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What are wedge sole boots good for? If you've ever wondered why iron workers wear wedge sole boots, I've packed everything you need to know into 60 seconds.
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We wear them so if we hang out heel over the edge of a beam we don’t fall that half inch that a normal sole has. It’s called a half inch heart attack.
I was going on the comments to say the same exact thing.
Thank you
Yep
That's right! Local 377
Boot spy has soft hands 😂
Rodbusters wear them so our heel doesn’t catch while walking on rebar.
Facts🤙🏼
Word. Idk where that slip resistance hes going on about is tho. Soon as that slabs wet im fucked 👀
@@malicesutton8592 on oily concrete they work amazing. Even epoxy sealed concrete with oil or coolant all over it is usually not an issue. I use those soles in a machine shop and they still have decent grip after 10 years
I normally wear a heel for going up and down ladders or on a vertical job. If I'm assigned a slab I use the wedge soles for walking on the bars.
I’ve been on roof decks setting sleeves while wearing boots with heels. It was a challenge trying to walk the rebar without it catching my heel.
They wear them so the boot heel doesn’t trip them on rebar or on a beam 100 story’s up.
This.
Yup
in a decent country that aint even a issue anymore. just in 3th world countries where safety aint prio 1. Like the US .
@@MSPstance
FlipFlops have no heel either, so problem solved.
Lol as an ironworker myself, we will all tell you it's nothing to do with comfort, though it does help with lower back pain, it's because it's the safer choice on steel. Heels are a tripping hazard bud
Makes sense to me. I tend towards old combat boots because I have them, they're comfortable for walking long distances, and you ain't big enough and there ain't enough of you to convince me to be up on high iron.
Retired iron worker here, that exactly right. Heels get caught on bolts, or on real old stuff, rivets, a,d cause tripping.
Plus the crepe sole is less slippery, especially when climbing or sliding a column.
Tell that to the railroad. They require a heel.
@@DJPhantomRage a lot of companies do, for ladder safety according to them, so your foot doesn’t slide thru the rungs.
I wonder what never worked a day I his life clown made that call…
straight facts when you’re 250’ in the air and the heel of your boot slips off the flange and your foot drops a half inch it feels like a mile and you may shit a little
in canada they are forced to wear them in the iron industry because heels are a tripping hazard.
Took the words out my mouth
I don't know if I would want to work with people that don't know how to walk,,,I don't know that just seems like a basic function of life,,only one dude I knew would wear wedged shape mock toe and we would always stick him welding overhead
In canada you need this no heels.i know in fort mcmurray steel guys end up town buys this type boots or out job yup.union in fact.i saw people argue with boss and fired on spot,some guys are ban job site due arrogance and bold yup.😊
Learn how to speak dude what are you trying to say@@lucmarchand617
Flat bottoms are banned in alot of Canadian sites.
I’ve always found them to be slick as heck on icy or snowy conditions.
I’m a nurse but I wear thorogoods, I’ve tried for years probably 6 different shoes I’ve seen other nurses wear but every one of them caused lower back or foot pain. My thorogoods really help because I feel like all parts of my foot are in constant contact with the floor, with the running shoes my feet are constantly rolling laterally
If i catch a nurse wearing thorogoods, im definitely complimenting them lol
I used Mephisto gum shoes (expensive) and later Flexi sole shoes (Mexican brand) much cheaper, but just as comfortable.
I wore Wolverines for years then I could not find any in stock .. I ordered Thorogoods online and I like they better they are more comfortable .
I’ve been wearing Thorogoods for over a year now as a teacher and they are great for walking, crouching, standing, on concrete all day.
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I feel like someone needs to educate people on what ironworker walk on. If you can guess it we walk on the iron at least 75% of our time in our boots, not concrete.
I’ve had my moc red wings for 4 years had them re-souled this year been the most comfortable shoe I’ve ever had I wear them everyday everywhere
I have a pair of Keen wedge sole boots that I wear everyday on the job as a machinist and they’re fantastic! Best design for what I do day in and day out!
I agree. The toe box is second to none.
I have the Keen Wellington style cowboy boot with a wedge sole. They're amazing as a ditch digger/roofer! Wont wear anything else now. Keen's San Jose is a slimmed down wedge with either a soft toe or lightweight aluminum toe and those are awesome too.
I was i rigger and i asked an iron worker about them he said its because when you walk on i beams you dint want to catch a heel on anything and trip. Made perect sense to me.
I wear the 1957 Thorogood with the heel because the sole is a little tougher and if I’m asked to climb a wood pole at work I can. Out of my four sets of work boots they are easily my favorites and Im about to grab another set for the rotation!
Just bought a pair of Brunt Marins last week. I have to say they are very good for standing on concrete all day!
I was born into a concrete construction company and work doing a lil brick and stone. I gotta say that I prefer that flat wedge sole. I grew up as a skater kid and always wear flat sole skate shoes. If I were a logger, maybe I would choose a heeled boot. I spend at least 8 hours working with little breaks. Good boots are an investment in your posture!
love them versatile anywhere. from dirt to rebar patch, to power troweled floors. Only time they suck is on wet slimy wood and mud, no heel so you just slide everywhere😆
Liquid Nails subfloor adhesive used to work great for reinforcing areas of wear on those soles. It blended in with the color and wore like iron.
Pronounced heel for life. Had wedge soles slide across steps and land me on my tail bone too many times.
Frequently not permitted once the place is built for other workers (operators, etc.) as heels are preferred for vertical caged ladder climbing in a finished facility.
Worn red wing loggers everyday since i got out of army in 93 ,Redwings are by far the best boots ever in my opinion. Just my opinion.
Thorogoods are more durable than Redwing. JK, Nick's, and Whites are undeniably the best boots money can buy for work.
Ì agree nicks are top of the line
It’s so you don’t catch your heel on rebar, My father was a Rodbuster for 23 years, Learned a lot from him.
You forgot the most important reason for an Iron Worker. If you are walking a beam you do not want a heel that could induce what my father called the “heart attack slip”.
Big facts right here I switched to wedge soul boots three years ago, and the comfort is undeniable. What I also like is the soul itself is a little bit wider than the boot helping with balance and not rolling your ankles especially if you’re rolling itch out walking on 3in of purlin. vinyl will catch u tho lolllll
I love mine. They dont track mud as bad as my lug sole boots.
I started wearing wedge soles about a year ago. They felt strange at first but are actually very nice on hard flat surfaces. I'd like some Redwings but they're too expensive. I'm currently wearing Wolverine Hellcats.
You forgot the number one reason not having a heal on the boot stops it from catching the top flange and throwing you in the hole..union Ironworker 25yrs
No heel means you can't hook on to the edge something like a ladder rung, not safe in my opinion.
Sorry but that's wrong according to OSHA lol. I'm an industrial electrician and bought the thorogood wedge sole. And or safety man told me they aren't allowed on the job. Which would explain why I was the only one with them out of 200+ guys. Heeled soles are safer on ladders because the heel against the rung. Also wedge soles suck in the dirt, they slide all over on mud.
@@electricalife How am I wrong if you agree with what I said?
Unmentioned and more notable reason, when installing steel roof before insulation and actual roof, there is a net the covers the whole roof that lays on the steel joists. Standard boots with heel or deep grooves catch that net and you find yourself getting stuck and falling into the net looking 60+ feet above the ground with only the net stopping you from falling.
I got some Irish setters mock toe wedge recently and I’m a big fan
I have very low arches and the thorogoods are a godsend.
Also can't be worn on any industrial site. When ironworkers still climbed steel, they all had boots with heels because they rode columns like firepoles, you hook your heels onto the back flange of the beam to climb or slide. Flat soles are a safety issue on ladders because they allow your foot to slip through. They just became a fad relatively recently with cork sniffing ironheads and boileys.In the 80's nobody wore flat soles.
Yeah I wore them so my heel wouldn’t get caught on a bar joist or raises beam I was walking across. Also I always wore Red Wing Pecos with a wedge sole because the Moc toe would catch any red hot steel that I was cutting or welding and it would burn out the stitching in the moc toe… I have a video on my channel of me walking iron and climbing a column with the Red Wing Pecos I have mentioned here. Still have em :)
I love the Pecos boots, super underrated.
they stopped making the 866 :(
@@jadenchavez8917 yeah they haven’t made them since last year because they were back ordered and they eventually just discontinued them.
Ay your drums are sick. What area do you live?
We also wear them to not catch that stupid heel on the edges of steel. And when you're walking a beam, if you had a heel, it could fall off the edge of the beam and lose your balance
As someone who normally wears heeled logger boots for hiking on railroad ballast and has had the displeasure of wearing those boots on a few concrete pours, you wear flat soles in those environments so your heel doesn't catch on anything and trip you.
Idk if its because i favor walking on my toes or what, but i dont tend to trip too much with regular heels.
Heck i even comfortably run some mountain trails and free climb in em.
I have really high arches too so that may play a factor with not preferring flat soles.
@@100GTAGUY
Yeah and similarly on normal surfaces I'm not really tripping on much, but in my experience it's fairly difficult to walk on tied rebar with heels.
I wear them bc my foreman told me to
😂😂
That’s why I always wear my Georgia boots but them bitches hurt my feet
Ain’t ever worn round toes
I prefer wedge boots because as a truck driver in construction, I don’t want my boots holding and carrying mud and dirt into the truck I drive. Construction sites tend to me mostly dirt and when it rains you get mud that will cake on your boots in a heartbeat and wedge soles are the easiest to keep from carrying the mud into the truck.
Diesel mechanic, love my redwings. Tanks of boots and they are almost as comfortable as a pair of tennis shoes
I went in to buy boots at a small shop.
My 8” moc toe thorogoods are wedge, the man who owned the shop told me to get them simply because everyone liked them better than the heeled one, and he had regulars come by before and switch to wedge and never go back.
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Seem pretty nice. All my co workers in the elevator union used to make fun of me for wearing the cheapest boots from walmart. Sole was super hard so they'd last a awhile walking on concrete.
Machine Tool Pipefitter. Concrete floors, climbing around. Good multi purpose boot.
Its easier to walk beams you dont get hung up if have any heel on the boot. Youe can feel the edge of beam under your feet better as well. Also great for scafolding work.
I remember wearing Polo boots all throughout the early 2000's. Such a classic.
I have those boots. They are a deathwish in the snow and ice, but they are way more comfortable.
The refineries have banned the wedge soles claiming all the opposite you just stated. They need to see this video.
Send them to me. I’ll fix them
They want a heeled boot due to climbing ladders . The iron workers were always allowed to wear the wedge sole due to the nature of their jobs which is a given. Nobody want to trip over a stupid heel when you're up that high.
First person to give me a reasonable argument to switch to moc toe… and now I’m considering🤣
i used to get carolina or wolverine wedge soles
Also when climbing on steel there’s no heel to catch on beams which could cause a trip
As a union carpenter (local 336) I only wear Thorogoods because they’re American made by union workers
Buy American
The “logger style” boot sole literally cost the same to have resoled and depending on what you get is equally if not better traction just only lacks cushion which a quality pair of boots doesn’t matter since it will be comfy AF still.
Don't know about iron workers, much respect to you guys.
I wish these work boot makers would get with the gals that work hard jobs.
I worked at a papermill 26 years and the vast majority of that was outside and I went through my boots like people change underwear. I'm no fru fru gal, I did my job and kept up with the the guys I worked with. The womans boots were comfortable but ALL OF THEM FELL APART!
I got tired of that mess and started wearing mens boots. Instead of going through 4- 5 pairs a year, it went down to around 2 pairs but they were a lot bulkier and every pair changed the way you walked.
Anything made as womens work clothes to boots NEVER lasted but you buy mens and the things lasted fir a long time. When you work hard, freezing in the winter and burning uo in the summer, getting sopping wet and getting grimy and grease all over you... we deserve good clothes and shoes too! If we can afford the clothes and shoes like men have to pay for things they use to work in then give us the same quality!
Honestly I’ve had better luck with a logger heel on concrete. At least my back feels but you do notice more of an impact so there is trade offs
Thorogoods are legit working boots
Most comfortable and toughest boot I've found. I recommend them to everyone I know.
@@weirdmood8102 I like those for made in America and Irish setter wingshooters as far as imports go.
And they last less than a year because they prioritize quick break on over durabliltu. Mine are shredded. I’m looking elsewhere for my next pair
@@eclark9965what exactly is worn on your boots? My soles wear quickly, and my most recent pair has a few stitches that came out, but aside from that I’ve had several pairs that I’ve worn for well over a year without issue
@@eclark9965any luck?
💯 true 👍 👍well worth the money best shoes ever owned
I didn't love the style at first but now I like and get a lot of compliments
And while they don’t do as much today it allows them to CLIMB the I-beams….. it’s fuq’ing wild to see em do it and they still teach in school
They are great until about 12-15yrs in when the raised heel causes foot & knee pain. Then a few years later when the beer belly exacerbates the forward pressure the back problems begin.
Flaggers and riggers and signalers wear them too. Local 737.
@bootspy can you do one on sailors boots maybe a history and what’s in the industry today from a merchant mariner
And that wed soul that’s where you step on the rebar and you got more cushion there
I always wanted to try a wedge sole but I work on a oil rig and need a heeled boot for use on ladders
Asphalt workers also prefer wedge as the heel will tend to collect the hot asphalt and keep it against the foot. But the heat also destroys the softer wedge sole faster 😂😅
I’m a landscaper and I wear wolverines moc toe wedge boots. Comfiest damn boots ever. I’ll grant that my Carolina’s we’re pretty damn good too, but it’s too hot for that shit here
Wedge soul are also known as Brothel creepers . As they dont make as much noise when walking as a heeled shoe /boot does .
When I switched from heel to wedge my crippling plantar fasciitis went away.
If you're standing on concrete 8+ hours a day they're a must.
I own the Thorogoods. Most uncomfortable boots ive ever worn. Worse than the boots the Marine Corps issued me. “Comfortable” my ass.
I think Thorogood had the government contact on military issues. Try Redwings for a change. 😂
Everyone has different feet. 50 years ago in the Army, with my perfectly flat feet, I never had any issues with my feet. I might have had one or 2 blisters over all these years. My only rule is to make sure my boots aren't too tight.
No one resoles those boots ever. When the sole is gone the boot is junk. Or will be before you wear out the next set of soles. Just buy a new pair.
Take care of your leather and theyll literally last you decades with some exceptions.
However some quality brands offer life-long repair/warranty services for leather items and offer a yearly resole, typically thats the $500+ kinda boots though. Which you definitely don't just throw away like some $30 sweat logged walmart beaters.
Tile workers too... I wear wolverine pull over for the ease of use but I know plenty of layers that wear those
They may be used by iron workers but this advertisement showed them being worn on railroad tracks. The railroads I worked for specifically required a definite heel and said wedge soles were not allowed in the safety rules.
Hell I’m an electrician (apprentice) and I have a pair this is just reinforcing my purchase and giving me a bunch of good knowledge because I just went in to find a comfy boot because in knew that was important 😂
Thoroughgood 8inch combat toe.
An Apocalypse grade boot
I will try it
My dad wore those paving because they were easier to clean asplaht/pavement off with the flat bottom
Those Thorogood wedge soles have the absolute worst slip resistance.
Wet plastic, metal, especially tile, wet anything. I nearly did the splits once walking over one of those yellow handicap ramps in parking lots in the rain while wearing Thorogoods.
Most comfortable yet most unstable in the rain. Same with Redwing wedges.
I had a cobbler glue/nail kitchen rated outsole to my Thorogoods. The white wedge is still there, but it now seamlessly transitions to this new black outsole with suction a cup-like pattern. I don't know the material. It's soft rubber though. I now have the best of both worlds.
I use mine for work as a foodservice truck driver delivering to various fast food restaurants and pizzerias. I walk 10-15 miles a day at work (more like pushing a dolly with 200lbs-400lbs of goods). 10-14 stops, 25k-35k lbs on routes.
Chicken restaurants are by far the most slippery due to the nature of their deep frying business. I'm on freaking rails now though.
Great tip. I’ve got one damaged ankle and a slip could be disastrous for me, so I’m going to take heed and get some boots set up like you suggest. 👍🏻
Same man. I am a delivery driver whose job is to deliver fresh produce straight to restaurants cafe cool room and i walk through various kitchens and my moc toes are crazy slippery and got worn out in 6 months after buying.
Now i gave shoes to cobbler and getting a heavy lug resole and thinking if i made a mistake or should i go for wedge sole.
You forgot the part about no separate heel... the wedge actually will reduce tripping that is associated with heeled shoes.
Them redwings my favorite boots of all time
Some jobsites require notched heel boots. I prefer wedge soles but I have a pair that are hard toe notched heel because it is a requirement at refineries. Thorogood boots are all I wear.
Carolina wedge soles for me, but wedge sole boots are a legit life saver when I’m walking thick mats (rebar) and really makes it feel like I’m making solid contact with every step
You can scrape mud off of them easier also
They are for flat feet not for people with high arch, that’s why I went with loggers
That’s why you remove the factory insert. Replace with whatever you need. I have regular arches. I went with the orange Superfeet insert for my Thorogood boots.
This was confusing as in Australia an Iron worker works in a foundry and wears high temperature nitrile sole boots. Structure steel here is done by steel fixers.
In North America (Canada and the USA) Ironworkers put up the steel/iron/rebar along with other parts or the trade and Steel workers are the ones making the steel and other metals.
How did you miss the actual reason?
Dude know what you are talking about. We wear them because the heel on a regular boot is a tripping hazard
Unfortunately, it's not a zero rise which can still put stress on the knees and lower back.
So you don’t catch the heel and trip.
Also, roll your sock over the outside top of the boot and stick your laces up underneath to hold your laces from getting caught on anything.
Yeah I wear em whenever a company lets me.
More surface area does not mean better slip resistance. Friction force is agnostic to surface area. Slip resistance is reliant on material properties. If you take 1 square inch of rubber and apply 20lbs to it it's breakout force is identical to 4 square inches with 20lbs applied.
Very comfortable boot, possibly the most comfortable.
The moc-toe makes a nice shelf for weld spatter and lack of a heel is not kosher in the shipyard. That said people do still wear them
Typically moc toe boots have a bigger toe box which makes them more comfortable.
Not thorogood, the toe box is wonky. I have a wider foot, their wide was a clown boot, their normal was pretty snug
Dude spends a whole minute getting the explanation wrong. It's the lack of a heel. Makes moving around on those work sites safer.
I like that suede and black trim version you held up in the start of the video. Can you let me know the exact model so i can find them please? Thanks!
Because they're gay
why do the make the sole white color. It shows up dirt very easily.
everyone loves Redwing boots but legend has it they borrowed the designs from an older company... I will let you find who on your own...
Apparently this man have never had a heel slip or a heel catch while walking a beam
You wear them to not catch on the beams, but sadly the vast majority of refineries and construction companies have banned them due to people blaming ladder falls on the lack of heel. Yet I've never seen someone lock the heel into a ladder. Most people climb ladders on the balls of their feet not the arch
Surface area has no relation to friction, it isn't in the equation.
My dad always talked about wearing wedge sole boots for working, there was period they became hard to get where i live, i started working wearing cowboy boots and other lace up, switched to wedges and will never go back. The hawks were great for awhile but the sole was to soft got alot of chips and shaving stuck in them, currently wearing ever boots and there sole is the best
Flat soled boots are banned in some refineries and chemical plants.
Why?
I call BS on that
Too slick!!!
Love my web sole mock toe thoroughgoods. Made in the USA by Union seamstresses.
As someone who sells work boots for a living, I can say that this video is accurate.
I’m an ironworker and the real reason we wear wedge sole boots is they look fucking cool
Pipefitters wear them for comfort. Thorogoods are by far the best I've ever worn.