MTG - Advanced Cube Construction 301 - Design And Upgrade Your Cube For Magic: The Gathering
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Advanced Cube Construction, a guide to Design theory and Upgrades strategy for Cube. When you first start building cubes, the focus is on individual cards, and individual colours. People usually start out by putting a bunch of cards that they own in a box and hoping for the best (albeit ensuring that there are an equal number of cards in each colour). Or they'll by constructing a "Best of Magic The Gathering" style list with all of the best cards ever printed. That's a fine way to start out, but where do we go from there?
This video will advanced concepts of designing and upgrading your cube. Please note: this video is on the advanced level, and meant for people who already familiar with cube, and likely have a basic cube of their own.
When you started your cube journey, cube was likely just about individual cards and individual colors. Your initial approach to your list may have been put together using broad brush strokes - “Blue is the Control Color”, “Red is the Aggro Color”, “Green is Ramp” - Perhaps you could show some stereotypical cards at this point, Counterspell, Goblin Guide, Llanowar Elves etc.
A great way to improve your cube is to start thinking about two color combinations. What do you want the two color combinations to do? Assuming you decide to build a typical cube where the cards are split evenly between all five colors, then the majority of the time your drafters will end up picking cards from two colors.
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This is an incredible video for Cube designers. The way to look at two-colour combinations is spot on. This is a fantastic way to build on a budget as well since you're more interested in supporting an archetype than just looking for the best, and very often, most expensive cards in each colour.
I think that The Professor should have you as a guest speaker on this subject.
Mrtfarrugia he has!
Ok. Must have missed that episode.
Mrtfarrugia Dies To Removal episode 6: Cube
Dies to Removal - MTG Video Podcast - Episode 6: Cube! With Milo!
Tolarian Community College Thanks. I'll check it out when I get a chance. :)
Hey Professor, do you, yourself, have a cube? Would love to see a breakdown of it if you do!
I am almost done with a red, white, and blue cube for my buddies today! I've never done a cube before so your videos are really helpful, thanks professor!
Tried following instructions; ended up with a tokens-only cube. I am okay with this.
***** I'm not gonna lie here.
That actually sounds pretty cool. A cube designed so that everything works based on tokens. No cards in the cube can be included if they don't involve tokens in some way.
Such a narrow theme is an interesting design strategy.
Made 2 cubes now... all thanks to you! Thanks!!
You are so right! I always ask my drafters what they liked, didn't like and what they are excited about from upcoming sets! The cards in your cube are only as fun as the number of times they get played and good times are had with them. :D
Loving that Bitterblossom art behind you Professor :)
Yes! I love Cube videos! Your beginners guide to Cube inspired me to build one myself and I've been looking to improve it. Thank you for this!
I also recommend looking at Core Set 2020 for 3-color set design. It's a mini-Tarkir.
I made a Scars of Mirrodin Block cube. Me and my friends have been having a blast with it.
Do you have a list of the cards in the cube? I'm interested it was one of my favorite blocks of all time.
So I finished my first cube about a week ago. Based on my playgroups' preferences, and the donations they were so kind as to provide, it is now a 5 color cube :D
You my good sir is one of the most underrated TH-camrs that showcases MTG.
I keep thinking what to do to improve my Casual experience w/o having to pay alot $$$ over time! CUBE! This format will never be boring, never ending fun with new cards coming each 2 months! Thank you very much. ^_^
Great video, Professor!
Your Cube video - the Cube for Beginners - inspired me to build a Peasant cube. It's a complete abomination, but I keep it on my CT account for the sentimental value.
Now I'm going to be building a Cube that's actually good fun to draft. 360 cards, not pauper or peasant. It's just a Cube built around decent, budget-ish cards that I can pick up around 10-15$ at most, along with some of my more expensive cards like Tasigur and Kolaghan's Command.
Seems like it'll be fun!
I just finished my Theros cube! thanks professor :)
After having built a Commander cube, I'm a little upset I didn't find this advice back when I needed it. I had a pretty intuitive sense of most of this stuff, but the specific advice is very good. Thanks anyway, professor; sad you couldn't save me from myself.
Our powered cube was thrown together and refined over the last year or so through many drafts ranging from 4-8-10 people. And it kicks ass! But we don't focus as much on certain archetypes as much as making sure every card is useful in different strategies and even late picks should help someone in that color. There is a LOT of mana fixing, and so 3 color decks tend to be played fairly often. Even a splash of a 4th or 5th color is not unheard of. It is a whopping 600 cards though...
This was awesome. Thank you! The workers at my local shop always make fun of my Unhinged/Unglued cube, but I think it is hilarious. I'm looking into making a more traditional cube and this video helped tremendously! I love your channel!
Only really played cube once. Drafted mono red. First-picked a Goblin Guide, relying on the only other red card in the pack, Stoke the Flames, to wheel. Was feeling very proud of my signalling skills 😊. Ende up beating everyone except the Sneak Attack combo player.
(But I played a bunch of extra games against them while we were waiting for the others to finish; they quit it when the stats were starting to tip in my favour 😁.)
First ever youtube comment, just want to say I love your work. You are so clear, precise and yet so informational and helpful. Thank you
I really enjoyed this video series, very helpful AND fun. Thanks dude in the bow tie!
i would love to see more videos about cube to help me with my own
Great video. Looking forward to more cube videos. Maybe review cube holders, ie cube mox buy ultra pro. Or cube vault.
Thank you.
I think my approach to my current (Proxied) Power Cube was to chuck in as many Eternal Combos as possible and bolster them with goodstuff, synergies and removal. Countertop, Bomberman, Splinter Twin, Abzan Melira Combos, Aluren Combos, Tinker Shenanigans, Sneak and Show type things, etc. were the first to go in, then I realised I should bolster the main combos with cards that play well with the combo and also close out games.
Thanks for this great video I’m trying to begin my cube journey and this was a really big help thanks professor
Very well put together. Great video. Thanks!
What happened to the intermediate video? Was it deemed to be no longer relevant for some reason or was it a problem with TH-cam's copyright system?
Love it prof, thanks for the hard work. Everyone should check out "is it worth it to buy a starter cube"
It's very common to suggest guild synergies when designing cubes, but the downside is that you limit the deck options for your players. "Well, I've been drafting green and white, so I guess I'm doing a token deck." And maybe that's fine for your playgroup; maybe people are perfectly happy doing the Rakdos aristrocrat deck this time, and the Boros aggro deck next time, and so on. But as a Johnny, I find I enjoy drafting so much better when there's interaction across the cube, and drafting two (or three) colors doesn't always mean playing the same way.
Similarly, "strictly better" on an individual card scale (#3 in your "upgrades and cutting" section) isn't the same thing as "strictly better" for a cube. Sure, the original Counterspell is going to be strictly better than any other counterspell. But Wash Away may be more interesting in a cube that has lots of flashback, disturb, and similar graveyard abilities. Besides, "strictly better" cards limit player drafting agency. You see it in a pack, so you draft it. There's no weighing of pros and cons, no determining how you can make an interesting strategy out of it, or any of that. It's always good, so it's always a card you should pick.
Cubes should always be designed thoughtfully, no question about it. But sometimes less is more, and overthinking/overdesigning a cube can result in an inferior outcome.
My cube has 40 copies of powerstone shard... allowing for easier Emrakul, Kozilek, and Ulamog casting. Also players start with 100 life.
It's here! CUBE CONSTRUCTION HYPE!
You are amazing professor keep up the great work!
so here are my 10 themes for my first cube
white black- lifegain
blue red- prowess
black green- graveyard
red white- small tokens
green blue- +1/+1 matters
white blue- flicker
blue black- zombies
black red- aggro
red green- land mechanics
green white- big tokens matter
anyone have any idea what I'm doing because I dont
I'm thinking about putting a cube together with some friends of mine. I was at a recent modern get together at the local card store and a friend had actually printed out a whole cube of star wars cards. He just put a bunch of mana cards in sleeves then printed out the star wars paper pieces and slid them in front of the mana. The cards were pretty funny if your into star wars. Han Solo has first strike. Greedo's effect is (all creatures have first strike against greedo) pretty funny
This was an excellent video! Well said!
I would love to build a MM cube but I am having a hard time finding lists of other cubes to help my journey even on cubetutor. What was a fun theme for a cube though was if Shards of Alara ran into Khans of Takir and then had a Reesies commercial style argument.
Blast from the past!!!
Maybe make more cube vidsos?
Professor, do you have a cube list on CubeTutor so that we may use as a template or starting point?
miko reyes Soon, soon. I actually want to put together a "College Cube" at some point.
@@TolarianCommunityCollege Me: *super late* Did you ever put one out there?
how about a video about casual draft variants?
Hey professor!, so I'm looking to build a cube, and as you said, 2 color themes are important, but maybe you can make a video on options for that?
You are great professor
Tolarian Community College How about a video on best sets for booster wars?! Not just new sets, but of all time!
I’ve personally approached cube through archetypes. I try to make sure each guild/shard has a strong archetype that wins games.
hey prof, love your stuff. Just trying to get some more information as i try something very new for me. my EDH/Commander playgroup has gotten stale as we have been playing with the same 8 decks for the last 4 years and are looking to expand our inventory to contain a commander cube. Have you tried the blend of eternal formats? any thoughts or suggestions moving forward would be great!
Make sure to use Scryfall for all card searching needs!
Professor, how do lands work in a cube? Do i include them in the drafting pool or keep them seperate like the basic lands?
You keep them seperate except nonbasic lands
Hey professor, great video. I'm using cube tutor as a starting off point for a pauper cube. How do you feel about multicolor cycle cards for balance ex Sootwalkers/Mudbrawler Raiders... Etc each have the same power/toughnesd same 4 converted mana cost, each can't be blocked by the creatures color foils. But certainly some are more beneficial than others. Or Llanowar Knight & Galina's Knight with pro black and red respectively. Would be better than Yavimaya Barbarian & Vodalian Zombie with pro blue and green. They're part of a cycle. Is the cycle itself unbalanced with what colors do enough to justify using just some of them? I'd really like opinions from anyone that took enough time to read this.
Thanks in advance.
I know that this is not related to cube at all, but I bought three DTK boosters and pulled two Narset the Transcendent.
Prof, we need a new in depth cube series.
Professor what do you think about cubes that exclude a color. In my case I really hate most white cards. Is it possible to make a balanced cube like that?
Dr.Necro Absolutely! In fact, Milo has a whole video over on his channel about a MONO BLUE cube. Yeah, I gotta build it.
Professor, could you do a magic product review series on planechase and archenemy?
Rip Cube Tutor, I’d like to quickly recommend Cube Cobra to anyone looking for a new platform to log their cube as spreadsheets are chaos
How do ti reat the contraptions from unstable in a cube.
I want do build my first cube from this set.
Any sugestions?
great vid.
Cube is fun, but I don't like changing my cube after I build it. So I built a "limited block" cube - core sets only cards. Since MtG discontinued core sets this lets my cube stay the same, while still having some very nice and powerful cards.
The only problem is that there is no multicolor cards, but the colors combine well.
LIke the Alpha Goblin Baloon Brigade I put in my Cube just for my friend who loves it.
thank you ben
I want to get into odeon but I just don't know what deck to build/ take...
What about building cubes for other card games like world of warcraft tcg kaijudo or duelmasters or yugioh
I neeeeeed to know the song in the background. Was my jammmmmmmmmmm years ago
Tolarian Community College Professor, could I first suggest adding a Patreon bump at the end of your videos? If nothing else, your channel is likely always growing, and there could be new folks coming by who don't know about it.
Second; Red/Green/Blue Mars stick out every time you do a video in your office. What did you think of them? I read the series recently and it's easily one of my favorite sci-fi stories, and maybe one of my favorite reads in the past 10 years.
Just watching this.
Hey proffesor ur awsome
Yay, new video!!
Very nice video prof, but why it took so long to produce? i thought you were going to do something huge , i'm not disappointed just confused.
***** There's actually going to be two more in addition to this. Chuckle. As I drafted mine, I also started talking with both Ben and Milo and they had some real expert advice that I wanted to include. As the conversations went on, my one advanced video turned into 3 advanced videos. So there were a lot of revisions and further questions from me, etc. So stay tuned, because there's a few more of these still being developed and soon to be posted.
Tolarian Community College Now I understand the delays you mentioned, haha.
Oh, you should have told us in the video.. thanks a lot ! will really help me and my friends build a good cube!
I'm doing a pauper cube and going off the list but have noticed that he or she hasn't updated for last 3 sets
Well, I'll have great time watching other people draft my cube.
Lemme see, an Aladdin's Ring here, that seven mana 5/5 there, a Didgeridoo with no minotaurs and an Eye of Ugin with no eldrazi.
Perfect.
Ben Jia Don't forget Tower of Calamities. Maybe a Sorrow's Path.
(As a side note, a 5/5 for 7 with no color restriction isn't the worst thing to happen ever, especially if the rest of the cube has a lower average P/T)
I want to build the "Strictly Worse" Cube, cause why use all the good cards in my cube when I can keep it balanced just as well with only bad cards? and it sounds like tons of fun having a game where the only way to win is by inventing a synergy where none exist or by slow beat-downs that have stupid ways to backfire at you.
Can you send me a link to it?
Good morning professor, and thank you for this cube video, it was quite helpful. I wanted to ask, would it be at all possible for you to show us some super cheap modern/vintage/legacy deck techs? I'm talking like under $75, under $50, etc. I have a younger brother, age of 12 who really wants to get into the modern scene, but doesn't exactly have the money to construct a tier 1 deck. Any info you provide will be helpful, as it usually is. Have a great day, sir.
If you can track down a copy of the Modern Event Deck, that's not a bad option.
Joseph Jacobs I believe that Tolarian has made a few budget decks. Also, in modern, generally the most expensive cards are the lands. So your brother could use the Khans lands or the Ravnica guild gates.
Joseph Jacobs If you want to make a budget deck, you should probably stay mono colored.
He likes mono green, does anyone have suggestions as far as that is concerned? his favorite card is mycoloth
Joseph Jacobs The Professor did a modern infect deck and mono green elves deck, with budget versions included in the videos.
I also love Mycoloth. ;)
RIP cube Tutor. What a site.
Since merfolk is your favorite deck would you mind making a 100-50$ budget deck cause I just can't afford it?it can be legacy or modern or whatever you prefer
Please and thank you
Or u/r delver budget or anything really budget would be nice in modern or legacy
does anyone here know of more advanced cube building resources?
I miss cube tutor 😢
I was expecting to need AutoCAD before i loaded up this video.
Is it just me, or did anyone else spot that hair a little to the right of the professor, when he was talking? At first I thought it was his own hair, but now I think it was just something stuck to the camera, or something...
I kinda needa sell my Cube, but that'll be a hassle.. :S
Professor,
For a junior level course this is not very advanced. I'm not saying that the information wasn't helpful. There just wasn't enough of it. Imagine if your English lectures were only 7 minutes. Even if you tried to condense a regular lecture and cut out any interaction between you and your students you couldn't do it in 7 minutes...
Product review videos are fine being short, but if you plan on actually teaching please be thorough.
Finally
my friend has a commander cube
Could you test my cube
instructions not clear built a mono red cube
2nd what what
"Advance" my arse
Funny that you mention "upgrading" to Dragon Hunter... I just cut him from my cube last week because I thought he was too narrow.
fyiicheckforspies Unless the cube has something going for Savanna Lion being a Cat (tribal synergy, or at least flavor with Ajani, Brimaz, etc.), then Dragon Hunter is strictly better if the cube has A. Some human or warrior theme or B. At least one dragon.
You could of course upgrade from Dragon Hunter to something else that better fits whatever your cube is doing.
(E.g. Accorder Paladin, Blade of the Sixth Pride, Daring Skyjek, Dromoka Warrior, Oreskos Swiftclaw, Spirit of the Labyrinth, Wandering Champion -- All of these are 2/1's for 1W , some with extra abilities, and some of which also happen to be cats)
Viron Darkstar Sorry but I'm not sure why you're comparing Dragon Hunter (a 2/1 for W) to a bunch of 3/1s for 1W. Maybe you're thinking of another card? I actually cut Dragon Hunter for Loam Lion.
fyiicheckforspies 1. Momentary lapse thinking the CMC was 2 for some reason. 2. Could still be fine coming out a turn later if the cube has a lot of good creatures with 3 toughness.