My heart goes out to these individuals who still manage to thrive and stay alive despite their illnesses. To not be able to understand or be understood must be such an isolating shell of existence. 😢❤
Schizophrenics don't think about thriving and staying alive. They don't know they are isolated or not understood because that involves drawing conclusions from logical facts. Hebephrenic schizophrenics are totally lost in a fractured reality and will never be able to communicate successfully with others. Some cases are milder than others, but if it shows up in adolescence, it generally does not improve greatly. It is fortunate that times have changed since this video was made, and that there are newer medications to treat these folks, drugs that are not as destructive and mind-killing as thorazine and haldol. However, their confusion remains. Generally there is no cure for schizophrenia. A few can be somewhat content, but most cannot hold a job, have a family of their own, etc. I have 3 schizophrenic siblings. It is a horrible, cruel disease.
I see color shapes for each musical note. I was mentally tortured by a mother who was both a miser (she was from Old Mexico), and a full fledged Narcissist Despite living through patterns of similar abuse through different friends who took on her role, I was able to slowly document my musical and artistic perceptions, and even have my own page here to share. It is very moving to see other people like this from the past, knowing that I was never alone.
The brain of someone with this condition does not comprehend that he is not understood, because his brain exists in a state of gibberish. It's not like a person with aphasia. And he was not thriving, he lived in a hospital, unemployable and unable to live a normal life.
My friends were impressed that I understood what he was saying. I work as a police dispatcher and I frequently have to deal with people who speak less clearly than this guy. 20 years of doing the job and your hearing gets REALLY fine tuned. "He's in the streets. He buys a suit, he buys a hat. He goes to shows. He buys chocolate and cigarettes."
Everybody understood what he was saying not every word but everything that you heard and understood we understood it as well. He was a French Canadian from Montreal Quebec. Did you catch at the very end where Dr. Lehman ask him where is the dollar? And he points to his heart and says “the heart the heart” but dr Lehmann wasn’t to sharp to catch on that and asks him again “what’s this” and Joe respond “I want the heart to see the light a man could be dying soon” yet again Dr. Lehmann fail to understand him and retort with some comfort words. My take on the last part of the interview was: he metaphorically is telling dr. Lehmann “the value as a man is on his heart” 💔
@@anilaltun2190-- I think you're right Anil. Sad what happened to this fellow. In the black & white photo he looks at (which is him), he has a full head of great black hair & he's a good-looking kid. But I must admit, despite his condition I liked this guy. I liked listening to him, he had a sense of humor, he had personality. I often wonder what happened to him.
I sat with my baby brother while life support was turned off, he was schizophrenic we didn't really know this until the end, he was a real character he'd morph into a older guy called lord Barrington & speak in a cocky English accent, yet if we hung round with him more than half hour he was back, he was amazing with music could play piano, guitar , to the very note but by ear & he was deaf in 1 of those ears, how I miss him always knew what to say loved everyone, yet misunderstood, the Dr here in this video are amazing
My brother was in a facility with a man named Lord Barrington many years ago. He was English, very intelligent, had great stories and was very funny. That's crazy.
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 .
My paternal grandfather was a slightly less severe version of Joe. He had an incredibly difficult life, eventually drinking to self-medicate. He was institutionalized in the state mental hospital a few times; the family were deeply embarrassed, and told everyone that he had been institutionalized *because* he drank. They were horrible, insensitive people, and even my dad refused to level with me about what was really happening. They preferred a demeaning lie to the truth. (I had to piece the story together long after my grandfather's death, with the help of an estranged family member.)
There is nothing to be embarrassed about! I remember mental illness carrying a “hush-hush” stigma when I was little. These people work 1,000 times harder than you or I in a day just to order something to eat! I hope and pray he was able to respond well to different types of treatment. God bless him....l✝️🙏🕊💕😢😊
I hope after he gave him the Coke they actually did take him down to socialize and visit with staff or other patients or something, like he really wanted to. I’m sure socializing when he is motivated for it would be very therapeutic to him, and maybe even his illness.
He really was over 900 years old. The sites and memories filled his mind. He was forever youthful until his mind broke. Then sickness took his sanity and his body soon followed.
I have a lot of psychology courses and worked with many bipolar and schizophrenic patients. They come to me pre diagnosed by healthcare professionals. They are correct in their diagnoses.
Apparently, Joe went on to write over half a dozen romantic novels with policeman and dentist characters as the protagonists in his many wild storylines. This goes to show that one cannot judge a person by their demeanour alone. Joe was certainly a sensitive man at heart to have composed his many books. God bless this man. ☝️🙄
@@atablevendetta1429 I am sorry but I cannot give specific titles, as the information was conveyed to me by word of mouth by someone I do not know. Perhaps I may have been given false information. 🫣
Apparently, Joe went on to write over half a dozen romantic novels with policeman and dentist characters as the protagonists in his many wild storylines. This goes to show that one cannot judge a person by their demeanour alone. Joe was certainly a sensitive man at heart to have composed his many books. God bless this man. ☝️🙄
Someone that I believe has this disorder attempted to bully me and I often think about him and feel so sad for him because I think he's undiagnosed and even when he spoke to a literal mental health professional they don't detect it. I don't think they do because it's in an infancy that any stress and drug use will extrapolate into full blown detachment from the self awareness needed to help him even begin to treat this. Terrible thing to turn a blind eye to
Please! What’s sad is how commenters make naive assumptive claims based on minutes of film! Do explain how you know his mind “has gone” or more specifically explain what constitutes a mind. Prove that his mind is gone because if a mind is consciousness produced by the brain then Joe’s mind or brain is very much intact and operating as we can observe. So his mind isn’t somewhere else, anymore than my mind is in that room with those two men observing their conversation. Or is it?
@@BushyHairedStranger I don't need to prove anything. It is right there for everyone to see. I am a nurse and have worked years and years with people like him. You took an ordinary phrase that I had made and tried to turn it literal when my statement was figurative.
This is my favorite one of these videos because I like Joe, he would be someone fun to be around, I think I would be friends with Joe just to hear him talk, he sounds like he's just confused and scattered but just can't quite get out what he wants to say if you really listen you can understand him, I'm sure Joe is already passed away but I think I'd would have been friends with Joe he's a character for sure, R.I.P Joe you are now free from your confused mind, I also had a brother that was a paranoid schizophrenic, he had a miserable life and passed away at 60 i miss him and Joe kinda reminds me of him just misunderstood like my brother, R.I.P Johnny maybe you and Joe have met in heaven and are good friends, it would be my pleasure if I make it to heaven to sit and talk to you both without earthly mental problems like you both had here, I bet your both very intelligent interesting spirits to talk to.
At 8:11 Joe says "that man's a boot teller..." what he actually said (since he's in Montreal, & speaks French) is "bouteiller." A bouteiller is a man in charge of a wine cellar. It was also a surname in Canada between 1840-1920. Joe had an education, a knowledge in the recesses of his mind. I'm surprised that the doctor didn't pick up on that. How many people would even have that word in their vocabulary in the 1950s?
@@IsmaelMartinezMusic - I'm assuming it Ismael. Not suggesting it's a fact. I stated it because I found it peculiar that the doctor seemed to gloss over the sentence. He didn't respond to it, didn't ask the patient what he meant by it, and how he knew that word? I'm not a psychiatrist or psychologist -- I just thought that it was important. If the doctor did pick up on it then it wasn't in this film. I wondered why? Maybe the doctor did follow up at a later date, or maybe it wasn't the first time the patient said those words. The doctor may have already been familiar with the speech of this patient. Maybe the film is just a piece of a longer filmed interview we didn't get to see.
No way I could do this job. I would have lost it: Doc: How long have you been her? Joe: I've been here 900 years. Doc: How did you get here? Joe: On my four feet. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 It's sad that I find this funny. I mean no disrespect to him or those that are ill.
It's funny, even 'normal' people can look at photos of their young self with a lack of familiarity, and, for all we can know, the man and the man in the photo are now perhaps entirely different people.
His cranium is deformed. I can’t understand most of what he’s saying when he speaks in English. He’s French Canadian I suppose. Love and compassion will always be the only way we’ll ever help people like this.
This is TH-cam…. If anyone is slightly offended by the truth based on facts the posts are deleted. Just another example of the demise of our first amendment rights. Courtesy of the new woke democrat party.
@@scatdog1 as someone who is very left leaning…. No, it’s not the Democrats lol. Y’all right-wingers really just decided on this one social narrative and apply it to literally everything regardless of any actual relevance or applicability. Saying this is a political move is a quite a reach lol. TH-cam is just TH-cam. I’m 90% sure these videos are taken down because of copyright claims (bc that’s what gets videos taken down 99% of the time.) Of course, none of us in the comment section can 100% know - it’d be a little naive to think your theory is the one and only possible explanation. Have a little common sense. TH-cam doesn’t take down videos based on how many people feel ‘offended’. If you need any proof, look at Eugenia Cooney’s channel and all the shit that her videos are stirring up. If you spent any time on this website, you’d know she definitely isn’t the only one either. The like to dislike ratio is way higher on pika’s videos than most, which means they have very high approval ratings. There are far worse, much more graphic/upsetting videos on here that TH-cam can’t be bothered to touch no matter how many people complain. But of course, you just had to turn this into something to further your political agenda, huh.
@@scatdog1 as someone who is very left leaning…. No, it’s not the Democrats lol. Y’all right-wingers really just decided on this one social narrative and apply it to literally everything regardless of any actual relevance or applicability. Saying this is a political move is a quite a reach lol. TH-cam is just TH-cam. I’m 90% sure these videos are taken down because of copyright claims (bc that’s what gets videos taken down 99% of the time.) Of course, none of us in the comment section can 100% know - it’d be a little naive to think your theory is the one and only possible explanation. Have a little common sense. TH-cam doesn’t take down videos based on how many people feel ‘offended’. If you need any proof, look at Eugenia Cooney’s channel and all the shit that her videos are stirring up. If you spent any time on this website, you’d know she definitely isn’t the only one either. The like to dislike ratio is way higher on pika’s videos than most, which means they have very high approval ratings. There are far worse, much more graphic/upsetting videos on here that TH-cam can’t be bothered to touch no matter how many people complain. But of course, you just had to turn this into something to further your political agenda. It gets tiring.
There was definitely a version of this on TH-cam at some point that had captions, if I can figure out how to add captions to this video I definitely will
i swear i heard someone talk like that, always off topic pulling nonsense from he's heel, like we say and very quickly like he believes what he just said and not like he just came up with it millisecond ago, it was a homeless guy in our town he was hanging around our town for over 10 years
It's always interesting watching these interviews with real people. I wonder how pharmacological treatment changes the behaviour of severely mentally ill patients. I deal with schizophrenics in my work, but their symptoms are much less severe. Most of them are able to perform basic functions such as grocery shopping with out issues. All on medication of course.
In past decades the mentally ill (schizophrenic) patients the government used to institutionalized them in mental asylums or psychiatric hospitals but through the years big pharma companies have developed more powerful drugs to help them to cope with daily life functions. You right today’s mentally ill function better on their own because of the most efficient drugs and treatment.
I don't know about today, but in the 20th century at least, English-speaking Montrealers proudly thought they had the best accent in the whole English-speaking world. To me, this doctor's speech is evidence that they may well have been right.
I see a good psych and while many people feel for the patients I also feel for the doctors because of how hard diagnosing and treating is much of the time and its thankless. While I consider myself a reasonable case think of how hard it must be to try and treat someone such as this man or others that seem beyond help.
Apparently off camera the doctor lost patience with Joe and gave him a back hander sending him to floor. Joe got up and was speaking normal. He threw the coke bottle at the doctor, walked out and hitchhiked his way to LA. He eventually met up with Lou Reed and helped compose the lyrics to Take a Walk on the Wild Side.
When even people in training have the opprotunity to see these very important films, the fact that they subject has a shaved head tells them nothing. They basically did whatever they want to these unfortunate people and there is no actual 'science' involved.
@@b.jr.7816I’m Sorry You Feel That You’re are Experiencing a Stigma , However Blatant You May Feel At This Moment ? I Often Find Comfort In a Empty Painting Frame That I Hang Because I Can See Whatever I Wish within It’s Boundaries and You as a Visitor May Actually See Something Else Within The Frame ! I Would At Least Hope You Could !?? Enjoy Your Flatulence And Giggle At The Same Instant !!! It Works Wonders For Self Preservation of the Mind !!!
Nah his name is Trump who had to pay a woman he raped and was impeached twice.and was a friend of Epstein..and owes 350 million..and has millions of fool cultists.. this guy is a gem compared to him.
@@Valkonnen You are correct about "abs"! Stay tuned...I've turned the case over to scholars of the Yiddish language to interpret beyond what I'm able to, which language Joe speaks when not speaking English. He even says so, at 9:03, that he speaks "half Jewish, half English"; of course "Jewish" is nothing other than Yiddish, which, as you might know, is what the Y-word translates directly as. Furthermore, Joe states that he speaks not much French ("just a little bit", at 9:06) when asked by Dr. Lehman/Lemmon. Perhaps Dr. L thinks that Joe is lapsing into French because they are situated in Canada and Montreal is a topic. If so, this avuncular interviewer might be brilliant in medicine, but he'd be no polyglot.
From a mystic's perspective, he means he's been in *existence* for 900 years, who knows how a neuroscientist with a panpsychist view would eat that up, when he says hes sick in the blood he does not mean pressure, he means his genetic makeup is wrong, and he understands this on some level, as well he keeps referring to himself in the picture as an other person because in time as one changes one might as well see a former image of their self as having been someone else... I mean he illuatrates some savvy intellect for someone mentally Ill... i wouldnt say thia is illness as much as its just nurasynapses have been meshed out of order
@AJ. No. He doesn't know what he means, at all. This is hebephrenic schizophrenia. The lens through which he views the world and himself is entirely fractured. He doesn't know he is sick, at all. All he knows is that this place is where he is staying. His mind is unreachable and these are not cryptic words of insight. I lived with 3 schizophrenics, my siblings, who fell ill with this disease in their teens. They are now in their 50s and 60s. Drugs have improved their quality of life, making them more peaceful, but delusional thinking, hallucinations and loss of any fixed orientation to reality is still profound. It is now known that this disease is carried along genetic lines. Our family participated in a research study for this illness. Our DNA was examined, and a genetic marker was found that came from the Welsh side of the family. Every generation of that bloodline had family that were in stricken with this illness. Out of 8 children in my family, 3 became schizophrenics. It was a very traumatic diagnosis for my folks and nearly drove my dad crazy.
Se tornaram esquizofrênicos na adolescência? Desculpe perguntar , antes de se tornarem doentes, como eles eram no dia a dia? Como perceberam que estavam adoecendo? Algum deles usaram drogas? Sinto pelas perguntas, e se puder responder, agradeço. Imagino que não deve ter sido fácil para seu pai e mãe.
@@eileenhetherington3704 for thousands of years people with these afflictions have been a sort of unwanted friction to society, and for thousands of years most of us have gotten it wrong. Sages and mystics have always understood these 'afflictions' for what they are. Schizophrenic are not mentally 'ill', they're uninhibited. As Sadhguru once said, leave the fool alone for he is not insane, his mind is just with God...
I am not absolutely convinced that this man is really sick. He's playing a comfort issue of diversion. Too much compassion oursides. Put the guy in a real stress situation and you'll have a big surprise.
He's already gone lol he's no longer suffering. It's sad and strange but solving disorders like these probably requires gene editing which may be 200 years away or maybe we will never figure it out. Until then like .04 to one percent of the population suffers to varying degrees like this.
My heart goes out to these individuals who still manage to thrive and stay alive despite their illnesses. To not be able to understand or be understood must be such an isolating shell of existence. 😢❤
Schizophrenics don't think about thriving and staying alive. They don't know they are isolated or not understood because that involves drawing conclusions from logical facts. Hebephrenic schizophrenics are totally lost in a fractured reality and will never be able to communicate successfully with others. Some cases are milder than others, but if it shows up in adolescence, it generally does not improve greatly. It is fortunate that times have changed since this video was made, and that there are newer medications to treat these folks, drugs that are not as destructive and mind-killing as thorazine and haldol. However, their confusion remains. Generally there is no cure for schizophrenia. A few can be somewhat content, but most cannot hold a job, have a family of their own, etc. I have 3 schizophrenic siblings. It is a horrible, cruel disease.
I see color shapes for each musical note. I was mentally tortured by a mother who was both a miser (she was from Old Mexico), and a full fledged Narcissist Despite living through patterns of similar abuse through different friends who took on her role, I was able to slowly document my musical and artistic perceptions, and even have my own page here to share. It is very moving to see other people like this from the past, knowing that I was never alone.
The brain of someone with this condition does not comprehend that he is not understood, because his brain exists in a state of gibberish. It's not like a person with aphasia. And he was not thriving, he lived in a hospital, unemployable and unable to live a normal life.
only thing for me is knowing the pain it causes everyone around me if i went through with it
5:12 the meds have likely damaged his hearing, and the rest of him.
My friends were impressed that I understood what he was saying. I work as a police dispatcher and I frequently have to deal with people who speak less clearly than this guy. 20 years of doing the job and your hearing gets REALLY fine tuned. "He's in the streets. He buys a suit, he buys a hat. He goes to shows. He buys chocolate and cigarettes."
I'm impressed too! 🙃
He's actually referring to his old-self when he talks about "the boy" or says "he"
@@anilaltun2190 Perhaps it's a sort of multiple personality thing that makes him refer to himself in third person.
Everybody understood what he was saying not every word but everything that you heard and understood we understood it as well.
He was a French Canadian from Montreal Quebec.
Did you catch at the very end where Dr. Lehman ask him where is the dollar? And he points to his heart and says “the heart the heart” but dr Lehmann wasn’t to sharp to catch on that and asks him again “what’s this” and Joe respond “I want the heart to see the light a man could be dying soon” yet again Dr. Lehmann fail to understand him and retort with some comfort words.
My take on the last part of the interview was: he metaphorically is telling dr. Lehmann “the value as a man is on his heart” 💔
@@anilaltun2190-- I think you're right Anil.
Sad what happened to this fellow. In the black & white photo he looks at (which is him), he has a full head of great black hair & he's a good-looking kid. But I must admit, despite his condition I liked this guy. I liked listening to him, he had a sense of humor, he had personality. I often wonder what happened to him.
The oddest Coke commercial.
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I give it high marks for originality, however . . . credit where credit is due. 😜
I guess your life in America was a circus adventure. Don't worry man. Things change. I can only pray for you. Life is beyond evil for most people.
Joe … despite his challenges … has a wonderful personality and humorous
He just wants to talk to people. You can tell he likes it.
He just talks like many Italian Americans
@@alanrogs3990What a weird comment. Im full blooded Italian & i dont like that at all. No Italians do.
It is no measure of health to be adjusted in a sick society. It is society that is profoundly sick.
Yeah, great comment. No doubt the world would run better if those suffering from schizophrenia were making the big decisions. Please . . .
@@shastamccoy7777agree with you 100%. The previous comment sounds like a pretentious new age bumper sticker message
I sat with my baby brother while life support was turned off, he was schizophrenic we didn't really know this until the end, he was a real character he'd morph into a older guy called lord Barrington & speak in a cocky English accent, yet if we hung round with him more than half hour he was back, he was amazing with music could play piano, guitar , to the very note but by ear & he was deaf in 1 of those ears, how I miss him always knew what to say loved everyone, yet misunderstood, the Dr here in this video are amazing
So sorry you had to see him pass in this manner. Sounds like he was a savant.
Sounds more like Dissociative identity disorder if he had alters.
@@TheBlackbelair 🥹thank you he was 1 of a kind
My brother was in a facility with a man named Lord Barrington many years ago. He was English, very intelligent, had great stories and was very funny. That's crazy.
Joe is a sweet guy God have him in heaven.
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
-Acts 3:19
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If he is heaven would be hell.
He is still alive. He was 900 at the time of the interview like he said so he’s about 1000 now
My paternal grandfather was a slightly less severe version of Joe. He had an incredibly difficult life, eventually drinking to self-medicate. He was institutionalized in the state mental hospital a few times; the family were deeply embarrassed, and told everyone that he had been institutionalized *because* he drank. They were horrible, insensitive people, and even my dad refused to level with me about what was really happening. They preferred a demeaning lie to the truth. (I had to piece the story together long after my grandfather's death, with the help of an estranged family member.)
That was the norm back in the day. Any mental illness (or congenital/physical deformity) was considered shameful and hidden or sent away. 🙁
Thank you for caring about him and trying to understand him ❤ I bet he would have been extremely grateful for that
@@wooww91619 Thank you--I hope so. No one in the family seemed to care enough to tell the truth.
There is nothing to be embarrassed about! I remember mental illness carrying a “hush-hush” stigma when I was little. These people work 1,000 times harder than you or I in a day just to order something to eat! I hope and pray he was able to respond well to different types of treatment. God bless him....l✝️🙏🕊💕😢😊
wow thats awful sending virtual hugs to you
So glad youve reposted this video since another yt channel that listed it was taken down. Thanks
I hope after he gave him the Coke they actually did take him down to socialize and visit with staff or other patients or something, like he really wanted to.
I’m sure socializing when he is motivated for it would be very therapeutic to him, and maybe even his illness.
He is been here for 900years that's truly fascinating
Yeah, it's an obvious delusion
He really was over 900 years old. The sites and memories filled his mind. He was forever youthful until his mind broke. Then sickness took his sanity and his body soon followed.
2:20 If he's been there 900 years, he's doing something right, as he looks a lot younger . . .
I have a lot of psychology courses and worked with many bipolar and schizophrenic patients. They come to me pre diagnosed by healthcare professionals. They are correct in their diagnoses.
He's downtown, uptown... He's everywhere.
Apparently, Joe went on to write over half a dozen romantic novels with policeman and dentist characters as the protagonists in his many wild storylines. This goes to show that one cannot judge a person by their demeanour alone. Joe was certainly a sensitive man at heart to have composed his many books. God bless this man. ☝️🙄
Can you tell me the name of some of those books ?
@@atablevendetta1429 I am sorry but I cannot give specific titles, as the information was conveyed to me by word of mouth by someone I do not know. Perhaps I may have been given false information. 🫣
Thanks for these videos man
Joe was just too quick for the old Doc.
Seems like a gentle soul.
I wonder what became of Joe. The mind is terrifying
Apparently, Joe went on to write over half a dozen romantic novels with policeman and dentist characters as the protagonists in his many wild storylines. This goes to show that one cannot judge a person by their demeanour alone. Joe was certainly a sensitive man at heart to have composed his many books. God bless this man. ☝️🙄
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@@claudiosalib774😂😂😂.
What? Really? Any links? @@claudiosalib774
I think I would be much more willing to go to therapy if they gave me a Coke (back when it was really coke) and let me smoke cigarettes😂
Joe is very good man ❤
Someone that I believe has this disorder attempted to bully me and I often think about him and feel so sad for him because I think he's undiagnosed and even when he spoke to a literal mental health professional they don't detect it. I don't think they do because it's in an infancy that any stress and drug use will extrapolate into full blown detachment from the self awareness needed to help him even begin to treat this. Terrible thing to turn a blind eye to
He is adorable! I wonder what happened to him. It is sad to see that his mind has gone, though.
Nothing good...
Please! What’s sad is how commenters make naive assumptive claims based on minutes of film! Do explain how you know his mind “has gone” or more specifically explain what constitutes a mind. Prove that his mind is gone because if a mind is consciousness produced by the brain then Joe’s mind or brain is very much intact and operating as we can observe. So his mind isn’t somewhere else, anymore than my mind is in that room with those two men observing their conversation. Or is it?
@bushyhairedstranger363 you don't really believe that consciousness is produced by the brain do you?
@@BushyHairedStranger I don't need to prove anything. It is right there for everyone to see. I am a nurse and have worked years and years with people like him. You took an ordinary phrase that I had made and tried to turn it literal when my statement was figurative.
This is my favorite one of these videos because I like Joe, he would be someone fun to be around, I think I would be friends with Joe just to hear him talk, he sounds like he's just confused and scattered but just can't quite get out what he wants to say if you really listen you can understand him, I'm sure Joe is already passed away but I think I'd would have been friends with Joe he's a character for sure, R.I.P Joe you are now free from your confused mind, I also had a brother that was a paranoid schizophrenic, he had a miserable life and passed away at 60 i miss him and Joe kinda reminds me of him just misunderstood like my brother, R.I.P Johnny maybe you and Joe have met in heaven and are good friends, it would be my pleasure if I make it to heaven to sit and talk to you both without earthly mental problems like you both had here, I bet your both very intelligent interesting spirits to talk to.
The problem is that he got exactly what he wanted to say out and even more quickly!
He still alive.
@@kirtjackson1830No way! Source?
"Why are you sitting this way?"...Amazing scientist question....I wonder who is out gaming who...
It seems when the patient is asked a question he gives a confusing answer on purpose, like he is messing with the doctor.
At 8:11 Joe says "that man's a boot teller..." what he actually said (since he's in Montreal, & speaks French) is "bouteiller."
A bouteiller is a man in charge of a wine cellar. It was also a surname in Canada between 1840-1920. Joe had an education, a knowledge in the recesses of his mind. I'm surprised that the doctor didn't pick up on that. How many people would even have that word in their vocabulary in the 1950s?
How can you know the doctor didn't pick up on it?
@@IsmaelMartinezMusic - I'm assuming it Ismael. Not suggesting it's a fact.
I stated it because I found it peculiar that the doctor seemed to gloss over the sentence.
He didn't respond to it, didn't ask the patient what he meant by it, and how he knew that word?
I'm not a psychiatrist or psychologist -- I just thought that it was important. If the doctor did pick up on it then it wasn't in this film. I wondered why?
Maybe the doctor did follow up at a later date, or maybe it wasn't the first time the patient said those words. The doctor may have already been familiar with the speech of this patient. Maybe the film is just a piece of a longer filmed interview we didn't get to see.
@@IsmaelMartinezMusic that Dr is condescending to Joe, just like most psychiatric Drs are to their patients
Have much love for you Joe Maybe meet in Heaven one day my friend
No way I could do this job. I would have lost it:
Doc: How long have you been her?
Joe: I've been here 900 years.
Doc: How did you get here?
Joe: On my four feet.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's sad that I find this funny. I mean no disrespect to him or those that are ill.
You're not the only one----no worries.
😂😂😂😂 It's fucking hilarious and I mean it in no disrespect this guy could be a comedian.
I love this guy.
Tienes el video del paciente que tiene esquizofrénia paranoide y se pienza que le van a disparar???
bro got badass moves
It's crazy to think he didn't recognise himself
He is totally nuts
@@walleyehunter1541 And so are you.
It's funny, even 'normal' people can look at photos of their young self with a lack of familiarity, and, for all we can know, the man and the man in the photo are now perhaps entirely different people.
He's also dangerous
His cranium is deformed. I can’t understand most of what he’s saying when he speaks in English. He’s French Canadian I suppose. Love and compassion will always be the only way we’ll ever help people like this.
No it's not ...
No, he is of italian descend. Listen carefully to his pronunciation. Many italians live in Montreal.
WHY did they delete a lot of your videos? there are a few i like to come back to and they're gone :(
Yes. Please repost as many as you can. I need them also.
This is TH-cam…. If anyone is slightly offended by the truth based on facts the posts are deleted. Just another example of the demise of our first amendment rights. Courtesy of the new woke democrat party.
@@scatdog1 as someone who is very left leaning…. No, it’s not the Democrats lol. Y’all right-wingers really just decided on this one social narrative and apply it to literally everything regardless of any actual relevance or applicability. Saying this is a political move is a quite a reach lol. TH-cam is just TH-cam. I’m 90% sure these videos are taken down because of copyright claims (bc that’s what gets videos taken down 99% of the time.) Of course, none of us in the comment section can 100% know - it’d be a little naive to think your theory is the one and only possible explanation. Have a little common sense. TH-cam doesn’t take down videos based on how many people feel ‘offended’. If you need any proof, look at Eugenia Cooney’s channel and all the shit that her videos are stirring up. If you spent any time on this website, you’d know she definitely isn’t the only one either. The like to dislike ratio is way higher on pika’s videos than most, which means they have very high approval ratings. There are far worse, much more graphic/upsetting videos on here that TH-cam can’t be bothered to touch no matter how many people complain. But of course, you just had to turn this into something to further your political agenda, huh.
@@scatdog1 as someone who is very left leaning…. No, it’s not the Democrats lol. Y’all right-wingers really just decided on this one social narrative and apply it to literally everything regardless of any actual relevance or applicability. Saying this is a political move is a quite a reach lol. TH-cam is just TH-cam. I’m 90% sure these videos are taken down because of copyright claims (bc that’s what gets videos taken down 99% of the time.) Of course, none of us in the comment section can 100% know - it’d be a little naive to think your theory is the one and only possible explanation. Have a little common sense. TH-cam doesn’t take down videos based on how many people feel ‘offended’. If you need any proof, look at Eugenia Cooney’s channel and all the shit that her videos are stirring up. If you spent any time on this website, you’d know she definitely isn’t the only one either. The like to dislike ratio is way higher on pika’s videos than most, which means they have very high approval ratings. There are far worse, much more graphic/upsetting videos on here that TH-cam can’t be bothered to touch no matter how many people complain. But of course, you just had to turn this into something to further your political agenda. It gets tiring.
The deleted ones were the ones with actors
There was definitely a version of this on TH-cam at some point that had captions, if I can figure out how to add captions to this video I definitely will
Joe sounds more normal than most of my coworkers
😂
You must work at Walmart
He's more normal than modern society
He says he used to make $100 a week wow that was good for back then.
REMINDS ME OF A COMEDY DUO. THE DOCTOR BEING THE STRAIGHT MAN.
typing in all caps, what are you 70 years old? get off the internet, grandpa
He s a realy cool guy.
He is for sure more healthy than the Doktor!
i swear i heard someone talk like that, always off topic pulling nonsense from he's heel, like we say and very quickly like he believes what he just said and not like he just came up with it millisecond ago, it was a homeless guy in our town he was hanging around our town for over 10 years
The LiveLeak watermark. 😂
The Drs questions were more abstract than Joe's answers. Joe knew exactly what Joe was talking about. May God Bless the Soul of this man.
He makes more sense than most people in this world...
It's always interesting watching these interviews with real people. I wonder how pharmacological treatment changes the behaviour of severely mentally ill patients.
I deal with schizophrenics in my work, but their symptoms are much less severe. Most of them are able to perform basic functions such as grocery shopping with out issues. All on medication of course.
In past decades the mentally ill (schizophrenic) patients the government used to institutionalized them in mental asylums or psychiatric hospitals but through the years big pharma companies have developed more powerful drugs to help them to cope with daily life functions.
You right today’s mentally ill function better on their own because of the most efficient drugs and treatment.
And all that medication just hurts them!!
@@barneyronnie For the vast majority of schizophrenics that's just not true.
@@tuolinkantaja The effect is mainly a Placebo and the side effects of the medications are damaging.
but the side effects are really bad@@tuolinkantaja
I don't know about today, but in the 20th century at least, English-speaking Montrealers proudly thought they had the best accent in the whole English-speaking world. To me, this doctor's speech is evidence that they may well have been right.
I kept expecting him to rub both hands and say, I ain't got no reason to kill nobody, um hmm!!
I see a good psych and while many people feel for the patients I also feel for the doctors because of how hard diagnosing and treating is much of the time and its thankless. While I consider myself a reasonable case think of how hard it must be to try and treat someone such as this man or others that seem beyond help.
How the doctor doesn't pull his hair out and demand solid answers from this man is a mystery
@@JB-or9yw He's not looking for any answers from him. Just wants to know how his mind works.
I'm 300 years and never see this guy before.
😆
too young..
Notice the mark/scar on the right side of his head?
I wonder if that was due to out dated, damaging mental medical treatment.
Apparently off camera the doctor lost patience with Joe and gave him a back hander sending him to floor. Joe got up and was speaking normal. He threw the coke bottle at the doctor, walked out and hitchhiked his way to LA. He eventually met up with Lou Reed and helped compose the lyrics to Take a Walk on the Wild Side.
Lol😂, my do you have a wild side ❤
I like the way you think! ☝️🙄
joe is a vibe
Not ready to go home yet.....😢
who is this Interviewer? I've seen him with many patients and he is so empathetic
He was a good doctor... Psychiatrist Heinz Lehmann
That's Dj Koze 🎧😆😉 in his previous life as a hustling healer
He was involved with MK ULTRA. He was a monster@@maiii...7125
@@maiii...7125 There were many great Germans Heinz is one of them. 👍
On break my hart.
I BEEN HERE 34.000 YEARS AND I NEVER SEE THIS GUY AROUND
mental illness is rising in the world this century god bless these soul ,
He seems a little more focused on the second interview
You should check out this doctor. He was heavily involved in the MK Ultra Project and torture
What is the doctors name?
@@brookewheeler3802 Heinz Lehmann
Damn dude
When even people in training have the opprotunity to see these very important films, the fact that they subject has a shaved head tells them nothing. They basically did whatever they want to these unfortunate people and there is no actual 'science' involved.
Source?
He reminds me of Beetlejuice from the Howard Stern show.
What happened to Joe? Where was he from?
❤
It was not easy then for people intolerant of smoke.
😁🤣😆😁😎🤩 rigtfully taking the piss of someone who dears to stand above and call himself authority' really cool and a funny client!
Now I want a cigarette!
Imagine this guy flying a plane full of passengers on holiday!
He used to be so handsome!
I guess they didn't have good meds in those days!
He's not crazy!..he's doing his best impression of Chico Marx.
I thought it was Groucho . . .
That's crazy.
He could be shell shocked, he looks the right age for a WW2 vet.
One Flew over the Coocoo’s Nest comes to mind !!!
cool, blatant stigma. congratulations on being part of the problem 👍
@@b.jr.7816I’m Sorry You Feel That You’re are Experiencing a Stigma , However Blatant You May Feel At This Moment ? I Often Find Comfort In a Empty Painting Frame That I Hang Because I Can See Whatever I Wish within It’s Boundaries and You as a Visitor May Actually See Something Else Within The Frame ! I Would At Least Hope You Could !?? Enjoy Your Flatulence And Giggle At The Same Instant !!! It Works Wonders For Self Preservation of the Mind !!!
Maybe interviewing in his own language would have helped to be clearer. He's clearly French canadien
Agent Smith trying to break down Prometheus
That complete disorder ... Wow ....
So this man couldn't at all distinguish his delusions and reality.
He's very cheerful for being a schizophrenic
Sick in the winter or in the summer.
8:33 😂
This is just a normal French Canadian
the patient? The doctor is a German who emigrated to Canada.
He is a genious.
His name is Joe? Is his last name Biden by any chance?
😂😂👍
Nah his name is Trump who had to pay a woman he raped and was impeached twice.and was a friend of Epstein..and owes 350 million..and has millions of fool cultists.. this guy is a gem compared to him.
5:41 cameraman laughed
Are you sure he wasn't a patient of Dr. Cameron?
Der Arzt ist überheblich und führt seinen Patienten vor.
From 3:26 to 3:43 lol 😂😂😂.
Poor guy
I watch all schizophrenic patents are smoking 🚬
Is this the boy .Yeah sweet guy.not abs, better sound
They never used the term "Abs" at this time' It wasn't util the 80's that it was in use. I thought that he said "Sweet kid".
@@Valkonnen You are correct about "abs"! Stay tuned...I've turned the case over to scholars of the Yiddish language to interpret beyond what I'm able to, which language Joe speaks when not speaking English. He even says so, at 9:03, that he speaks "half Jewish, half English"; of course "Jewish" is nothing other than Yiddish, which, as you might know, is what the Y-word translates directly as. Furthermore, Joe states that he speaks not much French ("just a little bit", at 9:06) when asked by Dr. Lehman/Lemmon. Perhaps Dr. L thinks that Joe is lapsing into French because they are situated in Canada and Montreal is a topic. If so, this avuncular interviewer might be brilliant in medicine, but he'd be no polyglot.
Speech apraxia with autism it looks like to me
What if we humans actually got 4 feet but we can't see them 🤔🤔
How many of these subjects are autistic gaslit?
He sounds like an Italian Mafioso
Tony montana😅😅
The smoking really bothers me
From a mystic's perspective, he means he's been in *existence* for 900 years, who knows how a neuroscientist with a panpsychist view would eat that up, when he says hes sick in the blood he does not mean pressure, he means his genetic makeup is wrong, and he understands this on some level, as well he keeps referring to himself in the picture as an other person because in time as one changes one might as well see a former image of their self as having been someone else... I mean he illuatrates some savvy intellect for someone mentally Ill... i wouldnt say thia is illness as much as its just nurasynapses have been meshed out of order
*When you attempt to make sense of a mentally ill person, this is what you come up with*
@@amado4249 haha.. and is it any better or worse than the last hundred some odd years of failed, so-called, analysis of the psyche?
@AJ. No. He doesn't know what he means, at all. This is hebephrenic schizophrenia. The lens through which he views the world and himself is entirely fractured. He doesn't know he is sick, at all. All he knows is that this place is where he is staying. His mind is unreachable and these are not cryptic words of insight. I lived with 3 schizophrenics, my siblings, who fell ill with this disease in their teens. They are now in their 50s and 60s. Drugs have improved their quality of life, making them more peaceful, but delusional thinking, hallucinations and loss of any fixed orientation to reality is still profound. It is now known that this disease is carried along genetic lines. Our family participated in a research study for this illness. Our DNA was examined, and a genetic marker was found that came from the Welsh side of the family. Every generation of that bloodline had family that were in stricken with this illness. Out of 8 children in my family, 3 became schizophrenics. It was a very traumatic diagnosis for my folks and nearly drove my dad crazy.
Se tornaram esquizofrênicos na adolescência? Desculpe perguntar , antes de se tornarem doentes, como eles eram no dia a dia? Como perceberam que estavam adoecendo? Algum deles usaram drogas? Sinto pelas perguntas, e se puder responder, agradeço. Imagino que não deve ter sido fácil para seu pai e mãe.
@@eileenhetherington3704 for thousands of years people with these afflictions have been a sort of unwanted friction to society, and for thousands of years most of us have gotten it wrong. Sages and mystics have always understood these 'afflictions' for what they are. Schizophrenic are not mentally 'ill', they're uninhibited. As Sadhguru once said, leave the fool alone for he is not insane, his mind is just with God...
That guy was really disordered. It's always difficult but
This video is probably where they got the idea for 'minions'.
I would argue that this film inspired the Abbot and Costello comedy duo. ☝️🙄
I am not absolutely convinced that this man is really sick.
He's playing a comfort issue of diversion.
Too much compassion oursides.
Put the guy in a real stress situation and you'll have a big surprise.
The be all nutters
Just highly misunderstood and sensitive souls, we’re only souls at the end of the day
He's already gone lol he's no longer suffering. It's sad and strange but solving disorders like these probably requires gene editing which may be 200 years away or maybe we will never figure it out. Until then like .04 to one percent of the population suffers to varying degrees like this.