Interesting how Syd was laughed at by Waters before he was vindictively kicked out for a "crazy" suggestion to bring in a female singer/saxaphone player then Waters gets praised as a "genius" for Darkside where he utilised Syds ideas including rerecording Syds "clockwork room" at the end of Bike for start of Time which Alan Parsons outrageously got praised as a "genius" for instead in what sounds like one of the biggest injustices and ignored copyright rip offs in modern music history.
You're right 100%, when genius goes unrecognized or ignored, we, as a Society/Culture ALL lose out and never know it, such a shame for those brilliant trailblazers! Peace
@@JamesDeWeaver Yeah it is thanks, really hard to imagine Jagger/Richards being responsible for all the great additions Brian Jones brought to their otherwise average songs too. I came across this Daily Mail Online article from 2015, this guy is the classic devious reverse psychologist transferring his insanely greedy guilt onto others whilst pretending to be the "hero" for young musicians (except Syd). "Pink Floyd's Roger Waters slams 'rogues and thieves' who run free streaming sites and steal from musicians"
@@wotdoesthisbuttondo Roger is attempting to retrospectively re-write history imo. I've never thought either he or David as personalities NOT as Musicians brought anything to Pink Floyd other than bs, esp. nowadays, Roger needs to shut his pie hole when it comes to this! Cheers mate and have some fun on NYE if you can! Stay cool.
@@TheBatugan77 Ah, you must be Piers Morgan, he was anyway and where's his posthumous Darkside credits for at very least Time? seems like Roger needs to start scribbling cheques to Syds family.
@@Flerg3 Waters is the real madman literally unaware he's happlily telling everyone what a 2 faced b'stard he was first mocking then later ripping off Syds ideas inc his clockwork room at end of Bike for Time for what became their biggest selling album and nasty tight fisted backstabber Waters never gave poor Syd a bean of the fabulous wealth generated by it, Can see why Syd was sometimes overheard by his neighbour yelling "f*ck Roger Waters i'm going to f*cking kill him" in early-mid '80s probably made even more upset again after seeing Waters conflate his life with Waters grim commie psycho one in the Wall, Waters would be nothing without Syd life to exploit whilst he was conveniently officially labeled mad actually instigated by Waters in the first place whilst prising Syd out the band in midst of largely spiked by others mental stress though his gigs in late 1967 with Syd sounding like he's on top form show he was in a lot better shape than given credit for by Waters, what a c*nt, no wonder he's stuck with no one but other wonky hard left psychos like Bob Geldof for friends now. i wonder if they use activism where certain to be given nothing but praise they generate money for to try and blot out guilty consciences? essentially needing to buy friends.
Sometimes, when your mind has been opened, you see through the bullshit of the people around you. They, of course, will see your seeing through them as crazy.
who said that? how do YOU know that? give cred bro yr comment is .... somehow disrespectful, an ignorant over simplification, crass, ill considered do you understand the concepts of 'subtlety"? 'diplomacy'? 'veneration'? et al?
BubbaZen10 that's perception of an alienating kind, if you see others as bullshit. There's also paranoia in taking drugs, fear, flashbacks, complexes, and schizophrenia. To recede from others around you isn't healthy, and the others will want to be away from the person too.
It's more complex than 'Syd went crazy in 1967'. Listen to his BBC sessions recorded 1970 and 1971 and he sounds very much together, but moving in a different direction to his old band
Oh, he quite did go crazy. There is another level on complexity on that 'put-togetherness' you're going on about here. According to Wright and Waters, who helped Syd with his solo albums, it was very difficult to get Syd to record. He'd often forget what he was doing, never did the takes the same twice, and would frequently enter catatonic or fugue states. He was aware that he was slipping, as the underlying tone of The Madcap Laughs suggests (if you strip away the 'love' aspects slapped onto every song, you'll find something very alarming). In Barrett, he had kind of entered a post-awareness stage, in which his lyrics were largely nonsensical. He took Mandrax just so he could go to sleep, which over time degraded his singing voice and created ulcers in his stomach. And, the horrid thing here was that Storm Thorgeson (good friend of Syd's and album cover designer for the Floyd) found out that some roommates of Syd's were slipping LSD in his coffee every morning for fifteen days straight. It's like Roger described, to paraphrase 'he came back from a long weekend, and his eyes looked dead. The light was gone from them.'
@@Briccibracci Syd lost his regular function in November 1967. Waters attributes it to the way Syd was raised, all delicate and such. It's really a mystery.
@@kingfisherman9830 syd lost his mind for a while for sure but he wasnt schizophrenic just very bipolar. His producer for his first album said often good things about syds energy nothing was wrong with him and even syds girlfriend said he was likr himself before he joined the group after being depressed for a whole month for leaving them. Syd wasnt this crazy yall love to point out he was just lazy and that was his downfall.
@@kingfisherman9830 I’m pretty sure the story about his suitemates slipping acid into his coffee is just a tall tale. LSD builds up tolerance so quickly that you can really only take it once every 2 weeks without increasing the dosage exponentially, so even if they really were doing that it wouldn’t have had any effect on him after the first dosage.
I was a huge fan of LSD and Pink Floyd was a major staple of music for the trip. By the Grace of God I didn't go too deep inside. A close friend dropped some and was never the same. Alan Watts said it best, "Psychedelic experience is only a glimpse of genuine mystical insight, but a glimpse which can be matured and deepened by the various ways of meditation in which drugs are no longer necessary or useful. If you get the message, hang up the phone. For psychedelic drugs are simply instruments, like microscopes, telescopes, and telephones. The biologist does not sit with eye permanently glued to the microscope, he goes away and works on what he has seen..."
Z C syd barrer Roger Waters in an interview said that Syd suffered from schizophrenia that plus the abuse of marijuana and lsd caused the gene to wake up
Lil Mau if you believe what Roger water said bout Syd, your clearly fooled.. the whole band ripped him off. The said he was crazy just take what he made . Pink Floyd was named by Syd , he was the creator of a new sound , a new genre . Those four pigs ruined him just to take wat he made . Syd was a cool dude , a artist , a painter , ... that’s why they dedicate so many songs about him, cuz of guilt.. ..
@@Animal_jo your out of line - Syd quit showing up for shows & couldn't write anything anymore because of too many damn drugs. Party all the time. Pink Floyd loved Syd
Jeff Baker , I’m so sure that if u started a band with a unique style and your friends that you trusted with ur life backstabbed u and replaced u , I think you’ll be pissed too.
In life we all have our path to walk........some are super highways, some are just a muddy trail through the forest. I'm grateful I made it back to reality. God Bless you Syd where ever you are.....................
That part of Roger talking about Syd's departure is obviously edited. "After Syd went crazy" *cut* "in '68 and Dave joined" *cut* etc. In variety TV shows like this people do it all the time, it's deliberately edited to take away any context. Don't be fooled.
The mono mix of "Piper at the Gates of Dawn" had state-of-the-art production for 1967. And things like the intro to "Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk" becoming the heartbeart for "Speak To Me", and the clocks at the end of "Bike" becoming the clock effects on "Time". It all started with their first album.
+michael88863 When I listen to Meddle, I can hear concepts being developed and instrumentation being drafted and in Obscured by Clouds (One of my favourite albums), The songs became more and more consistant and had better lyrics, despite being a soundtrack. Put the 2 together, you get Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here.
Today is the day he set the controls for the heart of the sun. Rest in Peace, Roger Keith "Syd" Barrett 6 January 1946 - 7 July 2006. The Madcap is laughing, watching, and knows we'll get the joke someday. -peace
Some of the most creative people in HisTOry pushed the edge of insanity. It takes thinking outside the box and a genuine spirit to make true Art. Those kinda people feel alone because they are a rarity. Never being able to connect With others can drive you into isolation.
The style of the band at this point was heavily indebted to the first Pink Floyd album, The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, but filtered through their own color spectrum. The Pink Floyd connection went beyond mere sonic hat tipping, since Alice Cooper played host to Pink Floyd on the British band's first U.S. tour. “We were the house band at the Cheetah for a period of time in ’67,” Smith recalls. “One of the perks was we could go see any of the bands playing there. Pink Floyd were there one week. I remember the first or second song they played, Syd went up to sing and boom! A spark came from the microphone and hit his lip. He just put his arms down to his sides, backed about a foot away from the stand and just stood there like a statue for the rest of the night. After the show, they came back to our house and partied with us all night long. Syd walked in like a zombie. He didn’t talk to anybody, he just stood there. He seemed a bit psychotic, and the mass quantities of LSD certainly didn’t help.” Read More: Alice Cooper Drummer Neal Smith Recalls the Early Days | ultimateclassicrock.com/alice-cooper-neal-smith-interview-2018/? Those bastards didn't even take him to the hospital after getting electrocuted on stage.
Wow i never knew that, yet Waters was most insistent upon taking Syd to some "eminent" shrink who dutifully declared Syd an "incurable madman"so Waters could seize control and look like the "genius" who "saved" Pink Floyd. Now i'm wondering if that defective mic was rigged to shock Syd on purpose? did it happen to anyone else?
@@jolo8146 Yeah i know but apparently he had absolutely zero concern of sympathy for Syd making a weird show of smashing his bass in frustration then telling the manager Syd should be thrown out so he was already hostile by sounds of things. I'm wondering if there was ever some unmentioned fundamental argument between Syd and Waters about the direction of the band with Waters walways wanting to turn Floyd into some kind of political protest band and Syd saying no then Waters started getting quietly aggressive towards him?
@@righthand7965 Yeah, i smell jealousy, i get the impression Waters was always hanging round Syd when they were young but not the other way round and it benefitted Waters far more than Syd at the end of the day.
Great comment. But that extends to ANY condition that debilitates you. Mentally OR physically. In your good times your friends know you....in your bad times you know WHO your friends really are.
What an amazing and extraordinary piece of highly technical work by the band. This is not just an album, but a journey through the ins and outs of life, going through all different feelings. For me, when I was only 12 years old when this album appeared, it was a start of a journey that changed my life for good.
Dark Side of the Moon is a masterpiece and my favorite thing Pink Floyd ever did...but people overlook Meddle. Meddle was the beginning of the shift in Pink Floyd's music. This is where they became the band that dominated the 70s. It's almost like the demo for what Dark Side of the Moon was going to be, but it's kind of cheap to call it a demo, because it's such a well made album. Meddle is my third favorite Floyd album, behind Dark Side and Wish You Were Here.
Maybe Syd was OK and everyone else was crazy. There's him living a serene life painting pictures in his mother's house and walking or cycling into town for his shopping, living off his royalties. In the mean time the others were amassing the millions that they can't spend in a lifetime, endlessly touring with increasingly massive roadshows, eventually falling out with each other, …….. whilst fixating on Syd.
@@paulkozar7454 Still they told him that the guitar on the album was finished and sent him on his merry way and he became a recluse until he died. For all the mourning on his part, Roger did absolutely nothing to help him out.
I was 9 years old when ,Dark Side of the Moon, was brand new. Hearing it for the first time , was a musical life changing experience. The sound quality, the cool stereo effects and soundbites , the haunting guitar solos and lyrics , and those mind blowing synthesizer sounds on an album cover with no name or title on it. it definitely opened up a whole new world of other music genres beyond the usual top 40 pop on AM radio I normally listened to.
I, too, first listened to it when I was nine.... And somehow didn't like it. It made me feel isolated in those "long" instrumentals I was subjected to, and the topics that were 'sparsely' sang of made me fear death already more than I did. Now, I've listened to the Floyd so much that I go into an album one minute and emerge the next, wondering where my 40-60 minutes had gone.
Loved the bit with the flash cards and the answers from the roadies, it's little things like that make Dark Side all the better the little added content that makes it really stand out in the music industry. All great albums.
The true artists of the band were Roger (Syd) Barrett and Richard Wright. They were revolutionary with their sound for the latter part of the 60's. Listen how both sound on the newly remixed version of Paint Box. They were both experimenting musically and started concepts not only with their playing but recording as well. Pure Creativeness & Genius !!
@@thebrazilianatlantis165 The first two could have been written by Syd, Gilmour's solos are amazing. Syd was more of an innovator on guitar and quite influential but lacked the technical chops of Dave.
Marcia Hines Wow What a voice! I never paid much attenttion to her years ago but Ive only just recently played an Album of hers on vinyl. She sounds incredible,what a talent.
It's true that they should have changed the name. That was so long ago, what's done is done. The Piper is a classic album. Momentous. One can only dream the rest, what could have been.
D Thomp You clearly don't even know what you are talking about 😂 They didn't kick him out of the band, it was really for the best that Syd left because the way he was mentally at that point, it was hard for him to stay and perform as a band. After he left pink floyd, he did a couple solo albums then left the music world forever. He wasn't necessarily with them when they were performing.. of that makes sense. He would kind of forget what he was doing or just walk around stage or not play. They were all very close to Syd and I'm sure none of them wanted him to be out of the band, but it had to happen.
I'm pleased to see even some post-Barrett Floyd fans recognising Waters' egomania. It's one of the only options available to the mediocre to stop them hating themselves. He knows he tapped into the mediocre appreciation gene of the masses and he hates it. He hates it because he knows that Syd tapped into the much rarer thing that is the masses' appreciation for genius.
Everyone's raping on Waters. It's Gilmour! It's Gilmour that's such an ass-hole-hat. Yikes, Siam cat. Everywhere that he appears he's got to insignificantize Syd's relevancy and essentially the importance of the only PF album that ever mattered.
I don't know how anybody could listen to Piper at the Gates and then listen to Dark Side and come to the conclusion that Syd's music was superior in any way lmao
I hate the way these documentaries interview people who are not even born yet when this album came out or are not a rock music fan. Just interview Pink Floyd we don't care what dorma Richardson of Harvard science department thinks
@steven Brunton when Syd came to the studio in 1975, he had shaved his head and even eyebrows .he was brushing his teeth in the studio.. everyone thought he's a emi staff...he was unstable mentally...accept truth
@steven Brunton I've lived with schizophrenic dad my whole life..I know quite a bit about mental health issues...Syd lost his mind unfortunately and wasn't doing what he was supposed to do...he stopped singing and playing in the middle of concerts and wasn't coming for recordings etc...he was schizophrenic and I know that having a normal life with a person suffering from schizophrenia is impossible...the others in the band had to continue normally too..they had no choice but replace him...
@steven Brunton fact is that Syd couldn't continue his solo music career either proves that there was something wrong with his mental health...maybe he wasn't diagnosed coz he never went to doctor...there are stories of how he refused to have medical diagnosis...I know for a fact that schizophrenic persons get violent and never accept the fact that something's wrong with them....also Syd was a completely free man and could have written or spoken about what the band did to him to media easily ...but he never did that. So it means something was really wrong with him....
@steven Brunton denial won't help you....Syd is a classic case of schizophrenia...David Gilmour was his childhood friend and David helped him to bring out syd's solo album...the other bandmates made sure that he got his royalties from his work with pink Floyd...
You should probably study geography and anthropology before calling some one ignorant, ALL original AC/DC band members were European imigrants who migrated to Australia in the 50's and 60's and also Brian Johnson and Cliff Williams are European whether you like it or not it's a fact and incase you dudn't realize it ALL white people are European, who's the MOFO now ?
You have to be somewhat of a businessman to make it big in music. That's what killed music for Syd, while it did the opposite to Waters. I don't believe he went crazy. He did turn into a very weird and eccentric introvert after their initial success. The fame and the fake music industry must've made him sick to his core. The Syd acid schizophrenia story built the band's mystique even more, so business wise, it was a great story to go with. Syd got his royalty checks too, so there was less guilt about it.
Syd Barrett was suffering from related issues to schizophrenia, his mental illness was affected by his over indulgence with LSD (he did not do ludes nor heroin!). Syd was truly disgusted and overwhelmed by the fame he acquired in a short span of years which even lead to him returning to painting and creating two albums after his departure from Pink Floyd. The truth is Syd truly did lose his mental state because there were also a story of him during his later years involving a plumber that would occasionally come to fix his pipes since they were constantly damaged and the plumber knew he did them himself but he would just give a blank stare and always show him the damage without any explanation. Barrett was a fragile mind that was lost to his acid use since psychedelics is not for everyone and his abuse of them in turn was a double edge sword for him that would affect him till his last days on Earth... Syd was never in it for the money, he was in it for the music and the art behind it.
@@flashypixel33 Thanks for your well written and informative comment. I was not aware of Syd's crooked "Plumber"which after reading about it now and knowing of Syd's condition doesn't surprise me as there always seems to be some nefarious characters in this world willing to take advantage of others unable to do so for themselves. #Peace
As someone who also suffers from mental issues and has done LSD I always tought the whole thing was too convenient to be actually true. I won't deny he may have suffered a breakdown but it was a good excuse to leave the music scene as a legend+ creating a mythos+ promoting the band and live the rest of his days in peace as the artist he always was. Being esquizophrenic is far from being like a mindless animal like most think.
I wish they would stop saying he sent crazy and that he was schizophrenic. He didn't and wasn't, listen to his sister. Jabbing a break down doesn't mean you are crazy
I believe that Syd was mentally ill, but I think what made him go off the deep end was his addiction with psychedelic drugs. he should have gotten help but maybe the band should have looked after him better. they would have made a great 5 person band.
But being kicked out of the band also contributed to Roger (Syd) leaving music behind and focusing on his Art in Cambridge. A few comebacks in 1969 and 1970 with Madcap's and Barrett. But that was it. Burned out too soon. I believe Roger (Syd) had a lot more to contribute musically. His song Milky Way would have sounded great with Pink Floyd (sounds nice just on acoustic and vocals). Sometimes Fame has its draw backs...People taking advantage and mistreating Him !!!
He wasn't addicted to acid, and he didn't choose all the acid he endured either. People put acid in his coffee or in drinks at clubs and things, because they just assumed the star wanted some.
There were some jerks who would put drugs in his food and drinks, and some who locked him in a closet while he was tripping. A very mean thing to do, and that seriously worsened his condition. Perhaps if he didn't do those drugs he still would have been able to perform though he still had a mental condition. I do wish he could have stayed in the band but then again if he did we would never have gotten albums like the wall, animals, dark side of the moon etc. Roger (Syd) was a great man though and I think he had so much more to life but he just never got there
Syd Barrett's departure, mental decline, and their experience of that hard time helped the band clarify the line between madness and progressive mentality.
Pink Floyd just don’t want to admit they where outshined by a so called “crazy person” rather then a true honest person who made real music for the real listener that did not need wailing vocals or gimmicks to sell albums, just his guitar and his imagination. He did not write songs he was his songs they where a part of him and you can’t match that sorry but you can’t!!!
Dark Side was the album which was a commercial success and which made a major impact on its audience, yet to me this album seemed to be to “written” or “produced” and not created, it was like Punk Floyd gave up on creating and wrote this album for profit and promotion. This album seemed to me as if the band was trying to separate from the edgy, genuine and unique sound which was Pink Floyd and to lose the stigma from Syd Barrett and the idea that there music was considered as schizophrenic music or to “out there” its like they tried to hide the real Pink Floyd to reach a bigger audience and to be more commercially friendly and to use modern influences to help sales. This album to me is not as people say it is, it seemed as though they where trying to make a hit album not trying to make music from the heart. I know I will get guff for saying this but it’s how I feel!! The introduction of the soul vibe seemed to me as an attempt to capture its listeners through modern forms of entertainment and by using cultural influence to create a wider audience. To me this is not Pink Floyd, Pink Floyd does not need to use gimmicks or to commercialize themselves, Pink Floyd does not need such stunts to be amazing they are such naturally.
I concur with your thoughts on this album as well. There was an obvious change post Barrett which I believe as do others in the musical research field like Mark Devlin who's written two tremendous books on this subject Musical Truth volume 1 & 2 in that they (The Pink Floyd) were "helped" in the change process with technology by EMI for one and greater insight and understanding of human behavior via The Tavistock Institute to as you said expand their audience and influence on MANY more people to be exposed to and possibly take LSD corrupting forever the minds of young people in many cases, speaking from personal experience I saw and witnessed around me. #Peace
Rick Therrien The FIRST TRUE AND TRULY SUCCESSFUL STUDIO ALBUM. The beginning of so called studio rock " or CORPORATE ROCK. Why... because SOOO many different intricate things and obscure instruments and other stuff that went into the making and producing of the finished album. It simply could NOT be played live!! It NEVER would've sounded remotely the same. It's one of the reasons why CBGB'S artist and bands became famous. They took rock back to its roots. A drummer, a lead rythem guitar, a bass player, maybe another guitar... maybe cause' it wasn't really needed. And someone sung. Not about trippy or introspective shit. Just about, fucking, drinking, how bad ass they think they are or how nasty New York, or Philadelphia has become. THEY STREAMLINED THE CONCEPT OF BAND TO ITS BASICS AGAIN. BUT... Pink Floyd was HUGE THEN, and; for good reason.
I was maybe 8 when in1st heard it but was too young to grasp it. When I was in my 20s i was like oh...so that's what it was about. Actually i like wish you were here a slight but more than dark side.
In a saucerful of secrets, they make it pretty clear that it was a joke to roger/the band to dose syd with large amounts of acid without him knowing. Syds brain couldnt take it so it shut down. Who's fault is it, again????
Personally I find Dark Side of the Moon a commercial sellout. I used to play early Floyd and the rest, in stages, many years ago to my then 15 year old son. I didn't tell him my opinions about Dsotm. He liked everything up to Dsotm. He even asked if it was the same band. He said that Dsotm just reminded him of any 70s type rock or blues band.
Personally I think this is in the top 5 greatest rock albums along with axis:bold as love. Also the great gig in the sky is probably one of the most powerful instrumental tracks I personally have ever heard. It is one of the few albums I can turn on and just close my eyes and listen to
No se xq m da la imprecion dq roger waters a pesar d ser tan talentoso ..es una persona inconforme consigo mismo y esta lleno d envidia hacia los demas integrantes d pink floyd ...tal vez m eqivoco y no es hasi pero esa imprecion tengo cada q veo un documental d ellos..!
What is all these ridiculous comments.. first Sid was obviously very intelligent as I think anyway what some are saying but the truth being that his mind was lost from LSD which many including " doctors " say it does open up your subconscious and your " reality.. " It also causes brain damage into your now " reality " I know a person as a very young man very talented musician.. drummer, singer and writer that enjoyed what LSD did to him decided to do everyday for a week.. and since probably 25 years needs someone to wipe him. Another did once and same position. You never know
Cosmic Bonzo 2 years ago Some of the most creative people in HisTOry pushed the edge of insanity. It takes thinking outside the box and a genuine spirit to make true Art. Those kinda people feel alone because they are a rarity. Never being able to connect With others can drive you into isolation. Just like President Trump today' :)
The Wall is obviously more ambitious in scope, but Dark Side is a perfectly formed diamond. Animals trumps them both, however, as the only truly progressive rock album Floyd ever made. And it's pissed off music, too. Which is always good.
The lyrics of Dark Side of the Moon have been of far less significance to the album's success than this video purports. The music is melodically soothing in spite of the lyrical content. When recalling DSOTM more people think of the guitars, vocals and melodies than its lyrical content. The same is true of the entire Pink Floyd library. If the lyrics were so important Roger Waters would have experienced greater success in his solo career. Not to be confused with a case of Gilmour vs. Waters, the guitar and vocals associated with Pink Floyd could even sell the awful material Gilmour's wife penned for On An Island.
Dark Sides "Us and Them" to me,is a very melodic tune with great lyrics. As far as writing, I think Roger is brilliant. As for as his vocals go...ehhhhhh lol
I know this comment is old, but I just wanted to say that I love the lyrics, especially in "Time." EVERYTHING on this album (and the later ones... up to The Final Cut for me at least) is great and hits me deep, whether it's just the beat, Gilmour ' s guitar, or Rodger ' s lyrics, or all of it coming together ("Shine On..." on WYWH gets me everytime). I kinda think that it's awesome a band so dynamic existed, and am very sad that another won't be around in my lifetime... And I never even got to see this one play live even once :(
Yeah, Waters is overrated, I am a fan of a lot of his lyrics, but if you can't sit through an early Floyd instrumental, then I don't feel you can truly call yourself a Pink Floyd fan. Not to sound elitist, but I believe that it is very much worth it for people to explore their catalogue, as well as Syd's catalogue. Whether with Floyd or solo, Syd was the only member who could consistently with little effort deliver both good music and lyrics.
45 million people disagree with you but each to their own. "The album has sold over 45 million copies. It is believed to be the second best-selling album ever after Thriller by Michael Jackson. It is widely considered one of the greatest albums of all time." "Pink Floyd's acclaimed 1973 classic "Dark Side of the Moon" has spent an amazing 861 weeks riding the Billboard 200 album chart. That's over 16 (non-consecutive) years!"
@@secondchance6603 Yeah, but people also like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. Numbers alone do not mean something is good. Also, I merely said it was over rated, which it is. There's far too much love for an album that doesn't hold my interest.
@@Metal-Possum "I merely said it was over rated," Which is why I said each to their own. "There's far too much love for an album that doesn't hold my interest." You don't like it so everybody that does is wrong, all about you huh.
Du bist verrückt... Just kidding. Eh, it's fine. I've listened to Dark Side so much that I feel nothing but a time jump when I listen to it now. Like, where did my forty minutes go? Can I get them back? Why didn't I feel anything? Drug resistance, I guess.
Floyd Zepplin yeah. I knew the sid story. Just never saw the talent. Now the Floyd that used sid as their template for all of their stuff since, hell yeah!!
You’re missing the fact that syds songs that Syd wrote got them their record contract. And got them their initial success. And all the girls wanted Syd and roger was jealous. Do you get it now? Roger waters would be a school teacher if it weren’t for Syd’s “talentless” songwriting.
Interesting how Syd was laughed at by Waters before he was vindictively kicked out for a "crazy" suggestion to bring in a female singer/saxaphone player then Waters gets praised as a "genius" for Darkside where he utilised Syds ideas including rerecording Syds "clockwork room" at the end of Bike for start of Time which Alan Parsons outrageously got praised as a "genius" for instead in what sounds like one of the biggest injustices and ignored copyright rip offs in modern music history.
You're right 100%, when genius goes unrecognized or ignored, we, as a Society/Culture ALL lose out and never know it, such a shame for those brilliant trailblazers! Peace
@@JamesDeWeaver Yeah it is thanks, really hard to imagine Jagger/Richards being responsible for all the great additions Brian Jones brought to their otherwise average songs too.
I came across this Daily Mail Online article from 2015, this guy is the classic devious reverse psychologist transferring his insanely greedy guilt onto others whilst pretending to be the "hero" for young musicians (except Syd).
"Pink Floyd's Roger Waters slams 'rogues and thieves' who run free streaming sites and steal from musicians"
@@wotdoesthisbuttondo Roger is attempting to retrospectively re-write history imo. I've never thought either he or David as personalities NOT as Musicians brought anything to Pink Floyd other than bs, esp. nowadays, Roger needs to shut his pie hole when it comes to this!
Cheers mate and have some fun on NYE if you can! Stay cool.
Syd wasn't 'vindicatively' kicked out of anything. Cut the crap.
@@TheBatugan77 Ah, you must be Piers Morgan, he was anyway and where's his posthumous Darkside credits for at very least Time? seems like Roger needs to start scribbling cheques to Syds family.
“Dark side had soul” which included female singers and saxophonists. Exactly what Syd wanted to do back in 68 but they laughed at him.
I would love to have proof to prove this
@@GeronimoJackson it’s actually true. Roger says it in the documentary-The Pink Floyd story-which one’s pink?
@@Flerg3 Yep, Syd was always way ahead of his time. A true visionary but because of that he felt ostracized
@@Flerg3 Waters is the real madman literally unaware he's happlily telling everyone what a 2 faced b'stard he was first mocking then later ripping off Syds ideas inc his clockwork room at end of Bike for Time for what became their biggest selling album and nasty tight fisted backstabber Waters never gave poor Syd a bean of the fabulous wealth generated by it,
Can see why Syd was sometimes overheard by his neighbour yelling "f*ck Roger Waters i'm going to f*cking kill him" in early-mid '80s probably made even more upset again after seeing Waters conflate his life with Waters grim commie psycho one in the Wall, Waters would be nothing without Syd life to exploit whilst he was conveniently officially labeled mad actually instigated by Waters in the first place whilst prising Syd out the band in midst of largely spiked by others mental stress though his gigs in late 1967 with Syd sounding like he's on top form show he was in a lot better shape than given credit for by Waters, what a c*nt, no wonder he's stuck with no one but other wonky hard left psychos like Bob Geldof for friends now.
i wonder if they use activism where certain to be given nothing but praise they generate money for to try and blot out guilty consciences? essentially needing to buy friends.
exactly. He laughed of syd because he wanted include female singers but The dark side of the moon had it. So who was the really crazy man...
Gilmour..." and I thought we really had something fantastic here " ...what an understatement....
Sometimes, when your mind has been opened, you see through the bullshit of the people around you. They, of course, will see your seeing through them as crazy.
BubbaZen10 well said
BubbaZen10 Syd, was a schizophrenic
who said that? how do YOU know that?
give cred bro
yr comment is .... somehow disrespectful, an ignorant over simplification, crass, ill considered
do you understand the concepts of 'subtlety"? 'diplomacy'? 'veneration'? et al?
Thats what LSD does, it opens your mind to explore your inner-self.
BubbaZen10 that's perception of an alienating kind, if you see others as bullshit. There's also paranoia in taking drugs, fear, flashbacks, complexes, and schizophrenia. To recede from others around you isn't healthy, and the others will want to be away from the person too.
It's more complex than 'Syd went crazy in 1967'. Listen to his BBC sessions recorded 1970 and 1971 and he sounds very much together, but moving in a different direction to his old band
Oh, he quite did go crazy. There is another level on complexity on that 'put-togetherness' you're going on about here. According to Wright and Waters, who helped Syd with his solo albums, it was very difficult to get Syd to record. He'd often forget what he was doing, never did the takes the same twice, and would frequently enter catatonic or fugue states. He was aware that he was slipping, as the underlying tone of The Madcap Laughs suggests (if you strip away the 'love' aspects slapped onto every song, you'll find something very alarming). In Barrett, he had kind of entered a post-awareness stage, in which his lyrics were largely nonsensical. He took Mandrax just so he could go to sleep, which over time degraded his singing voice and created ulcers in his stomach. And, the horrid thing here was that Storm Thorgeson (good friend of Syd's and album cover designer for the Floyd) found out that some roommates of Syd's were slipping LSD in his coffee every morning for fifteen days straight. It's like Roger described, to paraphrase 'he came back from a long weekend, and his eyes looked dead. The light was gone from them.'
@@Briccibracci Syd lost his regular function in November 1967. Waters attributes it to the way Syd was raised, all delicate and such. It's really a mystery.
@lordklem This is a conversation that ended a year ago... 🤔
@@kingfisherman9830 syd lost his mind for a while for sure but he wasnt schizophrenic just very bipolar. His producer for his first album said often good things about syds energy nothing was wrong with him and even syds girlfriend said he was likr himself before he joined the group after being depressed for a whole month for leaving them. Syd wasnt this crazy yall love to point out he was just lazy and that was his downfall.
@@kingfisherman9830 I’m pretty sure the story about his suitemates slipping acid into his coffee is just a tall tale. LSD builds up tolerance so quickly that you can really only take it once every 2 weeks without increasing the dosage exponentially, so even if they really were doing that it wouldn’t have had any effect on him after the first dosage.
I was a huge fan of LSD and Pink Floyd was a major staple of music for the trip. By the Grace of God I didn't go too deep inside. A close friend dropped some and was never the same. Alan Watts said it best, "Psychedelic experience is only a glimpse of genuine mystical insight, but a glimpse which can be matured and deepened by the various ways of meditation in which drugs are no longer necessary or useful. If you get the message, hang up the phone. For psychedelic drugs are simply instruments, like microscopes, telescopes, and telephones. The biologist does not sit with eye permanently glued to the microscope, he goes away and works on what he has seen..."
Z C syd barrer Roger Waters in an interview said that Syd suffered from schizophrenia that plus the abuse of marijuana and lsd caused the gene to wake up
Lil Mau if you believe what Roger water said bout Syd, your clearly fooled.. the whole band ripped him off. The said he was crazy just take what he made . Pink Floyd was named by Syd , he was the creator of a new sound , a new genre . Those four pigs ruined him just to take wat he made . Syd was a cool dude , a artist , a painter , ... that’s why they dedicate so many songs about him, cuz of guilt.. ..
@@Animal_jo your out of line - Syd quit showing up for shows & couldn't write anything anymore because of too many damn drugs. Party all the time. Pink Floyd loved Syd
Sean Mcnerney are u sure he did ? We’re u there? I doubt that u were
Jeff Baker , I’m so sure that if u started a band with a unique style and your friends that you trusted with ur life backstabbed u and replaced u , I think you’ll be pissed too.
In life we all have our path to walk........some are super highways, some are just a muddy trail through the forest. I'm grateful I made it back to reality. God Bless you Syd where ever you are.....................
That part of Roger talking about Syd's departure is obviously edited. "After Syd went crazy" *cut* "in '68 and Dave joined" *cut* etc. In variety TV shows like this people do it all the time, it's deliberately edited to take away any context. Don't be fooled.
Agreed!
i'm pretty sure Floyd shaped their sound with Meddle and Obscured by Clouds they didn't just wake up with Dark
side lol
The mono mix of "Piper at the Gates of Dawn" had state-of-the-art production for 1967. And things like the intro to "Take Up Thy Stethoscope and Walk" becoming the heartbeart for "Speak To Me", and the clocks at the end of "Bike" becoming the clock effects on "Time". It all started with their first album.
+michael88863 When I listen to Meddle, I can hear concepts being developed and instrumentation being drafted and in Obscured by Clouds (One of my favourite albums), The songs became more and more consistant and had better lyrics, despite being a soundtrack. Put the 2 together, you get Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here.
Today is the day he set the controls for the heart of the sun. Rest in Peace, Roger Keith "Syd" Barrett 6 January 1946 - 7 July 2006. The Madcap is laughing, watching, and knows we'll get the joke someday. -peace
Some of the most creative people in HisTOry pushed the edge of insanity. It takes thinking outside the box and a genuine spirit to make true Art. Those kinda people feel alone because they are a rarity. Never being able to connect With others can drive you into isolation.
amen !
Great comment
YES
You can say THAT Shit again!
He overdosed on acid.The Syd that wrote music was gone ............
The style of the band at this point was heavily indebted to the first Pink Floyd album, The Piper at the Gates of Dawn, but filtered through their own color spectrum. The Pink Floyd connection went beyond mere sonic hat tipping, since Alice Cooper played host to Pink Floyd on the British band's first U.S. tour.
“We were the house band at the Cheetah for a period of time in ’67,” Smith recalls. “One of the perks was we could go see any of the bands playing there. Pink Floyd were there one week. I remember the first or second song they played, Syd went up to sing and boom! A spark came from the microphone and hit his lip. He just put his arms down to his sides, backed about a foot away from the stand and just stood there like a statue for the rest of the night. After the show, they came back to our house and partied with us all night long. Syd walked in like a zombie. He didn’t talk to anybody, he just stood there. He seemed a bit psychotic, and the mass quantities of LSD certainly didn’t help.”
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Those bastards didn't even take him to the hospital after getting electrocuted on stage.
Wow i never knew that, yet Waters was most insistent upon taking Syd to some "eminent" shrink who dutifully declared Syd an "incurable madman"so Waters could seize control and look like the "genius" who "saved" Pink Floyd.
Now i'm wondering if that defective mic was rigged to shock Syd on purpose? did it happen to anyone else?
@@wotdoesthisbuttondo you're reaching lmao. Roger didn't electrocute syd on stage💀
Agree, waters is a Sociopath@@wotdoesthisbuttondo
@@jolo8146 Yeah i know but apparently he had absolutely zero concern of sympathy for Syd making a weird show of smashing his bass in frustration then telling the manager Syd should be thrown out so he was already hostile by sounds of things.
I'm wondering if there was ever some unmentioned fundamental argument between Syd and Waters about the direction of the band with Waters walways wanting to turn Floyd into some kind of political protest band and Syd saying no then Waters started getting quietly aggressive towards him?
@@righthand7965 Yeah, i smell jealousy, i get the impression Waters was always hanging round Syd when they were young but not the other way round and it benefitted Waters far more than Syd at the end of the day.
When you develop schizophrenia in your early 20s you will see who your friends really are.
Great comment. But that extends to ANY condition that debilitates you. Mentally OR physically. In your good times your friends know you....in your bad times you know WHO your friends really are.
@@basilprabhakar7028 my sentiments exactly
Who needs an enemy when Waters is your friend..??
LMAO
When I was on Mars in the 1980's...."Dark Side of the Moon" was pretty big there. The two intelligent species on the planet both enjoyed it very much.
Robert, That was YOU I saw there??? :-)
Yep...good to hear from another "space" traveler..........
😂
What an amazing and extraordinary piece of highly technical work by the band. This is not just an album, but a journey through the ins and outs of life, going through all different feelings. For me, when I was only 12 years old when this album appeared, it was a start of a journey that changed my life for good.
The person who broke up the band says something not nice about another band member? How crazy is that
Dark Side of the Moon is a masterpiece and my favorite thing Pink Floyd ever did...but people overlook Meddle. Meddle was the beginning of the shift in Pink Floyd's music. This is where they became the band that dominated the 70s. It's almost like the demo for what Dark Side of the Moon was going to be, but it's kind of cheap to call it a demo, because it's such a well made album. Meddle is my third favorite Floyd album, behind Dark Side and Wish You Were Here.
Agreed, ;)
i think the true genius behind DSOM is Alan Parsons.
Piper At The Gates of Dawn is way better.
Meddle is amazing. Obscured by clouds will get you tripping too. Wots uh the deal
The masterpiece that made the rest of us question if we could be recording artists.
The bar was raised so high.
Syd was just in another dimension... I've been there too. You seem crazy to others
Me too!
You seem crazy to others because in this dimension you are
lsd makes paranoid to those that haven't tried it
😂😂
@@GuyMichaely 😂😂😂
"After Syd went crazy..." that sounded so unsensitive from Waters. Like they were childhood friends... not nice.
Roger cried some when they were recording 'Wish You Were Here' and oh yeah Syd showed up at the studio.
Maybe Syd was OK and everyone else was crazy. There's him living a serene life painting pictures in his mother's house and walking or cycling into town for his shopping, living off his royalties. In the mean time the others were amassing the millions that they can't spend in a lifetime, endlessly touring with increasingly massive roadshows, eventually falling out with each other, …….. whilst fixating on Syd.
@@paulkozar7454 As did Dave Gilmour.
@@geoffreynoonan4334 would hope so
@@paulkozar7454 Still they told him that the guitar on the album was finished and sent him on his merry way and he became a recluse until he died. For all the mourning on his part, Roger did absolutely nothing to help him out.
I was 9 years old when ,Dark Side of the Moon, was brand new. Hearing it for the first time , was a musical life changing experience. The sound quality, the cool stereo effects and soundbites , the haunting guitar solos and lyrics , and those mind blowing synthesizer sounds on an album cover with no name or title on it. it definitely opened up a whole new world of other music genres beyond the usual top 40 pop on AM radio I normally listened to.
I, too, first listened to it when I was nine.... And somehow didn't like it. It made me feel isolated in those "long" instrumentals I was subjected to, and the topics that were 'sparsely' sang of made me fear death already more than I did. Now, I've listened to the Floyd so much that I go into an album one minute and emerge the next, wondering where my 40-60 minutes had gone.
I am sorry, but Syd was Pink Floyd. I was just thinking about you James. I hope you are doing well. Crazy ! Glad you came over !
Yes, do'in well JM, as well as I could expect Psychic telepathy is still work'in at least!
@@JamesDeWeaver Your art is superb. I am hoping to buy some once I win the lottery ! 🤣 Will have to do that " mind thing " again soon !
Loved the bit with the flash cards and the answers from the roadies, it's little things like that make Dark Side all the better the little added content that makes it really stand out in the music industry. All great albums.
These comments are priceless
The true artists of the band were Roger (Syd) Barrett and Richard Wright. They were revolutionary with their sound for the latter part of the 60's. Listen how both sound on the newly remixed version of Paint Box. They were both experimenting musically and started concepts not only with their playing but recording as well. Pure Creativeness & Genius !!
How are "Grantchester Meadows," "One Of My Turns," and Dave's solos not artistry?
@@thebrazilianatlantis165 The first two could have been written by Syd, Gilmour's solos are amazing. Syd was more of an innovator on guitar and quite influential but lacked the technical chops of Dave.
@@tool_fighter "The first two could have been written by Syd" Oh in that case Roger was not an artist.
@@thebrazilianatlantis165 Waters was/is an artist . Never said he wasn’t
@@tool_fighter As for whether Syd could have written them, nah.
Awesome video, thanks for sharing!
+Starwitch Stone How are you doin? ;) lol
If only the band could have captured or guided Syd's madness to make beautifully insane records.
All this talk, it's much easier to understand. It's a great record to trip to, easy enough.
I listened to Floyd on acid and it was so insane
Marcia Hines Wow What a voice! I never paid much attenttion to her years ago but Ive only just recently played an Album of hers on vinyl. She sounds incredible,what a talent.
Red Rooster I think the vocals is somebody else, who came in and did it 2 takes in less than 24 hours.
Yes indeed. Pink Floyd. Dark Side of the Moon. & more. Timeless....perfect.
How could they kick their good friend out of the band he founded that's fucked up
And writing shit crazy songs like "where are you..>"
You got no clue of what you're talking about, otherwise you wouldn't have commented that.
It's true that they should have changed the name. That was so long ago, what's done is done. The Piper is a classic album. Momentous. One can only dream the rest, what could have been.
He had Schizophrenia. Performing in a band was pretty much impossible for him at that point.
D Thomp You clearly don't even know what you are talking about 😂 They didn't kick him out of the band, it was really for the best that Syd left because the way he was mentally at that point, it was hard for him to stay and perform as a band. After he left pink floyd, he did a couple solo albums then left the music world forever. He wasn't necessarily with them when they were performing.. of that makes sense. He would kind of forget what he was doing or just walk around stage or not play. They were all very close to Syd and I'm sure none of them wanted him to be out of the band, but it had to happen.
I'm pleased to see even some post-Barrett Floyd fans recognising Waters' egomania. It's one of the only options available to the mediocre to stop them hating themselves. He knows he tapped into the mediocre appreciation gene of the masses and he hates it. He hates it because he knows that Syd tapped into the much rarer thing that is the masses' appreciation for genius.
"He knows he... He hates it" Are you 14? Why don't you let Roger speak for himself.
when & if I get it mate it'll go up here on my channel!
Syd went home. Years before he died.
Number One Band, number One group! Rock on.
Everyone's raping on Waters. It's Gilmour! It's Gilmour that's such an ass-hole-hat. Yikes, Siam cat. Everywhere that he appears he's got to insignificantize Syd's relevancy and essentially the importance of the only PF album that ever mattered.
"insignificantize" "the only PF album that ever mattered" Hypocrite.
the us and them at 1:15 is taken from which live?
I don't know how anybody could listen to Piper at the Gates and then listen to Dark Side and come to the conclusion that Syd's music was superior in any way lmao
When you rather choose ‘the wall’ over the ‘dark side’ that’s when we pull the plug
I hate the way these documentaries interview people who are not even born yet when this album came out or are not a rock music fan. Just interview Pink Floyd we don't care what dorma Richardson of Harvard science department thinks
Claire Torry did the amazing vocal on Great Gig.
100%
Now I want to see the rest of the documentary
"After Syd went crazy...", really? How terrible.
@steven Brunton when Syd came to the studio in 1975, he had shaved his head and even eyebrows .he was brushing his teeth in the studio.. everyone thought he's a emi staff...he was unstable mentally...accept truth
@steven Brunton I've lived with schizophrenic dad my whole life..I know quite a bit about mental health issues...Syd lost his mind unfortunately and wasn't doing what he was supposed to do...he stopped singing and playing in the middle of concerts and wasn't coming for recordings etc...he was schizophrenic and I know that having a normal life with a person suffering from schizophrenia is impossible...the others in the band had to continue normally too..they had no choice but replace him...
@steven Brunton fact is that Syd couldn't continue his solo music career either proves that there was something wrong with his mental health...maybe he wasn't diagnosed coz he never went to doctor...there are stories of how he refused to have medical diagnosis...I know for a fact that schizophrenic persons get violent and never accept the fact that something's wrong with them....also Syd was a completely free man and could have written or spoken about what the band did to him to media easily ...but he never did that. So it means something was really wrong with him....
@steven Brunton you didn't know Syd either...so you can't claim to know the truth ...
@steven Brunton denial won't help you....Syd is a classic case of schizophrenia...David Gilmour was his childhood friend and David helped him to bring out syd's solo album...the other bandmates made sure that he got his royalties from his work with pink Floyd...
The album didn't age at all, the lyrics for 'Brain Damage' fit perfectly for Roger Waters in modern days, a complete lunatic.
Holy shit! Australians talking about a rock band that isn't ACDC!? Has hell frozen over?
They got a Spiderbait also
+VultureClone, its funny how Australia's biggest musical export was formed by European immigrants :-)
scottish and english together perish the thought lol
You should probably study geography and anthropology before calling some one ignorant, ALL original AC/DC band members were European imigrants who migrated to Australia in the 50's and 60's and also Brian Johnson and Cliff Williams are European whether you like it or not it's a fact and incase you dudn't realize it ALL white people are European, who's the MOFO now ?
Where can I find Syd's live performance?
The soulful singer on The great gig in the sky was not a black woman as this video implies. It was Clare H. Torry, a white British singer.
You have to be somewhat of a businessman to make it big in music. That's what killed music for Syd, while it did the opposite to Waters.
I don't believe he went crazy. He did turn into a very weird and eccentric introvert after their initial success. The fame and the fake music industry must've made him sick to his core.
The Syd acid schizophrenia story built the band's mystique even more, so business wise, it was a great story to go with. Syd got his royalty checks too, so there was less guilt about it.
I tend to agree w/ you on all the points you mention 100%!
I. Think you're into something,however he did become a drug addict.heroin and Quaaludes makes you unemployable.
Syd Barrett was suffering from related issues to schizophrenia, his mental illness was affected by his over indulgence with LSD (he did not do ludes nor heroin!). Syd was truly disgusted and overwhelmed by the fame he acquired in a short span of years which even lead to him returning to painting and creating two albums after his departure from Pink Floyd. The truth is Syd truly did lose his mental state because there were also a story of him during his later years involving a plumber that would occasionally come to fix his pipes since they were constantly damaged and the plumber knew he did them himself but he would just give a blank stare and always show him the damage without any explanation. Barrett was a fragile mind that was lost to his acid use since psychedelics is not for everyone and his abuse of them in turn was a double edge sword for him that would affect him till his last days on Earth... Syd was never in it for the money, he was in it for the music and the art behind it.
@@flashypixel33 Thanks for your well written and informative comment.
I was not aware of Syd's crooked "Plumber"which after reading about it now and knowing of Syd's condition doesn't surprise me as there always seems to be some nefarious characters in this world willing to take advantage of others unable to do so for themselves. #Peace
As someone who also suffers from mental issues and has done LSD I always tought the whole thing was too convenient to be actually true. I won't deny he may have suffered a breakdown but it was a good excuse to leave the music scene as a legend+ creating a mythos+ promoting the band and live the rest of his days in peace as the artist he always was. Being esquizophrenic is far from being like a mindless animal like most think.
Some people want to be artistic some just want to make money
this video is great if there's somebody who doesn't know pink Floyd this video should definitely intrigue them to wanna listen to them
Robbie Buck, haven't heard that voice in a while
Anybody got a source to the video at 0:43?
Syd barett realized Roger waters and all were crazy so he left those
I wish they would stop saying he sent crazy and that he was schizophrenic. He didn't and wasn't, listen to his sister. Jabbing a break down doesn't mean you are crazy
Damn to hear David say that at the end was great
I believe that Syd was mentally ill, but I think what made him go off the deep end was his addiction with psychedelic drugs. he should have gotten help but maybe the band should have looked after him better. they would have made a great 5 person band.
Syd would have been probably the best writer of music if he didn't take too much acid. He did do a lot of painting during his lifetime.
LSD is not addictive. People who lose it after taking LSD are predisposed to mental illness.
But being kicked out of the band also contributed to Roger (Syd) leaving music behind and focusing on his Art in Cambridge. A few comebacks in 1969 and 1970 with Madcap's and Barrett. But that was it. Burned out too soon. I believe Roger (Syd) had a lot more to contribute musically. His song Milky Way would have sounded great with Pink Floyd (sounds nice just on acoustic and vocals). Sometimes Fame has its draw backs...People taking advantage and mistreating Him !!!
He wasn't addicted to acid, and he didn't choose all the acid he endured either. People put acid in his coffee or in drinks at clubs and things, because they just assumed the star wanted some.
There were some jerks who would put drugs in his food and drinks, and some who locked him in a closet while he was tripping. A very mean thing to do, and that seriously worsened his condition. Perhaps if he didn't do those drugs he still would have been able to perform though he still had a mental condition. I do wish he could have stayed in the band but then again if he did we would never have gotten albums like the wall, animals, dark side of the moon etc. Roger (Syd) was a great man though and I think he had so much more to life but he just never got there
Syd Barrett's departure, mental decline, and their experience of that hard time helped the band clarify the line between madness and progressive mentality.
Great point! Cheers
Marciaaaa!
Oh my God!
It was'nt until I had a mental Illness that I finally understood it
Pink Floyd just don’t want to admit they where outshined by a so called “crazy person” rather then a true honest person who made real music for the real listener that did not need wailing vocals or gimmicks to sell albums, just his guitar and his imagination.
He did not write songs he was his songs they where a part of him and you can’t match that sorry but you can’t!!!
Dark Side was the album which was a commercial success and which made a major impact on its audience, yet to me this album seemed to be to “written” or “produced” and not created, it was like Punk Floyd gave up on creating and wrote this album for profit and promotion.
This album seemed to me as if the band was trying to separate from the edgy, genuine and unique sound which was Pink Floyd and to lose the stigma from Syd Barrett and the idea that there music was considered as schizophrenic music or to “out there” its like they tried to hide the real Pink Floyd to reach a bigger audience and to be more commercially friendly and to use modern influences to help sales.
This album to me is not as people say it is, it seemed as though they where trying to make a hit album not trying to make music from the heart.
I know I will get guff for saying this but it’s how I feel!!
The introduction of the soul vibe seemed to me as an attempt to capture its listeners through modern forms of entertainment and by using cultural influence to create a wider audience.
To me this is not Pink Floyd, Pink Floyd does not need to use gimmicks or to commercialize themselves, Pink Floyd does not need such stunts to be amazing they are such naturally.
I concur with your thoughts on this album as well. There was an obvious change post Barrett which I believe as do others in the musical research field like Mark Devlin who's written two tremendous books on this subject Musical Truth volume 1 & 2 in that they (The Pink Floyd) were "helped" in the change process with technology by EMI for one and greater insight and understanding of human behavior via The Tavistock Institute to as you said expand their audience and influence on MANY more people to be exposed to and possibly take LSD corrupting forever the minds of young people in many cases, speaking from personal experience I saw and witnessed around me. #Peace
@emmanuel de la cruz same
Rick Therrien The FIRST TRUE AND TRULY SUCCESSFUL STUDIO ALBUM. The beginning of so called studio rock " or CORPORATE ROCK. Why... because SOOO many different intricate things and obscure instruments and other stuff that went into the making and producing of the finished album. It simply could NOT be played live!! It NEVER would've sounded remotely the same. It's one of the reasons why CBGB'S artist and bands became famous. They took rock back to its roots. A drummer, a lead rythem guitar, a bass player, maybe another guitar... maybe cause' it wasn't really needed. And someone sung. Not about trippy or introspective shit. Just about, fucking, drinking, how bad ass they think they are or how nasty New York, or Philadelphia has become. THEY STREAMLINED THE CONCEPT OF BAND TO ITS BASICS AGAIN. BUT... Pink Floyd was HUGE THEN, and; for good reason.
I was maybe 8 when in1st heard it but was too young to grasp it. When I was in my 20s i was like oh...so that's what it was about. Actually i like wish you were here a slight but more than dark side.
wow the lies are real.
The truth is slowly beginning to emerge.
great album
dark side.. depressing.. the wall, thats a fantastic album. darkside < pulse
💎long live The Pink Floyd.💎
Syd and Peter? Maybe genius is just too heavy a load to bear?
The best music Floyd made was without Syd
FACT
no
Nah mate..
In a saucerful of secrets, they make it pretty clear that it was a joke to roger/the band to dose syd with large amounts of acid without him knowing. Syds brain couldnt take it so it shut down. Who's fault is it, again????
It was his roommates at the time who spiked his coffee with lsd, not his bandmates
when u think about it, if Gilmour never joined Pink Floyd, they would probably be stuck in the mud for years, David Gilmour saved the day.
LOVE THE FLOYD
Personally I find Dark Side of the Moon a commercial sellout.
I used to play early Floyd and the rest, in stages, many years ago to my then 15 year old son.
I didn't tell him my opinions about Dsotm.
He liked everything up to Dsotm. He even asked if it was the same band.
He said that Dsotm just reminded him of any 70s type rock or blues band.
OK
its a great album but its not even better than piper at the gates of dawn
Piper at The Gates of Dawn is one of the greatest albums of all time, Dark Side is an average and overrated prog-pop album.
Agree with Thomas Piper At The Gates Of Dawn is something otherworldly great for a acid trip. Dark Side Of The Moons not bad aswell haha,
The Oz's might call is whinging POM's but they sure like our music
parla Roger!
Click bait. Syd barely mentioned
Personally I think this is in the top 5 greatest rock albums along with axis:bold as love. Also the great gig in the sky is probably one of the most powerful instrumental tracks I personally have ever heard. It is one of the few albums I can turn on and just close my eyes and listen to
Simon Keel not even in the top 1000 albums.
Yes really good but personally I prefer early stuff like Relics. The Wall is certainly nothing to be sneezed at either for mine.
"Relics" is a compilation, just keep that in mind.
"...roadies and hangers-on" doing the voices on DSOTM? Argh. I hate these documentaries that don't research the topic...
No se xq m da la imprecion dq roger waters a pesar d ser tan talentoso ..es una persona inconforme consigo mismo y esta lleno d envidia hacia los demas integrantes d pink floyd ...tal vez m eqivoco y no es hasi pero esa imprecion tengo cada q veo un documental d ellos..!
Cruisin for a brusin
HOOOOOOOoooooooooo.......
What is all these ridiculous comments.. first Sid was obviously very intelligent as I think anyway what some are saying but the truth being that his mind was lost from LSD which many including " doctors " say it does open up your subconscious and your " reality.. " It also causes brain damage into your now " reality " I know a person as a very young man very talented musician.. drummer, singer and writer that enjoyed what LSD did to him decided to do everyday for a week.. and since probably 25 years needs someone to wipe him. Another did once and same position. You never know
Cosmic Bonzo
2 years ago
Some of the most creative people in HisTOry pushed the edge of insanity. It takes thinking outside the box and a genuine spirit to make true Art. Those kinda people feel alone because they are a rarity. Never being able to connect With others can drive you into isolation.
Just like President Trump today' :)
Yes, David, yes you did.
robin2012ism no he did not.
Dark side is really excellent but The Wall is little better. This is just my opinion...
Dark side all the way
Most of Dark Side is pretty ordinary compared to Animals.
Love wish you were here and dark side...never cared for the wall or animals.
If you are a Pink Floyd fan try checking out Live at Pompeii if you have not already indulged yourself. It's an epic performance to say the least.
The Wall is obviously more ambitious in scope, but Dark Side is a perfectly formed diamond.
Animals trumps them both, however, as the only truly progressive rock album Floyd ever made. And it's pissed off music, too. Which is always good.
Floyd aren't progressive rock.
They are. Way to show you don't know what progressive rock means.
I see Floyd as a psychedelic band that morphed into arena rock. You are, of course, free to disagree.
Without Syd they are prog-pop
It's the best album of all time...period!
they did better without syd than with him
Waters..
Floyd broke him by dumping Syd
The lyrics of Dark Side of the Moon have been of far less significance to the album's success than this video purports. The music is melodically soothing in spite of the lyrical content. When recalling DSOTM more people think of the guitars, vocals and melodies than its lyrical content. The same is true of the entire Pink Floyd library. If the lyrics were so important Roger Waters would have experienced greater success in his solo career. Not to be confused with a case of Gilmour vs. Waters, the guitar and vocals associated with Pink Floyd could even sell the awful material Gilmour's wife penned for On An Island.
Dark Sides "Us and Them" to me,is a very melodic tune with great lyrics. As far as writing, I think Roger is brilliant. As for as his vocals go...ehhhhhh lol
I know this comment is old, but I just wanted to say that I love the lyrics, especially in "Time."
EVERYTHING on this album (and the later ones... up to The Final Cut for me at least) is great and hits me deep, whether it's just the beat, Gilmour ' s guitar, or Rodger ' s lyrics, or all of it coming together ("Shine On..." on WYWH gets me everytime). I kinda think that it's awesome a band so dynamic existed, and am very sad that another won't be around in my lifetime... And I never even got to see this one play live even once :(
Yeah, Waters is overrated, I am a fan of a lot of his lyrics, but if you can't sit through an early Floyd instrumental, then I don't feel you can truly call yourself a Pink Floyd fan. Not to sound elitist, but I believe that it is very much worth it for people to explore their catalogue, as well as Syd's catalogue. Whether with Floyd or solo, Syd was the only member who could consistently with little effort deliver both good music and lyrics.
Fifty years from now it will be boring to people. They'll be listening to Piper.
The only person who dislikes it. Me.
boycott Pink Floyd
Eh, all post Syd Floyd sucked. It all sucked.
Most over rated Pink Floyd album ever, alongside The Wall. I most of the others though.
45 million people disagree with you but each to their own.
"The album has sold over 45 million copies. It is believed to be the second best-selling album ever after Thriller by Michael Jackson. It is widely considered one of the greatest albums of all time."
"Pink Floyd's acclaimed 1973 classic "Dark Side of the Moon" has spent an amazing 861 weeks riding the Billboard 200 album chart. That's over 16 (non-consecutive) years!"
@@secondchance6603 Yeah, but people also like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. Numbers alone do not mean something is good.
Also, I merely said it was over rated, which it is. There's far too much love for an album that doesn't hold my interest.
@@Metal-Possum "I merely said it was over rated," Which is why I said each to their own. "There's far too much love for an album that doesn't hold my interest." You don't like it so everybody that does is wrong, all about you huh.
Du bist verrückt... Just kidding. Eh, it's fine. I've listened to Dark Side so much that I feel nothing but a time jump when I listen to it now. Like, where did my forty minutes go? Can I get them back? Why didn't I feel anything? Drug resistance, I guess.
Sid had no talent. Or am I missing something?
paul may IMO he had talent, wrote pop lyrics early, but was progressing towards more, when he tragically took too much acid
Floyd Zepplin yeah. I knew the sid story. Just never saw the talent. Now the Floyd that used sid as their template for all of their stuff since, hell yeah!!
You are missing everything. Stay with your Shit Floyd.
Clueless, lol what music do you like. Yes you are missing something a brain haha.
You’re missing the fact that syds songs that Syd wrote got them their record contract. And got them their initial success. And all the girls wanted Syd and roger was jealous. Do you get it now? Roger waters would be a school teacher if it weren’t for Syd’s “talentless” songwriting.