Greece is the answer - VPRO documentary - 2013

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  • Is ailing Greece the start of a new Europe? Alternatives arising from the ruins of the bankrupt growth economy give citizens control over supply and demand. Local and social; a small-scale economy.
    Is ailing Greece the start of a new Europe? Will the cradle of democracy also become the cradle of a new economy? One in four Greeks is out of a job, the youth unemployment rate is approaching 60%, and the purchasing power of the average citizen has declined by 30%. But that is exactly what forces us to think out of the box. For from the ruins of the bankrupt growth economy rises a practicable alternative. The "potato movement" guides the way to a revolutionary new model, that is co-facilitated by the government. Local, social and elusive to futures and distributive trade. In the "no middleman" economy citizens are in control of supply and demand. After the tragedy of the old euro model, modern Greece stages a different economy: that of the smallest unit. Is this where the new Europe is built from the bottom up?
    Originally broadcasted by VPRO in 2013.
    © VPRO Backlight September 2013
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    Credits:
    Director: Alexander Oey
    Research: William de Bruijn
    Research Greece: Nikolas Leontopoulos
    Camera: Jackó van ‘t Hof
    Sound: Rik Meier, Jillis Schriel, Dimitris Vlachos
    Editor: Chris van Oers, Jaap de Goede
    Re-recording mixer: Marco Vermaas
    Color grading: Ronald van Dieren
    Producer: Jenny Borger, Helen Goossens, Marie Schutgens
    Commisioning editor: Henneke Hagen, Frank Wiering
    English, French and Spanish subtitles: Ericsson.
    French and Spanish subtitles are co-funded by European Union.

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  • @cathydemosthenous8694
    @cathydemosthenous8694 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Long live beautiful Greece !!!!!!

  • @nightArbitrage
    @nightArbitrage 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wish VPRO had a channel US television. Good stuff! Very Insightful.

    • @vprodocumentary
      @vprodocumentary  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you. The US can watch us directly on this channel!

  • @chopper421
    @chopper421 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Great Look at Greece from a different point of view! I look forward to your uploads more than church on sunday :)

  • @tattabox
    @tattabox 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    very interesting response to the economic crisis!

  • @MrJoefung007007
    @MrJoefung007007 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I dont know why this life mattering awesome documentary ends up with 700 view so far. Everybody shuld see this.

    • @vprodocumentary
      @vprodocumentary  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your appreciation. This documentary was uploaded yesterday only, but if you share it, we will get more views. :)

    • @jimkirk989
      @jimkirk989 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      AGREED, everybody SHOULD see this!!!!!!!!!

    • @prajeshchitrakar870
      @prajeshchitrakar870 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please add subtitles.

  • @yuweexxx534
    @yuweexxx534 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW! So glad I'm subscribed and watched this video.

  • @rosaallen5205
    @rosaallen5205 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thinking back to the Spanish cooperatives, they should do the same in Greece for the water plant. That way the citizens control it through buying it, and the government does not. They'll be able to make a profit and they'll be able to make sure that it is not priced too high or bad water quality because they live there themselves.

    • @vprodocumentary
      @vprodocumentary  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting comment, have you watched this documentary? th-cam.com/video/Mwwq3ujkfkU/w-d-xo.html

    • @thanosv3343
      @thanosv3343 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We've tried doing that through the 157 movement, where everyone pledged 157 euros to buy our local water company. Guess what, they didn't accept the bid! No excuses where offered either! Greece is not a sovereign nation, we've been a colony for a long time now and our governments are all funded by other interests. Our national phone company was privatised and is now called ---DRUMROLL--- Deutsche Telecom! Kudos to the brits for leaving the fourth reich that EU is becoming.

  • @liang8255
    @liang8255 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Greece, Spain, France and Italy is living on its agro and tourisme, it is not that that hard to survive without industry if your population is relatively small.
    The industry particularly 21st century industry does not favor Europe at all, everyone should be busy to build alternatives now.

  • @csaurabh4864
    @csaurabh4864 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Is this a 2013 production?! It's such a powerful and great story, I wonder why it took so long to be released! It is very similar to the Blockchain concept but in the real world - revolutionary.
    Also, must commend the amazing documentaries coming out much more regularly in the past 3-4 months. A lot of them seem to be produced much earlier but only released now, why is that so?

    • @vprodocumentary
      @vprodocumentary  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello C Saurabh, VPRO has started this channel as a part of a new project: we subtitle VPRO documentaries and travel series with English, Spanish and French subtitles and we set it up on TH-cam. Some publications are from documentaries produced a few years ago, indeed, but they are worth the watch anyways. It's interesting to see the perspective we had then, and how things changed and evolved in between, right? We also release more recent documentaries, but there'll always be a delay, given the translation time. :) And yes, we release a new documentary on this channel every week. We hope to have answered your question. Best regards

  • @georgiosdoumas2446
    @georgiosdoumas2446 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 48:42 , starts a great song ( rock song based on traditional Cretan music , do not know what the song is)! But it lasts only for a few seconds

  • @watjejanssen7535
    @watjejanssen7535 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    love to live there,might !

  • @davidexperiment916
    @davidexperiment916 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love greece, i was there.....

  • @ciceroaraujo5183
    @ciceroaraujo5183 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cooperatives of small producers to add value and exports would help

  • @Jy3pr6
    @Jy3pr6 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Subtitles would be nice

    • @vprodocumentary
      @vprodocumentary  8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Subtitles are available in French, English and Spanish, you just have to click on the little wheel icon to choose the settings you want.

    • @Jy3pr6
      @Jy3pr6 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks

  • @nancybaldwin1811
    @nancybaldwin1811 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Need to cut amounts down. When 300 000 dollars turn into 3000. Mint coins again. Get rid of credit. And realize that a materialistic society isn't a good one. Really what most people need is place to stay, food, garments.

  • @diannehall2231
    @diannehall2231 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I want too move there

    • @paulpallott1658
      @paulpallott1658 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      dianne hall I'm coming t

    • @jimkirk989
      @jimkirk989 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FIRST GREECE MUST ERADICATE ALL THE TRAITOR & THEIR CO-CONSPIRATORS!!!!!!!!!!

    • @kalamataLJS
      @kalamataLJS 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      My holiday villa is in greece the peloponnese proper greece my profile pic is the villa
      I would love to move there I'm english and I hate England

  • @Alfy47
    @Alfy47 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Debts are sacred and you have to pay them so this process and situation will still affect your country but it is nice and fantastic to know that people there are finding ways to survive and to overcome the crisis. I have visited Greece twice recently and I really like your country.

    • @5e1enium
      @5e1enium 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      "Debts are sacred and you have to pay them". Utter rubbish - banker ideology and nothing more.

    • @thjeokthjeok443
      @thjeokthjeok443 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      5e 1 , was going to say the same thing , well said .

    • @realdiamondshow
      @realdiamondshow 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      And yet Greece forgave debts all German debts after ww2. You must be a banker or loan shark!

    • @dorianphilotheates3769
      @dorianphilotheates3769 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      “ Debts are sacred...” 😂

  • @gerassimos.fourlanos
    @gerassimos.fourlanos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Politically correct "ideology," lifestyle or fashion will resolve nothing in Greece. They think, for example, that doing away with middle men will solve the problem, but what about distribution networks, which is the very added value of middle men?
    I am afraid that the problem of Greece is more down to earth rather than in the clouds: Greece suffers from incredibly bad regulation and nightmarish bureaucracy. I agree with one thing though: Greece has gone bankrupt some 20 years ahead of Europe. The same predicament lies ahead for most European nations, they will be all sacrificed at the hands of a pseudo-legalistic class of bureaucrats, determined to block whatever there is to block in order to ascertain their power (and kickbacks).

  • @globalintenseresearch4675
    @globalintenseresearch4675 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AAAAaaaaa i see, documentary from 2013 when the plan was Mr. Tsipras, (00:18:20 speech)
    to become prime minister....well successfully became one!

  • @kahhweekoh4868
    @kahhweekoh4868 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greece is the answer it will come alive again with new revlations from the past .This will happen by end of 2018. Nyvlem Stone

  • @JasTheKariol
    @JasTheKariol 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    26:37 Its called "class war", didn't Vaclav Havel tell you? Plenty of reasons why the market is chosen as the regulating hand instead of class inequality. Mainly because few people like the power structure as it is when there is inequality. Nothing new here.

  • @vladmravcak6194
    @vladmravcak6194 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Greece is the answer" -that's in English. How about subtitles in English? Not everyone speaks Greek.

  • @JillesvanGurp
    @JillesvanGurp 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting, but ultimately it is about risk and and consequences. The big problem with Greece is that it was obviously risky to loan them large amounts of money long before the economic crisis. This was a financial and political risk that big lenders such as Germany and its major banks took. Then, the bubble burst and it turned out that it was inconvenient for that risk to have consequences for anyone. It was inconvenient for Greece, which could not afford to have its government and economy collapse. And it was inconvenient to the big lenders and their governments (which you can't really see separately) that would prefer not to see hundreds of billions in bad loans evaporate from their books overnight. Also it was inconvenient for the EU to deal with a chain effect of Greece and other struggling countries to remove themselves from the EU. So more risk was taken to avoid all of that in repeated rounds of loans, money printing, and renegotiated loans that were defaulting.
    I would argue, that allowing the banks to get away with this sets us up for future failures. And failing to restructure the loans for Greece sets that country up for decades of misery, until they finally pull the plug on the euro, devaluate, and get rid of their debt that way. This is inevitable unless something changes. The current loan structure makes no sense whatsoever; it basically involves people who haven't even been born yet paying off debts of their grand parents throughout their lives via taxes and living in a crippled economy because of it. I think it is a matter of time before the Greek decide that that they are not interested in doing that.
    The way out is of course the political decision to spread out the risk of this over time (more loans) combined with a unpopular but very necessary implementation of actual consequences for the banks: debt restructuring with a goal of nursing the Greek economy back to something sustainable. Banks took the risk lending money to a rather desperate and hopeless Greece and they lost their money (or rather our money, because banking is all about dodging responsibility and accountability). They should have known better. and some of them probably deserve to go bankrupt because they didn't. It is likely this cost will eventually be absorbed by tax payers across the EU; as it should. Though I'd definitely vote to let their shareholders suffer in equal measure: this risk was taken on their behalf. But we all collectively backed the governments that backed the banks that did this, and the pension funds, and all the rest. One way or another, we all end up paying.

    • @athenaemmanouilidis1291
      @athenaemmanouilidis1291 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jilles van Gurp All countries must kick out their central banks that are creating massive debt.

  • @diannehall2231
    @diannehall2231 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    we the 99 have had enough.. we just want to live and love...

    • @alienkishorekumar
      @alienkishorekumar 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      dianne hall I agree this statement would make the 1% shiver in fear.

    • @dimgnu6569
      @dimgnu6569 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      0.9% still has little to do with the ruling elite, you might be thinking about 0.1% or even 0.01%

  • @3S0JJD
    @3S0JJD 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the future is decentralized

  • @onlygems9464
    @onlygems9464 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please provide translation..nobody is understanding anything

  • @2100jul
    @2100jul 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    On one hand they skip the middleman and don’t pay taxes as a side effect, on the other hand they want a working infrastructure.

    • @athenaemmanouilidis1291
      @athenaemmanouilidis1291 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      2100jul They can't afford to survive without cutting out the middleman for now.

  • @lucifelmartell
    @lucifelmartell 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    and they say anarchism cannot work...!

  • @user-te4fz6it4c
    @user-te4fz6it4c 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:08 sorry I am Greek ;)

  • @neponsetriver
    @neponsetriver 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Grease is the word, is the word, is the word..." - Frankie Valli

    • @vprodocumentary
      @vprodocumentary  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahaha!

    • @athenaemmanouilidis1291
      @athenaemmanouilidis1291 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Neponset River The actual name of the country is Ellas.It was never Greece, but that's what wound up on paper

    • @panormitismakarounas1684
      @panormitismakarounas1684 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neponset River
      Use some grease on your hair and your ass stupid

  • @timfoinc.6879
    @timfoinc.6879 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I heard, " onira". It means come over here my child in Korean.

    • @taurus167
      @taurus167 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      well "onira" is "dreams" in greek

  • @maxmassimo1412
    @maxmassimo1412 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Da da da da da da

  • @feralcrafter7043
    @feralcrafter7043 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    English please! Or you might as well be speaking alien

    • @vprodocumentary
      @vprodocumentary  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's just Dutch, not alien hahaha!
      Dear Feral Crafter, all our documentaries are provided with English, French and Spanish subtitles.
      You just have to toggle the captions. You can choose the language you want in the caption settings.

  • @nonoi9987
    @nonoi9987 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    We no undestand greecs wtf