Is the Maytag Commercial Washer the BEST EVER, or is It a HUGE SCAM? MVWP576KW1 Teardown & Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 มิ.ย. 2024
- I got in a brand new Maytag Commercial Washer & Dryer Set at my store. Having talked about them before, I thought it'd be a great idea to rip them apart to see what really makes them different than the other Whirlpool / Maytag units I've made 30 or 40 videos on.
However, in the process of filming & researching, I found out that this specific set is a huge scam due to the warranty that some stores don't include. I show off the warranty pages for this specific unit +
Inspect the Warranty Page for the REAL 5-Year Deal & Buy the Set at: bit.ly/38QtHRM
Timeline:
00:00 - Introduction
01:16 - Washing Machine Teardown
08:32 - Washer Water / Electric / Agitation Review
09:48 - Dryer Teardown
14:14 - "The Scam" Information
Affiliate Disclosure Form: bit.ly/3oXeu3B
** Links to external websites and parts may result in me receiving a commission on sales.
Just as a note, I released this video earlier than I expected because AJ Madison actually has the set with the 5-year warranty on sale for something like $200 off through the end of today: bit.ly/38QtHRM
Make sure to look at their warranty paperwork versus that for a MVWP576KW1 and tell me what you think!
Glad to see that we did not overpay for our washer and dryer. Paid within $30 plus eventually getting a $50 rebate.
@@wwagaman9156 nice way to go!
Discovered your channel tonight. Outstanding value added content. I bought the washer featured in this video a year ago and it works great.
So it's not actually "commercial", they're just making them like they did 10-15 years ago. They're calling it "Commercial" to compete with Speed Queen".
You're wrong about the warranty. I bought one of these MVWP575G with the 6 year warranty about a year ago and it started rocking and they said they would send a technician but if HE SAID it was covered under the warranty then it would be covered. If he said it was NOT COVERED then they would want $149 even if I told them not to do ANYTHING. So Maytag is scamming you PERIOD! I think I need to contact the Pennsylvania Attorney General's office and show the phoney 5 year warranty. It's not worth the paper it's printed on!
My Maytags are 40 years old, working perfectly. Every 10 or 15 years I have to have a belt replaced but that's it. Too bad that Maytag lost the recipe for reliable washers and dryers
That's impressive!
Right there with you. My Maytag washer is 36 years old. I bought it with the matching dryer 8 years ago for $100. I had to replace the damper pads and belts, other than that, nothing.
They didn't lose it, they tucked it away
@Ben V There is no Maytag, it was sold to whirlpool years ago. Whirlpool is not going to make something better than their junk.
your a dirty person and somehow ypu don’t understand that
When you saw the man pull the Lint filter which was curved, out of the top of the dryer it brings back a flood of memories. When I traveled and was out of town my wife put our young son on top of the dryer as she was removing wet clothes from the washer and putting them in the dryer. When she took the lint filter out he stuck a pencil down where the lint filter went. She took the top of the dryer apart to retrieve the pencil and then put it back together and set him down again on the top of the dryer. You guessed it he threw the pencil down the dryer lint filter slot. She had to take it apart again.
This is why I got a vasectomy.
You can typically access by disconnecting the hose as an FYI. Your wife sounds handy tho, I'm surprised she didnt make you do it the second time. 😆
@@allaboutroofing2
She had two choices, fix it herself or wait till I got back into town which was days away. I guess there was a third option and that would be find a dryer repairman. And the answer is yes, she’s handy. Lol.
That's not to bad , i came home from work to a crying wife and the bathroom floor flooded with bits of poop floating around the kid had stuffed a toy down the toilet i had to remove the toilet an pull it out the bottom an just for practice he did it again the next day . guess that's paybacks for what i did to my parents 😂
@@pl7868
Yep I get it I understand what they do when they’re young, been there done that. My neighbor had a picnic scheduled and guests invited and they lived in a two-story house. In the garage the plumbing went out to the street for the sewer. There were floor drains in the garage and everything was coming up through the floor drains. You would think they would stop flushing the toilet but no. As it turns out their son put some sticks down the clean out area next to the house outdoors. The sticks were retrieved with a fishing line and hook. Do you loose to say a considerable amount of cleaning was done in that garage.
I’ve had this washer for at least 5 years. I bought it after doing a LOT of research!. It was between this Maytag Commercial and a Speed Queen. I’m not sorry I went with the Maytag. I really like it. My understanding is that it’s not quite up to a SQ in terms of quality,but I think it’s really close. Definitely a lot better than most washers these days! Just wanted to post this to help anyone who’s washer shopping!
Thank you, I am.checking both machines this week.
I’ve had the Maytag Commercial Washer with the 5 year warranty for 4 years now and no problems. I picked the Maytag over the Speed Queen at the time because Speed Queen did something stupid with agitators at the time in 2018 and only offered only a 3 year warranty at the time!
Also for those deciding. Maytag commercial washer has a dual action agitator while some of the Speed Queens do not and thus MayTag washes your clothes better. Another deciding factor to consider.
@@maxwell10206 And yet, just by virtue of Whirlpool marketing 2 exact same washers with different warranties you still endorse a Maytag?
Whirlpool is a master con artist, evidently they got you too...
@@kalanikaau1 Unfortunately Whirlpool has become very disconnected with their customers. I understand they had major problems with their aqua lift self-cleaning ovens and Whirlpool is still selling ranges with that system. They have really cut the quality in a lot of their products down quite a bit.
I had exactly the same model Kenmore set as shown midway thru the video. They were 21 years old and never needed a single repair despite having roommates, girlfriends and washing things that probably shouldn't be washed and dried. (Rugs after camping). I sold my house and my new one came with a modern set. I kick myself everytime I use them since I should have taken my old set and swapped them around. Live and learn.
I found a 10 year old Maytag stainless drum direct drive washer for sale that the woman claimed was only used for a year. "Yeah Right!" Got it out of her storage unit and home and took it apart to find it was barely used. Immediately put it in my house. They are still out there, but it takes a lot of looking. I found one other one like that and put a ridiculous price on it...a woman who worked at the Benton Harbor plant bought it cause she knew what it was....not junk.
Buying this thing is the best thing I’ve ever done. No unbalanced issues. “Wastes more water” but I think it actually saves water because the old one would just refill and refil from constantly being unbalanced and my clothes are way cleaner! No deoderant buildup on my tank top undershirts. Washes faster it’s great.
All that government mandated water saving stuff is b.s. anyway. You have to wash things twice or trick it into putting more water in, so you save nothing if you want your clothes clean.
Any abnormal tearing of the clothes? Looking at getting the current 586. Also does it was king sized comforters?
@@npolite22 in the two years I’ve had this it’s torn two tiny tank top straps because I accidentally put the arm hole over agitator no problems, still as great as day one would buy it 100 more times.
@@npolite22 and yes to the king sized comforters :)
Does it bang when unbalanced? Do you have to turn on extra rinse or do you leave that last dial off?
A neighbor put a 10 yr old kenmore washing machine on the street. Knowing kenmore we took hers and put our old machine in it's place. That was 15 yrs ago, my wife loves it. We also have a 30 yr old maytag gas drier we'd bought for a 4 unit rental. After ten years of hard use we sold the property and kept the gas drier. It still works fine!
Just ordered the dryer directly from Maytag (which is the best way to guarantee your warranty will be honored regardless of model number. I honestly usually find that direct from the manufacturer is the way to go with appliances in general. The prices are the same and the warranties are so much easier to deal with.
I have worked for Whirlpool as service tech in Canada 🇨🇦 for 40 years. Love your videos and 100 % agree. Keep it up.
So you are a tech-god that sees into appliances! /tips my hat.
I always wanted to ask, how much did they pay you vs how much they charged the customer. I am located in the USA. I just want to know the general scale. Did they pay you hourly for any repair or were you better compensated for easy repairs vs complicated ones? (Grandkid is looking into getting this for a living) and I - have just always been curious.
Canada, figures. Only Americans know what's real and not. Go and watch how I met your mother and Robin from Canada. You need to know something then ask me, not the butt Head.
So you have watched the quality decline? There is no profit in appliances that last decades? I appreciate what the "Whirlpool 2000" engineers did.
I would reply to question but privately
@@mikepaterek5371 Tell me the answer without telling me the answer...lol
Back in the 70’s Maytag had a sales prop they gave to dealers. It was a $2 bill encased in clear acrylic, and it symbolized the average repair cost over the life of Maytag washers. They were pricy though, almost 2x the cost of a GE.
@@muziklvr7776 those were in the house we bought off my in-laws and it's a good thing with three kids we had no spare money for years , we bought the house in 1978 an that pair was old then , i rebuilt the tranny on the washer an forget how many little things but we didn't buy new ones till 1992 when i tore the house apart and changed all the wiring did insulation ect ...
Just like my Curtis Mathes TV
And when those maytags broke they weren't worth repairing due to the over complex design just to get them apart.
@@shadowopsairman1583 nothing to it the tub came out the top and the tranny out the bottom
Worth the investment !
I have a Maytag Washer (LAT9416AAE) and Dryer (MDG9316AWW) that I bought in 1997, and they have NEVER broken down. ! That's 25 years of service with no issues.
I've recently pulled apart both the residential and commercial versions. The transmissions in both are nearly identical from what I can see. The commercial transmission may be using grease instead of oil. Bearing numbers are identical but manufacturer and quality may or may not be different. Doesn't seem to be any differences in the gear box. Shaft length and height are the same on both machines, one can be swapped for the other if necessary. Just my observations.
I had a Maytag washer and dryer set for 18 years. Repaired the dryer many times, but once the washer died, I bought numerous brands and finally settled on a Speed Queen standard washer and dryer. Haven't had to repair anything so far, and it has been years. Maytag was a very good brand when we got the set back in 1983, but not anymore.
Your Maytag machines in 1983 were REAL Maytags, built in Newton, Iowa; the home of the Maytag family.
Maytag is nothing but a brand name now. One of the saddest stories in the state of Iowa.
A few years ago I purchased the Maytag Washer MVWP575GW and Dryer MEDP575GW. So far these have been the best washer and dryer we have owned since 1992. Very heavy duty and actually cleans the clothes.
Thankyou I dont know what to do the drum in my washer seems scummy. I can't clean it can I replace the drum ???
@@eddieo9424 try using afresh it may help but even better take a blue sponge and hand wash it with liquid detergent and run the Rinse cycle or run the whole wash cycle. Sometimes you have to clean these machines on a regular schedule. 73
Thankyou Ron b. Will give it a try ben said citrus acid . What
About that he said Amazon but I dont see it listed with Amazon.
Thanks for responding.
@@eddieo9424 you are welcome! big 73.
Where did you buy it?
I've got a 1971 Whirlpool pair. It served its original owner for 30 years. I got it, replaced the wig-wag, belt, and pump. It's run for over 20 years for me. I also own a pair of 1983 Maytag units that were just serviced for the first time, ever, two weeks ago. I replaced the pump and belts. The dryer has never been touched, but I do have a spare belt, and rollers for it, when ever it needs them.
My sis has a Samsung. It's conked out several times in the last 10 years.
Thanks for the video. Interesting to watch.
Samsung appliances suck...as you have witnessed...
I just bought the 5 year washer based on your recommendation from before. I'm extremely happy with it. Your videos take a lot of the guesswork out of buying appliances. I'm very happy I found you!
Which one did you buy? The speed queen 5000 series?
@@marcowens3522 I bought the Maytag. I looked at the Speed Queen but it was backordered.. My LG washer died so I couldn't wait.
How much
Great video-as always!
Just a tip, on capacitors, it’s actually the symbol for “micro”, not the letter U. F is for Farad, a unit of capacitance. So in other words, you would say the capacitor is rated at 60 microfarads. Just some electronics teaching.
Right, I wasn't sure if it was micro or milli Farads so I strayed away from it in this case
You could pronounce it Mu Eff.
The 60uf (60 microfarads) doesn't necessarily mean it is a more heavy duty capacitor, it just means it has more capacitance. The value of the capacitor is relative to the design spec of the motor. See the rating plate at 6:21 where it shows CAP: 60uf. On an induction motor, it is a starting capacitor for the motor and it helps start the motor in the right direction through a phase shift on the start winding relative to the run winding. There is a centrifugal switch in the motor that takes the capacitor (as well as the start winding) out of the circuit, as it changes the motor from start to run. The switch position changes as the motor reaches near full speed and is now operating only on the run winding. Thank you for this video. My wife and I have been looking for a new washer and dryer and this helps a lot.
I bought two of these Maytag washers (we are a large family 🙂). One in 2019, the other in 2020. The older one started making a loud noise shortly after three years. It ended up being the splutch. The repairman couldn't believe that it had a 5-year warranty, but I showed him the paper.
My Maytag just broke 2 months after the 5 year warranty ran out
Glad you cleared up that warranty jumble! I bought at the mom & pop place and got the warranty. Nobody could tell me what the difference was between the models. The one at the big box store advertised greater capacity, but I couldn't visually see any difference. Btw, the washer broke within a week. They fixed it and there has been no more trouble in a year and a half.
Hi, I wanted to thank you for this video. After watching numerous videos, this one was the most helpful helping me decide what washing machine to purchase to replace my 38 year old Maytag. Thank you so much. (PS - I did buy the one with the 5-year factory warranty - NOT from a big box store.) God Bless you.
Wife & I have a matching set of Kenmore washer &dryers, have put a new hose on the washer & rollers on the dryer. Not bad for 44 yr old appliances! (old guy!)
Bought the new Maytag Commercial MVWP586GW and thought it was the best thing ever. Incredible washing, could handle heavier loads, seperate water levels, no off balance issues, great spinnning the water out, nice large opening, dual agitator. 3 months later the only thing it does now is great at washing clothes. Everything else is faulty. I cannot leave the house with a load in as it will keep refilling, won't spin the water out as it use to, "drain and spin" setting will drain, spin, and fill up with water, it goes off balance a lot now. Have recalibrated but to no avail. Have a service call made.
I use to sell washers in the 90's early 2000's and the Canadian Camco products (Ge, Hotpoint etc) and the original Maytags were way more "commercial" than the one I currently have.
Thank you. You just saved me a headache. My Maytag Commercial MVWP575GW just went out and I although I ordered Speed Queen TC5003, I considered changing it to Maytag Commercial MVWP586GW to better match the dryer because the Speed Queen is 2" deeper than the Maytag. Now I won't bother changing the order.
@@citybright8925 Smart choice as other issues have now popped up since my post.
I got this set (The GW!) about a year and a half ago and I gotta say, it's incredible. I specifically bought it because I wanted something I could use for the next 25 years.
I was actually on a home remodeling show this past year and I just about fought the host because he insisted on replacing my washer and dryer with a Samsung front loading set.
I'm so glad I did my research before buying and ended up with one of the better built machines available!
Great breakdown and explanation of this Maytag Commercial set. Love the tip about the one vs. five year warranty.
I appreciate the knowledge and dedication you share. I've never baught a washer or dryer. Ive been fortunate to be a to fix the handy downs I was given and they lasted me 12 years. I've gone from fearing a washer/dryer purchases to looking forward to one day getting a set of these bad boys for my self. You have a great channel sir. Long live your bad heart and hot wife. 👍
I’m not into appliances at all but ❤your videos 😂
Thank you for your hard work in making these and letting consumers know what’s up!
These are good units but I have replace the updated lid lock switch on a few of them now, all within the first 2 years after purchase. I saw the splutch kit gearing get stripped out in one, but it was at a mechanic shop and they were filling the thing to the brim with dirty shop rags so that's just user error, but like you said, it's the same splutch kit as the residential models. I love your videos, Ben. Thanks for the knowledge.
So you know where I can buy a lid lock replacement so I can keep the lid open so I can see what’s going on? Something is wrong with the agitator but I can’t w/o the lid open.
@@kingdomkatz Friend, you can actually test this by taking the piece of the lid lock that is on the lid (it probably has 2 torx bit screws in it) and remove it from the lid and insert it into the lock to satisfy the sensor. That way, you can run it with the lid open. You could also have an issue with the hub under the agitator, which is a relatively cheap part but can be a pain in the rear to replace if the agitator is rusted onto the gearcase shaft. Let me know if you have any questions and I'll help as best as I can.
@@kingdomkatz If you give me the model # I can provide you with any part numbers you may need. Have you checked for error codes?
@@gargamel3393 Thank you! My husband did exactly as you described! If we run into any questions, I will certainly ask. Thank you!!
I’ve been wondering what’s going on inside these Maytag “Commecial” washers! You’ve got a great channel, Ben. Thanks for the insight. My mom had a matching set of the Kenmore 90 series (although now that I think about it, it may have been the 80 series) when I was growing up and now I’m desperately trying to find a good condition set to replace the horrible Whirlpool Direct Drive front load garbage I inherited when my fiancé moved in. I’ve considered SQ, but man the price is eye watering, and frankly I already know how to fix the common issues on these old WP/Kenmores.
Why is the DD horrible ? They were done of the best washers ever built ?
I did appliance repair for years , about a third of the time the appliance was unplugged or turned off , or had a switch for the dishwasher , the other third was clogged with dirt/goo/crud and they didn't know how to get it apart , the last third needed a part . seeing a new clean machine come apart was worth watching , my Maytag turned 40 !
I have those Kenmore washer and dryer set you showed. Almost 25 years old. One minor repair on the washer and still going strong. My appliance guy recommends keeping until they're no longer fixable. Will probably go with SQ when that time comes.
I bought washer of this set a year ago. It is the best washer I've used in 30 years. The deep cycle with the presoak does use more water, but it will get even your soiled clothes perfectly clean every time. The jury is still out on how long it will last, but I consider it an investment for many reasons.
Good luck, Mine lasted 6 years to the day. The washer tore up many towels and rugs, though, so I ended up washing everything on Delicate. Just ordered a Speed Queen TC5 and won't miss the Maytag.
20 years ago I bought a pair of Maytag Atlantis washer/dryer for about $1000 OTD on the set. Still running perfect with no issues what so ever and I'm ready to ago another 20 years without no issues. Now my neighbor bought a set of Samsung for about 3K about 10 years ago and had to replace both of them due to the cheap computer chips going kaput! Also, I was visiting my family last year and saw that my sister purchased a set of the Samsung. I was going to tell her to get ready to replace them in a few years (or right after her warranty expired; that's a whole another story as you may know), but held off on giving her the bad but true news! The garbage out there is engineered to break down well before it's time...that how these manufacturers line their pockets!!!
This is an excellent review! I watched the whole thing. I have one of those Kenmore 90 series propane gas dryers. I always pull the front of it off every year and unplug it and vacuum out all the extra lint and clean out the duct in the back. I was really interested in seeing how close that new Maytag looks to my old Kenmore dryer. Super interesting!
Yet, back when you purchased the dryer, they didn't try and call it industrial. Today, after realizing or actually knowingly selling junk, they are bringing back old designs and calling it industrial and charging premium prices. This is some shitty scummy bullshit.
I've had hundreds if not a thousand of these appliances, and actually appreciate you taking the time to show what is in the expensive new machines. I cant afford these and know that older Whirlpool designs can last for decades, so I stick with those since they are easy to repair and the parts are cheap and often interchange. The Kenmore 90 series King Size are some of my favorites along with the Maytag washers with stainless drums and direct drive transmissions. People literally throw them away when the first minor issue arises like a $6 fuse that takes 5 minutes to fix. This video shows that manufacturers are now making junk and they know it because of the updates/differences pointed out. What did not surprise me is them using the old superior analog designs. "Analog is King" is what I say about these appliances.
Yep, love the old washer and dryers. I have an appointment building, 40 units. Washer and dryer, I only want to work on older Maytag, whirlpools, and actionable Amana. The commercial Maytag have gotten soon expensive lately, may have to go back to residential version. The Maytag dryers are sooooo easy to work on.... Most times it just someone overloaded, and blue a $2 fuse, that can be replaced in 15 minutes.
@@timpetr I tried to convince a guy with a bunch of rentals to just use similar models so all the parts interchanged and were easiest to work on. He had a whole pole barn full of random broken machines...makes no sense...he was looking for someone to fix them all.
@@zepar221 900000%. Lower inventory, don't have to know the nuances of every brand. Don't like LG, not in love with Samsung, and don't like GE. Ever change fuses on a Ge or Samsung electric dryer? Compared to Maytag, whirlpool? So much easier and straight forward.
@@timpetr Also, the renters can overload the washers and never clean the lint filters which is what really trashes the machines...along with way too much nasty detergent and softners
@@timpetr Avoid Samsung like the plague...Yes, I prefer old Whirlpool direct drive oil bath transmissions- cheap parts and easy to fix...I really need to learn to rebuild the transmissions.
This video is IMPORTANT and VALUABLE for consumers. I've done repairs on my own appliances and have mixed feelings about different brands. I believe every brand has some components that could be (should be) more reliable.
New subscriber here. Your videos are in my " best of TH-cam " category. I've never learned as much from one video as I've learned from yours! Thank you for your hard work and your ability to explain and compare stuff.
Thank you so much
You what makes me really happy...The Kenmore off-set I bought for $250 about 4 years ago is basically this set. I did replace the hub and tranny last year and a few parts on the dryer but considering they were already 10 years old, I call that a win and hopefully can get 10 more years out of them.
I LOVED my Kenmore!! : )
My husband decided my Kenmore wasn't good enough to repair so he wasted money on a new Speedqueen. : (
Kinda makes you wince a little when you grew up with a real Maytag. No matter how you slice it, it’s no where near as tough!
Yes, they were REALLY well built and different from other brands. Now they’re just like the others and nowhere near as tough
I have a magtag wringer washer in the basement, fully functional, a warhorse.
Excellent, sir. You stayed in character with the hat while breaking it all down for us! Love your videos!
Went with one of these over the speed queen. After a few years it’s still working great! Good info about the warranty, mine came from an appliance store with the five year warranty.
Hey Ben Always look forward to your expertise and excellent reviews. Great work
Yeah I skipped getting it from Lowes because the warranty issue, I found it in stock and on sale at a local appliance store. Im very happy with it, cleaning is great and its fairly fast. I looked at the Speed Queen but they was a 8 week delay and it would have been an extra $300.
After I ordered a commercial Speed Queen washer, I noticed that Lowe's sells the Maytag commercial washer and dryer. I probably would have bought the Maytag. Thanks for the great video.
Good video. I've seen these Maytag commercial washers at the local appliance dealer. We've have a Speed Queen for some time now; seems to be great. At any rate, I would only buy a commercial top loader washer. Well worth the extra money. Best to buy appliances from a local yokel dealer that takes care of you.
My only complaint with this washer is that the drum won't fill if the lid is open. Other than that, I'm very happy with mine. Very cool to see it taken apart.
I hate that new feature, it seems to be on all of them now.
And if you leave the lid up too long it will drain all the water out and you'll have to start all over again!
Wow holy shit, that’s fascinating the dryer is essentially a 90 Series base. Kenmore 90 Series machines are what I use, I have had many of the 70/80/90 Series machines and rarely have had a problem, when I do, it’s a simple job. Good to know I can buy a new one still.
Excellent. You answer my question at the end. GW vs KW. 3/5yr warranty vs. 1 yr warranty. Good to know!
Funny I was like I have the old Kenmore washer and dryer just like in your video still going strong after at least 20 years. I checked my local Lowes for the Maytag Commercial online and the PDF warranty showed a 10 year time period. Thanks for your video.
I have a Maytag Atlantis dryer, maybe twenty years old, still a Newton built machine and still going strong. I've been through five top-load washers since then including the matching Atlantis, two Whirlpool Hurlpoops, a GE, and a Korea-Pride LG. Currently using a Speed Queen TC5000.
I do as well, but that was made when Maytag was Maytag and not Whirlpool. Also have a Washing machine bought same time, again a real Maytag.
A fine video, with warranty advice unavailable to consumers elsewhere, notably the dealers.I was a factory tech (GE)for a long time & appreciate your passion for major appliances.
I bought a Maytag washer and dryer in 1987. Still working 36 years later in 2023. Have had a repair person out for the dryer twice and the washer once--and that was just a fluke, the sensor that stops the spin when door opens got stuck. My Maytag repairman is definitely lonely.
I bought a set of these almost 2 years ago from Lowes. The drive hub had to be replaced twice, at month 15 and month19, out of warranty. Mine only has the 1 year warranty. Not happy with it.
Best washer is a Speedqueen..top loader with mechanical controls and standard agitator..
I went with Speed Queen for my washer and dryer - 7 year in home warranty. Built like a tank !
Love your videos even though I’m not mechanicaly gifted! Please do a video on residential front load washers and/or discuss advantages/disadvantages of both top and front loaders. I’m an apartment dweller. Would also like your opinion on ventless clothes dryers. Thank you!
Maytags reputation was built on the old models. I worked on them during the 70's and 80's. Very reliable but not cheap to build. All the major manufacturers redesigned their machines cheaper to manufacture . Older machines would last 25 to 30 years . You are lucky to get 5 to 10 with new ones. Too much plastic
I watched your previous review of this washer and bought it a couple of months ago...and am very happy with it. I did, per your advice, get the one with the longer warranty.
I didn't need the dryer, as I'm old-fashioned and prefer to dry my laundry on a clothesline. 😂
I got a floor sample and paid just a little over $800. for it...complete with tax, delivery, installation and hauling my old machine away...which is about what I would have paid for any other less-than-cheapo machine.
I was considering buying a Speed Queen, but the price was much higher and I didn't like the back-and-forth agitator.
Only thing I don't like is the way it fills on the warm cycle. It switches from cold to hot water noisily instead of blending the flow smoothly in the machine. Doesn't matter all that much to me because I have dirty work clothes and use the hot setting most of the time. The water isn't all that hot on the hot setting, so it's OK for my needs...for both the dirty work clothes and bulk items such as towels, sheets and blankets. Anything delicate I usually hand-wash.
The machine is much more quiet than my old Hotpoint. I have to check to see if it's still running or if it's turned off...and the basket is big enough for me to wash two or three queen-size blankets, quilts or mattress pads at one go and have them come out clean.
Thank you for your past review. Made buying a good washing machine very easy for me. 😊
My relay was faulty after a month. I was shocked but the warranty took care of it. I love this machine, it’s fast and simple. My daughter comes to wash her clothes because of the speed and wash huge loads in half the time. I just bought my mom a set since her 10 year old Samsung gave up (piece of crap). She cares for my dad and does a lot of laundry. I’m excited she gets laundry done quickly and cleaner.
Glad I found this interesting channel. I'm in the utility industry now, but as a young tech at a rental company I remember when the "Design 2000" platform was introduced. And it was awesome. I quipped that anyone with two thumbs and a screwdriver could fix it. Around (the year) 2000 My old GE washer became a problem and I found a no-name top load washer (Igles) that was based upon the D-2000. It still works fine of course.
Will still stick with speed Queen the extra is worth it in long run
I wish speed queen made kitchen appliances it would make my research a whole lot easier.
@@mikeyd5969 that would great if they made other than washer/dryer. Would be built like a tank and run almost forever whatever it would be
Thomas Waits: Nothing matches the Speed Queen in longevity for sure. The only brand to claim to last 25 years guaranteed! The New Speed Queen TC 5003 is the way to go. 5 year warranty on everything on this model SPEED QUEEN!
@@mikeyd5969 👍. Speedqueen is the best
i concur, Speed Queen is the best top loader and front loader.
If this hss a 1&1/2hp motor, it would draw like 10 amps or over a kw. For a Whirlpool, its their best, but it's still Whirlpool. It will need that warranty!
I’ve seen those at the laundromat, and the attendant said they break a lot and require an electronics savvy tech to repair. I’ve also seen them for sale in Lowes, and they aren’t cheap, >$1000 for each component.
The issue with them being true blue Laundry is that people torture those machines beyond reasonable cases. I wouldn't suggest these to a laundromat owner because you'd want to go with frontloads almost exclusively in a format that takes all advantages of an inntention build laundromat.
But for residences, it's a good compromise between form and function, IMO
Ugh those rollers on the dryer look close to my 5 year old bravos Xl ,as a homeowner I was frustrated taking the retainer clips holding them .But other then the screeching it made before I changed them ,its working like a champ.Been 3 years since I changed.Ty for the video im sorry to see whirlpool still up to there old games.
Yeah, I bought the washer a few years ago, and it's been by far the best one I've ever used. Gets my shop clothes clean and the tub seems to stay clean. I also prefer the simple controls, I don't need ten thousand different options and play me music when it's done
I got a 10 year warranty version of this set earlier this year (with the gas version of that dryer since thats what my house is set up for) - I also discovered the difference in the warranty between the two sets. There was also a single part difference I could find between them - there was an additional warranty badge sticker on the top of the units advertising the longer warranty! At least its something consumers can look out for. I do have to commend maytag for making these way more accessible to buy than speedqueen - I could not find anyone selling speedqueen in my area.
My Maytag washer is from 1985 (extra large, almond color). Back then it cost $5.00 more for almond which I felt was nicer than white and I still like today. I have changed the belt twice and had to replace a rubber type grommet seal about an 1 inch diameter round thing in the center of the tub after taking off the agitator cone. Also, I have re-greased the snubber hub teflon pads with 3m silicon paste. Machine works perfect like new, looks like brand new and I love it, never will I buy new - first thing is that I don't like the locking lid and the new one use less water.
Plus you have a true MAYTAG WASHER not an "imitation one".!!!!!!!!!!!! 👍 👍 👍 💪 💪 💪
it will last a long time
@@dknowles60 Yes, I bought it brand new in 1985, it has lasted 37 years so far. If you buy the best, you only have to buy it once.
@@groovy1937 and the good news is you can still get parts online or Ebay and the ` and i would like to buy a 1985 it has a better transmission but my 1997 is ok
@@groovy1937 I have a set from 1988 I think, give a year either way. The washer doesn't spin dry very well so I use a little spin dryer with 3400 rpm cycle, does the job. I prefer this set up to buying a new machine.
Thank you for this video. Exact set I wanted to buy when we any issues out of "she had to have front loader" set we have now.
I had these exact machines. Bought them brand new in August 2019. I had them for 7 months and the washing machine would turn itself on whenever it wanted. The water wouldn't fill to the proper levels and it would randomly just turn itself off mid cycle full of soapy water! like, wtf!? After 3 service calls and a lot of bitching and yelling at Whirlpool, I FINALLY got refunded my money for the machine and ended up purchasing a Huebsch or AKA Speed Queen TC5. I told whirlpool they were going to be responsible if my house caught on fire and that seemed to smarten them up fairly quickly. They took the old machine back and they are conducting research on it to see what the flaws were. But to spend around the TWO THOUSAND DOLLAR price tag for a supposed 'quality american made maytag/whirlpool washer, you expect it to last... and it didnt! AND on top of it all, it sounded like a fucking duck quacking every time it 'agitated' .. so much happier with the Heubsch.. run far away from these garbage fake commercial washers and do yourself a favor and buy a classic old school american made machine from Alliance Laundry Systems.
Wow, great video. I've been buying Whirlpool machines for15+ years, refurbishing them and reselling them. I hated the VMW's when they came out. Total junk IMO. They did improve somewhat over the years but were still pretty bad washers. The Direct Drive washers were fantastic. We sill use our 2004 Kenmore Elite W/D set. I actually like the 2006-2014 machines with the Stator Motors that replaced the DD's. Yeah, the bearings fail in 10 years give of take (tub seal leaks and washes the grease out of the bearings) but I've become really good at replacing the shaft, bearings and seals on them.... ONLY using OEM parts (I learned that lesson the hard way). I really like the re-cir pump idea on them. Wow, Whirlpool, good for you bringing back the triple action agitator with the Dogs on these newer VMW machines. What took you so long? I figured these so called Commercial VWM's were just a bunch of hype but after seeing your video maybe I won't avoid these now . I still worry about the shaft seal leaking and ruining the transmission. That's what caused the transmissions (AKA gearcases) to fail in the 2006-2014's and in the VMW's.
Thanks for making this review, I'd still like to see Whirlpool bring back the DD washers with a stainless steel basket that's somewhat larger. Cheers, Neill
I'm not interested in saving water, I want clean clothes and a wash drum that does not stink as well as longer-term life and reliability of appliance.
Bought washer and dryer there maytag bravos series and didn't last one year the washer failed.transmission,washer plate stripped out,hot and cold water valves,spin tub clutch pack.the dryer timer failed and couple sencers failed.
That's unfortunate...I found if it said Bravos or Cabrio on it, I would usually kick it into the scrap yard.
Thanks! I wish I had watched this first. I just purchased the MVW7232HC and MED7230HC. The GW models you recommend are on closeout and cheaper on Maytags site...
I purchased two of these washers (residence & vacation home). They are a breath of fresh air! Lots of water; and the they actually agitate the clothes. Worth every dollar!
One minor complaint: the washer and matching dryer seem to be of different heights. ??
We were on the hunt for a new washer recently. We looked into this machine. I watched some videos of it, and I hated how it sounded. It just sounded cheap. Plus, we read numerous reviews that people had major electronic failure, as well as people who needed new transmissions. We went with a Speed Queen TC5, couldn't be happier.
We have the GW model it is quiet and reliable.
I really want to trade my tc5 for this.
@@DylBuilder1 Good luck if you do. Mine crapped out and tore up towels and small bathroom rugs before that. Just ordered a TC5.
@@citybright8925 I went a slightly different route, and replaced the SQs with a Maytag front loading set back in January, and it's been the best set i've ever owned. Would highly recommend! The TC5 had numerous control board and sensor problems, and for something that is supposed to last 25 years, that's not what i was expecting :/
@@DylBuilder1 I don't want a front loader. Have a Maytag front loader at vacation house, it 's fine there. The Maytag MVWP586GW has plastic gears, water level issues, numerous buyer complaints and too close in price to TC5 to even consider, imo.
I am astonished to see that these type of crap is still made in the US. Oh boy, thats remind me to the early 70s where those machine looks like this. A panel looking like it was made in the garage by some drunken painter, open screw heads, an ancient door style and a power knob from the kindergarten. Unbelievable.
I have this exact same washer. I bought it specifically for the good reviews and the warranty. I purchased mine directly from Maytag so I have the 5 year warranty. I did have a front loader for years and it was a piece of junk. Yes the machine uses a lot of water but you know what my clothes are clean now. I also have a well so don't really have to worry about a water bill.
Loved the video. Thank you. Question on the dryer rollers: plastic clips like on the mt bravo? Or metal c clips?
I went to an appliance store yesterday to purchase a set and apparently this model is already discontinued.
They sold me it’s successor which (from photos alone) looks similar but with an additional knob for water fill.
Hopefully my purchase is a good one, as there are very few reviews online, and it was quite expensive.
How has the washer been for you ? Do you like it ?
@@patcola7335 I’m happy with the purchase so far. Cleans great, simple to operate and the water fill selector is a must. I work in the trades and my work clothes come home quite dirty at times but the washer does not disappoint in its cleaning ability.
For the price i would have expected the start button to feel a bit more premium, and the knobs are quite nice, but the mechanical timer of the dryer feels mushy. Definitely not as solid as my older 35 year old unit.
My main concerns in purchasing a set were long term reliability and repairability but this is still tbd as it’s not even a year old yet.
Let me know If you have any specific questions and i will answer best i can.
I love your videos Ben. One thing I've noticed, is most of the parts in these two units are made in China, which makes me question the reliability. It seems like only 10 - 20 percent of Chinese made goods, are reliable.
On the washer I can see 10 to 15 years if the new beatings hold out. Dryer will probably survive forever if you can refurb the timer in 10 years.
@@bensappliancesandjunk They'll hold out until morale improves. 😆
Great video once again! I agree about the dryer being a great serviceable machine but the lint screen holders in the door always need cleaned out more often than the old top lint screen dryers. I don't trust that dryer timer though. I have seen so many burned out ones from all brands under the Whirlpool umbrella. I find that it fails equally in a nice Maytag or a cheap Admiral. Fortunately they are not too expensive and can be swapped in and out of other similar dryers but another thing that is cheap for no reason is the dryer timer clamp things vs a couple 1/4 inch screws. I also have saved old control boards and wiring from Whirlpool dryers and used it on a Whirlpool with a bad board. You get the best.of everything. A great bottom unit and an older more reliable timer. I wish I could post a couple pictures of some of my Frankenstein machines.
Nice! Yes I agree. I mentioned in the video that I don't like these dryer timers - it's a weak point and I wished they used the older timers. But other than that, the dryer is really nice.
At some point in the next century or two I might upgrade my washer/dryer but currently my matched set Kenmore model 110 units built in 1986 are still running just fine. I purchased these used back in the late 1990's and it was the best investment I ever made. Currently the washer/dryer and my newer model Maytag refrigerator which I just placed in storage as I recently moved into an RV trailer home which already has those items. So I've put my stuff in storage until a point I get into another house and then I'll put them back into service. It's worth mentioning that my Kenmore washer is the John Travolta model as it likes to dance in spin mode and so I go sit on it until it balances out. Doesn't seem to hurt it none and has never failed me.
I was very impressed by your video and am sold on the idea of using a 5-year warranty as a guide for quality and reliability. That said, this Maytag washer is a bit small for my needs. Could you recommend another Maytag, SQ, or GE, etc. that is a little larger capacity but still has the 5 year warranty/commercial grade quality? I've looked pretty hard, but it's hard to find another like this one or a SQ (which are also a little small). Thank you and I've watched some of your other videos. --Steve
MVW6230RHW is what you are looking for. Make sure it’s “RHW” at the end for the 5 year warranty. The RHW is only found at “exclusive” mom and pop stores. If it’s only MVW6230HW without the “R” it is only 1 year warranty and those are found at the chain stores (Home Depot, Lowe’s, Best Buy, etc)
Interesting that you describe the Design 2000 as the best Whirlpool ever made. When I went to appliance repair school in 1988 Whirlpool had been making belt drive washers for at least 25 years...and mostly unchanged in those years. The school was able to procure ONE Design 2000 washer for us to see...they were brand new. EVERY SINGLE instructor...and there were probably 20 part timers described the new design as "junk made out of plastic." The instructors had all worked on belt drives all their lives. They were heavy, made of all metal...and were EXTREMELY durable. I started my business looking at direct drives as junk. They were definitely not as well made as belt drives but they proved themselves after MULTIPLE changes in the design. Whirlpool actually DROPPED the Design 2000 designation because it became synonymous with bad quality...again...they did make some changes that helped a LOT. Personally I am not a big fan of VMW washers. They break too much and after 5 to 8 years most are worn out. You did a great job of identifying the upgrades in the commercial machines...I did not know most of that information. I still wouldnt buy one over a commercial Speed Queen with no locking lid and fully mechanical drive system...just got one for daughter #1. I can show son in law how to change the pump and belt and it will last probably 25 years only replacing those items. Lastly...Whirlpool warranty is all but nonexistent if you actually expect a human to come to your house. I CONSTANTLY get calls from new Whirlpool product owners IN warranty that Whirlpool just says "there is nobody to send." I also heard that Whirlpool Factory Service...Whirlpool trained and supported techs is ending completely. Keep up the good fight...you are making us old timers proud.
I loved the no spin calls. Pop the cabinet, pull the motor, replace coupler, done.
@@dougaranda6187 actually the direct drive Whirlpool no spin calls were usually lid switch malfunction
@@rogerwhiting9310 That too, but I’d have to say more mangled couplers.
@@dougaranda6187 maybe way back when the couplers were flimsy and no metal...they weren't nearly as strong. I do 10 lid switches to 1 coupler
@@rogerwhiting9310 metal couplers are bad...they round the motor shafts and ruin perfectly good motors...the engineers used plastic for a reason - it's supposed to fail.
Bought my 1987 Maytag A212 used 15 years ago
It still works perfectly after 25 years!
I bought it for $50 when my $1200 Neptune lost the trunnion bearing failed after 4.5 years
Ben, Another great one. We have a Whirlpool Match Set that came with a house we built in 2001. The parts in these look very familiar. Keep up the good work.
The dryer is potentially identical but an update. Washer action will be a lot different as it's electronic
@@bensappliancesandjunk Yep, the dryer look really close as I recall. I had to replace the heater ($30 on Amazon). The washer is different. As I recall my washer has no belt. But it is 20 years old and works fine. I replaced the 3 little plastic dogs in the agitator and a "pump" I believe. It was easy and cheap to fix both times so I can't complain.
Considering Whirlpool makes Maytag I would imagine the parts are the same.
Whirlpool Corp. (WHR) is a leading home appliance company that sells products under a wide variety of brands such as Whirlpool, KitchenAid, Maytag, Amana, Jenn-Air, and Consul.
Why did they go to the inferior suspension rods industry wide?
My suspension rods just went out on my Maytag MCT which is about 7 years old. Trying to figure out if I should replace them or just by this Maytag commercial one.
My repairman said rhey started to require suspension rods after some got injured moving washers that had tubs bolted to the ground.
Gear case is no different than residential. Same goes for the splutch and shifter. Generally console and controller are different.
The gear case I ran into went bad . Within 8 months.
1 year ago I bought both commercial Maytag equipment and I am very satisfied with the decision and my wife also very informative the video of these equipment greetings from Puerto Rico island of charm thanks😊😊😊
Hope you are safe in Puerto Rico!
@@bensappliancesandjunk thank you very much for the concern even without electricity company Luma we are alive thank god
My 25 year old Maytag set has never needed a repair till now and I hope it can be fixed because I know they aren’t any good now. I absolutely don’t want a lid lock, many times I lift the lid and add a piece of laundry, boy a lot of those parts looks kind of cheap.
I inherited (purchased for $200) my parent's 1992 Sears Kenmore Series 90 Super capacity washer and dryer in 2004 when they decided to buy a new condo which came with top of the line Maytags. It didn't take them long to want the Kenmore washer (basically a Whirlpool Direct Drive Unit) AND the dryer returned! They had problems with both units involving Electronic Keypads and the washer did have a problem with the transmission. I had no such problems and I refused their offer to buy the Kenmore's back lol.
Fast forward to earlier this year (2023) and I encountered my FIRST ever problem which turned out to be carbon tracking on the motor speed select switch that is attached to the motor itself. It took about 2 hours total time to remove the motor and isolate the problem, replace the part and close it back up. Fairly easy repair and amazingly, the part is available brand new (about $70) but I found a virtually brand new switch on ebay for $22. End of story. I do believe those late 80's - 90's Whirlpool Direct drive units are the best consumer units ever made. I have a neighbor who actually sold appliances back in the old days and he advised me to never get rid of these units. He said to just replace whatever might break because the quality of those older Whirlpools (Kenmores) is unbeatable.
I’ve been fixing appliances for over 37 years … their commercial duty washers are absolute junk !! Whirlpool took their regular junk washer guts and put it in a heavier duty shell . Just a pig with lipstick !!!
What's your favorite that might still be found?
Thank you for a great video. I have a Sears Kenmore washer that is leaking under the bottom of it. I don't know whether to fix it or purchase a new washer. The washer is about 30 years old. Your input is greatly appreciated.
First, you need to identify the source of the leak. If it's a broken tub, you'll probably want to get a new one. If it's leaking at the drain pump, drain hose, pump hose, pressure hose,or bleach dispenser hose, it's an affordable fix. If it's leaking at the tub seal, the parts are inexpensive but changing it is a bit involved for a DIY repair.
Great info glad I found you
Could tell me who makes the kitchen aid electric stoves and their fridges
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As a native Iowa boy it pained me when a dumba** CEO basically destroyed with his decisions, what was a great company. Growing up the one thing you could depend on was the washer/dryer would last forever if taken care of. However, I was glad at least Whirlpool understood the pride that accompanied the brand kept it. Great video. I have a 22 yo Maytage with strictly mechanical controls which still serves me well.
Maytag has gone to Hell. Our first set last over 20 years, so we thought why not upgrade? That was the worst thing we could have done. Well, not as bad as buying a fridge, and dishwasher, also from maytag, at the same time. The washer is the most annoying thing ever, and we have already had to repair it once. The fridge is terrible, the way they did that front door was, a terrible design. We have had the ice maker replaced already. The dishwasher worked ok for a while, and the computer went bad, and we are still waiting on that part.
I feel that they have gone downhill since Whirlpool purchased the Maytag Co.
@@muziklvr7776 You see that a lot. A good brand name sells out and lets another company ruin the name. I would NEVER recommend maytag these days or whirlpool.
There is no profit in appliances that last decades...dont forget to conserve and be green while these corporations make mountains of trash and cash.
I expect them to last at least 1 year before I gotta pay to have it fixed btw still waiting on the dishwasher part.
We have 17 year old Maytag Neptune model, they have worked every day, dryer starting to get a little noisy
But still works good,
this is REALLY interesting as i never knew that the 5 year set existed.. I bought speed-queen in 2019 and this set seemed to be new on the market then.. but when i compared the 2, my speed queen came with a 7 year wrranty and these were 1.. so I gave no firther look to these even though I tended to like the faster agitation action than my speed-queen TR7 provides (althiough my speed queen gets the cklothes clean despite its seemingly more lethargic wash action).. thus far 3 and a half years later I dont regret buying the speed queen at all.. its a great set.. 0 issues so far.. but had I seen the 5 year warranty version of these i wouldve given them a good fair chance..
I knew these were nonsense the moment they came out.
If you have an older Maytag, a Whirlpool direct drive, or a transmission Speed Queen? KEEP IT!
ditto that
This guy knows..lol
I'm still sticking with the Speed Queen
TC5003WN Washer they were built to last, it's worth the extra money.
Oh yeah, for sure. The next set I'd love to tear down would be that set. To me its the difference between eeking out a little more capacity in the MVWP575/6 or the more reliability on the TC5003WN. I've seen people argue both sides for years, and its a hard choice, but both have big fans.
@@bensappliancesandjunk I think that would be a great video. We have a TC5, but it really was between these two for us. But it felt like the reviews or comparisons were all biased towards one or the other from the start.
I am considering junking my 2 year old Maytag Centennial because I can’t seem to fix it even after watching your excellent videos.
We have a Maytag Centennial washer mod# MVWC416FW1 ser# C74835121 which won’t complete a wash cycle. I have followed the test procedures in the service technicians handbook which came with the unit. All of the voltage and resistance tests are within specs. The automatic test mode checks out, in the manual test mode all functions and components work as well.
I reset the control unit and ran a calibration. The water supply (pressure and volume) is OK (same as it was when we first installed it) the drain pump has no restrictions (great discharge volume) the line for the pressure sensor is intact and not restricted nor is the port of the pressure dome on the tub. The codes that continue to return are F8 E1 (no/long fill) and F8 E3 (over fill) which leads me to suspect the pressure transducer on the circuit board has malfunctioned. There is no specific test for the pressure sensor but I did apply ~30 mbar to the sensor and the pump ran for ~5 minutes. Page 17 test #6 of the manual notes that “usually if the pressure transducer malfunctions the washer will generate a long fill or long drain error”. At this point I feel that the next step would be to replace the circuit board and run a calibration test. Thank you for taking the time to read this and if you have any other insight into this problem I would most appreciate your advice. Jim. P.S. these units have had light duty service for just over 2 years and have worked well (as well as an HE washer can work) in a clean dry dedicated laundry room, so can I assume that these boards are a common problem?
It makes sense. The unit whether it be labeled commercial or residential being the same unit, would be designed for a certain number of hours of operation before failure. Given the same unit, one would need to pay extra for commercial warranty because of the high usage factor. If you can warranty commercial use for a reasonably cheap price , you can give a five year warranty for residential because the usage factor is low.
Ugh... drives me nuts that most of the smaller parts are all from China. I mean we seriously can't make that stuff? So sad...