The Dreamcast - What Happened?

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  • On this episode of What Happened, we learn of the ancient legend that occured on the holy date of 9-9-99!
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  • @Lythero
    @Lythero 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1415

    Thank you Isao Okawa

    • @DestinyZX1
      @DestinyZX1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      If it wasnt for him SEGA wouldnt be here today

    • @ThievNWalrus
      @ThievNWalrus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      He was a Gentleman of Fortune, he was.

    • @Aazdremzul
      @Aazdremzul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      What an amazing legacy. I hope they have a statue of that man somewhere near Sega's main HQ.

    • @scottpiwinski6779
      @scottpiwinski6779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Get a life looser it’s a game console

    • @scottpiwinski6779
      @scottpiwinski6779 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No one cares

  • @GraveReaperCushions
    @GraveReaperCushions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2415

    *"WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE ATARI JAGUAR"*
    That's a t-shirt right there 👍

    • @moister3727
      @moister3727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      they were worried about the atari jaguar

    • @toiletsinjapan9933
      @toiletsinjapan9933 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Surprising considering the reputation atari had at the time

    • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
      @THENAMEISQUICKMAN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      THE ATARI JAGUAR IS A MAIN EVENTER, WE GOTTA PUSH THE 32X SUPER HARD

    • @universalperson
      @universalperson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Jaguar had an enormous amount of hype back in the day.
      Best comparison is microsoft being worried about google stadia before it came out

    • @toiletsinjapan9933
      @toiletsinjapan9933 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@universalperson but the actual company was in pretty bad shape behind the scenes. also the lynx had bombed pretty hard.

  • @Zabuza3190
    @Zabuza3190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1091

    “Years ago, I was Chinese” that had me dying.

    • @gemstonegynoid7475
      @gemstonegynoid7475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@CosmicG777 yesterday i was alive.
      doesnt mean that I'm not alive rn.

    • @jbaldinelli4
      @jbaldinelli4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +119

      @@CosmicG777 He was a Chinese citizen, but after living in Japan for so long he gained Japanese citizenship. That's how he describes it the game lol Trust me, I had the same reaction when I played Shenmue for the first time.

    • @justafox5356
      @justafox5356 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      CosmicG777 the full quote is “Years ago...I was Chinese. Now I’m a naturalized Japanese.” It’s just the wording and delivery that makes it sound so hilarious. If I had to guess it’s just a combination of iffy translation and the silly sort of amateur voice acting that helps make Shenmue such a delight. It makes it really feel like playing through one of those terribly dubbed Japanese martial arts movies.

    • @jonasamorim4958
      @jonasamorim4958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      is that so?

    • @continentalglue
      @continentalglue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Is that so?

  • @Guttabee
    @Guttabee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1383

    Imagine loaning 500 million dollars of your own money out of the kindness of your heart. In turn saving thousands of jobs, and peoples stability. Then on your deathbed, knowing you wont need that money soon, simply dropping the debt. That's half a billion dollars... Loaning the money was commendable on it's own, but then simply dropping the debt...
    Then we have Activision/Blizzard CEO's are laying off hundreds of people to make sure they get their few mil at the end of the year. Isao Okawa was a name I have never heard before today, but wish I had. If only we had more people like him. Having that kind of money, and actually using it to do some good is honorable, and yet men like him are rare. Hit me right in the feels.

    • @edgardeitz2784
      @edgardeitz2784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I only want to know if Isao Okawa was a saved Christian, because he *should* be in paradise. If he is,... :)

    • @barretprivateer8768
      @barretprivateer8768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      @@edgardeitz2784 How dare you. At least if paradise actually existed you wouldn't get to go there and bother good men like Mr. Okawa

    • @edgardeitz2784
      @edgardeitz2784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I didn't mean anything by my statement; I was merely stating my beleifs...

    • @EAZIIMAN
      @EAZIIMAN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      @@edgardeitz2784 you kinda made it seem like he's in hell for not believing in god even tho the man was a very kind and generous person. Pretty much like a back handed compliment. Some things shouldn't be said especially when speaking on the deceased

    • @edgardeitz2784
      @edgardeitz2784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@EAZIIMAN I just wish to let people know that is not what I intended with my comment; I was merely stating asking if he was a saved christain, an stating that if he is, that he IS in paradise now, which he deserves...

  • @kininlil9181
    @kininlil9181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1102

    Damn, seeing that Okawa bit made me emotional. I hope SEGA still paying respects to him.

    • @hanliu3707
      @hanliu3707 4 ปีที่แล้ว +116

      that's the kind of capitalist we really need in this day and age...

    • @jinkade
      @jinkade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Yeah I wonder if he's an Easter egg or cameo in any of their games. I would definitely have him as special thanks in the credits of every game released after his passing.

    • @SeanStrife
      @SeanStrife 4 ปีที่แล้ว +154

      @@hanliu3707 Unfortunately, most capitalists are the exact opposite of him. Between that guy and someone like Satoru Iwata, who took pay cuts twice so that nobody would have to lose their jobs when most game publisher CEOs would cut everybody lose to save their own profit margins.

    • @stranger59
      @stranger59 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      He believed in the dream...

    • @shinmiroku
      @shinmiroku 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I didn't know this part, what a hero, F

  • @Endar0
    @Endar0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2011

    This Isao Okawa sounds like a decent person.

    • @tobalitos23
      @tobalitos23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +295

      For Real, I knew a lot about this story but that one caught me by surprise. If there is any takeaway for me from this is that Isao sounds like a good man.

    • @origirindra1590
      @origirindra1590 4 ปีที่แล้ว +362

      sega should put a gold statue of him in front of their main office

    • @CornBreadtm1
      @CornBreadtm1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +346

      He saved so many peoples jobs that it's not even funny. And Japan was in a pretty shitty place at the time, so losing their jobs at SEGA would have been brutal in all respects.

    • @BknMoonStudios
      @BknMoonStudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +172

      The real MVP of Sega, and he wasn't even part of the company!

    • @Endar0
      @Endar0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +217

      So I looked it up. He did receive recognition from the Japanese government for his aid to technology companies, including Sega.

  • @KaguyaHimex
    @KaguyaHimex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +625

    Developed by two teams? Thousands of miles apart and with a language barrier? Absolutely no communication? Always a good idea! Never goes wrong!

    • @derealized797
      @derealized797 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      I kind of have to wonder. If they did go along with 3dfx, the difference it could have made. I mean, i wish i could travel to alternate universes for the what if's. Return with the Nintendo playstation. The N64 version of FF7. There's so many different possibilities which we know of.
      Everyone is all about time travel. I think this would be more interesting than that.

    • @xXFlameHaze92Xx
      @xXFlameHaze92Xx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Sega did it..... Thrice!
      Sega of America start designs Sonic 3 when they did not know Sega of Japan start to Design Sonic CD.
      Sega of America start designs of 32x when they did not know sega saturn design was already started by Sega of Japan.
      Sega of America start to make a deal with 3dfx when Sega of Japan already make the deal with Hitachi

    • @lazarushernandez5827
      @lazarushernandez5827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@xXFlameHaze92Xx
      The Sonic CD thing wasn't a big deal, apparently Sonic 2 (92) wasn't doing too well in Japan, so the team over there got to work on Sonic CD(released in 93), meanwhile STI in the U.S. started working on Sonic 3 early in 93 which launched in 94.
      Sega of America knew that Sega of Japan was working on the Saturn, the Saturn had started development in 92, one of the reasons the 32X used the same cpu chips the Saturn did was that programmers could get used to programming for them.
      The 32X was supposed to keep the Sega userbase engaged before the Saturn launched in the U.S. the following year (it launched in Japan in 94 the same year the 32X did in the U.S.)

    • @sandyr5407
      @sandyr5407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nowadays, we at least have Zoom. 😅

    • @Abel-Alvarez
      @Abel-Alvarez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      *Looks at Capcom Vancouver and Capcom Japan during their Dead rising 3 & 4 years* ummm yeah about that. 😬

  • @SHARDK2
    @SHARDK2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +422

    Isao Okawa is the Sega version of Satoru Iwata. What a fucking outrageously generous man to singlehandedly save Sega when they should've by all metrics gone under. Without him we would've never gotten shit like the Yakuza games or even possibly Persona or Dark Souls.

    • @ShOscar
      @ShOscar ปีที่แล้ว +25

      We would've never gotten "DAME DA NE DAME YO"

    • @Agent-yw1kj
      @Agent-yw1kj ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Persona already existed before Sega

    • @snailthelostcow63
      @snailthelostcow63 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Persona already existed way before Sega though. Keeping Atlus alive? Yes

    • @SHARDK2
      @SHARDK2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@snailthelostcow63 SMT existed, not Persona

    • @p5rsona
      @p5rsona ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@SHARDK2 google harder

  • @goddamnarshia
    @goddamnarshia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +473

    Isao okawa is officially a gigantic mega chad. Mad respect

    • @ColossalKilla
      @ColossalKilla 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      His name isn't Chad.

    • @willtheoreminer5527
      @willtheoreminer5527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Man's a legend

    • @dereksbooks
      @dereksbooks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@fumomofumosarum5893 Gifting someone that much more as your dying wish makes him a Giga Chad.

  • @CometX-ing
    @CometX-ing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2710

    The fact that Sega was saved by one extreeeeeeeeeeeemly generous man is honestly amazing in a way I cannot tell is good or bad.

    • @Luxocell
      @Luxocell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +193

      If SEGA was killed early, we would have never gotten Super Monkey Ball aka best game -dare to say- in the story of mankind

    • @chosebine2169
      @chosebine2169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +184

      good or bad i dunno
      the most SEGA thing ever? yes
      Baffling Buffoons saved by a Baffling Miracle

    • @DocMcCray
      @DocMcCray 4 ปีที่แล้ว +131

      Sega may have made a lot of mistakes post-Dreamcast, but all in all I like them as a company and believe they have made the gaming marketplace a better place. Much like Capcom, they had to learn a new niche to get into within the past 10 years, but they still publish titles that I enjoy. Yakuza being their new flagship IMO

    • @s0shadow
      @s0shadow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      just think about a world where there WASN'T a sonic racing game with danica patrick in it. scary thought.

    • @GreatNegus
      @GreatNegus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@s0shadow Say what yoi want but she's probably the best character in that game. A tier for sure.

  • @tacoman422
    @tacoman422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +326

    Gotta say, these days it's hard to imagine a wealthy chairman bailing out one of his own flagging companies instead of giving it the axe while waiting for a bailout from the government so he doesn't have to cut his own paycheck.

    • @hwanniggles187
      @hwanniggles187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Iwata did something similar during the Wii U. He cut his own pay to prevent any lay off

  • @super_speedster360
    @super_speedster360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I wish we lived in a world where the dreamcast succeeded

  • @AVGNROCKS1996
    @AVGNROCKS1996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1003

    I still find it hilarious that despite being Nintendo’s Rival, the two things that killed Sega as a hardware competitor was themselves and Sony.

    • @westfield474
      @westfield474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@Bloodletter8 Not Really, While the Playstation has cut into a lot of Nintendo's original console market share they've still continued to make a solid profit through a mix of smart business practices, strong IPs and dominating the handheld market.

    • @AVGNROCKS1996
      @AVGNROCKS1996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      @@Jose-se9pu Yeah, Sega ultimately dug their own grave, but Sony was a thorn in their side like nothing else and took their spot as Nintendo's ultimate rival.
      Fuckin "299"

    • @58jharris
      @58jharris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Both Sega and Nintendo made major goof ups in the 90's that allowed the rise of Sony and Microsoft into the console market. Nintendo survived though because they made fun games that had a loyal following and you could only play them on a Nintendo console.

    • @aaron_aj_knight_95
      @aaron_aj_knight_95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@ShadowWolfRising Well, Microsoft sort of had a hand in developing the Dreamcast, hence the label "Compatible with Windows CE".

    • @gamalsaad1545
      @gamalsaad1545 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      @@58jharris handheld saves nintendo

  • @BioroidPilot
    @BioroidPilot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +461

    You know I cant help but have some respect for Sega's boss being willing to give up a large amount of his own money so the company wouldnt have to fire everyone and go away, kinda wish more high rank Ceos and the like were like that.

    • @SeanStrife
      @SeanStrife 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      It must be a Japanese cultural thing; Satoru Iwata famously took several separate paycuts so that he didn't have to dock the pay or fire anybody at Nintendo when he was in charge. The philosophy there is that when workers are stressing if they'll keep their jobs or not, they won't put out the best possible product they can.

    • @moonman4307
      @moonman4307 4 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      @@SeanStrife most japanese workers are notoriously overworked and underpaid, so not sure if thats entirely true. Its just these 2 men were genuinely good people

    • @AzureKite
      @AzureKite 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      ​@@moonman4307 It holds true for Nintendo and Sega, at least. The rest of Japan might have differing views, but we've never heard of a Nintendo game being subject to crunch.

    • @maximsavage
      @maximsavage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Japanese CEO's are often held responsible when their company suffers, whether they deserve it or not; that leads to a massive loss of face. In Japan, nothing is considered worse than embarassment: losing face is the worst thing anyone can suffer. So, to avoid losing face (NOT to be altruistic or fair), some high-level businessmen will take a personal financial loss to save their company.

    • @flyballer1573
      @flyballer1573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      If you a billionaire and don't use your money to preserve what you love then what good is your money?

  • @wolfhawk1999
    @wolfhawk1999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    A Fred Durst signed Dreamcast is one of the most late 90s things I've ever heard

  • @Reverse_Spider_Parker_SH
    @Reverse_Spider_Parker_SH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    RIP Okawa san
    the supervisor of sonic adventure 1 ,2 ,and the savior of sega
    your dream will never die

  • @Boom12
    @Boom12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +422

    Isao Okawa went above and beyond to keep Sega alive. If that doesn't inspire selflessness, I don't know what will.
    He deserves all of our gratitude for saving Sega. May he rest in peace.

    • @TheBlackSeraph
      @TheBlackSeraph 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ..and indirectly keeping MegaTen alive since Atlus has been bought out twice - first by index then by Sega.

  • @toiletsinjapan9933
    @toiletsinjapan9933 4 ปีที่แล้ว +712

    Matt, here's an interesting tidbit you might not've heard: so it ends up that Sega wanted to exit the console business long before the dreamcast was even released. You think they were worried about the Jaguar, but they had another console in their crosshairs as well, the 3DO. Rather than shill out the megabucks to build their own console, the plan was to buy 3DO outright, who were developing their successor console, the M2, which was to be manufactured by 3DO's partner Panasonic. This basically would've given Sega a console that was rumored to be more powerful than the dreamcast sooner, with the benefit of Sega's first party titles on it. Apparently the whole deal was nixed at the last second because 3DO president Trip Hawkins (same guy who founded EA) tried to make a power play and asked to be the head of Sega of America. After that, all 3 companies ended up exiting the hardware business within a few years of each other.

    • @JonVonBasslake
      @JonVonBasslake 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      I want to see the mad timeline where that deal went through, even if it ended up making Trip the head of SoA... Though, it might have been better if he wasn't the head, even if the deal went through...

    • @toiletsinjapan9933
      @toiletsinjapan9933 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@JonVonBasslake Well, for one thing it would have meant the release of the M2 version of D2, which actually looked kinda cool to be fair. On the downside, alot of the arcade games which used M2 hardware ended up being notoriously faulty. Who knows how it would have gone, honestly...

    • @BoonMcNougat
      @BoonMcNougat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      You're kidding me. Back then, hardware manufacturers were so ignorant and delusional that they would consider coming out with a sequel to a system called 3DO with something called an M2? Wow, that is crazy, that they'd try to even go backwards with the model numbers like that. That's be extremely confusing to the consumer! Now excuse me while I play my XBOX 1

    • @JonVonBasslake
      @JonVonBasslake 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@BoonMcNougat What about XboX Series X, coming maybe probably sometime this year?

    • @BoonMcNougat
      @BoonMcNougat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@JonVonBasslake yes, thank you for helping me to prove my point

  • @mostlyjoe
    @mostlyjoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    It always strikes me as how strange the US, European, and Japanese home offices were constantly at war each other within Sega. It wasn't until after the restructuring with the collapse of the Dreamcast that their overall global platform was unified.

    • @mattm7798
      @mattm7798 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yeah, a good CEO would have seen the success and encouraged it, not rejected it because it wasn't supposed to happen that way.

    • @fredroberts8275
      @fredroberts8275 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Sega Japan felt they were being usurped by Sega Europe & America as they did pretty terribly in sales.
      There is also a real major cultural stigma in Japan about letting foreigners run your company and that is basically what Sega of America had been doing, even got the non-english speaking Yuji Naka to work in the US.

    • @toledochristianmatthew9919
      @toledochristianmatthew9919 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@fredroberts8275which is weird since Sega was originally an American company. Yeah Japanese branch gained more influence over time but that is still not an excuse with the way they treated their Western branches. It was the western branches that allowed Sega to dominate in the first place.

    • @Cableguy15
      @Cableguy15 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Game development in the 90s was very different from today. A lot of Japanese devs believed that westerners could only make weak PC ports or low quality games for the Atari. Companies like Sega Technical Institute and Rareware helped reverse that negative stereotype, but before they came to prominence, you could almost understand why they'd be annoyed at some American marketers trying to steer the company their way. SOJ seeing SOA's success probably ignited their national pride, which was why the Saturn catered so much to Japanese audiences and actually succeeded in Japan (But nowhere else).

    • @Adamtendo_player_1
      @Adamtendo_player_1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@toledochristianmatthew9919there was a jealousy within Sega of Japan at the success of Sega of America and Europe.

  • @stallionmouse
    @stallionmouse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    It's crazy to see someone like Okawa be part of the games industry and be so generous. It's like night and day compared to present day CEO/company practices.

  • @stupidbluebird
    @stupidbluebird 4 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    the dreamcast just had something special to it. no other console has come close to recreating the feeling of playing dreamcast. it's probably nostalgia but there was something unique to that console.

    • @G.G.___162
      @G.G.___162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      100% agreed

    • @kaisersoymilk6912
      @kaisersoymilk6912 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Part of it's charm it's due to its Hitachi-NEC chips, it wouldn't have been the same with 3Dfx hardware inside.

    • @atre5763
      @atre5763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You wrong! There is a console that recreated the Dreamcast. And that’s EVERY OTHER FUCKING CONSOLE!!!!

    • @THB192
      @THB192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I don't think it's just Nostalgia. Dreamcast games had a distinct look to them, on account of being well above the PS1/N64 but a bit behind the PS2. It has its own distinct aesthetic. And it has kind of a fascinating place in console history, as it directly inspired the development of the first truely modern online service-in a real way, SEGANET is the true predecessor to XBox Live.
      The other reason the Dreamcast is special is easier to quantify. It's *fucking batshit insane.* Sega knew they were doomed unless they could sell like crazy, so they had everything to play for and nothing to lose. Which means that teams were given license to make really weird games that wouldn't fly at any other time. AM2 put out Shenmue, which was crazy expensive and... okay I won't say Shenmue is *good* exactly, but it's a weird, weird game that feels like it was designed by space aliens and it's totally worth at least trying if you can grab it on Steam (apparently Shenmue 2 is much better...). Sonic Team put out Samba De Amigo, and ChuChu Rocket! (as well as PSO and the Sonic Adventure games, which were a bit more expected and... okay, Sonic Adventure isn't really all that great. Admittedly, I really kinda like SA2, but that's because SA2 epitomizes what I remember Sonic being as a kid: blue skies and kickass butt-rock). And of course Smilebit put out Jet Set Radio, the immediate award winner for Most Dreamcast Dreamcast Game.
      The reason I say it's not nostalgia is because I didn't grow up with the Dreamcast: I was a PS2 kid. But I've emulated these games and played ports later and they are nuts.

    • @atre5763
      @atre5763 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about the Switch?!

  • @terrenceswiff
    @terrenceswiff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    What Okawa did genuinely made me tear up. That's amazing.

    • @terrenceswiff
      @terrenceswiff 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah I guess

  • @whosaidthat84
    @whosaidthat84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I remember my brother and I being at the midnight launch at Gamestop. It was PACKED. So much hype and the clerk said "Dreamcast is no joke!" It's such a bittersweet memory because if you were there that night you would've thought that this thing was going to beat the PS2. RIP Dreamcast.

    • @rickyrosay33977
      @rickyrosay33977 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My birthday was literally the day before the launch my dad left my birthday party at around 8 pm he came back at around 1 am with a gift box in that box was a dreamcast it was the first new console I ever got while all I had at the time where hammydowns one of my best birthdays ever I still have that same dreamcast that copy of Soulcalibur as my launch game still works great

  • @job489
    @job489 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I recall the PS2 was also the cheapest DVD player in stores on its release date. I knew people who bought the PS2 to play DVD movies and never even played a game on it.

    • @Jansk1h
      @Jansk1h 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It wasn't the cheapest, but it was so cheap it was worth buying for that alone, since you cold also play games if youso desired

  • @bunyan2422
    @bunyan2422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    That scream spiderman makes at 16:24 is hilarious!

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I'M GOING TO DIE
      I will never forget that sequence now...

  • @mechajay3358
    @mechajay3358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I feel Sega got too overconfident with the Genesis success and didn't bother to properly advance their console line, taking the phrase "They do what Nintendon't" way too far.

    • @dovic2293
      @dovic2293 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      they were a one hit wonder just like Atari with the Atari 2600 being there best console and the Genesis being segas best console

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dovic2293 atari weren't really a 1 hit wonder their computers actually tended to do really well at least.

  • @RegalPixelKing
    @RegalPixelKing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Isao Okawa is such a legend, the man saved Sega, and he didn't even work there. I have not even heard his name until I saw this video. Hell, even on his death bed he waved the loan they owed and gave them his shares back, that's just inanely generous. I'm really glad Sega is still around because they do make some truly outstanding games, but god some of there upper management was mindbogglingly stupid.

  • @nicolemonrue
    @nicolemonrue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I remember the end of the Dreamcast cycle. I was working at Toys R Us at the time and I remember they discounted the Dreamcast to $50. I bought it and 2 extra controllers 2 extra memory cards and a handful of games, plus my employee "discount" I spent around $80. They were just trying to get rid of them. I still have mine til this day. I even still have the box lol. The playstation 2 release was a BEAST. We could NEVER keep even one on the shelf and we'd only get like 1 to 5 of them a week

  • @flyingfist4203
    @flyingfist4203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    7:20 "The competition from Nintendo-"
    *Cut to Mario dropping a baby penguin over the cliff.*

    • @lukebennett1648
      @lukebennett1648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      We all did it

    • @sifunmon
      @sifunmon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That penguin had it coming

  • @propheci
    @propheci 4 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    Shame about the Saturn, that was, and still is my favorite Sega console. Had no idea that Okawa guy stepped up to save the company. RIP to that guy👍👍👍👍.

    • @WraxTV
      @WraxTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, Saturn was amazing, though it's definitely a waste unless you got a region beater. Most the best games were Japanese exclusive.
      But yeah, when I got a Saturn, first things I got was a 4-in-1 Action Replay, S-Video cable, Vampire Savior and Die Hard Arcade. Was a fun as hell time.

    • @Tantalis77
      @Tantalis77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      nights into dreams and astal on saturn are two of my favorite games of all time.

    • @alfo2804
      @alfo2804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I just hope nobody watches this video and gets the impression that the Saturn's best looking game was Virtua Racing, since that is the only Saturn game shown in this video.
      Virtua Racing is nowhere near the specifications for an average Saturn game, why on Earth would you use that for comparison over Daytona USA or SEGA Rally Championship?

    • @LainWithSweetTea
      @LainWithSweetTea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tantalis77 no mention of shining force 3? Come on~

    • @atre5763
      @atre5763 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Saturn is worse than Dreamcast, and Dreamcast sucks already!

  • @oscarperez9783
    @oscarperez9783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    You can thank Sega of America president Tom Kalinske for making sega relevant in the console market and also thank Isao Okawa for saving sega from bankruptcy

  • @pumpkinhill4570
    @pumpkinhill4570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Another fact about the PS2 launch that often gets lost in these retrospectives is that it was a very affordable DVD player at the time. The Dreamcast could play CDs (and V-CDs which were pretty big in Japan), but people had just been spending thousands of dollars for DVD players in recent years, and even at the launch of the PS2 were still routinely spending $200-400 just to be able to through away their VCRs. The PS2 at $300 allowed you to upgrade to DVD and have one of the latest game consoles for little more than the cheapest DVD players were going for.

    • @gamesandplanes3984
      @gamesandplanes3984 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yup. This was probably the biggest reason ps2 sold so well.

    • @invencible373875559
      @invencible373875559 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      right, you could play with the ps2 and watch movies and listen to music on the same console, a deal as any i haven't seen since then

  • @ArrowValley
    @ArrowValley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +293

    I remember being the only kid in my class with a Dreamcast as everyone else wanted the PS2. I also said how great the Sega games were but it fell on deaf ears.
    Then years later, some of my friends purchased one when it was worth peanuts and already dead only to agree it had great first party games!
    That’s what I had been saying for years!

    • @atre5763
      @atre5763 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Your friends are dumb. They should’ve kept playing the ps2.

    • @Pooky1991
      @Pooky1991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nah. There were interesting titles, but theres still alot of ps1 games I find myself more interested in and wish would have some kind of comeback (Tomba, Einhander, Frogger He's Back, ect). If Sega were smart they would've utilized their ips outside of Sonic more wisely (I still want a new Nights game that's executed better and another Jet Set Radio). As for Shenmue, if the die down of hype for that 3rd game is to go by, it's still really niche a series and aged just as badly as some of the ps1 games despite how revolutionary it was at the time (plus some of the kickstarter issues makes the chances of a conclusion or resurgence of popularity very unlikely).

    • @33Dannyb
      @33Dannyb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I remember vividly when Sega dropped the Dreamcast price to $50 bucks, some people had two in their hands.

    • @crazyking1896
      @crazyking1896 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@atre5763 Your definitely a toxic PS fan who thinks anyone who doesn't like or own a Playstation is an idiot like you.

    • @Dark-Shinobi
      @Dark-Shinobi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Jose-se9pu wtf are you talking about??? The ps2 had a great launch line up Unreal Tournament, DOA II, Tekken Tag, Time splitters, midnight club, Madden etc. It out performed the Dreamcast out the gate people were buying them as cheap DVD players along with gamers this is why it sold better than the Wii. GT 3 and GTA 3 releasing one year later in the same year back to back is what straight up killed the Dreamcast everyone wanted a PlayStation at that time.

  • @crashschwarzen4642
    @crashschwarzen4642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    The Dreamcast was such a amazing console, Its such a shame they pulled the plug on it so early

    • @quangtran-rc9bk
      @quangtran-rc9bk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Crash Schwarzenegger just like the Vita

    • @LazyPirate8
      @LazyPirate8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@quangtran-rc9bk XD

    • @MrDmoney156
      @MrDmoney156 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@JohnDoe-kv3kd except the Dreamcast had actual good games

    • @misterbadguy7325
      @misterbadguy7325 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yeah, Sega did a lot right with the Dreamcast and managed to learn at least a good number of lessons from the Saturn... but the problem was, by that point, they had lost too much money and goodwill for anything short of the Second Coming to pull them out of their death spiral.

    • @JamalTheTitan
      @JamalTheTitan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@JohnDoe-kv3kd I personally think that damned sony memory card is what killed the Vita. What a dumb idea!

  • @jasonhill8696
    @jasonhill8696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It should be noted that Shenmue was so expensive to produce that for it to have made a profit every Dreamcast owner would have to buy it
    TWICE

  • @Twinleaf_2623
    @Twinleaf_2623 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    To celebrate the 20th anniversary of 9/9/99, my dad and I went on a bidding site to score a Dreamcast that came four controllers, 3 VMUs, and Crazy Taxi for just 60 bucks. By the end of the month, I got it in the mail. Since then, I've been building a small collection, getting games like Ecco the Dolphin, Shenmue, Grandia 2, Rayman 2, and Tony Hawk Pro Skater.

  • @rabb1t_guy
    @rabb1t_guy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +403

    Massive fan of the Dreamcast and I’ve seen loads of videos on its history and everything, but this was by FAR this was the most informative one that I’ve seen. Thanks Matt!

    • @guardrailman6924
      @guardrailman6924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I see your another initial d fan
      Takumi yawning

    • @derealized797
      @derealized797 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I remember, i bought my dreamcast soon after they announced that it was the end. People were like why would you buy that thing? Well because i got it brand new in the box for $50, and there were some good games out for it. So.... why not? Also. bleemcast. I mean, it all seemed obvious to me.

    • @Incubusnut
      @Incubusnut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Dreamcast was amazing. I was never more hyped for a system launch. Never regretted buying one for even a second.

  • @stevenc9251
    @stevenc9251 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Holy crap, I never knew about how they almost went bankrupt either. I for one am glad Sega is still around, and greatly appreciate the life line they were given to stay afloat.

    • @christiandacanay3086
      @christiandacanay3086 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LeynosJehuty That woild be Tec-Toy, Sega's Brazilian partner, selling them in Sega's behalf.

  • @drift180x
    @drift180x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Man Isao Okawa is an absolute legend, I like the games SEGA makes, so I’m very grateful to him for his amazing generosity and keeping SEGA alive.

  • @InfectiousGroovePodcast
    @InfectiousGroovePodcast ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I picked up my Dreamcast at 8am on 09-09-1999. I loved it from that morning all the way until the terrible news that it was going away. Honestly, it might be my favorite console of all time.

    • @iranoutofideasforausernam1703
      @iranoutofideasforausernam1703 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Part of me really wishes you'd picked it up just one hour later.

    • @randomguywithacar
      @randomguywithacar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same 9-9-1999​@@iranoutofideasforausernam1703

  • @aeongg9985
    @aeongg9985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Skies of Arcadia OST brings back some great memories 10/10

    • @CornBreadtm1
      @CornBreadtm1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I own it on the GameCube. Fantastic game. I don't even own a gamecube anymore, just the game!

    • @rorymalheur2545
      @rorymalheur2545 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What a trip hearing so much of it! Good times.

    • @Elc22
      @Elc22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes. I'm glad they updated the game and released it on the GCN. It's sad to see the game being mostly forgotten.
      We need a PC port.

    • @Wafflemage
      @Wafflemage 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dat Skies of Arcadia music. Beautiful.

  • @SaraNightfire1
    @SaraNightfire1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    I recently read Console Wars (a great book about Genesis vs SNES), and justd behind the scenes on what was going on in Sega at the time is just a history lesson in the business itself.
    America really pulled through for Sega, they hired a CEO who steered the company through a really rough patch and got games behind him. Hell, they're the reasons why we have M rated games (the hearing for violence in video games, Sega pretty much publicly spanked Nintendo when they were trying to put a stop to M rated games)
    Well, apparently success made the Sega of Japan jealous. They actually started to undermine the American counterpart, I wish I was kidding. They purposely did things to the company they knew would destroy the consoles so they can have their "I told you so" because their ideas were terrible. (google the first Sonic the Hedgehog concept, they thought that was one of their best ideas they ever had). That their ideas would work out better in the long run, Sega of America actually tried to protest several changes and was severely resigned at the end. Especially when some people dropped out seeing where it was headed and they quietly started replacing the employees with their own, some with completely insane ideas that were going to make the already bad situation worse and bullied the American counterparts to quitting.
    Yeah, Sega was a story of too much success from only one side of the pond.

    • @snailthelostcow63
      @snailthelostcow63 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      So... sega being sega again...
      This company is like Nintendo but on drugs

    • @OneTrueBelmont
      @OneTrueBelmont ปีที่แล้ว +10

      100 percent yes. I read that book too and it's just mind boggling how much they shot themselves in the foot.

    • @Oturan20
      @Oturan20 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Sega really does do what Nintendon't.

    • @kaneo1
      @kaneo1 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Oddest of all is SEGA was begun by Americans, & went Japanese-controlled later.

    • @TheBlueBlur100
      @TheBlueBlur100 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's pretty ironic considering the spiritual successor to the Dreamcast was the OG Xbox.

  • @brianvaira486
    @brianvaira486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Every Sonic, Super Monkey Ball, and Yakuza fan has Isao Okawa to thank. May he rest in peace.

  • @silverflight01
    @silverflight01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    16:58 o7
    A hero we will always remember

  • @03chrisv
    @03chrisv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I got a Dreamcast at launch when I was 14 years old. It blew my mind that I finally had arcade quality graphics at home. It's definitely one of my favorite consoles.

  • @Erdenichtspricht
    @Erdenichtspricht 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Throwing in Phantasy Star Online as another top tier game that came out on the Dreamcast. I put thousands of hours into PSO, PSOv2 and the GameCube follow-ups.

    • @nickh7777
      @nickh7777 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was really interested in that game and than...I got my first computer instead. I still don't regret it...

  • @Kspat2
    @Kspat2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The fishing games on the dreamcast with the pole controller were ELITE and yes I’ll die on this hill.

  • @boodlefightbunny
    @boodlefightbunny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I actually teared up a bit when I found out what Isao Okawa did. Truly legendary class act.

  • @JonRobTom
    @JonRobTom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "The 32X was born in a call from (then) Sega of Japan President Hayao Nakayama...Mr. Nakayama basically said that we had to do something about the Atari Jaguar."
    "If SEGA had picked the direct competitor to 3Dfx at the time. It would have been fine. But they picked someone (Hitachi SH-4 CPU architecture) we had never heard of. It was somebody's friend of somebody's friend at a Japanese country club. It was a head-scratcher, like, 'What are they doing?' That was mostly it."
    Damn. Those awful, out of touch hardware business decisions contributed to SEGA downgrading itself to a software company. Good thing that they bounced back though thanks to the generosity of the late, great chairman Isao Okawa.

  • @GenerationWest
    @GenerationWest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    "The SEGA Dreamcast is the superior machine!" - James Small

    • @ThePivotaddict
      @ThePivotaddict 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hearing matt say dreamcast without a shitty british accent or james small banter is weird

    • @atre5763
      @atre5763 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol no!

    • @gogetawhatif8138
      @gogetawhatif8138 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Faaaaaxxxxxx

  • @Frankenburger
    @Frankenburger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    It's also pretty important to note that a good chunk of Dreamcast's failure was because the frequent release of addons, and the miscommunication between Sega JP and Sega NA about the 32x and Saturn, lost them a lot of developer support. Nobody wanted to develop for the Dreamcast because they didn't have faith in Sega's ability to retain a single platform for a long period of time. This lead to a very underwhelming library for third party titles.

    • @pablocasas5906
      @pablocasas5906 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's kind of amazing that Nintendo also suffered a lot in terms of third-party support on their home consoles, though not on their portable ones, but still managed to survive through various console generation with their own first-party software
      Now that I think about it, aside from Sonic, Shenmue and Skies of Arcadia, I can't think about a major title for the Dreamcast developed by SEGA that wasn't an arcade like game

  • @LesbianJumpscare
    @LesbianJumpscare 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I started crying when hearing about Isao Okawa.
    God damn, what a man.

    • @Jansk1h
      @Jansk1h 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too man. Imagine believing in something so much and just wanting to see them succeed that you're willing to go above and beyond for them 🥲

  • @That_Ifrit_Guy
    @That_Ifrit_Guy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Didn't realize just how bad of a situation Sega was and how much of a legend Isao Okawa was!

  • @dizzydoom4230
    @dizzydoom4230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Sounds like Isao Okawa saved SEGA's ass overall with that huge bro move.

  • @gex581990
    @gex581990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    my god a Dreamcast with 3dfx would have been godly

  • @RyanPuffs
    @RyanPuffs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    7:21
    “Competition from Nintendo”
    *Mario drops the baby penguin off a cliff*

  • @dest151
    @dest151 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Wow..that guy saved sega..where would sega be without that man?

  • @alexandre9563
    @alexandre9563 4 ปีที่แล้ว +273

    Very interesting video, just like the rest of the show!
    I think Final Fantasy XV would be a good subject. The developement hell, the mixed release, the severals rerelease, the never ending cross promotions with other unrelated games or whatever products SquareEnix could find, the parts of the story that never made into the game... there would be a lot to do with. (I hope my english is ok in this post)

    • @JonVonBasslake
      @JonVonBasslake 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I think FFXV could be broken into at least two part. Versus XIII as it was originally going to be and that leading into the Wha Happun for XV proper.

    • @rebellyanmagic6409
      @rebellyanmagic6409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      An anime miniseries, a horrible movie, a patch released post-launch just to explain certain story elements, the DLCs that never got implemented and got published in a book that I think was only released in Japan.....just yikes.

    • @CornBreadtm1
      @CornBreadtm1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Might as well toss all 3 on the chopping block! Hallway simulator FF13, F14 1.0 and FF15 and it's amazing technicolor DLC!

    • @thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527
      @thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      CornBreadtm And don’t forget 13-2!

    • @Ramsey276one
      @Ramsey276one 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      THAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN A MUSICAL
      CUP NOODLE MODE
      XD

  • @zachiswayposi1
    @zachiswayposi1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Isao Okawa should have a giant statue in front of Sega's headquarters if he doesn't already.

  • @LordRaif
    @LordRaif 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I recall another part of the reason that the Dreamcast game sales flagged was because they had no read protection, meaning you could copy Dreamcast games via a conventional CD/RW drive, something that was becoming more and more common at least in American households at the time. Considering the US was their second largest market, it stands to reason that this huge piracy issue likely at least made a dent in their game sales (while not necessarily the console itself, for obvious reasons).

  • @Saturnfanboy
    @Saturnfanboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    "WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE ATARI JAGUAR"
    ... Does this mean that the Jaguar is responsible for the 32X's failure!?

    • @lazarushernandez5827
      @lazarushernandez5827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Nope, Sega's responsible for that.
      The Jaguar could be responsible for the failure that was the 32x.

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes, by causing the 32X to exist in the first place. 😂

  • @Velocity42
    @Velocity42 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Ahh, The Dreamcast...
    One of the greatest underrated consoles that have some of the amazing timeless classic games and has a unique use of the Internet capabilities with the Ethernet adapter, SEGA NET userbase, and Windows CE bulti-in.
    Sadly, games were easily pirated, you can't play DVD movies on there, and with the PlayStation 2 coming closer and closer to its launch day, SEGA has to close their console business and have to strictly be a third-party company in 2001.

    • @NinjaWeedle
      @NinjaWeedle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Piracy actually didn't play too big of a role.

    • @lindylou538
      @lindylou538 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Underrated"

  • @joshsweet7512
    @joshsweet7512 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    "Crown Jewel! the vmu..."
    *Stop Skeletons from Fighting has entered the chat*

  • @grklipss
    @grklipss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I have a special attachment to my dreamcast... first console i bought with my own money, i was like 10 or 11 yrs old... i love my dreamcast.

    • @raidthanfl
      @raidthanfl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here. I was 16, and bought it for re code veronica. Totally worth it

    • @s4tchm0j0n3s
      @s4tchm0j0n3s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@raidthanfl Same here. Worked weekends while at school to fund it. I was a big Soul Blade (Edge) fan on the PS1 and the first time I played Calibur....my god. I remember the viewer mode where you could just watch the CPU fighting and pan the camera round. I'd spend ages just on that watching in awe. Such a great console.

  • @Barakeh
    @Barakeh ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Man I got goosebumps knowing what Isao Okawa did, such a selfless man

  • @mr.sinjin-smyth
    @mr.sinjin-smyth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    The horrible reception of the previous Sega console (Saturn) kinda doomed the fate of the Dreamcast. Most of the Sega fan base had left for the PlayStation brand, despite the Dreamcast being quite innovative (ability to play online). Not to mention The PS2 was getting some huge sellers like GTA III and FFX.

    • @SeanStrife
      @SeanStrife 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah, the Saturn could definitely been seen as the beginning of the end for Sega as a console dev.

    • @lazarushernandez5827
      @lazarushernandez5827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Looking back, yeah, but at the time it wasn't that simple.
      Sega of Japan supported the Saturn right up until Sega called it quits in the hardware market. It was Sega of America's then VP/later CEO Bernie Stolar who cut off the Saturn at the knees in the U.S./western markets. In 1997 he announced that the Saturn wasn't their future, this basically caused many western devs working on Saturn titles to stop completely and/or move them to other platforms. It kept some of them away from the DC as well.
      Before then the Saturn was still getting regular games alongside the PSX (PS1), and it was still an attractive platform for publishers compared to the N64: that was cartridge based, Nintendo was responsible for the manufacture of those carts as well as the amount, they took longer to get to market than CDs, and Nintendo took home a bigger cut.
      Don't get me wrong, I agree that Sega made a lot of errors and mistakes with the Saturn and earlier hardware.
      The shame is all of those would come back to bite the DC which didn't deserve that.

    • @lazarushernandez5827
      @lazarushernandez5827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@SapphireSword-pd1ix At the time PS2 and Dreamcast had equivalent graphics, the thing is PS2 lasted so much longer that programmers learned to extract so much more out of it, compare games that launched on the PS2 to the last ones released for it.
      th-cam.com/video/y2foe-p2J6A/w-d-xo.html
      The full potential of the DC was never reached when it was out. While I don't think it would have matched some of the later PS2 titles, you would have seen an improvement in quality over time.
      Sega's decision to make the Saturn do both 2D and 3D has to do with the competition at the time. The Megadrive was beaten in Japan by the Super Famicom(SNES) and the PC-Engine(TG-16).
      NEC's follow up to the PC-Engine was the PC-FX which was 32 bit system that focused on 2D graphics. There was also the FM Towns/Marty that also focused on 2D graphics.These 2 may have influenced Sega's decision when developing the Saturn, although Sega should have known better considering they helped usher in 3D polygon games with Virtua Racing, Virtua Fighter etc...

    • @RetrOrigin
      @RetrOrigin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lazarushernandez5827 The hardware difference between the DC and PS2 is quite larger than most people like to admit.
      Also the DC was a lot easier to code for and even received sort of a hardware upgrade in the form of the Naomi 2 which still lacked many features found in PS2 developed games (lightsourcing for example still looks a lot more basic than even budget PS2 games)
      I don't think the difference between early DC games and later gen games would have been that big.
      Keep in mind the whole generational thing doesn't really apply to all consoles, look for example at a 1st gen game on the Gamecube like Rogue Squadron that already looks just as good as any later gen game. The same can be said about some OG XBOX games. It has a lot do with how well documented the hardware is, the development software available for it and the ease to code for it.
      That being said, hardware isn't everything and many "weaker" consoles have been able to survive just by relying on a decent library.

    • @theretronavigator
      @theretronavigator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@SeanStrife Sega of America got cut at the knees when they got the okay to do the 32X, being blindsided by the Japanese branch with the Saturn reveal.
      Hell, Sega of Japan fucked Sega of America constantly.

  • @a.jackson9613
    @a.jackson9613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I still have my Dreamcast and several of the games. I thought it was an amazing system that was unfortunately too short lived. NFL 2K, Virtua Tennis, Crazy Taxi, Skies of Arcadia, Phantasy Star Online, and Soul Calibur, which at the time was better than the arcade. The list goes on, but imo, it was a solid system.

  • @justanotheryoutubechannel
    @justanotheryoutubechannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    At the time, being worried about the Jaguar was understandable. It was 64 bit which was impressive for the time, and I think even though it’s hardware was buggy and needed more work it could power some great games when used properly, and although it eventually became a flop at the time it could’ve been really dangerous, unfortunately though it’s hardware was built for flat shading and gourad shading, and the next generation instantly moved onto texture polygons.

    • @nickh7777
      @nickh7777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ya but anyone with half a brain at the time would have realized that it all would've ended at 64 bit. Just like hmmm, Sony did, and Xbox did, and computers did, and Nintendo did

  • @RealHumanBeing276
    @RealHumanBeing276 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    if you're making What Happened on consoles now, remember OUYA?

    • @TSalispahic
      @TSalispahic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Real Human Being that would be awesome tbh

    • @maximillianlylat1589
      @maximillianlylat1589 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh god this would be perfect.

    • @alistair4909
      @alistair4909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Literally got beat by the Wii Mini XD

    • @alistair4909
      @alistair4909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Justin R that’s an interesting position. what kind of changes would you have made?

    • @alistair4909
      @alistair4909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Justin R I mean the software, optimization, the pace at which Tegra was evolving, and the cheap controller would still make it pretty pointless imo

  • @ContactM1ke
    @ContactM1ke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hats off to Isao Okawa

  • @otakuthegreat
    @otakuthegreat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Europe release date 14/10/99 (Since nobody brings it up)
    Still remember one of the adverts that had Robbie Williams "She's the one" playing in the background
    Didn't get one till years later (Friend bought it for me as a birthday present, his mum found out and was not happy yada yada yada) still love it to this day (got it modded to have the Katana dev kit boot vid too)
    Loved the video & the edits
    *Should've had a edit with Onslaught from MARVEL VS CAPCOM saying "The dream is dead!"
    R.I.P. Isao Okawa What a legend. You don't get businessmen like him anymore...

  • @Incubusnut
    @Incubusnut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE ATARI JAGUAR.” 😂🤣😂🤣

  • @neoevil
    @neoevil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    virtua fighter 4 on the ps2 was a huge part of my childhood

  • @Raishinshi
    @Raishinshi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Finally the "What Happened" that will make me cry

    • @atre5763
      @atre5763 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tears of joy you mean!

    • @Raishinshi
      @Raishinshi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@atre5763 Yes, tears of joy too, it was a great time with Dreamcast

    • @atre5763
      @atre5763 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Raishinshi uh no! I meant tears of joy for me because the Dreamcast failed, and it’s a shit console!

  • @drewforchic9083
    @drewforchic9083 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I actually had a Dreamcast as a kid! Still have it in a closet somewhere. We had two games for it: NHL 2K and SEGA Marine Fishing. They were both my dad's choice; I didn't (and still don't) care about hockey or fishing, but he didn't like video games and those were all he'd buy us. I barely used it, and a couple years I got a secondhand Gamecube and some good games that I loved and used constantly.

  • @wuztron
    @wuztron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nothing gives me more nostalgia vibes than the Dreamcast.

  • @edgardeitz2784
    @edgardeitz2784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    1) Explore new techniques in programming and such.
    2) Encourage the American and Japanese teams to work together and communicate more, or find a way to make them want to.
    3) USE THE 3DFX tech ANYWAY; this will also keep EA Games in your roster.
    4) Include a DVD player function
    5) redesign the Dreamcast controller; a better design will help...
    6) DO NOT release _early_; continue developing the Dreamcast properly, THEN release!
    7) ADAPT WITH THE TIMES!; learn from the successes and failures of your competitors, and develop more open world exploration games.
    If SEGA did this with the Dreamcast, maybe they might have fared better...

    • @shirubionicle
      @shirubionicle ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, don't discontinue the Saturn too early

  • @malixia3939
    @malixia3939 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Just seeing the title made me slightly sad. Thanks Matt! Stay safe, and thanks for all the vids!

  • @allhailjojo4708
    @allhailjojo4708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember finding a Sega Saturn in my grandmother’s garage as a kid (circa 2004). She had no idea where it even came from. The only game that worked for it was Area 51 and it always froze after about ten minutes of playing. My dad threw the whole thing out promptly afterward. I wish I had known at the time that I had found a real, lost piece of gaming history.

  • @christophergordon6250
    @christophergordon6250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sega really owes everything in their current situation to Isao. He literally saved Sega's asses and then waved the loan on his deathbed AND gave them his shares of his stock, as well.
    That's a classy guy, right there.

  • @magiman2382
    @magiman2382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I kinda want a Dreamcast now, do to the fact that Illbleed and Bluestinger is getting a cult classic vibe and that I want to pick up.

    • @JonVonBasslake
      @JonVonBasslake 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's not a bad little console, just be ready to either pay out of the nose for some games (same goes for the Saturn, maybe even more so) or go on the high seas...

    • @LordArikado
      @LordArikado 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If you're looking for more cult classics, don't forget Skies of Arcadia, Death Crimson OX, Seaman, Cannon Spike, Dynamite Cop, and L.O.L. Lack of Love.

    • @danielseth8272
      @danielseth8272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just bought a dreamcast from Gamestop online. It was 65.99 with free shipping. It can be extremely difficult to find certain games and others on like Amazon were asking $150.00 for used rare titles but you can still have a decent selection of games for 10.00-$50.00

    • @magiman2382
      @magiman2382 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mirandabeach is there any HDMI converter cables for the Dreamcast

    • @boldandbrash9447
      @boldandbrash9447 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They made a port of my fav Dreamcast games, Powerstone 1 and 2, on the PSP for what that's worth.

  • @Arro3
    @Arro3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I've heard this story a few times, and every time I facepalm. I didn't know about the huge company-saving loan at the end though, but it answers my question of how they even survived all of their blunders. It makes their continued indecisiveness with the Sonic franchise feel more disrespectful now though. You'd think they would notice that their lack of direction was what got them almost bankrupt and that they should maybe take a lot of time and care from now on. Thank goodness for Yakuza and the ports of older games. I assume Yakuza's still a niche game that probably doesn't make as much money as it should for how much effort is put in, but I feel like it's helping a lot.

    • @PScoopYT
      @PScoopYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yakuza was selling pretty well in Japan from what I heard. But recently the sales started to slow down by a lot for one reason or another.

    • @gebs123
      @gebs123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@PScoopYT Sales are probably slowing down, because they are pumping so many out. It feels like there has been a new Yakuza (or Yakuza like) game out every 6 months for the last 3 years.
      0, Kiwami, Kiwami 2, 6, Fist of the Yakuza Star. I think 7 is out. I loved the series, but I can't keep up and play other games.

  • @cadcTV
    @cadcTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    16:45 that... is simply incredible!

  • @justanotheryoutubechannel
    @justanotheryoutubechannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The controller wire on the bottom always confuses people, but I realised why they made that choice while playing the Dreamcast at my desk with it hooked up to my CRT monitor. They intended the console to support VGA output and be played on PC CRTs, and when you are playing it like that having the controller wire go down is convenient since when you are that close to the console the wire naturally goes down and then back up to the controller from underneath. When the controller is connected to the console under a TV at the other end of the room, having the cable underneath feels more awkward, but to be honest it makes very little difference either way.
    Also while I’m writing this you mentioned the cost of Shenmue, and I just want to say that that 50-70 million wasn’t just spent on Shenmue 1, it was spent on 2 as well. The two games were somewhat developed as one, and then split apart and continued as separate games. A lot of Shenmue 1’s prerelease materials actually showed Hong Kong and China from Shenmue 2.

  • @thomasnoh5149
    @thomasnoh5149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Isao died for Sega's sins

  • @MagicMaster667
    @MagicMaster667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The Half-Life port made for it was pretty rad actually!

    • @RetrOrigin
      @RetrOrigin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's impressive in one hand but also not great. There's way too much loading and it's just ackward to play with the DC controller.

  • @retroentertainment1340
    @retroentertainment1340 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:28 If you listen closely, you can hear Tom aka James Marsden’s scream reaction when he first sees Sonic in the Sonic movie.

  • @ZokWorks
    @ZokWorks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So the interesting thing about this to me is, for a while after they shut down production of sega dreamcast, I'm pretty sure a lot of people were under the impression that sega was actually going to go under.
    I was around 10 years old when I first heard that sega was going under. I was pretty sad about it cause I did really enjoy the dreamcast, and also pretty confused as to why sega games kept coming out thinking that they had bankrupted years prior.

  • @JoJoTalksTooMuch
    @JoJoTalksTooMuch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dang, I never heard of Isao Okawa until now, what an absolute legend.

  • @m3sneakerhead465
    @m3sneakerhead465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really didn’t expect to learn anything new, what with the hundreds of retro gaming vids I’ve viewed for the last decade on YT, but I was completely unaware that Sega only survived due to one mans philanthropy. Bravo.

  • @720jlconner
    @720jlconner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember buying a dreamcast during its launch and I was blown away with its graphics and online settings. Such a good launch line up

  • @SomeDumbKid1
    @SomeDumbKid1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God, those 90s commercials with the camera swinging around and the snap zooms actually make me physically ill.

  • @gamemax1049
    @gamemax1049 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A What Happun video about Cartoon Network's Fusionfall would be cool, that was a great game

  • @mspeter97
    @mspeter97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Honestly a Dreamcast powered by 3DFx Tech would have even been able to blow away the PS2 power wise and it might've helped SEGA stay relevent... oh well...
    In the end, at launch, the Dreamcast was still quite powerful compared to the PS1 & the N64. I'd even say that some games released both on the Dreamcast and PS2 ended up looking better on SEGA's machine.

    • @RetrOrigin
      @RetrOrigin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      From what I've read, one of the biggest limitations the DC has is the fact that the CLX2/PVR2 can only address its 8MB of VRAM. It has to have everything needed (polygon data, textures, etc...) on it ready before it starts rendering. The bandwidth of the bus that links the PVR2 to its VRAM is also slower than that of the PS2's (about 2 thirds) So developers were more limited in terms of what they could do (about 3 mil polygons per second and around 5MB worth of textures or so?)
      While PS2 only has 4MB of VRAM, it can hold offscreen texture data on main RAM and rely on it's fillrates to swap the contents of it's VRAM so it's not a hard limit (but I read it's also part of what made coding for the PS2 harder than other consoles).
      The PS2 also lacks hardware T&L but relies on VU1 for that leaving the EE free for other operations.
      It was also possible for developers to achieve similar or even better results to texture compression trough multi-texturing (one example is to utilize a low res color texture map and a B&W high res texture map containing luma information) And it is also possible to do bump-mapping trough multi-texturing (though this was also rarely used). Basically the PS2 seems like a very unconventional machine mainly targeting raw polygon power and not many features lol.
      PVR2 indeed had many nice features not present on PS2's GS like hardware bump-mapping, Anisotropic and trilinear filtering (which wasn't really used that much due to it requiring 2 triangle passes)
      Makes you wonder what could have happened if Sega had more time to further develop the DC and maybe include something similar to the ELAN co-processor the Naomi 2 has to handle T&L and maybe more VRAM or unified RAM.

  • @thomasdesposito
    @thomasdesposito 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This always saddened me so much, I have always been a diehard Sega fan since the master system days. I've had every system they put out including Sega CD, 32x, Saturn and finally the Dreamcast. Such a shame they didn't have more third party support, as the Dreamcast was a powerhouse under the hood.

  • @LNSLateNightSaturday
    @LNSLateNightSaturday 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    10:28 - Can I just say EA Exec Bing Gordon looks *exactly* like I picture all EA Executives and every person named "Bing"?

  • @X_Blake
    @X_Blake 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I wouldn’t mind them trying it again one last time.

    • @cnk9822
      @cnk9822 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      No, they still can get their shit right; they had the chance and they messed up

    • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
      @THENAMEISQUICKMAN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Their bank accounts would.

    • @00110000
      @00110000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And I wouldn't mind another Wha Happun video on it :)

  • @MountainHomeJerrel
    @MountainHomeJerrel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Another brilliant episode. Thanks dude. I didn't know development for the console was THAT tumultuous

  • @CookieCookGames
    @CookieCookGames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If sega weren’t practically bankrupt the Dreamcast could of had a full
    Life at the end of the day for it to sell 10 million units in only 18 months isn’t bad the Saturn sold about the same amount in 4 years

  • @jpart3526
    @jpart3526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This almost made me cry. Mainly because I grew up with the Genesis, and SEGA Channel introduced me to a lot of real SEGA classics.