say is you’d be hard pressed to find a more lifeless desolate stretch of land anywhere on Earth. It is literally hundreds of thousands of square kilometers of gravel parking lot. What a crazy place to run a bus route.
I dont think ive heard of this before and im a kiwi, so glad i came across this video and decided to watch it! Great video by the way and thank you for bringing this to my attention sir. Excellent stuff!
Believe it or not, in Iraq (atleast in the past as my grandmother was from there), Nairn was the word used for bus. Imagine being so iconic that your company overshadows the actual name of a product!
Actually, in Iraq, iconic brands tend to take over the name of whatever product they represent. For example, in Iraq we use: Tide for anything that is clothes detergent Kleenex for Tissues (regardless the brand) Tang for orange juice (some places) Vimto for fruit juice and the most interesting three of all Samoon for bread, named after the Armenian baker (Simon/Simone) Temmen (Based off the brand 10 Men) for rice. Estican (named after British mockery word "East Tea Can") for tea cup (the traditional one).
This needs to play a HUGE role in the next Indiana Jones film!!!!! It's such a great backdrop for sooooo many different scenes in an Indiana Jones film! It's even in the era of pre-war NSDAP. I can EASILY PICTURE Indy stuck in the middle of a bunch of Nazi SS, crossing the desert, aboard the Nairn Trans, loaded with stuff stolen by the NSDAP!!
Imagine the kind of stories those former employees could tell. The mechanics having to keep the fleet alive in a harsh land, the drivers running them across the desert and everyone in between. Must have been a wild time. So when can we expect that model to be imported into Snowrunner?
The best thing about this channel is that I never know what I'm going to learn! Thank you Calum for sharing something you are so passionate about and thank you Brendon for your AMAZING 3D work... I'm gobsmacked!
Another fascinating subject, makes me want to build a model of that enormous off-road bus. Also love those old magazines, must be a blast to browse thought them, fantastic artwork. Thanks Calum, great content!
Yep, bust out a bottle of wine, whisky, tequila or what ever your poison, sit back for half an hour and enjoy a documentary with better production values than the History channel!
The amount of work put into this video with just your introductory is massively impressive! The 3D rendering of the truck is top tier and attention keeping.
Great episode mate! Here’s a thought; Arabic and Persian language Social Media. I’m willing to bet at least one of those vehicles remain somewhere. Those old trucks and trailers don’t really ever die, they just cease functioning. But absent rain, dry climate, no rust, in a society not known for recycling? Why would they die or cease to exist? Anybody fluent in Arabic and Persian in your network? Just a thought. Have a great day Callum!
Funnily enough I did a few searched in Arabic and Persian to see what I could find online. A few photos (including that one of the pullman very late on, possibly the last photo of it) but not much else. I'll maybe have to see if I can find a researcher over there!
This is an incredible story! I'm an absolute sucker for old school machines, and I agree that the pictures and photographs make it look sooo Mad Max!! I cannot think how much of research has gone into this video, brilliant job! The story of the company almost closing down and a Sheikh then using it to smuggle his gold across the desert really is amazing! Thanks for making this video!
Imagining what it must've been like to be a passenger, it reminded me of a similar bus service that still operates today. Rotel Tours "rolling hotel", where the rear section of the bus (or a trailer) is three levels of berths for passengers sleep when stopped for the night. The company is based in Germany but they ship the buses all over the world for tours all over. I've seen 2 or 3 of them myself here in Canada. A German-registered European-made custom triple decker coach/hotel certainly stands out in B.C. or Alberta.
Saw your visit to Alaska and the airbase and now this.. So entertaining and interesting to listen to somebody talk about things he truly fascinated by.. Extremely well presented and hard to not get caught up in your passion your excitement about these amazing vehicles. ... greetings from Australia..
In Tim Slesser’s book “First Overland”, about the 1955 London to Singapore Land Rover expedition, as well as the companion BBC film documentary, these busses are shown. The picture you showed of the bus next to the Land Rover is from this expedition. Incidentally that Land Rover ( the dark blue one) still exists. The BBC film also shows footage of the shops where they were constructed and maintained. By this time period ( mid 1950s) it appears they had built a modest fleet of busses comprising of both the straight frame and tractor trailer variety. You mentioned you wondered if any of the busses might still exist somewhere in some forgotten state. Interesting coincidence; I discovered one of the Burlington Zephyr trains you pictured, sitting on pallets in a scenic mountain railroad train yard, just two weeks ago, in Northern New Hampshire, ( USA) It is apparently being restored. Excellent research. Well done!👌
@@CalumRaasay That London to Singapore expedition was partly sponsored by the BBC. David Attenborough gave them a ton of film and it became a multi part documentary shown on British television, some of which is on TH-cam. Cheers.
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PS: Big news! We're planning on going to ALASKA this coming month (June) to track down the last two LeTourneau Overland trains! Would that be something you guys want to see?
Hell yeah but be careful of mosquitoes
heck yeah .. the overland trains were what got me interested in this channel
Now THAT is a silly question.
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Oh heck yes. June is the best time to visit Fairbanks!
Absolutely - yes please !
It's nice to see a big cool vehicle that was actually successful for once.
I know right? And incredibly successful too. Real testament to the engineers who kept them running!
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@@CalumRaasayKiwi engineering be mad. I'm reminded of Peter Beck. And Rutherford. And... Perhaps a product of being in the middle of nowhere and having to do things oneself.
When Agatha Christie and her husband were carrying out archaeology digs in Iraq in the 1930s, they took these buses to Baghdad. In fact she set some of her murder mysteries on these Nairn buses, a version of locked room mysteries.
@@johnharper257she did indeed! Never read it though
At primary school in NZ in the early 1950s our class was told of the Kiwis who had been running a transport service between Damascus and Baghdad since the 1920s. Our class teacher had spent a large part of WW2 in the Middle East and at some time was in Syria and/or Iraq. He seemed to think nothing of the fact that people from this end of the world had so well transplanted to such a different environment. Until seeing the caption for this posting I hadn't thought of the Nairn brothers in most of the last 70 years.
Wow! Glad to have reminded you, and what a nice anecdote. Had a few comments from kiwis who had never heard of the brothers!
Thank you for your reply. It will always amaze me the stories from people and the crazy stuff that goes on in the world, that you would probably never thought or even dreamed would happened !! God bless
I'm obsessed with giant overland vehicle concepts. Practicality be damned.
I think Calum is the same way hahaha
Absolutely!
Its not that impractical
yeah this one makes perfect sense for a niche transport company, tracklaying for a proper train would have been far too expensive
Same, don't worry
My Granddad's name is Nairn and we're from New Zealand. Asked if there was any family connection. Turns out I'm a distant relation to the Nairn Brothers. Would have never known if I hadn't watched your video. Thankyou so much!
Wow! What a connection. Gerald certainly moved home after he retired, I believe they were from Blenheim
Still as cuz, chur that’s sick… how cool is that asking your folks and finding that out!
It's too bad stories aren't passed down through generations anymore
Sure bud 🤡
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Yes, the 3D model was indeed incredibly well done, it looked real and very immersive.
Brendon’s skills blow my mind - his work on Diablo III is incredibly impressive!
Good job Brendon!
Small detail:
The 3D CAD model has tractor rear fender images that are too long as evidenced in photos of pamphlet, drawing and newspaper or magazine in 9:00, 9:55, 12:03 and 14:45.
@@CalumRaasay Still amazing, but you can see the tread is flipped and not mirrored, so the direction is flipped at 10:52 for example.
3D model is all great but there is least one major flaw in that render and 3D model of yours, the trailer is basically glued onto the rear wheel bumpers with that said there would be zero turning radius for the attached trailer and with that the whole vehicle would need some crazy space and wear while turning with only the front wheels which back then didnt had a big of a turning radius also
whoever made that have the same mentality and lack in vision issue like the LEGO designers, 99% of LEGO cars basically have no turning radius space or even suggestions whatsoever, they all look like they are fixed to just go forward all the time ... even trains magically have huge turning radius, while cars dont ...
why people make these mistakes is all beyond me, "engineers, designers" ... yeah whoever gave them the diploma, jobs etc need to be fired
I saw two buses, refered to as "Nairn" buses waiting for passengers in Baghdad in November, 1975. The buses then were still built on semi trailers, but pulled by cab-over type tractor units.
Yes by the end I think they had a range of different cans and trucks that they swapped to
Aspen Ski Corp. had two like these in the early 1960s.. only got one ride although, Buttermilk to town one day.. They had glass in the front so one could see out over the tractor cab.
I first read about these buses in the book by Tim Slessor 'First Overland' london to singapore by landrover, in mid 1950s, very interesting as they travelled a similar route to Bagdad, albiet somewhat slower!! Been fascinated by the idea ever since.
Very interesting, I have seen service like this. Thank you for sharing.
Tractor-trailers being used as an “articulated bus” is a concept that wound up being fairly popular a few different places in the world. If you were in a country where a rail network was difficult and airports are few and far between it really does make sense. Here in the USA big cities kind of prohibited them being a “thing” vs our standard rear-engined straight chassis busses, a design pioneered by GM Coach division back in the 30’s.
"The heat in the summer runs up to 110 in the shade... and there is no shade." I like that guy
*NINETY-SIX DEGREES IN THE SHAAAEEAAADE!*
@@InventorZahranyou have no idea how happy i was to see someone making this reference after i heard that in the vid
the real war rig 🎉🎉🎉
Another fascinating and well presented story. I nearly spit out my coffee when you said the air-conditioning cooled the bus to 90° Fahrenheit (32°C), but on second thought, dropping the temperature from 110°F by twenty degrees is pretty impressive.
It’s definitely a huge difference in terms of human comfort and survival. 90* without direct sunlight on you isn’t exactly fantastic but you can still move around and do stuff. 110* your only focus is cooling off
Especially when you are still expected to wear a suit and tie.
@@ColoradoStreaming F their expectations! 🤣
90 degree is too damned sweltering Hot and cause heat stroke.
I would saythe bus was cooled down way more than by 20 degrees, considering the inside temperature of a metal/glass "box" under the desert sun, all day long.
Your enthusiasm, meticulous and dogged research and Brendan’s modelling make your videos just beat anything I might want to watch on TV - thanks for the great entertainment!
Wow, thanks! This was a fun one, though tracking down the materials was tough. One book alone was 120 quid! 😳
I'm super curious if the British Library would have those rarest of books since they collect just about everything. Amazing video!
I agree 1000%
I was very pleased to view this video. Many years ago I was given a copy of Tullett's book 'Nairn Bus to Baghdad' and I was fascinated by the brothers' meticulous attention to detail, to the point of being finnicky!
The tyres of the day lasted only a couple of return trips before failing due to heat. The Firestone company was the only one responding to the Nairns' request to all tyre companies for a solution to the heat problem, which Firestone soon solved but with the proviso that their product would be the only one used by the brothers. Firestone was given space in the workshop to continue with R&D, their tyres by this time lasting for 12000 miles in desert conditions.
Oil filtration - lubricating engine oils of the day were far less sophisticated than the modern product. The brothers installed a large fullers earth filtration device in their workshop, through which the oil was passed after maybe two return trips. Thus, the engines were, at all times, running with virtually new oil.
Passenger comfort? Luxurious.
Driver comfort? No comforts as air con was for the trailer only! The drivers had a bloody awful job in sweltering heat compounded by the close and noisy proximity of the engines! They were paid very well for a reason!
Air conditioning - the Karrier company developed a "portable" system for the Nairns, the first iteration being located on the roof of the cab, powered by a Wisconsin petrol engine. This successful development made the Karrier company rich as soon as other road and rail companies cottoned on to the idea.
The Nairns and their remarkable story remain virtually forgotten in NZ, whereas Richard Pearce, Earnest Rutherford and Apirana Ngata are national icons. Col, Bay of Islands
Running the bus line in the early 30s would make a great historic video game. I also may use this as inspiration for a short run DnD game. Like Murder on the Orient Express, but a desert bus run.
OMG I loved murder on the orient express a great movie!
There literally is already a desert bus game called, well desert bus.
At least we found the original desert bus.
Merchant of the skies might scratch some of that itch for you. Pretty different overall with airships and a kind of whimsical attitude. But with a focus on exploration and logistics with a kind-of desert vibe.
@@howichangeyoutubehandle thanks!
or, if i may suggest, do a mid-run DnD campaign the likes of "Snowpiercer" (egregiously large train but with multiple biomes/zones within)
I was born in Iraq back in 1954, Wow, thanks for bringing back those beautiful memories. I remember those beauties in Baghdad including the name Narin Company, it was popular till early 60's 🙏
I saw such buses twice while hitchhiking across the Sahara in southern Algeria in 1978. The passenger coach part had extra suspension where it was mounted to the semi-trailer. It was huge and fast.
Incredible!
The last words: That’s what she said.
While @@josels1292 was in the wardrobe sneaking a peek 😉🤔😂
Hitchhiking thru the Sahara wow
You saw all of that while walking and this monstrosity was passing at 60+ mph... yeah, OooKay!
I traveled by these buses in 1972 with my mom from Baghdad to Damascus round trip ..it was comfortable and air conditioned and has a toilet by the end of the trailer we lfet baghdad by 3 pm and arrived damascus by 7 am , woow you refreshed my memory ....Thanks a lot
Never heard of these marvelous vehicles nor the Nairn service. The early technology is beyond impressive. A million miles through the desert at modern highway speeds, in air conditioned comfort, before WWII. I had no idea it had been possible, let alone done so stylishly. The Marmon tractors were beautiful.
I keep being impressed with the ingenuity of the people from New Zealand. I'm not a Kiwi, I live across the ditch. New Zealanders are so well traveled, and are such great problem solvers.
I love all these amazing vehicle videos (I count the rescue buoy in the same genre), they're my favourite thing you do on this channel. Seeing living spaces on vehicles just brings me a kind of simple joy and childlike wonder.
If there's one thing that links all the videos on my channel it seems to be: imagine [insert object] had a toilet in it
Calum: for big kids who never got tired of looking at cutaway books.
You said they got that off road journey down to 15 hours. I just consulted Google Maps and it's now 8:14 on paved highways. They were doing quite well for 75+ years ago!
I died a little when you said 'a comfortable 90 degrees Fahrenheit'. If it's above 80 here, I become a puddle.
I'm from Scotland, anything about fridge temperatures and I get too hot!
I was shocked this was the temperature WITH air conditioning! I guess it's better than "110 in the shade.. And there is no shade"!
I assume the people who lived and worked in the region were used to that as a comfortable temperature.
Yes. What really matters is you are below 98.6 body temperature. Also would be dry.
@@pgnandt I was thinking the same. It would be dry at least. Hadn't thought about below body temps but that a plus lol.
That 3d model is so good that for the interior shots I actually thought that the bus had made it to preservation. Kudos for displaying this engineering feat for us to see and learn of.
Never heard of the Nairn brothers. I didn't expect a Kiwi connection in this one!
From Blenheim as well if I remember right!
@@CalumRaasayArizonan here, I can imagine myself that there’d be saguaro and Arizonan geology theming on the bus’ wallpaper.
Been a Heavy Truck Mechanic for over 40 years and i really enjoyed your video. Thanks from Macon Georgia!
Thanks for watching! I’m not good mechanic, but I’m always blown away by how they kept these vehicles running smoothly considering the technology and conditions. Incredible
Thunderbirds meets Mad Max, but its real. Nice work Calum.
I have no idea why you do this (I mean in such detail), but I'm so glad you do.
Man this would have made a GREAT thunderbirds episode
@@CalumRaasay One of the Thunderbirds episodes showed a B-Triple truck parked beside a runway. That is one cab over prime mover towing three trailers.
the real war rig
This era in human exploration, I'm drawn to it. It's like...when you're waiting in line at the Indiana Jones ride at Disneyland and I always thought, it must have been some time to be an explorer. Old ways meshing with the motorized world...We don't have that these days. What an era!
Same with the Victorian era. There are so many crazy stories of mercenaries and explorers from that time.
You can't help but love the mystery and danger of it.
The reall Indy Jones is ElOns Grand Father. Had plane flew around spelunking caves for Gems.
@@peterparker9286a lot more aphartied than I remember in temple of doom
Damn, I traveled in nairn,نيرن ، in one of those in 1964, Baghdad to Damascus, no roads in the desert, dead reckoning navigation. I was 13 years old then. ابو وائل الزوبعي
must have been something
@@Game_Hero No AC, we left late noon time and traveled all night. I think there was one stop just before sunrise, possibly in Rutba, روطبا، a boarder town.
C90Adventure and then Calum posts a video? What a day 😅
True that!
C90 posted today!? Right on!
We have similar tastes my friend 😂
you referencing C90A immediately made me subscribe.
Three men taking turns driving and sleeping to assure nonstop service. Just awesome 👏🏼
Yeah but where did they poop?
😩😩😩😩😩
Three MEN?!? How can you assume they identify as men?!? 😆
I remember finding the book, "Nairn Bus to Bagdad" in our town library, in the 80s. Might still be there.
Worth a read!
The desert driving shots have a real Gerry Anderson vibe, another great doc. Cheers Calum.
As a 3d artist making the model of the bus so accurately from so few photos especially on a TH-cam channel timeline is incredibly impressive.
Hats off Calum, you just made my day. Nothing like a 1930s desert adventure. Thank you for this extensive research, the result is outstanding. Driving my 1975 Toyota Landcruiser with only 3 speeds through the deserts of Egypt makes me wish I was a driver for the Nairn company back then. I wonder if their routes ever reached Alexandria or Cairo. Truly the golden years of travel.
My dad was based in Palestine just after WW2 in the RAF and said he went to Baghdad a few times. He was on a transport squadron so it's most likely he flew in one of his squadron's aircraft but there's a remote chance be travelled in a Nairn bus when they were operated by the RAF.
I don’t think some people understand what they mean by HOW GOOD a good afghan mechanic is.. the man will literally melt scrap metal into a new piston for you in like 3 hours.
Sounds fanciful. Nobody is doing that from a mobile rig in 3hrs. Machining alone will take a day
But yeah, innovation when nothings exists. Yes
They make shit out of crap, with poor process and treatment.
@@restfulplace3273 yes exactly :)
The ingenious approach rural communities (or communities without easy access to parts and Infrastructure) have towards mechanics is always amazing. Same with large parts of rural Africa.
I have been to the Middle East and have witnessed firsthand how these people can produce parts not available there!
This is such a wonderful story. I have heard of the Nairns before as I live in NZ, but you have told the story so well. Thank you.
We traveled in the 60's by road between Kuwait and Beirut. As kids we always marvelled at the sight of these huge buses , actually envying the passengers who could stretch and sleep during their travel.
Never even heard of this. Love when I learn these small projects and ventures….
This is one of those rare moments where I get to be smug that I got there first haha
"small?" It was very famous back then. All of my grandparents rode one at least once in their lifetime. There is an Iraqi proverb named after the bus. It is culturally significant, because so many people have used the service to finally reach Mecca and do their holy rituals. For Muslims, it's necessary they do it at least once in their lifetime and old people couldn't really travel for long distance.
Absolutely great research and fascinating story. Not only about the technic but also about the people behind. I love it. More of this please.
This is one of my favourite channels on TH-cam. Always interesting topics that are rarely covered by other channels, and never in as much detail.
Wow, thank you!
What a machine The people that maintained it and ran it and operated and built it amazing
As a Kiwi from the south island, I found this very interesting, and I have never before heard of these guys. Your videos are great, and I appreciate the time and effort that you put into them.
IIRC they were from Blenheim. They actually ran a motorcycle shop & dealership before moving to the Middle East.
Scotland South East....spend a lot time in both ends of the globe :)
Being originally from UK, I was aware of Nairn Buses in the mid 50’s. Subsequently I emigrated to NZ in 1963, and have seen several references to the service over this time.
Picton, South Island, NZ.
18:38 "...at a comfortable 90 degrees Fahrenheit." I was about to suggest that you should have stuck to Celsius to avoid confusion but then you're from Scotland so the upper end of the thermometer is likely terra incognita for you whatever the scale.
90F would be fairly comfortable if the outside temperature was 110F I guess
American cultural hegemony at its finest: TH-cam ranks you down if you don't use Imperial - sorry, "American" - measurements.
@@hoilst265 And yet that IS the measurement scale used AT THE TIME. By the BRITISH, so entirely appropriate in thus video. Definitely Imperial, it was a time of Empire FFS. They would NOT have advertised the cabin temp as "32 Celsius".
@@hoilst265 seethe
I think Rex's Hanger did a great job explaining this, he always uses the units used at the time the vehicle was built with conversions added in post, as this makes the data make more sense compared to other vehicles of the time.
Looks like something that never got past the prototype phase yet was actually in service for decades!! Incredible!
Great video!
16:51 - The travel memoir "Blind White Fish in Persia" by Anthony Smith (1953) talks about the Nairn bus service rather poetically:
"Only the Nairn bus disturbed our sleep, a creation of noise and light which came from the west and disappeared in the east. Its thundering form passed quite close to us as it drove through the night, over the uneven earth of the desert, over the land where there was no road; it went like a ghostly being, impervious to the land upon which it rode, disdainful of the irregularities, regardless of everything save its destination; and to that place it roared, relentlessly and powerfully, until the daylight came once more and made it lose its wilder aspect. Then it would assume the humbler form of a bus and find its way into the town of Baghdad..."
Beautiful quotation!
I have known about the Nairn buses since childhood. There are some photos in the book First Overland, The Oxford and Cambridge Far Eastern Expedition of 1955. I see you have included one of their photos, complete with their Land Rovers. In the eighties I met a gent that had used the bus during the Fifties. He told me he travelled from Baghdad via Beirut, then on to the UK to see his girlfriend in Brighton! he did this 4 times per year, before settling in the UK.
Here I’m thinking, what if Calum uploaded a new video, it’s been long enough right.
No new video 😢
Half an hour later, this glorious treat; huge overland vehicle.
IM DELIGHTED!
See I read your thoughts and I was like screw it, video tonight!
@@CalumRaasay Another well researched video. Very much enjoyed that!
My guess is, one of the coaches is used as a shed for goats, somewhere I. The Middle East. 🙂
Fantastic. I love these All-in-one transport vehicles.
Always Quality.
Thanks Calum
24:17 Love that wink on Shaikh's face ;)
Seriously tho, Great video and hopefully I might visit that road as I kinda live near it in Saudi Arabia.
Who knows, maybe one day I'll also come by these buses if they're not already Chop Shopped :P
That render is absolutely gorgeous it's better than anything I've seen on TV for a history program. It takes a lot of understanding of what you are looking at to get it right and I think for the most part it succeeds which is amazing with how little reference there is.
At 17:47 there’s a photo of two land rovers which look very similar to the ones driven by some British guys who did the first overland from London to Singapore, they talk about the buses in there book “First Overland”
It is one of them.
Hi, I remember those buses running between Damascus & Baghdad. That was in 55 - 56 when I was living in Damascus. The terminal in Damasus was in city center.
love these videos from Calum.
Every video, I learn something new
This is just an amazing story.
25:22 Just pause and feast your eyes. I love machines that are bespoke designs to tackle challenging tasks. The Nairns really made it happen. Anticipate the problems and outfit for every tendency. And still you needed tough men to make it work.
I'll be dammed, the War Rig in the flesh! Incredible innovation in little slices of times past, thanks for helping preserve this history! Fantastic modelling too, that's a big ask with so little source material
Fascinating piece of history, and as someone who has driven on the "modern" roads that are this route today, I'm extremely impressed by these vehicles and the people who drove, built and maintained them.
There's a saying in the US. "Budd don't break." Budd vehicles are LEGENDARY for their structural durability.
Also, the luxury of the buses was entirely matched by the aforementioned Pioneer Zephyr, and its brethren and successors.
I'd love to see the Zephyr up close one day! TBH I'd never heard of it before researching this
@@CalumRaasay The Pioneer Zephyr herself is in a museum in Chicago, well preserved. Unfortunately, her display hall is underground, which rather prevents her from ever running again.
Her twin, the Flying Yankee, is in New Hampshire, struggling through her own restoration, hopefully to the point of operationality. I happened to see her up close in Lincoln, NH before she was moved to North Conway.
If you want to experience a ride, there is a close relative in the form of the Nebraska Zephyr (formerly the Twin Zephyr) at the Illinois Railway Museum, which is not too far from Chicago. She doesn't run every day, but if you let the museum know that you are coming and working on a documentary, they might be able to work with you. It's arguably the closest possible experience to the LNER's Coronation-both were pretty much national flagships at roughly the same time.
Here in Canada there are still Budd train coaches from 1947-1951 running 150 km/h Intercity services on Canada's busiest intercity rail routes in 2024.
Their replacements are now entering service so they should be withdrawn from intercity service within a year, though they will remain on long-distance sleeper services for another decade by which time they will have been running in regular service for 90 years
@CalumRaasay Yes! There were multiple Zephyr Train sets built For the Chicago Burlington and Quincy Railroad starting In the 1930's. The Nebraska Zephyr is still being run at Illinois Railway Museum . There was a rumor that a Saudi Prince had purchased one of these Stainless Steel Train sets. That has always intrigued me in an Indiana Jones adventurous way.
@@OntarioTrafficManwow, I’d love to go on one!
I can't begin to tell you how much I loved this episode! Amazing, the idea of these trucks, crossing the desert. Simply amazing. THANK YOU!
Glad you enjoyed it!
RAF: Nice bus you have there, we'll buy it.
Nairns: Nah, sorry not for sale.
RAF: anyway, here's a couple of pounds, thanks.
I wonder whether the RAF actually bought it. It seems more likely they just contracted Nairn and their employees to carry on running the service and paint RAF on the sides.
@@caw25shapossibly, though the book specifically said sold and stated a price. What’s more after the war the bus was run by a rival firm, implying it was bought off the RAF
The Land Rover seen at 17:50 is one of two from the "First overland" journey in 1954/5, in fact I think it's "Oxford" which I was lucky enough to drive a few years ago. Their journey is a fascinating story.
Another great video featuring some forgotten piece of technology. Thank you for this video and look forward to whatever is next!
21:50 that late photo shows a Scania L56 tractor pulling the trailer. Those were produced from 1959 to 1968.
It's a great day when Calum Uploads!!
It’s a relief for me too 😂
That book looks awesome. I remember picking up my 1990 Miata and checking to make sure everything was there. The Owners Manual Case says "The Mazda Way" and I always thought that was such a cool touch.
I love the "a comfortable 90° farenhight". Alot of A/C babies will goof on this.....when I was stationed in the Mohavi desert in the 1980's, we did tank gunnery in 125+ degrees in July. When I went to bed,waiting to go down range, I litterly froze my butt off in an extream cold weather sleeping bag. I asked one of the medics what the temp was.
He said 90. Here is where I learned a 30° temp change is a 30° temp change.
Think about it.
Tell me about it, I've lived in Asia for 10+ years and recently went back to the nordics, even at local tshirt and ice cream weather I was freezing my ass off.
This was well done! From the animation, to the information, to the narration, I could tell that a lot of effort went into this and that you did a bang up job on the research. I was amazed at the level of detail in the animation. I was captivated throughout the entire video.
What a fantastic film. Did anyone else find the desert driving sequences reminiscent of Thunderbirds?
Calum, I really enjoy the straight to camera bit at the ends of your videos. It gives a real sense of connection, and shows the passion you've put into hunting all of this information down. I also appreciate all of the acknowledgements given here, instead of relegating them to a credits roll.
What a fascinating video, of an incredible vehicle. I knew nothing about this subject, thank you foe enlightening me!
This is an awesome story I will be sharing it
Amazing! I'm from New Zealand but have never heard of this. So intrepid...
Thanks!
Having flown back and forth from Aman Jordan to Kuwait, all I can say is you’d be hard pressed to find a more lifeless desolate stretch of land anywhere on Earth. It is literally hundreds of thousands of square kilometers of gravel parking lot. What a crazy place to run a bus route.
I dont think ive heard of this before and im a kiwi, so glad i came across this video and decided to watch it!
Great video by the way and thank you for bringing this to my attention sir. Excellent stuff!
Believe it or not, in Iraq (atleast in the past as my grandmother was from there), Nairn was the word used for bus. Imagine being so iconic that your company overshadows the actual name of a product!
That does make sense actually.
Actually, in Iraq, iconic brands tend to take over the name of whatever product they represent.
For example, in Iraq we use:
Tide for anything that is clothes detergent
Kleenex for Tissues (regardless the brand)
Tang for orange juice (some places)
Vimto for fruit juice
and the most interesting three of all
Samoon for bread, named after the Armenian baker (Simon/Simone)
Temmen (Based off the brand 10 Men) for rice.
Estican (named after British mockery word "East Tea Can") for tea cup (the traditional one).
The first one that comes to mind is Hoover
The 3-D recreation really brought this story alive. What an amazing story.
This needs to play a HUGE role in the next Indiana Jones film!!!!! It's such a great backdrop for sooooo many different scenes in an Indiana Jones film! It's even in the era of pre-war NSDAP. I can EASILY PICTURE Indy stuck in the middle of a bunch of Nazi SS, crossing the desert, aboard the Nairn Trans, loaded with stuff stolen by the NSDAP!!
I know, imagine that Last Crusade tank battle on one of these buses!
Oh yes it has Indiana Jones written all over it!
This is so cool. I am an old machine lover, Planes, Trains and automobiles. I did not know these existed. Thank you for this story.
Imagine the kind of stories those former employees could tell. The mechanics having to keep the fleet alive in a harsh land, the drivers running them across the desert and everyone in between. Must have been a wild time.
So when can we expect that model to be imported into Snowrunner?
The best thing about this channel is that I never know what I'm going to learn! Thank you Calum for sharing something you are so passionate about and thank you Brendon for your AMAZING 3D work... I'm gobsmacked!
21:42 That looks like a Scania truck from that time period, they swapped out their old rather custom vehicles for something more common.
Pleasure to watch did know about this transportation. You did a great job. Thank you.
About to boost that retention time with a 100% watch through of a new Calum video!
Hope you enjoy!
Another fascinating subject, makes me want to build a model of that enormous off-road bus. Also love those old magazines, must be a blast to browse thought them, fantastic artwork. Thanks Calum, great content!
Transportation in the 1930s decade is pretty unique.
You are one guy who finds the coolest stuff to learn about... thanks a bunch
New Calum vid just dropped let’s go
Yep, bust out a bottle of wine, whisky, tequila or what ever your poison, sit back for half an hour and enjoy a documentary with better production values than the History channel!
fr, great youtuber
Appreciate you!
I'm currently going for a Skye Gold craft ale (But I'm not watching, I'm sick of watching it by now!)
@@CalumRaasay Have a Pork pie as well, they are great pies
The amount of work put into this video with just your introductory is massively impressive! The 3D rendering of the truck is top tier and attention keeping.
Great episode mate!
Here’s a thought; Arabic and Persian language Social Media. I’m willing to bet at least one of those vehicles remain somewhere. Those old trucks and trailers don’t really ever die, they just cease functioning. But absent rain, dry climate, no rust, in a society not known for recycling? Why would they die or cease to exist? Anybody fluent in Arabic and Persian in your network? Just a thought. Have a great day Callum!
Funnily enough I did a few searched in Arabic and Persian to see what I could find online. A few photos (including that one of the pullman very late on, possibly the last photo of it) but not much else. I'll maybe have to see if I can find a researcher over there!
21:10 The tractor up front of the bus appears to be a swedish Scania LS110S (1968 - 71). Thanks for sharing !
Well next time I'm on a small sleepy island in Scotland I know where to get a coffee!
Easily one of the best channels on TH-cam. I’ve seen them all
Thank you!
Yes, 2nd class…..sitting over the axles…must have been bumpy!
This is an incredible story! I'm an absolute sucker for old school machines, and I agree that the pictures and photographs make it look sooo Mad Max!!
I cannot think how much of research has gone into this video, brilliant job!
The story of the company almost closing down and a Sheikh then using it to smuggle his gold across the desert really is amazing!
Thanks for making this video!
Imagining what it must've been like to be a passenger, it reminded me of a similar bus service that still operates today. Rotel Tours "rolling hotel", where the rear section of the bus (or a trailer) is three levels of berths for passengers sleep when stopped for the night. The company is based in Germany but they ship the buses all over the world for tours all over. I've seen 2 or 3 of them myself here in Canada. A German-registered European-made custom triple decker coach/hotel certainly stands out in B.C. or Alberta.
Haha it's funny, it does remind me a lot of that but I never made the connection until I saw a few comments on it!
Saw your visit to Alaska and the airbase and now this.. So entertaining and interesting to listen to somebody talk about things he truly fascinated by.. Extremely well presented and hard to not get caught up in your passion your excitement about these amazing vehicles. ... greetings from Australia..
4:46 I Will never unhear Dankpods Cashies BGM there.
OH WELL THEN HEEEAD ON DOOWN TO CASHIEESSSSS
Hey look! Golf clubs. Cya boys in 6 months.
@jacobrzeszewski6527 Look, the thing no-one wants, used in-ears!
Thank you for this video - I knew a little of this amazing vehicle as it's briefly mentioned in a book I have - but you've added much to my knowledge!
In Tim Slesser’s book “First Overland”, about the 1955 London to Singapore Land Rover expedition, as well as the companion BBC film documentary, these busses are shown. The picture you showed of the bus next to the Land Rover is from this expedition. Incidentally that Land Rover ( the dark blue one) still exists. The BBC film also shows footage of the shops where they were constructed and maintained. By this time period ( mid 1950s) it appears they had built a modest fleet of busses comprising of both the straight frame and tractor trailer variety.
You mentioned you wondered if any of the busses might still exist somewhere in some forgotten state.
Interesting coincidence; I discovered one of the Burlington Zephyr trains you pictured, sitting on pallets in a scenic mountain railroad train yard, just two weeks ago, in Northern New Hampshire, ( USA) It is apparently being restored.
Excellent research. Well done!👌
You have just made my day, I can’t believe there’s footage out there! Absolutely amazing. Thanks for the comment
@@CalumRaasay
That London to Singapore expedition was partly sponsored by the BBC. David Attenborough gave them a ton of film and it became a multi part documentary shown on British television, some of which is on TH-cam.
Cheers.
The Land Rover does Indeed still exist, I once briefly drove it, not sure where it is now as it went out around the world again I think.
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How cool!
That old Landy has soooo much character!
I would love to see it up close!
You have touched greatness my friend.👌
@@onetonlandrover
How did it drive?
Loose and wobbly or tight and sorted?
Calum- thank you for always producing incredibly well researched and interesting topics. Keep them coming, please!