I would say this sound generally accurate, if you trust my typing abilities. My ex bf, my dad, and my current bfs dad are all LSEs, and this describes them very accurately. I think is surprising just how friendly LSEs can be, because you expect a thinking dom feeling sugg type to be very monotone and rigid all the time. But with my experience, maybe its the Ne, they can be quite friendly and even humorous at times.
I'm glad. People often misunderstand LSEs because as you said thinking dom + Se demo, reality is they're not very similiar to SLEs in communication for example, they're much more friendly and just more easy going.
If you met LSE irl (or not) could you maybe explain more how Se manifests in them vs you? Can an LSE have the same endurance in a rough environment as an SLE? And how about ethical mistakes of Fi suggestive vs PolR. I assume that as a weak function, Fi would still create some interpersonal problems for them. I think making quasi identical comparison videos would be amazing especially since your analogies are funny 😂. Compilations of real life personalities (or even fictional characters ) and how the functions worked for them, actual manifestations of the functions would probably make your channel even more popular too.
LSEs come across as much more formal and polite, they're actually quite friendly people, not over the top but certainly pleasant, consistent energy. They don't value Se and from experience are not interested in power dynamics or controlling people, having power over others, to them, Se is just something they use when mobilizing people in their projects, pushing to achieve a goal, everything to them in the end is about the result (Te), Se demo is just going to be in the background. I am very informal, unaware of the psychological distance (Fi) makes me act in that way, i am much more abrasive. opened, much more energetic and explosive in terms of my expression while LSEs usually have a steady, calm, pleasant manifestation but never over the top. To me the focus are power dynamics, who is trying to push on whom? I'm much more focused on instilling my will on other people and enviroment, to me, being the biggest dog is the goal, that will make me prone to confrontations, aggression even if pragmatically, i'm not gaining anything, LSEs are not really interested in those things and again, they're primarily logical people who act and behave in a way that's rational, i'm also more impulsive than they are, if someone is trying to push me or go against me, i'm much more likely to jump into it head on and escalate the situation. Now in regards of Fi, to me Fi is smooth sailing because it's polr, i'm oblivious to it so i live my life peacefully lol, i would say i don't STRUGGLE with relations with people mainly because i just don't get emotionally attached to people much at all, a very out of sight out of mind mentality i have, the LSEs i know struggle with closeness, intimacy and attachment with people, they suck at it but it's something they try to get better at. I'd also say that i'm much less moral than LSEs.
@purplesyko4707 As an LSE, we are the definition of "Suaviter in modo. Fortiter in Res" (Latin = Soft in manner. Strong in deed). Another favorite phrase is, "Iron fist in a velvet glove." Anger, power, resilience, aggression, and dominance are all there but concealed with refinement and a cool "aristocratic" demeanor. Power enables us to get things done in the most efficient manner. Our expression is elegant, stoic, strict, formal, and self-possessed. The communication style is more urbane and intellectual than an SLE. Another difference is we use the F word more sparingly and judiciously than an SLE. We're not entirely against using the F word, but it's to convey a level of seriousness and gravity when we do. When I tell a client, "You're fucked," it means you are totally fucked beyond repair. There's no redemption.
@@Just_RustedYou remind me of my former boss who was once a corporate litigation attorney. People used to pay him $1000 just to write a "nasty letter" to intimidate the other guy threatening a lawsuit if he did not cease to do xyz. His nickname was "Steel Balls." He's a good guy, but not a "Nice Guy." If you shot at him with a BB gun, he'd retaliate by throwing a nuclear bomb at you. 💣 He's the definition of an ESTP SLE Type 8, Tritype 873 The Mover & The Shaker. He was forceful, ruthlessly pragmatic, and quick to anger, especially if you were slow (to understand) or stupid (willfully blind to see reality).
@@komald0103 Because tests are unreliable and should never be used for testing. augustaproject.wordpress.com/esi-description/ classicsocionics.wordpress.com/ The first link has type descriptions, that MIGHT give you a hint about your type
I would say this sound generally accurate, if you trust my typing abilities. My ex bf, my dad, and my current bfs dad are all LSEs, and this describes them very accurately. I think is surprising just how friendly LSEs can be, because you expect a thinking dom feeling sugg type to be very monotone and rigid all the time. But with my experience, maybe its the Ne, they can be quite friendly and even humorous at times.
I'm glad.
People often misunderstand LSEs because as you said thinking dom + Se demo, reality is they're not very similiar to SLEs in communication for example, they're much more friendly and just more easy going.
dude you're so fucking funny, i love the way you express yourself, i'm having such a great time listening to you :D
Thanks g appreciate it
I'm an ESTP LSE, let's do an interview sometime. I think it'd be interesting. Cheers
Same here!
you don’t meet LSEs in the typology community because they don’t care about this shit
Too busy having a life
If you met LSE irl (or not) could you maybe explain more how Se manifests in them vs you? Can an LSE have the same endurance in a rough environment as an SLE? And how about ethical mistakes of Fi suggestive vs PolR. I assume that as a weak function, Fi would still create some interpersonal problems for them. I think making quasi identical comparison videos would be amazing especially since your analogies are funny 😂. Compilations of real life personalities (or even fictional characters ) and how the functions worked for them, actual manifestations of the functions would probably make your channel even more popular too.
LSEs come across as much more formal and polite, they're actually quite friendly people, not over the top but certainly pleasant, consistent energy.
They don't value Se and from experience are not interested in power dynamics or controlling people, having power over others, to them, Se is just something they use when mobilizing people in their projects, pushing to achieve a goal, everything to them in the end is about the result (Te), Se demo is just going to be in the background.
I am very informal, unaware of the psychological distance (Fi) makes me act in that way, i am much more abrasive. opened, much more energetic and explosive in terms of my expression while LSEs usually have a steady, calm, pleasant manifestation but never over the top.
To me the focus are power dynamics, who is trying to push on whom? I'm much more focused on instilling my will on other people and enviroment, to me, being the biggest dog is the goal, that will make me prone to confrontations, aggression even if pragmatically, i'm not gaining anything, LSEs are not really interested in those things and again, they're primarily logical people who act and behave in a way that's rational, i'm also more impulsive than they are, if someone is trying to push me or go against me, i'm much more likely to jump into it head on and escalate the situation.
Now in regards of Fi, to me Fi is smooth sailing because it's polr, i'm oblivious to it so i live my life peacefully lol, i would say i don't STRUGGLE with relations with people mainly because i just don't get emotionally attached to people much at all, a very out of sight out of mind mentality i have, the LSEs i know struggle with closeness, intimacy and attachment with people, they suck at it but it's something they try to get better at.
I'd also say that i'm much less moral than LSEs.
@@Just_Rusted thanks a lot for the answers! Very much appreciated for taking your time with them.
@purplesyko4707 As an LSE, we are the definition of "Suaviter in modo. Fortiter in Res" (Latin = Soft in manner. Strong in deed). Another favorite phrase is, "Iron fist in a velvet glove." Anger, power, resilience, aggression, and dominance are all there but concealed with refinement and a cool "aristocratic" demeanor. Power enables us to get things done in the most efficient manner. Our expression is elegant, stoic, strict, formal, and self-possessed. The communication style is more urbane and intellectual than an SLE. Another difference is we use the F word more sparingly and judiciously than an SLE. We're not entirely against using the F word, but it's to convey a level of seriousness and gravity when we do. When I tell a client, "You're fucked," it means you are totally fucked beyond repair. There's no redemption.
@@Just_RustedYou remind me of my former boss who was once a corporate litigation attorney. People used to pay him $1000 just to write a "nasty letter" to intimidate the other guy threatening a lawsuit if he did not cease to do xyz. His nickname was "Steel Balls." He's a good guy, but not a "Nice Guy." If you shot at him with a BB gun, he'd retaliate by throwing a nuclear bomb at you. 💣 He's the definition of an ESTP SLE Type 8, Tritype 873 The Mover & The Shaker. He was forceful, ruthlessly pragmatic, and quick to anger, especially if you were slow (to understand) or stupid (willfully blind to see reality).
What enneagram subtypes work with LSE? (Out of question, but did you watch Shadowhunters?)
Sp3 being archetypal, Sp1, So1.
Never seen shadowhunters
🤙
are you LSE?
@@i.hate.flatearthers yes
@@tiny_lion8477 omg it's so hard to meet one that isn't a mistyped lsi in the socionics community.😭 i am so glad
@@i.hate.flatearthers wait that happens?
@@tiny_lion8477 yeah.
What enneagram subtypes could LSE be?
Sp3 being the best fit, basically archetypal, Sp1 happens, maybe So1
Can INFJ 5W4 be a LSE?
Never, there is no similiarity between those types.
LSE = ESTJ
LSE = Enneagram 1, SP3.
@Just_Rusted I'm an INFJ-a 5w4 and after answering 600 questions I got LSE and even I'm thinking how is that possible?
@@komald0103 Because tests are unreliable and should never be used for testing.
augustaproject.wordpress.com/esi-description/
classicsocionics.wordpress.com/
The first link has type descriptions, that MIGHT give you a hint about your type