I agree with you there. You can have the recipe on a alt just in case, also its not Soulbound. But on the other hand he wasn't using Petri was just learning it which is an argument to be made
mate: "i don't even know if you're allowed to" sequisha: "i'm allowed to what?" mate: "to equip it" sequisha: "this thing goes into my inventory, i'm right clicking it and i don't really give a [...] what anyone says about anything, i'm right clicking that [...]" he made his intentions pretty clear.
proceeds to argue with the guild leader how they didn't make a decision on it and that he wouldn't craft any. who's supposed to believe that? His granny?
I love that Tyler's stance is "you should have been kicked already for cheating, fuck outta here", which is 100% the correct response. I was so annoyed that Sequisha got content for cheating.
The guy clearly states "i dont care what anyone says im going to do it" while already have borken rules before. In a guild thats entirely built based off trust due to everyone being content creators to have authentic content. Kick anyone who doesnt have the intelligence to understand common civil rules.
@@MrMagicMert Doesn't matter t1 gave him a chance but his fragile ego got hurt because he didn't want to look like a pathetic loser and refusing to unlearn alch. Hey exchanging livelyhood for fragile ego that's on him.
@@ZamorskyLucasdon’t be cringe and find loopholes in the rules even if it’s not explicitly in the rules like soda said u idiot. People following around alts on lvl 60 isn’t an official rule either but it’s still fucking cringe.
He didn’t break any rules on petri. T1 didn’t make rules around it so the current stance it’s exactly like any guild found item. T1 slacking with no rules pathetic leadership
@@beesung2052 Youre just a intelectually dishonest as the rule breaker. If youre boss is talking with you and others about fireing you you would work harder as well to not get fired and not sleep on the job right? He provoked a hot topic that was talked about being either banned or not being banned, he acted without talking with the leadership about it and faced the cosequences. if you actually cant comprehend this go back to kindergarten and learn logical thinking you absolut bafoon.
Sequisha is a complete selfish jackass and thinks he can just make the rules and break them whenever he wants. His cheating ass should have been g kicked back in November.
Yes, because if he's not in the guild and opens mail with items in them, they're not allowed to get these items back because they can't trade outside of guild.
"Rules" LOL, more like kneejerk reactions to things. They only established 2 at the start, no AH and no trading outside of the guild. The rest is reactionary bs that's ruining the entire thing.
@@heathen8379 well then the guy must be glad hes not longer part of it right? nobody is forcing him to do something he doesnt like but somehow i think hes not glad, not at all my precious
@@heathen8379 yeah and rules have been added. petri was literally just discussed at the last guild meeting with no clear answer. its obvious to anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together that if a petri recipe is found, it should be mailed to a bank alt until a guild decision is reached regarding petri
Obfuscatory argument from Sequisha. The reason he gives for learning it is better solved by keeping it on a bank alt/gbank. What if he dies with it learned before they reach a conclusion? That can't happen if it's in the bank, and he isn't stupid enough to miss that fact. He was clearly going to make petris.
The reality is Sequisha wants to use the auction house and also be able to use petri's but he also wants to be in Onlyfangs because it's content and it increases his twitch viewer count playing with other streamers so he tries whatever he can to get around the guild's rules to cheat.
I guess Sequisha is just one of those people who can't play by the rules. I would gkick him too, not worth dealing w/ all the extra BS that comes from his shenanigans.
I'm watching too much Onlyfangs content and Tyler1 is amazing as guild leader. Without dismissing all the great work Soda does for the guild Tyler does a better job in terms of the social stuff. Sequisha had to leave at this point. HE KNEW that petri is a hot topic in the guild and then proceeded to say "I'm right clicking it and i don't really give a fuck what anyone says about anything." when he learned it and then he tries to argue that it wasn't clear that he shouldn't learn it? lulz. That idiot should've been kicked when they found him auctioning items.
Soda rubs me wrong about 10% of the time. Tyler1 rubs me wrong about 50% of the time. But this gkick did not rub me wrong at all. At all. -I would have said: If had been someone else that hadn't been caught blatantly cheating then maybe I would have trusted you to dole or not dole out petri's as per the Guild rules, but you are a cheater and you simply can't be trusted to follow guild rules. Goodbye
@ahejleira5654 better than yours. He actually stands on business and kicks people. If your not in a streamer guild, guild leaders do nothing at all. They dont even "lead" or speak up most the time unless its endgame raiding🤭🤡
Remember this guy lied that he only used the AH for 'bag space'. Even though he made AH sales using multiple single stacks of the same item and retrieved the gold. Admitting you cheated can maybe be forgiven. Lying about cheating is not forgiveable; so he can't be trusted.
His argument was solid. If the add on tracks everything, then it can be seen if he made them are not. Learning it and having the ability was not discussed and should have been. Unlearning alchemy wastes even more time for those who funneled him mats and those other rare flasks that he had on that character. He paid the price with his character's death to the first AH nonsense and the app was corrected to account for changes. If that pardon wasn't the case, why continue to bring it up? I think they lost a very good player who definitely helped people along the way. Threading the needle, sure. But I just don't think Tyler liked him with his comments regarding his look and his edgey response and already wrote him off as a cheater once, always a cheater.
@@JoshBueschingall he had to do was hold the recipe, and not act like a moron saying he doesn’t care what anyone says. He also cheated knowingly once, which warps everyone else’s perception of him. He deserved it on the grounds of stupidity let alone breaking the rules.
@@JoshBuesching "He paid the price-" no, Soda made it clear that cheaters do not get content, they get gkicked. Sequisha should have already been kicked for cheating. He already got his free pass. He fucked up again and made it clear he didn't care about the consequences.
@TraxisOnTheLines The punishment was dealt, you can say he should have been kicked by the guild leader felt something else was appropriate ad a one time event. The rule should have been that you can't learn it, petri pots are in contention rn but it's honestly pretty fair to think you can learn the recipe as it doesn't actually change anything as long as you don't craft any petris.
@@ethan6627 The punishment was not dealt. An alternative punishment to the original rules was instated. Soda made it very clear, MULTIPLE times before Day 1, that cheaters would NOT get content, and would be kicked immediately. Sequisha COMPLETELY dodged that, got content, and stayed in the guild. He DESERVED to be kicked, and Soda's weak backbone let him slide through. He cheated, he's a filthy cheater, he has no respect for others (based on him saying "I'm clicking it, I don't care what anyone says", so I have zero remorse for his kick and I'm quite happy to see it.
He f'ed around and found out. Also, for someone saying "they are right clicking it I don't give a f" he SURE sounded like he gave a f after getting reprimanded. Weird.
If his argument is that he, as an Alchemist and as someone who won't die, should have the right to have the recipe, that's fine. But until they decide to use Petris, he can just keep it in his bank, or even better keep it on an alt in case he does die. There is absolutely no reason to learn it now. What reason is there to say "I don't give a fuck what anyone says" and learn it other than to be provocative/instigate? If the entire point of the guild is to collaborate and work together, how does removing options by learning it help anyone? Weird to me
The best option for that recipe is to give it to the Guild Bank and then if they decide to use give it back to the original person let them learn it that away if the person dies it's not sitting in their own bank
That’s terrible advice. Here’s a tip for those that are new, if your guild allows you to win the item, the item is yours. If you get kicked from the guild then you dodged a bullet with a crappy guild. WoW is one of the few MMOs that being in a guild doesn’t matter anymore with there being many ways to end game content with random players using looking for a group function. The thing with recipe items is that it really does not matter who has it. If someone has the required skill to create the item, then they can make the item for anyone. A real guild will assist the player on making as many of these potions for the entire guild. A guild does not determine a character. The characters determine the guild. *The more you know*
1. They discussed about the problems with Petri 2. Another player in the guild (i forgot his name) got a petri recipe and destroyed it. 3. Sequisha knew the problem with keeping that petri recipe, yet alone learning it, and he did it anyway - even quoting "I don't give a fck" 4. Sequisha saying "it's for the guild in case you guys come to a decision" is manipulative and selfish. "I'm a lvl 300 alchemist and im one of the few people that can actually stay alive in case the guild decides we'd need it in the future" is main character syndrome right there. - why does it have to be you? you could have just sent it to the mystery box account that way THE GUILD has it and THE GUILD MASTER can decide what to do with it after consulting with the guild. But nope, he wants to be the one who makes them. It's not for the guild, but for himself. Knowing his previous cheating case and his "I dont give a fck" attitude when he learned the petri, he's definitely gonna cheat again (OFF STREAM this time). Either making petri's for his alt, or selling them off at the auction house for gold, etc.
My personal opinion on it is that the main reason he chose to die on that hill is because of two things. 1. He got away with cheating before 2. He knows Tyler is a noob This creates a situation where he’s like “I’m a sweat, and another sweat already pardoned me, there’s no way a noob is gonna drop the hammer when soda wouldn’t” so he was 100% just doing it because he had no respect for Tyler or the stance Tyler had to take. You can tell from the conversation that he felt that he has authority over the GM just because he’s been playing longer, and that’s not how social structures work.
Dude said i dont care what anyone says im learning this. If i was tyler i would have kicked him and not even had a conversation with him. He did it as a f you and on principle he should just be dropped from the guild for that. The recipe doesnt even matter at that point.
That’s how I saw it too. Like why be in a guild if you want to make selfish decision. Just go self found dude or just play a normal hardcore character. The whole point of the guild was to collab and when you make decisions that go against the general mindset you lock yourself out of that. Plus he already has a reputation to cheat and I heard somewhere he had to return materials to some of his friends, so it’s obvious he was gonna make them whatever decision was made. Idk I’m sick seeing the dude and I’ve genuinely enjoyed T1 as the guild leader as I had only seen him from clips my bro would show me as I’m really only a WoW girly haha.
@@lizzyetj I've never been a fan of the T1 character but as guild leader and really his journey through wow we have gotten to see more of the real person. That I have been enjoying. He is taking the role as guild leader seriously and trying to focus on making good content. Definitely have a better opinion of him now.
That's exactly why I think T1 has the potential to be a great guild leader. Instead of just kicking him straight, he actually decided to talk to him to let him know what he did was wrong.
Even if the guild allowed petri, why would they invite the character with the recipe on it? Guy literally bricked his character and condemning it to forever orgrimmar by learning it even if that was the case. The amount of main characters in this guild is astonishing
What are you trying to ask with that first question? It doesn't make sense. If the guild allowerd Petris of course they would have a player in the guild with the recipe. WTF. Not to mention that the second sentence isn't any better. You got it with the third one tho. Why would he brick his character with the recipe?
@@Faude18 the character with petri flask is 100% never getting brought to a raid. The risk of losing the character AND the flask is too high. Learning the recipe puts you in Org/Scholo jail where you aren't "allowed" to do anything remotely risky.
'No guild rule explicitly saying you can't learn petri' Also, no rules explicitly saying a million different things that are implied by common sense or should be confirmed when related to something that was explicitly against the rules. Petri hasn't been decided yet, so it was obvious that mailing the recipe to the GM bank alt was the logical thing to do. This guy says idgaf.
Really? Why couldn't one assume you can learn the recipe and just not craft any potions until a decision about them was made? Also like pretty sure there isn't any rules that are obvious which aren't explicitly written when it comes to what you are allowed to do on your character, genuinely give me one as I can't think of any.
Not a huge Tyler fan, but some of the recent guild decisions been spot on. The attitude of “learning it and I don’t care” while already being a week 1 cheater is grounds itself. Good call
I must be honest. Going forward i really want tyler to handle the "drama" in the guild. Soda is FAR TO NICE to people straight up breaking rules and be disrespectful to all the time he and other put into creating the guild. Tyler actually tries to be reasonable, but isn't afraid to maintain integrity. Every single Gkick he has done everyone has no issue with it.
it just seems like sequisha never wanted to play how onlyfangs is playing from the start. feels like he was just looking for an excuse to play hardcore normally
I mean, let him learn it and sell the flasks. Theres a big differance between actually using them and selling them. Even if it means a potential high gold income, the actual stuff you can buy from gold is limited in the end game. Especially when youre already an 300 alch.
I mean isn't that the entire point? They dog walked MC the last time with 0 deaths, Streamers and viewers got bored of it and they stopped raiding. That's why they want to outlaw Petri, So if people die, they die and have to go again.
@@markj.a351 To be fair, it wasn't clear, they didn't come to a conclusion on those talks. No one ever said "The rule is no petri", but no one ever said "the rule is you're allowed to have petri" either. But the logic in my head was "Oh, the majority of the guild is booing when petri got mentioned, so it's most likely not gonna be allowed". At least that seemed logical in my head.
probably. i dont know. reason he got kicked is that he did not ask the leader what to do with the recipe since they banned petri flasks. instead he said "idgaf what anyone says, im learning this"
What makes this insane is that the first wipe on ony they are going to decide to yes, use Petri. Except no one in the guild will have it learned and they already are going broke as a guild according to Soda.
They first of all have to get to Ony first, and then let time tell. They might or they might not, what matters here is that this isn't Sequisha's decision to make, and he's a known cheater so that means that he's definently going to cheat and make them even if it's decided not to use them. If someone is caught cheating, gets punished to a lesser degree, and then starts doing questionable shit again? Yeah, fool me once shame on me, fool me twice... it would be beyond naive to assume he wasn't going to cheat again. Especially when he cheated so brazenly before, and lied to Soda's face about it.
One of the few times I agree with Tyler, how is anyone gonna take your word you won’t use the petri or make them and sell them when he’s already shown he doesn’t care about the rules and has broken them
Learning a recipe and using potions against the rules is very different in my opinion. Completionists want to have all the recipes, and I see his point of view of learning it. So, my question is if he was not streaming, is everyone required to consistently link their profession to make sure they don't have certain recipes? I agree the micromanaging is kind of crazy and while I wouldn't want to be in that guild for that reason, I respect those that do.
If it was anyone else who hadn't already broken the rules i wouldve said its to harsh just let them keep it under the conditions that they get kicked if anyone in the guild is caught using a petri (ontop of the person who used it not instead of obviously)
even if the mistake was made to learn it, i wouldnt unlearn and risk a gkick anywyas after the fact. last time he got a 'chance' for ammends it was a ruse to kill him in the arena.
Honestly his reasoning wouldnt be too bad if he wasn't already a cheater before hand so yeah his assurances he wont give them out inspire zero confidence at all deserved gkick lol
Damn high schoolers. I would never be friends with that Rogue. He’s a douche who would steal a $20 bill if he was your friend and walking behind you. Then he would say, “well you didn’t ask if I found your money so I didn’t think I needed to tell you about it”. Yup. That’s exactly how he would behave.
He should've sent it to an alt/let the guild know and when the time is right/approved use it, instead of just saying "Idc i am going to learn it and you can't stop me" learning it gives off the impression that he has intentions of using it which he probably will
He really should've at least asked leadership before learning that pattern >.< It's clearly an extremely controversial pattern... And the fact he behaved the way he did lets me know he completely knew he could get in big trouble for doing that he was about to do. Sad to see it results in him getting gkicked, but this is the second time he's done something that has resulted in the GM having to have a 1 on 1 with him. >.> Hopefully fangsly works out for him.
He can say it all he wants about learning the spell he didn't have to learn it he could just put it in the bank. he knew most of the guild did not want to use the item He did it for his views but it backfired. Almost can guarantee you he had some kind of intentions behind it whether it was to sell it on the side etc there has to be rules to things and you can't let people break them that's all there is to it nobody should be upset this guy was G kicked
when he learned he said he didng gaf, but he didn't say any of that when confronted, just went sideways with little kid's reasoning for why it was ok to learn it. What a man right?
The only one that have problems with the guild rules are the people that wanna cheat the guild rules. OH Wait, he already cheated before, who would've guessed
The more I see of Tyler as Warchief the more I love it. I cannot stand people that join guilds with rules in place, proceed to ignore them willfully, then act like it shouldn't matter. Not your place to decide nerd, get the fuck out.
Eh if a rule isnt in place it isnt in place, if it becomes against the rule to use a Petri there we go, if Petri is banned at some point then you deal with the Petri flasks themselves.
@@sirflimflam thats a fair point, in isolation i dont think this is a big deal, but since the person has already caused issues it is a bit more difficult.
At first I thought the idea of OnlyFangs was cool but I cant possibly get behind the idea of someone else telling me how to play the game I am paying for. Then when you get on a call you get a spaz like Tyler scream at you through his walmart mic and act tough lol. There is a line that myself at my age I won't go near, I would of held it before learning though just in case lol.
On the one hand I understand Sequisha learning the recipe but on the other his logic makes no sense, if his whole reasoning is "just to have it in case the guild decides to allow them" also what's the point of learning a recipe if you're not going to use it? his logic would make more sense for him keeping the recipe and not learning it
@@Sent-14 A fair excuse for a normal HC character, but he's in a streamer guild with all kinds of extra rules that was discussing the possibility of banning said potion thus making it a useless recipe and learning it only sows doubt that said individual (and anyone who plays with him) is potentially using it off screen, because why else would you have the recipe if you're not gonna use it?
@@madDjakni Yeah but they're crafted halfway through scholomance he cannot go there alone and i think they have to do these raid in guild..so he can't craft them without the guild knowing.. Why? just to have it in your alchimy book for the prestige it's a good reason^^
His argument falls apart when he said "Im learning it, I dont give a fuck". He clearly knew it would be a problem.
I agree with you there. You can have the recipe on a alt just in case, also its not Soulbound. But on the other hand he wasn't using Petri was just learning it which is an argument to be made
@@skillzpsy he also used the auction house so there is no argument, he's cheating scum
He probably just thought he would get a silly punishment for it. People need to start getting kicked otherwise this will keep on happening.
mate: "i don't even know if you're allowed to"
sequisha: "i'm allowed to what?"
mate: "to equip it"
sequisha: "this thing goes into my inventory, i'm right clicking it and i don't really give a [...] what anyone says about anything, i'm right clicking that [...]"
he made his intentions pretty clear.
proceeds to argue with the guild leader how they didn't make a decision on it and that he wouldn't craft any. who's supposed to believe that? His granny?
"When this goes in my inventory, Im right clicking it, I dont give a F", proceeds to get guild kicked and gives a F
exactly
Lol so true
I love that Tyler's stance is "you should have been kicked already for cheating, fuck outta here", which is 100% the correct response. I was so annoyed that Sequisha got content for cheating.
Imagine trying to control people in a 20 year old video game.
that action saved onlyfangs, petri is boring
The guy clearly states "i dont care what anyone says im going to do it" while already have borken rules before. In a guild thats entirely built based off trust due to everyone being content creators to have authentic content. Kick anyone who doesnt have the intelligence to understand common civil rules.
Then tries to fight against it pathetic
There was no rule against the petri. If they didn't come to their decision on petri that's on them.
@@MrMagicMert Doesn't matter t1 gave him a chance but his fragile ego got hurt because he didn't want to look like a pathetic loser and refusing to unlearn alch. Hey exchanging livelyhood for fragile ego that's on him.
The glazing......you arent getting in the guild. Calm down.
Gordan should be kicked too then for giving it to him
-breakes rule
-gets pardoned
-breaks rule again
-gets kicked
-complains
actual schizo behaviour
Crazy how his 14yrold viewers is defending him just because they want streamer attention
I know u germans get hard for the rules but what rule did he break?
@@ZamorskyLucasdon’t be cringe and find loopholes in the rules even if it’s not explicitly in the rules like soda said u idiot. People following around alts on lvl 60 isn’t an official rule either but it’s still fucking cringe.
He didn’t break any rules on petri. T1 didn’t make rules around it so the current stance it’s exactly like any guild found item. T1 slacking with no rules pathetic leadership
@@beesung2052 Youre just a intelectually dishonest as the rule breaker. If youre boss is talking with you and others about fireing you you would work harder as well to not get fired and not sleep on the job right? He provoked a hot topic that was talked about being either banned or not being banned, he acted without talking with the leadership about it and faced the cosequences. if you actually cant comprehend this go back to kindergarten and learn logical thinking you absolut bafoon.
Right after g kick dude said he had to sent mats back to people from his D box meaning they were gonna make and have on the DL busted
Sequisha is a complete selfish jackass and thinks he can just make the rules and break them whenever he wants. His cheating ass should have been g kicked back in November.
Yes, because if he's not in the guild and opens mail with items in them, they're not allowed to get these items back because they can't trade outside of guild.
man, if you dont want any rules, maybe dont join a guild that has rules...
"Rules" LOL, more like kneejerk reactions to things. They only established 2 at the start, no AH and no trading outside of the guild. The rest is reactionary bs that's ruining the entire thing.
it a streamers guild anyway, they not playing seriously lol
@@heathen8379 well then the guy must be glad hes not longer part of it right?
nobody is forcing him to do something he doesnt like
but somehow i think hes not glad, not at all my precious
@@heathen8379 yeah and rules have been added. petri was literally just discussed at the last guild meeting with no clear answer. its obvious to anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together that if a petri recipe is found, it should be mailed to a bank alt until a guild decision is reached regarding petri
Ah yes the rule that doesn't exist?
Find me the petri rule.
Kicked and deserved. 'You didn't say we cannot learn the recipe' is a child's response.
Is the alternative AH it and get other things for guild? Honest q
Obfuscatory argument from Sequisha. The reason he gives for learning it is better solved by keeping it on a bank alt/gbank. What if he dies with it learned before they reach a conclusion? That can't happen if it's in the bank, and he isn't stupid enough to miss that fact. He was clearly going to make petris.
The reality is Sequisha wants to use the auction house and also be able to use petri's but he also wants to be in Onlyfangs because it's content and it increases his twitch viewer count playing with other streamers so he tries whatever he can to get around the guild's rules to cheat.
I guess Sequisha is just one of those people who can't play by the rules. I would gkick him too, not worth dealing w/ all the extra BS that comes from his shenanigans.
I gotta admit Tyler1 has been an incredible guild leader from what I've seen
I'm watching too much Onlyfangs content and Tyler1 is amazing as guild leader. Without dismissing all the great work Soda does for the guild Tyler does a better job in terms of the social stuff.
Sequisha had to leave at this point. HE KNEW that petri is a hot topic in the guild and then proceeded to say "I'm right clicking it and i don't really give a fuck what anyone says about anything." when he learned it and then he tries to argue that it wasn't clear that he shouldn't learn it? lulz.
That idiot should've been kicked when they found him auctioning items.
He is average, not sure what kind of guild leaders you have had.
Soda rubs me wrong about 10% of the time. Tyler1 rubs me wrong about 50% of the time. But this gkick did not rub me wrong at all. At all. -I would have said: If had been someone else that hadn't been caught blatantly cheating then maybe I would have trusted you to dole or not dole out petri's as per the Guild rules, but you are a cheater and you simply can't be trusted to follow guild rules. Goodbye
I'm not the biggest fan of T1 normally, but he's handling the guild, and guild behavior amazingly
@ahejleira5654 better than yours. He actually stands on business and kicks people.
If your not in a streamer guild, guild leaders do nothing at all. They dont even "lead" or speak up most the time unless its endgame raiding🤭🤡
Imagine the Tarkov streamer being the guy who cannot quit cheating.
Remember this guy lied that he only used the AH for 'bag space'. Even though he made AH sales using multiple single stacks of the same item and retrieved the gold. Admitting you cheated can maybe be forgiven. Lying about cheating is not forgiveable; so he can't be trusted.
totally deserved - its absurd hes even arguing his case - even more absurd its the second time hes clearly broken the rules...
He said he didn't give a fuck, but clearly he did.
His argument was solid. If the add on tracks everything, then it can be seen if he made them are not. Learning it and having the ability was not discussed and should have been. Unlearning alchemy wastes even more time for those who funneled him mats and those other rare flasks that he had on that character. He paid the price with his character's death to the first AH nonsense and the app was corrected to account for changes. If that pardon wasn't the case, why continue to bring it up? I think they lost a very good player who definitely helped people along the way. Threading the needle, sure. But I just don't think Tyler liked him with his comments regarding his look and his edgey response and already wrote him off as a cheater once, always a cheater.
@@JoshBueschingall he had to do was hold the recipe, and not act like a moron saying he doesn’t care what anyone says. He also cheated knowingly once, which warps everyone else’s perception of him. He deserved it on the grounds of stupidity let alone breaking the rules.
@@JoshBuesching "He paid the price-" no, Soda made it clear that cheaters do not get content, they get gkicked. Sequisha should have already been kicked for cheating. He already got his free pass. He fucked up again and made it clear he didn't care about the consequences.
@TraxisOnTheLines The punishment was dealt, you can say he should have been kicked by the guild leader felt something else was appropriate ad a one time event. The rule should have been that you can't learn it, petri pots are in contention rn but it's honestly pretty fair to think you can learn the recipe as it doesn't actually change anything as long as you don't craft any petris.
@@ethan6627 The punishment was not dealt. An alternative punishment to the original rules was instated. Soda made it very clear, MULTIPLE times before Day 1, that cheaters would NOT get content, and would be kicked immediately. Sequisha COMPLETELY dodged that, got content, and stayed in the guild. He DESERVED to be kicked, and Soda's weak backbone let him slide through. He cheated, he's a filthy cheater, he has no respect for others (based on him saying "I'm clicking it, I don't care what anyone says", so I have zero remorse for his kick and I'm quite happy to see it.
He f'ed around and found out. Also, for someone saying "they are right clicking it I don't give a f" he SURE sounded like he gave a f after getting reprimanded. Weird.
If his argument is that he, as an Alchemist and as someone who won't die, should have the right to have the recipe, that's fine. But until they decide to use Petris, he can just keep it in his bank, or even better keep it on an alt in case he does die. There is absolutely no reason to learn it now. What reason is there to say "I don't give a fuck what anyone says" and learn it other than to be provocative/instigate? If the entire point of the guild is to collaborate and work together, how does removing options by learning it help anyone? Weird to me
The best option for that recipe is to give it to the Guild Bank and then if they decide to use give it back to the original person let them learn it that away if the person dies it's not sitting in their own bank
That’s terrible advice. Here’s a tip for those that are new, if your guild allows you to win the item, the item is yours. If you get kicked from the guild then you dodged a bullet with a crappy guild. WoW is one of the few MMOs that being in a guild doesn’t matter anymore with there being many ways to end game content with random players using looking for a group function. The thing with recipe items is that it really does not matter who has it. If someone has the required skill to create the item, then they can make the item for anyone. A real guild will assist the player on making as many of these potions for the entire guild. A guild does not determine a character. The characters determine the guild. *The more you know*
Honestly, as someone who only knew Tyler1 through memes before this OnlyFangs, I‘m impressed by how well he is handling the recent drama.
"I'm not playing in Fangsly"
Bro is talking like he has a choice in coming back or not
If you don't like the rules that's fine but if you don't follow the rules because you don't like them that's the attitude of a little child.
1. They discussed about the problems with Petri
2. Another player in the guild (i forgot his name) got a petri recipe and destroyed it.
3. Sequisha knew the problem with keeping that petri recipe, yet alone learning it, and he did it anyway - even quoting "I don't give a fck"
4. Sequisha saying "it's for the guild in case you guys come to a decision" is manipulative and selfish.
"I'm a lvl 300 alchemist and im one of the few people that can actually stay alive in case the guild decides we'd need it in the future" is main character syndrome right there.
- why does it have to be you? you could have just sent it to the mystery box account that way THE GUILD has it and THE GUILD MASTER can decide what to do with it after consulting with the guild. But nope, he wants to be the one who makes them. It's not for the guild, but for himself. Knowing his previous cheating case and his "I dont give a fck" attitude when he learned the petri, he's definitely gonna cheat again (OFF STREAM this time). Either making petri's for his alt, or selling them off at the auction house for gold, etc.
My personal opinion on it is that the main reason he chose to die on that hill is because of two things.
1. He got away with cheating before
2. He knows Tyler is a noob
This creates a situation where he’s like “I’m a sweat, and another sweat already pardoned me, there’s no way a noob is gonna drop the hammer when soda wouldn’t” so he was 100% just doing it because he had no respect for Tyler or the stance Tyler had to take. You can tell from the conversation that he felt that he has authority over the GM just because he’s been playing longer, and that’s not how social structures work.
Dude said i dont care what anyone says im learning this. If i was tyler i would have kicked him and not even had a conversation with him. He did it as a f you and on principle he should just be dropped from the guild for that. The recipe doesnt even matter at that point.
That’s how I saw it too. Like why be in a guild if you want to make selfish decision. Just go self found dude or just play a normal hardcore character. The whole point of the guild was to collab and when you make decisions that go against the general mindset you lock yourself out of that. Plus he already has a reputation to cheat and I heard somewhere he had to return materials to some of his friends, so it’s obvious he was gonna make them whatever decision was made. Idk I’m sick seeing the dude and I’ve genuinely enjoyed T1 as the guild leader as I had only seen him from clips my bro would show me as I’m really only a WoW girly haha.
@@lizzyetj I've never been a fan of the T1 character but as guild leader and really his journey through wow we have gotten to see more of the real person. That I have been enjoying. He is taking the role as guild leader seriously and trying to focus on making good content. Definitely have a better opinion of him now.
That's exactly why I think T1 has the potential to be a great guild leader. Instead of just kicking him straight, he actually decided to talk to him to let him know what he did was wrong.
he's trying to make himself unkickable or untouchable by learning it and saying "there's a char alive when you decide what to do with it"
Even if the guild allowed petri, why would they invite the character with the recipe on it? Guy literally bricked his character and condemning it to forever orgrimmar by learning it even if that was the case.
The amount of main characters in this guild is astonishing
There are thousands of people playing besides a bunch of washed up streamers guy. Nobody cares
You don’t sit in org when you have petri bozo you literally have to make them in scholomance lmao
What are you trying to ask with that first question? It doesn't make sense. If the guild allowerd Petris of course they would have a player in the guild with the recipe. WTF. Not to mention that the second sentence isn't any better. You got it with the third one tho.
Why would he brick his character with the recipe?
@@Noticegiven You are literally here, commenting on this video about the washed up streamers, lil guy. Seems like you care.
@@Faude18 the character with petri flask is 100% never getting brought to a raid. The risk of losing the character AND the flask is too high. Learning the recipe puts you in Org/Scholo jail where you aren't "allowed" to do anything remotely risky.
Lets make it quick, what really happends is...
"Delete your profession and you are welcome back"
"I am not doing that"
"Kay bye"
'No guild rule explicitly saying you can't learn petri' Also, no rules explicitly saying a million different things that are implied by common sense or should be confirmed when related to something that was explicitly against the rules. Petri hasn't been decided yet, so it was obvious that mailing the recipe to the GM bank alt was the logical thing to do. This guy says idgaf.
Really? Why couldn't one assume you can learn the recipe and just not craft any potions until a decision about them was made? Also like pretty sure there isn't any rules that are obvious which aren't explicitly written when it comes to what you are allowed to do on your character, genuinely give me one as I can't think of any.
Not a huge Tyler fan, but some of the recent guild decisions been spot on. The attitude of “learning it and I don’t care” while already being a week 1 cheater is grounds itself. Good call
All the mustache riding in the comments. The guy was wrong. He openly said IDGAF. Deserved.
And even then he was still offered an olive branch to relearn alchemy. He refused. Good riddance
He cheated before why wouldn't he cheat again
Was there a written down rule for petri?
if he wants freedom, don't join the guild that is doing it for event and content
With these Gkicks and deaths Onlyfang raids are postponed until year 2079. Hold your horses.
Nah the gkicks don't matter, the deaths do. Only 2 ppl were gkicked that's negligible.
This dude been cheating hes lame af you know he would abuse it im glad hes gone
You are too invested in strangers mate
@@user-fg3fv9hl3b you have a 100 comments on the channel if anyone's too invested to strangers its you buddy 🤣
@@user-fg3fv9hl3b Says the dude with 100 comments on the channel the only one whos too invested in strangers is you mate... 🤡
@@user-fg3fv9hl3b you have 100 comments on the channel buddy the only one whos to invested is you...
@@user-fg3fv9hl3b weird comment from someone watching a drama video about a bunch of strangers xD
He says he's not going to make any but who's going to believe that after he's been caught cheating before on the auction house.
Should have been gkick the first time he cheated. T1 picking Soda's slack.
Respect to Tyler for upholding chain of command.
It's like his streamer brain can't comprehend the concept of having a boss and needing to do what he's told
Eventually Petri will be given the greenlight and, Sequisha knows this.
so he got himself kicked because he doesnt believe in using petri? why not just delete it then...
@@Healcraft You didn't understand my comment. Petri will eventually be allowed and then they will need someone who is able to craft them
@@ett32g but he is kicked so not him
Tyler1's actions thus far have demonstrated he is a better guild leader than soda.
"I want to play the way I want" and "I want to be in OnlyFangs" are mutually exclusive. Simple as that.
once a cheater always cheats
I got a lot of respect for Tyler with this. Real leaders need to make the right decisions for the group, even if they are tough.
Is soo funny because Guild message says: Stop Funking Dying. And then someone have the ways to stop dying and kicked from guild.
I must be honest. Going forward i really want tyler to handle the "drama" in the guild. Soda is FAR TO NICE to people straight up breaking rules and be disrespectful to all the time he and other put into creating the guild. Tyler actually tries to be reasonable, but isn't afraid to maintain integrity. Every single Gkick he has done everyone has no issue with it.
it just seems like sequisha never wanted to play how onlyfangs is playing from the start. feels like he was just looking for an excuse to play hardcore normally
his first mistake was joining Onlyfangs
I mean, let him learn it and sell the flasks. Theres a big differance between actually using them and selling them. Even if it means a potential high gold income, the actual stuff you can buy from gold is limited in the end game. Especially when youre already an 300 alch.
onlyfangs will never clear raiding content without pretri's. MC probably, perhaps bwl, but AQ onward. oh boy
NO WAY they clear BWL without Petri. Not a chance.
They won't clear much raiding content petri or not. MC at best.
Onlyfangs is not gonna play after MC anyways just like last time
I mean isn't that the entire point? They dog walked MC the last time with 0 deaths, Streamers and viewers got bored of it and they stopped raiding. That's why they want to outlaw Petri, So if people die, they die and have to go again.
@@Scionofgreyhaven fr, i can't understand how people don't get this. moonmoon called it directly when given the chance.
This guild is never making it to raid at this rate.
War Chief has final say.
BUT, rules should be clearly defined
A new rule going forward should be "If you don't know - ASK"
"If you don't know, ask!" shouldn't have to be a rule, it's common sense.
The rule was clear. It was explained in the guild meeting like the day before he did it.
"When this goes in my inventory, I'm right clicking it, I don't give a fuck"
Doesn't seem to be that confused to me.
@@markj.a351 To be fair, it wasn't clear, they didn't come to a conclusion on those talks. No one ever said "The rule is no petri", but no one ever said "the rule is you're allowed to have petri" either. But the logic in my head was "Oh, the majority of the guild is booing when petri got mentioned, so it's most likely not gonna be allowed". At least that seemed logical in my head.
"officer i didnt plan to stab anybody with it i just have it on me" nah
Cheating = being the main protagonist of the week = views = will do it again
Funny how serious people get in this game like it’s a game to start, middle, and end people need to chill a bit haha
This guy Sequisha clearly thought "it's easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission", well get rekt dude.
Huge T1 W
Could the guild just sell the recipe and use the gold to buy mounts and riding skills for other players?
probably.
i dont know.
reason he got kicked is that he did not ask the leader what to do with the recipe since they banned petri flasks.
instead he said "idgaf what anyone says, im learning this"
What makes this insane is that the first wipe on ony they are going to decide to yes, use Petri. Except no one in the guild will have it learned and they already are going broke as a guild according to Soda.
They first of all have to get to Ony first, and then let time tell. They might or they might not, what matters here is that this isn't Sequisha's decision to make, and he's a known cheater so that means that he's definently going to cheat and make them even if it's decided not to use them. If someone is caught cheating, gets punished to a lesser degree, and then starts doing questionable shit again? Yeah, fool me once shame on me, fool me twice... it would be beyond naive to assume he wasn't going to cheat again.
Especially when he cheated so brazenly before, and lied to Soda's face about it.
You guys seem to not know that's theres already 2-3 petri recipes in the guild
i think the comment on "i dont care" then learning it, deserves the kick
Shoulda happened to this guy the first time. Good on T1 for actually enforcing the rules.
Have to give it to Tyler1. Think he's annoying af, but holding high standards is the right way.
One of the few times I agree with Tyler, how is anyone gonna take your word you won’t use the petri or make them and sell them when he’s already shown he doesn’t care about the rules and has broken them
It's the price of being in a content guild
Learning a recipe and using potions against the rules is very different in my opinion. Completionists want to have all the recipes, and I see his point of view of learning it. So, my question is if he was not streaming, is everyone required to consistently link their profession to make sure they don't have certain recipes? I agree the micromanaging is kind of crazy and while I wouldn't want to be in that guild for that reason, I respect those that do.
Correct decision, you have to draw the line. Sends a message to other people thinking of doing same stupid shit
Tyler screaming is enough to /gquit over
I guess there is a toon that is the guild bank. It has thousands of gold and stuff. Just send the recipe to that toon. Bam, now it's safe.
as an outsider that dont rly get it, why it such a big deal he learn it? or what is wrong with it? would like if anyone can explain
so whats the big deal about using the auction house? i dont know their rules
can someone tell me whats the point of kicking him out of a guild but still play with ppl within it?
Acts like he should have any good will when he already cheated. Cheaters are gonna cheat and tired of listening to this dudes excuses.
LMAOOO he cried about not being warned of it
Yet THE GUYS LITERALLY TOLD HIM AS IT DROPPED IT IS NOT A GOOD IDEA AND HE SAID HE DIDNT DOESNT GIVE A F
Yeah, it seems like he just wanted to defy rules.
He has no one to blame but himself.
If it was anyone else who hadn't already broken the rules i wouldve said its to harsh just let them keep it under the conditions that they get kicked if anyone in the guild is caught using a petri (ontop of the person who used it not instead of obviously)
Kinda strange how much benefit of the doubt guzu gives people like pilav and sequisha, when it’s all right in front of him
I noticed something,after this incident he was offline for almost a day.
even if the mistake was made to learn it, i wouldnt unlearn and risk a gkick anywyas after the fact. last time he got a 'chance' for ammends it was a ruse to kill him in the arena.
Onlyfangs is going to take until summer to enter MC at this rate LOL
Honestly his reasoning wouldnt be too bad if he wasn't already a cheater before hand so yeah his assurances he wont give them out inspire zero confidence at all deserved gkick lol
with with lamb, u don't control what i do if its in my inventory guess what and i can learn it i'm learning it
Damn high schoolers.
I would never be friends with that Rogue. He’s a douche who would steal a $20 bill if he was your friend and walking behind you.
Then he would say, “well you didn’t ask if I found your money so I didn’t think I needed to tell you about it”.
Yup. That’s exactly how he would behave.
why the dude in the guild then? he need cloud?
If sequisha unlearns alchemy, and for whatever reason the guild decided later to play with petri right? He would just be fucked then.
He should've sent it to an alt/let the guild know and when the time is right/approved use it, instead of just saying "Idc i am going to learn it and you can't stop me" learning it gives off the impression that he has intentions of using it which he probably will
Tryhards are never happy
His brain must be very squishy
He really should've at least asked leadership before learning that pattern >.< It's clearly an extremely controversial pattern... And the fact he behaved the way he did lets me know he completely knew he could get in big trouble for doing that he was about to do. Sad to see it results in him getting gkicked, but this is the second time he's done something that has resulted in the GM having to have a 1 on 1 with him. >.> Hopefully fangsly works out for him.
Somebody dumb down the reason petri is such a big drama deal for them for me?
What does sequisha get by being in this guild? Hes not making the raids, people already accuse him of cheating once, so its not a big deal honestly.
He can say it all he wants about learning the spell he didn't have to learn it he could just put it in the bank. he knew most of the guild did not want to use the item He did it for his views but it backfired. Almost can guarantee you he had some kind of intentions behind it whether it was to sell it on the side etc there has to be rules to things and you can't let people break them that's all there is to it nobody should be upset this guy was G kicked
Sequisha is a cheater through and through. I bet the guy would lie about his golf strokes in a friendly game with a friend. No integrity.
when he learned he said he didng gaf, but he didn't say any of that when confronted, just went sideways with little kid's reasoning for why it was ok to learn it. What a man right?
The only one that have problems with the guild rules are the people that wanna cheat the guild rules. OH Wait, he already cheated before, who would've guessed
Is Gordan banned? literally gave it to them....
The more I see of Tyler as Warchief the more I love it. I cannot stand people that join guilds with rules in place, proceed to ignore them willfully, then act like it shouldn't matter. Not your place to decide nerd, get the fuck out.
Eh if a rule isnt in place it isnt in place, if it becomes against the rule to use a Petri there we go, if Petri is banned at some point then you deal with the Petri flasks themselves.
can't trust the guy though. he basically made his rep "the cheater guy"
@@sirflimflam thats a fair point, in isolation i dont think this is a big deal, but since the person has already caused issues it is a bit more difficult.
At first I thought the idea of OnlyFangs was cool but I cant possibly get behind the idea of someone else telling me how to play the game I am paying for. Then when you get on a call you get a spaz like Tyler scream at you through his walmart mic and act tough lol. There is a line that myself at my age I won't go near, I would of held it before learning though just in case lol.
On the one hand I understand Sequisha learning the recipe but on the other his logic makes no sense, if his whole reasoning is "just to have it in case the guild decides to allow them" also what's the point of learning a recipe if you're not going to use it? his logic would make more sense for him keeping the recipe and not learning it
it doesn't take space in your bank.. And for the achievement to obtain the scroll whit a hc character ..
@@Sent-14 A fair excuse for a normal HC character, but he's in a streamer guild with all kinds of extra rules that was discussing the possibility of banning said potion thus making it a useless recipe and learning it only sows doubt that said individual (and anyone who plays with him) is potentially using it off screen, because why else would you have the recipe if you're not gonna use it?
@@madDjakni Yeah but they're crafted halfway through scholomance he cannot go there alone and i think they have to do these raid in guild..so he can't craft them without the guild knowing.. Why? just to have it in your alchimy book for the prestige it's a good reason^^
rules are different from micro managing