I got fitted at club champion for a full bag. I got irons, a hybrid and a 3 wood. I was ok with the fitting but I always come back with the same conclusion everytime I watch ian do a fitting: no one else does a fitting as expertly as he does. My experience at club champion was nothing like what I witness with ians expertise. Fatigue plays a hugh role. I know my driver is nowhere near optimal like I see with this fitting because by the time we got to the driver we were out of time and energy. I love watching ian. I know my game could be greatly improved were he my fitter. Thank you for the enjoyment of watching. I not only love his expertise , but, more importantly is his kind demeanor
@@krusher74 no, I was talking about Ian's expertise vs most other fitters. There is no comparison. Ian is special in his knowledge and attention to detail. The fitter I had was nice, but nothing like this. He never even addressed my lie angle on the irons. I've watched scores of Ian's videos and no one else is like that
i'm wonderin gif m terribly optimized with my driver or it's just damp cold Irish winter, I swing about 105 and seem to get the ball about 210 total, but the old guys I play with swing about her speed and only get 180/190. Their shots are straight and look a good peak height with some roll out.
@@krusher74 Maybe conditions but a slightly low strike and increase in spin kills distance maybe that’s it? My swing speed on driver is the same as yours yet I’m around 220 yards with my 3i blade. Driver 260-280 yards total. I’ve been a little out to in with path working hard on that and believe I’m zero or a little in to out because I’m about half a club longer now.
Great job on the fitting. Paige came in with a really nice driver and set up she was comfortable with and Ian transitioned her to an option that maxed her swing (which is great swing). Enjoyed the conversation regarding driver accuracy in relation to optimal versus functional blend of accuracy/distance. Tweaking spin, dynamic loft, club speed, with shaft and model combination and then doubling her angle of attack from around 2 to 4 was really impressive. Nice job!!
Paige is a delightful person. She seemed so pleased with the results of the fitting. I hope she comes back to the club where I work. I'd love to see her hit that driver.
Good club fitting COULD be transformative. When I went for a driver fittings CC I now have a $1200 Ping G410lst with a KBS shaft looking great in my garage. Took it to the course and couldn’t hit it over 30ft in the air. The guy fitting me didn’t explain anything to me and kept trying to get my spin down to around 1700.
I think it’s important to mention to people trying auto flex in the bay is that if they are hitting it solid now wait until they learn the timing of the shaft. I bought one and first couple weeks were meh but then I learned that he timing I picked up 30 yards.
This is really incredible. As someone who has a negative angle of attack (-1 to -2) it's amazing to see a consistent 3 degree difference by optimizing shaft to match delivery. I recently went to get fit for a driver and this sort of an exercise wasn't done. Would love to see more content on the relationship between shaft and AoA, Ian, as I bet a bunch of people out there who are strong iron players struggle to modify their swing to hit up with the driver and need proper fitting to get there.
Her hotness to skill ratio is unheard of. Paige's knowledge is off the charts but her innocent flirty disposition is dizzying. Hats off to Ian keeping his composure with no deviation from his process. Although he is a bit giddier than usual at times. Great video.
This is one of the best videos, for me, that I’ve seen. I have a similar problem in hitting it high. My swing speed is also similar so this was a great fitting to watch and see how you addressed those issues. I’ll watch it least one more time and pause on a lot of those stat screens. Is that bar chart a new feature showing optimal and actual? I’ve never seen it before. Are the blue zones based solely on the chosen club or are there other factors behind what it thinks is optimal?
it does look like witht he latest software like ian in using that even shitty fitter should just be able to get you to where the computer says yes. And you want to see that screen and that it looks good before you buy the club.
Ian, how did you like fitting with track man? I enjoy seeing the optimal ranges vs shot data but outside of that I prefer the looks of foresight (range wise, your data screen, ui, etc) Love the fiberbuilt grass mat they have at that club champion. Saving everyone’s wrists and elbows!
I think all of us would be appreciative of a free fitting that dials us into our specs, and certainly the free follow-up tweak after we've had a couple of rounds with it and know it's not quite correct for our needs.
Watching an Ian fitting session is so awesome. Every number is evaluated and every stone is unturned to get to the final destination..... unlike so many other fitters that just go the route of "here try this" with ZERO game plan or path to be followed.
I would like to have had someone that cared half as much as Ian at my club champion driver fitting. Mine seamed a little more rushed and I left with a more flexible shaft that I thought I needed. Played with it twice and switched back to my stiffer shaft now I hit more fairways than my club champion recommended shaft. I did agree with the driver head they suggested.
Never been to a fitting (yet), but I have to believe the communication between the fitter and the golfer is HUGE! Did Paige try the Autoflex shaft with the Darkspeed as a comparison?
I tried a few autoflex shafts with the lighter weights as suggested by autoflex and tried multiple flex options but it was so inconsistent with my quick tempo.
enjoyed both of these with PS. question on the ball speed. while she was making big gains smash didn't improve as much as I might of thought. Would like to have seen where the ball was impacting the face. assume slightly high toe based on the spin numbers. beyond the tee adjustment, did you also consder a slightly longer shaft for both club head speed and maybe a little more centered impact? keep them coing Ian
What flex was used on the BGT shaft? Did you build a pseudo-Autoflex with a senior flex? Just wondering because that’s what my fitter built for me. It checked all the boxes.
Ian is that club head speed x 2.7 nugget only good for driver? It seems like it is based on some quick math, what are the multipliers for other clubs in the bag?
Naively I would have assumed if you get the other measurements correct the ball speed would take care of itself, but it was way down on the optimiser. Why was that? Is it the strike location? plus well done to Paige her swing looked very consistent.
Did I miss something? He mentioned changing the ball from the TP5 she was hitting to something else, but I never saw what that was or if they even changed the ball. Curious if they did make a ball change, what was it and was it to increase ball speed or change spin, or both?
This is a legit Female Golfer. Not some of the other TH-camr's who are really Eye Candy but not really legit Golfers. She can't beat Mid Handicap Males playing from the same Tee's. And out drive most of them.
Good video Ian. But just that set up a lone is over $2500.00 that's a lot of $$ for just a driver fitting/purchase. Then you still have the rest of the bag to go.
Was there a reason for abandoning the cobra head for the Callaway? Just curious, as the autoflex is an aftermarket shaft anyway. Just curious or missed the reason for the head switch too.
In previous Q&As, Ian has given a rough rule of thumb that generally you can see a significant change in iron performance with new models and technology advancements every 3-5 years. With driver, it's probably closer to 3 years, but the driver improvements are mostly just added forgiveness these days since they've maxed out on how "hot" they can make the faces and distance gains on a well struck drive (based on the limits set by USGA and RA). It also depends on how often you play. If you're hitting a lot of balls practicing and playing a lot of rounds you can definitely wear out your irons much faster and see a decrease in performance, but that would usually be from wearing the face and losing optimal spin.
Why would optimal on the TM Optimizer ever be less than the actual? At 14:36 Paige is 222 optimal carry but carried it 225? 243 optimal total but actual 250. So her strike was better than optimal?
I feel like I’m strong enough and fast enough I should hit it 280 In the air yet I’m hitting 220 and 230 on the fly and my driver and shaft is both good for my swing speed but I just can’t hit it that far. I don’t get it
No, this is the CC location in New York where they have done multiple fitting videos with Paige, and the US locations use Trackman. Ian has said in Q&As that all the CC locations in Canada still use and will continue to use Foresight launch monitors.
In her iron fit video they switched from TP5 to Pro V1x for more spin. These two videos were shot on the same day so pretty safe to assume that she was hitting the Pro V1x for the driver fit.
th-cam.com/video/TeDaoUEcWFw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BSCBmHfJm6oryroG At 1.17 in the above video posted in May 2023 Paige is hitting the same Titleist driver 269 yards so where did the 30+ yards go? Is the face cracked? It was going over ten yards longer than what Ian has fitted Paige with in this video. Somethings off here golfers!
There is no "standard" length for driver. 48 inches is the max but the USGA and RA can limit it to 46 for amateur and pro tournaments. Most stock and custom driver builds are generally between 45-46 so I would assume everything she hit was likely within that range.
Ian’s eye discipline is always so on point in these videos!!! Well done sir
😂😂😂😂 true professional
That's so freaking weird just keeping constan eye contact in fear 😵💫
Happily married man. Not every man is like that.
Paige’s toe discipline is as well
Or well done editing team.
I love that with all the experience Paige has, she was still asking some really good questions, and Ian is the GOAT of fitting for sure!!!
I got fitted at club champion for a full bag. I got irons, a hybrid and a 3 wood. I was ok with the fitting but I always come back with the same conclusion everytime I watch ian do a fitting: no one else does a fitting as expertly as he does. My experience at club champion was nothing like what I witness with ians expertise. Fatigue plays a hugh role. I know my driver is nowhere near optimal like I see with this fitting because by the time we got to the driver we were out of time and energy. I love watching ian. I know my game could be greatly improved were he my fitter. Thank you for the enjoyment of watching. I not only love his expertise , but, more importantly is his kind demeanor
well that down a lot to the fact that Iam here is just doing a driver fitting and you went for a full bag, you are comparing apples to oranges.
@@krusher74 no, I was talking about Ian's expertise vs most other fitters. There is no comparison. Ian is special in his knowledge and attention to detail. The fitter I had was nice, but nothing like this. He never even addressed my lie angle on the irons. I've watched scores of Ian's videos and no one else is like that
@@krusher74 he did do almost a full bag with her. The videos are just split.
Wow that was great watching someone with same swing speed as me and see what is possible.
i'm wonderin gif m terribly optimized with my driver or it's just damp cold Irish winter, I swing about 105 and seem to get the ball about 210 total, but the old guys I play with swing about her speed and only get 180/190. Their shots are straight and look a good peak height with some roll out.
@@krusher74 Maybe conditions but a slightly low strike and increase in spin kills distance maybe that’s it? My swing speed on driver is the same as yours yet I’m around 220 yards with my 3i blade. Driver 260-280 yards total.
I’ve been a little out to in with path working hard on that and believe I’m zero or a little in to out because I’m about half a club longer now.
Damn 20 yards 😮, I need to see Ian too
In all honesty i love the technical talk
Great job on the fitting. Paige came in with a really nice driver and set up she was comfortable with and Ian transitioned her to an option that maxed her swing (which is great swing). Enjoyed the conversation regarding driver accuracy in relation to optimal versus functional blend of accuracy/distance. Tweaking spin, dynamic loft, club speed, with shaft and model combination and then doubling her angle of attack from around 2 to 4 was really impressive. Nice job!!
Paige is a delightful person. She seemed so pleased with the results of the fitting. I hope she comes back to the club where I work. I'd love to see her hit that driver.
Superb session and new found respect for Paige and her journey
Ian, Paige and a Pink Autoflex it's a match made in Heaven👍👍👍
Too bad those Autoflex shafts are pushing $1000
@@jackarmstrong1838 True, but Paige will be getting a deal (if not FOC)
Good club fitting COULD be transformative. When I went for a driver fittings CC I now have a $1200 Ping G410lst with a KBS shaft looking great in my garage. Took it to the course and couldn’t hit it over 30ft in the air. The guy fitting me didn’t explain anything to me and kept trying to get my spin down to around 1700.
1700! so how did you hit that club at the fitting. and why did you buy it?
Clubfitters just don't get any better that Ian. The equation and self talk in his head would make for an awesome tech video!
I think it’s important to mention to people trying auto flex in the bay is that if they are hitting it solid now wait until they learn the timing of the shaft. I bought one and first couple weeks were meh but then I learned that he timing I picked up 30 yards.
This is really incredible. As someone who has a negative angle of attack (-1 to -2) it's amazing to see a consistent 3 degree difference by optimizing shaft to match delivery. I recently went to get fit for a driver and this sort of an exercise wasn't done. Would love to see more content on the relationship between shaft and AoA, Ian, as I bet a bunch of people out there who are strong iron players struggle to modify their swing to hit up with the driver and need proper fitting to get there.
It's simple - soft tip will raise AoA. Firm tip will lower it.
Her hotness to skill ratio is unheard of. Paige's knowledge is off the charts but her innocent flirty disposition is dizzying. Hats off to Ian keeping his composure with no deviation from his process. Although he is a bit giddier than usual at times. Great video.
He knew what he was getting into. Paige was a solid mid D1 golfer, so we arent just dealing with a pretty face.
The master at work. Paige has such a consistent swing it was almost too easy to fit. Great video
Lots of good information and it was easy on the eyes to watch.😊
This is one of the best videos, for me, that I’ve seen. I have a similar problem in hitting it high. My swing speed is also similar so this was a great fitting to watch and see how you addressed those issues. I’ll watch it least one more time and pause on a lot of those stat screens. Is that bar chart a new feature showing optimal and actual? I’ve never seen it before. Are the blue zones based solely on the chosen club or are there other factors behind what it thinks is optimal?
Would be interesting TSR with the Autoflex
I wish I could find someone who pays that much attention to detail as my local fitter
if that was me, she would mistaken that 10 inch iron shaft from the golf one..
it does look like witht he latest software like ian in using that even shitty fitter should just be able to get you to where the computer says yes. And you want to see that screen and that it looks good before you buy the club.
I wish all the club fitter got the knowledge of Ian.
Paige, as lovely as ever. Ian, as smart as always.
Keep your eyes up, eyes up!
Well done sir
Great results on the driver guys, nearly 30 yds is insane. Paige must be very happy. Thanks for the awesome video. See Ya's
Ian knows his stuff. Very impressing. It's a bit of a hassle to fly to Canada from Germany to get a fitting. 😵💫
Watching Ian work his magic...👍
Optimized by the Mad Scientist. Ian got Paige a yard for each minute of this fitting. Ian is the G for sure.
Ian, how did you like fitting with track man?
I enjoy seeing the optimal ranges vs shot data but outside of that I prefer the looks of foresight (range wise, your data screen, ui, etc)
Love the fiberbuilt grass mat they have at that club champion. Saving everyone’s wrists and elbows!
where has strike location gone?
Ian. What an Awesome job fitting Paige ,love the way you help the Golfer out. Ian would a Different Golf ball add any more distance?
I think all of us would be appreciative of a free fitting that dials us into our specs, and certainly the free follow-up tweak after we've had a couple of rounds with it and know it's not quite correct for our needs.
Ive been to several fittings and I can say that Ian is a cut way above the rest. I wish he was down in Cali
Watching an Ian fitting session is so awesome. Every number is evaluated and every stone is unturned to get to the final destination..... unlike so many other fitters that just go the route of "here try this" with ZERO game plan or path to be followed.
Ian is the best.
Awesome video as always Ian! Well done sir 🎉
Wish you were in the UK! I would defo visit you for a fitting
I would like to have had someone that cared half as much as Ian at my club champion driver fitting. Mine seamed a little more rushed and I left with a more flexible shaft that I thought I needed. Played with it twice and switched back to my stiffer shaft now I hit more fairways than my club champion recommended shaft. I did agree with the driver head they suggested.
Never been to a fitting (yet), but I have to believe the communication between the fitter and the golfer is HUGE! Did Paige try the Autoflex shaft with the Darkspeed as a comparison?
Paiges ball flight is so consistent. Very impressive
Ian, please come back home! We need you in the UK....
Ian- you need to come to the Club Champion in Santa Monica!! I’ll sign up for a fitting.
Bring Paige too!😂😂
Amazing experience. My club champion branch however doesn’t have AutoFlex shafts for fittings! What gives?!? I’ve asked for them for two years now.
That driver is insane. Just ordered one last week
I tried a few autoflex shafts with the lighter weights as suggested by autoflex and tried multiple flex options but it was so inconsistent with my quick tempo.
Sweet as Paige try to hit 300 on your next fitting maybe a ping you are pretty good as i just tried tead tape I'm taking that off
enjoyed both of these with PS. question on the ball speed. while she was making big gains smash didn't improve as much as I might of thought. Would like to have seen where the ball was impacting the face. assume slightly high toe based on the spin numbers. beyond the tee adjustment, did you also consder a slightly longer shaft for both club head speed and maybe a little more centered impact? keep them coing Ian
Very good fitting
❤ Paige and ❤ Ian.
What flex was used on the BGT shaft? Did you build a pseudo-Autoflex with a senior flex? Just wondering because that’s what my fitter built for me. It checked all the boxes.
Ian is that club head speed x 2.7 nugget only good for driver? It seems like it is based on some quick math, what are the multipliers for other clubs in the bag?
Naively I would have assumed if you get the other measurements correct the ball speed would take care of itself, but it was way down on the optimiser. Why was that? Is it the strike location? plus well done to Paige her swing looked very consistent.
Never a more true statement than " there's scar tissue in all of us from golf course struggles"
Sarcastic Mr. Know it all...
5 months ago on Paige's channel in this same environment she was hitting her Titleist driver 250+ yards
I really hope my club champion fitter next month is this good 😭 the last fitter at golftec sucked so badly
Did I miss something? He mentioned changing the ball from the TP5 she was hitting to something else, but I never saw what that was or if they even changed the ball. Curious if they did make a ball change, what was it and was it to increase ball speed or change spin, or both?
In the irons vid it was a V1X. More spin
This is a legit Female Golfer. Not some of the other TH-camr's who are really Eye Candy but not really legit Golfers. She can't beat Mid Handicap Males playing from the same Tee's. And out drive most of them.
Love it boysss, chug happy dads every hole
Good video Ian. But just that set up a lone is over $2500.00 that's a lot of $$ for just a driver fitting/purchase. Then you still have the rest of the bag to go.
Was there a reason for abandoning the cobra head for the Callaway? Just curious, as the autoflex is an aftermarket shaft anyway. Just curious or missed the reason for the head switch too.
Now that Iv'e seen these numbers, it completely makes sense why Paige is an "influencer" and not just a golfer.
Can’t wait for you guys to get black ops in and start fitting that too!
awesome. does equipment change dramatically every year. how often should we get refit?
In previous Q&As, Ian has given a rough rule of thumb that generally you can see a significant change in iron performance with new models and technology advancements every 3-5 years. With driver, it's probably closer to 3 years, but the driver improvements are mostly just added forgiveness these days since they've maxed out on how "hot" they can make the faces and distance gains on a well struck drive (based on the limits set by USGA and RA). It also depends on how often you play. If you're hitting a lot of balls practicing and playing a lot of rounds you can definitely wear out your irons much faster and see a decrease in performance, but that would usually be from wearing the face and losing optimal spin.
@ian Wouldn't the softer tip of the Autoflex increase the dynamic loft? Would you have to decrease the loft of the driver head to compensate?
Yes, that’s what we done. Went from 9° in the Titleist to 7° in the Callaway to account for the additional deflection and benefit from the upward AOA.
@@ianfrasergolf Thought so. Thanks for confirming. Great fit. Love the small details that you pick up on and apply to your fittings.
@@ianfrasergolfIs the Brava shaft a soft or firm tip?
2.7 yards for every mph... first time I've heard that and now I know I'm at least 20 yards off as well.
Good Video 👏
Ian is an Einstein fitter !
AutoFlex is the best driver shaft on the market
Why didn't you try the cobra with the autoflex?
With Ian’s rule of 2.7x club head speed. Is this for target Carry or Total distance?
Why would optimal on the TM Optimizer ever be less than the actual? At 14:36 Paige is 222 optimal carry but carried it 225? 243 optimal total but actual 250. So her strike was better than optimal?
We must clone Ian and spread his genius around the world
Was some of the speed gain due to a longer shaft? That Autoflex looked longer than her gamer.
could no changes be made to the tsr3?
the tsr4 has 2 moveable weights, but I think it's a bit harder to hit than the tsr3.
I feel like I’m strong enough and fast enough I should hit it 280 In the air yet I’m hitting 220 and 230 on the fly and my driver and shaft is both good for my swing speed but I just can’t hit it that far. I don’t get it
What i wouldn't do to get Ian to fit a full bag for me.
You need Bobby Fairways in the studio.
Mega stuff!!
Is the club head speed X 2.7 the carry distance?
4:07 Heard the siren and thought Ohio Players - Fire would have been the perfect music for this
What happened to TXG?
Are you transitioning from GC Quad to Trackman in all your fitting studios?
No, this is the CC location in New York where they have done multiple fitting videos with Paige, and the US locations use Trackman. Ian has said in Q&As that all the CC locations in Canada still use and will continue to use Foresight launch monitors.
What mat is being used? Is it fiberbuilt does anyone know?
that would be my luck. Get fitted into a 700.00 shaft
you said I challenge myself to get 2.7 yards x swing speed. Is this carry distance or total distance?
Total
If I were a tour pro I’d make Ian part of my team.
Think he used to work for taylormade.
So what ball did Ian switch out and have Paige hit?
In her iron fit video they switched from TP5 to Pro V1x for more spin. These two videos were shot on the same day so pretty safe to assume that she was hitting the Pro V1x for the driver fit.
Is the 2.7 you mention total distance? Or Carry?
Same question. Also, what ball did you switch her into?
Its total
Total means nothing on a launch monitor.
its total, because you can't get 270 carry with a 100mph swing unless you play in the Himalayas.
th-cam.com/video/TeDaoUEcWFw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BSCBmHfJm6oryroG
At 1.17 in the above video posted in May 2023 Paige is hitting the same Titleist driver 269 yards so where did the 30+ yards go? Is the face cracked? It was going over ten yards longer than what Ian has fitted Paige with in this video. Somethings off here golfers!
When you need speed and distance, AutoFlex to the rescue.
I still want more pages Is that ok 🤣
Nope I still want more
Were all of her shafts in stand length?
There is no "standard" length for driver. 48 inches is the max but the USGA and RA can limit it to 46 for amateur and pro tournaments. Most stock and custom driver builds are generally between 45-46 so I would assume everything she hit was likely within that range.
The club speed x 2.7 is this carry or total?
Total
I'm surprised her club speed is so slow. I'm not bragging and she would smoke me in a game but my club head speed is over 100 mph and I am 60.
No disrespect, but I finally get to watch a video where the content is leaps and bounds above the click bait.
club speed * 2.7 = does that exact carry or total?!
I was thinking the same question. I did some quick math on Paige’s number and I’m guessing it’s total. 🤷🏻
Total
Must be hard talking to Paige with a full mongrel ! 🤣👍
Paige: "I like the whippiness."
The auto flex price is off putting
Club Whisperer
$625 shaft option damn! lol
whippy shaft huh huh
weird on Instagram she hits it 290...
outdoors with roll