Alsaahir guess don't include evil-turned townsfolk, correct? Meaning that there may be circumstances in which it's not the _entire_ evil team, like a turned townspoke, right? I mean, I guess unless no turning characters are on the script cuz they saw me coming🤣
@@voorp thanks. I usually listen to these more so than I watch them, so I haven't scoped out every token. And since it was literally a _creator of the game_ saying "the entire evil team" I felt I had no choice but to verify 🤣
@@micahnewby7964 tbf there's no way for a townsfolk to turn evil (outside of an amnesiac ig) on the script, so he wasn't really wrong in his wording, but yeah with say a mezepheles on the script you wouldn't have to (and shouldn't) guess the evil townsfolk
Chris did something wonderful with his nomination and accusation. Stayed "mad", while goading Sully to nominate him thus proving himself and Sullivan while still ostensibly mad, thereby saving them both (for a moment) and cementing them both as good. What an absolutely beautiful play.
@@Ari33sa I was so sure it was going to be a day one Alsaahir re-rack, I've never seen one of those! Lord of Typhon seems bloody hard to play, though, once the good team get a hint that you're all sat together.
@@justelliot4870 The patrons help grow the channel. It's only fair they get extras (and botc is a HIGH demand extra, it brings in a lot of the patrons)
@@justelliot4870 Can’t really blame them, though. Ad revenue is now so low that you can’t really keep making content for a professional multi-person channel like this without either in-video sponsorships, crowdfunding or Patreon paywalls. They could have had them available on the channel with a surf shark ad or something, of course.
@@joshuapray well the first day blair already had john just with a social read and ken managed to find the exact team composition so yeah. If Ben poisoned the clockmaker maybe the game would have been different.
@@shiniselune399 To be fair, Blair almost always zones in on someone with their social read on Day 1 and then tunnels on them for the whole game, even though their social reads are only occasionally right. Obvs, just by chance, they're going to find an actual evil once in a while but I've seen them be just as doggedly sure about somebody who's not evil too many times to trust that their "social read" is much more effective than just randomly guessing. Ken, on the other hand, is consistently a beast at this game. I honestly don't know how he does it. I was surprised when he didn't follow through on the Alsashir guess he said he was going to make. I'm glad he didn't, tbh, bc the video would've ended even earlier (unless they reracked and played another one immediately) and it was already too short. I guess Steven called it at the beginning though: Lord of Typhon games can easily turn out to be a dud. Fun to get to see a Riot game though. I do agree that Ben poisoning the Clockmaker might have been a better move than poisoning the Shugenja though. It could've introduced doubt that it was a Lord of Typhon game at all and maybe drawn some people away from looking for blocks of four, especially since there was a moment when the good team were starting to consider a Yaggababble world. Meanwhile, even a sober and poison-free Shugenja's info is kind of mid, imo. Even Steven seemed a little surprised that Ben chose to Widow poison Holly.
@@joshuapray I think it's relatively well balanced. Even when the good team figures it out early they aren't guaranteed a win depending on evil roles, and almost all players on the good team aren't good enough to put the pieces together this quickly. The script changes things significantly re balance and you can't account for the smart players like ken not getting a role which helps them unravel things. The bad players need to work on their bluffs because they're getting read socially more often than via game mechanics
@@joshuapray I don't think that's true, based on all the percentages I have seen it seems very well balanced for a social deduction game. I think you're just going off of memory and feel rather than actually looking at any data about win rates.
Ken had the right world on day 1 but didn't get to guess with the virgin, Tilly guessed it on day 2. Amazing work by the good team. I think the Lord of Typhon is a pretty weak demon. You can go by collective vibes and quickly identify demon candidates.
@@whocares2277I think it could be interesting as a first time demon to a large group. I think it has a place, but with this set up of these players it was an uphill battle for evil
Giving Ben a character that can see the grimoire on his first time playing with this group is satisfyingly fitting goven he has been the story teller all the way up to this point.
It's a play that demonstrates a decent amount of crossover from his improv talents. Encouraging behaviours from his scene partner whilst not breaking character himself.
@@diamondbandit8385 To be fair, it _did_ have different results. He neutralized the Amnesiac ability before it could kill him. What got him instead was that doing that looked incredibly evil... and that Jon would probably counter-nominate whoever nominated him even if it didn't.
@@Krixwell Good point, it didn't have the same results, but still Chris could have waited for someone else to nominate first to see if the power was only if Riot nominated or anyone. What I mean is I don't think the ability is inherently unfair, I think the execution by the evil team was more of the problem.
I was surprised no one picked up on Jon's bad Savant information - he was saying he was told evil was on the other side, and that the Outsider was sat next to two townsfolk, and he was treating both of those as true. No one called him on it.
i noticed too, but you have to consider he only gave his fake information in his defense and in no private chats, so they probably misheard his information as just claiming the evil team was on the other bench. if they were paying attention to his defense though it shouldve been a unanimous vote to put him on the block. " My savant information points to (fake info 1) being true and also (fake info 2) being true"
@@q-tuber7034 I honestly think he should have stayed with Zealot. The double claim with Laurie would have confused other players and made them think none of them could be the demon, even less a minion and their demon. Then if Laurie got on the block he would have claimed Goblin and would have made Jon appear good. Of course it could have gone wrong, but I though it could be a good play
42:00 Jon Gracey casually buiding a world in which it's a Lord of Typhon game, and proving he's on the evil team is not the worst play in NRB, but he's just not Sully bluffing at the clockmaker while actually being the demon.
bluffing as the clockmaker as a demon is a perfectly decent play, except in this particular group, where they have the meta of killing good characters on the first day. Regardless, he got to the final day, if I remember correctly, so it did work!
@@0rbeezI absolutely second this!!! I want Dropout BoTC NRB crossover immediately! I can absolutely see Brennan in a Laurie situation where he figures it out but no one listens driving him mad. Or he’d kill it on the evil team.
Been waiting for Daddy Ben to play since the olden times of Zoom Clocktower! Immediately forgot his grimoire info, did not disappoint! If we get another season, it'd be cool to see Ben play some more and maybe some of the players who run games (Jon, Laurie, etc.) take over.
Ben plays a lot on the Blood on the Clocktower channel. Many of my favorite videos on there are the "Player Perspective" vids where Ben plays while someone else (Aggie, e.g.) is the ST. But if you mean you'd like to see him play more on NRB specifically, I agree. I'd love to see him get to play in a game here that lasts a little longer bc both his role and the evil team were done way too quickly.
@@johnplaysgames3120 I agree with everything you said! I often watch game on the TPI channel,and the player perspective are the ones I enjoyed the most. It was kinda disappointing that the one game he joined here lasted so little, I hope he joins another one soon.
59:40 UGH seeing Ben throw his hand up at the last second to try to tie the vote and it not being counted broke my heart. really wanted to see the game continue. and if the virgin didn't get nominated on the first round Ken would've 100% guessed all the evil players CRAZY!!!
He was totally trying to force the tie, but it was classy of him not to make a big deal out of the mistake. Imagine if Jon or Dom had tried to use a clutch ghost vote like that and it didn't get counted. All hell would have broken loose.
The Grimoire is another fantastic channel full of experienced players Chris' Noobs channel is great cause the friend group starts as noobs learning together and ends up with its own cast of heavy hitters and chaos makers. You see some of them get real good and grow as players
Really hoping season 3 is happening, you guys always do a fenomenal job. Set, cast, script choices, video edition... everything is done with such care and taste. Thank you for sharing the game with us. Now let's start the season 1 rewatch 🍿
It’s crazy how Ben basically figured out all the roles before the first day’s nominations started. I’m half convinced he’d have one the game night one if he was good.
Seriously great plays this game, from both sides. **Slightly spoilery** but get outta the comments then! It's a shame the game was so short, but it goes to show just how good at this most of these people have gotten over the years. And seeing Steven's predictions and insights into the players and characters was a delight.
I feel like just having Ken exist on the good team makes Evil start at a huge disadvantage. He's so good at calling social aspects on top of having perfect knowledge of the mechanics of the game in a way that nobody else is even close to doing its terrifying for any Evil team. I'd have to go back and look but has there been any time where he puts the Demon on the block and it isn't game over.
If I remember correctly, Ken is a professional poker player, so it makes sense he has not only the correct social reads but also the ability to see the whole game on a different level
...oddly appropriate that I get an ad about piglets while watching No Rolls Barred! That riot game was awesome, that looks like so much fun - while I love the long and intricate plays for a regular game of Blood on the Clocktower, that rapid fire format for the rio was just brilliant to watch. Well done everyone, including the crew, for putting together an amazing series. I can't wait to see another season of Blood on the Clocktower.
It took me until the second watch to realise this must have been filmed just after (or at least the same day) as the "I'm cool lawyer" "you go girl" bit, which is why "I'm cool defendant" "oh yes you are" seemed so familiar lol.
Pretty high, actually. Once Lord of Typhon is pulled, the Storytellers choose which players are which minions, so I can totally see Tom and Steven doing it on purpose.
@@Benusr Don't forget Typhon adds a minion. Because of the line rule, he just had to be within 2 spaces of a Demon, which had an exactly 40% chance of happening (Jon, Laurie, Chris, Holly). Basically a coin flip.
I think Ken’s at the point now where he’d rather see a good game than get a quick win. Similar to how Mara Joy will often suspect a play but let in run if it’s fun or if it’s a new player.
@@AshlingScott why would he rush into using his ability when he had no way of knowing a virgin was going to proc? Chris nominated immediately and pushed Sully as a double-claim. Most of the time that's going to mean one of them is evil and the fringe world of "harpy mad virgin who wants to bait a counter-nom" is much less likely and expecting a player to account for that is unrealistic. Add that to the script having legion, lord of typhon and more "normal" evil team compositions of yag/pukka and it's wasteful to throw away a guess on a typhon world when you have information contradicting what your guess would be and have no reason to assume it's a typhon game yet
At the end of the Riot game, Chris was the first to nominate, so shouldn't he have died from the Amnesiac power? No waiiiit, Chris nominated Jon, so Jon's power deactivates so Chris wouldn't die. Man, I would have flubbed that.
Well, to be fair. It could have been ruled either way. Don't think there was a 'correct way' to run it. It just came down to how he interprets the Amnesiac ability and whether it gets priority over the nomination.
@@DespOIcito Yes, it could have. Literally just rule it that (as part of the amnesiac ability) the Amnesiac takes priority over Riot. Amne is nominated --> Riot dies immediately --> Amne dies to Riot. Perfectly within the rules.
When the day 2 voting started and I saw how far we were into the video, I got worried. I don't really care which team wins, but I do really enjoy games that make it to a final 3. Seeing the mental summersaults that people go through trying to choose between two trusted individuals is fun to watch.
I was there for the first of 2 shows. As Jon said it was an improv show, and from what I saw I can 100% confirm there was nothing written 😂😂 it was somewhat chaotic, somewhat just them figuring it out as they went along
That was a quick one, but I really enjoyed it. Felt like appropriately unhinged and chaotic for a nice, solid wrap-up for whole season, lovely work, thank you, people 👍
I'm really glad we finally got a riot script with this crowd! It's a different story and they absolutely took to it. Incredible work from all the cast, the hosts, and all the crew! Can't wait for the next series
SPOILERS: . . . . When I saw Jon pull the demon on a script with a Flowergirl, I expected it to go badly. When he then decided to bluff as the famously difficult-to-bluff Savant, I said 'Oh Jon...' out loud - alone in my office. Bless his cotton socks, but Jon is so far out of his depth with these kinds of scripts, it's almost uncomfortable. The season overall was great, though. One dull game at the end does not change that.
@@Luciusem He had a wide field of bluffs to pick from, especially after talking to his widow. Going Savant and bluffing self-incriminating info was a terrible choice. Jon really should get more experience before being put in such games. Although he must have played well over 100 games by now, he still has difficulties grasping some rules and basic concepts. I like how he was incorporated on the TPI stream: As part of a rev pair. The fabled was introduced exactly for such cases, as written on its wiki page.
@@bufftuckerit wasn’t shown but I think Laurie picked Zealot out of the bag which is why he was claiming it. He also did that before speaking to the Widow or to Jon
@@bacontheshoe it wasn’t shown but I think Laurie picked Zealot out of the bag which is why he was claiming it. He also did that before speaking to the Widow or to Jon
The game was unfortunate ruined for evil by ending up with a virgin and another good on diagonally opposite end positions. Bad luck for evil this time - still entertaining! Season 3 pretty pretty please
I think the key of Lord of Typhon is you need to be very careful with touching the good players on either side with most evil abilities until you can convince the town that it's not a Lord of Typhon game. You need them alive to allow you to shift the line one way or the other. In this case I think the town had stopped thinking it was Lord of Typhon (only Jon was continuing to harp on about it which made him look more evil). He also needed to be better with the Savant information. You need 2 true things but one of them that looks false based on all information town has, or 2 false but where one of them looks true based on all information town has. Last night at least one player was affected by madness, and a sober and healthy chef would have gotten a 3 (for the Lord of Typhon line) would be a good example of what he should have said. Both are true, one of them that town already believes (the Harpy Madness), the other they are therefore likely to believe is false (no Lord of Typhon) and have no way to prove anyway and those words are literally copies of lines they have heard in previous games from Daddy Ben. Similarly once Daddy Ben was dead, at least one player is poisoned (they believe a widow is in play so this is true, but the widow is actually dead so it's false), a sober and healthy Oracle would have gotten a one last night (this further pushes the world view the widow isn't dead yet as that would make both true). Again text book examples of Savant information.
It's not quite as produced as NRB's episodes, but you can see Ben play quite a lot on the Blood on the Clocktower channel. Look for the "Player Perspective" videos and you'll see Ben playing, usually with Aggie, Edd, Dakota/Avery, or Patters handling ST duties. It's def fun to see Ben on the other side of the Grimoire.
It's more powerful then it came off in this vid. The fact both sides of the evil group got mechanically confirmed to be good on the very first day was MASSIVE information (It was literally impossible for any script trickery to have caused that outcome). Boxing in the living good vs the evil team means that all of the good players who know they themselves are good, have every reason to nominate a middle player from the other side, and watch the voting patterns of the other side. If they are not reading suspicious, then you can conclude 1.) they are amazing actors and double bluffing 2.) you didn't pick the demon, you picked their minion, 3.) it's a different demon. Without boxing them in, if you find 1 minion is sus, you still need to figure out if it's even the demon in play, and where that sus player is in the lineup. This is all information you will struggle to gather in the first few days. The first few days in which the evil players can quickly gain a voting majority.
Oh this is great already. Steven as a ST, and Ben gets to play? Yay. Also highly approve of that opening by Tom. Appropriately epic AND a pun. Love that. The best thing about Tilly turning her hat was that the way she ducked down left exactly her hat plainly in view as she turned it around. Though, the whole Dom-Tilly nomination was super fun. Also really appreciate the visualization of seats being shuffled there.
Mechanically confirming two players as good splitting the group into literal bench vs bench was MASSIVE information in combination with the meta gaming of "a new demon is on the script, i know I'm good, thus the middle two over there has a demon if the most probable demon is in play" at the very worst you can just kill one for science. the fact that the entire other bench consistently was voting for your side, and keeps trying to protect the member on the block only helps confirm the demon.
Chris played this so, so well, I'm so impressed how he navigated both his role and the position he was put in to not only set up everyone on his team getting good information and role confirmations w/o offing a townsfolk with info gathering potential left, but also to lay the breadcrumbs for Holly to sus out the existence of the Harpy and all that that implied about the game state. Amazing! I can't believe Blair and Ken called it on the first round, if only Ken had gotten the guess in day 1 it may have been a VERY short round of play, here.
Would have loved to see the whole evil team claim goblin as soon as they were zeroed in on. Everyone vote together so the flower girl can't pin down the demon and make good team make some risky choices lol. Chris made maybe the greatest play I've seen in BoTC, hats off to you man!
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Alsaahir guess don't include evil-turned townsfolk, correct? Meaning that there may be circumstances in which it's not the _entire_ evil team, like a turned townspoke, right? I mean, I guess unless no turning characters are on the script cuz they saw me coming🤣
@@micahnewby7964 "Once per day, if you publicly guess which players are Minion(s) and which are Demon(s), good wins." Is how it's officially worded.
@@voorp thanks. I usually listen to these more so than I watch them, so I haven't scoped out every token. And since it was literally a _creator of the game_ saying "the entire evil team" I felt I had no choice but to verify 🤣
@@micahnewby7964 tbf there's no way for a townsfolk to turn evil (outside of an amnesiac ig) on the script, so he wasn't really wrong in his wording, but yeah with say a mezepheles on the script you wouldn't have to (and shouldn't) guess the evil townsfolk
Well, I've always wondered but never gotten around to asking if an amnesiac's ability fires if the amnesiac has no idea what their ability is 🤣
Chris did something wonderful with his nomination and accusation. Stayed "mad", while goading Sully to nominate him thus proving himself and Sullivan while still ostensibly mad, thereby saving them both (for a moment) and cementing them both as good. What an absolutely beautiful play.
Absolutely disgusting, in the most positive way
great play. If only they'd waited a moment for Ken to make his guess and win the game. I was so hoping for a day one Aljasir win.
The faces on team evil are absolutley hilarious at 32:48. Cannot believe the outplay
@@Ari33sa I was so sure it was going to be a day one Alsaahir re-rack, I've never seen one of those! Lord of Typhon seems bloody hard to play, though, once the good team get a hint that you're all sat together.
I would have poisoned the clockmaker if I was the widow. The was the best role to throw it off of a Typhon game.
Laurie: I'm THE really fun role!
Blair: Goblin?
Damn, she knows him too well.
to be fair, Goblin is the most fun character in the game
We need Season 3 for next week
If only right lol.
High value production in person with Ben is great. In the meantime I would eat up as many episodes of NRB plays BotC online as they would serve up.
@@MrEuklides It's such a shame they only do those on Patreon, honestly. I'm actually a bit annoyed they decided to put them behind a paywall
@@justelliot4870 The patrons help grow the channel. It's only fair they get extras (and botc is a HIGH demand extra, it brings in a lot of the patrons)
@@justelliot4870 Can’t really blame them, though. Ad revenue is now so low that you can’t really keep making content for a professional multi-person channel like this without either in-video sponsorships, crowdfunding or Patreon paywalls. They could have had them available on the channel with a surf shark ad or something, of course.
The speed that Ken & Blair figured it out - this video was almost a TH-cam Short.
The endless advantages for the 'good' team are kind of wearing on me. It doesn't take much to have it figured out in a turn or two.
@@joshuapray well the first day blair already had john just with a social read and ken managed to find the exact team composition so yeah. If Ben poisoned the clockmaker maybe the game would have been different.
@@shiniselune399 To be fair, Blair almost always zones in on someone with their social read on Day 1 and then tunnels on them for the whole game, even though their social reads are only occasionally right. Obvs, just by chance, they're going to find an actual evil once in a while but I've seen them be just as doggedly sure about somebody who's not evil too many times to trust that their "social read" is much more effective than just randomly guessing.
Ken, on the other hand, is consistently a beast at this game. I honestly don't know how he does it. I was surprised when he didn't follow through on the Alsashir guess he said he was going to make. I'm glad he didn't, tbh, bc the video would've ended even earlier (unless they reracked and played another one immediately) and it was already too short. I guess Steven called it at the beginning though: Lord of Typhon games can easily turn out to be a dud. Fun to get to see a Riot game though.
I do agree that Ben poisoning the Clockmaker might have been a better move than poisoning the Shugenja though. It could've introduced doubt that it was a Lord of Typhon game at all and maybe drawn some people away from looking for blocks of four, especially since there was a moment when the good team were starting to consider a Yaggababble world. Meanwhile, even a sober and poison-free Shugenja's info is kind of mid, imo. Even Steven seemed a little surprised that Ben chose to Widow poison Holly.
@@joshuapray I think it's relatively well balanced. Even when the good team figures it out early they aren't guaranteed a win depending on evil roles, and almost all players on the good team aren't good enough to put the pieces together this quickly. The script changes things significantly re balance and you can't account for the smart players like ken not getting a role which helps them unravel things. The bad players need to work on their bluffs because they're getting read socially more often than via game mechanics
@@joshuapray I don't think that's true, based on all the percentages I have seen it seems very well balanced for a social deduction game. I think you're just going off of memory and feel rather than actually looking at any data about win rates.
After what Ken said on Day 1, I was sure we would get 2 games in this video.
yeah that was wild! 28:27
me too!
I was really waiting for a jump cut to Laurie freaking out
Ken had the right world on day 1 but didn't get to guess with the virgin, Tilly guessed it on day 2. Amazing work by the good team.
I think the Lord of Typhon is a pretty weak demon. You can go by collective vibes and quickly identify demon candidates.
@@whocares2277I think it could be interesting as a first time demon to a large group. I think it has a place, but with this set up of these players it was an uphill battle for evil
Giving Ben a character that can see the grimoire on his first time playing with this group is satisfyingly fitting goven he has been the story teller all the way up to this point.
except for when he was a fisherman that one time
VERY clever opening gambit from Chris. Such a smooth threading of that needle
Best handling of harpy madness I've ever seen, just because of the circumstances. "Yeah, you can counter nominate me if you want."
It's a play that demonstrates a decent amount of crossover from his improv talents. Encouraging behaviours from his scene partner whilst not breaking character himself.
Please bring this back for a Season 3 I will back it on Kickstarter for sure
I love the dramatic irony of "Hey widow, I think the widow poisoned me"
Ungrateful Bastard is my favourite Clocktower character
It's a character which believes they are drunk, but is actually sober and healthy the whole game.
(Jon with Holly's Philosopher)
"Ungrateful Bastard?!?! You didn't give me ANYTHING!!!"
@@Dr.Death8520 Oh God, don't remind me 😅
That's the character release for next series
You are mad your ability sucks, or you might die.
That fact that Blair Shepperd went 7/7 this series is just insane. Poor Laurie, got absolutely screwed over in that last game :(
That riot game was a joke, that amnesiac ability was way too crippling for the evil team imo
@@Lucarioguild7I actually loved it. It was pure chaos and a lovely little bonus
@Lucarioguild7 Tbf Chris still nominated first despite watching Steven die, only an idiot does the same thing twice expecting different results
@@diamondbandit8385 To be fair, it _did_ have different results. He neutralized the Amnesiac ability before it could kill him. What got him instead was that doing that looked incredibly evil... and that Jon would probably counter-nominate whoever nominated him even if it didn't.
@@Krixwell Good point, it didn't have the same results, but still Chris could have waited for someone else to nominate first to see if the power was only if Riot nominated or anyone. What I mean is I don't think the ability is inherently unfair, I think the execution by the evil team was more of the problem.
I was surprised no one picked up on Jon's bad Savant information - he was saying he was told evil was on the other side, and that the Outsider was sat next to two townsfolk, and he was treating both of those as true. No one called him on it.
i noticed too, but you have to consider he only gave his fake information in his defense and in no private chats, so they probably misheard his information as just claiming the evil team was on the other bench.
if they were paying attention to his defense though it shouldve been a unanimous vote to put him on the block.
" My savant information points to (fake info 1) being true and also (fake info 2) being true"
A better strategy for flustered Jon would have been bluffing Amne: more time to think, and even possible to ride out the game with all colds
@@q-tuber7034 I honestly think he should have stayed with Zealot. The double claim with Laurie would have confused other players and made them think none of them could be the demon, even less a minion and their demon. Then if Laurie got on the block he would have claimed Goblin and would have made Jon appear good. Of course it could have gone wrong, but I though it could be a good play
@@sofiipote7 that's what I was thinking, though it's super risky
Thought that as well @@sofiipote7
Laurie, you're a winner in our hearts.
"horror-ologist" is an underrated joke
(Horology is the study of clocks)
Thank you for this, I was so confused 😂
42:00 Jon Gracey casually buiding a world in which it's a Lord of Typhon game, and proving he's on the evil team is not the worst play in NRB, but he's just not Sully bluffing at the clockmaker while actually being the demon.
bluffing as the clockmaker as a demon is a perfectly decent play, except in this particular group, where they have the meta of killing good characters on the first day. Regardless, he got to the final day, if I remember correctly, so it did work!
Without spoiling too much, I'm just going to say that Virgin play was _amazing._
goblin and lord of typhon both in the middle of the line goes kinda crazy
Yea! All that was missing was a Scarlett Woman at the end of the line
Haven't even got into the game, but Ben finally joining as a player is really going to make this one special
If you want to see him play a lot go to the Blood on the Clocktower channel.
Now knowing that the NRB team has crossed ways with folks on Dropout, I'm screaming for more BoTC content after this. Take my money!
I would love love LOVE to see Brennan on BoTC!!!
@@0rbeezI absolutely second this!!! I want Dropout BoTC NRB crossover immediately! I can absolutely see Brennan in a Laurie situation where he figures it out but no one listens driving him mad. Or he’d kill it on the evil team.
The credits being all bums was a subtle touch
I took one glance over there then had to do a double take, brilliant
can't believe you guys got scarlett johansson for this one
don’t make me cry again dude😭
😂😂😂
Been waiting for Daddy Ben to play since the olden times of Zoom Clocktower! Immediately forgot his grimoire info, did not disappoint!
If we get another season, it'd be cool to see Ben play some more and maybe some of the players who run games (Jon, Laurie, etc.) take over.
Ben plays a lot on the Blood on the Clocktower channel. Many of my favorite videos on there are the "Player Perspective" vids where Ben plays while someone else (Aggie, e.g.) is the ST. But if you mean you'd like to see him play more on NRB specifically, I agree. I'd love to see him get to play in a game here that lasts a little longer bc both his role and the evil team were done way too quickly.
@@johnplaysgames3120 I agree with everything you said! I often watch game on the TPI channel,and the player perspective are the ones I enjoyed the most. It was kinda disappointing that the one game he joined here lasted so little, I hope he joins another one soon.
I agree totally. Would love to see Tom and Laurie run together. It would be absolutely hammy. And I am here for it.
Thank you all so much for this amazing journey!! You all are the best
59:40 UGH seeing Ben throw his hand up at the last second to try to tie the vote and it not being counted broke my heart. really wanted to see the game continue. and if the virgin didn't get nominated on the first round Ken would've 100% guessed all the evil players CRAZY!!!
I wondered why Ben wouldn't use his ghost vote! Even I didn't see his hand go up the first time, but this explains it, thank you!
He was totally trying to force the tie, but it was classy of him not to make a big deal out of the mistake. Imagine if Jon or Dom had tried to use a clutch ghost vote like that and it didn't get counted. All hell would have broken loose.
I'm always looking forward to the surprises each episode, but I was blindsided when Daddy Ben was bumped to the player's seat, awesome!
"like sheep ordered to make bread: ewe, kneed this!" Dammit Tom, that's so bad it's good...
I was wondering where the sheep part came in on that pun. Flew right over my head.
Took me a second, then when I got it I just sighed and told it to my brother to the same reaction
I swear the word ewe was only created to make puns
always a shame to see a season finale. been a great series so far
"...ewe knead this." I consider myself a punster, but ffs Tom, that was painful 😅
For everyone asking for more clocktower content; i can really recommend noobs on the gooftower also some very fun games with some familiar faces :)
and also the patreon
The Grimoire is another fantastic channel full of experienced players
Chris' Noobs channel is great cause the friend group starts as noobs learning together and ends up with its own cast of heavy hitters and chaos makers. You see some of them get real good and grow as players
and TPI, of course
Really hoping season 3 is happening, you guys always do a fenomenal job. Set, cast, script choices, video edition... everything is done with such care and taste. Thank you for sharing the game with us.
Now let's start the season 1 rewatch 🍿
It’s crazy how Ben basically figured out all the roles before the first day’s nominations started. I’m half convinced he’d have one the game night one if he was good.
MORE MORE MORE! PLEASE!! Great series again. Thank You. Much Love
Seriously great plays this game, from both sides.
**Slightly spoilery** but get outta the comments then!
It's a shame the game was so short, but it goes to show just how good at this most of these people have gotten over the years.
And seeing Steven's predictions and insights into the players and characters was a delight.
Ben playing with the NRB crew is peak content
I feel like just having Ken exist on the good team makes Evil start at a huge disadvantage. He's so good at calling social aspects on top of having perfect knowledge of the mechanics of the game in a way that nobody else is even close to doing its terrifying for any Evil team. I'd have to go back and look but has there been any time where he puts the Demon on the block and it isn't game over.
If I remember correctly, Ken is a professional poker player, so it makes sense he has not only the correct social reads but also the ability to see the whole game on a different level
@@sofiipote7 Ken is utterly terrifying
Even in games without lying I still can't trust him... he's just so conniving xD
@@nicreven he's always lying, even when he's not lol
Can't wait to add "Honourary Bum on the Clocktower" to my CV
"It's not a slur, I own it."
...oddly appropriate that I get an ad about piglets while watching No Rolls Barred!
That riot game was awesome, that looks like so much fun - while I love the long and intricate plays for a regular game of Blood on the Clocktower, that rapid fire format for the rio was just brilliant to watch.
Well done everyone, including the crew, for putting together an amazing series. I can't wait to see another season of Blood on the Clocktower.
Yay, awesome script to end the season on! Looking forward to season 3!
It's been a hell of a season and it comes in a full circle with Tilly's fantastic fit again.
It took me until the second watch to realise this must have been filmed just after (or at least the same day) as the "I'm cool lawyer" "you go girl" bit, which is why "I'm cool defendant" "oh yes you are" seemed so familiar lol.
Nice to see the Bums behind it in the credits! ❤
Thank you Editor James Bumper for that bumtastic ending
“I nominate Ben”-Tilly taken over by the spirit of Nicky
I'd love a crossover between NRB and regulars on the TPI channel
Omg omg omg. It's happening. I found this Channel recently and binged the entire series. This is the first video I get to see as it comes out.
Thank you to cast, crew and all the backers for making this possible. It was a blast and I hope we get future seasons.
I haven't seen Laurie this angry since he tried to lie about getting through the Tempting Tunnel.
I don’t get the reference but I want to know where to see this.
@@CEJRAID the 13 beavers episode of board game club
What a way to finish the series. These were such fun videos to watch!
Even when Ben isn't supposed to see the Grim, he still gets to see the Grim what are the Goddamn odds?? 😂😂😂
Pretty high, actually. Once Lord of Typhon is pulled, the Storytellers choose which players are which minions, so I can totally see Tom and Steven doing it on purpose.
@@winnerwood Even then the Lord of Typhon sti had to be close enough to be considered neighbouring him... Funny as hell tho!
@@Benusr Don't forget Typhon adds a minion. Because of the line rule, he just had to be within 2 spaces of a Demon, which had an exactly 40% chance of happening (Jon, Laurie, Chris, Holly). Basically a coin flip.
I hope we get a 3rd series!
Ken proposing the correct evil team on Day1 and then just NOT USING HIS ABILITY is tilting me off the planet...
He probably would have if the night didn't end early with the virgin nomination
@@amarkalibad2571 I expect a player of Ken's caliber to see Virgin and Harpy on the script and use his ability in a timely fashion, to be honest
@@AshlingScott They're just having fun, and he won anyway. No need to take everything so seriously.
I think Ken’s at the point now where he’d rather see a good game than get a quick win. Similar to how Mara Joy will often suspect a play but let in run if it’s fun or if it’s a new player.
@@AshlingScott why would he rush into using his ability when he had no way of knowing a virgin was going to proc? Chris nominated immediately and pushed Sully as a double-claim. Most of the time that's going to mean one of them is evil and the fringe world of "harpy mad virgin who wants to bait a counter-nom" is much less likely and expecting a player to account for that is unrealistic. Add that to the script having legion, lord of typhon and more "normal" evil team compositions of yag/pukka and it's wasteful to throw away a guess on a typhon world when you have information contradicting what your guess would be and have no reason to assume it's a typhon game yet
Oh hey, another episode of "Laurie gets dunked on".
Lovely jubbly.
"Horror-ologist" of the Clocktower!
Simply brilliant. Slow-clap 👏👏👏
This is probably the most perfect evil team i could think of, omg
So sad it’s over already. I love these videos and they are the best Blood on the Clocktower to watch.
I just love Blood on the Clocktower Live. I have money. Please make season 3, I will support it.
At the end of the Riot game, Chris was the first to nominate, so shouldn't he have died from the Amnesiac power? No waiiiit, Chris nominated Jon, so Jon's power deactivates so Chris wouldn't die. Man, I would have flubbed that.
Yeah great storytelling there to think ahead to that situation and keep the quick fire nominations going
Damn, I was questioning that. That answers it
Well, to be fair. It could have been ruled either way. Don't think there was a 'correct way' to run it. It just came down to how he interprets the Amnesiac ability and whether it gets priority over the nomination.
@@wolviller111 it couldn't have been ruled either way, the amnesiac dies and no longer has an ability.
@@DespOIcito Yes, it could have. Literally just rule it that (as part of the amnesiac ability) the Amnesiac takes priority over Riot.
Amne is nominated --> Riot dies immediately --> Amne dies to Riot.
Perfectly within the rules.
The editing of this episode is so fire! I would love more of this type for season 3.
Another amazing season, can’t get enough of the in person clock tower games, please start a kickstarter for another season soon!
absolutely losing it over the idea of a three-player riot team consisting of party animals and dancelords chris and laurie, and then Cool Guy Steve.
When the day 2 voting started and I saw how far we were into the video, I got worried. I don't really care which team wins, but I do really enjoy games that make it to a final 3. Seeing the mental summersaults that people go through trying to choose between two trusted individuals is fun to watch.
I saw a poster for Grace and Gracey at this years Fringe, so apparently they have written it.
I was there for the first of 2 shows.
As Jon said it was an improv show, and from what I saw I can 100% confirm there was nothing written 😂😂 it was somewhat chaotic, somewhat just them figuring it out as they went along
@@egjoker3624But Chris writes all his improv, so… 🤷🏻
Laurie: Im a really fun role!
Blair: Goblin?
Laurie: nO the other fun role haha😅
LMAO
I always appreciate the random banter @ the end that we never hear in game 😅
That was a quick one, but I really enjoyed it. Felt like appropriately unhinged and chaotic for a nice, solid wrap-up for whole season, lovely work, thank you, people 👍
Found this series while having Chemo, made the while thing a bit more bearable, thank you to the entire cast and loved the chaos of Laurie and Ken!
I can't believe Flower Girl and Goblin getting along, it's like a fairy tale
Both games were *amazing!* Chris's play in the first game was.... brilliant. Beautiful, clever plans!
So... Kickstarter for season 3 when? 😁
What a fantastic way to end this season! I loved how everyone was playing their character, super fun!
I'm really glad we finally got a riot script with this crowd! It's a different story and they absolutely took to it.
Incredible work from all the cast, the hosts, and all the crew! Can't wait for the next series
*Pretty big words, do you have more words? That got me! :D
Thank you! Another great series I'm glad to have backed!
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When I saw Jon pull the demon on a script with a Flowergirl, I expected it to go badly. When he then decided to bluff as the famously difficult-to-bluff Savant, I said 'Oh Jon...' out loud - alone in my office. Bless his cotton socks, but Jon is so far out of his depth with these kinds of scripts, it's almost uncomfortable.
The season overall was great, though. One dull game at the end does not change that.
He didn't exactly _choose_ to bluff savant. He was gonna go for zealot but Laurie had already hard claimed to several people
@@Luciusem He had a wide field of bluffs to pick from, especially after talking to his widow. Going Savant and bluffing self-incriminating info was a terrible choice. Jon really should get more experience before being put in such games. Although he must have played well over 100 games by now, he still has difficulties grasping some rules and basic concepts.
I like how he was incorporated on the TPI stream: As part of a rev pair. The fabled was introduced exactly for such cases, as written on its wiki page.
@@Luciusemhe spoke to the widow, he had any bluff he wanted
@@bufftuckerit wasn’t shown but I think Laurie picked Zealot out of the bag which is why he was claiming it. He also did that before speaking to the Widow or to Jon
@@bacontheshoe it wasn’t shown but I think Laurie picked Zealot out of the bag which is why he was claiming it. He also did that before speaking to the Widow or to Jon
Tom: ...you bleating mutton of Raven's wood bluff.
Ken's face: Did he just call us sheeple?
Like sheep ordered to make bread, you knead this.
@@allgreatfictions
*Ewe knead this
These Blood on the Clocktower games are my favorite thing on the internet!! Just picked up my own copy at a local Game Shop yesterday!!
The game was unfortunate ruined for evil by ending up with a virgin and another good on diagonally opposite end positions. Bad luck for evil this time - still entertaining!
Season 3 pretty pretty please
I think the key of Lord of Typhon is you need to be very careful with touching the good players on either side with most evil abilities until you can convince the town that it's not a Lord of Typhon game. You need them alive to allow you to shift the line one way or the other.
In this case I think the town had stopped thinking it was Lord of Typhon (only Jon was continuing to harp on about it which made him look more evil). He also needed to be better with the Savant information. You need 2 true things but one of them that looks false based on all information town has, or 2 false but where one of them looks true based on all information town has.
Last night at least one player was affected by madness, and a sober and healthy chef would have gotten a 3 (for the Lord of Typhon line) would be a good example of what he should have said. Both are true, one of them that town already believes (the Harpy Madness), the other they are therefore likely to believe is false (no Lord of Typhon) and have no way to prove anyway and those words are literally copies of lines they have heard in previous games from Daddy Ben.
Similarly once Daddy Ben was dead, at least one player is poisoned (they believe a widow is in play so this is true, but the widow is actually dead so it's false), a sober and healthy Oracle would have gotten a one last night (this further pushes the world view the widow isn't dead yet as that would make both true). Again text book examples of Savant information.
Great group, hope to see this setup again :)
Thanks for this epic final episode!!! seeing daddy ben actually play is awesome!!!!
It's not quite as produced as NRB's episodes, but you can see Ben play quite a lot on the Blood on the Clocktower channel. Look for the "Player Perspective" videos and you'll see Ben playing, usually with Aggie, Edd, Dakota/Avery, or Patters handling ST duties. It's def fun to see Ben on the other side of the Grimoire.
Lord of Typhon is so weak as a demon but very strong as a potential demon.
If Jon had killed a good player, it would have been 4 vs 4. Good could never have had the vote as long as evil voted as a block. Could have been OP
@@Yivia dead votes
It's more powerful then it came off in this vid. The fact both sides of the evil group got mechanically confirmed to be good on the very first day was MASSIVE information (It was literally impossible for any script trickery to have caused that outcome). Boxing in the living good vs the evil team means that all of the good players who know they themselves are good, have every reason to nominate a middle player from the other side, and watch the voting patterns of the other side. If they are not reading suspicious, then you can conclude 1.) they are amazing actors and double bluffing 2.) you didn't pick the demon, you picked their minion, 3.) it's a different demon.
Without boxing them in, if you find 1 minion is sus, you still need to figure out if it's even the demon in play, and where that sus player is in the lineup. This is all information you will struggle to gather in the first few days. The first few days in which the evil players can quickly gain a voting majority.
Those end credits were the most childish giggle fit I've had in quite some time
Yall are the best!! Great season finalle and such fun!! Hope everyone is well and those on the team at the fringe this year had a good fringe!!
I haven’t been checking your channel at least a few times a day, waiting for this. Honest.
Oh this is great already. Steven as a ST, and Ben gets to play? Yay.
Also highly approve of that opening by Tom. Appropriately epic AND a pun. Love that.
The best thing about Tilly turning her hat was that the way she ducked down left exactly her hat plainly in view as she turned it around.
Though, the whole Dom-Tilly nomination was super fun.
Also really appreciate the visualization of seats being shuffled there.
Glad we got everyone's Bum-sona in the credits.
Mechanically confirming two players as good splitting the group into literal bench vs bench was MASSIVE information in combination with the meta gaming of "a new demon is on the script, i know I'm good, thus the middle two over there has a demon if the most probable demon is in play"
at the very worst you can just kill one for science. the fact that the entire other bench consistently was voting for your side, and keeps trying to protect the member on the block only helps confirm the demon.
The Clockmaker 1 didn't help either.
Banger to finish the season, from start to finish
Chris played this so, so well, I'm so impressed how he navigated both his role and the position he was put in to not only set up everyone on his team getting good information and role confirmations w/o offing a townsfolk with info gathering potential left, but also to lay the breadcrumbs for Holly to sus out the existence of the Harpy and all that that implied about the game state. Amazing! I can't believe Blair and Ken called it on the first round, if only Ken had gotten the guess in day 1 it may have been a VERY short round of play, here.
this whole season was great, really glad you made another
It took a month but I've watched all of the episodes and I am NOW able to back the kickstarter :) I'm right on time!
Ah!!! Daddy Ben playing! It's so weird to see this without also following his perspective.
as someone from Hounslow i can confirm, we can't leave
You can do it, just pretend you live in Isleworth, and the curse lifts for just long enough for you to escape. I got out!
Please do another season! Everyone is so interesting playing this game, i watch every episode!
I've been waiting for a Riot game for SO LONG. That was absolutely electric.
When the autoplay starts an NRB p BOTC and you just presumed it is one you've seen before...then the realisation hits 🎉
Would have loved to see the whole evil team claim goblin as soon as they were zeroed in on. Everyone vote together so the flower girl can't pin down the demon and make good team make some risky choices lol.
Chris made maybe the greatest play I've seen in BoTC, hats off to you man!
i paused the video half way through because i thought ken was going to guess straight away with his right answer
And so, even with the odds stacked in the evil team's favour against them, it was Chris's virgin purity that clutched for the good team.
MOAR! MOAR NAO! MOAR NAO PLZTY!
In all seriousness, this was beautiful. Thank you.
A+ on the sheep bread joke - we’re lucky to have Tom as the straw that stirs the ravenswood bluff drink
So good! short, but extremely exciting! Thank you, I cant wait for the next season
It's been a while since I last checked one of these out. Yall really pushed the budget, I'm hella impressed!