Milwaukee Packout Drawers - I switched from the DeWalt Tough System 2.0, Find Out Why!
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- I switched from DeWalt Tough System 2.0 to the Milwaukee Packout System! In this video I talk about why I switched, and the benefits of the Milwaukee system. Having used both I'm confident you'll find this helpful if your making the decision on which to buy. Thanks for watching!
Here's direct links to these items on Amazon if you're ready to dive in!
3 Drawer Unit:
www.amazon.com...
2 Drawer Unit:
www.amazon.com...
Dolly:
www.amazon.com...
Medium Toolbox:
www.amazon.com...
Previous video on the DeWalt Tough System 2.0:
• DeWalt Tough System 2....
Welcome to the pack out world 🌎👍🏽
Thanks!
I really like my Packout Drawers. I haven't had the Dewalt, but drawers in a stack are for sure the way to go in my opinion. It's nice not to have to unstack to get to the bottom.
Appreciate the Video 👍
Totally agree!
I got Ridgid's new 2.0 drawer unit the other day for $119. I can put the roller hander on it and keep it at the bottom and still have a work surface with a $40 box on top of it. The rest of the boxes/crates get unstacked after wheeling them in. Boxes are also quite a bit lighter than drawer units and weight adds up. Drawers are nice but when you can get 3 boxes for the price of one drawer unit well..... yeah.
I was Dewalt for years but totally Packout now. The versatility is amazing, and I have mounted them in the shop and on my habitat wagon we use on the farm to repair just about all projects from fencing to new platform construction.
I'm there with you! Thanks for watching
Thanks for all the information, i have been looking at the pack-out drawers for a while now.
Thanks for watching! I fought against buying them for a long time. Should have given in sooner.
I'm building the exact same setup. Building a dolly for myself but I can't use it until I give my brother his on his birthday. September 12 can't come soon enough. Lol Good job on making the switch. My bro will be making the exact same transition soon.
I've thought about building the dolly myself too. I know Insider Carpenter has a good design that works with s standard moving hand truck.
@@ChestnutRidgeWorkshop that's actually where the idea first came from. Drawers on the bottom. Big sealed basket on top. Three inch casters to wheel around the site. Big dolly for stairs and rough terrain. Mobile and accessible.
@@andycorneil4657 sweet! Let me know how the dolly turns out.
@@ChestnutRidgeWorkshop inside carpenter gave me the original idea. I ended up going with Mike's Woodshop design because it was a much lighter. Was a fun build and makes moving my tools around the build site a snap. Plus my bro loved his gift.
The DeWalt drawers are readily available and on sale at the big box stores now.
Thanks for the video. Im about $2K into the toughsystem and it’s really made me question brand loyalty. Dewalt has so dropped the ball here. I’m seriously considering the packout swap and it won’t end there.
I share your pain! They really need to step it up if they expect to retain any tough system users. Thanks for watching!
Ouch! I’m in deep with Ridgid with NO REGRETS. I did purchase the 2.0 and returned it the next day. It wasn’t worth the money imho.
I’m definitely going to marry my Ridgid to packout. That’s the beauty of the packout. You can actually do that, perhaps make a plate to marry your existing system to packout if you decide to continue to purchase storage boxes or drawers etc. It could be done, but one box needs to be the sacrificial lamb, so use the cheapest one for that purpose. Crate seems to be the most logical, I believe
I was a dewalt guy I got everything from screwdrivers,hand blades, bits,drill,impact,hacksaw,torque gun,grinder,blower, I was also the only one with the 9.0 flex and yeah the 2.0 pack out my friend had the Milwaukee pack out they both looked great. But the 2.0 had to be kept inside bcuz if u wet it water goes threw. Then I switch over I got everything again all the tools plus more. Now I don’t fck with Dewalt they have not brought out anything else for the 2.0 I now own 2 Milwaukee packout with drawers and like 7 different sizes of boxes and crate
@@ChestnutRidgeWorkshop Great Video
@@kiwimike3940 Thanks for watching! appreciate it!
I'll agree that Milwaukee's StackOut is really good. Tried to get/Buy my old Snap On two piece with side box back but wasn't impressed by the price he wanted. Saw this ingenious Pack Out design and was smitten. Asked again if he would sell me back but he wanted to keep it. So, For a fraction of the cost I'm enjoying the module-lairity/Mobility, And the custom design of this instead. Thanks for your thoughts and review.. Peace!
Thanks for watching, and glad you like the PackOut stuff. I've only added more since making the video.
Glad you're liking your new system. For my application DeWalt seems like a good fit. DeWalt has a new 3 drawer system on back order for the DeWalt 2.0 tough system. The drawers are thinner.
Thanks for watching! Yes DeWalt is hard at work making their system better. Lots of new stuff coming from them!
Come on DEWALT!!! Step it up!!
Great video. It makes me more confident in my purchase as a weekend warrior.
Great to hear! Thanks for watching!
I just watched both vids and this came full circle
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching!
I own both Milwaukee and dewalt tools. I went with Milwaukee packout because it seems better long term use. Fact is my tools all get along so they both go into my packout. Hope you enjoy the packout!
I love them so far! Thanks for watching.
I thought the Milwaukee's were sealed? I use them in the back of my open trucks and don't have any issue. OR... is it that moisture can seep in? they are not entirely "hermitically" sealed. ? (If I used that word correctly) LOL
The Milwaukee have the same water resistant seal most of the storage boxes have. Plus nobody has the different boxes that Milwaukee does. Now years later every company is just copying Milwaukee. Yes they have different looks and that but nobody has done a long term used every day for years comparison.
@@wiredperformance6130 My Japanese wife, SOMEHOW, lost all of my engineering tools, packed in Milwaukee, including almost every power tool out of the back of my truck this week. $4,000 at least. So i'm starting over.
@@wiredperformance6130 excellent commentary.... I'm an engineer. My life story is..... GETTING COPIED.
I went with the Klein Tools Modbox. Even though they are the heaviest on the market, it also has the most flushed out add-ons on the market. Milwaukee will get there, but it's going to take time.
@@Ranger7Studios Cool, thanks for sharing. I haven't talked to anyone using those yet. I'll take a look!
I'm not even remotely surprised to see someone switching from ToughSystem to Packout. I've been a DeWalt guy for just over 10 years and have at least one of every single 1.0 and 2.0 ToughSystem box along with a large selection of XR cordless tools.
A colleague invested in a number of Packout boxes last year, and now has a lot of the drawer units as well. They are hands down a better design than the DeWalt system. DeWalt have been asleep at the wheel for years now, not just on storage solutions but also on their range of cordless tools. Every time I went to buy a new DeWalt box over the past couple of years, I've wondered if it was finally time to throw in the towel and switch to Packout. Then the 2.0 range came along and I thought I'd give them a second chance. The TS 2.0 has definitely got improvements, but in my opinion the Packout range is still better designed and implemented. I think 2023 will see me gradually switch across to Milwaukee for on-site mobile storage and I'll probably keep the DeWalt boxes in my workshop.
I'm with you! My dewalt boxes are now my drywall kit, and that's it.
Welcome to the family
@Theaverageguy-xy3qb Thanks! Great to be here!
I have the Rigid and the stacking is no problem , I just have a small scaffold I put the boxes on and also I use the scaffold at times. The only problem is on a smaller job or apartment, unstacking and putting you boxes on the floor is both time consuming and it would be better to not have to spread them out and unstack them.. You'd think the engineers would field test them on a job site, and going from each customers job site , etc.
Field testing, what a concept! If only they all did that. Thanks for watching!
@@ChestnutRidgeWorkshop The drawers would seem to help on being able to get the tools out in a small apartment/home, without having to unstack and now your all spread out in someone's home.
I used to do a lot of rental maintenance work, repairs , remodeling, and didn't like having to unstack ..
Thanks for the review. I'm heading out to look at them.
Good vids man. I gotta disagree a bit though. The Milwaukee is way more expensive than the DeWalt 2.0 at least here in Australia. The DW three box trolley you had in your previous video is $370 here in Australia. Only one of those Milwaukee pack out boxes is $360. Meaning I’d have to fork out $1000 for the same amount. Based on that I’m going with DW.
Wow those prices are crazy! I'd buy the DW to at those rates for sure. Thanks for watching!
Also, DeWalt has an issue with making a product cohesive. The drawer system is not the same size as the other boxes. And Dewalt boxes are not stable in the stack
Absolutely yes. They are working on it though, videos coming soon. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Coming from someone that's worked in the field with both and owns the DeWalt 2.0 I'm telling you right now the Milwaukee stuff fails when you get dirt in the little crevices after a while that starts to stick and harder to lock into the DeWalt hasn't failed me in that aspect
Ok good to know! You think sawdust would do the same? Mine don't see dirt, but lots of sawdust for sure.
How long have you had the 2.0 tough system?
@@sergiorodriguez956 about a year. Not really using them anymore.
I actually prefer the way DeWalt latch lock works over Milwaukee, it's so simple and logical and the drawer can be locked in open position, where on Milwaukee you have to open and close that steel lock before or after and the drawer can be sliding open or close when you don't want them to.
Thanks for watching! I'm glad you're happy with your DeWalt drawers.
I agree who wants to do something extra like pulling that stupid metal lock that doesn't slide in smooth
I bought a master lock python for my packouts, perfect lock up.
If you ever have to go up and down stairs, the Tstak is the best choice. If you roll in, roll out, Milwaukee is better.
Draws definitely look better, but that is reflected in the price. A big difference between the two where I live
I'm surprised by the price difference, maybe dewalt went cheaper on their's. Thanks for watching!
I'm considering the drawer system. I noticed the padlock holes when it was announced and that didn't make sense then either. It might make sense if there was at least some metal in there, but as you note, the whole tote is easy to carry off and would be easy to defeat at one's leisure.
I want big wheels and a pull handle like their rolling toolbox but needing to unstack to get inside and the handle not being fully collapsable is a turn-off.
Sounds like you'd be better off getting an "off road" hand cart and making the base adapter to fit it then. I feel your pain, there's never a truly perfect solution. Thanks for watching!
In the UK Packout is up to twice the price of toughsystem 2 so that is a massive deal breaker for me, for example the cheapest currently I can get the toughsystem 2 2 drawer box for 80 pounds,the cheapest I can get the Packout 2 drawer for is 150 pounds
@charlesingram9471 Sounds like the packouts are roughly same price as here. The Dewalt however are much cheaper for you. If they were that different for me I'd probably stick with dewalt too
Great overview, man. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! So glad it was helpful!
I’ve considered buying into packout but the units seem slightly too small for my needs. Wish they were all tough system dimensions at least. Anyone else feel the same?
They are narrower than the tough system stuff. But for me the different drawer size options makes up for it.
At Home Depot the drawer sets have the dividers in them. Make sure to get a set that has them within…
I believe they all come with one package of dividers. If you want enough for both drawers, it needs extra. Unless Milwaukee has changed something since I got mine.
I'm always curious about what you do when you get to the jobsite and you need to haul your tools up a bunch out stairs. Do you unpack the boxes and have to carry each one up individually?
That's a rare occurance for me, but if I do I bring a moving dolly and use that to carry the stack up the stairs, leaving the Milwaukee dolly attached. There are a few really good videos out there on how to make your own dolly base that works very well with a standard moving dolly.
Drawers are nice but expensive. Ridgid pro gear 2.0 has drawer units that you can put on the bottom of your stack and still have a work surface with a $40 box on top of it. Just picked up a drawer unit and grabbed another medium box for 1/3rd the price of the drawers.
That's very interesting. I'm gonna take a look at those. Thanks for watching!
I just bought 2 of the 2 drawer Packouts. Plan to put Milwaukee Nail Guns in them: 15, 16, 16, and 18/23. Should fit them all in 2 boxes
Nice! Enjoy setting them up!
I rather take the opinion of someone actually use it instead of being bribed to say it's good(you can tell by a wall of same brand tool in the back, duh). thanks
I tried to justify going the cheaper alright route but in the end and this is not about being a fanboy it’s the truth but hands down Milwaukee has a lot more to offer the best right now hands down!
Totally agree! I've searched for a long time for a cheaper option, but there's nothing even close.
@@ChestnutRidgeWorkshop when you look at the price and product I guess it’s priced right!
DeWalt Desertion needs it's own wiki article
lol, yes it does!!
Very solid video. Thank you.
Thank you for watching!
DEWALT drawers blow Milwaukee’s out of the water dude. No joke
You gotta use what works for you! As long as it helps the user it's all good.
They should really put gaskets on the drawers.
For the price point I agree. I don't need them, but I'm sure lots of people would love that feature.
I am thinking of the Ryobi, has great amount of stuff and water resistantce as tested with a battery powered pressure washer looked very water resistant
Check them out real good in a store first. Depending on what you're doing with them they might be fine. If your work will really beat on them you might need something stronger.
If you share a jobox on site it keeps people from “borrowing” your tools. Locks work for that. At least for me.
Makes sense for sure. Kinda hard to just walk off with one of those!
I was looking at your setup and trying to see how many boxes I can stack while still being able to use the top of it as well , I'm thinking 3 big boxes and the small one would be the highest I could go , I would like for Milwaukee to come out with a more versatile table top instead of the plain wood top they came out with .
The set of 3 boxes (either 2 or 3 drawer) is about the max height I think. I sometimes throw another small box on top just to move them, or secure it in the trailer, but that feels like I'm pushing the limits.
1:43 Dewalt toolboxes are IP 65. Drawers are not DEWALT ToughSystem WaterSeal Drawers unit is IP54 dust and water resistant,
What more could we ask for? We could ask for them to actually be decently affordable.
Well there is that. :)
I've been thinking on the same setup, I like the new klein tool packout, but I think the drawers is much better. and I belive they made a mistake launching to the market that packout with the cover on the top.
I had no idea klien had come out with something. I'll check it out. Thanks for watching!
@@ChestnutRidgeWorkshop yes the and also today I saw the drawers are coming, but still you don't have the drawers on the very bottom.
I’ve bought two 2 drawer pack outs and I have no need for the dividers. Maybe that’s why they don’t include two sets
Certainly could be. They seem know their market customers that's for sure.
I almost switched but imo dewalt drawers are better and milwaukie not making their drawers weather proof is a deal breaker for me
@hachi-rokuperformancegroup3987 If I needed them to be outdoors at all it would have to be DeWalt for sure. I love these things, but they would NOT work in weather. Thanks for watching!
All dewalt had to do was make toughsystem just a bigger version of tstak I run tstak and I’m stuck with toughsystem for my bigger tools because their is a adapter to put them together
Ya once you're into it it's hard to change anything. Thanks for watching.
There is now. I just bought it a few days ago.
If you wall mount your tool boxes your gonna want dewalt.
If you have a mechanics stack. Milwaukee.
Agreed yes. If I was wall mounting or van racking I would stay with DeWalt
@@ChestnutRidgeWorkshop exactly why I chose the dewalt stack. Cheap multi level parts bins.
Why can’t you wall-mount Milwaukee?
@@aayotechnology you can, but you might as well build yourself a organization wall instead because the packout shelf holds 2 boxes and is $150
The Dewalt holds 5 boxes and is $100.
The Dewalt also can use their bracket arms on 1in square tube to build a modular rack if you dont like their garage or van mount system
It's Milwaukees major failing on a very specific need I have.
I likes the dewalt ds carrier setup better.
It's all about what works for each person. I tried that one and found I liked this better. Thanks for watching!
Yes the advantage of the DeWalt carrier which people overlook is that you can pull any box out, so you don't even need drawers. With Milwaukee if you want a box you have to unstack. A bunch of cheap £15 DS150 boxes works better for me than the drawers. And I can just pull any I want out of the trolley.
@@electronicfury exactly 👍
I have the tough system 2.0 and even though the packout looks great, I can't see my self switching. My coworker has the packout and he complains that his organizer can't hold the same amount of screws as the my dewalt organizers so he had to buy another set of organizers, also i have the trays with the foam inserts and my tools are perfectly organized and easy to find and get to, my coworker says he wishes packout had something similar, because he has to dig through his tools to find what he needs. Last thing, I've had my tough system for 2 years with no issues, my friend had his packout for 7 months and already one of his wheels broke and the latch of one his main boxes broke off as well.
Well I'm glad to hear you don't have to go through the switching pain! If you got a system that works for you that's what matters! Thanks for watching.
Same here my brother, I’m a DeWalt guy for life. Milwaukee tools feel like oversized diodos. I just recently got into drawers.
I tried Tstak specially for the price. They seem to be discontinuing them so not good if I want to keep getting more. Then the packout deal came out, $90 off from a $300 purchase. And I was BLOWN AWAY by the quality. Oh btw I’m a Ridgid tool box owner. Also I retired when COVID came out so I transformed my 16’ trailer into my work shop. But now I’m gonna remove all the plywood compartment I made so I can just store everything into my tool boxes.
I’m planning on hanging everything on the walls so the day I want to upgrade, or sale my trailer all I have to do is stack up and move everything out. Clean “expensive” 🤦🏻♂️ and simple, but well worth it.
Also working on a way to marry my Ridgid tool boxes with my new packout collection. I now have the option to only purchase anything needed when there is a sale, since I’m “retired” I find I’m more busy now doing things I actually ENJOY! I take care of our local park and do handyman work for those who also help our community at no cost to them. Just coffee and a sandwich and it’s cool with me. I now enjoy the gratitude and recognition from the neighbors more then any payday I made in the past. I’m 45 years old and have been fortunate to become free from the rat race!
Advice, invest into rental properties, I now have 4 homes free and clear providing me with a living wage. Work hard and save you money when young, invest and retire young so you can still be productive. And yes, I still drive an old pickup 😂 be wise with your purchases and live within your means. 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
Best of luck to you all, thanks for the video, very relatable to my experience with my new packout. FUCKING LOVE THEM!
Wow this is probably the most useful, kindest, and informative comment ever! I can't possibly do it justice with my reply! Thanks so much for watching, and taking the time to write this. I'm right there with you on everything you said. Working towards getting a rental property going too! The tools, storage, shops, trailers, and general organization is a truly never ending process. As tools evolve, our work flows shift, and we contantly chase efficiency improvements, everything is temporary setup.
@@ChestnutRidgeWorkshop dude! Thank you so much! I was afraid I was rambling on unrelated subjects but I wish us hard working honest guys and gals success. And willing to share with anyone that wishes to listen how to hopefully get there. There are many roads to financial freedom, Real estate was the one that did it for me. It makes me happy when someone thrive in their field.
You are 💯 correct on everything kinda being a temporary setup bc we are constantly chasing that perfect efficiency. (I think I flipped the order of thought) 😂 So instead of building customs storage it best to just go with these stackable system imho. This way we are not attached to the place in which we do our work, but rather be attached to our portable, already organized tools. It’s not the cheapest option but it sure makes your life a lot easier and less complicated. Thanks again for the kind words 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
I just bought the 3 drawers, i feel like the 3’rd drawer needs a bit more Force to Roll In/out, like its scrathing on the sides or something, does anyone Else have This problem? Maybe i just need to return it and get a new one..
I have the exact same issue! I didn't feel it was enough to worry about and I just ignore it. Nothing has failed or broken still, and I can't figure out what causes it. Let me know if you figure it out!
Some say the drawers start to bow on the bottom..
I could see it happening if you had some heavy stuff in there. I've been running mine for quite a while now and have no issues. Even with 2 drills, 2 impacts, and batteries in one drawer, no sagging.
Mine ain’t come with dividers 😑
Definitely contact milwaukee on that.
Doesnt look ideal for in the job site no dolly to pull around
For me there's not a ton of job site use. But when there is I don't use a dolly anyway because it's in finished homes. You can put these on a normal moving dolly.
Shame on Dewalt for making their 1.0 boxes obsolete with the 2.0 and not making them backward compatible. I don't think they are as good as the Rigid or Milwaukee anyway. I have both the Dewalt and Rigid tool box systems and find the Rigid better made but wish I would have gone with the Milwaukee Packout. I have Dewalt 20v tools but many of the Milwaukee 12v tools. They are good for 80% of my work. Judging by the quality of their 12v tools if I wasn't so heavily invested in Dewalt I would have gone with Milwaukee. I have sent in both Dewalt and Milwaukee tools for repair and for me the process was much better with Milwaukee.
Same for me on Thanks for watching!
The vast majority of 1.0 boxes are compatible with 2.0
The only reason why I’m still with dewalt is because I can leave it out in heavy rain and not worry.
Everything else for the storage system Milwaukee does is better.
That is their only edge I think yes. Thanks for watching!
all the packout can be left in the rain except for the drawers, correct?
@@tallswede80 I believe that's correct yes. Just check for seals on anything in question
the dewalt drawers are aloooooot smoother
Yes I agree. I've just had two of the handle latches fail on me, so I'm not a big fan.
At 7:00 you literally can see the 3 stack of drawer cabinets swaying side to side, you actively notice it, and stop moving the cases. 😂 Definitely a disadvantage to setting the drawer cases up in this manner.
Yes I noticed very early they feel a bit flimsy in this stack. I think with a lot of weight, 2 boxes is the limit for stack height. That said, I've been running this setup for several months now and not a single issue.
Dewalt barbie latches big fail. Had packouts since day one been solid. Get em
Agree! I had two of the Dewalts break on me.
How tall are you sir?
Well that's the first time for that question.. 6foot
@@ChestnutRidgeWorkshop 😆 just getting into the pack out system. Plotting on a certain set up. Wanted to gage how high I can go. Thanks
Im sorry to hear you go to the dark side.
lol...the dark side calls me
1:30 DEWALT TOUGHSYSTEM 2.0 Three-Drawer Unit Model # DWST08330
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You switched because you like China better than the USA
Yup, that's exactly what I explained in the video. Thanks for watching.
The US should make better products then
@@inrptn They do!!! China makes crap
@@loucifer4205 Packout isn't crap
@@inrptn No its not because it's not made by China they're made by Keter and made in Israel, North America or Europe I think they make all the boxes for Dewalt, Milwaukee, Craftsman, Ryobi and Ridgid and other companies, the tool companies don't make much money off the tool boxes that's why they cost so much
just take the Milwaukee drawer kit apart and put a tiny bead of flat silicone on the back of the drawer wait 2 days to cure and bam it will be a lot more water proof