The West Wing 222 - Two Cathedrals - President Bartlet shouts at God
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The cathedral scene from "Two Cathedrals" after Mrs. Landingham's funeral, when the President gives God a piece of his mind.
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"Have I displeased you, you feckless thug?"...gives me goosebumps every time. How Martin Sheen didn't win an Emmy for The West Wing is something I will never understand.
Damn this whole time I thought he was saying “affectless” lmao
This should have won him the emmy.
He was always deserving of an Emmy for this show, especially this scene.
One of the best scenes ever on TV. Sheen being a devout catholic, played this perfectly, his Latin was masterfful.
There should be a People's on going Vote! Never expires for best acting in whatever.
If you were wondering what he says in Latin:
Gratias tibi ago, Domine *Thank you Lord*.
Aec credam a Deo pio, a Deo iusto, a Deo scito?
*Am I believe these are the works of a righteous God? A Just God? A Wise God?*
Cruciatus in crucem.
*To hell with your punishments!*
Trus in terra servus, nuntius fui, officium perfeci.
*I was your servant on earth, your messenger. I did my Duty*
Cruciatus in crucem. Eas in crucem
*To hell with your punishments! Crucify **_yourself_**.*
In other words: "F you, God." And who among us hasn't said that at least once?
@@stephaniegittinger7980 True. But have you ever been so pissed of at God you basically tell him to go fuck himself in Latin without using profanity
@@leelawrie6976 nope.
Then you're young. Give it time. PS--He understands.
@@stephaniegittinger7980 Hasa Diga Eebowai!
"What was Josh Lyman? A warning shot? That was my son. What did I ever do to yours..."
*choked sob*
That one line just chocks me up every single time, god he was just brilliant and I just loved how much he really loved Josh.
CptCasey crucified him
Well, first off humanity did kill Jesus, so there's that. But nice try West Wing writers.
But what did Jed Bartlett do?
Humanity might have, President Bartlett did not.
God, his voice when he says "that was my son"...tears. Every time.
I hope you've come to regret this
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 n...no?? are you okay
@@qisforcucumber No
The most real, most honest portrayal of faith I've ever seen on television. Absolutely breathtaking.
Cathy Schmathy Really dumb.
This is funny, because it's actually someone losing their faith. Did you miss the cigarette? The only thing he didn't do was spit.
The latin:
“Am I really to believe that these are the acts of a loving God? A just God? A wise God?” Bartlet exclaims. “To hell with your punishments. I was your servant here on Earth. And I spread your word and I did your work. To hell with your punishments. To hell with you."
@@goronful4969 He's not losing his faith. He's just angry at God, as many of the faithful often are. Why does God let bad things happen to good people? It's the hardest question our religion has.
@@Karthos1000 "It's the hardest question our religion has." It's not so hard after all. Whoever is responsible for all this clearly isn't too interested in their little "life" experiment anymore... and I can't blame them :P
You have a strange perspective of faith
"Do you know when we lost Texas?"
"When you learned to speak Latin?"
"Go figure."
If we ACTUALLY had a president like this. We would be the greatest country in the world.
I think about that often
Too bad a person like that doesn’t exist
We did. His own party drove him to drop out today.
@danbennett1005 I'm sorry but no. He was a very decent person and an ok president, but he's way too old. You can see the cognitive decline at this point.
If we actually had a president like this, we'd be a threat to *GOD* Himself.
It doesn't matter if you're religious or not, you cannot deny the power of this scene. Martin Sheen was brilliant!!
I think this scene is honestly a depiction of a deeper spiritual connection than most Catholics would care to admit. When inner frustrations against the workings of the universe take hold, we try to divert it to the littlest things...the people we think annoy us to our limits, the amount of time we supposedly lack, and the ruling of authority which adds weight upon weight. Sometimes, if festered long enough, the fear we harbor at lashing out in front of others turns into fear of expressing yourself or trusting them at all. President B may not hold an ultimate judgement of his beliefs at this moment, but it is a crucial moment for him to ask "why?" and "what am I supposed to do now?".
Michael Byrne All men doubt. It's what Jesus died on the cross to prove. It's what made God's forgiveness possible.
+Thomas Thedoubter If you don't sin then Jesus died for nothing.
+Jacob Hillenbrand All men sin, too.
lifesaver72 Really dumb scene.
martin sheen is a beast of an actor! top notch
Can he be president? They did it with Reagan after all...
***** If this show had come out 5 years later, there'd have been a reality show after it ended, where the entire cast tried to actually run the West Wing for a presidential term. And I would have watched it.
Zerosum19 He's said he couldn't be the President because he's a pacifist and he believes that the President needs to be willing to use military force when necessary.
I can see that... But he'd be good nonetheless haha.
as should be clear by now, ANYBODY can be president. :(
One thing I love about this scene is the fact that the character in question isn’t your average man. Just the opposite, he is a man with real, tangible power. Arguably more power then anyone else in the world, yet even he, in the face of such deep personal tragedy, can do nothing except look up at the sky and ask “Why?” Just like all of us.
WHY he didn't win an EMMY for this scene is beyond me!!! He is AMAZING!!!
nancy kanellas He did!
“What was Josh Lyman, a warning shot? That was my son.” Breaks my heart every time
I fucking love this entire episode; another example of what a powerful actor Martin Sheen is.
GMenAllDay521 And Aaron Sorkin's writing.
And he NEVER won an Emmy. WTF was the Emmy awards thinking.
It shocked me - rocked me to my core. Some of the most breathtaking dialogue I've ever heard - still to this do it knocks me to my knees. Who hasn't had this moment with the Maker?
Why I love this scene so much is because it’s probably one of the best depictions of a devout man having a true crisis of faith.
I’m not religious, but this dialogue is so good because you can relate to how Bartlett is feeling in this moment. To devote your whole life to something, and because of one mistake you see the threads begin to unravel. Was it worth it? Was I ever worthy or was I just using this thing as an armor to shield myself from the truth?
This is why Aaron Sorkin is one of the greatest modern day writers.
"You cannot conceive, nor can I of the appalling strangeness of the mercy of God"-Graham Greene, Brighton Rock (1938)
I don't know whose ass he was kissing, I just think you're vindictive.
Such a powerful scene...I'd put it on the top ten moments of the show, easily. What a great series.
I have on my top favorite episodes of any TV program, ever. Also, when Henry Blake dies and Radar salutes him...I am getting weepy right now...
this is god awful looool
@@jzenhenko why are you here?
I think he's just saying what most of us feel and think from time to time.
Still gives me chills. One of my favorite serious scenes in this show.
'You feckless thug'. Nail in the coffin, that one.
Without doubt one of Martin Sheen's finest performances.. quite literally sublime
I'd rank this one right up there with Al Pacino's turn at the opposite of the religious spectrum(in The Devil's Advocate) as one of the two greatest performance in the history of film in general.
I wish this show was still on the air :(
I partially agree but another side says the show ran its course and better end it a season early than a season late. Bartlet"s term had to run out at some point. The writing and actors on this were hall of fame caliber! Loved this damn show!
One of the most epic monologues I know and delivered beautifully!
A scene going through my mind all day today ... the most powerful moment to culminate perhaps the finest season of a show ever aired on television. Still gives me chills.
The only problem with this scene is that it is incomplete. There is another scene later where the President is alone in the Oval Office, where the phrase "give me numbers" comes into play. You can't focus on this scene's downward spiral without showing the start of the rise.
Of course, to show that scene,you need to see another. Eventually, it comes to the point that you need to see the entire episode as a whole in order to get the full effect. Definitely one of my favorite episodes!
I watched this with my family and this episode struck me hard...now I am older and boy have I felt mad at God. So many good people aren't with me. I lost my home. Lost family. I mean it felt as if it was one thing after another. Still, Ive come out the other side choosing God. I choose Him but I don't think I'll ever understand Him. No judgement for any other religion but this scene right here...to sob and scream in a church...
I dunno if he got an emmy for this scene, but if he didn't, it's fucking criminal.
+Grady Klein He never got an emmy for the entire show.
It was for this episode that the producers submitted his name for Emmy consideration that season. While he was nominated as Lead Actor, it's a travesty that he didn't win. A friend of mine was an extra in this episode; she was one of the reporters at the subsequent press conference. She said it would have been a grueling and tedious experience, except that Martin Sheen would come over and talk with them while new camera shots were being set up, etc. And they were all blown away when he sat down and had lunch with them, telling many anecdotes but also asking questions about >their< lives.
when i first saw that scene years ago i cheered, yes you tell him, great writing great acting as human being we all felt weather we admitted or not our love hate relationship with god
This is easily one of the most memorable and most moving episodes of television ever created.
Hearing Martin Sheen speak Latin is therapeutic
"That was my *son*". I can't.
This is why I absolutely adore the West Wing. Scenes like this where you just sit, watch and think damn, that is acting like none I've seen.
This scene by far the best.
An incredibly talented actor, under appreciating and under used but well always remember the variety of characters she played and how well she did so.
RIP 20/6/1939 - 02/06/2012
Do not stand at my grave and weep
I am not there; I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow,
I am the diamond glints on snow,
I am the sun on ripened grain,
I am the gentle autumn rain.
When you awaken in the morning's hush
I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circled flight.
I am the soft stars that shine at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry,
I am not there; I did not die
Recited by Katheryn Jooston (Mrs Landingham) in desperate housewives.
I have always thought this was one of the most powerful moments on television
At the end of a West Wing marathon, at 2am, with a pizza, a fridge of beers and a best mate...there is NOTHING better than this coming along. Wow. Stunned.
Its the squashed cigarette that nails this scene...well that and feckless thug.
There are no words to describe the beauty of this scene.
Excellent performance, and one of the best moments in this fine series. Good job Bartlett.
Gives me goosebumps every time.
2020!! Bravo. I loved this show. SHEEN
God I love this scence. Great acting. The emotions that Sheen portrays are so real and convincing
I had a moment where I was like this after my uncle’s father died of covid after he called his son telling him he wanted to go home and he couldn’t see his father in Mexico as it would mean he couldn’t return to his family in the US. It’s happening again after my uncle on my mother’s side died of cancer after praying to God that he help him with his health. I was angry with him after he treated my mother poorly when they were little, but he loved me and my brother so much and was present in our lives than my uncle on my brother’s side who met me when I was a baby and hasn’t even met my little brother.
0:34 when his voice almost breaks as he calls Josh his son...
One doesn't have to have seen what transpires before this to get this scene, but it certainly helps explain Bartlett's anger-Mrs. Langingham was the person who helped him become the person he became, and was loyal to him every step of the way. She even lost her children in service to their country. And for all that, she got killed by a drunk driver. So you can understand why Bartlett felt like giving God a piece of his mind..
Wonderful piece of acting
Two things get me...his conversation in Latin and Bartlett nearly hissing "YOU GET HOYNES!"
The best 3:00 in network television.
This was the only time you hear about the ship in that storm from the previous episode, you don't realize that sailor he was talking to died after that episode ends. That, I found jarring and some amazing writing. I don't agree with a lot of politics of this show, but I will always consider West Wing to have had the greatest writing in TV history.
...gives me goosebumps every time I see it...
The first time I watched this video, I had no idea who The President was referring to when he said, "She bought her first new car and you hit her with a drunk driver." I imagined he was referring to his daughter, someone young. Then I watched the videos about Landingham's interactions with The President when they were both younger. And it occurred to me just who he was talking about.
same i thought it's zoey
Makes me cry everytime. Even more so today! RIP Kathryn :(
Fantastic camera work and directing. Of course Martin Sheen was great in this scene.
I remember the shock of hearing him call God a "feckless thug." It resonated and ached so deep - it still does. How long, oh Lord. Say his name: George Lloyd. And all the names over all this time.
I assume Laura meant George Floyd?
If he is truly all powerful than he can stop it. If such things still happen it is only with his blessing, and as Voltaire said "Every man is guilty of the good he did not do"
One of the best episodes of TV ever, period.
If only there was a way to get Martin Sheen to run for president!
You know i think i remember back in early 2000 someone ran a poll of G.Bush vs Bartlet and Bartlet won the poll.
mgsimba1 Check that i meant late 2000 after the election.
There was a poll taken in 1999, Sheen won the presidency with 70% of the vote.
10% of Americans surveyed while "The West Wing" was on thought Martin Sheen WAS President. Perhaps that's the underlying reason why you are faced with a terrible choice: Trump or Clinton.
Top 2 of my favorite scenes in the entire series. HANDS DOWN!!!! :))))
Awesome.This scene right here is one of the greatest in television history.
RIP Mrs. Landingham.
She shell be miss
One my favorite scene
And god subjects that pain, even though he supposedly knows how it feels, upon others without justification or regret.
Watch the bit where Landingham's ghost chides him for blaming god for crashing cars later in this episode.
Fantastic scene
this episode was the only use of Latin I took in HS, was so worth it, best scene ever
Thank you!
How did he not win an Emmy?
I recently lost a close family member to COVID-19, he died today in the morning. After I prayed to god that he helped him beat the disease, and I feel exactly like Martin Sheen in this scene. I feel so much anger and disrespect for asking and pleading to God to help him survive, and he just took him away from us and his son.
I am so sorry. I've stood in a church and screamed at the almighty for the loss of friends and family. I truly hope it gets better for you. I know I still have that anger.
Understandable.
Great Show and a Great Scene.
I felt very similars feelings for a similar lost few months ago. This scene is as real as strong.
Magistral
Thank you
The thing about this scene that I most love is thinking of a janitor coming across that cigarette like “what?”
And if God took away every misery , every pain, then tell me - how would be become stronger in ourselves, never having dealt with that pain in the first place, how would we know the difference between good and evil, God having taken away all evil. We would be empty automatons, knowing nothing of our selves and mans capability.
few can curse out god and really mean it..
When can we elect this fictional president as an actual president?
this guy has the benefit of scriptwriters on his side who can literally shape his world, not gonna have that when you transpose him to the real world.
@@scottmatheson3346 it was a joke 💀
We did. Donald Trump
@@rogermansour6085 You mean the pedophile, serial criminal and convicted rapist?
@@rogermansour6085 some combination of Romney and Obama likely, but defintely not the circus barker stuck in 80s, nice try
Sometimes Aaron swings for the bleachers in a distant city.
Thanks! It makes a lot more sense, now. :)
I felt compelled to watch this scene again after I learned of Kathryn Joosten's death. I think this reflects how many fans might be feeling today.
Tell that cloud man
So much of this scene makes me think of Joe Biden and the death of his son. I can clearly picture him saying "You get Clinton" Oh what could have been....
Tyler Lewis Your comment hit me like, wow.... I never thought of that...
There's your average religious people, your deeply religious people, then there's guys who talk to God in his own language.
Latin is technically the language of the Catholic Church, not necessarily that of God.
One of my favorite shows of that series - I often think about that cigarette in the church. . .
He was trying to decide if he was going to run again for a 2nd term. He means at this point that he decided against it. Thank goodness he changed his mind later..
Agreed!!! Great scene...
Goodbye Mrs. Landingham.
Thanks - subbed.
Damn.
He is good
well said
Pretty sure this is the best scene in the whole show.
Bartlett was like Job
Happy birthday Martin Sheen
He was nominated for Emmy Awards (2000-2004, 2006) but miraculously never won. He was nominated for Golden Globes (2000-2004) and even then he only won once. Hard to believe.
I wish I could just trot out Latin like that.
Hoynes was the Vice President, who was your typical politician.
To the cross with you!!!!!!
"You get Hoynes"... and we got Trump. Right now Hoynes doesn't look so bad.
Thank God for Martin Sheen.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
He was too nominated. For the 2001 Emmy in the category of Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series.
shame that only 181,820 people in this wide world know tv
I will go back and listen to the alternate audio track on the DVD but I am pretty sure they didn't have an issue with the scene.
Everyone do something for me right now. Follow these instructions very carefully.
1. Pause this video.
2. Open a new tab.
3. Open "No Church in the Wild"
4. Play both at the same time.
5. Be amazed.
Could really use some subtitles here.