Finally a finish I can use some cheap enamel on and not go through the tedious wait for nitro to dry. I think my beat up Tele bass is about to go black... vid still helping people 3 years later Brad. Nice job.
My old 1982 S-10 turned out great with the exact same Rustoleum "painters touch" flat black you're using, but even after 2 days of curing. If I touched the paint, even with clean hands, the fingerprints would remain and be very hard to clean. I cleaned it with some sprayway and hit it with the same Rustoleum matte clear and I got all kinds of compliments about how good it looked. When I posted it on Craigslist, the guy I had bought it from the week before saw it on CL and called me to tell me how great it looked. I gave him $500, put about 5 hours of body work and interior detailing, $30 in paint, painted the wheels silver using index cards for masking and posted it for $1,000 and ended up taking $900. It was my quickest flip ever.
Brad, a great spray can flat black is Dupli-color bumper paint, it has a great fan spray and covers well. it does fade but to more of a charcoal gray and not that weird purple you mentioned, and if you know how to use a spray can well it covers large areas well without lines and streaks, the only matte black ill use or recommend after painting 2 vehicles with it
Thanks for this. Two questions: 1) Do you typically sand after second coat of paint before hitting with matte clear? 2) How much time do you wait for the paint to dry before the clear?
I used a 800 grit scuffing pad it baby left miniature scratches that I could only see in direct light is that enough scuff I was afraid if I left bigger actual scratches that it would show in the clear?
thanx, man!! Im painting my bass guitar in black matte. This video was very helpfull specially the part when you talk about the "clear". That was my mayor concern.
@@BradAngove Hi I hope you are very well. Thank you very much for your videos, I have some questions and I would like you to help me: * I'm going to use rustoleum Black canyon Satin Black on a guitar, and I like the satin finish with that characteristic gloss on it. So I have some doubts about it so that it has a professional finish and they are the following: 1) how many layers of satin black are enough 2 or 3 ? 2) will the Spraymax 2k clear coat change the finish of the rustoleum satin black a lot? I want it to keep that subtle shine and richness of the overall color. 3) between layer and layer of black I only have to wait 10 minutes without sanding? And then wait 48 hours of drying to apply the 2k clear coat? Before applying this clear layer if I have to sand? Thank you I look forward to your prompt response
2 layers is generally fine. Gloss 2K on that will turn it gloss, which defeats the purpose of using satin. If anything you’ll want a satin clear coat 10-15 minutes between your two layers should be fine, but it is dependent on the atmospheric conditions.
@@BradAngove Thank you for taking the time to respond. What I want is a satin black finish, and I was thinking of using a 2k clear coat over the Black satin for added protection, I think I would use Spraymax 2k semi matte clear, because the rustoleum clear satin is not as resistant and durable. Can you please recommend me a Clear 2k satin Other than Spraymax semi matte? which is the best that you have used? Thanks
I love your voice! :o You sounds like the voice actor of one of my favorite characters in an oldish animation (90s I think) Animation: Please Save My Earth (Canadian/English dub) Character: Mikuro (shows up in later episodes) Very good, thought provoking series-I also fully recommend the manga, since the OVA only really covers the first arc
Hi Brad, my bike sorely needs a good repaint; since it's old I'll go DIY, let me ask you some questions: 1) how much time between color coat and clear coat? Has the color coat to be completely dried? 2) I want to mask some part of the frame and use another color, how much time before applying masking tape (I'm afraid to strip the coating) Many thanks in advance Cheers
Ok, first point covered, sorry. But as a noob I'd like to know: what is the difference between letting the color coat dry and waiting ten minutes... Only time constraints for the vid?
Let the first colour dry completely before masking for the second. The difference is you can only build up so many coats without allowing for them to fully dry before continuing. Otherwise the bottom layers will never harden. Check out my frankenstrat paint job series. That should give you a good outline for doing the bike paint job.
Brad ur the man thxs so much for taking the time and giving us small town guys the ability to achieve Perfection just like on your guitars lol ur a bass!!! Lol thxs bro!!!keep ur videos going!!!
Hey man I know this is an old video but I love this matt black guitar neck that MGKs schecter has and was wondering what you recommend to get this affect on a neck
Hello Brad, your video was very useful and it is very easy to follow the steps. I am painting my guitar matte black and i just have a couple questions. How long do i wait for sanding after the two coats of matte black? What kind of sandpaper do I use. Thank you
Hi Brad. Thanks for the videos. I am busy using Rust-Oleum Painters Touch 2X Ultra Cover "Paint & Primer" (Satin) to finish a Les Paul Kit. My first general question is: Are these considered Enamel paints? Or something else? I never know the difference. My next question is: I have finished my satin colour and satin clear coats by waiting 10 minutes between each. 48h has passed and I would however like to add an additional clear coat or two, just to give it a bit more protection. Must I sand the previous clear coat (that I sprayed 48h ago) before adding my intednded follow-up clear coats, with this specific paint? Or can I get away by just spraying without sanding? Thanks in advance.
Hi Craig, Those paints are acrylic as far as I understand. Although I consider them acrylic enamel, because they seem to be formulated to behave somewhat like enamel. You will want to sand with 800 grit before adding additional coats, otherwise you risk adhesion issues.
Can you tell me what is the best Satin, not matte, black Spray Paint in cans in your opinion? This is for a guitar project. Thanks. Your videos are excellent!
Which primer did you use? I'm going to be redoing a dining set using your method. Noted everything from your video except for the primer of choice. Thank you.
If you are doing a car with cans ... Should you scruff it between the paint and the clear? .. And u mentioned to use a flat clear coat with uv protection .. .. I am doing a gloss black design on the flat black base coat ... So my question is ... Do i scuff the matte black base before tne gloss design .. Then scuff the whole thing before the uv protection flat clear .. I think the consistant clear ove both the flat and glossy areas will make for an awesome look .. What are your thoughts.. And if u could answer me about when and when not to do a 2k grit wet sand ... Or a dry 2k grit sand ... Or just a scotch bringht scuff .. I'd greatly appreciate your input and expertise! .. Thanks
Hi Jeremy. I’m having a bit of trouble deciphering exactly what your plan is, but I suggest you start by watching my video on how to do matte and gloss designs. Once you’ve seen that, leave a comment there with your remaining questions and we can discuss.
Thank you so much for the tutorial. I'm planning to repaint my diecast car model to matte black. Hope I can do it successfully. Just subscribed to your channel 😊
Thank you for the great video. Say you wanted to spray paint a handlebar (meaning you have few exposed areas) would you consider dropping the clear layers? Also, thinking about possible thickness issues (when sliding the controls back in place), should I remove the paint completely first? And would I need a different primer for the metal surface then?
This primer should be fine for metal. I almost always use clear to protect my paint. You may want to tape off the areas where the controls go to eliminate the thickness issue.
Hey brad I have a few questions on wether or not you could tell me the brands of everything in the video because I’m currently painting my own guitar and I need to know because I’m using your video as a guide
@@BradAngove Yeah, you show how to get rid of the sheen with a Scotchbrite pad towards the end of the video but at the same time you denounce this approach, calling it a bad idea. But it makes the surface more matte, so if you're not rubbing through the clearcoat and into the paint then what makes it a bad idea?
Would it look good if I used this same matte black paint but with a gloss clear? I am wondering if I did it with the gloss clear instead maybe it would look good on a car?
It would be better to use gloss paint, let it harden, sand smooth with 800 grit, and then use gloss clear. Realistically though painting a car with spray cans like this is unlikely to look good. It will probably be streaky and uneven.
Hey Brad, I have a question. Can I use 2k matte clear coat (rattle can) over regular satin black rattle can paint? The black can is the exact same as you have Rust-Oleum canyon black. Will it react or something? Also, do you know of any rattle can paint that can witstand gasoline? I'm planning on painting my bike gas tank. Thanks! Amazing videos. Keep up the good work!
You should be able to do that. Let the black dry fully, then scuff it back lightly before applying your matte paint. I have a recent video on how to get a professional looking clear coat from spray cans. In that one I used a 2K gloss polyurethane over these rustoleum cans. Spraymax, who made the 2K gloss, also makes a 2K matte. It's automotive paint, so it should withstand gasoline in a very similar way to a typical automotive clear coat.
Great video! I do have a question. I really like the 2k ultra cover glossy navy blue spray can, but i would like a matt finish on my motorcycle gas tank. My question is, if i use the 2k ultra cover matt clear spray can will it give me that matt finish that i want?
Hey buddy I had a question on flat black spray paint and clear coat I plan on painting my rims flat black and then putting a clear coat on afterwards what would you suggest
Im going to be painting a hockey helmet in matte black, i sanded off the clear coat it originally had on it. Should i prime it? Or can i start using the flat black without primer. (Its a plastic shell) if i do have to use primer how long should i wait to start using the paint after priming? Should I use the 10 min rule? Start painting 10 min after the last coat if primer and same with the matte clear?
If you didn’t sand all the way through the clear then you don’t need to prime. If you did, then you should use a plastic compatible primer. I would give the primer two days to dry and then sand lightly before painting.
Hey brad need some advice, I spray painted a telecaster kit matte black last year with krylon paint and primer + matte finish. I want to redo the paint job and possibly fill in the grain that’s poking through. What would you recommend? Should I just sand everything off and start new? Or could I scuff it and start from there? Is it possible to fill the wood grain after it’s already been spray painted and finished? The wood is paulownia. Thanks! Love your vids!
Great stuff... doing a guitar and this helped a lot. Had a question(s) though... if I did a few coats of satin or matte black (not decided yet) then follow up with the satin/matte clear, can I wet sand the clear when done? I'm certain if I did 4-6 coats of clear for a good solid coating, it probably won't be as smooth as I'd like. Would wet sanding be a good idea? would it be a good idea to sand before applying the clear if runs/ripples? Also... if wanting a satin/matte finish, does the black coat have to be satin/matte?
If you've got runs etc. in your black you'll want to sand that out before applying the clear. The black doesn't necessarily need to be satin/matte, but if you're letting it dry to sand it before clear coating, you'll need to sand off any glossiness so that the clear will stick. You could wet sand it, but I don't see why you would need to. Normal sanding with no-load paper would suffice.
Hey brad great vids man, im in the process of repainting my strat and had a question. Looked through other comments but couldn't find exactly what I'm thinking about. I have a gloss color and matte clear coat. Can i flash clear coat it? I dont really care if it's matte or clear it's just what I have already. I see you told others to wait a few days and then re-sand and apply the matte clear. What will the result be if i just wait the 10 mins and hit it with the matte clear after gloss color?
+Jordan Elliot There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to do that, as long as it doesn't result in you firing 5-6 coats total on in one session. If you're doing a couple of each it should be fine. The concern is that if you build up a bunch of layers without a drying session, the ones underneath will never harden properly.
Thinking of refinishing a guitar with a mix of matte black and matte orange. In regards to durability (as you discussed in this video), how many coats of clear do you think I should apply? I was originally thinking 4, but I'm not sure if that is too many. I have pretty much zero experience painting guitars, but I sold paint (house paint) for 8 years. So I have some general paint knowledge. The guitar in question is gloss black now. I would prefer to not sand to bare wood, but do you feel that will give me a better quality end result? The idea I have is a matte orange top, with matte black sides and back. Thanks for this video and the four part video series on painting a guitar with spray cans. They have been insightful.
Hi there. I don't think it's necessary to sand to bare wood, particularly if the gloss black is the original finish. I would also say that 3 coats of clear should be sufficient. As you increase the number of coats, you increase some of the risks related to drying issues etc. If I were in your situation, I would do something along these lines: 1. Scuff the whole guitar down with 600 grit so that the new paint will stick (but no need to go all the way through the clear), and clean it. 2. Tape off everything that you don't want to turn orange. 3. Spray 2 coats of matte orange, or to full coverage (likely 10 minutes apart depending on paint type). 4. Unmask the remaining painted areas (leave the fretboard, cavities, and anything else that isn't painted masked off). 5. Spray two coats of matte clear (make sure it's compatible with the orange paint).
Brad Angove Thank you so much for the in-depth tips! That was a huge help. Didn't think about the potential drying issues with multiple clear coats. Good advice! Since I'm doing the sides matte black, and the top a matte orange, does it matter which order I finish the colors? I don't see there being any benefits to doing the orange first, or the black first, but I'm curious if there is something I'm missing there. Thanks again!
I think we had a small miscommunication in there haha. Those were essentially all the steps. Unless I'm misunderstanding your situation, there should be no need to spray any black since the guitar is already black. You just need to scuff the gloss off and put matte clear over the part that you're leaving black.
Ah, understood. I was going to coat the sides and back in matte black since I got this guitar used and its a little beat up in those areas with nicks and scratches.
first time that i am painting with spray (painting anything at all actually), i will be painting some solid body guitars matte red, and pickguards black... i have been training in the basement, with a plank found on the street, what i did: DAY 1 1/ sanded at P320 grit (because that's all i have), 2/ washed the surface, dried, 3/ then matte primer, 20 minutes, 4x1/ matte colour, 20 minutes, 4x2/ again matte colour, rest for the day, DAY 2 (so far i like the result, not perfect, i see some weird cracking spot somewhere in the middle, but i like seeing the grain of the wood) 1/ sanded at P320 grit, 2/ washed the surface, dried, 3/ clear coat matte, 4x1/ matte clear coat 20 minutes, 4x2/ again matter clear coat 20 minutes, i just finished the two layers of clear coat letting rest for the day... what i have noticed is because i am not skilled yet at painting with cans, it's uneven and i get some white-ish spots should i have done a second layer of clear finish? by the way i have been binging your videos, i have found them very entertaining and pedagogic. if only i could spray evenly, it's not easy.
also how much should i spray the finish layer? for colours it is intuitive, but for the finish, especially matte, (since it's transparent haha) i am not sure know what to aim for.
@@BradAngove now I know why the painter on counting cars doesn't like doing satin black, what a nightmare! The pigmented clear coat is impossible to keep from clouding.
Is it safe to continuously touch something that's been spray painted (and has dried fully)? Meaning is dried spray paint safe to touch for extended periods of time (ie if you painted a tennis racket handle and continuously touch it during a long game)
Well, I’m not a doctor but I’m pretty sure we all touch things with paint on them very frequently. I would be more concerned that if you pint the grip on a racket it will just come off because it’s a soft surface that you would be applying pressure to.
Great video, thanks. I destroyed the matte black finish on a low-end / $200 Harley Benton bass guitar recently, and want to do a very minimal re-paint on it, and take it to matte silver. Do you by chance take on super small projects like that? I don't currently have a space to do it.
Sorry to hear that it needs a touch up. I’ve actually stopped taking on projects at all pretty much. If you tell me where you’re located I might know of someone though.
Thanks@@BradAngove . I contacted them, they were nice, but said they don't take stuff like this anymore. I think I'll just try it myself, using this video. One question, you didn't seem concerned about sanding between coats (except after primer). Was that just because of the sample you were using for this video, or because it's not really needed with matte, since it's quicker drying? I'm gonna go with the matte clear coat at the end too. I'm not super concerned, it's a low end bass, I just want a finish on it. Thanks again.
Im curious if you had a chance to experiment with the new flat metallic paint now available? Rust-Oleum 271473 Universal All Surface Spray Paint, 11 oz, Flat Metallic Soft Iron?
Everything I did on my bass guitar kit prior to this video post is exactly what ya did so yay! You taught me well! and happy Canada Day bud! (pending when you read this) Cheers!
Hey man, your videos have been really helpful!! So just to get this clear you do 2 coats of primer, scuff it with 800 grit, 2 coats of flat matte then a final coat of matt clear?? I plan on doing this on my guitar and was wondering how many cans i will need? Also do you have and advice on spraying glosss stripes on a matte finish?? Thanks!!!
I did two or three coats of the clear as well. You should be able to get away with one can of each, particularly since you don't necessarily need to sand back your matte and polish it. Spray your matte finish first, let it cure, then mask off the gloss stripes and spray them. Polish them if you need to before you remove the tape. I should be doing a video on this process some time reasonably soon.
What would you recommend for spray painting an indoor metal handrail along the stairwell? It's currently painted a flat black but is wearing in spots where it's being grabbed?
My question is what chemicals if spilled on the 2x clear coat when fully cured or dried will disintegrate the clear layer...I.E Can alcohol? (What strength)
I finish my top coat matte black for 24hrs in my bike frame. But i noticed some part of is rough. Can I sand it again 1000 grit and apply top coat again?
Hi Brad, I've just painted a bare aluminium flat tray with etching primer and satin black paint. Can I put a clear satin lacquer on top for extra outside use durability or is it not required? Also if I put vinyl decal stickers on the satin black paint, can I spray on a clear satin lacquer to permanently seal the decals?
Hey Brad! great video. i have a question. 2 days ago i painted my speakers matte black using spray cans however i did not use the clear coat as i was not aware. the final product looks great, but i noticed the paint was not durable at all. is it okay to spray matte clear coat now?
Yes, you should be able to clear coat now as long as it's the same type of paint. You will probably want to lightly scuff the surface of the paint first with some sandpaper or scotch brit to help the clear coat stick.
Hi Brad, Love the videos. I plan on creating a dual finish on my guitar body, half with a satin wood finish and the other half with matte white paint, in what order do you think i should apply the two finishes?
Hey Brad, I'm refinishing a headstock matt black/matt clear, how long would you recommend letting the matt clear dry before refitting the tuning pegs, truss rod cover etc? Thanks a billion, really appreciate your videos.
@@BradAngove Cool, I've got Hycote acrylic formula matt black and matt clear. Not sure if you guys get that brand overseas, I'm in the UK and it seems reputable among people who use it here for guitar finishing work.
hi brad kinda late my vape's plastic cover is kinda messy i wanted to repaint it and matte black is really cool do you mind advicing me on how to do it?
If you were looking to use a color, could you use the satin finish and get a similar result? I’ve only seen black and camouflage colors in flat finishes, but I have a metal project I’d like to in corporate red or blue but still want that Matt/frosted finish. I don’t have an HVLP setup at the moment, so rattle cans are my only option. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge on these videos, they’re very helpful. 👍🏻😉👊🏻
You can spray your colour in whatever finish you want. Then let it dry fully, sand it with some 800 grit so your clear will stick, and then use a matte clear on it.
Nice vid Brad, keep up the good work! I bought some Dupli color Flat Black General Purpose Acrylic Enamel to paint my wheels. Can I put 2 clear Matte on those? Will the result would be great? I’m not sure ‘cuz it’s not the same brand, and 2k Clear are mor for profesionalish paint job. Help me plz.
i want to do some lace work with a gloss black base and a matte black overspray. What clear do i use??? Btw your vids rock man. Ive never painted anbything until i watched one of your vids and now ive painted half my car and want to do lace work now. got the bug bad
I’m not sure if I fully understand what you are aiming for, but take a look at my video on how to paint matte and gloss patterns and let me know if that helps.
Ho Brad I want to paint my motorcycle panels to black Matt they are black gloss my question is do I need to remove the black gloss paint or just paint on it and what do I need to paint it?
+Safa Chemloul you just need to scuff up the gloss and spray a matte clear. You don't need to mess with the black at all unless there's something wrong with it.
If I use rustoleum flat black, and clear it with spray max 2k, will I still get a nice wet look even though I used flat black? I want a wet look..using a spray can because of the surface size
I have read that some people use Magic Sponge to remove the shine from playing/rubbing hand on guitar. What do you think about using magic sponge for this purpose? I have also removed finger smudges and superficial scratches from a matte Thinkpad T530 laptop lid with Magic Sponge and windex. It worked great and it made the laptop look almost new.
I have a question Can this technique be used on small ( hand size ) items that Are made out of plastic And if not What type of spray paint Matt protectant will be needed to protect that item from friction created by my hands
We're thinking of using spray cans to provide a matte black finish to a panel on one of our products - it's part of a home furniture set. Do you recommend using spray cans for production (we're looking at a few hundred to a thousand units) ? Or is there a better approach ?
In my view you would be better of setting up a proper spray setup for that kind of volume. Particularly if it is a relatively large piece that you’re working on.
Hey man! Youre awesome! I was doing more research and this was actually my first choice of a paint job on my Jaguar guitar project! I may actually so this instead, but the stain is definately something I wanna do too lol! Anyway your videos are awesome! Thanks a bunch man!
Hey brad, I'm spraying my Aluminium MTB frame, planning on using acrylic based everything. Does the frame have to be 100% perfectly smooth and polished prior to primer or will applying self etch primer, then sand, then repeat give me a good surface for base coat and lacquer. Hope that makes sense, great videos too.
Totally makes sense. You definitely don't want it to be polished before you apply the primer, but smooth is important. The process you're describing can remove minor imperfections, but primer isn't filler, and it won't take care of substantial dents or gouges.
the frame is 99% free from any thing and I'm hoping to lightly sand after each coat of primer and Base coats. Fingers crossed applying a 2k lacquer will be crystal clear by that point. Thanks, I'm on the right path. 👍
I painted my guitar matte black the paint color is actually called oil rubbed bronze so almost looks like a Black Rock if that makes any sense I was going for matte black but then this color looks a little better but I've been letting it dry for about 4 days now and the neck on my guitar is still sticky it's not wet it just feels sticky when I touch it I leave fingerprints how do I get rid of I really don't want to scratch my guitar up so sandpaper is definitely out of the question I was thinking about getting a scotch pad like you did in this video but you say you don't recommend doing that so now it's got me second-guessing
Great videos, all of them! I stumbled upon them because I want to paint my guitar (DIY kit) matte black. So far, I have little experience painting anything with spray cans, and I am worried about "orange peel" is that a similar issue with matte paint? Do you have any tips on how to avoid them?
Matte paint can still get orange peel but seems less prone to it. Usually we sand and polish it out, but you can't really do that with matte. So, just sand your second last coat of clear really flat and smooth (after drying of course) and keep your final coat light.
I'm looking to spray paint a Gameboy White. I don't really know anything about spray painting, but I assume matte white exists. Would using white be effected at all by UV rays?
Matte white definitely exists. Usually UV rays bleach colours and cause them to fade. That's not really an issue with white obviously. There might be some other effect that I'm not considering though. Some of the higher quality paints have UV protection built into them.
Hey Brad, how durable is The Krylon Matte Clear Finish? I've tried The 2x Rust-Oleum Matte Clear and it was NOT matte at all! It looked more like Satin/Gloss to me. Not a fan of Rust-Oleum clear products. it either cracks or poxes on my Acrylic flat coats. I wanna try a Krylon Matte Clear on a Ikea computer desk top i've painted with a Exterior acrylic black, and just wanna know how durable it is for stains and scuffs.
Hi Brad, would you recommend this technique to paint a logo on a motorcycle gas tank? The log is letters only, aprox 4" x 4". The bike is a 2017 Indian Scout and the tank is Matte Black. the logo would be Matte Red. If not this technique, any other suggestions would be appreciated. I have a shop in my garage and i am very hands on, and have done a ton of custom work of all kinds. However I have very minimal painting experience.
I believe I have a video out on how to paint add graphics to a guitar which covers how to do logos. There would be no need for the primer in the circumstances you’re describing. Just sand the whole thing lightly with 600 grit, paint your logo, and then spray the whole thing with matte clear.
What's your opinion on the spraymax 2k matte clear coat ? Will it be the same depth/protection coat as the 2k gloss clear coat ? Is it worth to pay more for the 2k matte coat or will it not be worth the money and that I should just get the 2x from rust oleum? Im looking for a flat/matte clear coat for my 12 foot aluminum boat that I painted camo for hunting/fishing and looking for durability.
The spray max will be more durable than the rustoleum 2x. I’m pretty confident this stuff won’t hold up in water like that for very long. Gloss always has more depth and better protection.
That's interesting. When I do that I tend to just end up with a gloss finish. I have to take off a bit of the gloss with very high grit sandpaper to get that satin look after.
Hi Brad. I've been binge watching all of your videos and I just have a quick question. I will doing. a ceruse finish on an Ash body and I wondering if I needed to add primer for it? It will be a flat black with red or silver grain filling.
Hi Brad, I'm not great at spray painting at all and sometimes get a slightly noticeable build up with my matte finish. I have not put the clear finish on because of this. Any suggestions on fixing the build up? Saw some of your vids on it, but not sure which way to go. Thanks for the help!
Bought a guitar DIY kit of a Les Paul Junior and I'm doing it in a matte black, just finished priming it. My first guitar paintjob, so hopefully it ends up at least okay :D
I think it went fairly well, minus some dripping I didn't sand down properly. I made a journal on DeviantArt with some photos of my progress which I will update as I start the final assembly 9joakim7.deviantart.com/journal/DIY-guitar-kit-from-Gear4Music-620817761
Nice work. It looks pretty good to me. Thanks for the shoutout in the beginning as well. You can put the matte black on in slightly lighter coats. The same goes for the clear. They don't need to be that heavy really. Also, don't worry about that guy who says you have to use nitro. Very few companies use nitro these days. I bet if I repainted one of his les pauls with poly he wouldn't be able to hear the difference at all haha.
Can i use flat black as the primer and top it with doff black? I saw that my guitar has a flat black colour as the primer paint for the guitar and then doff black for the matte part.
Yes, it should. For the best results in that case, I would let the gloss black dry fully for a day or two, scuff it lightly, and then apply the matte clear.
Again thanks for this well presented vdo.... just wanted to ask if the same Rust-Oleum 2X Matte Clear spray can be used as top / finishing coat for chalk painted furniture?
It probably could, but I’m not sure what purpose that would serve. The chalk paint is already relatively durable, and the clear wouldn’t really do much except remove its ability to be drawn on and make it slightly less matte.
@@BradAngove Won't the chalk paint absorb water and oil if left without a topcoat? Am talking about painting my computer table, coffee table and TV cabinet with the chalk paint.
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Finally a finish I can use some cheap enamel on and not go through the tedious wait for nitro to dry. I think my beat up Tele bass is about to go black... vid still helping people 3 years later Brad. Nice job.
Thanks John.
My old 1982 S-10 turned out great with the exact same Rustoleum "painters touch" flat black you're using, but even after 2 days of curing. If I touched the paint, even with clean hands, the fingerprints would remain and be very hard to clean.
I cleaned it with some sprayway and hit it with the same Rustoleum matte clear and I got all kinds of compliments about how good it looked.
When I posted it on Craigslist, the guy I had bought it from the week before saw it on CL and called me to tell me how great it looked. I gave him $500, put about 5 hours of body work and interior detailing, $30 in paint, painted the wheels silver using index cards for masking and posted it for $1,000 and ended up taking $900. It was my quickest flip ever.
Thanks so much, Brad! Very clear and well-presented advice. My flat-black slide guitar is looking awesome.
Thank you a TON! I am re-doing my motorcycle and your spray paint tutorials have helped immensely!
I’m glad to hear it.
How did it turn out?
Brad, a great spray can flat black is Dupli-color bumper paint, it has a great fan spray and covers well. it does fade but to more of a charcoal gray and not that weird purple you mentioned, and if you know how to use a spray can well it covers large areas well without lines and streaks, the only matte black ill use or recommend after painting 2 vehicles with it
+jon lawrence Thanks Jon. That's good to know.
Thanks for this. Two questions: 1) Do you typically sand after second coat of paint before hitting with matte clear? 2) How much time do you wait for the paint to dry before the clear?
Yes. And if I’m going to sand I wait a day at least.
I used a 800 grit scuffing pad it baby left miniature scratches that I could only see in direct light is that enough scuff I was afraid if I left bigger actual scratches that it would show in the clear?
Brad, your videos have been a great help finishing the guitars I build. Thanks dude.
I'm very glad to hear that. Thanks for watching.
thanx, man!! Im painting my bass guitar in black matte. This video was very helpfull specially the part when you talk about the "clear". That was my mayor concern.
Sir ive got a new bike frame....
So do I have to remove that old color...Or just i repaint directly onto it...Pls reply
Btw it's on aluminum
Sand it with 400 grit first so the primer will stick. You don’t need to remove the paint.
@@BradAngove so I need to do a primer coat....If yes how many
Yes. 2.
@@BradAngove thanks man
Followed your very detailed guide and my rebuilt guitar turned out great!
Was going for Jim Root's black strat signature model.
Awesome. Glad to hear it turned out the way you wanted.
@@BradAngove
Hi I hope you are very well.
Thank you very much for your videos, I have some questions and I would like you to help me:
* I'm going to use rustoleum Black canyon Satin Black on a guitar, and I like the satin finish with that characteristic gloss on it.
So I have some doubts about it so that it has a professional finish and they are the following:
1) how many layers of satin black are enough 2 or 3 ?
2) will the Spraymax 2k clear coat change the finish of the rustoleum satin black a lot? I want it to keep that subtle shine and richness of the overall color.
3) between layer and layer of black I only have to wait 10 minutes without sanding? And then wait 48 hours of drying to apply the 2k clear coat? Before applying this clear layer if I have to sand? Thank you
I look forward to your prompt response
2 layers is generally fine. Gloss 2K on that will turn it gloss, which defeats the purpose of using satin. If anything you’ll want a satin clear coat 10-15 minutes between your two layers should be fine, but it is dependent on the atmospheric conditions.
@@BradAngove
Thank you for taking the time to respond.
What I want is a satin black finish, and I was thinking of using a 2k clear coat over the Black satin for added protection, I think I would use Spraymax 2k semi matte clear, because the rustoleum clear satin is not as resistant and durable.
Can you please recommend me a Clear 2k satin Other than Spraymax semi matte? which is the best that you have used? Thanks
The spraymax is a good option. I also like the car-rep 2K clear.
I love your voice! :o You sounds like the voice actor of one of my favorite characters in an oldish animation (90s I think)
Animation: Please Save My Earth (Canadian/English dub)
Character: Mikuro (shows up in later episodes)
Very good, thought provoking series-I also fully recommend the manga, since the OVA only really covers the first arc
Nice; I’ve always wanted to sound like a cartoon.
@@BradAngove haha 🥰🙏
Hi Brad, my bike sorely needs a good repaint; since it's old I'll go DIY, let me ask you some questions:
1) how much time between color coat and clear coat? Has the color coat to be completely dried?
2) I want to mask some part of the frame and use another color, how much time before applying masking tape (I'm afraid to strip the coating)
Many thanks in advance
Cheers
Ok, first point covered, sorry. But as a noob I'd like to know: what is the difference between letting the color coat dry and waiting ten minutes... Only time constraints for the vid?
Let the first colour dry completely before masking for the second. The difference is you can only build up so many coats without allowing for them to fully dry before continuing. Otherwise the bottom layers will never harden.
Check out my frankenstrat paint job series. That should give you a good outline for doing the bike paint job.
Thank you, your knowledge from this and your other videos helped me paint my scooter
Glad to hear it
Brad ur the man thxs so much for taking the time and giving us small town guys the ability to achieve Perfection just like on your guitars lol ur a bass!!! Lol thxs bro!!!keep ur videos going!!!
Thanks Dave. I’m glad you’re finding the videos helpful.
Hey man I know this is an old video but I love this matt black guitar neck that MGKs schecter has and was wondering what you recommend to get this affect on a neck
I’d probably use the matte black 2K epoxy from car rep.
Hello Brad, your video was very useful and it is very easy to follow the steps. I am painting my guitar matte black and i just have a couple questions. How long do i wait for sanding after the two coats of matte black? What kind of sandpaper do I use. Thank you
I would wait two days and use 800 grit paper.
Hi Brad. Thanks for the videos. I am busy using Rust-Oleum Painters Touch 2X Ultra Cover "Paint & Primer" (Satin) to finish a Les Paul Kit. My first general question is: Are these considered Enamel paints? Or something else? I never know the difference. My next question is: I have finished my satin colour and satin clear coats by waiting 10 minutes between each. 48h has passed and I would however like to add an additional clear coat or two, just to give it a bit more protection. Must I sand the previous clear coat (that I sprayed 48h ago) before adding my intednded follow-up clear coats, with this specific paint? Or can I get away by just spraying without sanding? Thanks in advance.
Hi Craig,
Those paints are acrylic as far as I understand. Although I consider them acrylic enamel, because they seem to be formulated to behave somewhat like enamel.
You will want to sand with 800 grit before adding additional coats, otherwise you risk adhesion issues.
Can you tell me what is the best Satin, not matte, black Spray Paint in cans in your opinion? This is for a guitar project. Thanks. Your videos are excellent!
You can turn this into a satin finish simply by spraying a satin clear coat over the matte black. The same clear I used here is available in satin.
Brad Angove Big thanks for the info!
I painted my hood ultra matte black. With can came out fine. Depends on how you paint it, the conditions of weather.
Which primer did you use?
I'm going to be redoing a dining set using your method. Noted everything from your video except for the primer of choice.
Thank you.
I just used an enamel primer of the same make for this.
@@BradAngove thank you, sir
You’re quite welcome.
Thx for your video, now i know about the clear matte!
If you are doing a car with cans ... Should you scruff it between the paint and the clear? .. And u mentioned to use a flat clear coat with uv protection .. .. I am doing a gloss black design on the flat black base coat ... So my question is ... Do i scuff the matte black base before tne gloss design .. Then scuff the whole thing before the uv protection flat clear .. I think the consistant clear ove both the flat and glossy areas will make for an awesome look .. What are your thoughts.. And if u could answer me about when and when not to do a 2k grit wet sand ... Or a dry 2k grit sand ... Or just a scotch bringht scuff .. I'd greatly appreciate your input and expertise! .. Thanks
Hi Jeremy. I’m having a bit of trouble deciphering exactly what your plan is, but I suggest you start by watching my video on how to do matte and gloss designs. Once you’ve seen that, leave a comment there with your remaining questions and we can discuss.
Thank you so much for the tutorial. I'm planning to repaint my diecast car model to matte black. Hope I can do it successfully. Just subscribed to your channel 😊
I hope your project goes well. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for the great video. Say you wanted to spray paint a handlebar (meaning you have few exposed areas) would you consider dropping the clear layers? Also, thinking about possible thickness issues (when sliding the controls back in place), should I remove the paint completely first? And would I need a different primer for the metal surface then?
This primer should be fine for metal. I almost always use clear to protect my paint. You may want to tape off the areas where the controls go to eliminate the thickness issue.
Hey brad I have a few questions on wether or not you could tell me the brands of everything in the video because I’m currently painting my own guitar and I need to know because I’m using your video as a guide
It’s rustoleum
A bit late to the plate here, but I was wondering- why do you not recommend going at the finish with the Scotchbrite?
in what context? To make it look more matte afterward?
@@BradAngove Yeah, you show how to get rid of the sheen with a Scotchbrite pad towards the end of the video but at the same time you denounce this approach, calling it a bad idea. But it makes the surface more matte, so if you're not rubbing through the clearcoat and into the paint then what makes it a bad idea?
Hey brad, so I am repainting a LTD and I was wondering if you could do a video on painting the hardware (ie. Standard bridge, tuner knobs, etc.)
Hi Dave. I think I’ve done a video on painting hardware, or a least a bridge plate, before.
Any advice on how to get a sand textured matte black finish? Fairly smooth and light texture
Truck bed liner.
Would it look good if I used this same matte black paint but with a gloss clear? I am wondering if I did it with the gloss clear instead maybe it would look good on a car?
It would be better to use gloss paint, let it harden, sand smooth with 800 grit, and then use gloss clear.
Realistically though painting a car with spray cans like this is unlikely to look good. It will probably be streaky and uneven.
Very nice explanation
Hey Brad, I have a question. Can I use 2k matte clear coat (rattle can) over regular satin black rattle can paint? The black can is the exact same as you have Rust-Oleum canyon black. Will it react or something? Also, do you know of any rattle can paint that can witstand gasoline? I'm planning on painting my bike gas tank.
Thanks! Amazing videos. Keep up the good work!
You should be able to do that. Let the black dry fully, then scuff it back lightly before applying your matte paint. I have a recent video on how to get a professional looking clear coat from spray cans. In that one I used a 2K gloss polyurethane over these rustoleum cans. Spraymax, who made the 2K gloss, also makes a 2K matte. It's automotive paint, so it should withstand gasoline in a very similar way to a typical automotive clear coat.
Alright, thanks a lot. I will try that and will post a video with the results (if I don't fuck up tho).
Well, I hope it goes well for you so that I can see the video haha.
Great video! I do have a question. I really like the 2k ultra cover glossy navy blue spray can, but i would like a matt finish on my motorcycle gas tank.
My question is, if i use the 2k ultra cover matt clear spray can will it give me that matt finish that i want?
Is it 2K, or 2x?
Hey buddy I had a question on flat black spray paint and clear coat I plan on painting my rims flat black and then putting a clear coat on afterwards what would you suggest
Im going to be painting a hockey helmet in matte black, i sanded off the clear coat it originally had on it. Should i prime it? Or can i start using the flat black without primer. (Its a plastic shell) if i do have to use primer how long should i wait to start using the paint after priming? Should I use the 10 min rule? Start painting 10 min after the last coat if primer and same with the matte clear?
If you didn’t sand all the way through the clear then you don’t need to prime. If you did, then you should use a plastic compatible primer. I would give the primer two days to dry and then sand lightly before painting.
To paint metal rings into matte black. What should I do exactly? How many coats of matte black spray paint? And do I need other spray paint?
+Curious Harsh you should do the same thing I did in the video, including the primer and the clear coat.
Nice tnx brad very helpful
Hey brad need some advice, I spray painted a telecaster kit matte black last year with krylon paint and primer + matte finish. I want to redo the paint job and possibly fill in the grain that’s poking through. What would you recommend? Should I just sand everything off and start new? Or could I scuff it and start from there? Is it possible to fill the wood grain after it’s already been spray painted and finished? The wood is paulownia. Thanks! Love your vids!
Scuff it back significantly, clean it, and then fill with something like drywall patching putty instead of wood filler. Sand smooth and repaint.
@@BradAngove thank you for the advice!
Great stuff... doing a guitar and this helped a lot. Had a question(s) though... if I did a few coats of satin or matte black (not decided yet) then follow up with the satin/matte clear, can I wet sand the clear when done? I'm certain if I did 4-6 coats of clear for a good solid coating, it probably won't be as smooth as I'd like. Would wet sanding be a good idea? would it be a good idea to sand before applying the clear if runs/ripples? Also... if wanting a satin/matte finish, does the black coat have to be satin/matte?
If you've got runs etc. in your black you'll want to sand that out before applying the clear. The black doesn't necessarily need to be satin/matte, but if you're letting it dry to sand it before clear coating, you'll need to sand off any glossiness so that the clear will stick.
You could wet sand it, but I don't see why you would need to. Normal sanding with no-load paper would suffice.
Hey brad great vids man, im in the process of repainting my strat and had a question. Looked through other comments but couldn't find exactly what I'm thinking about. I have a gloss color and matte clear coat. Can i flash clear coat it? I dont really care if it's matte or clear it's just what I have already. I see you told others to wait a few days and then re-sand and apply the matte clear. What will the result be if i just wait the 10 mins and hit it with the matte clear after gloss color?
+Jordan Elliot There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to do that, as long as it doesn't result in you firing 5-6 coats total on in one session. If you're doing a couple of each it should be fine. The concern is that if you build up a bunch of layers without a drying session, the ones underneath will never harden properly.
Thinking of refinishing a guitar with a mix of matte black and matte orange. In regards to durability (as you discussed in this video), how many coats of clear do you think I should apply? I was originally thinking 4, but I'm not sure if that is too many. I have pretty much zero experience painting guitars, but I sold paint (house paint) for 8 years. So I have some general paint knowledge. The guitar in question is gloss black now. I would prefer to not sand to bare wood, but do you feel that will give me a better quality end result? The idea I have is a matte orange top, with matte black sides and back. Thanks for this video and the four part video series on painting a guitar with spray cans. They have been insightful.
Hi there. I don't think it's necessary to sand to bare wood, particularly if the gloss black is the original finish. I would also say that 3 coats of clear should be sufficient. As you increase the number of coats, you increase some of the risks related to drying issues etc.
If I were in your situation, I would do something along these lines:
1. Scuff the whole guitar down with 600 grit so that the new paint will stick (but no need to go all the way through the clear), and clean it.
2. Tape off everything that you don't want to turn orange.
3. Spray 2 coats of matte orange, or to full coverage (likely 10 minutes apart depending on paint type).
4. Unmask the remaining painted areas (leave the fretboard, cavities, and anything else that isn't painted masked off).
5. Spray two coats of matte clear (make sure it's compatible with the orange paint).
Brad Angove Thank you so much for the in-depth tips! That was a huge help. Didn't think about the potential drying issues with multiple clear coats. Good advice! Since I'm doing the sides matte black, and the top a matte orange, does it matter which order I finish the colors? I don't see there being any benefits to doing the orange first, or the black first, but I'm curious if there is something I'm missing there. Thanks again!
I think we had a small miscommunication in there haha. Those were essentially all the steps. Unless I'm misunderstanding your situation, there should be no need to spray any black since the guitar is already black. You just need to scuff the gloss off and put matte clear over the part that you're leaving black.
Ah, understood. I was going to coat the sides and back in matte black since I got this guitar used and its a little beat up in those areas with nicks and scratches.
Oh, I see. In that case, it doesn't make much difference what colour you do first.
first time that i am painting with spray (painting anything at all actually), i will be painting some solid body guitars matte red, and pickguards black...
i have been training in the basement, with a plank found on the street, what i did:
DAY 1
1/ sanded at P320 grit (because that's all i have),
2/ washed the surface, dried,
3/ then matte primer, 20 minutes,
4x1/ matte colour, 20 minutes,
4x2/ again matte colour,
rest for the day,
DAY 2 (so far i like the result, not perfect, i see some weird cracking spot somewhere in the middle, but i like seeing the grain of the wood)
1/ sanded at P320 grit,
2/ washed the surface, dried,
3/ clear coat matte,
4x1/ matte clear coat 20 minutes,
4x2/ again matter clear coat 20 minutes,
i just finished the two layers of clear coat letting rest for the day... what i have noticed is because i am not skilled yet at painting with cans, it's uneven and i get some white-ish spots
should i have done a second layer of clear finish?
by the way i have been binging your videos, i have found them very entertaining and pedagogic. if only i could spray evenly, it's not easy.
also how much should i spray the finish layer? for colours it is intuitive, but for the finish, especially matte, (since it's transparent haha) i am not sure know what to aim for.
Would there be any problems if the Matt/ clear was appiled a week or so after the paint?
Generally that shouldn’t be an issue.
If I weat sand paint before clear coat will clear coat bring color back out, or will it screw it up and have to repaint it?
It will fill in the scratches and make it look good again as long as you use a reasonable grit of paper. 800 is a good option.
@@BradAngove now I know why the painter on counting cars doesn't like doing satin black, what a nightmare! The pigmented clear coat is impossible to keep from clouding.
Excuse me sir, what is the grit size of the sand paper to use before spraying the black? Couldnt understand, thanks in advance for the help
400 grit
Thanks Brad, Excellent video!
Thank you
Is it safe to continuously touch something that's been spray painted (and has dried fully)? Meaning is dried spray paint safe to touch for extended periods of time (ie if you painted a tennis racket handle and continuously touch it during a long game)
Well, I’m not a doctor but I’m pretty sure we all touch things with paint on them very frequently. I would be more concerned that if you pint the grip on a racket it will just come off because it’s a soft surface that you would be applying pressure to.
Great video, thanks. I destroyed the matte black finish on a low-end / $200 Harley Benton bass guitar recently, and want to do a very minimal re-paint on it, and take it to matte silver. Do you by chance take on super small projects like that? I don't currently have a space to do it.
Sorry to hear that it needs a touch up. I’ve actually stopped taking on projects at all pretty much. If you tell me where you’re located I might know of someone though.
@BradAngove Thanks for the reply. I'm in the Boulder/Denver CO area.
@@BradAngove Or if you don't know of anyone in this area, maybe I'll just try your approach here with cans, matte silver. Nothing special.
Texas Toast Guitars is around there. I expect they know someone who would be suited for this job.
Thanks@@BradAngove . I contacted them, they were nice, but said they don't take stuff like this anymore. I think I'll just try it myself, using this video. One question, you didn't seem concerned about sanding between coats (except after primer). Was that just because of the sample you were using for this video, or because it's not really needed with matte, since it's quicker drying? I'm gonna go with the matte clear coat at the end too. I'm not super concerned, it's a low end bass, I just want a finish on it. Thanks again.
Im curious if you had a chance to experiment with the new flat metallic paint now available? Rust-Oleum 271473 Universal All Surface Spray Paint, 11 oz, Flat Metallic Soft Iron?
I haven’t tried that one specifically.
Should I use those 2 on silver kitchen cabinet nobs?
I was wondering what was best if matte or flat.
Matte and flat are the same.
Everything I did on my bass guitar kit prior to this video post is exactly what ya did so yay! You taught me well! and happy Canada Day bud! (pending when you read this) Cheers!
I'm glad to hear that Brian, and thank you. Happy belated Canada day to you.
Hey man, your videos have been really helpful!!
So just to get this clear you do 2 coats of primer, scuff it with 800 grit, 2 coats of flat matte then a final coat of matt clear??
I plan on doing this on my guitar and was wondering how many cans i will need? Also do you have and advice on spraying glosss stripes on a matte finish??
Thanks!!!
I did two or three coats of the clear as well. You should be able to get away with one can of each, particularly since you don't necessarily need to sand back your matte and polish it.
Spray your matte finish first, let it cure, then mask off the gloss stripes and spray them. Polish them if you need to before you remove the tape. I should be doing a video on this process some time reasonably soon.
thats awesome man thanks for the help!!! im subbed so i'll look forward to the video!!
Not looking to do the whole truck just the roll pan and it's already a different color what grit should I scuff before primer
320
What would you recommend for spray painting an indoor metal handrail along the stairwell? It's currently painted a flat black but is wearing in spots where it's being grabbed?
If you use an enamel with a bit more sheen it will be more durable again that abrasion polishing.
Matte'r finish! Love it!
Can you do a matte grey spray paint tutorial too..im kinda having problem painting my motorcycle wheel mags..thank you hope ur read this.
It’s the same process.
So if I buy matte black and use matte clear would it give me the same? Or should I buy only matte black with clear to not over shine it?
Matte clear over any sheen of black will give you a matte black finish if you let the base coat dry fully and sand with 800 grit before clear coating.
My question is what chemicals if spilled on the 2x clear coat when fully cured or dried will disintegrate the clear layer...I.E Can alcohol? (What strength)
Hey Brad. Can I use the rustoleum flat black primer+paint in one and use the matte clear on top? It’s for a guitar. Thanks !
You can. I don’t like those two-in-one products but sometimes they’re all that’s available.
I finish my top coat matte black for 24hrs in my bike frame. But i noticed some part of is rough. Can I sand it again 1000 grit and apply top coat again?
Yes
So if I want the whole matte turning glossy where your skin touches the guitar, I shouldn't do a clear coat?
Matte clear coat will still do that.
Great video, you're a very good communicator.
Thanks man.
Hi Brad, I've just painted a bare aluminium flat tray with etching primer and satin black paint. Can I put a clear satin lacquer on top for extra outside use durability or is it not required?
Also if I put vinyl decal stickers on the satin black paint, can I spray on a clear satin lacquer to permanently seal the decals?
You can put a satin clear coat on there, as long as it is compatible. And yes, you can use clear coat to seal in decals.
can i ask something? i have a zippo chrome lighter here, how do i paint it with matte black?? i hope you teach me how to matte finish it.. thanks
You can do that the same way. Sand it, prime it, and paint it.
Hey Brad! great video. i have a question. 2 days ago i painted my speakers matte black using spray cans however i did not use the clear coat as i was not aware. the final product looks great, but i noticed the paint was not durable at all. is it okay to spray matte clear coat now?
Yes, you should be able to clear coat now as long as it's the same type of paint. You will probably want to lightly scuff the surface of the paint first with some sandpaper or scotch brit to help the clear coat stick.
Hi Brad, Love the videos. I plan on creating a dual finish on my guitar body, half with a satin wood finish and the other half with matte white paint, in what order do you think i should apply the two finishes?
I would apply the satin natural finish first and let that dry fully. Then I would mask, sand the area getting the white, and apply the white finish.
@@BradAngove thank you!
Hey Brad, I'm refinishing a headstock matt black/matt clear, how long would you recommend letting the matt clear dry before refitting the tuning pegs, truss rod cover etc? Thanks a billion, really appreciate your videos.
It depends on the paint type. With this stuff, if you’re keeping your coats light and are in relatively warm dry conditions, a couple weeks usually.
@@BradAngove Cool, I've got Hycote acrylic formula matt black and matt clear. Not sure if you guys get that brand overseas, I'm in the UK and it seems reputable among people who use it here for guitar finishing work.
I’m not familiar with it. Checking with the manufacturer is probably your safest bet.
Thanks for the tips. Any suggestions for clear coating non-painted metals Specifically copper?
There are specific clear coats made for copper. I believe Mohawk has one.
hi brad kinda late my vape's plastic cover is kinda messy i wanted to repaint it and matte black is really cool do you mind advicing me on how to do it?
Have a look at my video on how t paint plastic parts properly.
@@BradAngove alright thanks bud!
If you were looking to use a color, could you use the satin finish and get a similar result? I’ve only seen black and camouflage colors in flat finishes, but I have a metal project I’d like to in corporate red or blue but still want that Matt/frosted finish. I don’t have an HVLP setup at the moment, so rattle cans are my only option. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge on these videos, they’re very helpful. 👍🏻😉👊🏻
You can spray your colour in whatever finish you want. Then let it dry fully, sand it with some 800 grit so your clear will stick, and then use a matte clear on it.
Brad Angove Excellent, I will give it a try! Thanks for the info! 👍🏻
You’re welcome.
If I did this on a guitar, would I still finish by wet sanding and polishing or would that make it glossy?
That would make it glossy.
Nice vid Brad, keep up the good work! I bought some Dupli color Flat Black General Purpose Acrylic Enamel to paint my wheels. Can I put 2 clear Matte on those? Will the result would be great? I’m not sure ‘cuz it’s not the same brand, and 2k Clear are mor for profesionalish paint job. Help me plz.
You can use the 2k clear over that. It will be better than the duplicolor clear. How great it is will depend on how well the surface is prepared etc.
i want to do some lace work with a gloss black base and a matte black overspray. What clear do i use??? Btw your vids rock man. Ive never painted anbything until i watched one of your vids and now ive painted half my car and want to do lace work now. got the bug bad
I’m not sure if I fully understand what you are aiming for, but take a look at my video on how to paint matte and gloss patterns and let me know if that helps.
What kind of clear coat should I go for?
Spraymax makes a catalyzed matte clear that I suspect is very good.
Ho Brad I want to paint my motorcycle panels to black Matt they are black gloss my question is do I need to remove the black gloss paint or just paint on it and what do I need to paint it?
+Safa Chemloul you just need to scuff up the gloss and spray a matte clear. You don't need to mess with the black at all unless there's something wrong with it.
What type of clear would you recommend for a carbon fiber bike wheel 1k or 2k ?
Probably 2K if you have the appropriate safety equipment
If I use rustoleum flat black, and clear it with spray max 2k, will I still get a nice wet look even though I used flat black? I want a wet look..using a spray can because of the surface size
Yes, it will still end up gloss.
Are you supposed to sand before or after you prime?
Usually both.
How's the scratch resistant on clear coat?
How do you clean a matte guitar.what cleaner do you use.i have Kyser wooden instrument guitar polish cleaner.will that work with a matte finish?
It should work fine. Just test it in an inconspicuous area first.
I have read that some people use Magic Sponge to remove the shine from playing/rubbing hand on guitar. What do you think about using magic sponge for this purpose?
I have also removed finger smudges and superficial scratches from a matte Thinkpad T530 laptop lid with Magic Sponge and windex. It worked great and it made the laptop look almost new.
I’ve never tried it, so I have no idea. Sounds cool though.
Hi does standard color coat work instead of flat? Because there isnt a flat variant for the color i that want.
Yes, if you’re going over it with the matte clear that should be fine.
I have a question
Can this technique be used on small ( hand size ) items that Are made out of plastic
And if not
What type of spray paint Matt protectant will be needed to protect that item from friction created by my hands
I can give you information About the item in question
It can be used to paint those items, but friction will eventually polish them up a bit.
We're thinking of using spray cans to provide a matte black finish to a panel on one of our products - it's part of a home furniture set. Do you recommend using spray cans for production (we're looking at a few hundred to a thousand units) ? Or is there a better approach ?
In my view you would be better of setting up a proper spray setup for that kind of volume. Particularly if it is a relatively large piece that you’re working on.
Hey man! Youre awesome! I was doing more research and this was actually my first choice of a paint job on my Jaguar guitar project! I may actually so this instead, but the stain is definately something I wanna do too lol! Anyway your videos are awesome! Thanks a bunch man!
Thanks man. I’ve got some videos on stain too if you need them haha.
Yup, will look for your videos for reference when I start here in a few weeks! thanks bud!
Hey brad, I'm spraying my Aluminium MTB frame, planning on using acrylic based everything. Does the frame have to be 100% perfectly smooth and polished prior to primer or will applying self etch primer, then sand, then repeat give me a good surface for base coat and lacquer.
Hope that makes sense, great videos too.
Totally makes sense. You definitely don't want it to be polished before you apply the primer, but smooth is important. The process you're describing can remove minor imperfections, but primer isn't filler, and it won't take care of substantial dents or gouges.
the frame is 99% free from any thing and I'm hoping to lightly sand after each coat of primer and Base coats. Fingers crossed applying a 2k lacquer will be crystal clear by that point. Thanks, I'm on the right path. 👍
+Philip Pycroft glad to hear it.
Is the primer necessary ? What difference would i have if i dont use it?
It depends on what you’re painting.
I painted my guitar matte black the paint color is actually called oil rubbed bronze so almost looks like a Black Rock if that makes any sense I was going for matte black but then this color looks a little better but I've been letting it dry for about 4 days now and the neck on my guitar is still sticky it's not wet it just feels sticky when I touch it I leave fingerprints how do I get rid of I really don't want to scratch my guitar up so sandpaper is definitely out of the question I was thinking about getting a scotch pad like you did in this video but you say you don't recommend doing that so now it's got me second-guessing
Have a look at my video on why your paint isn’t drying properly and let me know if you have any of those issues.
Will this work for plastic parts that are already matte colored?
Yes, but have a look at my old video on how to paint plastic parts properly.
Great videos, all of them! I stumbled upon them because I want to paint my guitar (DIY kit) matte black. So far, I have little experience painting anything with spray cans, and I am worried about "orange peel" is that a similar issue with matte paint? Do you have any tips on how to avoid them?
Matte paint can still get orange peel but seems less prone to it. Usually we sand and polish it out, but you can't really do that with matte. So, just sand your second last coat of clear really flat and smooth (after drying of course) and keep your final coat light.
@@BradAngove Thanks Brad, I appreciate the help. Good luck with the Guitar Build off!
Awesome! Am I able to do this for a guitar too?
+Josh Sexton sure thing.
I'm looking to spray paint a Gameboy White. I don't really know anything about spray painting, but I assume matte white exists. Would using white be effected at all by UV rays?
Matte white definitely exists. Usually UV rays bleach colours and cause them to fade. That's not really an issue with white obviously. There might be some other effect that I'm not considering though. Some of the higher quality paints have UV protection built into them.
Hey Brad, how durable is The Krylon Matte Clear Finish? I've tried The 2x Rust-Oleum Matte Clear and it was NOT matte at all! It looked more like Satin/Gloss to me. Not a fan of Rust-Oleum clear products. it either cracks or poxes on my Acrylic flat coats. I wanna try a Krylon Matte Clear on a Ikea computer desk top i've painted with a Exterior acrylic black, and just wanna know how durable it is for stains and scuffs.
I haven’t really used the krylon, but I’m guessing it’s not very durable at all.
Hi Brad, would you recommend this technique to paint a logo on a motorcycle gas tank? The log is letters only, aprox 4" x 4". The bike is a 2017 Indian Scout and the tank is Matte Black. the logo would be Matte Red. If not this technique, any other suggestions would be appreciated. I have a shop in my garage and i am very hands on, and have done a ton of custom work of all kinds. However I have very minimal painting experience.
I believe I have a video out on how to paint add graphics to a guitar which covers how to do logos. There would be no need for the primer in the circumstances you’re describing. Just sand the whole thing lightly with 600 grit, paint your logo, and then spray the whole thing with matte clear.
What's your opinion on the spraymax 2k matte clear coat ? Will it be the same depth/protection coat as the 2k gloss clear coat ? Is it worth to pay more for the 2k matte coat or will it not be worth the money and that I should just get the 2x from rust oleum? Im looking for a flat/matte clear coat for my 12 foot aluminum boat that I painted camo for hunting/fishing and looking for durability.
The spray max will be more durable than the rustoleum 2x. I’m pretty confident this stuff won’t hold up in water like that for very long.
Gloss always has more depth and better protection.
Nice vid. I do a combo at work when I'm out of satin black for my parts which is a flat black with a gloss clear.
That's interesting. When I do that I tend to just end up with a gloss finish. I have to take off a bit of the gloss with very high grit sandpaper to get that satin look after.
I guess it works, it keeps the boss from yelling at me, LOL.
That's the important part haha.
Hi Brad. I've been binge watching all of your videos and I just have a quick question. I will doing. a ceruse finish on an Ash body and I wondering if I needed to add primer for it? It will be a flat black with red or silver grain filling.
You shouldn't use primer for that. You want to keep that black finish thin to allow the grain to stay open for your other color.
@@BradAngove Thank you so much!
Hi Brad, I'm not great at spray painting at all and sometimes get a slightly noticeable build up with my matte finish. I have not put the clear finish on because of this. Any suggestions on fixing the build up? Saw some of your vids on it, but not sure which way to go.
Thanks for the help!
+Kevin Infante I would sand it back flat and try to do a light coat of the matte clear to even everything out.
Bought a guitar DIY kit of a Les Paul Junior and I'm doing it in a matte black, just finished priming it. My first guitar paintjob, so hopefully it ends up at least okay :D
Awesome; let me know how it goes.
I think it went fairly well, minus some dripping I didn't sand down properly.
I made a journal on DeviantArt with some photos of my progress which I will update as I start the final assembly
9joakim7.deviantart.com/journal/DIY-guitar-kit-from-Gear4Music-620817761
Nice work. It looks pretty good to me. Thanks for the shoutout in the beginning as well. You can put the matte black on in slightly lighter coats. The same goes for the clear. They don't need to be that heavy really.
Also, don't worry about that guy who says you have to use nitro. Very few companies use nitro these days. I bet if I repainted one of his les pauls with poly he wouldn't be able to hear the difference at all haha.
Thank you :)
I went a little overboard with the coats yeah
And the guy is cool, he just wanted to help
Can i use flat black as the primer and top it with doff black? I saw that my guitar has a flat black colour as the primer paint for the guitar and then doff black for the matte part.
You can get black primer, yes.
Hi brad, just want to ask, will it have the same result if i use gloss black and apply a matte clear finish?
Yes, it should. For the best results in that case, I would let the gloss black dry fully for a day or two, scuff it lightly, and then apply the matte clear.
Finally someone asks the question I was about to ask lol thanks Brad you're freaking awesome
Again thanks for this well presented vdo.... just wanted to ask if the same Rust-Oleum 2X Matte Clear spray can be used as top / finishing coat for chalk painted furniture?
It probably could, but I’m not sure what purpose that would serve. The chalk paint is already relatively durable, and the clear wouldn’t really do much except remove its ability to be drawn on and make it slightly less matte.
@@BradAngove Won't the chalk paint absorb water and oil if left without a topcoat? Am talking about painting my computer table, coffee table and TV cabinet with the chalk paint.
I don’t think it will absorb things, no. But what is the purpose of using chalk paint if you’re going to clear coat over it?
@@BradAngove so no need for the top coat? And the paint will not spoil right?
It generally doesn’t.