One of my great-grandmothers suffered from what we'd probably now call PTSD. She was a World War II refugee. They lost everything, including two babies. She couldn't work anymore by the time they got to the USA, so the doctors here suggested shock therapy for her depression and panic attacks. When that didn't work, they lobotomized her. She became childlike and spent 25 years in a place like this. My grandma had four babies herself and couldn't take care of her mother, who needed around the clock care and supervision. The guilt from that haunted my grandma all her life. The nice old 50s weren't always so nice. Love you, Granny. ❤️ You didn't know. You did your best.
In the 70s we had at our junior school, an old chap who used to walk the school grounds, cut the grass and paint white lines on the playing field. He had a younger brother who was the school janitor. I once over heard the janitor tell the school principal that “ my brothers been away and had that electro shock treatment” that always stuck in my mind. I felt sorry for him afterwards
My mom had that same treatment in the 1980s. I was only 3 or 5. She told me how they did it and basically treated them like cattle. The Dr used my mom as a guinea pig. My mom's Dr passed away a few weeks ago. There was a big article in the paper that his interests were, especially in pharmacology with the brain. 😢 My mom finally got better after 10 years. She was sick when I was 1 until I was 10. Thankfully, my grandmother helped raise me. My dad traveled a lot as a chemical engineer.
They were called lunatic asylums, they should have not closed them down in the 1980s ..The repulsive woke world that people tolerate now is possible worse than anytime in human history ..you talk about the 1950s as if it not better than now !
Living-if-you-could-call-it-that, and dying, on a dirty sidewalk in the slums of some big city, unfed, unhoused, unclean, unfed, constantly tortured by the visions and voices in your head -- if you don't think that that is more horrifying, well, I won't say anything more, because it might prove offensive.
@@johneeeemarry34 Woke has exactly nothing to do with anything, but you just couldn't not take the opportunity to squeeze it in somehow as if it did, could you? The asylums were closed when tax-hating Republicans in state governments, from Caliornia's governor Ronald Reagan on down, wanted to eliminate them as costly budget items, and found that they were somehow on the same side as a 1960s liberal "patients' rights" movement that foolishly dreamed that the released patients and the mentally ill of the future would have fun, nice, healthy "care in the community" paired with the new psychiatric medicines, and intensive psychotherapy. At the same time, they decided the modern civil-rights approach would be to let the very severely mentally ill "be in charge of their own treatment," able to turn down help or stop taking medications at will. Freedom! Aren't you people supposed to be for "Freedom?" And I don't want to say you are an idiot, but with all due respect, if you seriously argue that the modern world "is possibly worse than anytime in human history," then my friend, you have just said it about yourself. Catch a clue.
I was put into a psych-ward after a severe depressive episode. I was put on hold for 3 days. I was extremely depressed, it was horrible (the way I felt). I didn't belong in a psych-ward, the staff was fantastic BUT I was sooooo scared. I felt like I was never going to get out, I had no family so I didn't get visits and I was too embarrassed to tell the few close friends I had. I thought they would see that no one was visiting me and think that I was crazy. I thought they would see me go into my room and cry because I was lonely and think I was crazy. I have very thick hair for a guy and it looked a mess after a day, I thought they would leave me there because of my appearance. I would walk around the ward all day as I was so bored and would get scared because I thought they would think I was crazy for doing this. I almost lost my job (I had a high position at a large corporation) - I called in but I NEVER called in for 7 years straight. Again, the staff was very good and I am thankful for them BUT I was surprised that I could be forced there and that it would be for 3 days - I am still upset about that. Ultimately during that phase in life, I had addiction issues, horrible depression - I lost 3 people close to me and my GF left me suddenly. In the end, I got fired, I lost my condo and a lot of my retirement. All I have is my 15 year old dachshund - I've done odd jobs but I have yet to regain full time employment (it's been 10 months!) - I actually get the line "you're overqualified" - I hate that. I don't know if I will ever or want to climb the corporate chain again. I want a paycheck, healthcare and a 401k - I miss that. I'm 45 and I'm starting all over again. It's so weird.
keep your chin up---i was not depressed enough to qualify for an institutional setting but i sure felt despondent. you can nearly always build yourself up again but maybe take a lesser position. i also have addiction issues and abuse shit from my past. and it takes time to find a job, maybe God is protecting you from unnecessary stress and ppls bs right now. take care and dont be so hard on yourself.
@@jennydoucette2538 thank you Jenny! 8 months later and I have a job! I can’t say I’m stable quite yet but I’ve met some new really great friends. I appreciate the comment, it was very sweet.
@6:51 the "competent medical examiners" just shine a flashlight in a guy's eye and nod to each like "Yep those are dead eyes. Send him to the snake pit"
Very interesting video. It must be remembered that psychiatry was still in its infancy back then, and schizophrenia was new territory as far as drug therapy went. Insulin-shock was common treatment for it. Electroshock therapy was used for manic depression (bipolar disorder), and lithium was added later when it was shown to be effective for treating manic episodes.
It's still in its infancy, and though our methods are more refined, they are more directed at profiteering, too. Cognitive behavioral therapy and hypnosis are the keys to the mind, but we prefer pumping pills into people, because it's what keeps the pockets lined.
It's still in its infancy. The field of psychiatry and diagnosis is nothing more than pseudo science and anecdotal, experimental care. It's a revenue machine.
From the Mayo Clinic website: “Much of the stigma attached to ECT is based on early treatments in which high doses of electricity were administered without anesthesia, leading to memory loss, fractured bones and other serious side effects.”
Did some research on the insulin shock therapy, very interesting because I hadn't heard about it at all. I read that after a high dose of insulin patients would slip into a somewhat of a "controlled coma" and some psychiatrists would purposely give these patients seizures they were thought to be therapeutic? Weird stuff.
Back in the fifties, most movies and short videos were using mono sound only a right or left channel. This film used left channel. Hence your are listing to mono on the left.
They made no reference to, "The Lead Pill Treatment." Wherein a 125grain piece of lead, .357 Thousandths of an inch in diameter, traveling at 1300 feet per second, is directed to travel through the patient's head. Incredibly, the treatment takes only a fraction of a second. As far as the treatments success, patients are unwilling to comment.
I've been where that guy is...well,not *exactly* where he is,bc i live in Alabama, but i know the fear,the feeling of betrayal i had at age 15 when my parents had no other choice but to admit me to a psych hospital for my own good. Undiagnosed PTSD from CSA,along with what we would now call Bipolar Affectative Disorder and Panic Attacks were my diagnosis. As much as i hated and resented my parents for putting me there, once i quit being a knucklehead, staff was able to help me get my life back. Now,i'm 45,and working in college towards my Clinical Mental Health Therapist degree,specializing in Childhood Trauma. I want to at least intern at the facility that saved my life.
I suspect every other patient except for "Fred." In that day and age it was all right to film mental cases for educational purposes. Nowadays a script has to be written and actors hired, to pretend to be mental patients, instead of showing medical students the real thing, which would seem preferable in any such situation. Nowadays it's like they handed a surgery student a plastic heart to practice on and said: "When you get in the OR and do your first heart surgery it'll look like kinda like this!"
Actually I found a link from the Oklahoman with more information about it if anyone else is curious. oklahoman.com/article/5364099/tbt-mental-hospital-shows-life-inside-1950s-oklahoma-facility
@@Mike-wt2xs Thanks for sharing the article from the Oklahoman. I originally uploaded the video from TH-cam and asked my students to watch it and discuss in a course I teach. At some point, I discovered that the original post was removed, so I uploaded it for students to view. You will see credits at the beginning and end of the video that show you where it came from.
the psych hospital i was in when i was 15 had some amazing food. Going down to the cafeteria was a privilige, but even the stuff they sent up on the dumb waiter was amazing
Man if I somehow got thrown back into the 1950's and knew I was headed for the nut house, this kid would quickly be looking for a big swan dive from the nearest high rise.
maybe the brain numbing drugs Real Fact (in at least Australia) if you comply completely they tie you down and inject you with heavy drugs, drugs you cant overdose on but cook your mind beyond repair
@J Hemphill ayo idk if you're here with no prior knowledge of how shit worked back then but people used shock therapy and lobotomies to "cure" whatever the fuck was up with the patient,even though in most cases it left them pretty much braindead. Besides that they admitted people with just depression,anxiety or anything else that is more common and just a tad easier to deal with that psychosis,ptsd e.t.c. There were a few cases in which non mentally ill or disturbed patients were admitted,for no other reason other than their sexuality. These places weren't heaven,this bullshit is all just a front for crappy treatment.
Currently in Oregon State Psychopathic Institue. I’m about to graduate with a PhD in ‘Hyper Violent Evisceration’ and a Masters degree in ‘Messianic Disposition Syndrome’ I had extremely HIGH marks in Religious Mystical Experience. Yup, it’s Wicked Ass!
I had spinal fliud removed because my body produced too much and it caused pressure on my brain and eyes. If I didn't have it removed I would've died from lack of oxygen in my brain from too much pressure. It's called Cranial Hypertention.
Pretty interesting. Kinda sad that it sounds so nice, but those places weren't that nice. At least we can say we've come a long way since then. Although I don't know why they still use electro shock therapy...
It might be interesting to consider: this video is made by sane persons in an effort to understand what's happening to the insane person (nomenclature out-of-date on my part is purely accidental) in an effort to understand with the hope of curing whatever ails. LSD was used by practitioners and researchers in the psychiatric fields. It wasn't illegal, and didn't have a stigma since it wasn't readily available outside of a clinical setting. LSD was thought to provide insight into scizophrenia (sp?). From the beginning, this video looks like it was produced for a student audience by clinicians who may, or may not have experimented with LSD and are trying to re-create the atmosphere felt, on camera. Weird. I bet it was excellent LSD.
it was a magical new wonder-drug through to have promising cure-all capabilities in the realm of mental health and abnormal psychology. Nothing really bad happened to it until the government in the '70s went "lol no thats ours now," when they made scheduled it a more severe/addictive drug than cocaine. How odd.
Oh! This is such a crock! There was so much abuse that the Governor of Ohio had every single hospital for the mentally ill investigated. What he found was apalling. Just in one hospital in Stark County they discharged 792 people who didn't belong there and fired the Superintendent along with other staff. These were not nice places and they seldom helped anyone.
1910's to the 1970's were the developmental era of medicine. We discovered how the human body works greatly. If it wasn't for these poor peoples sacrifice. We wouldnt have the medicine, treatments and technology we do today. Sad, but its very true.
@@meeksde No what was communicated, very clearly, is that while this treatment is sad and horrific to you and I in 2021, during the time of this videos production they were using the best technologies and best practices known. To jump the shark and immediately violate Godwins law by bringing up Hitler is repulsive. Nothing Hitler authorized was intended to try and assist patients being tested. Its easy to be virtuous about a time you've clearly not studied and likely didn't live through but it would be more appropriate to withhold judgement when you lack the reason and rationality to do so.
@@willsweat5413 Notice that I was not responding to YOU. These poor peoples “sacrifice” (as @bigazzham suggests) was not a sacrifice, it was experiments done on humans without consent ... much like “experiments” conducted on humans by in nazi death camps. I wonder where he got the idea.... after all, he did enjoy reading some of Margaret Sanger and other American eugenics works. Go ahead. Use more of your high powered philosophical jumbo jumbo to justify your agreement for such American experiments.
I think films like this were intended as a mercy to alleviate the guilt and sadness of people who put those they loved but could not care for into institutions. And also probably to advertise their services to doctors, hospitals, etc.
At the height of the V.N. War I had to "face myself and think". That was the slogan of The Pacific Gospel Mission in Chicago. God was calling me out from a terrible life of sin. I was a hitchhiker back when that was a feasible way to get around. On one jaunt, a mid age woman picked me up--I was about 23. She knew I was homeless and said she had a couch I could sleep on. She had to make one stop though first. She pulled up at the mental dept of the local hospital and said she would be right back. A couple minutes later two policemen seized me and took me to the County mental hospital. They put me on Thorazine. Òther officers forced a lady into the mental ward and she went up and down the halls calling on Jesus Christ to save her. Some interns wrestled her to the ground and shot her full of meds. A patient took his false teeth out and put them under my pillow. While a patient was eating lunch in the cafeteria, another came and gave him a round house right in the chops. I had to meet with a doctor who had a string tie on with a serpent tie clip. Thank God my mother offered asylum at her house. I had anorexia for a year and lost 50 pounds. She said she would cook for me and get me well. But what really healed my mind and body was my Savior and Lord, Jesus Christ. In the time before He saved me though, I tried suicide twice, with one more trip to the nutter.
Sometimes a whole family after being labelled disfunctional could become subjected to surveillance beginning during the 1960's without their consent. The assistants in that program would then have to offer costly 'free' programs to members of that family while those assistants were being paid far less than they deserved. Those assistants were only doing what any caring biological mother does when at home with an infant. Why the surveillance?
Speaking as a retired UK psychiatrist I think we have lost a huge amount by abandoning these therapeutic communities. Of course we are held back by a common enemy. MANAGEMENT !
@@broadkast477 I'm more concerned with the psychopathy exhibited in the people running entire governments and corporations. The narcissism displayed on Tiktok and Twitter are mere symptoms of a leadership with the same traits. They're just mirroring the people running the circus.
This film while while apparently well meaning individuals. Places such as Pennhurst treated people horribly. Hospitals varied in goodness and badness. All too commonly people who were not mentally ill were committed. If someone with a seizure disorder (epilepsy) was committed shock treatment could destroy their chance of controlling their seizures. Commitment was all too often without due process. As medications were developed to control psychoses a push for deinstitutionalization to take most of the mentally ill out of the hospitals and give them their lives back. The problem was that all too often kept them from getting employment and housing. Many companies have/had policies of never hiring anyone who had ever had a "nervous breakdown", a term that no longer has any legal meaning. Yes, I consider myself a human rights advocate. Earlier in my life I ran afoul of the institutionalization push of the 50's. The Asiatic Flu pandemic created the problem. The LA PTA clinic recommended institualization at the them Camarillo State hospital. (Converted to a university after it's closure in 1997.) That would have been disastrous as my condition would have been way worsened. Fortunately my parents didn't fall for it. Years later the seizure disorder was correctly diagnosed and very successfully put under control. I got my life back. I still faced discrimination and a devalued ego but my life was back. Thank God there was no 5150 or Baker Act to trap me then.
i feel ya..i was in three hospitals, and the care was incredibly well planned, we were treated with dignity, we were warm,clothed, well bedded, and the food in all 3 was beyond delicious.an event to look forward to as a very tasty marker of time of day. this time of yr in 95,i was in hospital for the last time. Alabama/Auburn is the big football rivalry here,and we were even given an event party by the staff, who partied with us. we watched it on a huge screen tv.
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Who is watching this in the year 2024?
One of my great-grandmothers suffered from what we'd probably now call PTSD. She was a World War II refugee. They lost everything, including two babies. She couldn't work anymore by the time they got to the USA, so the doctors here suggested shock therapy for her depression and panic attacks. When that didn't work, they lobotomized her. She became childlike and spent 25 years in a place like this. My grandma had four babies herself and couldn't take care of her mother, who needed around the clock care and supervision. The guilt from that haunted my grandma all her life. The nice old 50s weren't always so nice. Love you, Granny. ❤️ You didn't know. You did your best.
They still give electric shock, but now call it ECT and would still lobotomize if they could .
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
They gave her exactly what she did not need !
Sometimes life can be so, so cruel.
In the 70s we had at our junior school, an old chap who used to walk the school grounds, cut the grass and paint white lines on the playing field. He had a younger brother who was the school janitor. I once over heard the janitor tell the school principal that “ my brothers been away and had that electro shock treatment” that always stuck in my mind. I felt sorry for him afterwards
It really is horrible. Unfortunately, the “treatment” is still used today.
😢😢 so sad is a sad word we live in
@@dewilew2137 ECT works really well and I would have it again, if it was offered.
My mom had that same treatment in the 1980s. I was only 3 or 5. She told me how they did it and basically treated them like cattle. The Dr used my mom as a guinea pig. My mom's Dr passed away a few weeks ago. There was a big article in the paper that his interests were, especially in pharmacology with the brain. 😢 My mom finally got better after 10 years. She was sick when I was 1 until I was 10. Thankfully, my grandmother helped raise me. My dad traveled a lot as a chemical engineer.
@invisibleenby8121, it might now. But it was barbaric in State Hospitals and even private in the 80s and before that.
Thanks my left ear really enjoyed this.
I know right lol
Hahaha very clever!
Old recording, done in mono.
Fuck yeah I was thinking the same thing
Now I totally understand this comment....
I can’t imagine something more horrifying then a psychological asylum during the 50s
Couldn't agree more.
😮😮
They were called lunatic asylums, they should have not closed them down in the 1980s ..The repulsive woke world that people tolerate now is possible worse than anytime in human history ..you talk about the 1950s as if it not better than now !
Living-if-you-could-call-it-that, and dying, on a dirty sidewalk in the slums of some big city, unfed, unhoused, unclean, unfed, constantly tortured by the visions and voices in your head -- if you don't think that that is more horrifying, well, I won't say anything more, because it might prove offensive.
@@johneeeemarry34 Woke has exactly nothing to do with anything, but you just couldn't not take the opportunity to squeeze it in somehow as if it did, could you? The asylums were closed when tax-hating Republicans in state governments, from Caliornia's governor Ronald Reagan on down, wanted to eliminate them as costly budget items, and found that they were somehow on the same side as a 1960s liberal "patients' rights" movement that foolishly dreamed that the released patients and the mentally ill of the future would have fun, nice, healthy "care in the community" paired with the new psychiatric medicines, and intensive psychotherapy. At the same time, they decided the modern civil-rights approach would be to let the very severely mentally ill "be in charge of their own treatment," able to turn down help or stop taking medications at will. Freedom! Aren't you people supposed to be for "Freedom?"
And I don't want to say you are an idiot, but with all due respect, if you seriously argue that the modern world "is possibly worse than anytime in human history," then my friend, you have just said it about yourself. Catch a clue.
Can’t imagine what really went on behind closed doors for real!! After that video they took. They made it look like Disney Land!!!
I was put into a psych-ward after a severe depressive episode. I was put on hold for 3 days. I was extremely depressed, it was horrible (the way I felt).
I didn't belong in a psych-ward, the staff was fantastic BUT I was sooooo scared. I felt like I was never going to get out, I had no family so I didn't get visits and I was too embarrassed to tell the few close friends I had.
I thought they would see that no one was visiting me and think that I was crazy. I thought they would see me go into my room and cry because I was lonely and think I was crazy. I have very thick hair for a guy and it looked a mess after a day, I thought they would leave me there because of my appearance. I would walk around the ward all day as I was so bored and would get scared because I thought they would think I was crazy for doing this.
I almost lost my job (I had a high position at a large corporation) - I called in but I NEVER called in for 7 years straight.
Again, the staff was very good and I am thankful for them BUT I was surprised that I could be forced there and that it would be for 3 days - I am still upset about that.
Ultimately during that phase in life, I had addiction issues, horrible depression - I lost 3 people close to me and my GF left me suddenly. In the end, I got fired, I lost my condo and a lot of my retirement. All I have is my 15 year old dachshund - I've done odd jobs but I have yet to regain full time employment (it's been 10 months!) - I actually get the line "you're overqualified" - I hate that. I don't know if I will ever or want to climb the corporate chain again. I want a paycheck, healthcare and a 401k - I miss that. I'm 45 and I'm starting all over again. It's so weird.
🙏🙏❤️❤️
keep your chin up---i was not depressed enough to qualify for an institutional setting but i sure felt despondent. you can nearly always build yourself up again but maybe take a lesser position. i also have addiction issues and abuse shit from my past. and it takes time to find a job, maybe God is protecting you from unnecessary stress and ppls bs right now. take care and dont be so hard on yourself.
401k! what job do you have?
@@jennydoucette2538 thank you Jenny! 8 months later and I have a job! I can’t say I’m stable quite yet but I’ve met some new really great friends. I appreciate the comment, it was very sweet.
@@Initium1000 youre welcome!
"A cigarette from the Doctor." 😂😂😂😂😂
@6:51 the "competent medical examiners" just shine a flashlight in a guy's eye and nod to each like "Yep those are dead eyes. Send him to the snake pit"
My doctor had told me I had a bad case of nerves and suggested smoking menthol cigarettes. 60 years later, I still do. I
your kidding?
Very interesting video. It must be remembered that psychiatry was still in its infancy back then, and schizophrenia was new territory as far as drug therapy went. Insulin-shock was common treatment for it. Electroshock therapy was used for manic depression (bipolar disorder), and lithium was added later when it was shown to be effective for treating manic episodes.
The first ever antipsychotic medication, chlorpromazine, was introduced barely a year before this video, in 1952.
It's still in its infancy, and though our methods are more refined, they are more directed at profiteering, too. Cognitive behavioral therapy and hypnosis are the keys to the mind, but we prefer pumping pills into people, because it's what keeps the pockets lined.
My mother was experimented on with Lithium and electroshock and a host of other meds. 20 meds a day. Thankfully she became well 10 years later.
It's still in its infancy. The field of psychiatry and diagnosis is nothing more than pseudo science and anecdotal, experimental care. It's a revenue machine.
i'm so terrified that if i was born back then this could've been my reality
Why?
Now imagine if u were black.look up cherry hospital nc
th-cam.com/video/YC5AU68y8N0/w-d-xo.html
@@meeksde what do you mean why, the world was more cruel and not as open minded as it is now. Times are different.
@@Berked2Hard
But she wasn’t born back then. The point is moot.
Frightening how clueless they were on mental health treatments. The worst was the electronic shocks.
From the Mayo Clinic website:
“Much of the stigma attached to ECT is based on early treatments in which high doses of electricity were administered without anesthesia, leading to memory loss, fractured bones and other serious side effects.”
Done by force still today ! Total disregard for a persons body and identity.
@@alinalemanska2029ECT is not done by force today.
I've genuinely seen comments from people that have received them and said they helped.
they are an effective treatment actually.
Did some research on the insulin shock therapy, very interesting because I hadn't heard about it at all. I read that after a high dose of insulin patients would slip into a somewhat of a "controlled coma" and some psychiatrists would purposely give these patients seizures they were thought to be therapeutic? Weird stuff.
Dr said.." why do you think they're doing you this way?" And I died!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If you think this is propaganda go look up what happened at Willowbrook😭
Absolutely! Horrible!
" overall most patients are happy " Did he really say that ?? Uggghh lies lies
So many say, they all pretended to be happy and to get out of that hell hole !
At the end it says they weren't actual patients. This is a propaganda film.
And today the mentally ill are homeless and very hungry so we need a better solution
Makes me wonder how many scenes on this movie were acted and how many were real.
I believe this was filmed at Griffin Memorial Hospital, formerly Central State Hospital, in Norman, Oklahoma.
Am i the only one who hears audio only on one side?
Nope only my left ear was privileged to hear the narrator lol
Back in the fifties, most movies and short videos were using mono sound only a right or left channel. This film used left channel. Hence your are listing to mono on the left.
Mmm... terrifying. Thanks for sharing.
I think they should bring these back.
Wow...that oughta do it. Such a sad looking place...
“Most of them are happy.” Really? Did they take a survey?
This guy was lucky, he got out in 6 months most people go in and don't come out,
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17:00 "A cigarette from the doctor, and Fred's hand is steady!" Classic!
Bull Street Asylum in the previous video had lots of ‘Happy’ people as well as other horrendous places at that time.
This is a bleak, but very interesting peek into mental health's past. Thanks for sharing, Dr. Norton.
What I want to know is who's George and why is he hanging around Betty so much 🤔
Betty was hot. Bet all were wondering.
They made no reference to, "The Lead Pill Treatment." Wherein a 125grain piece of lead, .357 Thousandths of an inch in diameter, traveling at 1300 feet per second, is directed to travel through the patient's head. Incredibly, the treatment takes only a fraction of a second. As far as the treatments success, patients are unwilling to comment.
Seems like you go in there, and Become Crazier.
Oldschool prapaganda
if i lived back then my frontal lobe would be like scrambled eggs
They prob would take a chunk out of it
That theme song...”let my people go....” so eerie!
So many elderly individuals
Were placed in state hospitals
Just to get them out of
The way
My grandma stayed at St Elizabeth in DC..she was young and it was so sad. She had schizophrenia and epilepsy.. imagine shock treatments..
dang,they were thorough with that intake exam back in the day. we never had to have a spinal tap.
I've been where that guy is...well,not *exactly* where he is,bc i live in Alabama, but i know the fear,the feeling of betrayal i had at age 15 when my parents had no other choice but to admit me to a psych hospital for my own good. Undiagnosed PTSD from CSA,along with what we would now call Bipolar Affectative Disorder and Panic Attacks were my diagnosis. As much as i hated and resented my parents for putting me there, once i quit being a knucklehead, staff was able to help me get my life back. Now,i'm 45,and working in college towards my Clinical Mental Health Therapist degree,specializing in Childhood Trauma. I want to at least intern at the facility that saved my life.
It’s a shame the hospitals in his day were made to torture and not help.
This could be me right now those me into a hospital because reality I just can't take it no more.
I’m with you
Remember that old movie where the guy was in a hospital... he was in the war and he lost his vision. It was really weird I forgot the name!
Could it be Johnny got his gun?
I wonder how many in this video are actual patients as opposed to actors
I suspect every other patient except for "Fred." In that day and age it was all right to film mental cases for educational purposes. Nowadays a script has to be written and actors hired, to pretend to be mental patients, instead of showing medical students the real thing, which would seem preferable in any such situation. Nowadays it's like they handed a surgery student a plastic heart to practice on and said: "When you get in the OR and do your first heart surgery it'll look like kinda like this!"
@@anthonypearsall5851 I guess for HPAA reasons they have to do that, but it is better for the students to see the real mentally ill
I cannot imagine the horrors.
I am partially deaf. I only really hear in mono sound. not stereo. Sound so the monotone sound is great 👍
Wait...Fred was prescribed with what!? Insulin shock can kill you!
Yes, that was a kind of therapy. Insulin shock therapy
And so can radiation and pumping chemicals into your veins, but they’ve become the standard treatments for cancer.
Yes
This is a great video; does anyone have a citation for it or more sources on where it is from?
Actually I found a link from the Oklahoman with more information about it if anyone else is curious.
oklahoman.com/article/5364099/tbt-mental-hospital-shows-life-inside-1950s-oklahoma-facility
@@Mike-wt2xs Thanks for sharing the article from the Oklahoman. I originally uploaded the video from TH-cam and asked my students to watch it and discuss in a course I teach. At some point, I discovered that the original post was removed, so I uploaded it for students to view. You will see credits at the beginning and end of the video that show you where it came from.
great for Hannibal Lecter
I find it all very fascinating
the psych hospital i was in when i was 15 had some amazing food. Going down to the cafeteria was a privilige, but even the stuff they sent up on the dumb waiter was amazing
You were blessed. I know a place in Ohio.....bugs in the salad, cigarette butts in the soup, powdered eggs, powdered milk, yikes!
Forced Insulin Shock?? Good lord. Also I don't think ANYONE would miss being at a mental hospital...
Man if I somehow got thrown back into the 1950's and knew I was headed for the nut house, this kid would quickly be looking for a big swan dive from the nearest high rise.
Except there were no high rises then 😄
At least they don’t have to pay 2000 dollars for a 1 bedroom rent
This is fucking creepy, why did I search this up
People were locked away in institutions n forgotten about
Ohhhhhhhh, if only that was the way it really was!
"Overall most patients are happy"! Why would they have been at the hospital if they had been happy?
maybe the brain numbing drugs
Real Fact (in at least Australia) if you comply completely they tie you down and inject you with heavy drugs, drugs you cant overdose on but cook your mind beyond repair
@J Hemphill ayo idk if you're here with no prior knowledge of how shit worked back then but people used shock therapy and lobotomies to "cure" whatever the fuck was up with the patient,even though in most cases it left them pretty much braindead. Besides that they admitted people with just depression,anxiety or anything else that is more common and just a tad easier to deal with that psychosis,ptsd e.t.c. There were a few cases in which non mentally ill or disturbed patients were admitted,for no other reason other than their sexuality. These places weren't heaven,this bullshit is all just a front for crappy treatment.
Currently in Oregon State Psychopathic Institue. I’m about to graduate with a PhD in ‘Hyper Violent Evisceration’ and a Masters degree in ‘Messianic Disposition Syndrome’ I had extremely HIGH marks in Religious Mystical Experience.
Yup, it’s Wicked Ass!
Wait.... what do you have a PhD in???????? 😳😂
Oh, a lake for fishing!
Why Were they Taking Spinal Fluid??
Kinda Barbaric.
The only reason to check spinal fluid to check for Meningitis.
I had spinal fliud removed because my body produced too much and it caused pressure on my brain and eyes. If I didn't have it removed I would've died from lack of oxygen in my brain from too much pressure. It's called Cranial Hypertention.
gatorade eucharist
And the Dr. Gives fred a cigarette! Now thats crazy
Right, should have been a joint.
Not if Fred was a smoker..it would be logical and kind.
I know they're showing this to me only. There all in on it. But they won't fool me.
Pretty interesting. Kinda sad that it sounds so nice, but those places weren't that nice. At least we can say we've come a long way since then. Although I don't know why they still use electro shock therapy...
IT rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.
Made that shit sound awesome didn't they???!!!!!!
Why the spinal fluid test?
same reasons they did a blood test
Holy shit nothing like a random spinal tap on admission!
I think they are just checking for things like meningitis which can affect brain activity.
@@patriciaroysdon9540 yeah, it will cause a phycotic problem, by a conventional means
Draconian treatment that didn’t even work
My right ear did as well
It might be interesting to consider: this video is made by sane persons in an effort to understand what's happening to the insane person (nomenclature out-of-date on my part is purely accidental) in an effort to understand with the hope of curing whatever ails.
LSD was used by practitioners and researchers in the psychiatric fields. It wasn't illegal, and didn't have a stigma since it wasn't readily available outside of a clinical setting. LSD was thought to provide insight into scizophrenia (sp?).
From the beginning, this video looks like it was produced for a student audience by clinicians who may, or may not have experimented with LSD and are trying to re-create the atmosphere felt, on camera.
Weird.
I bet it was excellent LSD.
yeah. probably the best. legendary .
it was a magical new wonder-drug through to have promising cure-all capabilities in the realm of mental health and abnormal psychology. Nothing really bad happened to it until the government in the '70s went "lol no thats ours now," when they made scheduled it a more severe/addictive drug than cocaine. How odd.
Bettys got some knockers!
What is the name of the hospital
It is Griffin Memorial Hospital, also known as Central State Hospital. It is no longer open, though the building still stands and is boarded up.
How does someone get this on TH-cam lmao
I live in Oklahoma and never heard about this???
I live in Oklahoma too and I've never heard of it either.
The guy who was signing himself in for "15 days" - the form said "Central State, Norman, Oklahoma". I wonder if it is still here?? I'm in Norman now!
Griffin Memorial Hospital??
@@anneroberts3391 that shit would be crazy!!!!
Oh! This is such a crock! There was so much abuse that the Governor of Ohio had every single hospital for the mentally ill investigated. What he found was apalling. Just in one hospital in Stark County they discharged 792 people who didn't belong there and fired the Superintendent along with other staff. These were not nice places and they seldom helped anyone.
I thought I was going deaf in my left ear watching this with headphones 😭
Oh pleased you's and other's, needed too do a backgrounds checked yours self.
This is torture
1910's to the 1970's were the developmental era of medicine. We discovered how the human body works greatly. If it wasn't for these poor peoples sacrifice. We wouldnt have the medicine, treatments and technology we do today. Sad, but its very true.
@@Bigazzham
So you’re saying Hitler’s death camp doctors had it right?
@@meeksde No what was communicated, very clearly, is that while this treatment is sad and horrific to you and I in 2021, during the time of this videos production they were using the best technologies and best practices known. To jump the shark and immediately violate Godwins law by bringing up Hitler is repulsive. Nothing Hitler authorized was intended to try and assist patients being tested. Its easy to be virtuous about a time you've clearly not studied and likely didn't live through but it would be more appropriate to withhold judgement when you lack the reason and rationality to do so.
@@willsweat5413
Notice that I was not responding to YOU. These poor peoples “sacrifice” (as @bigazzham suggests) was not a sacrifice, it was experiments done on humans without consent ... much like “experiments” conducted on humans by in nazi death camps.
I wonder where he got the idea.... after all, he did enjoy reading some of Margaret Sanger and other American eugenics works.
Go ahead. Use more of your high powered philosophical jumbo jumbo to justify your agreement for such American experiments.
@@meeksde yes
They never let them out.
so they basically committed false advertising?
I think films like this were intended as a mercy to alleviate the guilt and sadness of people who put those they loved but could not care for into institutions. And also probably to advertise their services to doctors, hospitals, etc.
At the height of the V.N. War I had to "face myself and think". That was the slogan of The Pacific Gospel Mission in Chicago. God was calling me out from a terrible life of sin. I was a hitchhiker back when that was a feasible way to get around. On one jaunt, a mid age woman picked me up--I was about 23. She knew I was homeless and said she had a couch I could sleep on. She had to make one stop though first. She pulled up at the mental dept of the local hospital and said she would be right back. A couple minutes later two policemen seized me and took me to the County mental hospital. They put me on Thorazine. Òther officers forced a lady into the mental ward and she went up and down the halls calling on Jesus Christ to save her. Some interns wrestled her to the ground and shot her full of meds. A patient took his false teeth out and put them under my pillow. While a patient was eating lunch in the cafeteria, another came and gave him a round house right in the chops. I had to meet with a doctor who had a string tie on with a serpent tie clip. Thank God my mother offered asylum at her house. I had anorexia for a year and lost 50 pounds. She said she would cook for me and get me well. But what really healed my mind and body was my Savior and Lord, Jesus Christ. In the time before He saved me though, I tried suicide twice, with one more trip to the nutter.
What a story. 😱
@@jubeljane Yes, yours too, I suppose. Ps. 119:24: "Thy testimonies are also my delight and my councellors". Thanks for the input.
Do you mean Pacific *Garden* Mission? I used to listen to their radio show.
Sometimes I can't help but wonder how many went there were WW1 and WW2 vets????
"Power plant smokestack"
Yeah, right. Power plant.
And I guess those are "showers"
More like an incinerator for those that don’t behave and eat their vegetables....
That is an incredibly dense statement.
Sometimes a whole family after being labelled disfunctional could become subjected to surveillance beginning during the 1960's without their consent. The assistants in that program would then have to offer costly 'free' programs to members of that family while those assistants were being paid far less than they deserved. Those assistants were only doing what any caring biological mother does when at home with an infant. Why the surveillance?
Nice cute story...that. NEVER HAPPENS
I f it was not for the medications they have for my anxiety today I would most likely drink myself to death.
Speaking as a retired UK psychiatrist I think we have lost a huge amount by abandoning these therapeutic communities.
Of course we are held back by a common enemy. MANAGEMENT !
Not sure the majority of patients would agree with you there!
We are in dire need of reopening these asylums.
Yes, without the abuse.
ASAP
So many undiagnosed patients on tiktok amd Twitter. Sad times we live in.
@@broadkast477
I'm more concerned with the psychopathy exhibited in the people running entire governments and corporations. The narcissism displayed on Tiktok and Twitter are mere symptoms of a leadership with the same traits. They're just mirroring the people running the circus.
Why do you say that?
what aweful places these were,bloody hell.
Lol so woulda been there back in the day
Tuesday is lobotomy day... Followed by ice-cream.
How tragic most of them unnecessary drastic. Way to fix problems hmm
Ah, the 40s and 50s...
If it were print on a page or public service propaganda it was like God's voice from heaven...everyone ate it up.
Two fantastic decades… 2000 - 2020 will be remembered as the spring board for the worst time in human history..
jesus look how thin everybody was back then.
Most of us are fat now.
This film while while apparently well meaning individuals. Places such as Pennhurst treated people horribly. Hospitals varied in goodness and badness.
All too commonly people who were not mentally ill were committed. If someone with a seizure disorder (epilepsy) was committed shock treatment could destroy their chance of controlling their seizures.
Commitment was all too often without due process. As medications were developed to control psychoses a push for deinstitutionalization to take most of the mentally ill out of the hospitals and give them their lives back. The problem was that all too often kept them from getting employment and housing. Many companies have/had policies of never hiring anyone who had ever had a "nervous breakdown", a term that no longer has any legal meaning. Yes, I consider myself a human rights advocate.
Earlier in my life I ran afoul of the institutionalization push of the 50's. The Asiatic Flu pandemic created the problem. The LA PTA clinic recommended institualization at the them Camarillo State hospital. (Converted to a university after it's closure in 1997.)
That would have been disastrous as my condition would have been way worsened. Fortunately my parents didn't fall for it. Years later the seizure disorder was correctly diagnosed and very successfully put under control. I got my life back. I still faced discrimination and a devalued ego but my life was back.
Thank God there was no 5150 or Baker Act to trap me then.
i feel ya..i was in three hospitals, and the care was incredibly well planned, we were treated with dignity, we were warm,clothed, well bedded, and the food in all 3 was beyond delicious.an event to look forward to as a very tasty marker of time of day. this time of yr in 95,i was in hospital for the last time. Alabama/Auburn is the big football rivalry here,and we were even given an event party by the staff, who partied with us. we watched it on a huge screen tv.
There seems to be social distancing
They closed these places during the regean admin, now we have to deal with them. Yeah make friends sure, naw, gonna be more bodies on the street....
Wow, we really knew nothing about mental illness back then
Make new friends to EASE THE PASSING OF YEARS o now your fracking nuts
The large in physicality... run the rest.
So thankful I quit drinking because I was headed to a mental institution
I’m incredibly proud of you 💓