Flat Earthers claim the Starship catch was CGI
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- The recent SpaceX booster catch has sparked reaction from certain people who think they've found proof it was faked
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Glad my footage could help debunk the nonsense!
Man, I admire your work. Sadly, though it will not convince flat earthers. This it not how this works.
Once again, the breathtaking ignorance and stupidity of these airheads is on display, they have absolutely no clue about what CGI can, and can't possibly, do, and they're seemingly incapable of learning.
Who is they? Who are the people claiming it is CGI? They dont exist! You say "these people" yet you dont even know one person that claims its CGI! *This channel is full on nutters!*
@@kayjay592Did you watch the video?
@@kayjay592 I saw a comment on one of the videos showing the catch that said something along the lines of "are you so gullible as to think this is real?"
@@UnboltedList956 I live in the real world! No one thinks starship was CGI! This channel is full of fanatics, talking nonsense!
You lot live on the internet where you can find very insignificant people saying anything, including starship is CGI!
@@kayjay592 That is literally the point of this channel that those people exist. And to give good explanations on photographical topics. And 11% of americans strongly or somewhat believe that it is true that the moonlanding was faked. That is not insignificant.
They could just go watch it themselves. I don't get what these people get out of denying reality.
Well, they could have went to Antarctica for a long time, now they have even been offered to go there for free, yet for some very peculiar reason, most of them choose not to
But then they'll say what they're seeing with their own eyes has been beamed into their eyes by the overhead virtual reality satellites orbiting the earth in space.....oh....wait
Money? Stupid women? Power over weak minds? Historically, people have killed for less.
@@raptorwhite6468 Because it wouldn't be entirely "free" for them. They would lose their primary source of income.
To be fair it is extreamly expensive to get there.
Why don't any of these space deniers ever personally go to these launches?
It wouldn't be surprising if they claim "Oh, the government/military will stop us from going there" or some anti-authority BS.
Cause then they wouldn't be able to deny it.
Plus, too much money for those unemployed basement dwellers to spend.
Because they are not interested. Going to a launch is something that space enthusiasts do, not basement-dwelling weirdos.
It was so crowed there was simply not enough space for them. And why should say, if you think it is CGI then it much more comfortable to watch it on the screen at home.
I watched this live on NSF. Watching humanity's advancement never gets old.
Just when you think they can't get any crazier...
They're just doing it for attention and to stay relevant to their braind dead followers. They could have easily gone there themselves and done a live stream and debunked the whole launch and catch but they choose to do it from twitter instead. Most of them aren't stupid, just doing it to make money from idiots.
they are running out of straws to clutch and cherries to pick. 😄😄
...they surprise you by getting stupider instead! :D
Who is they? Who are the people claiming it is CGI? They dont exist! You say "they" yet you dont even know one person that claims its CGI! *This channel is nuts!*
They always get crazier.
1:40 "And apparently somebody forgot to CGI the starship onto the phone screen." Wow they really just assume that ordinary people are just as incompetent as they are!
Exactly. And how incompetent they are can be seen by the massive data leak of flatearth dave's app -.- They have absolutely no authentication to retrieve all the user records from the server and on top of that all the user passwords are returned in plain text as well... I think yesterday they removed that particular API endpoint, but 2 days ago I got back over 24k+ user records including their email address, password and lat/lon position. A single API call that returned 22MB of json. Even 30 years ago this was unacceptable. Today we have quite strict regulations how to handle personal data. You never store a password in the clear and every API endpoint should be protected and only return necessary information.
They project their incompetence onto others, it's really funny.
he was not even filming the rocket, that phone camera was clearly pointing in a completely different direction
@@Bunny99s The contact details of 24k people that are guaranteed to be extremely gullible. That must be a treasure trove for any scammer.
@@DemiCape Though that's not what happened. You can tell the camera is pointed at the rocket. The rocket is just too small on the screen.
@@patu8010it looks like the phone is pointed above the rocket and the base.
All them paid actors… NASA must have spent a fortune!! 😂
Space deniers need a check, too. I'm sure their reality check is in the mail.
Well, they saved money for the launch that didn't happen so they could afford the actors /s
@@MrChuck78929 haha it’s where the budget goes.
Plot twist the people are CGI
Sarcasm - It's why the national debt is in the Trillions...
I saw IFT 3 in person. My friend saw the catch in person. It was NOT CGI.
I think YOU'RE CGI, therefore no, you didn't. Checkmate. *Sarcasm*... Since it can be hard to tell when dealing with flerfs
How does one get a opportunity to see this in person?
Well, flat earthers will claim that you're obviously paid to say that.
@@exceedingabundantly203go to Texas
Could it be you've been brainwashed to think you saw it in person? 🤪
Seriously, congrats on seeing this historic event with your own eyes. I wish I could have been there.
The reason that's ridiculous is that I was standing there on the ground watching it happen with hundreds of other people. 😂
Lucky you.
I'd love to have been there.
Bold of them to claim CGI on something witnessed LIVE by thousands and independently recorded up coose by tens of creators (I personally watched theough the NASASpaceflight channel, who have their own cameras). Oh the arrogance of these people.
Its the "Truman Show" psychosis.
I bet there is an unhealthy dose of narcissism in many of their personalities
And this is a public event. They had the option to just see it themselves. They can have a plane ticket, a hotel and rent a car for under $1000. Much easier than going to the Antarctica.
They can still do that, they just need to check when the next launch happens. Or go to Florida, where it happens every week.
The events are publicised yet no flat earther will go for fear of their version of reality being destroyed. Funny that.
That multiview you made is actually really awesome!
"Everyone except me is part of the conspiracy!"
"and that makes sense because I'm the main character of earth"
@@Pelicanzzz
I thought it was me.
@@DavidBritton-nl1wv Nope. You're just an extra, but your character motivation is that you believe you're the main character. 🙂
I just thought the old geezer got so wrapped up watching the landing he wasn't pointing his phone in the right direction. :)
I'm sure even if they had been there and watched it in person, they would still claim CGI. At this point I'm pretty sure they have no idea what CGI even is and probably think it is something you can just edit into reality for everyone who is physically there to see.
Obviusly, remember, the moon is a proyection.
C........G.........I....... to quote creaky blinder!
probably CoGnitive Insufficiency
or collaborative general incompetence
Some of them claim the 24-hour sun in Antarctica will be some sort of fake sun simulator.
I love how in Karen's video she has a disclaimer that says "I reserve the right to be wrong." Sure, but that doesn't mean you have to flaunt it like it's a trophy.
Not to mention that they see to try very hard to be as wrong as they possibly can.
You don't have the right to expect me to respect you being wrong tho
It's not like she had to reserve it in the first place, she got it with ease. (Also, the right to be wrong? The *right*? What kind of right is that?)
And what are all those people even doing there in the first place? If it's CGI, then there's nothing to see live, so WTF are they all there for? Were they staged to all show up and pretend to look at something that wasn't even there? These flerfs are ridiculous.
I think their idea is that those people are paid actors
Nah, they just mad cuz they weren't the ones picked to be paid actors...Oh wait, damn, I said the quiet part aloud, didn't I?
People have watched too many TV programmes and films with "zoom, enhance ..." requested/demanded of technicians over digital footage from, usually, CCTV systems.
LOL, true. I always get triggered by the magic they do in TV shows. A couple keystrokes, and the image magically gets upscaled, curiously usually with a slow linear transition...
I recall a movie that parodied the absurdity of such scenes by zooming and enhancing more than half a dozen times through multiple reflections to find a clue either on the back of a business card, or a book of matches.
@@craigyoung8008 Yes, exactly!
CSI syndrome.
@@craigyoung8008 I might be wrong, wasn't it Tribeca? 😅
I think the saddest part of this is that these people are missing out on celebrating one of the biggest engineering feats in human history. What a sad existence
I always feel so sorry for these people.
@@fepatton Don't
you can literally see the couple darker pixels where the booster is on the phone, slightly out of focus and compression makes it hard to notice but in a few frames you can clearly see the booster on the phone LMAO these people are insane
And he is clearly pointing in a different direction and not directly on the rocket, just a bit more to the right.
@@DemiCape exactly, almost centered on the tower so the booster is off to the left centre of the screen😅
Remember that you're dealing with a group of people who believe the JWST is an artificial sun and "Project Bluebeam" is able to make holographic scenes in the sky. Nothing, and I mean literally nothing, is too crazy for them.
The people claiming everything is fake and everyone is a bot are the people who never leave the house.
So true 😂
As someone who never leaves her house, I assure you that we're more than capable of learning the true nature of things even from here. All the more-so thanks to the efforts of Dave and countless others showing actual PROOF for these concepts, instead of the name-calling and "because-I-said-so"ing of the majority of Flat Earth channels.
Anyone can get tangled up in misinformation if they're not careful. It takes painfully little to start slipping down that slide. What you need is a mind that isn't afraid to ask "was I wrong about this?", and that can put effort into answering that question, in order to ensure that when the misinformation comes your way (which it always will), you can spot it and remove it before it begins to twist your entire worldview.
Well, the world outside is all CGI, so why would they?
As someone who never leaves her home, I assure you we're not all Flat Earthers :P
Did you not know that all cameras have a CGI chip build in, that can be activated at will by THEM 🌍🌎🌏🚀🚀🚀🛸🛸🛸
That is actually plausible as opposed to flerf theories
Shocking!!🤯🤯
Luckily for us, the one guy in the world who’d managed to turn it off, decided to randomly film a bit of sky we’re absolutely nothing was happening. Well, it’s either that, or what he said.
then why was it not active on that one guys phone
The _the them™_
Now we're into holographic projections, not CGI. Imagine the size of the sound system that comes with it to make neighbouring villages and cities complain about the sonic booms that go with the launch of the rocket and the return of the booster.
If Lemmy was still alive he'd want to hire it.
Yeah, I heard 'They' had to launch a rocket to space and return it just so 'They' could record the sound track for the simulation. Way expensive.
I saw it with my own eyes. This is absurd
"This rocket was caught!" "what's your evidence?" "here's an obscene amount of overwhelming evidence." "well what's your evidence for your evidence" ".....sigh...."
me: There are only BLACK ants in my back yard.
friend: hey but there's a-
me: **SQUISH** hmmm?
The level of ignorance I've seen on the rise in the past 20 years is truly terrifying !
Concerning to me that these ignoramuses pass it off as "Free Thinking" that unburdens them from the government "indoctrination" prevalent in our schools.
That dog is not real. CGI.
😄
Yup 👍 🤣🤣🤣🐕
Reality isn't real.
CGI 😂
It's Ceee Geee Eye! Actually 😊
Yeah, I know. It's too cute to be real.
The same tiresome people who claim atomic bombs are fake and birds are robots...
Birds are robots? All 50 billion of them? Hadn't heard of that one before.
@@entityself3104 birds = government surveillance drones, bat flu was to change the batteries while everyone was locked down
as these things go it is at least amusing
robot chicken ftw 🤣
@@entityself3104 No, not all of the birds. Just enough to observe you and attack if necessary...
That one was actually an experiment on how gullible some people are and what you have to do to convince people - there is a TED talk about it on YT (one of the few good ones).
Lightbulbs on the other hand! They've contained listening devices for AGES! 🥳
FYI, the "Birds aren't real" conspiracy theory was started as a joke.
Then people started taking it seriously.
2:05 😂 your dog is growing frustrated you're waving your hands around instead of giving pets.
Damn flerffers keeping Dave from giving doggo due pets.
That is pretty much all i see that dog do...sleep and command his 'owner' for more pets.
@@Dead_Kerbal That's a cat in dogs clothing
These same morons claim the "Stardust Launch" on my YT channel is "CGI".
I watched that video LIVE as the rocket ascended, and I could see where I parked my CAR that morning at the launch control complex FROM THE CAMERA ON THE ROCKET.
So, the 3D modelers KNEW WHERE TO PUT MY CAR IN ADVANCE?
If they think that the Stardust Launch was "CGI" I invite the reader to go watch the STATE OF THE ART in 3D Rendering in 1999: TOY STORY 2!!
Getting premade 3D-asset matching with reality is easy: just get bunch of drivers to rearrange randomly parked cars to match pre-determined 3D-model and use mind-control beams to alter everyone to remember that us where their car is. Easy and fun.
You must be a NASA shill.
@@woodfold I am. Are you willing to make a better offer? Service ain't cheap.
@@woodfold - "You must be a NASA shill"
If building, testing, launching, and operating earth orbiting spacecraft and deep space science probes for NASA for almost 30 years makes me a "shill".
Then OK, I guess I am one.
It never ceases to amaze me, the amount of time and energy we have to spend, educating stupid people. If they had only spent more time listening at school, instead of bunking off with their mates, the world would be a better place. The level of paranoia, is unreal here. "Nasa, the Government and every scientist and astronaut on the planet are conning us" 😒
So wait, you're saying that by studying physics im studying to become a con artist?! :o
@@JustJumhey I spent most of my school years bunking off and I'm still not THAT stupid.
The Antarctic Treaty prevents them from going to watch this in real life.
First time I've seen a Flerfer fail to understand scale in the opposite direction.
No, let me correct myself. This is very similar to their belief that thousands of satellites should be visible in whole Earth pictures.
They're getting desperate to believe in something they don't believe in.
Haha. I said to myself when I saw the flerf memes "I bet daves going to make a video on this" 😅
It seemed rude not too 🤣
@@DaveMcKeegan And not forgetting people in Mexico filmed it from another angle and they was even closer....
They’re just grasping at straws at this point. Sad.
Don't expect flerfers to come up with reasonable questioning about anything. These idiots cannot question anything. All they can do is parrot each others' idiocies.
Why?!
Why would they fake this? What would they gain by tricking people into believing this is real if it wasn't? Do they really think they are so important that people are willing to spend so much time and money to fake this, just to trick them ?
Yes, they are psychotic narcissists...
Or Grifters...
Or Trolls...
All three are indistinguishable.
Their typical answer to that question, is to embezzle tax dollars. Problem here is, SpaceX is a private company using their own money. They'll still say it's to steal mo ey from investors.
I've told some of them not to flatter themselves, the government nor NASA gives a ""** what they think. They are nothing to them.
Fr. Spacex faking a launch makes even less sense than nasa faking a launch
Poor flat earthers.. everybody is in on all these conspiracies, except them.
It's a big club, and they're not in it!
"Seems kind of desperate." FWIW, I always admire your courteous tone in your videos. You're a wonderful person with a keen understanding of empathy and its value in persuasive argument.
Mark Twain once said " there's no amount of evidence to convince an idiot".
We need to stop giving these idiots airtime. They're as relevant as nutters who think they're Napoleon.
Yeah, how absurd. I think I'd know if they were me.
Their only relevance to science is in that of psychology.
I am pretty sure that these flat earth nuts (and similar idiots, like moon landing was faked) are actually getting backing from assorted intelligence agencies; basically a well poisoning tactic to associate anyone questioning "official" narratives with nonsense. That is why this idiots will continue to get airtime, because those powerful interest find them useful as a distraction.
I dunno, seems like Dave has managed to monetize them to the point that it's probably a decent side hustle. Heck, he even managed to get a trip to Antarctica thrown in for good measure!
Hell with CGI some of them even said it was a baloon with torch under it, or even a hologram, man thkse people are screwd
I saw a TikTok where a flerf was saying it was a hologram . They really are getting desperate.
Sonic booms were holograms too right" I'd love to see a demonstration of a hologram in the day, that appears solid. Landing a booster rocket on a launch tower would be many times easier in comparison. 😂
@@ElementofKindness ikr.😁
Ikr, NASA has better holograms than Star Wars apparently but still use swimming pools, wires and hair spray to simulate the ISS? 😂 just like a flat Earth model, there is a conspicuous lack of consistency 🤣
@@obsidiancurse429 😀👍
Space deniers are like The Black Knight. They will never surrender.
Desperation is a mind-bender!
I guess when people reject reality, no amount of evidence of reality will convince them otherwise.
Truly disgusting, how some "people" would do this horrible thing
Also note that one of the spectators is covering part of the phone with his head. I swear, these people don’t have a lick of common sense in those special little brains of theirs
Poor Karen B. Living with a name like that, and living in a brain dead cult.
I like to think of her as the OG Karen. 😆
@@simond.455nah, that was Karen A 😂😂😂
@@Evan-k 🤣
These people will walk past a mountain of gold for a few pieces of silver
You went way further than I would have, seems pretty obvious that the explanation is that they were busy watching history being made and marked WITH THEIR EYES, rather than focussing on where their phone camera was pointing. "Ah crap I wasn't pointing my camera in the right direction, but I'm glad I actually watched it with my own eyes!".
As always, fabulous forensic debunk of these opportunistic youtube view grifting idiots.
This is already a case of psychological illness.
Just ignore this type of people and they will soon get bored of denying everything, don’t give them attention, that’s what they want to have.
It's a symbiotic relationship, don't disturbed balance
@@jumbo4billion huh?
true, proving them wrong is meaningless, just let them have their beliefs.
proving a point to an ignorant person is like having an argument against a concrete wall, and you don't even win because nothing can be extracted from that argument and time wasted
I can already hear a certain "realist's" jimmies rustling.
Is the rustle due to the jimmies "demonstrating"?
a Flerf must have been there to try and video the ‘fakery’ surely? where is he… come on… own up lol😂
Well the idiots could just go to Bocca Chica and watch it with their own eyes. Nobody is stopping them. Thousands did it. How more moronic can you possibly get...
Riiiggghhhtttttt. Just like 9/11, eh? Nevermind the thousands of people that physically witnessed the events for themselves.
Yeah that actually pisses me off. A couple of my friends were on the interstate near the pentagon and the airliner came directly over them. They actually got out of the car and dived down a bank because they thought it was going to hit them. It took down the light poles along the interstate.
its a wonder they haven't said your dog is CGI
AI generated comment from flat earthers to claim AI generated video from round earthers :D
They're were plenty of witnesses on site. They saw it . Cannot beat that. It's just a joke .
They were cgi also 😂
2:37 to play devils advocate here, if someone had made a proper cgi rendering of the booster landing with proper light occlusion and cloud simulations, you could place the camera anywhere in the scene to get all the different vantage points
And here we go with the question if our universe is actually just a 3D render of a technically advanced civilization
That's true, however it's still a valid point because comping and tracking that into real footage from all those different angles, all with different lenses and cameras to account for would be pretty much impossible.
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.” ― Albert Einstein
Fun video, love the way you analyze photography/ film. This catch was insane!
The only difference between Genius and Stupidity... is that Genius is limited. :)
The most likely reason the rocket isn't seen on the phone screen is the person recording was watching it in real life, not paying attention to the screen and lost track of it while recording.
No, watch the video. The screen shows the edge of the cloud the rocket passes by. Dave's explanation is right. The rocket is just too small to be visible with this setup.
Imagine the advanced technology that SpaceX has that managed to project CGI straight into the eyes of thousands of people that watched from all directions, north, south from Mexico, boats, beaches, hotels. Everyone got the CGI perfectly projected onto their retinas every millisecond, with perfect perspective accuracy. Man, that amazing supercomputer and laser projectors that did that, alien technology !
Or, there was a rocket launch and catch....
it's the VR satellites in space orbiting the earth projecting the images into everyones eyes.....oh.....wait
Honestly I think all these people trying to claim stuff is cgi and what not, know for a fact that they’re spewing nonsense but really desire attention more than anything else so they just never admit fault
Who are these people? They dont exist!
@@kayjay592 In the comment sections of some of Dave's other videos I've argued with more than one person who has claimed that the Apollo Moon Landings were faked with CGI. It's a common claim in the moon hoaxie community.
all these dummies with their fingers in their ears are missing out on some incredible stuff that humans are capable of lol
Saying it's reversed doesn't make sense in either direction 😂😂
It would be even more impressive though if they launched just a booster and brought it back with a starship on top 🤣
@@DaveMcKeegan And a full tank of fuel.
I watched man land on the moon, I was 6, and it was the most amazing thing I have ever seen. I watched the the first shuttle launch. I could go on about watching the launches of the pioneer probes and voyager. I have taught my daughter about space, she loves it. We watched this the other day, and it was amazing. Then comes this crap, CGI this CGI that. Every time I hear this crap, I think of the line from Ripley in Aliens "have IQ dropped since I have been away". Sorry for the rant.
Unpossible! Ofc CGI! Thanks for the content :)
We should all experience the kind of love that his dog shows in its eyes at the end of the video. 😍🥰
If you're a flat-Earther... GET A GRIP!!!
You sound a bit...grumpy...
@@Dead_Kerbal -_-
I love that not once ever is one of these deniers making their claims like this:
"I'm standing here right now, where what THEY tell you is happening..... And I can tell you right now it ISN'T!!"
Why don't they find the truth this way and break the matrix?
and this people can vote....
I knew those fools would think this!
Is Elon Musk even aware that most of these ignoramuses making these nonsensical speculations are Trump voters?🤣🤣🤣
It make's sense if you think about why it's like that; almost all Flerfs are religious, and Trump is Christian and he's inclined towards freedom of religion.
The left has their own set of cultists but they aren't based on a classic religion with gods or saints, but by communists ideology, dislike toward Christ based religions and a weird gender ideology that clashes directly with religion and science so it would be pretty rare for the left to have Flerfs.
@@campoyo3788 You know Trump that well to conclude that he's a Christian? And "he's inclined towards freedom of religion"?😳😳😳 So he won't have a problem with Muslims practicing Islam?😳 What woulf the Christian Far Right think about that then?😳 You really believe Trump makes any sense?😳
He's into too much weed to notice... (weed? yeah... I am being generous...)
We have drastically underestimated the power of stupid
The flerfs are so desperate! The grabbing every straw they can. How ridiculous it is, they will find the hair in the soup 🥣
Ironically, I can actually see the rocket on that person's phone with 2x readers on and my face about a foot from the screen, when the booster lights. Which reminders me that Flat Earther's never cease to amaze with their sheer laziness, considering the mystery was solved here in my office by leaning forward with readers. Does it ever occur to them that all they have to do (to prove it's CGI) is drive or fly there and watch the next launch. That's the difference, a skeptic would say, "that's odd and I don't believe the explanations, so I'll go see for myself." Flearf's say, "that's CGI and there's no way anyone can prove it's real." Zero creativity, zero ambition, zero problem solving, zero ability to assimilate all the information and draw a logical conclusion.
Well of course they claim it’s CGI! Poor little things.
If they witnessed it in person .. they would still say THEY have implanted CGI recorder in their retners
That's alot of money to spend on CGI. Probably cheaper to actually build the Starship and booster.
There are none so blind as those who will not see!
If THEY wanted to, THEY could've said "no observers, top secret" and made sure no one could view it. They don't need to fake hundreds of videos when they'd be well within their rights to forbid observers, to an extent.
So, they don’t really understand:
* perspective
* photography/cameras
* reality
Nothing new then. You know, they can just go there and watch it personally. American flerfs are lucky they have launchpads they can watch rocket launches from. Ah, right, basement couch at mom’s house is too comfy for them.
...or good sense...they usually also struggle with that...
Just the first line of your comment would do, tbqh.
We once had a flat Earthers refuse to look through our telescopes at the Moon, clearly visible up in the sky, because he said the Moon itself was fake. We deal with them and other conspiracy theorists a decent amount. Such is public outreach...
Another brilliant debunking. The straw grasping of denials is astonishing.
I absolutely love how their logic is “this organization has an enormous budget and advanced CGI but somebody forgot to CGI this detail”
It indeed does seem desperate, because the flat earthers are desperate.
Awesome sync montage of all the different videos!
Also the pictures of crepuscular rays spreading up look great.
CGI they say? lol. i bet they never doing complex 3D modeling, animation, rigging, simulation, PBR material and Rendering + Compositing 😂😂😂
I remember back in 2015/16 Flerfs were saying ALL the SpaceX landings/ launching were fake CGI.
I fucking witnessed it with my own eyes 😂
I don't know any flat-Earthers, but if I did, I would never ask their opinion on anything.
So stupid the amount of 3rd parties that filmed the thing from launch to catch in one shot. EDIT Exactly what dave said in the video after watching it.
Of course they say it's CGI. How else are they going to deny it?