This is like saying I’ll take a Porsche 911 over a V6 mustang. It’s embarrassingly obvious to everyone except the worst of the Tudor (or Mustang) fanboys. Except for the analogy to be the same a V6 mustang would have to cost more than a 911. That shows you how crazy the Tudor cult is.
@@mariog7213 so you’re thinking mustang too generous? So maybe a Tudor is like a Pontiac Aztek or something. I suppose that’s a bit harsh but I can see that. Point taken
the sprit time only looks good on video, it looks awful in person. the black matte dial specifically. the stars are corny. The black bay GMTs are too thick though
I think that this Longines GMT is stunning and would be my pick over the Tudor even if they were the same price. This is a stunner. I really like the black bezel, the green bezel and the steel and gold two tone.
Of course- to me the Zulu on appearance is a class (or two) above a Tudor. The only people that can’t admit that are the most die hard Tudor fanboys. But I think people are starting to wake up to this. Most of the wild Tudor hype over the last few years has just been because people can’t get a Rolex and so somehow they think the are buying the next best thing, which of course it isn’t. It’s still just a blocky boring looking watch that is overpriced. The Zulu is sexy as hell.
Six months ago I was very anti-sub 40mm. A 39/40 Ginault and a 39 black bay pro have changed my mind completely. Neither watch is too small for my 8.25 wrist. I still love my 41mm black bay Chrono and 41 mm BBGMT. But 39 is good to go. The Zulu GMT is super nice looking at represents a heck of a deal. I could wear either and be proud of it.
After some super nice friend let me try one of these on over the weekend, it's next on my list. I liked the 42, but thought it was just a bit much, but this 39 is just right. Longines just seems to be on a roll these days.
I had a look at the larger version last year and was very impressed, it looked great on my 7" wrist. With this new smaller version I think it would certainly open up the possibility of the watch for smaller wrists even though those male end links extend the effective lug to lug but they do drop down steeply so I would suggest as always try it on before making a decision. If I didn't have a other GMT watches in my collection already I could be easily tempted to pull the trigger on either size. The only slight complaint was that the bezel rotated in hour clicks and that's fine most of the time but some time zones do not have a full hour offset such as Mumbai who I was working with at the time I saw the 42mm version. The Tudor GMT has this covered but as you mention that is a more expensive watch and thicker as well. Tool less micro adjust would definitely be a plus as well and it's nice to see more bracelets having this feature but I do understand that this will add cost. Many thanks for sharing.
Great review! Just got myself this same variant on a cruise at a discount over the weekend. Enjoying it so far! Had to figure out the GMT function as this is my 1st GMT. I must say I got confused by the “3rd timezone” thing I saw online. I’ll stick with my 2 timezones, thank you very much. The dial is clean and legible. But yeah, I wish the bracelet was quick-adjust. Other than that, I’d say this is a really nice piece! :)
I just bought a Longines diver Ultra-Chron (instead of the Tudor Boring Bay). Stunning watch with a sapphire bezel and super accurate high-beat movement. Longines is putting out the best looking watches today for the money. Great review Bruce. Gladiator we salute you.
Boring bay is spot one. One day maybe ill understand the Tudor hype. But it will not be this day. Especially when a maker like Longines is dropping dimes like the Zulu for a fraction of the cost
I have the 43mm version of this same watch with blue dial. Yesterday I tried on the 39mm black dial with bracelet that you reviewed here. 43 wears a little big. 39 wears beautifully but seemed a little thick to me now that it’s downsized, but wears thinner than the Tudor equivalent. Not sure how I pulled it off but I got the 43 new b/p for $1750. Don’t think I’ll see a deal like that on the 39. My only other complaint on the 39 is they don’t make it with blue dial. But if the 43 is too big for you, the 39 is terrific value and feels premium. Thanks for the review Bruce!
The Tudor gmt is like wearing a brick on your wrist.At 39m no one can touch this.Great video and review as always.Longines biggest competition are their own watches.
Recently saw that their new Hydroconquest GMT has a microadjust on the bracelet and hope that it will make its way to their other models. I would also prefer a 20 mm lug width, especially on the 39. Great shots Bruce!
My opinion of course - Longines often has very beautiful, elegant designs including this one. Tudor's designs on the other hand, are pretty brutal and simple designs - often plain or even ugly looking. So for me, it's the Spirit Zulu all the way.
I actually ordered the 39mm gilt dial from exquisite about 6 weeks ago when it was released! Very excited for it. I had the 42mm version and flipped it because I think the 39mm will wear better
Hey bruce great review of this beautiful timepiece, longines has a new gmt as well in 41mm case it’s called the the hydroconquest gmt looks good from the rendering online hope a comparison between the two would be great .
I have the 42. I would also like a female endlink for the bracelet but I believe they would not be able to make a quick release bracelet with a female endlink. And I do like being able to change the bracelet. I would have preferred this 39 to my 42 though.
Longines, pls ditch the big brand etching on the clasp (etch the smaller wingspan logo, instead) and also pls use the quick adjust just like your hydro GMT model for this very nice Zulu. Thanks for the vid, man..
I have been waiting for months for another review, so thank you! this is so close to perfect on paper. The 21mm Lugwidth is annoying and now that you've mentioned the large L2L because in the bracelet, that's also annoying. I have to try it on soon and then maybe put it on rubber or leather instead.
Beautiful looking watch with a great design - the proportions look perfect to me - although inverted end links would have been a better option maybe. Think it looks more expensive than the Tudor even though it’s a considerably lower price.
If you can save $3000 or $4000, I think the answer is get the one you like best . For me, I like the Zulu gmt over all gmts . Sad , I don’t have the $3000. .. yet
A lot of Tudor haters in the comments. I wonder if any of them have actually handled the BB gmt. It does require a larger wrist to pull off (which I have) but it is incredibly high quality imo. Haven’t been able to handle the longines yet tho
You're absolutely right about the end links. To make a smaller version for smaller wrists and then put male end links so it then doesn't fit smaller wrists. Boneheads!
@@Randomdude5 Exactly. The end links appear to be larger in order to accommodate the quick release mechanism. Other watches in the Spirit collection without quick release capability use a shorter end link.
Would much rather give up the quick-swap end links to get female end links, and the improved wearability Would also prefer they drop the outside AR coating. Use the money from both of those changes to put toward a clasp with on-the-fly micro adjust. I would prefer the security of a flip-lock style clasp, but at least the new HydroConquest GMT has on-the-fly adjustment - at a lower price. The long lug-to-lug and the lack of on-the-fly micro adjust are the only reasons I haven't already bought one!
The 42mm is a good size for my wrist. I get annoyed with the true gmt argument. Whether it's a caller or a traveler gmt, it's tracking 2 timezones. So for me, they are both true gmt. Come at me bro! 😂
"True" GMT is probably not the right term for it, though I understand why it somewhat caught on. While the original GMTs would be what we consider caller GMTs now, given the GMT movement being originally designed as a traveler's/pilot's watch, the jumping 12-hr hand is just easier to use (or more "true") for the use-case.
Haha tracking another time zone is the least exciting part of the movement. The best part is being able to adjust the local hand independent of hacking the balance. Perfect for traveling, daylight savings, or adjusting the date at rhe end of a month. To me a dual time just doesn't come close!
@@BruceWilliamsMakes sense if you travel a lot, or if you take great pleasure in the way a traveller's movement functions, but for me - who is very much stationary, lives a long way from home (from California to Brisbane Australia), and manages a global team across several time zones - a caller is by far the better option.
Agree with (almost) everything. The only thing, I think the end links are ideal for this watch. Other then that, apart from the lack of a quick adjust clasp - a rare watch where everything is just right and exciting :)
Selling my ZULU TIME green bezel model in 39mm purchased new last february box and papers, 5yr warranty. Very pretty watch but im going for a different color and size. Letting it go for cheap...if anyone interested let me know i can provide my fb listing for it.
Great review but unfortunately I had a terrible experience with Longines (Swatch Group) customer service related to this watch. I purchased this watch and then wanted to purchase the steel bracelet so I called Swatch Group to order it. When it arrived, the bracelet was defective with a loose screw holding one of the links. I called Swatch to return the bracelet the next day, which they said was fine. After the returned bracelet arrived at their warehouse, they refused to honor the return because the packaging the bracelet came in was opened. Not sure how else you are supposed to look at a product you order besides taking it out of the box. After this experience I would never buy a Longines/Swatch Group product and I will be selling my Longines Spirit Zulu Time GMT. Buyer beware with Longines and Swatch Group.
I thought I loved this watch until I tried one on. Those stars just ruin the dial for me. I love the applied Arabic’s, but those stars make me think of a yelp review.
I find the dials of these far too busy. I love the numerals on the dial but the weird ring with the diamond shapes ruins that for me, I dislike the winged hourglass and don’t get me started on the 5 stars. The things it does better than the black bay pro is it’s thinner and the gmt hand is less distracting. I’ll group it in with the grand Seiko quartz GMT’s as having a bracelet that needs throwing away but once you have the grand Seiko is so much nicer. So for me the bb pro comes out on top with the grand Seiko close behind in 2nd place and the longines as a non starter.
How can a steel bracelet not feel like steel. I don’t feel like you really tried it on or have ever even seen a Zulu up close. I just think you have that horrible Tudor virus. Fortunately actually holding up a Zulu to a Black Bay in person is a guaranteed cure for that.
The end links are heavily curved - I suggest you try it in person :) I have 6.5 inch wrist and am used to watches 40mm and below, so this 39 mm is a great option for me. The 21 mm is not ideal, but they have quick release system with a metal bracelet, leather and nato for the two tone. So it is not such a hindrance :)
@@Vess_Iossifov you and I had the same wrist size. The problem is not 39mm The problem is the lug to lug of 53mm. If you tried such you won’t tell me such now. View more. Try more. You will realise 39mm/53mm is really bad.
@@ocb05 The lug to lug is 47mm, the end link to end link is 53mm. So 47mm deffinitely fits my 6.5 inch wrist. At the same time, I am 95% certain this model along with the male end links will fit me as well, as I know the design of the bracelet and how the end links curve and also watched few reviews. But you are right, I should actually try it first to be 100% certain - as soon as I have an occasion will try it and if I do not forget will let you know :)
The Zulu 39 over the Black Bay GMT for sure.
This is like saying I’ll take a Porsche 911 over a V6 mustang. It’s embarrassingly obvious to everyone except the worst of the Tudor (or Mustang) fanboys. Except for the analogy to be the same a V6 mustang would have to cost more than a 911. That shows you how crazy the Tudor cult is.
If the Zulu time is a 911, the Tudor is definitely not a v6 mustang. The irony of this comment is hilarious
@@mariog7213 so you’re thinking mustang too generous? So maybe a Tudor is like a Pontiac Aztek or something. I suppose that’s a bit harsh but I can see that. Point taken
the sprit time only looks good on video, it looks awful in person. the black matte dial specifically. the stars are corny. The black bay GMTs are too thick though
@@wowza5758disagree. They look great in person. Also the stars are a nice callback to longines tradition
I think that this Longines GMT is stunning and would be my pick over the Tudor even if they were the same price. This is a stunner. I really like the black bezel, the green bezel and the steel and gold two tone.
It really looks awesome. Much thinner than a Tudor gmt
I agree. The only thing the Tudor has on the Zulu is the clasp. Other than that, it’s just bland imo
Of course- to me the Zulu on appearance is a class (or two) above a Tudor. The only people that can’t admit that are the most die hard Tudor fanboys. But I think people are starting to wake up to this. Most of the wild Tudor hype over the last few years has just been because people can’t get a Rolex and so somehow they think the are buying the next best thing, which of course it isn’t. It’s still just a blocky boring looking watch that is overpriced. The Zulu is sexy as hell.
@@BruceWilliamsa paving brick is thinner than a Tudor black bay.
That 2 tone model is 🤌🏽🤌🏽🤌🏽
Six months ago I was very anti-sub 40mm. A 39/40 Ginault and a 39 black bay pro have changed my mind completely. Neither watch is too small for my 8.25 wrist. I still love my 41mm black bay Chrono and 41 mm BBGMT. But 39 is good to go. The Zulu GMT is super nice looking at represents a heck of a deal. I could wear either and be proud of it.
After some super nice friend let me try one of these on over the weekend, it's next on my list. I liked the 42, but thought it was just a bit much, but this 39 is just right. Longines just seems to be on a roll these days.
I had a look at the larger version last year and was very impressed, it looked great on my 7" wrist. With this new smaller version I think it would certainly open up the possibility of the watch for smaller wrists even though those male end links extend the effective lug to lug but they do drop down steeply so I would suggest as always try it on before making a decision. If I didn't have a other GMT watches in my collection already I could be easily tempted to pull the trigger on either size. The only slight complaint was that the bezel rotated in hour clicks and that's fine most of the time but some time zones do not have a full hour offset such as Mumbai who I was working with at the time I saw the 42mm version. The Tudor GMT has this covered but as you mention that is a more expensive watch and thicker as well. Tool less micro adjust would definitely be a plus as well and it's nice to see more bracelets having this feature but I do understand that this will add cost. Many thanks for sharing.
The leather strap has a quick toolless adjust on the 42. Surprised why the bracelet does not.
Great timely review on this Longines Zulu 39! Going for black bezel, steel bracelet. Forget about the bb😂. Thanks for sharing this review.
Great review! Just got myself this same variant on a cruise at a discount over the weekend. Enjoying it so far! Had to figure out the GMT function as this is my 1st GMT. I must say I got confused by the “3rd timezone” thing I saw online. I’ll stick with my 2 timezones, thank you very much. The dial is clean and legible. But yeah, I wish the bracelet was quick-adjust. Other than that, I’d say this is a really nice piece! :)
I just bought a Longines diver Ultra-Chron (instead of the Tudor Boring Bay). Stunning watch with a sapphire bezel and super accurate high-beat movement. Longines is putting out the best looking watches today for the money. Great review Bruce. Gladiator we salute you.
Congrats on the ultra chron! That is a very impressive watch
That ultra chron is awesome. It’s definitely super underrated
Boring bay is spot one. One day maybe ill understand the Tudor hype. But it will not be this day. Especially when a maker like Longines is dropping dimes like the Zulu for a fraction of the cost
I have the 43mm version of this same watch with blue dial. Yesterday I tried on the 39mm black dial with bracelet that you reviewed here. 43 wears a little big. 39 wears beautifully but seemed a little thick to me now that it’s downsized, but wears
thinner than the Tudor equivalent. Not sure how I pulled it off but I got the 43 new b/p for $1750. Don’t think I’ll see a deal like that on the 39. My only other complaint on the 39 is they don’t make it with blue dial. But if the 43 is too big for you, the 39 is terrific value and feels premium. Thanks for the review Bruce!
Of course there's lume when you blast it with UV. The question is, how long does it last? 😊
The Tudor gmt is like wearing a brick on your wrist.At 39m no one can touch this.Great video and review as always.Longines biggest competition are their own watches.
Recently saw that their new Hydroconquest GMT has a microadjust on the bracelet and hope that it will make its way to their other models. I would also prefer a 20 mm lug width, especially on the 39. Great shots Bruce!
These spirits are a great value proposition.
Can you do a comparison with the longines and the black bay pro?
Yes.
Black Bay is like looking at a genital wart and the Zulu is like looking up Yasmine Bleeth’s skirt.
I want the 39 but on the brown strap seen the 42 on the strap this watch is bonkers for the money!
Es precioso... sobretodo en marrón o azul y con correa de piel.
Para ser perfecto no tendría que tener fechador a las 18:00.
❤
Waiting for the hydroconquest gmt, in green or brown review.
My opinion of course - Longines often has very beautiful, elegant designs including this one. Tudor's designs on the other hand, are pretty brutal and simple designs - often plain or even ugly looking. So for me, it's the Spirit Zulu all the way.
Longines are often an overlooked company
Stunning piece! definitely on my list.....
Nice review, nice shots, thanks!
I actually ordered the 39mm gilt dial from exquisite about 6 weeks ago when it was released! Very excited for it. I had the 42mm version and flipped it because I think the 39mm will wear better
I think you are 100 percent right
Me too!
The Longines is a nicer looking watch than the Tudor IMO and it’s fit and finish is second to none. The movement is solid as a rock.
I checked this watch out at my local AD and OMG! That thing's gorgeous ❤
Beautiful watch, indeed.
Is that silicone main spring reliable
Just got mine....its a clean shoe.
Solid move now fingers crossed they scale down the ultra chron
Please make a review for conquest 2023. It really is a gorgeously designed and made watch
I'm the only one that hear Rick and Morty every time Bruce says brick and mortar
if they fixed the protruding end links I think this would be great
if onlu this watch didnt have those stars it would be a banger.
Hey bruce great review of this beautiful timepiece, longines has a new gmt as well in 41mm case it’s called the the hydroconquest gmt looks good from the rendering online hope a comparison between the two would be great .
I have the 42. I would also like a female endlink for the bracelet but I believe they would not be able to make a quick release bracelet with a female endlink. And I do like being able to change the bracelet. I would have preferred this 39 to my 42 though.
Can you compare the case design with the Omega Globemaster? Looks similar to me.
No quick adjust on the clasp is a huge miss.
Nice vedio bro,
I have same wrist size of you "7inch" do you think 39mm is fit our wrist size,
I tried 42mm I was quite big.
When the series first came out thought it was gorgeous but now I can't help disliking the hands. Couldn't tell you why though.
Longines, pls ditch the big brand etching on the clasp (etch the smaller wingspan logo, instead) and also pls use the quick adjust just like your hydro GMT model for this very nice Zulu. Thanks for the vid, man..
I have been waiting for months for another review, so thank you! this is so close to perfect on paper. The 21mm Lugwidth is annoying and now that you've mentioned the large L2L because in the bracelet, that's also annoying. I have to try it on soon and then maybe put it on rubber or leather instead.
Glad it was helpful!
What is your wrist size?
Great review Bruce , as always. However didnt enjoy the background music 😩
Noted!
Beautiful looking watch with a great design - the proportions look perfect to me - although inverted end links would have been a better option maybe. Think it looks more expensive than the Tudor even though it’s a considerably lower price.
If you can save $3000 or $4000, I think the answer is get the one you like best . For me, I like the Zulu gmt over all gmts . Sad , I don’t have the $3000. .. yet
Longines is as underrated as Rolex is overrated.
I'm currently desperately saving for the 42mm Zulu Time.
I think this is a home run for GMT under 5k. I prefer this to the tudor and breitling GMT.
For me a $3000 watch is definitely luxury.
The endlinks on longlines are so brutal, they also make it look so much cheaper, dare I say seiko-esque
A lot of Tudor haters in the comments. I wonder if any of them have actually handled the BB gmt. It does require a larger wrist to pull off (which I have) but it is incredibly high quality imo. Haven’t been able to handle the longines yet tho
I agree..I want one of these as well though. 😅
Still has a long lug to lug for a 39mm especially with that male endlink that sticks like a sore thumb
You're absolutely right about the end links. To make a smaller version for smaller wrists and then put male end links so it then doesn't fit smaller wrists. Boneheads!
Do you say that to Rolex for their submariner?
@@mjdm1925
That very much depends on wrist size but for me the bb58 wears much better than the modern submariner.
I think the reason behind the big end links are because of their type of quick release buttons.
@@simonwright6882 agreed but no one in the TH-cam space dares to say the same about the submariner. Is like a big fear
@@Randomdude5 Exactly. The end links appear to be larger in order to accommodate the quick release mechanism. Other watches in the Spirit collection without quick release capability use a shorter end link.
Would much rather give up the quick-swap end links to get female end links, and the improved wearability Would also prefer they drop the outside AR coating. Use the money from both of those changes to put toward a clasp with on-the-fly micro adjust. I would prefer the security of a flip-lock style clasp, but at least the new HydroConquest GMT has on-the-fly adjustment - at a lower price. The long lug-to-lug and the lack of on-the-fly micro adjust are the only reasons I haven't already bought one!
I would take this over Tudor but I would take GS over this if I were saving up. That being said this is a phenomenal watch.
The 42mm is a good size for my wrist. I get annoyed with the true gmt argument. Whether it's a caller or a traveler gmt, it's tracking 2 timezones. So for me, they are both true gmt. Come at me bro! 😂
"True" GMT is probably not the right term for it, though I understand why it somewhat caught on. While the original GMTs would be what we consider caller GMTs now, given the GMT movement being originally designed as a traveler's/pilot's watch, the jumping 12-hr hand is just easier to use (or more "true") for the use-case.
Haha tracking another time zone is the least exciting part of the movement. The best part is being able to adjust the local hand independent of hacking the balance. Perfect for traveling, daylight savings, or adjusting the date at rhe end of a month. To me a dual time just doesn't come close!
@@BruceWilliamsMakes sense if you travel a lot, or if you take great pleasure in the way a traveller's movement functions, but for me - who is very much stationary, lives a long way from home (from California to Brisbane Australia), and manages a global team across several time zones - a caller is by far the better option.
Don't like that the bb58 has an aluminium bezel insert
First. And i agree with you this is a great watch with good dimensions
Zulu over the Black Bay but to me the real deal is the Bulova Wilton GMT blue dial.
Better looking GMT than the Tudor IMO.
All good points about the Tudor comparison except you omitting the obvious fact that the Zulu looks about 10 times better than the black bay GMT.
Agree with (almost) everything. The only thing, I think the end links are ideal for this watch. Other then that, apart from the lack of a quick adjust clasp - a rare watch where everything is just right and exciting :)
Selling my ZULU TIME green bezel model in 39mm purchased new last february box and papers, 5yr warranty. Very pretty watch but im going for a different color and size. Letting it go for cheap...if anyone interested let me know i can provide my fb listing for it.
Sorry too small. Nice watch but i wouldnt look at anything smaller than a 42mm.
That's why there's a 42mm version.
Not a home run. A grand slam.
In 2023 garmin epix pro 51 mm is the king :) 🙂
Great review but unfortunately I had a terrible experience with Longines (Swatch Group) customer service related to this watch. I purchased this watch and then wanted to purchase the steel bracelet so I called Swatch Group to order it. When it arrived, the bracelet was defective with a loose screw holding one of the links. I called Swatch to return the bracelet the next day, which they said was fine. After the returned bracelet arrived at their warehouse, they refused to honor the return because the packaging the bracelet came in was opened. Not sure how else you are supposed to look at a product you order besides taking it out of the box. After this experience I would never buy a Longines/Swatch Group product and I will be selling my Longines Spirit Zulu Time GMT. Buyer beware with Longines and Swatch Group.
I thought I loved this watch until I tried one on. Those stars just ruin the dial for me. I love the applied Arabic’s, but those stars make me think of a yelp review.
I really like it but wish it cost a bit less. I have thousands ⌚🤑 of dollars in watches and now looking for lower cost quality watches.
But a Seiko 5 GMT then
😂Non-perfect for the money...hate blue Zulu marker. No blue = dressier.
Other than that; good looking piece.
I find the dials of these far too busy. I love the numerals on the dial but the weird ring with the diamond shapes ruins that for me, I dislike the winged hourglass and don’t get me started on the 5 stars. The things it does better than the black bay pro is it’s thinner and the gmt hand is less distracting.
I’ll group it in with the grand Seiko quartz GMT’s as having a bracelet that needs throwing away but once you have the grand Seiko is so much nicer. So for me the bb pro comes out on top with the grand Seiko close behind in 2nd place and the longines as a non starter.
Background noise like Chinese water torture.
That's what I was going for
They should use this as their diver platform. Make a no date to compete with tudor 58. Get rid of the hydro diver it's so ugly
Tried it on. Bracelet feels cheap and doesn't feel like steel. No micro adjust on the fly either.
I'll wait for the Tudor BB GMT 39mm.
How can a steel bracelet not feel like steel. I don’t feel like you really tried it on or have ever even seen a Zulu up close. I just think you have that horrible Tudor virus. Fortunately actually holding up a Zulu to a Black Bay in person is a guaranteed cure for that.
21 mm lug width
53 mm lug to lug due to those male end links
No quick adjustment on the clasp
BIG NOPE.
The end links are heavily curved - I suggest you try it in person :) I have 6.5 inch wrist and am used to watches 40mm and below, so this 39 mm is a great option for me.
The 21 mm is not ideal, but they have quick release system with a metal bracelet, leather and nato for the two tone. So it is not such a hindrance :)
@@Vess_Iossifov you and I had the same wrist size. The problem is not 39mm
The problem is the lug to lug of 53mm. If you tried such you won’t tell me such now.
View more. Try more. You will realise 39mm/53mm is really bad.
@@ocb05 The lug to lug is 47mm, the end link to end link is 53mm. So 47mm deffinitely fits my 6.5 inch wrist. At the same time, I am 95% certain this model along with the male end links will fit me as well, as I know the design of the bracelet and how the end links curve and also watched few reviews. But you are right, I should actually try it first to be 100% certain - as soon as I have an occasion will try it and if I do not forget will let you know :)
@@Vess_Iossifov keep me updated.
It looks like a toy watch in 39mm to me, and the lugs are still too long.
Tudor make the most boring bland watches, the Longines is stunning
No such thing as a "true" GMT