I made a Huge Mistake. I Should Have Done This Instead!

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  • @elysiumherps3338
    @elysiumherps3338 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +458

    I will be completely honest when I first saw the video I was very put off by the keeping 6 leopard gecko together. Despite my negative feelings rather than unsubscribe and stop my patreon, I figured I would wait and I was not disappointed. Thank you for making this video and reminding me why you're one of my favorite TH-camrs.

    • @WickensWickedReptiles
      @WickensWickedReptiles  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +169

      Comments like this are such a breath of fresh air. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to explain in detail. I appreciate you.

    • @ingeniouspixie
      @ingeniouspixie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      100% I knew you care enough about your animals and are smart enough that it was worth taking what you did seriously.
      Those of us who pay attention knew you would work it out. (Not to be a Brown noser،, just facts as I see it......)

    • @Blueberrybomb1234
      @Blueberrybomb1234 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@WickensWickedReptilesI was pretty mad about this, but the thing is, if you ever do something like this, PLEASE go over it more, but just take it as a lesson learned :)

    • @StarHope86
      @StarHope86 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Same. I love Adam’s videos. I thought he would eventually follow-up and likewise, wasn’t disappointed. It’s like there was a drop of blood spilled in the water, and people, like sharks, went crazy-go-nuts over it.

    • @Anthony-pi6pf
      @Anthony-pi6pf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Lmfao. Animal Karen’s are funny.

  • @Oliver_rants
    @Oliver_rants 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    I saw a lot of TikTok’s about this recently and was very upset, and honestly pretty skeptical because of how influencer apologies typically go, I was pleasantly surprised and glad that I listened to this video, thank you for all your contribution to the reptile community

  • @TedMattos
    @TedMattos 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    This shall completely go down as Geckogate '24. :)

  • @barbaralawrence7284
    @barbaralawrence7284 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

    This was a great response to the complaints out there. You have proven that you did your research and know what you’re doing. You’re a great resource for this of us who are trying our best to keep our animals happy and healthy. Thank you!

  • @Guitar_Courtney
    @Guitar_Courtney 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Such a perfect response. I saw the videos and comments on tiktok and knew that they weren’t getting the full story. People are so quick to cancel. You rock man 🤘🏼

  • @emersonb5764
    @emersonb5764 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    I appreciate you standing your ground with legit knowledge and calling people out for getting angry because they were told to, rather than learning something for themselves, cus there’s far too much of that going on these days.

  • @AuroraExotics
    @AuroraExotics 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    This is how we learn and evolve in herpetoculture! We should all strive to give captive animals more opportunities for natural behaviors as we gain the experience and ability to do so safely. Zoos do this all the time! Well said. It's nice to see folks handling this professionally. Hopefully the drama settles down.

  • @wildflower1397
    @wildflower1397 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    "Recreational outrage" is such an apt description. 😂

    • @WickensWickedReptiles
      @WickensWickedReptiles  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That’s exactly what this is

    • @blackdragonflyK8
      @blackdragonflyK8 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am SO using this term! Fits our family get togethers to a T!!

  • @LaceyNicolee
    @LaceyNicolee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I love how you handled this as a content creator and as a reptile keeper. Keep encouraging people to do their research! I love your channel and always look forward to your videos keep up the good work 🥹💕

  • @dakotamcnally96
    @dakotamcnally96 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    YOU ARE A LEGEND!!!!! Thank you for properly educating the reptile community, I feel like they can never agree on anything

  • @sherilynn1310
    @sherilynn1310 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    I admire your calm!!! I do not believe I've seen anyone respond to an online attack so logically and with such self-possession.

  • @zackcuster
    @zackcuster 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    Happy for the update and happy to support anyone who can stand their ground with facts and sources! I hope you don’t let this hinder your first adult vacay 😁🤙

  • @TheMedicinalMan
    @TheMedicinalMan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +216

    I love not being on TikTok. I just entirely miss stupid things like this and my life continues on. I’m so tired of how opinion is beating science in today’s world.

    • @WickensWickedReptiles
      @WickensWickedReptiles  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      TikTok is… something

    • @TheCharleseye
      @TheCharleseye 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Most adults aren't on TikTok. Most of the people trying to cancel Adam for not abiding by "Leopard Geckos for Dummies" guides are children. Coincidence?

    • @gundamnit3594
      @gundamnit3594 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@TheCharleseye These days we have plenty of adult children.

    • @TheCharleseye
      @TheCharleseye 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@gundamnit3594 Yeah, I just refer to them as children, as well. I'm considering switching to referring to the two groups as "mature" and "immature," though. I feel like that sums it up better.

    • @bryanspanjer3213
      @bryanspanjer3213 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      How DARE you! TikTok is a life guide that can help us all through any situation we find ourselves in!

  • @mikethereptileguy250
    @mikethereptileguy250 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +188

    Holy shit, that last quote “the issue isn’t what i’ve done the issue is you’ve never seen it before and you were told to be angry about it”
    SO fucking true, beyond true.

    • @chbgator2226
      @chbgator2226 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is prevalent in every animal group. Bunch of mindless sheep.

  • @99SigP
    @99SigP 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    It's videos like this that make me appreciate this channel. Not just going with what everyone says, but actually using logic and following it to it's conclusion.

  • @Excronix
    @Excronix 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Imagine doing your own research when you discover something new instead of trying to flame someone for things you never saw before.
    My man just dropped the mic, love it.

  • @crimsongamingvr6316
    @crimsongamingvr6316 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    We just got our first leopard gecko, your videos along with other enthusiasts' channels have helped me every step of the way. Related to this subject though, I don't think I've ever heard a video where you don't recommend someone doing their own research, and that what you do and how you do it is in no way a standard. This is something those who've chosen to judge you need to remind themselves. You made a decision based upon sound facts and research. Standards evolve, and so should our thinking. Thank you for this great response!

  • @DFangs219
    @DFangs219 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    This was a tremendous response to everything. Well done Adam 🤘

  • @AuTom9890
    @AuTom9890 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I got your point Adam. I watched a few vids about your upload 2 weeks ago but I still support you

  • @This_is_my_cat
    @This_is_my_cat 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I think this is a perfect video. It meets a need in the reptile community(misinformation), its message is awsome, and adams demeanor was perfect:he was calm, collected, understanding, and overall chill with peoples decisions. Keep up the great work!

  • @Musubi27
    @Musubi27 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    Absolutely the best response video, mature while light hearted, knowledgeable and providing sources is 100% the way to go. Keep it up Adam!🎉

  • @ok_iot
    @ok_iot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm not a part of cancel culture. I'm a part of personal growth culture. Good on you for choosing growth and explanation as well as education.

  • @kg9761
    @kg9761 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This needed to be said. I’m so tired of everyone regurgitating information back just because that’s what they know. Reptile groups on fb are an absolute cesspool of amateurs yelling at other amateurs and no one knows better. So thank you for this. This is what will advance our husbandry.

  • @ingeniouspixie
    @ingeniouspixie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    It's like solo male bettas vs sororities of female bettas.

    • @MendedSlinky
      @MendedSlinky 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Huh?

    • @riddlememphis
      @riddlememphis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Betta fish. The males will rip each other apart, which is why generic care says all Bettas can't be with any other Bettas. But in reality, if you have a large enough tank with the proper parameters, you can have multiple females bc they only fight if they have to.

    • @scottnixon2899
      @scottnixon2899 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes, but I recently saw a TH-cam video were one type of new bettas can be kept together without the males fighting each other...

    • @ingeniouspixie
      @ingeniouspixie 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@scottnixon2899 cool! I wonder if there will be massive backlash against that, too? 🙄

    • @aliencommander632
      @aliencommander632 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@scottnixon2899 there are wild species that can live communally, betta chanoidese is one and very pretty, Domestic Splendens even sorority tanks can and will most likely fail. Always have backup plans ready

  • @gigihogan9348
    @gigihogan9348 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    you’re one of my favorites. anyone could make videos on keeping reptiles, or really any animal, but it’s so clear who actually cares about them. when it comes down to it the best life you can give a captive animal is going to be so similar to their natural habitat. you do your research and know you stuff. proud of you for sticking to what you know. keep it up Adam!!!

  • @tarantulacollective
    @tarantulacollective 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    needs more substrate (that's a tarantula joke)

  • @CrazyDogLadySky
    @CrazyDogLadySky 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Great video. I was on Geeky Geckos and was defending you there with some if these same points you made. Thank you for all your work and passion!

    • @adamolin6252
      @adamolin6252 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      GGC should even be mentioned it’s like Valdemort

  • @staceyroberts3468
    @staceyroberts3468 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    You go boy 😝👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼. You are so real and don’t mind putting it out there!!! That’s why we follow you!

  • @NewEnglandReptile
    @NewEnglandReptile 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I think you are a great representation of our Hobby and we are lucky you
    Have you buddy!!! Keep up
    Your wonderful content!

    • @WickensWickedReptiles
      @WickensWickedReptiles  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thank you! Just doing my best to take care of these animals the way they are meant to be. 😃

  • @dmont6956
    @dmont6956 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Wickens man great job! Best response! I knew you were coming back with 🔥 loved it! Nothing but love and respect!

  • @caseysilva6919
    @caseysilva6919 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I absolutely love this set up and did not bat an eye when you put 6 females of the same size together. Cohabitation should not be done by everyone, but if you know what you are doing and keep and eye on them, then do it. Social media can be great, but sometimes it's just downright awful.

  • @67neeley
    @67neeley 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I want to say this is amazing. I love the fact you made this and had shown how you keep them. I'm nearing 40 years old and have been keeping them this,since my teens when I researched for a school paper!

  • @jasondillow848
    @jasondillow848 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Adam, thanks for your maturity in dealing with this as well as the further clarification on the setup. Looking forward to the update video on their progress.

  • @RyanEvans1228
    @RyanEvans1228 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love the way you addressed this. I've been following your content for years. I know your love for animals. I would never assume you did this project haphazardly or without ample knowledge and research. Anytime you get haters, that just means you are doing something they can't, and SUCCEEEDING! Keep up the good work. Much love from Florida

  • @HappyFrogVivarium
    @HappyFrogVivarium 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dude you nailed it all! Everyone's an expert on social media because they know someone who knows someone that "it" happened too.

  • @kanebatchelor3114
    @kanebatchelor3114 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It’s a tale as old as time, there is no “one size fits all” in terms of care for any animal, period.
    Properly observing animal behaviours, and taking the time that requires, is worth far more then any set of “requirements” posted anywhere, by anyone, ever. 👍🏽

  • @natashaswift5900
    @natashaswift5900 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Very well said. I never doubted you for a minute. Your animals have always done well, and I look forward to more content!

  • @Kluleess
    @Kluleess 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Adam, WOW, way to go! Calm, cool and well delivered.

  • @springbonnie321
    @springbonnie321 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have loads of respect for how you handled this, honestly. I personally didn't understand why you cohabbed leopard geckos but figured you had your reasons, you had your research. I was right. I respect this response a lot. Good work.

  • @Another4o4
    @Another4o4 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Animal husbandry is an active endeavor that requires the flexibility of practices that can arise from learning and experience. Thank you for defending this stance and putting out there the importance of doing it in a way that maintains the safety and health of the animals. As always, you're spreading the good word. Appreciate you brother.

  • @yuritzyhernandez9435
    @yuritzyhernandez9435 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great response video! Informative and respectful 👏

  • @Ruchiha1129
    @Ruchiha1129 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You handled this so well, with respect and grace! 💕 And I just could be happier that you know you can just grow from this experience and now you know you have some true fans !

  • @carriegee1610
    @carriegee1610 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how well you take things like this in your stride, stand your ground and have actual research behind why you do what you do. I’m definitely not unsubscribing. Appreciate you! 💚

  • @KookumBee
    @KookumBee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is very well spoken I’m so glad you were able to explain your reasons why you did what you did.

  • @aqua.scape69
    @aqua.scape69 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Your the best Adam. Thank you for standing your ground brother. 🙌🙌 I agree with you 100%

  • @guinness0423
    @guinness0423 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This right here! ❤❤❤ Thank you for all of your videos and everything you do for the reptile community!

  • @davidarden6942
    @davidarden6942 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Glad to see you standing behind this even though you got some backlash. Love your videos and I’m not going anywhere as a subscriber. I’ve learned a lot from your channel.

  • @justinking5109
    @justinking5109 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Beautifully put. I am a firm believer in you and your practices and this is no different. Well done

  • @HissyFitPetTherapy
    @HissyFitPetTherapy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I totally support you Adam! I re-upped my Patreon and as soon as I can budget it in will be doing the $50 to be able to get your excellent one on one support for my own TH-cam channel. Never doubted you, you’re a class act!

  • @robhutchanimation
    @robhutchanimation 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I am not against cohabbing. I'm not even against cohabbing different species.
    I disagree with your idea of 20 gallons being suitable for 1 leo. It's a very old and out of date size. BUT for the sake of the argument, I'll grant you 20g per leo.
    Using your metric of 20g per leo (per your previous video), 120g for 6 leos is 6X the space which seems correct, however, your calcs are based on your minimum size metric and ignoring the fact that your floor space is not 6X the size of a 20 gallon. It's closer to 3X the floor space, assuming you're using a 20g long.
    You're not utilizing the entire enclosure. At bare minimum, if you were going to do 6 leos in this space, you should use the whole thing. Spray foam up the walls, add ledges, tunnels and hides all the way up the back and sides. Full custom background man.
    For 6 leos, go well beyond the minimum recommendation per gecko. Had you gone for at least a 6x3x3 or better yet 8x4 footprint with custom background loaded with ledges and tunnels, then you would likely have started up a proper conversation.
    Honestly, the first video felt like you knew it would cause controversy but arrogantly shrugged it off for views. Emphasis on that's how it felt to me, not that it was necessarily what you were thinking.
    Even with the knowledge of leos living in colonies or pseudo colonies, your defence in this video doesn't hold enough merrit when putting such a high number of leos in a small footprint.
    Because I feel like I may get flack from your fans regarding my experience, I've had reptiles for almost 30 years, and worked with everything from small geckos, up to crocodilians, large pythons and monitor lizards. My current leo is 19 years old in a 48x18x18inch enclosure, fully bioactive. He was in a 4x2x2 but it was broken when we moved.

    • @mpk6664
      @mpk6664 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      All of this ^
      The issue isn't cohabbing, it's putting six geckos in a space that can't be fully utilized. It's 120 gallons in theory, but not in practice. Leopard geckos are mostly terrestrial, they need more space than is provided in a 4x2x2.

    • @jadiebunny8563
      @jadiebunny8563 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Halfway through and he hasn’t mentioned sanitizing the yard debris. I’d rather not give my baby parasites when it is so easy to prevent it.

    • @robhutchanimation
      @robhutchanimation 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @jadiebunny8563 In the original video, he clearly states he didn't sanitize in any way beyond knowing the stuff doesn't have pesticides on it.
      Seems like an insane thing to do when you have 100 animals. That's a good way to get a mite infestation or any number of parasites/ diseases.
      Yeah, maybe no pesticides, but how many wild animals have pissed and crapped on that spot? You have no idea.

    • @jadiebunny8563
      @jadiebunny8563 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Exactly. Surface clean is not clean. A good solid low temp bake will kill the microbes and parasites. I was surprised this video didn’t address this point too.
      I think gallons are more appropriate for fish and birds that use vertical space. Land animals should use square feet. The habitat may have plenty of hides but that doesn’t mean it isn’t overcrowded. He talks about leopard geckos living in colonies but I didn’t hear a definition of a colony.

    • @mpk6664
      @mpk6664 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jadiebunny8563 The paper he mentioned refers to "loose colonies." Whatever that means.
      Also, yeah, he didn't sanitize anything he put in there. I'm not quite sure why someone would do that because that's a surefire way to introduce brown recluse eggs into your house. Ask me how I know. 🤦‍♀️

  • @skylerlewis91
    @skylerlewis91 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have two female leopard geckos in a 120 gallon tank. I’ve had NO issues. Multiple humid & dry hides, water bowls, food bowls, basking spots. They’re about 6 months apart in age. They’re in my living room & I check them everyday. I often find them together in a humid hide.

  • @4N6CyGirl
    @4N6CyGirl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I missed the Tiktok, and I'm glad I did. Interestingly, I had leopard geckos about 25 years ago. It was my first ever reptile. I started with 1 and then fell in love with a second (both females). At that time - nothing advised against keeping them in same sex pairs! I had 2 for about 10 years! When I got back into reptiles a year ago, I was shocked when I read that they "had" to be kept separate.
    I now have 2 females together, with 2 humid hides, 2 warm hides, and 2 cool hides. When they were babies, I had to do supervised feeding and feed separately because 1 was a much better "hunter." That is the only problem I've had. I had a 2nd setup ready if needed, but they are still foing fine.
    The only thing I didn't like about your wnclosure was it wasn't aesthetically pleasing to me - but that is just my personal preference!
    Thanks for all your informational content!

  • @Yfyffuuggugu
    @Yfyffuuggugu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Nice job bro way to hold your ground against all the people that were told they should be mad

  • @tipping_scales
    @tipping_scales 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I've watched a lot of response videos to drama on YT and this was hands down the best. Even as a stand alone episode this was really good. Very well done man

    • @Tarras.Snake.Treasures
      @Tarras.Snake.Treasures 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I totally knew Adam would come through with a legit explanation! I absolutely agree that people were “told to be mad.” And it was by a very popular person that has some power that I feel that people are afraid to piss off. Do some of these people even realize how much they act like sheep??!! This whole thing pissed me off. Rant over.

    • @Thebeetleguy
      @Thebeetleguy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I totally agree. I've been watching Adam for nearly as long as I've been in the hobby and he's pretty much always been reliable and collected. I watched your video before Adam's response came out and I thought that you were also very well informed and non-biased. It was great.
      Thanks to you and Adam for everything ya'll do!

  • @alicewarren26
    @alicewarren26 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love and respect you so much Adam, for standing up for yourself and speaking your truth and so much more beyond even your animal care that is prestigious.

  • @Kellllppp
    @Kellllppp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    100% well said Adam. Proud of you for not backing down to the BS and proving again why you’re one of the best in the hobby!

    • @WickensWickedReptiles
      @WickensWickedReptiles  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I’ll fight until the end if the data supports my argument

  • @moshack
    @moshack 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I have also been keeping groups of Leopard geckos together for over 10 years. Never had a problem. I know who can get along and who can’t in the first 10 minutes together. Normally only siblings anyway. I also have some I keep separate. Case by case. Just like people. Common sense. Just give them enough of everything and they will work everything out.

  • @aidandressel6884
    @aidandressel6884 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Question for you Adam (if you see this): what are the benefits of cohabbing leopard geckos? You did a great job explaining why cohabbing can work and be free of issues, but is there any net benefit aside from saving space? Replicating wild behavior is always the goal of course, but as keepers we try to expose our animals to eustress and not distress. We know there is potential for distressing situations when cohabbing, but what are some of the beneficial eustress factors? If there is no pro behind the mountain of potential cons, why risk it at all?

  • @kiki29073
    @kiki29073 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Adam, so happy that you spoke abiut all of this and not afraid to do so,

  • @Greg_Rock
    @Greg_Rock 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I think the only issue was that it was 4 feet long instead of 8 feet long, because of the inability for them to run away from others if there is the event of a violent scuffle between the geckos.

    • @hectic_scales
      @hectic_scales 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I loved his video on this explanation it seem that 4 feet has been working in this specific example and if it was 8 feet then the argument that it would be best to keep them in a 12 or 16 foot tank however if I were to set something up like this I might go for 8 feet or 12.

  • @exskoozme
    @exskoozme 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    Thank you for the clarification! Sometimes I get so upset by the willfully offended, but it is good to see you take it in stride. I appreciate you!

    • @WickensWickedReptiles
      @WickensWickedReptiles  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I appreciate you! Thanks for keeping a level head.

    • @Pewpro
      @Pewpro 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe get a little thicker skin or maybe some more willpower over your fragility. Seriously.

    • @TexasFishing628
      @TexasFishing628 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Grow some balls, your trans asz needs it

    • @PaperCityReptiles
      @PaperCityReptiles 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@WickensWickedReptiles it’s sad that you had to make this video. I have said since I became a reptile content creator myself that I wouldn’t let the Karen’s change the way I do things. The echo chamber of rage is so toxic in this community and it’s so disheartening. You are someone I respect and look up to in the way of care. I will say it loud and clear. Your 15 years of experience doing Leo colonies counts as field studies to me and it goes without saying that you’ve done great. 🖕🏻the haters.

    • @calebvance3325
      @calebvance3325 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WickensWickedReptilesI work at petsmart and all the thing I learn for your channel/videos I use to educate people on reptiles I also very much so direct to come to your channel to also learn more!!

  • @tammyfrancis7856
    @tammyfrancis7856 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love that you said “are you mad, are you mad because you were told to be mad?”

  • @SeverusSnape12345
    @SeverusSnape12345 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I completely agree with you on this. You definitely know what you're doing and your geckos are very happy and healthy.

  • @JoeyBcollects
    @JoeyBcollects 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I really didn't think what you did with the geckos was a problem. You definitely seem to know what youre doing. So it wasnt a worry for me.
    I would say just based on the post i saw from the company that sponsored you, it probably would've been a better idea to let them know you were going to do a "potentially controversial" video with their product, so you don't lose their support in the future.
    Again, i didn't doubt your knowledge about keeping them together. I think its a really fascinating, cool idea, and its awesome to know that it is possible to do things like that, when someone has the proper knowledge and space for it.

    • @TheCharleseye
      @TheCharleseye 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      To be fair, this is far from the first cohab video he has done. If a company doesn't actually look at a channel's content before offering a sponsorship, that's on them. I doubt Adam considered this to be a controversial video, since it's just more of the same content he has been doing for years.

    • @puddsmax863
      @puddsmax863 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also think the enclosure didn't have the extra hides and water spaces he showed in this video in the original video. I could be misremembering but I don't remember seeing those in the original video. Maybe I should've assumed he'd put those in there but he didn't really show that in the original video. 😅

    • @JoeyBcollects
      @JoeyBcollects 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheCharleseye I don't think it's controversial, that's why I put it in quotation marks. But that's also a fair point.

    • @Gdn11
      @Gdn11 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@TheCharleseye nah, consent is important

    • @TheCharleseye
      @TheCharleseye 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Gdn11 We're not talking about sex. We're talking about sponsorships. If a company sponsors a channel that features various videos about, say, beer and then acts indignant when that channel makes a video about beer, the sponsor is the @$$hole, not the content creator. The creator was under the impression the sponsor knew what they were paying for. I mean, one would either have to be deeply stupid or completely disingenuous to sponsor _this_ channel and then pull their sponsorship over that particular video. I don't think they're stupid. I think they've gotten whatever business off Adam that they could and now they're playing it up for the crowd. Slimy like politicians.

  • @DerpyRandomm
    @DerpyRandomm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If you are reading this I wanted to tell you that you are beautiful and you should always believe it

  • @creepyoldlady2995
    @creepyoldlady2995 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Been a fan for years. I started watching your channel when I was deciding whether or not I could properly care for a lizard. My crested gecko, Noggin, is 2 years old now and is healthy, playful, curious and sometimes downright affectionate. Thanks for helping me prepare her home ahead of time and for all the fun I've had since May 2022. 😊

  • @Twitch-Spep3cb1
    @Twitch-Spep3cb1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love the great vids Adam, keep up the great work!

  • @troythevis4456
    @troythevis4456 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That enclosure is sick, great job setting it up, it looks great. 🐍 🦎

  • @ChandraOrr
    @ChandraOrr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love this kind of "controversy". It's how we move forward and become better reptile stewards. We don't have all the answers, and much of the information in the hobby is based on information that dates back to the 90s and the original AOL/Compuserve pages covering these animals. If we hope to move forward, we need to try new things and continue to attempt a replication of their wild habits. Respect. This is why I always return to your channel. You don't fall into dogmatic rhetoric, but keep experimenting to findthe best care for our herp friends.

  • @AlishaBoome
    @AlishaBoome 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked how you displayed the information clearly and talked people through their main concerns! people get scared of what we don’t understand. :)

  • @valeriemcdaniel1996
    @valeriemcdaniel1996 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was a great response video and I'm glad you did it. I knew you knew you stuff.

  • @bug6296
    @bug6296 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    just because an animal lives in pairs/groups in the wild doesn't necessarily mean that's how they should be kept in captivity. this is very nuanced, so please let me explain.
    there's a huge difference between truly social species and species who live together out of necessity. a great example of this are small desert hamsters (commonly referred to as dwarf hamsters in the pet trade). robrovskis in particular are often observed in the wild living in male/female pairs or family groups. however, studies have shown that in captivity, their stress levels are much higher when they're housed together. this is because, although they live together in the wild, they're not actually social. they don't get mental/emotional enrichment from living together. the benefit of living together for them is safety, as they're very small prey animals, and reproduction.
    because we're not able to flawlessly replicate the conditions of the wild (and we don't necessarily want to - like we don't want to have natural predators living with our pets), we need to be open to adjusting our care based on behavioral differences we see in captive vs wild animals.
    I don't know if there have been any studies done on stress levels of leopard geckos who are vs aren't cohabitated. that is something I'd be very interested to see. however, I do know that when housed alone, captive leopard geckos do not observe the same behaviors as a truly social species that's housed alone. for animals that are actually social, when they're housed alone the majority of the time they will exhibit extremely high levels of stress that can manifest in the form of excess aggression, boredom, depression, or even self-mutilation, depending on the species and individual animal.
    so in my opinion, right now, with current research, there's no reason to cohabitate leopard geckos except human benefit. and I don't believe in doing risky things with our animals that have no benefits for them.
    and could I be wrong? yes absolutely. maybe in five years someone will come out with a research paper proving that captive leopard geckos have lower stress levels when they're appropriately housed in colonies. but this is just a reminder that pretty much nothing with husbandry is simple. just because you see someone else doing something doesn't mean you should do it, too. and just because you've been doing something for a long time and haven't had an issue yet doesn't necessarily mean it's the right thing to do.

  • @brendagrant580
    @brendagrant580 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Funny I never saw anything really wrong with your previous video but boy did you open a can of worms....lol....kudos to you for sticking to your guns. I like your videos especially since you are Canadian based (I am here on the west coast) and love that you explain to us that you don't need to go out and spend hundreds of dollars to buy the "reptile" items and that you can do it for less money and make the reptiles healthy and happy . I have 2 females that have been together since babies and the have a big enclosure (24Lx18Wx18H) with lots of spaces to hide and climb. They are also in an area that we can monitor them closely....most of the time they are together...very rarely do I see them apart. I tried to separate them once and they went off of their food and started to lose weight so back in together they went....I have even seen them hunt together.

  • @shaggyd485
    @shaggyd485 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You keep doing what you do, Adam! You have more experience with these animals than the haters, I trust that your colony of leopard geckos would thrive.
    I think that most of the haters are just trolls who love spreading the canceled culture on the internet.

  • @FuzzyAngyl...yesAngel
    @FuzzyAngyl...yesAngel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm in your corner Adam! I find your videos very instructive and i also find that you are an expert in the field. Don't diminish your skills!!!!!! Love u ❤❤❤

  • @Hornedfrogenthusiast
    @Hornedfrogenthusiast 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Anybody who says it's wrong or cruel to cohabitate Leopard Geckos doesn't know the first thing about the social structure of these animals. If one of these people has a scientific paper that says otherwise please link it for me (I would be highly interested), but for now, I'm very much on your side. Keep up the great content!🐍

  • @hannahbrady2149
    @hannahbrady2149 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thank you for handling this so maturely. Most people wouldn’t. This is why I follow you for information and just genuine entertainment… Its nice to have someone to watch that is authentically themselves and is willing to politely debate and give actual facts. Will never stop watching your channel! 😎🤘🏼

  • @midnightstorme05
    @midnightstorme05 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was waiting to hear your response to the criticism and was not disappointed. I appreciate your factual in depth explanation and hope others will open their minds to new information.
    Your leopard gecko care guide is what I followed when I got my first leopard gecko and she is doing phenomenal (alone because I'm a beginner).
    Keep doing what you're doing and the right people will stand behind you!

  • @ShunkahaWanagi
    @ShunkahaWanagi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing job Adam. Was not worried about the backlash you were receiving for a second. 🙏🏽💯

  • @pre.jeweled
    @pre.jeweled 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love that people care about animals and I hope that never goes away, but I wish they’d put all their rage and effort into actual animal abusers.

  • @Milquetoast702
    @Milquetoast702 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Very well played- Rebecca works for Arcadia. Seemed petty and passive aggressive. First of all I do think you care about your animals. Even if i accepted what you said on cohabbing Leopard geckos together. I have already seen too many people not able to care for ONE properly. You are an influencer and lets just say it IS ok - I dont think there is enough research to say its safe - if it was then this would NOT even be controversial. SO as an influencer I just do not think you should promote this as some great idea. Not many of us are as skilled as yourself. Also for those reading this comment I have watched Rebecca for years - she is very knowledgeable and she is not a clout chaser. I promise you she could care less about likes or subscribes. She generally cares about animals. I think Adam does care too but pushes more boundaries. It’s just a difference of opinions. Still will watch you Adam. Have a good vacay.

    • @WickensWickedReptiles
      @WickensWickedReptiles  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The passive aggressive part: this video was recorded before her video came out

    • @Milquetoast702
      @Milquetoast702 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WickensWickedReptiles ok I accept that.

    • @Bigunce69
      @Bigunce69 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Milquetoast702he’s not trying to make other people Cohab leopard geckos, did you even watch the video?

  • @Yu_cute155
    @Yu_cute155 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are the GOAT by taking your time and addressing the situation!!!

  • @jamiedobie9665
    @jamiedobie9665 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I looked at my 90gallon back10 years now and put 3 leopard geckos in it with tons of hides and rocks. I always found them in a pile in one hide. I’m glad you made this video and proved how your doing would is “safe”

  • @makomarquis
    @makomarquis 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This was the nicest way to tell people to kick rocks I've seen in a long time. Love the content bud.

  • @tortoisemoon
    @tortoisemoon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Your prior video was blatantly lazy. You got a free-to-you enclosure, and told people they could set up a habitat for 6 animals very cheaply and without overthinking anything.
    In this video, you detail the number of electric appliances used to maintain this habitat, who's total would not be cheap to buy, initially, nor wouls the monthly cost in electricity be cheap.
    You claim a "120 gallon" habitat, of which, generously, 60 gallons is useable to the geckos as an enriched environment.
    Are your bricks and sticks secured to the floor, the walls, and/or each other? This was also left minimally addressed in your initial video.
    This is being spun as a cohabitation debate. With what you explained andshowed in the first video vs. this video, the first video is by your own standards, inadequate care for the 6 leopard geckos, and would not be nearly as cheap or easy to set up as initially presented.

  • @anthonysaitta2421
    @anthonysaitta2421 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hell yeah man. Good for you Adam, keep killing it like you do brutha 🤙🤙

  • @broderrickbanner664
    @broderrickbanner664 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I knew this video of coming! I knew you were knowledgeable but I do appreciate the clarification! Please don't let the back lash dishearten you. Keep doing what you're doing and spreading knowledge!

  • @dr.dickheadjohnson
    @dr.dickheadjohnson 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yeah but you have been giving misinformation for years you DO get backlash that's bsyou just delete it, because I dont even watch your videos because of your misinformation. Dude this isn't new you need to retire talking about animals online🎉

    • @WickensWickedReptiles
      @WickensWickedReptiles  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Your TH-cam handle is accurate eh…

    • @sneis95
      @sneis95 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@WickensWickedReptilesvery mature Adam. Just again proving that you can't take criticism...

  • @Wpsreptiles
    @Wpsreptiles 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video man! Excellent rebuttal!

  • @bkm2797
    @bkm2797 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So important to clear the air when there is a misunderstanding, and Adam, you are the best at this. Great job and lots of information (15 years) to take advantage of. Thanks Adam, see you soon!🦎💕👍

  • @authenticthreads
    @authenticthreads 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this video! So necessary! ❤❤❤
    I’ve been keeping herps for nearly 30 years, 10 of that professionally. It is absolutely true that care guides have to be written for the beginner. Too many choices or intermediate husbandry techniques and accidents happen, too often with dire consequences.

  • @xAxanthicDreamsx
    @xAxanthicDreamsx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for clearing things up! Good video :)

  • @revol2933
    @revol2933 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good to see that you actually addressed this topic 👍

  • @LaBelleGeckos
    @LaBelleGeckos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for how you have responded to the poop storm.
    Keeping reptiles, or really any animals has evolved from where we started years ago.
    I appreciate your response with information and reasoning.

  • @kevinconnerhope8264
    @kevinconnerhope8264 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are my Inspiration! With your videos i buy my first reptiles and learn a lot of things! I will support you and i will watch every video! Thank you!

  • @flockofffarm8851
    @flockofffarm8851 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very tasteful response to fall out caused by the misinformed to your original video! 👏

  • @ConfidentCritters
    @ConfidentCritters 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This was a really good response video. I saw a video about this yesterday so I’m glad you stood your ground on this. I use to keep two female Leo’s together in a 4x2x2 several warm hides several humid hides etc never had any issues but always got back lash on doing it. I think if you haven’t had any issues in 15 years it’s probably fine 😂

  • @j.morrison1866
    @j.morrison1866 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude, you rock. I love the way you handled this!!!! Kudos!

  • @learning2667
    @learning2667 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Adam I am so glad for this video I think the world of you and your content

  • @caroleparias6197
    @caroleparias6197 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Appreciate your mature response to the drama.