Edit: In the video, I said that setting the HDMI Black Level on the Switch to normal or auto is better than low, but after going back and forth, I realized it's much better to keep the HDMI black level to low for the Switch too, as well as for the PC, PS5 Here's the difference between them on Switch ibb.co/mXdwGcn Low ibb.co/Q8Pkq36 Normal & Auto Let me know if you have any question about the QN90D 43" QN90C 43" vs. QN90D 43": th-cam.com/video/-3yuEMnzR8c/w-d-xo.html LG C4 42" Review : th-cam.com/video/V44NE19fYqI/w-d-xo.html TV/Monitor playlist: th-cam.com/play/PLg8ANjUNzqfP82x1mxLdS7Th3YiFlsyn1.html If you enjoy my content, PLease give it 👍, Subscribe, & Join the TECHOSAUR Community on Discord here : discord.gg/PXmJY6BP8b become a member: th-cam.com/channels/-jauq-kZ20FrlnCMkx2gSQ.htmljoin Pateron: www.patreon.com/TECHOSAUR
The HDMI Black Level settings have ZERO DIFFERENCE in quality, as it is simply supposed to be set to match what the connected device is outputting its RGB values in (either full or limited RGB). If you set it incorrectly, you will either wash out or crush+overbrighten detail. Just leave it on AUTO unless your device is reporting its RGB ranges incorrectly(probably not happening) LOW setting is for LIMITED RGB. Normal setting is for FULL RGB. Both ways will have identical picture. Mixing Low/Full or Normal/Limited will mess up the picture's detail
The HDMI Black Level setting differs from the RGB range. The HDMI Black Level on your TV determines how it interprets the signal's black levels, while the RGB range on your device sets the range of colors it outputs. Matching these settings is advisable to avoid picture issues like washed-out or crushed blacks. RGB range is usually best set to FULL for dynamic range color grading. I kept changing the HDMI Black Level between Normal/Auto and Low, and trust me, setting it to Low is the best change I've made on this TV. It completely removed the dusty-looking filter. Note that the HDMI Black Level setting might be disabled if you set the TV to Game Mode and 144Hz. However, changing it to 120Hz unlocks this setting even in Game Mode, allowing you to set 12-bit color (12 bpc) too.
Great review and you also made great comparisons with QN90C and C4 but I'm sorry to say this, your picture settings are totally off. Colors should never be set to native because some of colors are totally wrong and oversaturated on native. The same with hdmi black level, it shouldn't be at low, it crushes blacks and highlights. On top of all this you even enabled color booster which you also shouldn't. I had 42" C3, 43" QN90C and have 43" QN90D now next to 32" LG IPS monitor and 32" Innocn IPS Mini Led monitor which have really accurate colors and I did set QN90D so that it matches the two monitors. Trust me your settings are totally off with lots of black crush, missing highlights and very oversaturated colors.
I noticed that setting the HDMI black level to "Auto" can make shadows too bright, ruining the black contrast. Revealing hidden details, you will see colors crushed in shadows. Switching to "Low" truly transformed the experience for me; everything looked deeper, and blacks were much more concentrated, giving an OLED-level feel. However, I agree that the color booster is not a necessary change. Using the normal color slider yields the same results. I set the colors to "Native" because, on "Auto," yellows appeared off-like egg yolks with strange highlights and blue too, they lacked the deep saturation. Overall, it made the colors look washed out. I don't know how our opinions are contradictory, but I suppose it comes down to personal preference. I spent hours trying to optimize the picture to what I find appealing in different scenarios, gaming, desktop, watching. Now I don't need to do anything special when changing between them. I feel that everything is quite visible and, to my liking But I understand you may prefer other picture refinement settings, i showed the ones I feel are best based on what I can see, I still use them, this TV is my daily driver, I absolutely love it
@@TECHOSAURAh, my mistake, I see you are using windows in HDR, that's a different story. Though you have all these settings turned on in SDR because this truly makes a horrible picture in SDR. Your settings are fine for HDR but unfortunately QN90C and QN90D don't have a very accurate picture in HDR. It looks wrong compared to my Innocen Mini LED monitor, no matter how I change the settings. Some colors are simply off all the time. For example my Sony 65X95J is way closer to the picture of Innocen Mini LED monitor in Windows in HDR but Samsung is known for not being the most accurate while Sony has one of the most accurate image of all TV brands. I don't use windows in HDR anyway, I use it in SDR only and both QN90C and QN90D are nice screens for Windows in SDR. I have to say LG is on par with Sony regarding accuracy, the 42" C3 that I had before QN90C and QN90D was really accurate in both SDR and HDR, it was just as accurate as an IPS monitor but I couldn't stand the tinting and ABL. It was really distracting and annoying for Windows usage, imo a lot more than the contrast and color shift from VA panels on QN90C and QN90D.
Great review! Just one question, there is a way to have that cursor, like a mouse, just like the LG Tv's? I think that is a very good feature that misses in samsung tv's
Hi. Great very detailed review. Thanks. I waiting for your next comparison video -QN90C vs QN90D. Could you tell me if you see any improvement/difference regarding reflection on the new QN90D vs QN90C as last year 43" model didn't have any anti reflection screen according to Samsung website. Last year they did only on 55" and above models but this time they claim 43" and 50" screens comes with anti reflection screen as well. Thanks.
Thanks The QN90C 43" from last year also has an antireflection finish, exactly the same one found on the QN90D 43", even on its page it lists this feature Maybe it could be that in different regions some features are absent, but I can confirm that the QN90C has a very good anti-reflection and exactly the same one on the QN90D, there hasn't been any difference in that part, at least where I get it from in Europe, also in the coming video you will see that both are indifferent in finish here are the model numbers I got here QE43QN90CATXZT
very good video. i recently bought a qn90c. as I use my 43inch tc as a PC monitor as well. can you guide me regarding contrast enhancer as many tv reviewers do not like it.
It's a solid choice. It's my daily driver. I use it for all purposes: gaming, working, editing, and watching. This is what I use at my personal desk, and I'm quite satisfied with it. I recommend you watch all the videos I made comparing it to the previous QN90C as well as the LG C4 42. I'm making one about SDR vs HDR gaming; it will be up in the coming days. My only issue is viewing angles, so if you sit facing it, you won't have a problem, but if you place it at an angle, it's horrible; you'll immediately hate it. Also, the latency isn't the best, and you get a bit of a ghosting effect as I showed in the video, mostly in browsing and scrolling. In gaming, it's not noticeable. It has 144hz, 4 HDMI 2.1, 4k, and all features like adaptive sync, etc.. I personally recommend it especially if u can get it for a good price
@@TECHOSAUR Knowing what you have told me, which other TV you recommend 100%, I am also thinking about this one which is a better ASUS ROG Strix XG43UQ monitor, I don't know how it will look in movies.
ofc it max at 120fps, but on the PS5 dashboard its always 60hz, it's capped, plus VRR is on so it gets above 60fps at 26:48 it shows the connected HDMI device specs VRR 48hz - 120hz and supported frequencies
Thanks for the video. Is it possible to multiview my PS4 (hdmi 1) and my pc? I know I can't use two hdmi sources at the same time, but is it possible to view my pc on the second screen using an app or mirroring it somehow? Thanks
Yes!!! You can do so by using Windows screen mirroring. I showed you this too. I had Both Nintendo Switch on HDMI 1 and PC using Windows mirroring Works like charm
Thinking about dropping my 42C2 for this TV. I use it strictly as a PC monitor and am tired of worrying about burn in. Hate the fact that the C2 lowers its brightness when i play certain games. I love the contrast and black levels of OLED but am concerned about blooming with the Samsung.
Tbh, you shouldn’t be concerned about blooming. Samsung has been working quite well on increasing local dimming zones. I believe it’s ~500 in this one. Also, it’s good at controlling them. However, the panel latency is what you should be concerned about. There’s a significant downgrade going from OLED. To me, personally, it’s the worst thing about it, but as I said, for gaming and watching, it’s not noticeable, mostly if you scroll But I suffered from the same things you did with an OLED. It's frustrating
I also got this as a possible replacement for my LG C3. Out of the box, with limited time on it and having a few adjustments on the settings, the contrast is on par with the C3 with the advantage of being much brighter and with better picture. However, I had problems with PC input that hopefully techosaur's video would help. The unit I have seems glossy.
It's still a VA panel, and viewing angles are the same, not the greatest but the improvement I've seen is in local dimming, and I don't see dirty screen effect. Also, the panel on the QN90C used to be a bit tinted with blue. It wasn't giving me a true white on an all-white background; only when I put them side by side did I realize this. I set the color tone to "standard." The QN90D is much better in that manner. Could it be my panel was just bad on the QN90C Reading some reviews, it seems that the biggest upgrade lies in the newer chip, which is able to process images much better and upscale. This could be the reason behind the better local dimming I'm seeing as well. Still, it's not the biggest upgrade, as the QN90C was really great. I used it for a whole year, and I couldn't be happier.
@@TECHOSAUR Gotcha. I have a QN90C 55" ADS panel. I kind of want to get a 50" or 43" QN90D strictly for my PC. Do you know if there are any panel differences in the 50" and 43" sizes? Does the 50" variant have the scrolling issue like the 43"? Also, is the 43" version you have a pure glossy screen? Rtings has the 65" having a semi-glossy screen. My QN90C 55" has a glossy screen.
@TECHOSAUR There are some differences with the available settings in my unit. Software is up to date. I selected warm 1 as advised by Caleb of digital trends. I'm still testing, but i'm confuse if i still need to enable hdr (ctrl+shift+b). I only tested with hdr TH-cam videos and netflix.
Overall it works well as a workstation. Features I like are the brightness, no need to deal with the annoying abl and the forced 1-2 min screen saver in the lg c3. Text clarity are the same but does not bother me much.
@@lamjk10 I'm also looking to use it as a monitor. How is latency/ghosting? Is it as annoying as people say? Techosaur made a ghosting test in gaming, but driving cars in games is not a good test at all.
Yes, it can be found in the accessibility settings. Here it is: ibb.co/7yS7YB2 You press it once, and screen turns off while sound still plays. If you press any button like tbe middle or any of arrows, it turns back on.
I made a comparison video between QN90C 43" and QN90D 43" Testing upscaling, mind-blowing on 720p 🤯 th-cam.com/video/-3yuEMnzR8c/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Weuq6TLtsqeJ6kbt
At 22:15, I tried to show what it's like. It's a VA panel, same as the QN90C 43" from last year, in terms of viewing angles. In that test, when you face the screen directly, circles are white, but when viewed from an angle, they lose their contrast, they become blue and inconsistent in the middle. Also later on in same video I show in real-world scenes, you can see that colors tend to shift or wash out compared to how they appear when viewed directly. I don't think its a good choice if you plan to look at it from angles, they're quite narrow I never had the QN90B 43" to know the difference but I can tell you its the same as QN90C 43" from 2023
Great video, I'm about to purchase this T.V but I'm afraid of ghosting issues since the Q80T I have in my living room has a terrible greenish ghosting when playing at 120HZ on PC. Does this t.v have any similar issue at high refresh rates for PC gaming?
For anyone checking, I got the qn90D today and although it doesn't have the inverse ghosting the q80t had it still has a littoe bit of normal ghosting at every HZ being less noticeable at hugh refresh rates
I hardly ever notice ghosting in gaming. I play on 120-144hz. Surely, the more you focus, the more noticeable it gets, but at least for me, it's not distracting enough to cause me to see it during normal use. Perhaps only for gaming. In web browsing for PC, I see lots of ghosting when scrolling. I get text trails and afterimages, so just like any other display, there are pros and cons. Personally, I'm keeping it for my PC desk and console gaming
@@Sorianosebas I've heard setting Colour Space to Auto and input to PC Mode can help with ghosting. I was thinking about getting it to use as a monitor, what you think?
Great review, I was looking at another video about the QN90D and they said the 43" has a wide angle layer this year (bigger models have the ultra wide), can you confirm this? Maybe by comparing the viewing angles with the 43QN90C! On my 43QN90B when viewing straight on and 1-2m from the screen if I move my head a little to the sides I can see the colours change saturation towards the edges of the screen. Does the QN90D do that or can you view it from straight on now and not have any colour shifting at least? That would be a big improvement over the QN90B to have more uniform colours like an IPS panel at least when viewing straight on to it and even a little off angle before it starts to become noticeable and still have those great VA black levels. Maybe you could make a video comparing the QN90C to the QN90D for viewing angles. From this video it looked like it's improved! VA panels are not going to have the same angles as IPS but they can improve them. 😀 For the video, if you could sit in front of the screen with the camera around the centre of the screen and move it so it's looking at the right side of the screen then back to the center and try to notice if it changes saturation and do black levels deepen then lift in real content from 1-2m away? Colours always shift on mine and in darker scenes you can see the shadows deepen, when moving from the centre of the screen to the edge then it starts to lift the shadow detail when moving back to the centre again. So i'm always seeing less saturated colours and lifted blacks towards the edges of the screen when viewing from the center. But it isn't too bad really when you're enjoying something, but could be better. 😉 Edit: Actually both the 43" C and D say they come with wide angle layer now.....what?! Still would like to see it action though if you could and hear your comments on it!
Thanks for your input. I recently compared the QN90D to the C4. th-cam.com/video/YpIIazzqvMw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wBqtYY5mutATaHFO Part 7:31 focuses on the viewing angles. You can see that on the C4, no matter how we sit or move, colors and brightness hardly change, while on the QN90D, it shifts just like any VA panel. I don't recommend using it at all while sitting at an angle; it destroys quality 100%, and the image looks horrible. Human skin looks desaturated, like super pale, and all the beautiful colors you could see while sitting in front suddenly become ugly and washed out, and you even see white halos from text weird stuff to say the least. While I know you are interested in the QN90C versus the QN90D in this regard, I can 100% tell you that they're the same in viewing angles, panel coating, and most of the physical appearance. I hope to help, but I don't recommend getting this TV if you care about viewing angles. As for me, I don't care because I use it as a personal desk case, so I sit in front and don't care what quality others see up, down, left, or right 😜 Please let me know if you have any questions
@@TECHOSAUR Thank you for getting back to me, i'm not sure if I communicated my question here effectively. What I meant was if you are seated looking at the centre of the screen from 1-2m away, is there any shifting in colour or blacks if you just shift your head a bit to either side of the screen? In other words I don't really care about having great off-angle picture quality but it should at least have decent colour and near black uniformity over the entire screen when viewed from the ideal seating position, centre or just slightly left or right of centre even. How is the colour and grey uniformity over the entire screen in real content from the centre, ideal position and only the ideal position? Is what i'm asking. 😀
@barryjones2366 I sit over a meter away and I can firmly say that viewing quality never changes as long as you are centered. Of course, not being accurately in the center is also fine. Things get bad if you sit at, like, a 45-degree angle. I don't know your standards for calling a beautiful image; each person could have a different opinion, but to me, personally, it's lovely and goes with my way of calling it a nice image, not 100%, but I never feel like, "What a horrible display or image it is!" Just make sure you follow my settings. I'm not saying this out of being a know-it-all, but because if you don't make those changes, I would give the quality a 50%. So, in order to get the experience I'm describing, you need to use the settings I've applied then ofc decide what's good for you On my QN90D display, I don't see any bad uniformity or dirty screen, while on the QN90C, I've seen it. I don't know if this new series got upgraded control over those issues. Also, the panel color tone is way more factory-calibrated. I can't help but feel that this generation is getting more quality control checks because on mine, I don't see any gray smudges or bad uniformity. It's hard to say 100% pure, but it's easily a 9/10 for this. I hope it was useful, please don't hesitate to ask anything about it, I feel happy to answer and make sure you learn about it
@@TECHOSAUR Thanks, maybe it's best explained this way, VA panels normally have terrible viewing angles and from viewing them close up they are especially bad (like my 43QN90B that I use for a PC monitor) so even when viewing it from the centre position there is an effect that happens called vignetting, where the edges of the display are less saturated and has more lifted blacks than the middle. In fact the centre part of the screen normally has black crush and as you look from the centre towards the edges the blacks get more lifted and colours less saturated....even when viewing from the centre. This is not ideal and is why one of the main reasons IPS panels are preferred over VA for PC monitors. Yeah so what I wanted to know is, is the screens colours and greys uniform across the whole screen from the centre position with the new wide angle layer? You can check by moving to the left or right side of the screen (still fairly centred but just centred more on the right/left side of the screen instead of dead centre). And notice does the pictures colour saturation increase and greys darken at the edges of the screen or stay the same from 1-2m away running real content of course? You just need to rock back and forth between the 2 positions (with content paused) and notice do the colours become more and less saturated depending on the position of your head and during darker scenes with grey in them, do those areas go from darker to lighter? Oh I forgot to mention you should look at the same spot on the TV from the centre and edge to notice if there is any change, so you're testing the colour and grey uniformity to see if it is actually uniform across the whole screen, so no dramatic shifts in it's characteristics. To do this you can look at the right/left side of the screen (right/left edge) from the centre then move your head or chair so you align with that side of the screen (so you are centred on that side of the screen) you may have to do this a few times with different scenes and see if you notice any changes like those mentioned above. 😀 There could only be subtle differences or dramatic differences you never noticed before doing this test, I normally test with a darker scene to test the grey shift and something with a bit of colour to notice the colour shift. Hope that explains it better. If there is no grey or colour shift from different positions then that means you have got a really uniform screen (nothing to do with DSE) from the wide angle layer they added. To at least give you a decent viewing angle from the centre position so the screen is more colour and grey consistent and uniform across the entire screen.
At 22:15, I tried to show what it's like. It's a VA panel, same as the QN90C 43" from last year, in terms of viewing angles. In that test, when you face the screen directly, circles are white, but when viewed from an angle, they lose their contrast, they become blue and inconsistent in the middle. Also later on in same video I show in real-world scenes, you can see that colors tend to shift or wash out compared to how they appear when viewed directly. I don't think its a good choice if you plan to look at it from angles, they're quite narrow
I never had the QN90A. I started with the QN90C and up. If you have the A, after yours there are the B, C, and now D models. There are significant differences in many aspects by now. First, the mini-LED was first-generation back in 2021 also the NEO QLED tech, and now it has improved with better local dimming, better upscaling, better HDR, colors, and an anti-reflective finish. Also, HDMI 2.1 is on all 4 ports, while the QN90A had only 1 port supporting HDMI 2.1. You can expect a lot of improvement over your current one in terms of panel and software. If you had the QN90C, I wouldn't say it's the case, but I think for anyone with A or B, it's safe to say it's going to be an upgrade.
No, I'm not a TV expert by any means. I just happen to review and make guides for things that I own personally, mostly. It helps me explore rather than just review them and move on to the next thing. When I share things here, it's always going to be about a piece of tech that I spend time on and use personally, like the QN90D 43, which is my current personal TV/monitor that I use for work, gaming, etc. I'm surely happy to make videos that are relevant for others. For that, I'm trying to scale things up!
@user-ld6lo7vd1i absolutely, I just uploaded a comparison between QN90C and QN90D th-cam.com/video/-3yuEMnzR8c/w-d-xo.html Amazing upscaling if you watch lower resolution, it doesn't work with PC or game mode but if you use any DVD, Blu-ray player or watch online upscaling works on lower resolution, you can find that part th-cam.com/users/clipUgkxnTuwt60tFWvHhUz1B7zHjEs3gXq4jXCh?si=FnhEPw0ZE5eZzxuj it also has better local dimming, Color Tone and HDR
I don't know for sure I tried to search but Samsung doesn't specifically say the amount, I would be surprised if it has less than 500. I just did a small test I made 10 boxes, the most left is 1px then 2px etc until 10px on the far right I then took another picture from the side to see the blooming as squares get bigger and based on what I can tell from it, I think the count is less than 1000, I think 500-720 ibb.co/qk2N5Sn ibb.co/fGFw6Yr
@steinvynck774 If you look at it from an angle, it will get terrible and washed out, which will destroy the whole image. But straight forward, it's decent. I love it more than the LG C4 OLED. Personal opinion.
Edit: In the video, I said that setting the HDMI Black Level on the Switch to normal or auto is better than low, but after going back and forth, I realized it's much better to keep the HDMI black level to low for the Switch too, as well as for the PC, PS5
Here's the difference between them on Switch
ibb.co/mXdwGcn Low
ibb.co/Q8Pkq36
Normal & Auto
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The HDMI Black Level settings have ZERO DIFFERENCE in quality, as it is simply supposed to be set to match what the connected device is outputting its RGB values in (either full or limited RGB). If you set it incorrectly, you will either wash out or crush+overbrighten detail. Just leave it on AUTO unless your device is reporting its RGB ranges incorrectly(probably not happening)
LOW setting is for LIMITED RGB. Normal setting is for FULL RGB. Both ways will have identical picture. Mixing Low/Full or Normal/Limited will mess up the picture's detail
The HDMI Black Level setting differs from the RGB range. The HDMI Black Level on your TV determines how it interprets the signal's black levels, while the RGB range on your device sets the range of colors it outputs. Matching these settings is advisable to avoid picture issues like washed-out or crushed blacks.
RGB range is usually best set to FULL for dynamic range color grading. I kept changing the HDMI Black Level between Normal/Auto and Low, and trust me, setting it to Low is the best change I've made on this TV. It completely removed the dusty-looking filter.
Note that the HDMI Black Level setting might be disabled if you set the TV to Game Mode and 144Hz. However, changing it to 120Hz unlocks this setting even in Game Mode, allowing you to set 12-bit color (12 bpc) too.
I was waitig for a review. You did it and very well done. Thank you.
Thanks , don't hesitate to ask anything about it, soon I'll do one for LG C4 42"
Great in-depth review. I think this TV’s picture quality with local dimming is amazing even without Dolby Vision. I think it’s worth it.
plus it has HDR10+
I use it with PC and it seems to be recognized in supported games showing in game HDR options
Suggestion, produce videos of side-by-side TVs, playing games and calibration and settings.
Yesss comparing video is coming pretty soon!!!
As well as C4 42" VS C2 42"
Great review and you also made great comparisons with QN90C and C4 but I'm sorry to say this, your picture settings are totally off. Colors should never be set to native because some of colors are totally wrong and oversaturated on native. The same with hdmi black level, it shouldn't be at low, it crushes blacks and highlights. On top of all this you even enabled color booster which you also shouldn't. I had 42" C3, 43" QN90C and have 43" QN90D now next to 32" LG IPS monitor and 32" Innocn IPS Mini Led monitor which have really accurate colors and I did set QN90D so that it matches the two monitors. Trust me your settings are totally off with lots of black crush, missing highlights and very oversaturated colors.
I noticed that setting the HDMI black level to "Auto" can make shadows too bright, ruining the black contrast. Revealing hidden details, you will see colors crushed in shadows. Switching to "Low" truly transformed the experience for me; everything looked deeper, and blacks were much more concentrated, giving an OLED-level feel. However, I agree that the color booster is not a necessary change. Using the normal color slider yields the same results. I set the colors to "Native" because, on "Auto," yellows appeared off-like egg yolks with strange highlights and blue too, they lacked the deep saturation. Overall, it made the colors look washed out. I don't know how our opinions are contradictory, but I suppose it comes down to personal preference. I spent hours trying to optimize the picture to what I find appealing in different scenarios, gaming, desktop, watching. Now I don't need to do anything special when changing between them. I feel that everything is quite visible and, to my liking
But I understand you may prefer other picture refinement settings, i showed the ones I feel are best based on what I can see, I still use them, this TV is my daily driver, I absolutely love it
@@TECHOSAURAh, my mistake, I see you are using windows in HDR, that's a different story. Though you have all these settings turned on in SDR because this truly makes a horrible picture in SDR. Your settings are fine for HDR but unfortunately QN90C and QN90D don't have a very accurate picture in HDR. It looks wrong compared to my Innocen Mini LED monitor, no matter how I change the settings. Some colors are simply off all the time. For example my Sony 65X95J is way closer to the picture of Innocen Mini LED monitor in Windows in HDR but Samsung is known for not being the most accurate while Sony has one of the most accurate image of all TV brands. I don't use windows in HDR anyway, I use it in SDR only and both QN90C and QN90D are nice screens for Windows in SDR. I have to say LG is on par with Sony regarding accuracy, the 42" C3 that I had before QN90C and QN90D was really accurate in both SDR and HDR, it was just as accurate as an IPS monitor but I couldn't stand the tinting and ABL. It was really distracting and annoying for Windows usage, imo a lot more than the contrast and color shift from VA panels on QN90C and QN90D.
Great review! Just one question, there is a way to have that cursor, like a mouse, just like the LG Tv's? I think that is a very good feature that misses in samsung tv's
No, the LG remote has a gyro pointer, the Samsung doesn't. It uses normal navigation without that pointer. True, it's a cool feature about the LG
@@TECHOSAUR nice, tthanks for replying!
Great video. Thank you. Will you be doing a review QN90D vs Bravia 9? Thank you
Not an match of equals... Bravia 9 costs many times more.
Hi. Great very detailed review. Thanks. I waiting for your next comparison video -QN90C vs QN90D. Could you tell me if you see any improvement/difference regarding reflection on the new QN90D vs QN90C as last year 43" model didn't have any anti reflection screen according to Samsung website. Last year they did only on 55" and above models but this time they claim 43" and 50" screens comes with anti reflection screen as well. Thanks.
Thanks
The QN90C 43" from last year also has an antireflection finish, exactly the same one found on the QN90D 43", even on its page it lists this feature
Maybe it could be that in different regions some features are absent, but I can confirm that the QN90C has a very good anti-reflection and exactly the same one on the QN90D, there hasn't been any difference in that part, at least where I get it from in Europe, also in the coming video you will see that both are indifferent in finish
here are the model numbers I got here
QE43QN90CATXZT
Here's the QN90C 43" vs QN90D 43" comparing
th-cam.com/video/-3yuEMnzR8c/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Weuq6TLtsqeJ6kbt
Thanks !
very good video. i recently bought a qn90c. as I use my 43inch tc as a PC monitor as well. can you guide me regarding contrast enhancer as many tv reviewers do not like it.
Thanks
Did you check my video of the QN90C 43" ?
th-cam.com/video/Dgpc4dB9xfQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=GqO4-wGcCf_0xVKR
Hi. What are the values are you getting on windows hdr calibration app? With contrast enhancer high HGIG and Dynamic black on low?
0.235 minimum luminance
400 maximum luminance
650 maximum full-frame luminance
this one should have better a ips panel then Va
Hi, I'm thinking of buying a monitor for my computer, but I also want to watch movies and play games on my PC. How would it work as a PC monitor?
It's a solid choice. It's my daily driver. I use it for all purposes: gaming, working, editing, and watching.
This is what I use at my personal desk, and I'm quite satisfied with it. I recommend you watch all the videos I made comparing it to the previous QN90C as well as the LG C4 42. I'm making one about SDR vs HDR gaming; it will be up in the coming days.
My only issue is viewing angles, so if you sit facing it, you won't have a problem, but if you place it at an angle, it's horrible; you'll immediately hate it.
Also, the latency isn't the best, and you get a bit of a ghosting effect as I showed in the video, mostly in browsing and scrolling. In gaming, it's not noticeable.
It has 144hz, 4 HDMI 2.1, 4k, and all features like adaptive sync, etc..
I personally recommend it especially if u can get it for a good price
@@TECHOSAUR Knowing what you have told me, which other TV you recommend 100%, I am also thinking about this one which is a better ASUS ROG Strix XG43UQ monitor, I don't know how it will look in movies.
Great!
Why ps5 games played as 60fps i want it 120fps
ofc it max at 120fps, but on the PS5 dashboard its always 60hz, it's capped, plus VRR is on so it gets above 60fps
at 26:48 it shows the connected HDMI device specs VRR 48hz - 120hz and supported frequencies
Thanks for the video. Is it possible to multiview my PS4 (hdmi 1) and my pc? I know I can't use two hdmi sources at the same time, but is it possible to view my pc on the second screen using an app or mirroring it somehow? Thanks
Yes!!!
You can do so by using Windows screen mirroring. I showed you this too. I had Both Nintendo Switch on HDMI 1 and PC using Windows mirroring
Works like charm
Es panel VA o ADS esa tv q90d de 43 "
VA panel
Thinking about dropping my 42C2 for this TV. I use it strictly as a PC monitor and am tired of worrying about burn in. Hate the fact that the C2 lowers its brightness when i play certain games. I love the contrast and black levels of OLED but am concerned about blooming with the Samsung.
Tbh, you shouldn’t be concerned about blooming. Samsung has been working quite well on increasing local dimming zones. I believe it’s ~500 in this one. Also, it’s good at controlling them. However, the panel latency is what you should be concerned about. There’s a significant downgrade going from OLED. To me, personally, it’s the worst thing about it, but as I said, for gaming and watching, it’s not noticeable, mostly if you scroll
But I suffered from the same things you did with an OLED. It's frustrating
I also got this as a possible replacement for my LG C3. Out of the box, with limited time on it and having a few adjustments on the settings, the contrast is on par with the C3 with the advantage of being much brighter and with better picture. However, I had problems with PC input that hopefully techosaur's video would help. The unit I have seems glossy.
Is this using the same exact panel as the QN90C 43"? Or did they change to a different VA panel?
It's still a VA panel, and viewing angles are the same, not the greatest but the improvement I've seen is in local dimming, and I don't see dirty screen effect. Also, the panel on the QN90C used to be a bit tinted with blue. It wasn't giving me a true white on an all-white background; only when I put them side by side did I realize this. I set the color tone to "standard." The QN90D is much better in that manner.
Could it be my panel was just bad on the QN90C
Reading some reviews, it seems that the biggest upgrade lies in the newer chip, which is able to process images much better and upscale. This could be the reason behind the better local dimming I'm seeing as well. Still, it's not the biggest upgrade, as the QN90C was really great. I used it for a whole year, and I couldn't be happier.
@@TECHOSAUR Gotcha. I have a QN90C 55" ADS panel. I kind of want to get a 50" or 43" QN90D strictly for my PC. Do you know if there are any panel differences in the 50" and 43" sizes? Does the 50" variant have the scrolling issue like the 43"? Also, is the 43" version you have a pure glossy screen? Rtings has the 65" having a semi-glossy screen. My QN90C 55" has a glossy screen.
@@scoob2818according to rtings the panels are the same up to 98 inches.
Sorry I forgot you already answered me regarding the Bravia 9
😊
Just got this tv. Saw this video and wondering how to set it up for best picture quality as a pc monitor.
Did it work out ?
@TECHOSAUR There are some differences with the available settings in my unit. Software is up to date. I selected warm 1 as advised by Caleb of digital trends. I'm still testing, but i'm confuse if i still need to enable hdr (ctrl+shift+b). I only tested with hdr TH-cam videos and netflix.
@TECHOSAUR weird thing is that the tv seems to be quite glossy, and viewing angles are not as bad as I would've expected.
Overall it works well as a workstation. Features I like are the brightness, no need to deal with the annoying abl and the forced 1-2 min screen saver in the lg c3. Text clarity are the same but does not bother me much.
@@lamjk10 I'm also looking to use it as a monitor. How is latency/ghosting? Is it as annoying as people say?
Techosaur made a ghosting test in gaming, but driving cars in games is not a good test at all.
Does this tv have an option to turn the picture completely off and just have sound? for night time
Yes, it can be found in the accessibility settings.
Here it is:
ibb.co/7yS7YB2
You press it once, and screen turns off while sound still plays. If you press any button like tbe middle or any of arrows, it turns back on.
How's the upscaling compared to qn90c?
I made a comparison video between QN90C 43" and QN90D 43"
Testing upscaling, mind-blowing on 720p 🤯
th-cam.com/video/-3yuEMnzR8c/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Weuq6TLtsqeJ6kbt
How are the viewing angles. I have the qn90b 43inch and it's terrible.
At 22:15, I tried to show what it's like. It's a VA panel, same as the QN90C 43" from last year, in terms of viewing angles. In that test, when you face the screen directly, circles are white, but when viewed from an angle, they lose their contrast, they become blue and inconsistent in the middle. Also later on in same video I show in real-world scenes, you can see that colors tend to shift or wash out compared to how they appear when viewed directly.
I don't think its a good choice if you plan to look at it from angles, they're quite narrow
I never had the QN90B 43" to know the difference but I can tell you its the same as QN90C 43" from 2023
Thank you so much.
Great video, I'm about to purchase this T.V but I'm afraid of ghosting issues since the Q80T I have in my living room has a terrible greenish ghosting when playing at 120HZ on PC. Does this t.v have any similar issue at high refresh rates for PC gaming?
For anyone checking, I got the qn90D today and although it doesn't have the inverse ghosting the q80t had it still has a littoe bit of normal ghosting at every HZ being less noticeable at hugh refresh rates
I hardly ever notice ghosting in gaming. I play on 120-144hz.
Surely, the more you focus, the more noticeable it gets, but at least for me, it's not distracting enough to cause me to see it during normal use. Perhaps only for gaming. In web browsing for PC, I see lots of ghosting when scrolling. I get text trails and afterimages, so just like any other display, there are pros and cons. Personally, I'm keeping it for my PC desk and console gaming
@@Sorianosebas I've heard setting Colour Space to Auto and input to PC Mode can help with ghosting. I was thinking about getting it to use as a monitor, what you think?
Great review, I was looking at another video about the QN90D and they said the 43" has a wide angle layer this year (bigger models have the ultra wide), can you confirm this? Maybe by comparing the viewing angles with the 43QN90C!
On my 43QN90B when viewing straight on and 1-2m from the screen if I move my head a little to the sides I can see the colours change saturation towards the edges of the screen. Does the QN90D do that or can you view it from straight on now and not have any colour shifting at least? That would be a big improvement over the QN90B to have more uniform colours like an IPS panel at least when viewing straight on to it and even a little off angle before it starts to become noticeable and still have those great VA black levels. Maybe you could make a video comparing the QN90C to the QN90D for viewing angles. From this video it looked like it's improved! VA panels are not going to have the same angles as IPS but they can improve them. 😀
For the video, if you could sit in front of the screen with the camera around the centre of the screen and move it so it's looking at the right side of the screen then back to the center and try to notice if it changes saturation and do black levels deepen then lift in real content from 1-2m away? Colours always shift on mine and in darker scenes you can see the shadows deepen, when moving from the centre of the screen to the edge then it starts to lift the shadow detail when moving back to the centre again. So i'm always seeing less saturated colours and lifted blacks towards the edges of the screen when viewing from the center. But it isn't too bad really when you're enjoying something, but could be better. 😉
Edit: Actually both the 43" C and D say they come with wide angle layer now.....what?! Still would like to see it action though if you could and hear your comments on it!
Thanks for your input.
I recently compared the QN90D to the C4.
th-cam.com/video/YpIIazzqvMw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wBqtYY5mutATaHFO
Part 7:31 focuses on the viewing angles. You can see that on the C4, no matter how we sit or move, colors and brightness hardly change, while on the QN90D, it shifts just like any VA panel. I don't recommend using it at all while sitting at an angle; it destroys quality 100%, and the image looks horrible. Human skin looks desaturated, like super pale, and all the beautiful colors you could see while sitting in front suddenly become ugly and washed out, and you even see white halos from text weird stuff to say the least.
While I know you are interested in the QN90C versus the QN90D in this regard, I can 100% tell you that they're the same in viewing angles, panel coating, and most of the physical appearance.
I hope to help, but I don't recommend getting this TV if you care about viewing angles. As for me, I don't care because I use it as a personal desk case, so I sit in front and don't care what quality others see up, down, left, or right 😜
Please let me know if you have any questions
@@TECHOSAUR Thank you for getting back to me, i'm not sure if I communicated my question here effectively. What I meant was if you are seated looking at the centre of the screen from 1-2m away, is there any shifting in colour or blacks if you just shift your head a bit to either side of the screen? In other words I don't really care about having great off-angle picture quality but it should at least have decent colour and near black uniformity over the entire screen when viewed from the ideal seating position, centre or just slightly left or right of centre even. How is the colour and grey uniformity over the entire screen in real content from the centre, ideal position and only the ideal position? Is what i'm asking. 😀
@barryjones2366 I sit over a meter away and I can firmly say that viewing quality never changes as long as you are centered. Of course, not being accurately in the center is also fine. Things get bad if you sit at, like, a 45-degree angle.
I don't know your standards for calling a beautiful image; each person could have a different opinion, but to me, personally, it's lovely and goes with my way of calling it a nice image, not 100%, but I never feel like, "What a horrible display or image it is!" Just make sure you follow my settings. I'm not saying this out of being a know-it-all, but because if you don't make those changes, I would give the quality a 50%. So, in order to get the experience I'm describing, you need to use the settings I've applied then ofc decide what's good for you
On my QN90D display, I don't see any bad uniformity or dirty screen, while on the QN90C, I've seen it. I don't know if this new series got upgraded control over those issues. Also, the panel color tone is way more factory-calibrated. I can't help but feel that this generation is getting more quality control checks because on mine, I don't see any gray smudges or bad uniformity. It's hard to say 100% pure, but it's easily a 9/10 for this.
I hope it was useful, please don't hesitate to ask anything about it, I feel happy to answer and make sure you learn about it
@@TECHOSAUR Thanks, maybe it's best explained this way, VA panels normally have terrible viewing angles and from viewing them close up they are especially bad (like my 43QN90B that I use for a PC monitor) so even when viewing it from the centre position there is an effect that happens called vignetting, where the edges of the display are less saturated and has more lifted blacks than the middle. In fact the centre part of the screen normally has black crush and as you look from the centre towards the edges the blacks get more lifted and colours less saturated....even when viewing from the centre. This is not ideal and is why one of the main reasons IPS panels are preferred over VA for PC monitors.
Yeah so what I wanted to know is, is the screens colours and greys uniform across the whole screen from the centre position with the new wide angle layer? You can check by moving to the left or right side of the screen (still fairly centred but just centred more on the right/left side of the screen instead of dead centre). And notice does the pictures colour saturation increase and greys darken at the edges of the screen or stay the same from 1-2m away running real content of course? You just need to rock back and forth between the 2 positions (with content paused) and notice do the colours become more and less saturated depending on the position of your head and during darker scenes with grey in them, do those areas go from darker to lighter?
Oh I forgot to mention you should look at the same spot on the TV from the centre and edge to notice if there is any change, so you're testing the colour and grey uniformity to see if it is actually uniform across the whole screen, so no dramatic shifts in it's characteristics. To do this you can look at the right/left side of the screen (right/left edge) from the centre then move your head or chair so you align with that side of the screen (so you are centred on that side of the screen) you may have to do this a few times with different scenes and see if you notice any changes like those mentioned above. 😀 There could only be subtle differences or dramatic differences you never noticed before doing this test, I normally test with a darker scene to test the grey shift and something with a bit of colour to notice the colour shift.
Hope that explains it better. If there is no grey or colour shift from different positions then that means you have got a really uniform screen (nothing to do with DSE) from the wide angle layer they added. To at least give you a decent viewing angle from the centre position so the screen is more colour and grey consistent and uniform across the entire screen.
How are the viewing angles?
At 22:15, I tried to show what it's like. It's a VA panel, same as the QN90C 43" from last year, in terms of viewing angles. In that test, when you face the screen directly, circles are white, but when viewed from an angle, they lose their contrast, they become blue and inconsistent in the middle. Also later on in same video I show in real-world scenes, you can see that colors tend to shift or wash out compared to how they appear when viewed directly.
I don't think its a good choice if you plan to look at it from angles, they're quite narrow
Thank you for the great video. We have the Samsung QN90A. Would you recommend upgrading to this tv?
Thank you
Peter
I never had the QN90A. I started with the QN90C and up. If you have the A, after yours there are the B, C, and now D models.
There are significant differences in many aspects by now. First, the mini-LED was first-generation back in 2021 also the NEO QLED tech, and now it has improved with better local dimming, better upscaling, better HDR, colors, and an anti-reflective finish. Also, HDMI 2.1 is on all 4 ports, while the QN90A had only 1 port supporting HDMI 2.1.
You can expect a lot of improvement over your current one in terms of panel and software. If you had the QN90C, I wouldn't say it's the case, but I think for anyone with A or B, it's safe to say it's going to be an upgrade.
@@TECHOSAUR Thank you so much for your response. Very helpful and much appreciated. Are you going to review the Bravia 9?
No, I'm not a TV expert by any means. I just happen to review and make guides for things that I own personally, mostly. It helps me explore rather than just review them and move on to the next thing. When I share things here, it's always going to be about a piece of tech that I spend time on and use personally, like the QN90D 43, which is my current personal TV/monitor that I use for work, gaming, etc.
I'm surely happy to make videos that are relevant for others. For that, I'm trying to scale things up!
@@TECHOSAUR Okay I understand. So you feel I will notice a better picture quality upgrading to the QN90D from the QN90A?
@user-ld6lo7vd1i absolutely, I just uploaded a comparison between QN90C and QN90D
th-cam.com/video/-3yuEMnzR8c/w-d-xo.html
Amazing upscaling if you watch lower resolution, it doesn't work with PC or game mode but if you use any DVD, Blu-ray player or watch online upscaling works on lower resolution, you can find that part
th-cam.com/users/clipUgkxnTuwt60tFWvHhUz1B7zHjEs3gXq4jXCh?si=FnhEPw0ZE5eZzxuj
it also has better local dimming, Color Tone and HDR
I have a doubt. Is it possible to use this Cyberpunk HDR10+ on PS5 or just on PC? Grateful.
Unfortunately, the PS5 supports only HDR10, not HDR10+ standard as of now
However, the Xbox Series X and S, as well as Windows 11, do support HDR10+.
how many local dimming zones does it have ?
I don't know for sure I tried to search but Samsung doesn't specifically say the amount, I would be surprised if it has less than 500.
I just did a small test
I made 10 boxes, the most left is 1px then 2px etc until 10px on the far right
I then took another picture from the side to see the blooming as squares get bigger and based on what I can tell from it, I think the count is less than 1000, I think 500-720
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I.m afraid the colors are too saturated 😢
U can reduce the saturation easily, I've tuned it to about 15 with cooler booster on high
@@TECHOSAUR ok.. good to know!
Are the colors than not faded or blank?
@steinvynck774 If you look at it from an angle, it will get terrible and washed out, which will destroy the whole image. But straight forward, it's decent. I love it more than the LG C4 OLED. Personal opinion.
Worst tv dont buy i purchased so much isse picture clarity is worst stuck