The underground bits of the Northern City line give me the creeps. It's like some dystopian version of LU and it always looks abandoned. Never seems to be busy either.
If i'm not mistaken, there is an abandoned platform 7 at norwood junction, and if you look very closely down the line to east croydon, you can see light poles with NSE colours on it.
I don't have pictures yet but the some driver's stop car marks still have a small NSE logo on them, including the 12 car mark on the up platform at Northfleet, Kent
Fareham, near Portsmouth, has an old Engineers' Shed with the NSE logo on it, just opposite platform 1. It isn't on station land, and can be seen behind some fencing.
Most of the white train car stop boards on platforms out of Marylebone are old NSE infrastructure with a thin blue sticker covering the NSE stripe at the bottom of the sign, there are a few stations where the sticker has been peeled away and you can see the grey, red and blue logo.
I've seen a Network SouthEast livery AND branded Class 86 in Willesden Traction Maintenance Depot in 2013, but not sure where it is now, Purley Oaks also has a tall NSE sign on the entrance and finally Selhurst Depot has a NSE container on the line coming from Norwood Junction.
Folkestone East station has not been open for years . You pass it on the train between Folkestone central and Dover priory. It still has the logo on the Station sign on the platform and has NSE benches and lamp posts. A few stations I've been at like Tonbridge and Orpington still have the old NSE flapper board clocks but painted in blue but the red paint is still visible underneath. Also I've seen NSE painted lamp posts at Farningham Road and bromley South.
I went through Marylebone last month (Nov 2018), and the NSE branding we see here (ticket office, etc), is still in situ. The station features some attractive “period detail” - presumably Chiltern Railways wanted to offer more than one period?
Seven Kings Platform 4 has a large NSE logo in the bricks on the platform surface (slightly mangled by odd bricks having been replaced with wrong colours, but still clearly recognisable)
The Wimbledon Loop Line has non-functioning NSE permit to travel machines at stations past Wimbledon (e.g. Morden South, Wimbledon Chase), don't know if there are any machines at Haydons Road, Tooting and there aren't any at Wimbledon as far as I know...
4:52 It's kinda endless, board parking sign, no parking signs, way out signs, benches, patterns on the trains along with artwork, clocks, train care deport sign, car stop signs, signal boxes and it's just too much to say in a comment!
The subway at Clapham Junction has remained untouched since its NSE days. There is a faint sign of NSE at Herne Hill station on the handrails of the platform stairs. Wimbledon station still has NSE signage for Platforms 9 & 10 above the platforms
Some stations in the Croydon area still bear warning signs in the blue NSE font "do not attempt to board or alight from a moving train" that could have only been possible on slam door units, which were all withdrawn in 2005, long after the collapse of NSE and BR.
I think they may have run trains as far as Manchester from Watford as I'm certain I remember an NSE branded train arriving at Manchester Piccadilly in 1988 in the days when you could travel slowly on a stopping service to London.
There were no Network South East services that ran to Manchester, but Class 309's were transferred to work on regional railways services around Manchester and kept their NSE liveries for a time. There were also some rail tours that took class 309's to far flung places...
I just read that yesterday was the anniversary of the Moorgate Tube crash. Would the Moorgate platform for the NSE trains be the same platform that the 1938 stock was driven into the platform. That accident happened one year before I was born
I will say this nse is still around if you looked harder you be surprised even connex is to! the red lamp post at london bridge on the southeastern is there but will be gone soon, red lamps at bellingham sidings is still looks good but the red is going
There was a Crowlands station planned and partly built between Chadwell Heath and Romford, but never opened and likewise Queens Road twixt Clapton and Hackney Downs and The Old Bull and Bush between Golders Green and Hampstead planned and partly built, but never opened, the only 3 such Stations on Greater London existing Rail Lines.
I agree IC Swallow had an incredibly strong and well loved image, but it was more a service type whereas NSE was an entire region. BR had much less success with some of their other regional re-brands such as the lesser known Network NorthWest and some of the subsequent identities in Manchester and Liverpool.
Those NSE diamonds on the platforms of the Waterloo & City Line served a useful purpose - they marked where the doors would be when the train stopped, so you could stand in the right place. At least, that was the case on the old 1940 stock. Seems like they don't match up so well with the 1992 stock...
Finally got a picture, I'll send it your way! If it's of any interest, they recently replaced all the station's signage... with brand new NSE signage! All the paintwork and signs, just like it was still in the NSE days!
Barking in east London has Network south east branding because before it was know as C2C NSE ran service from fenchurch street to Southend central and then later finding the extension to shobryenss
lewis culverwell connex was an old train operating company along the South Coast... Portsmouth Brighton and possible further. All grubby white slam door stock in my day.
I miss network southeast and there trains that have been scrapped!! My City station in Chichester (West Sussex) still has a network south east name of destination on the signal box there. unfortunately it is rather dirty
and last thing I can think of is if you go to Clapham Junction under the trains in the tunnel if you know what I ming you can see nse on the wall my favourite place must see if hope this helps you for more videos mate cheers if I remember any more I let you know
Can't they do something constructive with this abandoned bit of old LU route? Why don't they convert it to a tram line running from Watford Junction to Rickmansworth via WHS - utilising most of the existing track and only diverging away from it and onto a brand new route towards Rickmansworth? I realise this may be considered frivolous in these current hard times.. but after this (in say five years time) surely they could do something like this? It would connect Rickmansworth with Watford directly (something the Underground doesn't do), plus it would bring life back to much of the abandoned Croxley Green route which would be a good thing. There'd be a tram stop outside Watford FC too. There is probably a bus service that connects these two towns - I don't know, as I don't live in the area. This bus route could be scrapped and replaced by this new tram route. What's not to like? It would take more people than a bus would, and would free up the roads around there. I don't understand why it's just being left to rot. We have totally become a 'can't do' country - finding all manner of excuses as to why this can't be done..... cost..... NIMBYS etc etc. It's just nuts. There is infrastructure already in place......not being used!!
I hope Network Southeast comes back one day.
Absolutely love this channel. Great video!
My local station of Watton-at-Stone (which is on the line that leads into Moorgate) still has an NSE permit to travel Machine.
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NSE clocks on the platforms at Charing Cross.
MP's Newswatch the clocks are everywhere in the old NSE
I didnt see that when i went there
network southeast branded stations in south east london, kent, surrey, east sussex and west sussex was rebranded as connex
The underground bits of the Northern City line give me the creeps. It's like some dystopian version of LU and it always looks abandoned. Never seems to be busy either.
Excellent video!!
If i'm not mistaken, there is an abandoned platform 7 at norwood junction, and if you look very closely down the line to east croydon, you can see light poles with NSE colours on it.
I don't have pictures yet but the some driver's stop car marks still have a small NSE logo on them, including the 12 car mark on the up platform at Northfleet, Kent
At Colchester Station on Platform 3, there is an NSE 8 Car stop marker
Fareham, near Portsmouth, has an old Engineers' Shed with the NSE logo on it, just opposite platform 1. It isn't on station land, and can be seen behind some fencing.
Most of the white train car stop boards on platforms out of Marylebone are old NSE infrastructure with a thin blue sticker covering the NSE stripe at the bottom of the sign, there are a few stations where the sticker has been peeled away and you can see the grey, red and blue logo.
There is a Network South East 3 car stop at Hadley wood station on platform 4, towards Welwyn Garden City.
At the entrance of east tilbury station platform 1 (London bound) there is some on the station building as you walk in
At Eltham station they have two old network south east benches and the metal poles are painted in the distinctive red colour around the outside of it
As you pull in to Basingstoke from the South/West the sign has Network South East branding on it
I've seen a Network SouthEast livery AND branded Class 86 in Willesden Traction Maintenance Depot in 2013, but not sure where it is now, Purley Oaks also has a tall NSE sign on the entrance and finally Selhurst Depot has a NSE container on the line coming from Norwood Junction.
Folkestone East station has not been open for years . You pass it on the train between Folkestone central and Dover priory. It still has the logo on the Station sign on the platform and has NSE benches and lamp posts. A few stations I've been at like Tonbridge and Orpington still have the old NSE flapper board clocks but painted in blue but the red paint is still visible underneath. Also I've seen NSE painted lamp posts at Farningham Road and bromley South.
Great video, hope for more Androew. very interesting and reminds me of Londonist videos
I have found some network south east driver stop signs at didcot parkway which was really cool to see of a gwr franchise
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I went through Marylebone last month (Nov 2018), and the NSE branding we see here (ticket office, etc), is still in situ. The station features some attractive “period detail” - presumably Chiltern Railways wanted to offer more than one period?
Pokesdown near Bournemouth did have the old network southeast carriage stops for 8 and 12 car trains
nice video mate well done really good thank you
Seven Kings Platform 4 has a large NSE logo in the bricks on the platform surface (slightly mangled by odd bricks having been replaced with wrong colours, but still clearly recognisable)
Hello Andy :) Theres some NSE logo's at Platform level at Biggleswade, as you walk down the steps, you'll see them :)
If you leave Herne Hill heading north-east on Thameslink, there's a signal box on the left of the train which has NSE branding
The Wimbledon Loop Line has non-functioning NSE permit to travel machines at stations past Wimbledon (e.g. Morden South, Wimbledon Chase), don't know if there are any machines at Haydons Road, Tooting and there aren't any at Wimbledon as far as I know...
Chelmsford still has its NSE name boards on the old signalbox.
London Liverpool Street is still full of NSE stuff
4:52 It's kinda endless, board parking sign, no parking signs, way out signs, benches, patterns on the trains along with artwork, clocks, train care deport sign, car stop signs, signal boxes and it's just too much to say in a comment!
At strawberry hill depot the sign still has network southeast branding
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James Kelly welcome aboard James, glad you enjoyed!
I think there are some at billericay on the coach stop sign
Saw an old nse drivers stop marker at Broadstairs anticlockwise direction. Not in the best of condition but recognisable.
The subway at Clapham Junction has remained untouched since its NSE days.
There is a faint sign of NSE at Herne Hill station on the handrails of the platform stairs.
Wimbledon station still has NSE signage for Platforms 9 & 10 above the platforms
Nathan Warnock the subway at Clapham is a great example I hope they keep it like that!
Some stations in the Croydon area still bear warning signs in the blue NSE font "do not attempt to board or alight from a moving train" that could have only been possible on slam door units, which were all withdrawn in 2005, long after the collapse of NSE and BR.
Yep it's definitely true because I've seen them
Looking forward to pt 3
I've got a animated version of that famous clock.
I think they may have run trains as far as Manchester from Watford as I'm certain I remember an NSE branded train arriving at Manchester Piccadilly in 1988 in the days when you could travel slowly on a stopping service to London.
There were no Network South East services that ran to Manchester, but Class 309's were transferred to work on regional railways services around Manchester and kept their NSE liveries for a time.
There were also some rail tours that took class 309's to far flung places...
My local station Northfleet has a Network Southeast 12 car stop marker on the platform 1 DOO monitor
Can you do a pt 3
I know this is a bit late but I believe the signs at on Barking station's platforms (at least some) have the NSE logo on them
Willesden Junction, walk between Watford DC line to North London line inside the station it's all over the wall
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I just read that yesterday was the anniversary of the Moorgate Tube crash. Would the Moorgate platform for the NSE trains be the same platform that the 1938 stock was driven into the platform. That accident happened one year before I was born
that's correct yes
The NSE Clocks on Platforms 1-8 at London Victoria and The waiting rooms at the Least Used Station-Longcross and the ticket hall at herne bay
Burgess Hill still has NSE stripes on the north wall of the building.
Herne hill disused signal box has a faded logo in the corner. It is now a southeastern station.
NSE sign by the entrance to Strawberry Hill depot in Shackelgate Lane in Teddington.
Lancing Signal box has a network southeast sign nailed to the wall of the signalbox
I will say this nse is still around if you looked harder you be surprised even connex is to! the red lamp post at london bridge on the southeastern is there but will be gone soon, red lamps at bellingham sidings is still looks good but the red is going
the clocks at london victoria have nse logo on
Bring back nationalisation. NSE did nothing wrong.
Did you see the old br smybol on the sleeper train from london to Fort Willam???
465189 still has logos
Also No one noticed the NSE
Pliers has the tiles
Goodmayes Station has its own station sign hidden on the fast down platform above the coffee shop.
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There was a Crowlands station planned and partly built between Chadwell Heath and Romford, but never opened and likewise Queens Road twixt Clapton and Hackney Downs and The Old Bull and Bush between Golders Green and Hampstead planned and partly built, but never opened, the only 3 such Stations on Greater London existing Rail Lines.
Didcot parkway has stopping boards from nse era and a nse permit to travel machine
Is the Intercity Swallow not as recognisable then??
I agree IC Swallow had an incredibly strong and well loved image, but it was more a service type whereas NSE was an entire region. BR had much less success with some of their other regional re-brands such as the lesser known Network NorthWest and some of the subsequent identities in Manchester and Liverpool.
Those NSE diamonds on the platforms of the Waterloo & City Line served a useful purpose - they marked where the doors would be when the train stopped, so you could stand in the right place. At least, that was the case on the old 1940 stock. Seems like they don't match up so well with the 1992 stock...
Nice video andy
If W&C line was national rail, that would make Bank a British Rail station
in the brickwork on the platforms at Welwyn Garden City and Welwyn North
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Downham Market, Norfolk's street sign is a NSE branded one.
Scott757300 take a snap and send it in! th-cam.com/video/77b319cdsBM/w-d-xo.html
Finally got a picture, I'll send it your way! If it's of any interest, they recently replaced all the station's signage... with brand new NSE signage! All the paintwork and signs, just like it was still in the NSE days!
Scott757300 hi Scott! We took a visit a couple of weeks ago to check it out. It looks great!
Victoria has at least one flapper clock. Harwich International also has at least one of those clocks and a ticket validation machine.
Do love Watford.
Haydons Road has an NSE style way out sign on the platform towards Luton and St.Albans
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peckham wye station still has connex yellow colours on the sign
Network SouthEast branding on the Northern City branch is in the process of being removed by GTR.
You missed the island line
Liverpool Street has the same NSE pillars as Cannon Street
Barking in east London has Network south east branding because before it was know as C2C NSE ran service from fenchurch street to Southend central and then later finding the extension to shobryenss
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Hopefully, with great British railways, NSE will be back! Maybe as ‘the great British south eastern’? Anyways, i want it to.
what is connex?
lewis culverwell connex was an old train operating company along the South Coast... Portsmouth Brighton and possible further. All grubby white slam door stock in my day.
Connex was a train operator in kent too
Going on the train
I know that there is NSE Livery at Cannon Street
I miss network southeast and there trains that have been scrapped!!
My City station in Chichester (West Sussex) still has a network south east name of destination on the signal box there. unfortunately it is rather dirty
no trains have been scrapped apart from thumpers
they forgot to rebrand the signal box from Network Southeast to Connex
and last thing I can think of is if you go to Clapham Junction under the trains in the tunnel if you know what I ming you can see nse on the wall my favourite place must see if hope this helps you for more videos mate cheers if I remember any more I let you know
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Oxford station still retains Nse's colour sceme
Purley way tram stop old NSE lamp post
No PERTIS machine stickers! :(
Can't they do something constructive with this abandoned bit of old LU route?
Why don't they convert it to a tram line running from Watford Junction to Rickmansworth via WHS - utilising most of the existing track and only diverging away from it and onto a brand new route towards Rickmansworth?
I realise this may be considered frivolous in these current hard times.. but after this (in say five years time) surely they could do something like this?
It would connect Rickmansworth with Watford directly (something the Underground doesn't do), plus it would bring life back to much of the abandoned Croxley Green route which would be a good thing. There'd be a tram stop outside Watford FC too.
There is probably a bus service that connects these two towns - I don't know, as I don't live in the area. This bus route could be scrapped and replaced by this new tram route. What's not to like?
It would take more people than a bus would, and would free up the roads around there.
I don't understand why it's just being left to rot. We have totally become a 'can't do' country - finding all manner of excuses as to why this can't be done..... cost..... NIMBYS etc etc. It's just nuts. There is infrastructure already in place......not being used!!
Barking has NSE signage
I Slam door 4VEP 3417 !
NSE AT WEST RISLIP!!
NSE car stops at Didcot
Lewes Signal Box
Bring back NSE
I know one network southeast pattern in London Liverpool Street Tfl rail platforms.
I love the pattern at network southeast and I never see network southeast at emorson park even if I use the romford to upminster line every Saturday.
Victoria Stations flapper clocks
Yes leatherhead appeared on the departure board
Newhaven Marine
virgil langdale is there anything left down there? I think it's been demolished! But do send in a snap if you visit 😊
Permis machienes
The should go back to sectorisation.
Liverpool st
hack from the description
lmao 'privatization in 1996' you mispronounced 'theft'
*hack* ed station