Britain's Bloodiest Battle - TOWTON - A Historian Reacts
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Yorkshire and Lancashire still "fight" every year...each county choses 11 "champions" to fight the 4 day duel ......a cricket match! (Yes it's called the Roses match)
Yorkshire vs Lancashire Rugby?
I know it’s been said before, but this channel is so great cuz he’s so genuine and you can tell he acc cares about history. Love your videos man!
I appreciate that!
The thing I always remember about the Battle of Towton is that the Lancastrians were pushed back into the river, where some were killed by the Yorkists, some drowned and others trampled each other to death, and because so many were killed the river was said to have run red with blood for several days afterwards.
You remember!!
There's a lot of kings and generals videos we should discuss.
Their 30 years war series is my personal favorite because it's an area of history I'm not as familiar with that I have grown to become SUPER interested in. But I would be satisfied seeing Vlogging react to any of their videos.
@@ktvindicare Anything with the Byzantines grabs my attention.
I love that channel
@@ktvindicare yes! I must have watched that series 3 times and every time I learn and understand just a bit more. So many interesting characters, switching sides and shifting military and political realities. Wish there were more videos about that war.
Kings and Generals is a fantastic channel, and love your content man! Keep it up!
The best channel on TH-cam for historical content in my opinion.
Kings and Generals just uploaded a video that you might be interested in. They are starting a Soviet-Afghan War series.
Love to see you reacting to Kings and Generals, it's one of my absolute favorite channels on YT for over 5 years at this point. Pretty much any series of theirs that you watch, and you'll have struck gold.
I particularly recommend the Third Crusade series, but that's because I love Richard the Lionheart. The 30 Years War series is really great also, as is the more Ancient History stuff.
This brings me back to my GCSE stuff about the war of the Roses lmao. I love your reactions you don't just sit there and watch. You give extra context to it and put your own twist on it which makes the videos interesting to watch
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For something you may not be familiar with, recommend Kings and Generals: Battle of Kulikovo. Which is about the death of Ozbek Khan and wars that followed.
While this battle didn't actually feature any use of artillery, it does demonstrate what the actual use of artillery was for much of history: Having a weapon that can out-range the enemy (or if he also has it, outgun him at that range) means you can force him to attack your position, rather than the other way around. Military texts from the early modern era make this point with regards to artillery. Thus it was a tactical asset even if it wasn't powerful nor numerous enough to really kill much.
If you would like to check out channels that focus on Medieval content, might I suggest: Shadiversity, Metatron, SandRhoman History, Invicta, and Scholagladiatoria. Also, a channel that I greatly enjoy but only has a little Medieval content (at present) is: The Historian’s Craft.
Captivating Clifford anecdote. Dynastic conflicts are always fascinating and impenetrably complex. Especially the scions of the great Edward III. I disagree slightly though about the creation of royal dukedoms. Edward’s move was a skillful strategic move to centralize royal domains into the ruling family, and also one entirely uncommon for the time. The Plantagenets were, like any great dynasty, essentially a “family firm”. I don’t think we can point too much blame at Edward III for what was essentially something out of his mere mortal hands: How could he predict the turmoil after his death? I would say the seeds blew up solely because of the disastrous political impotence of Henry VI. Dan Jones makes this point in his brilliant epic on the Wars of the Roses. A medieval kingdom simply cannot function without a strong king.
What a bloody morass Towton. Estimates range from 1%-2% of the entire English population in 1461 took part (varying estimates put the overall population at just under 3 million).
Congratulations on another marvelous video
The Cliffords were also the family that supplied the mistress (Rosamund Clifford) who allegedly drove the final wedge between Henry II and Eleanor Aquitaine, leading her to rebel against him in 1173.
@@SRosenberg203 Goodly Fair Rosamund, as Henry II referred to her. It would be nice to find a comprehensive video over him. He has the best claim to to be the greatest English king, with Edward III coming in a close second. Henry’s achievements and tumultuous family are stories well worth the telling.
@@CommonSwindler I agree, I think Henry II definitely was England's greatest King, above Edward III, if only because the failures of John to keep his realm intact had nothing to do with any of Henry's decisions, whereas Edward III's decisions to make his sons Dukes directly contributed to the near-collapse of the kingdom a generation later.
There's a really enjoyable book series by Sharon Kay Penamn, about Henry II: the first one is about the Anarchy, called _When Christ and His Saints Slept_ and the second covers his marriage with Eleanor (the good years) and his conflicts with Becket, where the third book covers his wars with his sons and eventual death. Though it's not as good as her series about the Welsh Princes and Simon de Montfort, called _Here Be Dragons._
@@SRosenberg203 I don’t believe the dukedoms were an intrinsically bad policy. It is impossible to predict what may come after one’s own policies, or more importantly, what incompetent hands those policies may fall into. The dukedoms weren’t a problem under Henry V, and the kingdom worked as efficiently as it had in Edward’s heyday. Again, I say, it was not the dukedoms or bastard feudalism that were the primary causes of the Wars of the Roses... it was the uniquely calamitous personality of Henry VI that nearly destroyed the English state.
20:33 I have always been fascinated by the Wars of the Roses. When I started researching my family history in-depth, my interest became more personal, as I found out that I am either descended from or closely related to most of the major players (which makes sense, as the whole conflict was a giant, runaway extended family squabble).
I have stayed at a castle near York/Leeds called Hazelwood castle, this castle is over 900 years old and is even referenced in The Doomsday Book. This castle overlooks the Battlefield of Towton. The castle itself is magnificent, it has original fixtures and has also been modernised to become a hotel, which isn't ideal but the owners really look after the place and keep its rich history alive.
This was a great video, I love learning about the history of England in the 13 & 1400s; I love watching your reaction videos because you help me understand the video better, this was EXCELLENT
Churchill's "A History of the English Speaking People" is a great primer for this and, of course, other eras British history.
I live near the location of the Battle of Roundway Down, which was one of the key battles in the English Civil War, and the site of the largest cavalry victory of the war :)
My local towns getting some love here, Pontefract and Ferrybridge, Castleford just out of shot there which is my hometown
I was born in leicester and grew up in a small village called ravenstone, and there was a road called "standard hill" leading up into the neighbouring village of hugglescote, and local legend has it that standard hill was where the last standard of the battle of boswroth was raised
King and generals is probably one of the best channels related to history
The Lancastrian arrows fell short against the wind, while the Yorkists were assisted by it. The Lancastrians were forced into retreat to their right, down a deep slope into the Cork Beck stream, which was in flood because of the weather. Many drowned trying to cross the stream, with many others being cut down there.
The river was said to have run red with blood. The Nevilles & Percies had a long running feud over control of the northern borderlands & the Dukedom of Westmoreland.
Many of the most important battles in English/British history have taken place along the route of the Great North Road, the main route from south to north through the country, & often near to the city of York. These include Maiserfeld, & Winwood, in the 7th century, Heathfield, in the same era, Towton, in 1461,Marston Moor in 1642, Heavenfield, by Hadrian's Wall, etc etc. Even Stamford Bridge & Hastings in 1066 are at either end of this road, & Flodden & Stirling Bridge extend it further north into Scotland.
You should check out some videos on the English Civil Wars
When you visit Towton you should see Clifford’s Tower in York.
I grew up about 10 miles from Towton yet we never learnt about it at school. Never learnt about the Harrying of the North either and that had an even bigger impact on the area.
Dynastic struggles don't convey a nationalist message, so they tend to get ignored by educators in Britain, where the teaching of history seems intended to imbue the population with national pride based on winning wars and battles against other countries.
25:55 every advantage? Well, prove me wrong but the Yorks have probably (one of) the best commander during this period on their side, Lord Fauconberg the earl of Kent.
It’s actually he who reconizes the advantage of the wind and places his troops in the tailwind.
And to support my opinion, look at how the tactical manouvers of the Nevilles drop in level after his death. I strongly believe he was responsible for most of Warwicks fame.
I live about 5 miles from Towton, the battlefield is great👍, strange to walk there and think of the lives lost
Been there. Battlefield is still very easy to see. Bloody meadow and the cock beck, the plateau, the dip, the road which marks where the Marsh started, the fall to Saxton, its all still there. The beck looked so harmless when I went there.
12:36 In France, it was ended by Philippe Auguste after the battle of Bouvines. When he started to reign, the lords were stronger than the king but after Bouvines, he became the stronger one so every lord had to obey him for real. That's one thing that never happened in England.
Great stuff, would be interesting if you could react to the English/British Civil Wars, the trial of King Charles I, and the Protectorate - thanks!
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Being from the UK i've been to Towton, crazy to think that 2 percent of Englands population was there
It couldn't have been as many as Hall says because they wouldn't have been able to find enough food to eat on the march. The Lancastrians had already plundered the land a few weeks before. Edward II marched to bannockburn with only enough food for 2 weeks and he was supplied by sea. He took a large army for the time; 14,000 troops.
Yes. Elizabeth Windsor is the Duchess of Lancaster. She also the Duchess of Normandy which now only is comprised of the Channel Islands. Charles Windsor is the Duke of Cornwall.
A video series idea could be with permission about viewer family trees and significant events their ancestors played a vital part in and the history of it
React to as many Kings and Generals videos as you can.
My parents used to live quite close to the battlefield and we would sometimes go there for walks. It definitely doesn’t seem like the sort of place where potentially 60-80k men slogged it out in a bloody battle.
Great video, I live about twenty minutes drive from Towton
"A relative of mine..." EVERYONE DRINK! "...died..." EVERYONE DRINK TWICE!
The two people who down-voted the video were Lancastrians. :P
I've played rugby at Knottingley, just next to Ferrybridge
Say what you will about the Tudors, they definitely learned the lessons of the Wars of the Roses. Especially Henry VIII who was a stickler for his nobles and their retainers all holding their loyalty to him and him alone. Mind you, it had been made easier by the fact that the wars kind of killed off most of the nobility, so that the Tudors could install their own people into the positions.
Realy happy to see the video made my day
just to let you know both sides were told no quarter given it was a fight to the death,i have walked the battle field twice and the place where most of the lancastrians were routed was in a valley called the cock beck which was swollen after weeks of rain and on the day a snow storm most of the lancastrians drowned trying to cross it armour weighing them down. bodies piled up as they fled the field,it was said that beck ran red with blood, percies white sides were cornered but edward left instructions no quarter to be given
and they were slain. you mentioned you had great ancester clifford one of the cliffords would have fought at towton and another
clifford was hung in chains in york from a tower which to this day is called cliffords tower.skipton castle which is intact was the
residence of anne clifford stalwart of the clifford family the castle can be visited which is lived in by a private owner it is well worth
a visit i can recommend it.take care mate from a yorky.
The war of the roses is the backbone to George R R Martins Game of Thrones book series though as he
expanded his world he brought in many other events in world history to use as his inspirations.....
I’ve been doing family genealogy in the past year, and I found one branch that goes all the way back to William the Conqueror. On that branch is a 17th great grandfather who was killed at Towton. His son and son in law were later beheaded by Edward IV for some shenanigans and potentially for siding with Warwick and Queen Margaret.
The 17th great was Sir Lionel de Welles (speaking of Knights of the Garter, he was one). I just found out a few weeks ago that, through his second wife, he was the stepfather of Margaret Beaufort, mother of Henry VII!
Over years of studying medieval history, I have found two women of that period to be really amazing-Eleanor of Aquitaine and Margaret Beaufort. It’s only now doing my genealogy that I find I am connected to both of them!
You should check out Historia Civilis' channel. He covers the final years of the Roman Republic in detail with a focus on not only Cesar's "adventures", but the politics of the senate as well. He is really good at simplifying complex political concepts by visual aid and analogies, check him out!
Love your videous! Could you do a reaction to the Romanian Revolution?
Cant wait fpr a video about the battle of Issus, where you tell us about your ancestors who fought for Alexander the Great :D
I'm really a fan of yours for a long time now. I hope some day you'll react to a video about brazilian history. We have a very rich national history that you really would like to know about like our Monarchy and the Paraguayan War or our participants in the WW2.
Congrats from Rio, Brazil!!!
Imagine what the Plantagenets could have Achieved if they hadn't been Conducting a Family Feud? The Most Powerful Combined Arms Force in Europe Wasted on a Feud.
These troops lost the war in France. The feud can be seen as being the only opportunity for the nobles to gain more lands, as France was lost.
Unfortunate fact we do have a tendency to like a good fight, don't mind where.
Definetly react to more videos from them
I'm really excited to see your advice on getting started with your family history! Hopefully, you can include how to research family history in eastern Europe as well because a lot of my ancestry comes from Russia!
I thought it was interesting that both York and Lancaster are the most distant regions of England seen from London.
But them being close to the border with Scotland makes sense. In Germany you had the Marken and in Russia the Krais, which are special types of counties that are allowed to maintain larger personal armies and get considerable tax benefits because they have the duty to always be ready to defend the border. This of course makes those Margraves and such very powerful.
In my opinion, if Henry VI was at the least a competent king, not a good one, but even just an average to below average one, I'm not convinced the Wars of the Roses would've happened. I know a large part of it occurred due to how those around Henry VI were managing England in his stead, and not necessarily in response to Henry VI himself, but he basically enabled all of this by his abysmal reign. I know his struggle with mental health is out of his control, though, and I don't want to be harsh in casting blame on him for that. Nonetheless, it's very fascinating history.
You should look at some of Historia Civilis' videos on Rome and Extra Credit's Videos on Justinian.
Artillery was in use before this. Henry V used artillery during the siege of Harfleur and I believe the first English casualty at Agincourt was an archer hit by a cannon ball.
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Just drove through there today! A beautiful place
I think it would be really interesting to get a perspective by an expert in medieval English politics on the 16th century history of Japan.
I think there's a great amount of parallels between Japan and England and Germany.
When you have already seen the vidieo but the he reacts to it :))))))))
Ever thought about doing videos on sir John Franklin’s doomed expedtion?
Definitely something we can look at down the road. I was a big fan of the show the Terror.
@@VloggingThroughHistory same here. The expedtion is a historians dream as you most likely know the sense of mystery slowly being solved
The winter wat from kings and general is great
Vlogging Through History can you do the battle of Plassey by kings and generals
Continuing on from what you were saying about Her Majesty being Duke of Lancaster, she is also the Duke of Normandy too...
The duchy of Normandy was returned to the French with the 1259 Treaty of Paris, and the English have never claimed that title since.
@@onwingsofshadow yes. But as part of the very same treat the French King relinquished his claim on the Islands. So in the channel Islands Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth is the Duke of Normandy. As the Islands are the last remaining parts of Normandy that are part of the English Monarchy
As a battle this was really large. But i think other wars like the 30 years war had a much bigger impact on the population - even if the battles itself were smaller
Kings and generals is excellent
I'm sorry, I can't watch this video without seeing all of the parallels in Song of Ice and Fire (Game of Thrones) George RR. Martin copied history almost exactly then just made it fantasy and called it a day lol. Still an amazing piece of fantasy literature, but it just goes to illustrate just how interesting ACTUAL history really is.
He always said that the War of the Roses was a huge inspiration for ASOIAF.
@@11mousa I never said he didn't but seeing a documetary on the actual conflict..... lol it's just too hard to separate the fantasy from the reality.
My ancestor Richard Neville (Earl of Warwick) fought in this battle.
Wait the battle of Watling street had big numbers in total of combatants and casualties. up to 80,400 casualties.
Very interested to find out you are related to the Clifford's! When you come to the UK, will you be going to see Skipton Castle in Yorkshire? Highly recommended.
It's called a prism refraction of light.
It's still funny to me that in south eastern Pennsylvania two big cities, 30 miles from each other... connected... is Lancaster and York.
I’d assume that was intentional, but I could be wrong.
Oh, congratulations for the 60k subs, now for the 100k n.n
It was awful at Towton. The skeletons they examined showed signs of torture.
I know you probably have a lot scheduled but I suggest history bombs they do quick videos on general history of wars and other things
Imagine the Devastation if Towton had been Fought in Dry conditions, Sure Archers Carried Half a Dozen Spare Strings under their Hats, But would that be enough for an All Day Battle in a Blizzard? I suspect Towton like Wakefield has been Buried in Tudor and Shakespearean Propaganda
It seems like Henry VI gets captured every few battles 🤣🤣🤣
Was there no fight or battle from Richard 2? He just got punked out of power? Haha
Interesting how many conflicts stem from armies being loyal to something other than the kingdom/country.
Rome had all kinds of problems because their military were essentially paid by and thus loyal to their general.
The US revolution is as bad as it is because most at that time being loyal to state over the union.
Then here it's because military are loyal to their direct lords more than the king.
This war inspired Game of Thrones
I think you should watch ‘Who Would Be King of America if George Washington has been made a monarch’ by useful charts
29:02 and than the winged hurrars arrive
sorry i couln't resist
I live less than ten miles away. My knowledge of this is minimal. In fact, I only heard about it for the first time about 6 months ago, from another TH-cam video.
Kings and generals have great videos, looking forward to more reactions. Also try these series on extra history I think you would enjoy them :)
Imjin War (Japanese invasion of Korea during the 16th century)
Sengoku Jidia (100 years of civil war in Japan)
Justinian and Theodora of the Byzantine Empire.
(There is this channel called the shogunate which produce videos exclusively in Japanese history since the 10th century I believe I can't remember but his videos are amazing).
I may be wrong but I don’t think he’s an expert on japanese history
@@josepabloceniceros3483 You mean the historian or The Shogunate?
unsure what the best (free) way to contact you so i'll leave a comment on your Twitter as well. But of you're looking for some more historical battles to react to try Baz Battles. They're only an episode long but provide a lot of setup and some aftermath.
Very interesting video. Don’t know much about the War of the Roses, except where I’m originally from is York, PA and when the baseball team from York plays the team from Lancaster(pronounced Langkister LOL) they call it the war of the roses.
I’m stoked you’re going to be doing tips and tricks for family research. That is one subject I was hoping you would do videos about. I’ve been doing my own family tree research for my family and my wife’s family for a few years now and seem to hit a dead end sometimes. Can’t wait to see what you have to share!
You should watch Gustavus Adolphus - Breitenfeld 1631 - 30 YEARS' WAR DOCUMENTARY by the same youtuber
I have been enjoying your videos. I have been wondering, what you think of overly
Interesting to find out you have English ancestory curious at what point that branch's off to your American routes wonder if you have any one who served in the British army.
Wanted to suggest to react on their videos after seeing the 100 years war reaction to EH, but their videos are more battle & tactics oriented...
Yeah I call it the Cousin war too.
I would really like to use that offer of u to look up some family history, I will send an e-mail soon! :D
Hey history do you have any advice for studying history when u r still a kid
You should watch the video he did of the aribe Israeli war of 1967
Ayyy 60k
Kings and Generals is great. React to more. He has a ton.
War of the Roses. Invented by Shakespeare. Famous playwright and Tudor propagandist.
When you do your videos on family trees Can you say some of the most famous people you are related to.