You don't want that because if a primer flashes off, it will detonate the entire thing. The Dillon tube is strong enough to contain the blast but a plastic container full of primers is bound to send fragments everywhere.
I agree with Jason and Bootin...Direct feed into the machine. Make it 550, 650, 750, 1050, 1100 complaint. Just tell me where to send some cash! Flash off???? Really...You must be beating on your machine with a ball peen hammer!!!
This was needed years ago. I no longer use primer tubes in my reloading process. I tried all the tube loaders and gave up. I now prime my cases during the case insptection/decapping process using a Lee primer loader. If I wasn't, I would buy this.
Oh this is a God sent device. I am so happy someone is trying to remove the bottleneck priming causes in production. I am going to look into one of these asap.
Cool, I've got the Frankford Arsonel buzzzy loader and it's ok, but this would be a fantastic addition. But as Marcus Palmer said doing both large and small would be a bonus !
Sure looks good, better than Dillon's unit. Was hoping it'd be closer to $100. If my reloading volume increases I might reconsider. It'd really help if it could do both sizes of primers, that's the biggest issue.
I would only buy one if I could shoot a LOT more. Unless you’re loading a ton of ammunition (and already run a case and bullet feeder) I can’t imagine justifying it. You pretty much need to be just pulling the handle and watching the electronic alarms for powder charge, primer level, powder level, etc. I don’t even shoot enough to justify a case feeder. After a 100-300 rounds I am going to take a little break. Walk around a little bit. Sit down and load up a few more primer tubes, then get going again. It’s a great gizmo, but it’s only for high volume users.
I could never get my Frankford Arsenal Vibra Prime to work, all the hours I spent troubleshooting it could’ve been used to load primer tubes. This looks WAY better!
$200 you have options. DAA, get guy at exit with will work for food sign to fill your tubes as you load, tell the kids to fill the tubes as a chore, or even stop at your local Lowes for some over the border help.
Midway sold a vibrating primer loader for Dillon primer tubes for a lot less, a lot less, that worked. It was available years ago and I’ve been using it for years. Is is great for buck reloading
for that price id expect it to sit on the press and load small and large primers. maybe I would be more interested in version 2. I sure do hate loading primer tubes though
just checked the product page referenced Seems this product has quite some restrictions. 1. works only with dillon tubes 2. works not with all primers 3. Users have reported they have to make adjustments to the rig otherwise it would not work
Gavin must have received a special hand tuned prototype. My production model has tolerance problems with the plastic parts. It is very finicky. When it gets down to the last 20 primers my unit might get half of them passed to the tube but it could literally take half an hour. Fill it with 300 primers and start it. I can fill 2 tubes by hand, the old fashioned way before it will fill one tube. It has slots for the primers 360 degrees around the mechanism. They will only pass through the wheel on one small approximately 30 degree section that will actually pass primers. The one in this video works great. Mine passes between 0 to 3 primers per complete wheel revolution. It frequently “times out” and stops itself after making several revolutions without dropping a single primer. I must continually restart it. It is a huge time drain to get tubes loaded. My Dillon 1050 will prime cases faster than this device will fill tubes causing constant stoppages to my work flow. I really can’t recommend it.
cool gaget, I wouldn't be able to justify the price. For $200 I think I could find a better way to get the tubes filled. But I don't reload and shoot as much as some.
I've emailed Dillon and Federal and they both said that using Federal primers in a progressive press was a bad idea due to increased risk of detonation. I also heard that Lee specifically warns against Federal primers in their presses. Have you heard of this?
Never had a problem with Federal primers large/small on my XL650. I did detonate a large primer trying to fit into a small primer .45 auto case on a Lee Loadmaster one time, rang my ears but that was it. Now I hate loading .45 auto because of the primer size variations.
Am getting one for sure have Mark 7 650 Pro that runs 9mm at 810 per hour and don't start it unless I do a thousand. Currently use FA Vibra Prime modified and do a thousand primers in 10 tubes in about 7 minutes but you REALLY need to pay attention
Loading primers manually into tubess was the worst part of reloading. My solution was Hornady's "1911 auto primer." It is several times faster than that, 1/4 the cost, and can do either large or small primers. Total time to load 100 primers from primer package in hand to tube in press, about 15 seconds
I"m definatly down for one. Pre-ordered. I do have the FA Vibraprime and hate it with Winchester primers. And yes, I have tweaked the heck out of it and it is better than when I got it, but still a major PITA. Can't wait for this!!!
With a small needle file, I opened up the small primer hole just a tit towards the tray side and the Winchester primers flow now; just like CCI and Federal do.
This video just cost me 236$ I hope it works as well as he says. Now I need to see if I can make it load RCBS primers tubes as well as my Dillon ones. I use a RCBS bench primer for the stuff I do no the single stage press.
I really enjoy reloading I try to have everything match Lymann and I only reload for my .308 precision rifle and my ELR 300 rum so the hand held primer seater is all I need but this looks like a really cool unit and would be very helpful if someone is loading bull 223
Cool idea. The fact that it can’t do large primers makes it worthless to me though. Interesting that 3 years later they still haven’t come out with one.
Love the last 2 videos on (Evolution and this) reloading, unfortunately, the $ is way up above my wallet, I'll stick to my LEE and RCBS. Great to see the items in use though.
How many magnets does it come with? Seems like installing and removing the magnet, plus setting the clearance, takes longer than filling the tube, even longer than the old way.
Heck with the primer tube reloader what about the table! Neat how the reloading machine rides on rails so it can move side to side. Anyway the tube step to be eliminated so the primer loader can be attached directly onto the reloading machine's primer feed?
Something I found first time. The screws that hold feeder plate are very fussy. Too tight and primers won't make it to the top. Too loose and primers may get to tube upside down. I had to watch the tubes fill 6 times before it worked correctly. The hopper seems to always have 2 or 3 not able to get to top
@ Diesel Ramcharger Perhaps it is , but it’s up to the reloader whether they spend their money on it or not . You can be sure that many won’t , but many reloaders will buy it . Each to their own I guess. If I was reloading thousands of rounds a year I would buy it
Nice! But $200. I will just keep going with Frankford Arsenal Vibra Prime. It works very well for me. I am sure they will mount them on progressive in one day. Thanks for sharing!
Am I the only one who's upset about 99 primers? You're telling me they couldn't have designed it to feed 100? Does that not sound ridiculous to anyone else?
i must have been mistaken,but when this was announced i thought it was a primer collator that was mounted on the press that allowed one to not need to refill tubes . kinda like a bullet or case feeder , bot primer feeder
You could always buy the Mark 7 Revolution. That press is fully automated with primers collated on the press. Just dump in brass, powder, primers and bullets and press go. www.markvii-loading.com/loading-presses/revolution/101-1023.html
Loved your video on the Primer Pro. I am going to order one. Next question - Where can I get the slide rail/locks that you have on your reloading bench. I really want a set of those. Thanks.
So how long does it take to fill 1 primer tube? I thought you would have covered that in the video. Also can you really call it a pro if it only loads small primers? What if you want to load large primers? Do you need a second magnetic collar to fill a second tube in the background while your using the first tube of primers?
This is one of those options that the guy with everything will have to have. I have a F A and it works great for the money. It loads a tube is about 20 seconds. Thats fast enough for me.
Fine bitOkit. But I've given up on all progressive priming systems. Even on my Dillon. They all fail, and sometimes even go boom. I handprime as I watch TV, or TH-cam vids. Added bonus is an extra stage of brass QC.
Hi Gavin just watching the PrimerPro video Had a thought if you can find a permanent place on your bench for the Primer Pro why not drill a hole through the bench for the tube to sit in Regards Mark from the UK
Waste of money. It literally takes 1 minute to load a primer tube for free, $200 one size and 59 seconds to fill a tube with primers that need to be sprayed with silicon to feed proper, no thanks.
A product like this would be more attractive if it was designed to mount right on the press and to feed the primers directly into the primer magazine tube. Why fill a transfer tube when you could just fill the press tube directly?... you could have different mounting kits for different presses.
It looks like it works well, but the $200 price tag doesn't make financial sense. I have a 5 pack of tubes and an RCBS primer tray, I can load my tubes while I'll watching TV during a commercial break and I'm set to load 500 rounds. That keeps my cost per round down. I have two of the double alpha academy case feeder tube assemblies. I got them till hold me over until I could afford a case feeder, but they work so great, I don't think I need a case feeder. The whole idea of reloading was to save money on ammunition, buying more and more high tech accessories only make sense if they pay for themselves quickly. $200 would take about 6 years to pay for itself. Cool toy, not economically reasonable.
Pretty cool, but my thoughts are: $200, awkward bench orientation, foreign parts support, and small primers only? No thanks. I have a nice Entirely Crimson billet aluminum primer tube stand with a bunch of preloaded primer pickup tubes ready to go for each session. It does take a bit of time to load the tubes up front, but it’s not that much of a bother.
I'm just watching this to remember what primers look like. Ah, the dystopian hellscape we've created for ourselves.
now if they just make this so it sits up top and feeds straight to the press...
i was just going to comment this statement! if they did that i would tell them shut up and take my money! lol.
Don't see why one can't mount it up high with a longer or shorter tube attached. Just need to make the mounting brackets.
You don't want that because if a primer flashes off, it will detonate the entire thing. The Dillon tube is strong enough to contain the blast but a plastic container full of primers is bound to send fragments everywhere.
I agree with Jason and Bootin...Direct feed into the machine. Make it 550, 650, 750, 1050, 1100 complaint. Just tell me where to send some cash! Flash off???? Really...You must be beating on your machine with a ball peen hammer!!!
So buy a Mark 7 and you can get that option.
This was needed years ago. I no longer use primer tubes in my reloading process. I tried all the tube loaders and gave up. I now prime my cases during the case insptection/decapping process using a Lee primer loader. If I wasn't, I would buy this.
Never had a issue with my tube loader and have put thousands through it.
The clamps on your workbench are fantastic.
Dude the vibra prime from frankford arsenal!!!! And a handful of tubes you can load 1,000 primers in 10 tubes in 10 minutes.
I've got a similar Hornady product and I agree completely!
For The Win. Vibra-Prime from Frankford arsenal. Hands down.
Those DAA fellas are Hella smart!!
Got the Dillon rf100 primer filler. Best purchase ever. Looks like this one works decent as well and definitely costs less.
Oh this is a God sent device. I am so happy someone is trying to remove the bottleneck priming causes in production. I am going to look into one of these asap.
Cool, I've got the Frankford Arsonel buzzzy loader and it's ok, but this would be a fantastic addition. But as Marcus Palmer said doing both large and small would be a bonus !
Unit looks like a time saver,if one was able to obtain primers.Thanks!
Sure looks good, better than Dillon's unit. Was hoping it'd be closer to $100. If my reloading volume increases I might reconsider. It'd really help if it could do both sizes of primers, that's the biggest issue.
Ordered mine and can’t wait since mostly all I load in mass is small primers.
Perfect!
gavintoobe would you be interested in building a 300 prc for me
I would only buy one if I could shoot a LOT more.
Unless you’re loading a ton of ammunition (and already run a case and bullet feeder) I can’t imagine justifying it. You pretty much need to be just pulling the handle and watching the electronic alarms for powder charge, primer level, powder level, etc.
I don’t even shoot enough to justify a case feeder. After a 100-300 rounds I am going to take a little break. Walk around a little bit. Sit down and load up a few more primer tubes, then get going again.
It’s a great gizmo, but it’s only for high volume users.
I could never get my Frankford Arsenal Vibra Prime to work, all the hours I spent troubleshooting it could’ve been used to load primer tubes. This looks WAY better!
$200 you have options. DAA, get guy at exit with will work for food sign to fill your tubes as you load, tell the kids to fill the tubes as a chore, or even stop at your local Lowes for some over the border help.
My now grown children have fond memories of loading primer tubes :-D
seems pretty nice i guess the only thing to make better is having more tubes to load so one or two are always ready to go !
You actually only need one- fills in 30 seconds while you're loading! :)
I just got one of these and it works great. I only wish it would run out all of the primers.
That is awesome, can’t wait for it to come to market & hopefully improve on it like 1000 primer hopper.
Videos are very well produced! I don't have the budget for an "Exact" sizing die but am looking forward to your review. South African maker
Now if I could score some primers!!!
best one so far
Midway sold a vibrating primer loader for Dillon primer tubes for a lot less, a lot less, that worked. It was available years ago and I’ve been using it for years. Is is great for buck reloading
for that price id expect it to sit on the press and load small and large primers. maybe I would be more interested in version 2. I sure do hate loading primer tubes though
just checked the product page referenced
Seems this product has quite some restrictions.
1. works only with dillon tubes
2. works not with all primers
3. Users have reported they have to make adjustments to the rig otherwise it would not work
Definitely going to get one
This will really save a lot of time and frustration.
like your workshop and the shop video you made bud, that is sweet setup
I like the concept, but at $323 plus change, I can buy a lot of primers for that. I will stay with the old method, cheers
Gavin must have received a special hand tuned prototype. My production model has tolerance problems with the plastic parts. It is very finicky. When it gets down to the last 20 primers my unit might get half of them passed to the tube but it could literally take half an hour. Fill it with 300 primers and start it. I can fill 2 tubes by hand, the old fashioned way before it will fill one tube. It has slots for the primers 360 degrees around the mechanism. They will only pass through the wheel on one small approximately 30 degree section that will actually pass primers. The one in this video works great. Mine passes between 0 to 3 primers per complete wheel revolution. It frequently “times out” and stops itself after making several revolutions without dropping a single primer. I must continually restart it. It is a huge time drain to get tubes loaded. My Dillon 1050 will prime cases faster than this device will fill tubes causing constant stoppages to my work flow. I really can’t recommend it.
My Frankford Arsenal Vibra Prime does the same thing for a quarter the price.
Great information all the time.
cool gaget, I wouldn't be able to justify the price. For $200 I think I could find a better way to get the tubes filled. But I don't reload and shoot as much as some.
Just ordered one. Thx
I've emailed Dillon and Federal and they both said that using Federal primers in a progressive press was a bad idea due to increased risk of detonation. I also heard that Lee specifically warns against Federal primers in their presses. Have you heard of this?
I've used all types of Primers on Dillon 1100, Evo Mark 7, never had an issue with detonation from "ANY" primers!
Never had a problem with Federal primers large/small on my XL650. I did detonate a large primer trying to fit into a small primer .45 auto case on a Lee Loadmaster one time, rang my ears but that was it. Now I hate loading .45 auto because of the primer size variations.
Had to polish the ramp and lightly sand the drop hole for consistent operation. I’m betting 2.0 is what I should have waited for but I’m ok for now.
Am getting one for sure have Mark 7 650 Pro that runs 9mm at 810 per hour and don't start it unless I do a thousand. Currently use FA Vibra Prime modified and do a thousand primers in 10 tubes in about 7 minutes but you REALLY need to pay attention
I think I'm going to go with the Dillon it can do large and small primers plus I will have Dillon's customer service.
You'll be disappointed. Read the threads on Enos.
Loading primers manually into tubess was the worst part of reloading. My solution was Hornady's "1911 auto primer." It is several times faster than that, 1/4 the cost, and can do either large or small primers. Total time to load 100 primers from primer package in hand to tube in press, about 15 seconds
Completely agree. Takes me less than a minute to load a tube.
Looks useful
I was hoping for another box inside the smaller box.
I"m definatly down for one. Pre-ordered. I do have the FA Vibraprime and hate it with Winchester primers. And yes, I have tweaked the heck out of it and it is better than when I got it, but still a major PITA. Can't wait for this!!!
With a small needle file, I opened up the small primer hole just a tit towards the tray side and the Winchester primers flow now; just like CCI and Federal do.
Love your channel!
I don’t load ammo but I want that thing.
This video just cost me 236$ I hope it works as well as he says. Now I need to see if I can make it load RCBS primers tubes as well as my Dillon ones. I use a RCBS bench primer for the stuff I do no the single stage press.
I really enjoy reloading I try to have everything match Lymann and I only reload for my .308 precision rifle and my ELR 300 rum so the hand held primer seater is all I need but this looks like a really cool unit and would be very helpful if someone is loading bull 223
Cool idea. The fact that it can’t do large primers makes it worthless to me though. Interesting that 3 years later they still haven’t come out with one.
Why didn't they make a mount for above the machine and have it connect to the primer tube just like the brass and bullet feeders?
Love the last 2 videos on (Evolution and this) reloading, unfortunately, the $ is way up above my wallet, I'll stick to my LEE and RCBS. Great to see the items in use though.
Great concept but one size and $200 is a deal breaker.
How many magnets does it come with? Seems like installing and removing the magnet, plus setting the clearance, takes longer than filling the tube, even longer than the old way.
Heck with the primer tube reloader what about the table! Neat how the reloading machine rides on rails so it can move side to side.
Anyway the tube step to be eliminated so the primer loader can be attached directly onto the reloading machine's primer feed?
be great when they do the setup for both small and large primers.
I would like to see one under my Christmas tree 🎄
Oh Lord... Another step closer to heaven!!
HAHAHAHA, well said!!!!!
Something I found first time. The screws that hold feeder plate are very fussy. Too tight and primers won't make it to the top. Too loose and primers may get to tube upside down. I had to watch the tubes fill 6 times before it worked correctly. The hopper seems to always have 2 or 3 not able to get to top
No large primer seems like a major oversight.
They are testing the market to see if there is interest in it . Once they sell a thousand or two they’ll most likely make one to use large primers .
@Diesel Ramcharger I guess it’s for each reloader to decide if they a want to spend the extra money . Each to their own .
@ Diesel Ramcharger Perhaps it is , but it’s up to the reloader whether they spend their money on it or not . You can be sure that many won’t , but many reloaders will buy it . Each to their own I guess. If I was reloading thousands of rounds a year I would buy it
Really hope they or the aftermarket makes a solution to hook it directly to your press.
what and when for large primers ?
Nice! But $200. I will just keep going with Frankford Arsenal Vibra Prime. It works very well for me. I am sure they will mount them on progressive in one day. Thanks for sharing!
will this work will all primer tube or just dillion? can you use this with say hornady tubes?
That’s cool not a bad price 👈👍👍
I'd love to have one but, I only use large primers for all my rifles and only 2 9mm.
I ordered one.
Good thing I ordered it early on. Website says sold out till February 2020
Me wants. Thanks for the review.
I need this in my life!
Yes, you do!
Am I the only one who's upset about 99 primers? You're telling me they couldn't have designed it to feed 100? Does that not sound ridiculous to anyone else?
Is that where all the primers went?
If the MSRP is as stated .
Then it is an Outstanding Value :-D
i must have been mistaken,but when this was announced i thought it was a primer collator that was mounted on the press that allowed one to not need to refill tubes . kinda like a bullet or case feeder , bot primer feeder
You could always buy the Mark 7 Revolution. That press is fully automated with primers collated on the press. Just dump in brass, powder, primers and bullets and press go. www.markvii-loading.com/loading-presses/revolution/101-1023.html
You could design something to make it work that way
Loved your video on the Primer Pro. I am going to order one. Next question - Where can I get the slide rail/locks that you have on your reloading bench. I really want a set of those. Thanks.
So how long does it take to fill 1 primer tube? I thought you would have covered that in the video. Also can you really call it a pro if it only loads small primers? What if you want to load large primers? Do you need a second magnetic collar to fill a second tube in the background while your using the first tube of primers?
Fills in about 30 seconds! Only "need" one tube :)
Mmmmmm look at all that lovely primers.
Gee! Almost as fast as loading Lee round primer trays.
What if you just directly link the primer pro to the primer feed tube on the press?
Do they make one for Hornady progressive reloaders
This is one of those options that the guy with everything will have to have. I have a F A and it works great for the money. It loads a tube is about 20 seconds. Thats fast enough for me.
Sweet
The Hornady unit handles both small and large sizes and is much cheaper.
Will this do large primers? And if not will it do large primers on their next upgrade?
That’s nuts 🤗
which way are they oriented in the drop? could this be adapted to a Lee 6 Pack Pro?
Fine bitOkit.
But
I've given up on all progressive priming systems.
Even on my Dillon.
They all fail, and sometimes even go boom.
I handprime as I watch TV, or TH-cam vids.
Added bonus is an extra stage of brass QC.
Hi Gavin just watching the PrimerPro video Had a thought if you can find a permanent place on your bench for the Primer Pro why not drill a hole through the bench for the tube to sit in
Regards Mark from the UK
Does this only work for Dillon presses? I have a hornady lnl ap
Why not just make a mount to put it above the press....
Great machine. Unfortunately, I can’t buy even one small pistol primer anywhere. Machine would be a large paperweight for me.
Waste of money. It literally takes 1 minute to load a primer tube for free, $200 one size and 59 seconds to fill a tube with primers that need to be sprayed with silicon to feed proper, no thanks.
A product like this would be more attractive if it was designed to mount right on the press and to feed the primers directly into the primer magazine tube. Why fill a transfer tube when you could just fill the press tube directly?... you could have different mounting kits for different presses.
Are your reloading benches for sale anywhere?
thanks
It looks like it works well, but the $200 price tag doesn't make financial sense. I have a 5 pack of tubes and an RCBS primer tray, I can load my tubes while I'll watching TV during a commercial break and I'm set to load 500 rounds. That keeps my cost per round down. I have two of the double alpha academy case feeder tube assemblies. I got them till hold me over until I could afford a case feeder, but they work so great, I don't think I need a case feeder. The whole idea of reloading was to save money on ammunition, buying more and more high tech accessories only make sense if they pay for themselves quickly. $200 would take about 6 years to pay for itself. Cool toy, not economically reasonable.
Great product. Can you compare it to the Hornady or Frankford Arsenal hand units that are a quarter of the cost?
According to the DA website the cost of this thing is on the wrong side ($236.58) of $200. Sorry, but I can buy a lot of primers for that price!
It's $199 plus shipping. USPS starts at $11.95 while UPS can vary.
Yep- the $236 package has Dillon primer tubes included, here's the basic package for $199: www.doublealpha.biz/us/daa-primer-pro-collator
I only use cci and even with V2 am still getting upside downs
It is OK, and work well, but when they are under 100 primers, it tooks a year to fill it up. Have over 150 and it will be fine.
Is this compatible to work with the Hornady primer tube as well?
Take my money!
I'll keep my Dillon RF100, that constant clicking would annoy the ship out of me..
Ordered mine but ship date now shows months away. Disappointed.
Pretty cool, but my thoughts are: $200, awkward bench orientation, foreign parts support, and small primers only? No thanks. I have a nice Entirely Crimson billet aluminum primer tube stand with a bunch of preloaded primer pickup tubes ready to go for each session. It does take a bit of time to load the tubes up front, but it’s not that much of a bother.
Forgot what a primer looks like, anyone seen any?