Great episode! John is very entertaining, and fits perfectly with the CWN vibe. And now I have Matthew Corbett on my radar thanks to him. Also, happy 5-year anniversary! Wish you a lot more to come.
Glad you read A Pale View of Hills, Jimmy! Especially before Never Let Me Go, because I think with at least Pale View and Remains under your belt, you're primed to not be wowed by Never Let Me Go (don't mind me, I'm just bitter because I think Never Let Me Go attempts similar things to both those novels but much worse which is why it bothers me that it's his most famous and Pale View especially is so underrated compared). But seriously, A Pale View of Hills is so good, written so subtly and with a deft hand that if you miss a single, crucial sentence, you might not even realise there is a "twist", per se. I especially love the dialogue in that book, the way characters talk past one another, repeat themselves as to say so much more than their actual words convey. Don't skip out on An Artist of the Floating World, either! Great chat, as always.
Happy Anniversary to you and the lovely Kelsey!! 🥰 Did John just almost rival Allen as my favourite CWN guest? The unimaginable has happened!! Glad to be part of the cool dude club, thanks for the fun 🔥
I know you said you don’t think anyone is clambering to hear you talk about murikami but I would. I find a lot of the fantasy channels are an echo chamber of the all the same books and the thing I like most about your channel is I hear about books I’ve never considered. Now I’ve read remains of the day and cloud atlas with demon copperhead on deck. Keep being original brother!
I thought the plot twist for A Pale View of Hills was fantastic, just wish I got more from it along the way. Kinda put me in mind of the movie Lake Mungo in that regard. Definitely a great read for any writer though just by how much you can learn from Ishiguro blindsiding the reader even while using such simple and clear prose
Cool to see a Martin McDonagh shout out. 95% sure that we are related since we've both got family history in Lettermullen and spell our surname the same way which tends to be the more rare version.
I’ve seen you (Jimmy) mention that you want to read War and Peace several times now. I read it not long after reading Stormlight Archive and it reads fast and is super easy to get through despite its length. It felt like a Stormlight book in its epic scope and pacing (pacing is probably actually closer to a faster paced Stormlight book like WoR) and I never wanted to put it down. It helps that the chapters take about 5 mins to read, so I kept saying “just one more” until I had binged it in 10 days or so. I don’t think it warrants the daunting feeling everyone has before they start, the only caveat being that Russian names can be a bit confusing with their different variations. It’s WAY easier to read than Malazan, for instance, which I’m reading now. I’d say you should take a crack at it and I think you’ll love it based on everything else you seem to enjoy.
@@thefantasynuttwork The Anthony Briggs translation from the penguin classics edition was great - I really enjoyed how he did the notes and the internal French translation for easy readability. I’ve also heard really good things about the P + V translation.
Jimmy so happy to hear your thoughts on Swan Song was exactly like mine, there are not too many of us that feel the 2nd half was cheesy!! I loved the first half. John convinced me to read Speaks the Night Bird too. I loved 3/4th of the book… again a cheese factor in the form of a bear ruined the ending for me. But the first few chapters are so truly scary I wanted to cover my eyes.😱
Happy wedding anniversary! First Bookish and now Talking Story! I'm enjoying these Texas booktubers. You haven't read Vonnegut yet! 🤯 Now I don't book shame but I did assume with this lit fic kick of yours that you had already read Vonnegut. I'm kinda jealous. I wish I could read Vonnegut with fresh eyes in my 30s. You are gonna love his stuff. Talking Story is right about Slaughterhouse Five. It is so different for every person that reads it. But I think you should start with Breakfast if Champions of you are going to read Vonnegut. That is a Jimmy book. I need to make time for some GGK. I have a copy of To Ride Hell's Chasm and I really want to give it a go. This was a great episode!
This was a great discussion, thanks Jimmy and John! I also just bought Welcome to the Monkey House by Kurt Vonnegut, looking forward to hearing your thoughts if you read it jimmy!
Hey Jimmy -- re: seeing plays, I don't have any idea if it's even in production any more but Assassins is amazing. That and Jesus Christ Superstar. Take 5 mins and go watch Patrick Cassidy & Victor Garber's "The Ballad of Booth" and you'll get me. Cheers man. PS: Fantastic convo gentlemen.
John is amazing and I was really looking forwards to this but sadly I didn't catch it live. Great on replay though. Suddenly as soon as Allen leaves everybody admits that Brandon can write humor. Hmm. Also, Warbreaker actually has one of my least favorite magic systems, so its interesting that everybody else seems to love it.
@@thefantasynuttwork Yeah that obviously fine even I don't love all of his humor; he's said that he purposely tries to write different kinds so I don't think all of its going to work for just about anybody - but I find it strange when people say that ALL of its horrible - like, do you really think Wit isn't at least a bit clever? And I've never seen that opinion (that all of his humor is bad) outside of this little sphere of booktube, but it seems to be pretty common here, and I don't know why that is.
Earlier this year I read Boy's Life (it was fine) but I got 100 pages into Swan Song after watching this stream... ngl all it did was make me want to re-read The Stand 😅
Jimmy check out Martin McDonagh's In Bruges. A dark comedy about two hitmen (Brendan Gleeson and Colin Farrell) fleeing to Bruges after a botched job and anxiously (well, one of them is) awaiting further orders. His brother John Michael McDonagh is also a successful playwright and filmmaker in his own right with stuff like The Guard (starring Brendan Gleeson and Don Cheadle), I'm not sure if it still is but it was at one point Ireland's most successful indie film.
In Bruges is a contender of best film for me, and Martin's always got something unique to say - would love to find his plays. I've started getting into John Michael's films to; the Gurard was enjoyable, but Calvary (with Gleeson again) hits you like a ton of bricks, it's up there with his brother's work.
@@thefantasynuttwork I feel you. I was also addicted at three different time periods in my life. The last time was a full gas since I have a job and was able to afford so much more. But I'm done with the paper crack for more that a year now (WOTC and Hasbro helped a lot with their brilliant business strategy 😵💫🤮) but I am still playing Arena where I can manage to free-play.
Ok is great way to put how Swan Song is. That's how I felt. It wasn't horrible, but it is not great. I am glad I read it, but I will never return to it. The weakest McCammom I have read.
This is one of the best episodes of CWN, effortless chemisty. John is great. Matthew Corbett is also fantastic.
He’s the dude!
Can’t thank you enough for the invite and the party that followed. Can’t wait till we get together again.
Was a blast my friend. You’re welcome on anytime!
This was a joy to watch. You two have such good rapport. Love both of your channels.
Thank you! This was one of my favorite episodes
Happy Anniversary Kelsey, thank you for sharing Jimmy with us 😘
She’s says anytime 😂
Absolutely loved the show! Both of you are real pleasure to watch and listen to and this one was a lot of fun.
We had fun, glad you did too!
John coming through and representing the Matthew Corbett series with the passion it deserves.🔥 It's an outstanding series.
Solid sales pitch!
As always, a delight to watch!! Thanks Jimmy and John. ❤
Thanks for being here!
Really enjoyed this episode! I always look forward to these episodes. Also, John Minton is awesome!
This is a favorite of mine!
Missed the live but this was such a fun episode to watch!
One of my favs!
Great episode! John is very entertaining, and fits perfectly with the CWN vibe. And now I have Matthew Corbett on my radar thanks to him.
Also, happy 5-year anniversary! Wish you a lot more to come.
Thank you so much
Glad you read A Pale View of Hills, Jimmy! Especially before Never Let Me Go, because I think with at least Pale View and Remains under your belt, you're primed to not be wowed by Never Let Me Go (don't mind me, I'm just bitter because I think Never Let Me Go attempts similar things to both those novels but much worse which is why it bothers me that it's his most famous and Pale View especially is so underrated compared). But seriously, A Pale View of Hills is so good, written so subtly and with a deft hand that if you miss a single, crucial sentence, you might not even realise there is a "twist", per se. I especially love the dialogue in that book, the way characters talk past one another, repeat themselves as to say so much more than their actual words convey. Don't skip out on An Artist of the Floating World, either! Great chat, as always.
Thank you so much
@mckennaaustin-ward4209 it's hard to go wrong with Ishiguro :)
This was great! I play magic while I listen to this show. 😁
A man of taste!
Happy Anniversary to you and the lovely Kelsey!! 🥰
Did John just almost rival Allen as my favourite CWN guest? The unimaginable has happened!! Glad to be part of the cool dude club, thanks for the fun 🔥
Allen is going to scowl at this comment
@@thefantasynuttwork I guess that means I finally made it on booktube
@@esmayrosalyne lmao
I know you said you don’t think anyone is clambering to hear you talk about murikami but I would. I find a lot of the fantasy channels are an echo chamber of the all the same books and the thing I like most about your channel is I hear about books I’ve never considered. Now I’ve read remains of the day and cloud atlas with demon copperhead on deck.
Keep being original brother!
Appreciate that!
Wow, I honestly have never seen this guys channel….ill check him out asap….another good one Jimmy
He’s awesome and thanks!
I thought the plot twist for A Pale View of Hills was fantastic, just wish I got more from it along the way. Kinda put me in mind of the movie Lake Mungo in that regard. Definitely a great read for any writer though just by how much you can learn from Ishiguro blindsiding the reader even while using such simple and clear prose
Yesss Jimmy!! A Pale View.....i told you!!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
You were very correct!
Cool to see a Martin McDonagh shout out. 95% sure that we are related since we've both got family history in Lettermullen and spell our surname the same way which tends to be the more rare version.
That’s cool!!
I’ve seen you (Jimmy) mention that you want to read War and Peace several times now. I read it not long after reading Stormlight Archive and it reads fast and is super easy to get through despite its length. It felt like a Stormlight book in its epic scope and pacing (pacing is probably actually closer to a faster paced Stormlight book like WoR) and I never wanted to put it down. It helps that the chapters take about 5 mins to read, so I kept saying “just one more” until I had binged it in 10 days or so. I don’t think it warrants the daunting feeling everyone has before they start, the only caveat being that Russian names can be a bit confusing with their different variations. It’s WAY easier to read than Malazan, for instance, which I’m reading now. I’d say you should take a crack at it and I think you’ll love it based on everything else you seem to enjoy.
Okay maybe I’ll pick it up finally!
@@thefantasynuttwork Awesome! Just make sure you get a readable translation and it should be smooth sailing.
@@marcelbeaudoin3886 best translation?
@@thefantasynuttwork The Anthony Briggs translation from the penguin classics edition was great - I really enjoyed how he did the notes and the internal French translation for easy readability. I’ve also heard really good things about the P + V translation.
1:02:12 yeah, that’s precisely my problem with McCarthy 😂
😆
Happy anniversary Mr Nutts
Thank you!!!
This was wholesomely good
Thanks!!!
Jimmy so happy to hear your thoughts on Swan Song was exactly like mine, there are not too many of us that feel the 2nd half was cheesy!! I loved the first half.
John convinced me to read Speaks the Night Bird too. I loved 3/4th of the book… again a cheese factor in the form of a bear ruined the ending for me. But the first few chapters are so truly scary I wanted to cover my eyes.😱
I’m hoping I like night bird more!
@@thefantasynuttwork
Boy’s Life is perfect from the first page to the last, read that one first.
Happy wedding anniversary!
First Bookish and now Talking Story! I'm enjoying these Texas booktubers.
You haven't read Vonnegut yet! 🤯
Now I don't book shame but I did assume with this lit fic kick of yours that you had already read Vonnegut. I'm kinda jealous. I wish I could read Vonnegut with fresh eyes in my 30s. You are gonna love his stuff.
Talking Story is right about Slaughterhouse Five. It is so different for every person that reads it.
But I think you should start with Breakfast if Champions of you are going to read Vonnegut. That is a Jimmy book.
I need to make time for some GGK.
I have a copy of To Ride Hell's Chasm and I really want to give it a go.
This was a great episode!
Thanks buddy! Vonnegut has been on my list for a good while
Nice Powell’s shirt. The Gold Room is nirvana.
True!
This was a great discussion, thanks Jimmy and John! I also just bought Welcome to the Monkey House by Kurt Vonnegut, looking forward to hearing your thoughts if you read it jimmy!
So far so good! Thank you for watching
"Top 10 videos the way they ought to be...uh... video-d." -GRRM
Hey Jimmy -- re: seeing plays, I don't have any idea if it's even in production any more but Assassins is amazing. That and Jesus Christ Superstar. Take 5 mins and go watch Patrick Cassidy & Victor Garber's "The Ballad of Booth" and you'll get me. Cheers man. PS: Fantastic convo gentlemen.
Thank ya!
John is amazing and I was really looking forwards to this but sadly I didn't catch it live. Great on replay though.
Suddenly as soon as Allen leaves everybody admits that Brandon can write humor. Hmm. Also, Warbreaker actually has one of my least favorite magic systems, so its interesting that everybody else seems to love it.
Sando has about an 80% miss rate on humor for me lol
@@thefantasynuttwork Yeah that obviously fine even I don't love all of his humor; he's said that he purposely tries to write different kinds so I don't think all of its going to work for just about anybody - but I find it strange when people say that ALL of its horrible - like, do you really think Wit isn't at least a bit clever? And I've never seen that opinion (that all of his humor is bad) outside of this little sphere of booktube, but it seems to be pretty common here, and I don't know why that is.
@@ericF-17 i think people just have different tastes
I finished Pale View in 2 days. The cat scene was a tough read
Yes it was
Earlier this year I read Boy's Life (it was fine) but I got 100 pages into Swan Song after watching this stream... ngl all it did was make me want to re-read The Stand 😅
Ahahaha
Happy anniversary to you both! (Mrs Nutts not Talking Story lol)
Thanks!
Jimmy check out Martin McDonagh's In Bruges. A dark comedy about two hitmen (Brendan Gleeson and Colin Farrell) fleeing to Bruges after a botched job and anxiously (well, one of them is) awaiting further orders.
His brother John Michael McDonagh is also a successful playwright and filmmaker in his own right with stuff like The Guard (starring Brendan Gleeson and Don Cheadle), I'm not sure if it still is but it was at one point Ireland's most successful indie film.
Sounds super good
This films is amazing Jimmy!
@@Talking_Story he probably won't now that I've recommended them. I've even less faith he'll check out my recommendations than I have that you will 🤣
@@thatsci-firogue someday I am gonna surprise you 😂
In Bruges is a contender of best film for me, and Martin's always got something unique to say - would love to find his plays. I've started getting into John Michael's films to; the Gurard was enjoyable, but Calvary (with Gleeson again) hits you like a ton of bricks, it's up there with his brother's work.
Is John a salesman of some sort? He should be.
Agreed 😂
I am spending way too much time watching booktube when I should be reading. I blame you.
My bad hahah
Jimmy you play MTG?!? You should talk about it!!
The addiction is real lol
@@thefantasynuttwork I feel you. I was also addicted at three different time periods in my life. The last time was a full gas since I have a job and was able to afford so much more. But I'm done with the paper crack for more that a year now (WOTC and Hasbro helped a lot with their brilliant business strategy 😵💫🤮) but I am still playing Arena where I can manage to free-play.
Have you played Keyforge Nuts
Not for a good while!
Ok is great way to put how Swan Song is. That's how I felt. It wasn't horrible, but it is not great. I am glad I read it, but I will never return to it. The weakest McCammom I have read.
Yeah I wish I had loved it more
@@thefantasynuttwork I think its main fault for me is that all the characters felt cartoony.