Deadliest Battles You Never Learned About
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- Unearth the forgotten and devastating battles of history! From the overlooked Battle of Wuhan to the tragic Fall of Tenochtitlan, discover the untold stories shaping our world.
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0:40 - Chapter 1 - Battle of wuhan
4:40 - Chapter 2 - Fall of tenochtilan
9:45 - Chapter 3 - Siege of athens & piraeus
12:40 - Chapter 4 - Siege of changchun
Gonna ask you again, please stop doing this. You are actively ruining the video. I don't know what mental disorder you have that makes you continue to do this when you have been asked dozens of times to stop being the asshole who spoils videos, but please seek therapy and/or medication instead of continuing to be a jerk.
Seriously. Why do you do this? If Simon wanted his videos to have chapters, he'd include them. Instead, you're always here, ruining the comments sections despite being begged to stop.
SERIOUSLY. ASSHOLE. PLEASE STOP.
And before you say something like "I'm autistic," so am I, I just tend to stop doing things people don't like when it's brought to my attention, especially when it happens repeatedly.
"War's tragedy is that it uses man's best to do man's worst." - Harry Emerson Fosdick
I lived in Wuhan back in 2015, they still celebrate the anniversary of the Battle of Wuhan and commemorate it with air raid sirens going off throughout the city. Very odd thing to hear in the middle of the day and my students didn't know the right words to tell me what it really was... China considers it the turning point of WWII, similar to the battle of Midway or D-Day in Europe.
Thank you for that detail - nothing better than first hand accounts.
I visited Shen Zen in 2004 (the first subway stop after Hong Kong) when I moonlighted as a photographer/graphic designer in the early days of on-line shopping (aka, before Amazon). I found the city AMAZING - spread out like Los Angeles. I liked the young people I met, and how they all seemed to be hustling to make a profit, to make their fortunes - even homeless people were trying to sell illegal DVDs. I was amazed at how we were stared at, because many Chinese NEVER see white people up close.
But I also know that the Chinese government is really horrible. Back then they didn't have social ID's and credits, but they at the core push their propaganda. There's no bad news and no porn on their internet. They believed they won the Vietnamese War (I committed a minor faux pax at dinner one night when I talked about War movies).
All said, I had an overall positive experience with the people - not so much the government.
when one thinks about it, Japan could not have won a war with China in the long run. In 1937, China's population was 7 times the size of Japan's. A prolonged campaign in China would have bled Japan dry of men and later on when the US declared war and brought its considerable industrial capacity to bear, they were guaranteed to lose. Considering that China went back to fighting its civil war for a further 4 years after the Japanese surrender, and the losses that entailed, is bloody evidence of the remaining manpower that existed on the mainland.
D-Day is hardly considered a turning point, more like the beggining of the liberation of western Europe
@@maximilianodelriosure the Nazis already had their days counted but was a turning point, it could have very well failed
@maximilianodelrio It's the beginning of something changing, which makes it a turning point by definition.
Germany losing the Failaise Pocket and Operation Overlord caused them to strike 8 armies off the roster. That's 4 times as many as Stalingrad... That's how devastating it was.
Simon should make a channel about all of Simons channels.
He did, it's called Megaprojects
A directory would be nice.
@@DaisyAzuras a Simon Whistler directory sounds fantastic! Wonder how many channels he actually still narrates? (because he gave on one that I know of)
He doesn’t make videos that long.
The Rape of Nanking is a horrific event that should never be forgotten.
Nothing but respect for all those brave souls who fought valiantly and gave up their lives for something greater than themselves.
Another battle that should be remembered as one of the bloodiest in history was the Battle of Watling Street (61 AD). After suffering abuses by the Roman Empire, including forced taxation, flogging in front of her whole village, and the rapes of her daughters, Queen Boudica of the Iceni gathered together a great host of disaffected Britons to attack Roman settlements at Camulodunum and Londinium, with the aforementioned event proving to be a bloodbath as all of the city's citizens were forced to seek shelter in the Temple of Jupiter and were massacred at the holy site. In turn, Governor Gaius Suetonius Paulinus ordered for two of his legions to act quickly in suppressing the revolt. the first of these, the IX, was understrength at 2,000 infantry and 200 cavalry and, when Boudica launched a successful ambush of the unit, all but the cavalry were killed. The other legion's general refused his order, which would ultimately lead to his demise as he committed suicide. Paulinus was able to gather one and a half legions to his command, with auxiliaries and refugees bringing his army to 10,000 men. Paulinus then selected a location whereby his few men could make a stand, a place which no was knows where it was. However, what was known about it was that Paulinus had selected a natural bottleneck, with a road at his center and his flanks covered by nearly impenetrable forests. Boudica's horde had as many as 80 to 100,000 warriors, with many women and children accompanying them in wagons. Her forces launched a frontal assault against the Roman defensive line, but were repulsed and when they tried to reform, found the wagons in their rear had been arranged in a kind of wall, blocking many from escaping. At best estimates, the Romans did lose as many as 1,000 soldiers but were able to inflict tens of thousands of casualties upon the Britons and caused Boudica to commit suicide along with her two daughters.
Pretty sure you'll find it at Bioraphics Boudicca 💜
There's not solid proof she existed. Historians are split on the issue. Some actually require evidence.....some don't (cultists/"religious" types).
@@gomahklawm4446 Her existence is very much solid historical fact so I have no idea why do you doubt that she existed.
@@gomahklawm4446 I am not saying there isn't room for argument when it comes to Boudica, but to say you're just a fanatic if you believe anything historical that cant be proven 100% is just idiotic. Very few things can be proven to be true and some things by their very nature are impossible to quantify or prove to any degree such as the impact of moral on the battlefield and which side has more and why. My point is, feel free to make an argument as to why you think Boudica's revolt never happened, or that it did, but it was lead by someone else, or that it did happen but was led by someone else and probably happened in a very different way, or perhaps there good reason to believe that certain aspects of the story were fabricated because this person benefits greatly by the official version of the story, and give reasons to suggest that you are more likely to be correct. Don't just say, oh well that's just a story and you cant actually prove that it happened that way so you are just a fanatic if you think there is any truth to it.
Dang bro
Love the channel, keep it up 👍
Maybe someday you'll do a video on the Metis rebellion in Canada. I think it's a nuanced topic that still has ramifications for modern Canada.
Happy new year Simon
Oh Lord Almighty have mercy, the intern that makes the thumbnails discovered MidJourney.
Love Your Channel!
It never ceases to amaze me just how much history is not taught to us. The history most people know is so cherry picked that it's not even funny. Thank you so much for bringing this to us and in such an interesting way! Love all of your channels Simon!
The cynical historian has some great content on little known military conflicts.
youtube.com/@CynicalHistorian?feature=shared
If people spent more time learning than commenting on educational videos that they haven't watched or learnt anything from Simon would be about ten pence a week worse off.
Unfortunately history education has continually been cut in many western nations and it’s importance just as disregarded. I hope that one day everyone can have some form of interest in history and that it can be taught in schools the way it should be
@@samuelgarrod8327 Talking about yourself?
@@wuhanclan In which respect to my comment?
The Aztec history is so interesting!! Thank you, Simon and team!
Sad that The Battle of Schrute Farms didn't make the list...
Great videos
last time I was this early, we were at war
and we still are sadly
Good job, oversll, but you repeat the outdated legend that the Aztecs mistook Cortez for a deity. Camilla Townsend in her groundbreaking "The Fifht Sun" has comprehensively debunked that theory. It originated with Aztec writers two generations after the conquest who couldn't make sense of the collapse of their empire. In reality, the volatile situation in the Cuenca de Mexico and the Spanish military strength (no, not horses and firearms, steel armour and steel swords) that made a direct confrontation risky. The Tlaxcalans had realized this after one day of battle when they managed to stop the Spaniards but lost on average ten warriors for one Spaniard killed. Hence their alliance with Cortez. Hence Moctezumas hesitation to risk losing too many warriors whom he needed to maintain the empire. Far more plausible than the deity legend.
Thank you, was about to say this
I should not believe you, because according to lord Whistler none of us has ever learned about it.
There's also the issue of the word supposedly often used to refer to the Spanish: "tueles." This word is often interpreted as meaning "god" or "deity." In reality, it was a corruption of the Nahuatl word "teotl," which itself came from the Totonac through the Maya and most likely meant something more along the lines of "inhuman."
Later Christian writers in the region also seem to have collated the coming of Cortes and the Spanish with the Aztec legend of the semi-mythical king Te Acatl Topiltzin Quetzalcoatl. This is likely due in part to Cortes' arrival in the year One Reed, which is what the calendrical portion of the kings name, "Te Acatl," refers to, as well as the king's association with the White Tezcatlipoca, the god Quetzalcoatl.
Whether the writers did this intentionally, to frame Cortes and the Spanish as saviors, or unintentionally in an attempt to understand how their empire fell apart so quickly and dramatically, I'm not sure we can say. What we can say, however, is that the Aztecs absolutely did not believe Cortes to be a god.
Moctezuma knew that their vassals hate the aztecs. And probably feared they would eventually would allied with the new players. He was wise ruler that tried the best for his people.
@@r.ladaria135The Aztecs were the Sparta of the Americas, holding half a dozen smaller states in slavery, and dedicating a lot of effort to keeping it that way.
That's always a vulnerable position, and a foreign invader with better weapons would be a worst-case scenario for _anyone._
They were imperialist, religious maniacs. The Spanish and the Aztecs both.
Great vid
What’s with everyone suggesting videos that Simon has already done? The emu war? Done. Taiping rebellion? Done. Siege of leningrad? Done. Y’all just be blurting ideas out n have no idea he’s already done it..
Whats with the ai art thumbnail?
If you want content on youtube a channel that is constantly making ad revenue and any revenue harder to get, then you shouldn't chastise a creator for using the tools at his disposal.
Did you want to draw it? No let a computer
Having a tool doesn't mean you have to use it, that'd be mental. I knew about everything that is talked about here so it's a bullshit video title and an even more bullshit thumbnail.
What do you mean? There were Harrier/Yak-38 hybrids, people wearing weird bicycle helmets and floaty tanks during the invation of Normandy.... Right?
What about it? It's perfectly fine for the title of the video. Battles we've never heard of probably don't have much media covering them. A thumbnail is always edited. AI diminished nothing.
More than 3 times as many died in the siege of Leningrad than in the siege of Stalingrad. The Soviets admitted to 1,900,000 casualties but deliberately suppressed the actual numbers of 2,800,000 Soviet civilians and 3,436,000 military casualties, the Germans had virtually 0 civilian casualties and 580,000 military casualties. The Soviet casualties were much higher than the figures they gave and would have caused political problems in the USSR if the actual figures were divulged. The USSR in just 5 months at Leningrad had many times the total US casualties suffered in the entire war in both theaters)
Can Ubisoft make an Aztec AC game already! Literally all I want to do is walk around the Aztec world. If there’s one thing Ubisoft can do it’s make a very beautiful and mostly historically accurate game world. Fighting conquistadors or having dual protagonists on both sides would be awesome!
Anyone know if there are an English copies of the White Snow Red blood book? Other than this video the only reference in English I’m picking up is an article in Seattle from 1990
I guess I'll be the dick who corrects the date: in 1549, Cortez had been dead since '47 from dysentery. He arrived on the mainland and founded Veracruz in 1519.
I score 2/3 as I've known for decades that WW2 started in 1937 , including the atrocities of Nanking, and also Cortez' story. Neil Young wrote a song about him.
Two questions.
1. Where'd you get that suit jacket from? I really like it.
2. Who's the terrifying apparition in the background at @15:55!?
Some other battles i can think of
Battle of Maritsa - 800 Ottoman Cav defeats a much greater force
Night Attack at Targoviste - Wallachians fail to assassinate Mehmed Ii but were able to inflict massive casualties
Battle of Cartagena de Indias - British fail to capture coastal forts and suffer lost of casualties
Battle of Zapote Bridge - Succesful Filipino ambush armed with mostly melee
Battle of Tigranocerta - Outnumbered Romans were able to 'collapse the Armenian Army under its own weight' with livht casualties
Wow! I am an ardent student of WW2 with many a title read. You have shown me there is still more out there!!! Thank you!!!
More needs to be said about Cortez's plot armor.
One mostly unknown battle took place at river Frigidus in 394 A.D. it was the battle which broke the Western Part of the Roman empire, most of the Western field troops were destroyed by the Eastern Roman army. The troops of the Western empire never recovered from this defeat, about ten to twelve years later the Rhine border defence collapsed and Britain was abandoned.
Thank you for shining a light on the "forgotten ally", China. Who lost lost nearly 15 million people and started fighting the Japanese 4 years before the US
What about the Great Australian Emu war fought at Drop Bear Ridge
It's been done (a couple of times) on other of his channels 💜 🇦🇺
Already done.
Time to learn from Professor Simon Whistle
for ww1 i would say the siege of przemysl the longest siege of ww1 most people probably wouldn't have heard of it.
2:10 Wuhan is on Yangtze River not Yellow.
How many channels does this man have?
How many do you want? Simon Whistler has a channel for nearly everything, and if he doesn't, I am sure he will take your suggestion.
Aw brilliant Simon...and I suppose the rest of the rest of the team that make it possible 😂
4:41 Cortes landed in 1549!? Some typo errors here, I think. Cortes landed in 1519, I think.
Also, I didn't know that Wuhan was along the Yellow river...
Never is rather impossible to beat.
I am Greek and had no idea about that battle in Athens. I didn't even know that 200.000 people lived there. Seemed a little bit extreme number compared to what I have learnt.
Cortes landed in 1519, not 1549!
Why don’t you do a story about all the things that the US done for China during the 1900’s. You could talk about stuff like the money given in aid and the help during World War Two.
How about a video on the Flying Tigers in China?
You didn't do the "Fall of Tenochtilan" justice - the fighting for the city was long and grueling, going from street to street with cannon and demolishing every structure. The city was surrounded and blockaded, the populace starved to death, eating ground up brick dust and their leather belts. All traces of the Aztec culture were destroyed, from temples to books. Only 12 of their books are known to have survived the "cleansing" and that is a hotly debated subject, with only 2 of the books being definitively from before the invasion. When the city eventually surrendered the remain populace was enslaved and forcefully converted to Catholicism. What convinced the Aztecs that the Spanish were not gods was the way they kept "mistreating" the women.
That is also inaccurate. Due to the work of Las Casas, enslaving indigenous people was, by and large, forbidden. Moctezumas family became Spanish nobility, alongside the higher Aztec nobility. Parts of the city continued to be inhabited by indigenous people with a degree of autonomy. Things only got worse when Philipp II followed Charles V who had been more sympathetic to indigenous rights - see the famous dialogues of Tordesillas about indigenous rights. Needless to say, nothing of the sort ever happened in Britain when she colonized North America, indigenous rights were of no interest, and protestant churches by and large didn't care for them either - they never produced a Las Casas
After realizing what happens when you leave people alive to become insurgents, I finally understand why expensive wartime massacres occur at all.
As you go back further in history, massacres of civilians were commonplace. The 'spoils of war', a complete degeneracy of humanity.
I.P. Daley
Kinda surprised this isn't on Warographics...
Love watching your channels when working but the audio editing on recent videos has been awful, unless there's been mic issues of course but it just sounds like badly applied compression.
0:27 - "Today, we're going to look at 5 of them." But there are only 4 chapters. 🤔
Update your website and let us know why you're no longer hosting some of your channels, please.
A video has been made on it.
Odd that this would go out on Sideprojects and not say... Warographics
He owns Sideprojects, not warographics. He's not on the "graphics" channels anymore
Some of your dates and geography are slightly off :p. No shade just worth double checking.
It's not hard to understand why the Central/southern North Americans may have been receptive to Cortes, when you consider that their overlords had Gods who demanded human sacrifice for their glory and he brought with him stories of a God who gave his only son as a sacrifice to forgive human sin. Pretty sure I'd be receptive to that message given the alternative.
But, I will never not enjoy the graphic novel adaptation of Montezuma's Daughter in the Look and Learn folders I was gifted as a young boy. Mr Haggard knew how to tell a story.
Being the "Second" Sino-Japanese War it's hardly "unprecedented".
Victors choose what stories to tell
Has this guy been Knighted yet?
We can talk about the battle of London too Simon…it’s okay little buddy…
2:22 ...we may not be that familiar with this specific crime against their own himanity, but the people of China remember and remain ghoulishly aware of what extents it's givernment, regardless of those in charge, is willing to go to in or to win or just not lose. There's no patriotic pride in that.
I mean, it’s not really new to China at all. Catastrophic wars is like their calling card since like 500 BC. Wasn’t there a siege in the 750’s where an entire city of >30 thousand was literally cannibalized solely for the purpose of bleeding out the rebels?
I mean... its expected the Communist Chinese government would and will massacre their own people if it serves their purposes.
Tiananmen Square happened. It was a massacre. The CCP cant lie about it and say it never happened.
Rest in peace to those that passed away.
Going Concern is a country…citizens will understand…
I'm not sure, but wasn't Wuhan labelled as 'The Stalingrad of the East'?
As if hearing about these massacres of innocents isnt bad enough, I always find it more disturbing when countries such as China try and erase them from history.
The first Sino Japanese war can be considered as the beginning of the WW2 as Japanese were condemned in the United Nations for it occupation of Manchuria
You mean the "League of Nations". The UN did not exist until the end of WWII.
@@williestyle35 We had our own efforts to support the Chinese
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“tenoshitsland” 😂
The Taiping Rebellion of 1850s/60s killed 30 million but is just a footnote.
It wasn't the fighting so much as the aftermath, where the Manchu authorities depopulated entire provinces by killing all the inhabitants..
Okay, once you eat leather and grass, you have like four days left, so I doubt they wrote about it much, da?
"These more popular ones." Popular battles. Not sure if that adjective is appropriate.
By popular,he means well known
@@J.B.29 Probably, but famous would be a more appropriate adjective. So methinks.
Popular with military history buffs.
Nanjing? It’s known as Nanking here
The AI picture is just weird and brings down this channel a bit
China blowing up that dam reminds me of when honey bees kill giant wasps that enter their hive by vibrating and raising their body temperature until it kills the wasp aswell as a few of the bees. but it’s a sacrifice they’re more than willing to make
Also bugs
The second sino Japanese war should be considered part of WWII
Same with Holodomor
@@leighz1962
Not really. Russian atrocities in Ukraine were barely noticed on the international arena and most journalists were fooled by the soviet's Potemkin villages. Killing soviet citizens was an internal matter.
That thumbnail is so cursed, lol
Its great lol
Why is this man the face of so many youtube channels yet I can't think the name of a specific channel of his? Flawless huh?
The Battle of Singapore ?
Is already well known
Simon, you misrepresented the Aztec thing. It's a very complicated toppic but i suggest dj peach cobbler's 3 video's on it (+-2-2,5 HOURS) for a more in depth and informed explanation.
Love your video's tho
Funny seeing all the "don't use AI" comments. Most people are against AI because of the whole skipping paying an artis part. But that's very much not the case here.
Simon (who didn't make the thumbnail, by the way) paid for the editing/thumbnail, there's no issue here. But sure, let's bitch and complain about someone using the avaliable tools to do a job!
For me it's not about the artist in this case, it's just that the image is horribly wrong
I'm also against AI art because it's shite. Just look at it.
Eh Simon paid for it and put his name on the video... quicker and cheaper I understand, but it's really awful "art"
@MosoKaiser So is most "art" drawn by humans these days....
@@gomahklawm4446 Of course, and probably always has been, Sturgeon's law and everything, but at least there's the possibility of being new shit. By comparison, all AI does is rehash existing material it's been fed.
In my (Dutch) education I've extensively covered these historical events. It's intriguing to revisit the fundamentals of these battles and observe the emphasis or omission of certain details in the video, providing insight into the inherent biases in the narrative you've presented here.
No pompous phrasing can hide the lack of substantiation in your post.
Don’t overlook the fact that Mao & the Communists were not nearly as
Formidable in fighting the Japanese as the Nationalists
On Purpose
That’s why they won the Civil War
Anyone else hear “Teno-shitland” instead of Tenochtitlán?
Perhaps an appropriate name, depending on the prevailing weather.
The American Philippines war isn’t well known
Lets gooo
Wow, not even getting past the ad just stopped to comment on how shit the ai thumbnail is 😂
Didn't realize we had soo many pansies for fellow veiwers😅 Daaaayuumn..🤣
One thing is sure, we don't have to worry ai will replace aerospace engineers soon 😂
Probably it will be the last class of workers it will ever replace. Aerospace is no small deal.
Aww the perpetuation of anti Spanish myth. It wasn't a dance festival. Alvarado and his men witnessed human sacrifice, the stench of death from the large pyramid in their nostrils. That is why they attacked.
Why the AI thumbnail?
The Korean War.
The easiest way to manage your money is to take it one step at a time and not worry about being perfect😊
After meeting Mr James in the United States, my life changed completely. Yours can change too, it's just a matter of commitment and focus.
Sir, this is a Wendy's
Ten-o-shit-land?
The ai thumbnail is cognitive dissonance fuel. Video, perfect as always
Tenochtitlan is pronounced "teh-NOKCH-teet-laan"
Was
I was in a fire fight in iraq once, a week later inwas home on r and r when i saw my fire fight on the news. They said the iraq army fought it. They were hiding at a check point when we did everything. Yea, stories u will never hear
trust Wuhan to continue to make history
tennos shitland?
The communist continued their war against the Nationalist during WW2 Please don't down play Mao's duplicity . His one good order was the protection of U.S. Airmen
What in the fresh AI drug addled hell is this thumbnail, ffs.
Using AI art in thumbnails seems lazy
Some of your Aztec stuff wasn't accurate.
Could you elaborate, please? I'm genuinely curious:)
What a butthurt about the thumbnail lol
They all modern. A better list: Siege of Baghdad by the Mongolias 1258, Battle of Yarmuk, Red chilfs threekingdoms, CaCao Vs Shou Battle (forgot the name), Chanpang, Han Vs Shoungluo/Huns, Qin Invation of Zhou and Qin Invation of Chu , Final Atla Battle against Rome, Rome invation of Carthage, Persia Invation of Athen.
Most of those are pretty well known battles or conflicts though.