Ian just flexing how good he is at what he does. JW, “I want [x] flight and distance” *uses super modified shaft to point its not giving what it should be in shape, distance, and feel* Ian, “yeah use your 5 with a normal shaft and choke down 3/4 an inch” *gives exact distance and flight he wanted.*
@@johnnywundergolf he really is, but you’re no slouch either. I love world of wunder on the callaway page! I always look forward to your comparison stuff. “How Paradym Irons Compare To Apex TCB Irons\\ World Of Wunder” had me wanting to upgrade from my full rogue set to some paradyms.
I’ll still hold the TXG boys in a separate frame of mind from Club Champ. I just don’t equate the elite fitting prowess of these guys with a company with egregious business practices. Such a shame.
Dang just noticed the change. Knew it would happen just didn’t think this quick. Hate for them to get lumped in. CC shoulda been smart enough to know to keep it seperate.
I'm curious what business practices you're referencing? I was thinking about going to them for a fitting at a future time but should I go somewhere else?
@@bh4872 I've had 4 fittings at Club Champion always expecting a better result the next time. Every time I go in and say, if we can, try to stick to the stock shaft offerings to to reduce cost. Every single time, I'm shown a final bill of 2x what it should be. 1. They order shafts and heads separately from the manufacturers and build them custom - meaning you pay for the price of the iron heads + the cost of the shafts for every iron. 2. The "PUR" every iron shaft for $35 per iron shaft. It's a bogus technology that TXG themselves entirely debunked. It's "finding the optimal shaft orientation" but there is zero evidence to support it. So theres another $35 x 7 added to your cost 3. Sales pressure to buy - I've never seen someone so disappointed when I said, "thanks for the fitting, I can buy it a lot cheaper elsewhere". Got 3 follow-up emails with my $1,100 driver quote asking if I was ready to buy yet. Incessant pressure to buy. Club Champ has become nothing more than a glorified sales operation for exorbitantly priced golf clubs. The fitting itself is fine - but buy your clubs elsewhere
Great comparison men, I've seen Johhny before on his Callaway channel, now you know why he is were he is, very knowledgeable and totally got Game going on, no doubt, love his swing, you know when they say effortless but powerful, that's Johhny to me!! Thanks again! I'm trying out the rogue st max Heavenwood, idk man shaft is super long, I think it a 4 wood lenth for 20 degrees loft, but very cool fairway wood!
I know a lot of people upset with the re-brand. However, this is the thing that virtually all small business owners set out to do: create a quality product successful enough in marketing for a given region and selling that business to a larger entity that can help offset the financial liabilities of broadening the area of influence. I would assume that as long as Ian and Mikey are involved the locations formerly known as TXG should retain high levels of quality. Unfortunately, club champion as a whole is so decentralized from what it was originally that some people have had less than ideal experiences. Be happy for Ian and the team. This is a major milestone for all of their hard work and dedication to the craft.
Came here to see some input on the new UW -- which I just bought on a whim as I've always struggled with hybrids (current was TM stealth + 17 with LA Golf shaft) -- the 2024 UW is a winner for me -- but (and its confirmed here) -- the fact that it uses a fairway shaft cut to 41.5 inch length raises concerns about reshafting options (hence why the tipping and length was not "working"" here) -- thankfully I really liked the MMT that it comes with (which I didn't in other clubs) -- so that might have something to do with how Callaway cut/tipped the shaft to pair it with the UW -- I'm gonna to leave as is (I bought a DI 7x to potentially swap) as trying to get the tipping/cutting and therefore swingweight correct on such a major length change could be a challenge -- the UW is an amazing club though for the right player.
A Ventus Blue TR at that! That's crazy! They are already really tip stiff and even Fujikura recommends only tipping if necessary. Being that you're trying to build a club that flies 225 and has adequate spin to stop quickly on the green, probably the 8X TR striaght in would have been OK, but really the Ventus Red 8X would be ideal. The thing about these UWs is that they are not high spinning heads. Even Phil is playing the UW with the Ventus Red 9X.
I definitely want a deep dive into the new Apex Pro, CB, MB, UT and UW line. I'd love to see a combo set fitting with the new line similar to what was done with the new Titleist T-Series.
Is that Triple Diamond 7 wood a tour only? I can’t seem to find one. I love my 7 wood, but if I could lower the spin and flight a little that would be amazing
What are the standard lengths you build fairway woods to? Wunder says his 5 wood is 1/4 inch longer than 7 wood at 41.5. Seems like most OEMs build 5 woods to 42 1/4 or 42.5 now. Even in Ian's custom Taylormade fairway wood video he mentions his 3W is 1/4 inch short at 42.75 and 5 wood 3/4 inch short at 41.5. So that would mean standard is 43 for 3W, 42 1/4 for 5W and 41 1/4 for 7W? It seems to blur the line a lot talking about cutting 5W down or longer 7W, what lengths are we saying it's shorter or longer than?
Can you guys do a review of the garmin r10 and/flight scope mevo compared to the quad for indoor setups. Need to decide on a indoor simulator for the inevitable winter months coming
Hi Ian. In a previous video you mention there is talks about a 7 wood triple diamond. I was wondering do you know if callaway will produce and sell a triple diamond 7 wood. I’m in Australia and have asked the reps and they have not heard about it. Can you help me please.
I think the 2022 UW looks better than the new one. Probably will perform about the same. The new on will have the MMT shafts which I’m not a big fan of.
So I’m looking at getting a UW, but I hit the ball very similar to Johnny (naturally hit a high ball). I use a x-stiff Ventus black TR 70 in my driver and 4 wood. Have a very fast transition, with around a 115-120 club head speed with my driver… would the stock MMT be too soft/go to high for me? Or should I stick with a low launch/low spin shaft? Would like to get the UW to stick rather than roll out a bunch. Thanks in advance!
Hey Hitch... our answer is always going to get fitted. With that said, with your club head speed with the driver, it's nearly a given that stock shaft wouldn't be a great fit for you if you're trying to get the most out of it.
What's the shaft in JW's Apex UT? I'm not recognizing it -- wondering if maybe that's the new Project X Denali, since I think I read they're releasing a hybrid/utility version of that one too?
Love the content! Wish there was just a different between TXG and CC. Maybe combining the names: Club Champion-Tour Experience Same brand of both, just together
So, they ruined the music, AGAIN?! This whole TXG youtube channel has just been the quintessential.....example of breaking something that did not need to be fixed. Lmao. Man...smh...@&@&@...idk...wtf
Ian just flexing how good he is at what he does.
JW, “I want [x] flight and distance” *uses super modified shaft to point its not giving what it should be in shape, distance, and feel*
Ian, “yeah use your 5 with a normal shaft and choke down 3/4 an inch”
*gives exact distance and flight he wanted.*
That’s why he’s the best
@@johnnywundergolf he really is, but you’re no slouch either. I love world of wunder on the callaway page!
I always look forward to your comparison stuff.
“How Paradym Irons Compare To Apex TCB Irons\\ World Of Wunder” had me wanting to upgrade from my full rogue set to some paradyms.
I bought the 17 and 21 degree original UW’s slightly used for great prices. They are phenomenal clubs.
I’ll still hold the TXG boys in a separate frame of mind from Club Champ. I just don’t equate the elite fitting prowess of these guys with a company with egregious business practices. Such a shame.
Dang just noticed the change. Knew it would happen just didn’t think this quick. Hate for them to get lumped in. CC shoulda been smart enough to know to keep it seperate.
Couldn’t agree more. Some people have had good experiences at CC. Not me. Ewww.
Club Champion feels more like used car salesmen than a used car lot does. Terrible people and practices. Total grifters.
I'm curious what business practices you're referencing? I was thinking about going to them for a fitting at a future time but should I go somewhere else?
@@bh4872 I've had 4 fittings at Club Champion always expecting a better result the next time. Every time I go in and say, if we can, try to stick to the stock shaft offerings to to reduce cost. Every single time, I'm shown a final bill of 2x what it should be.
1. They order shafts and heads separately from the manufacturers and build them custom - meaning you pay for the price of the iron heads + the cost of the shafts for every iron.
2. The "PUR" every iron shaft for $35 per iron shaft. It's a bogus technology that TXG themselves entirely debunked. It's "finding the optimal shaft orientation" but there is zero evidence to support it. So theres another $35 x 7 added to your cost
3. Sales pressure to buy - I've never seen someone so disappointed when I said, "thanks for the fitting, I can buy it a lot cheaper elsewhere". Got 3 follow-up emails with my $1,100 driver quote asking if I was ready to buy yet. Incessant pressure to buy.
Club Champ has become nothing more than a glorified sales operation for exorbitantly priced golf clubs. The fitting itself is fine - but buy your clubs elsewhere
Johnny Wunder was blasting that 7 wood. Perfect ball flight
Great comparison men, I've seen Johhny before on his Callaway channel, now you know why he is were he is, very knowledgeable and totally got Game going on, no doubt, love his swing, you know when they say effortless but powerful, that's Johhny to me!! Thanks again! I'm trying out the rogue st max Heavenwood, idk man shaft is super long, I think it a 4 wood lenth for 20 degrees loft, but very cool fairway wood!
JW is a great guest. Guy is jacked up on golf and that gets me jacked up.
Ian’s visible concern when JW said he had an 80g X flex shaft tipped an inch in the UW 😂😂
I know a lot of people upset with the re-brand. However, this is the thing that virtually all small business owners set out to do: create a quality product successful enough in marketing for a given region and selling that business to a larger entity that can help offset the financial liabilities of broadening the area of influence. I would assume that as long as Ian and Mikey are involved the locations formerly known as TXG should retain high levels of quality. Unfortunately, club champion as a whole is so decentralized from what it was originally that some people have had less than ideal experiences.
Be happy for Ian and the team. This is a major milestone for all of their hard work and dedication to the craft.
Watching Johnny hit that 7 wood was UNREAL.....holy shit
I would’ve thought they would go with an adjustable sleeve on the new version.
Came here to see some input on the new UW -- which I just bought on a whim as I've always struggled with hybrids (current was TM stealth + 17 with LA Golf shaft) -- the 2024 UW is a winner for me -- but (and its confirmed here) -- the fact that it uses a fairway shaft cut to 41.5 inch length raises concerns about reshafting options (hence why the tipping and length was not "working"" here) -- thankfully I really liked the MMT that it comes with (which I didn't in other clubs) -- so that might have something to do with how Callaway cut/tipped the shaft to pair it with the UW -- I'm gonna to leave as is (I bought a DI 7x to potentially swap) as trying to get the tipping/cutting and therefore swingweight correct on such a major length change could be a challenge -- the UW is an amazing club though for the right player.
Obviously he needs a six wood! perfect fit. Oh and guess what Taylormade has your stick...lol
Paradym triple diamond 7 wood - yes please!
When does this get released to the general public?
Thank goodness the 2024 season release has started, I shall be on the lookout for the discount 2023 clubs
A Ventus Blue TR at that! That's crazy! They are already really tip stiff and even Fujikura recommends only tipping if necessary. Being that you're trying to build a club that flies 225 and has adequate spin to stop quickly on the green, probably the 8X TR striaght in would have been OK, but really the Ventus Red 8X would be ideal. The thing about these UWs is that they are not high spinning heads.
Even Phil is playing the UW with the Ventus Red 9X.
I definitely want a deep dive into the new Apex Pro, CB, MB, UT and UW line. I'd love to see a combo set fitting with the new line similar to what was done with the new Titleist T-Series.
Is that Triple Diamond 7 wood a tour only? I can’t seem to find one. I love my 7 wood, but if I could lower the spin and flight a little that would be amazing
Johnny freakin smokes it... 😶 good stuff!!
What are the standard lengths you build fairway woods to? Wunder says his 5 wood is 1/4 inch longer than 7 wood at 41.5. Seems like most OEMs build 5 woods to 42 1/4 or 42.5 now. Even in Ian's custom Taylormade fairway wood video he mentions his 3W is 1/4 inch short at 42.75 and 5 wood 3/4 inch short at 41.5. So that would mean standard is 43 for 3W, 42 1/4 for 5W and 41 1/4 for 7W? It seems to blur the line a lot talking about cutting 5W down or longer 7W, what lengths are we saying it's shorter or longer than?
2 clubs I've added with my rogue st and big Bertha. I pretty much have everything Calloway. Might be because I work for callaway! NADC Ft Worth!
Currently gaming the X-Forged 21 Degree, wonder if it might be time to upgrade
Out of curiosity, why tip the Blue TR instead of going to Ventus Black or Black TR
Can you guys do a review of the garmin r10 and/flight scope mevo compared to the quad for indoor setups. Need to decide on a indoor simulator for the inevitable winter months coming
Always love a visit from JDub
Had no clue this was the txg guys till the video started ); shame they lost the branding I thought was really memorable
Custom shafts with a bonded club. Not being a jerk, but how does that help us? We don’t have those options
Hi Ian. In a previous video you mention there is talks about a 7 wood triple diamond. I was wondering do you know if callaway will produce and sell a triple diamond 7 wood.
I’m in Australia and have asked the reps and they have not heard about it. Can you help me please.
I think the 2022 UW looks better than the new one. Probably will perform about the same. The new on will have the MMT shafts which I’m not a big fan of.
100%
great stuff with Johnny W
Would love to see Ian hit the UT and compare it to the p-UDI
Is there going to be a video with Johnny and the new super hybrid
Th 5W was a bit longer he said if I'm right, maybe cutting it down and give it a bit more pop with a 'better' angle of attack ?
Yup that’s what we said.
@@ianfrasergolf didn't watch it all to the end... 🙂 love the stuff you're doing. Grtz from the Netherlands
@@ianfrasergolf so in general more positive angle of attack would be better off with shorter shaft length of club?
Probably never do it, but I'd like to see a comparison to a Ping i20 2 hybrid.
Can't wait to try the new Callaway clubs. They look very forgiving and consistent.
what shafts? thats most important
i got last years Callaway 19 degree UW. I like the club. My only complaint is the club seems a tad light. Any recommendations?
Add some leadtape on the sole or install a lighter grip which will increase the swing weight
Great video. Would love to see the UW fitting.
So I’m looking at getting a UW, but I hit the ball very similar to Johnny (naturally hit a high ball). I use a x-stiff Ventus black TR 70 in my driver and 4 wood. Have a very fast transition, with around a 115-120 club head speed with my driver… would the stock MMT be too soft/go to high for me? Or should I stick with a low launch/low spin shaft? Would like to get the UW to stick rather than roll out a bunch. Thanks in advance!
Hey Hitch... our answer is always going to get fitted. With that said, with your club head speed with the driver, it's nearly a given that stock shaft wouldn't be a great fit for you if you're trying to get the most out of it.
I can't wait
Can you buy his seven wood in left hand
is the new ut using hybrind shafts or standard tips
Was that lead tape that Johnny had on the bottom of his 5 wood?
Yes!! 👍🏼
How much were we holding back on cracking jokes on new UW aesthetics with JW in the house?
I prefer the looks of the old one but the new one doesn’t look bad by any means
Whoa whoa, a TD 7w? Where do I get one of those?
Callaway Tour only equipment is such a turn off for me with Cally equipment.
Hey guys can you review the new snell balls please?
What's the shaft in JW's Apex UT? I'm not recognizing it -- wondering if maybe that's the new Project X Denali, since I think I read they're releasing a hybrid/utility version of that one too?
Yeh it’s Denali
@@ianfrasergolf Awesome, thanks!
@@ericbradner6986 👍🏼
Day 2 of the new logo……….still hate it
Love the content!
Wish there was just a different between TXG and CC. Maybe combining the names:
Club Champion-Tour Experience
Same brand of both, just together
New UW looks average compared to the original
Looks like a mix between Srixon/ Big Berta
@@michealnolan An update but somehow looks 5 years older
@@leospaceman2976 😂😂😂
Old one MUCH better!
1 degree flatter & 1 degree open!
first?
🍪 prize
So, they ruined the music, AGAIN?! This whole TXG youtube channel has just been the quintessential.....example of breaking something that did not need to be fixed. Lmao. Man...smh...@&@&@...idk...wtf
They sold out :(
Then again all indoor fitting is garbage so it’s not like it matters anyway.