It's gross, brutal, and completely disrespectful to the memory of Wolverine and the original Xman movies... It is the most comic book accurate thing Deadpools ever done in a live action movie
Really? I found the movie pretty boring. It just shows you nostalgic stuff without telling a real story. Its soooo selfaware, but is at the end like any other Marvel film
@@fatballs148 the story : his universe being destroyed - wolverine is what kept the universe stable - goes to get a new one. not that hard to understand
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What makes it even more better, is that the song "bye bye bye" is wolverine didn’t like the song, so in a sense its mocking wolverine by not only using his corpse as a weapon, but it's also using a song he hated with deadpool dancing it, it's absolutely hilarious, and absolutely something deadpool would do.
I absolutely agree. Deadpool and Wolverine confirmed that the Wolverine we had known had served his purpose and saved so many lives in the process, it didn't dig him up in a tasteless way. They dug him up and made sure that he wasn't going to come back and be absolutely ruined by the following events. They confirmed that our Logan was gone, but our Wolverine was just a few cut-aways away from being ready for the big screen. While yes, it defiled a grave, it didn't defile a memory or a cause that impacted everybody around him, that still all happened and his story was rightly ended. It both erased the old Logan from being found and brought back for a shitty sequel at the behest of Disney while still giving us an incredible experience that's practically crucial to modern Marvel.
The thing is, hugh came to ryan and disney if I recall after coming to the conclusion that musicals weren't for him. Its fucking hilarious that he wanted this
The thing I think people forgot is that this is supposed to be a comedy. Of course they’re going to do some thing outlandish with the original Wolverine, but they still do the character a lot of respect by stating that he was the most important person in the universe and they have the restraint of not reviving him so that his story can have a definitive ending. Compare that to a product that came out the same year as this movie: suicide squad kill the justice league That game took a Batman, whose fate was intentionally supposed to be ambiguous and brought him back to life just so he could get murdered by a bunch of C List super villains with a couple rifles
I would add that it is also respectful as it does not retcon or deconstruct the Wolverine from the Logan movie. In lot of sequels they try to re-contextualize or repaint the actions of the main hero usually in a negative light. In Deadpool and Wolverine there is nothing of that, the Wolverine we knew in the movie is the same one we loved. No shocking revelations about him, no showing his actions were actually tainted by something else. In fact they do a good job of continuing the idea of Logan by having other characters recognize how heroic he was, and by the scenes with Laura where she remembers Logan for the hero he was.
I remember watching this sequence play out in the theater with my friend. When Bye Bye Bye started playing and he used Logan’s corpse to kill the TVA grunts we looked at each other and said “we are so fucking back”
Deadpool not desecrating the grave of Logan would be the most out of character moment for the merc with a mouth. Him digging up his corpse and then proceed to used it to dispatch enemies is absolutely something Deadpool would do. A rather funny moment for me was in an interview where Hugh Jackman had a oh shit moment when he saw the first Deadpool movie and realized that Wolverine and Deadpool had to have a crossover movie.
My take on the whole "Logan being dead" thing is Deadpool's knowledge beyond the 4th wall of how these things traditionally go in the comics. Wolverine has regenerated from much more horrific and deadly injuries; but on the big screen, specifically the MCU where they have (somewhat) kept things more grounded and realistic, there was no way he was living through those injuries. It works to subvert both audiences, and Deadpool's expectations after teeing up the scenario.
@@Taxevader-gk9ms I would argue that all movies are canon since they are all part of the Marvel multiverse. They just may not be canon to the "sacred timeline."
"Look, we know the title of this thing, so I know what you're wondering. How are we gonna do this without dishonoring Logan's memory? And I'll tell you how... We're not." ―Deadpool[src]
The scene also impacts Deadpool because he for once gets concrete evidence that he too one day will lose his regen power and eventually pass away. Something he has actually wished for to be true previously.
The way Wolverine was used in the film and how it acknowledged the events of *_Logan_* without dishonoring the memory of it is a direct middle finger to what Disney did with Palpatine in a little movie called *_The Rise of Palpatine._*
Not to mention that Logan is glorified as an incredible hero, in that his presense literally keeps the universe alive (funny jab at how he's easily the most popular aspect of those old X-men movies). Whereas the new Wolverine is literally the worst one, he's more cynical and angry and instead of wanting his place in the world he wants the damage he did to the world undone. It's a very nice contrast to show that they are different characters despite technically not being at all.
It’s also kind of a jab at how that popularity was forced on us in a way. The FoX-Men movies made it clear that every single character took a back seat to Wolverine. That in their eyes, nobody else mattered. The FoX-Men timeline was dying without Wolverine as an “anchor being” because 20th Century Fox literally anchored the entire franchise to him. Even if he wasn’t a part of the story at all, they’d find a way to shove in a cameo just to remind us that he’s the only one who really matters.
@@joebove4I just watched the first X-Men movie and they _really_ didn't do any of the characters any favors, including Wolverine. It's not a _bad_ movie, but it's a bad X-Men movie. The opening scene was very good, at least.
It took me the end of the film to realize what this film was. It was a loving tribute. A tribute to everything that came before that fox built the good and the bad. I never thought I could see Fan4stic with anything but hate and even knowing it’s not good seeing it in the end credits was sweet because it was part of the journey
I haven't seen Deadpool & Wolverine yet, but judging by this, even though our Wolverine is dead and gone, and even though Deadpool is flagrantly desecrating his grave and corpse, at the same time, Deadpool using Logan's corpse to wipe out the TVA agents is basically giving our Wolverine one last hurrah in kicking serious ass.
The saddest thing about this Wolverine. He was the original. Constantly infighting going off on his own. Fought with his PTSD. Drunk and a glass cannon who was constantly on about rogue. Probably the closest accurate Logan we will ever get.
The disrespect doesn't come from the corpse fight. It's the reveal that Logan sacrificing himself to save X23 doomed the world to annihilation, meaning that the better choice was to let her die. Even ignoring that, ita revealed that X23 was erased by the TVA shortly after his death, so his sacrifice was made completely meaningless.
actually when you really think about it doesn't really matter when he dies at the universe is going to come to an end several thousand years after his or any other person who a universe depends on their life then how long they live their life is usually not really going to matter Because on a scale of Let's say 3000 years what does 200 years give or take really change Even if Logan didn't save her and went on to live another 100 years or whether he had slipped foul broke his neck and then got decapitated when he was two years old There's just not that much overall time difference on the scale of the thousands of years Which is a big reason why I really hate the idea of universes breaking down when some arbitrary individual dies As Honestly it just makes the whole universe therein utterly meaningless Because it's a universe that's only going to be around for each very short amount of time cosmically Considering Marvel really wants people to care about the multiverse they sure seem to be doing a lot to absolutely ensure nobody cares about the Multi verse even in the one film that told a good multiverse story they had to add an element to it that completely ruins the whole point of the multi verse to begin with Though I did find it really weird that X23 apparently was just sent to the graveyard Or whatever that dimension was called in the movie shortly after Logan so like you said it was completely pointless that he saved her
5:05 Well, knowing the TVA, they're gonna get around to resetting the area back to the way it's supposed to be at some point. It'll be like it never happened, in fact the TVA will consider it not to have happened.
You realize, in the beginning of the TV show, the charges doesn’t “reset the area”, they “prune the branch”. They remove that timeline from existence. If it reset the area, we would see the branches flow back into “the sacred timeline”, they don’t. They got erased. By the end of the TV show, and referenced in the movie, they no longer prune branches. (Also it had to happen for the timeline to get saved by a different Wolverine. The TVA wouldn’t risk letting the timeline start dying again by trying to have that part not happen.)
@@SeanWheeler100 No, B-15 explain they couldn't fix Logan's shit in his timeline, Deadpool's deal was to send the people who helped them escape the void back home
There's a difference between desecrating a *character's grave and desecrating a *character's memory* and Deadpool & Wolverine nailed it. Not only is it hillarious and in character, but it ,ironically, feels respectful by just straight up giving us what we wanted for ages, while making fun of the contrived nonsense it took to make this movie happen both in front of and behind the camera. Respectful in its disrespect is the best way to put it.
Irony kills everything it touches. We've been BATHING in it since the 1991. This is the natural outcome of it. "Being sincere is cringe and you're stupid for wanting to be"
@Laeiryn the shotgun porch one. 4' is probably too short yeah, guessing more like 5' something but he was basically the dwarf berserker of the d&d party that was the second generation of X-Men. Storm, human druid. Colossus, human paladin or half orc fighter/cleric Nightcrawler, elf rogue Banshee, human bard
I had to be *dragged* to see all three Deadpools by a friend because I *despise* loud mouthed, heartless cynical “heroes” like him. Even though I was gnashing my teeth in anger at his utterly *un* funny desecration of Logan, it made the scene where Logan-Worst utterly *chews him out* in the car for the mean-spirited loser he actually is all the *more* satisfying.
Or we could not arbitrarily bring back stories that had ended. Idk, it's nice to see new actors playing new characters in new stories that don't rely entirely on nostalgia to make manchildren clap like seals.
I hope we saw a Deadpool and Spider-man movie; that would be cool! Seeing Wade and Peter meeting each other, fighting a new villain, Peter playing with dog-pool and meeting the other Peter. That would be fun ☺
I knew I was gonna love this movie when dead pool began smacking Logan’s skeleton with the shovel. And then it cut to him sitting next to it near the tree. They couldn’t have executed the intro any better. And the NSYNC Bye Bye dance was such a perfect send off and start to the movie.
I think a much bigger middle finger to Logan would've been if that exact same Wolverine we followed through th Fox universe suddenly came back to life just for this one movie. In Deadpool and wolverine the character was respected Enough to be allowed to keep his ending.
I’m sorry if a cop sacrifices himself for a kid and 5 years later that kid dies it doesn’t mean that cops death was meaningless. Laura even says she got to grow up because of him.
@@TheSEAempire It’s called an analogy. I’m using it to show how Logan’s death wasn’t pointless. Also Logan didn’t arbitrarily decide the course of a universe’s existence what are you talking about?!
@@sttrooper-lt7xp I misread the section about the cop analogy, so my bad, I thought you were comparing the TVA to cops. The TVA arbitrarily define reality, and this film introduces the batshit-crazy concept of anchor-beings, which messes with so much of... pretty much every piece of media tying into the Marvel multiverse. So Logan was such an important entity that his universe relies on his continued existence (a random mortal mutant who was born in the 1800's), and because of that his sacrifice to save a bunch of children is not what supposed to happen? In no way does that "respect" Logan as the uploader tried to claim. By including the TVA, the writers removed all personal agency from the characters, since they determine what's "allowed" or not, and with regards to Logan, it means he never actually had any real choice to make the lives of others better or worse, which is... dumb as hell. Frankly I'm amazed so many people think this film is good when it recontextualizes other films in all the worst possible ways.
Logan is set in 2029. Deadpool & Wolverine is set in 2024. It still works because Paradox tells Deadpool that Logan WILL die later down the line, which would result in the end of his universe.
@@Egg-ou8gf anyway the dude who made beat for it did pretty good job, i got feeling that he is same guy who made beats for SpiderVerse and Black Panter
Honestly Logan was one of the worst movies of all time it had no right to exist. So I think they should have made it even more disrespectful. That scene at the opening of the Deadpool & Wolverine, Deadpool was beating Logan’s skeleton and his grave in rage because he has a burning hatred for that pile of trash you call a film. If you do make a rated R Movie by Marvel, ADD SOME COMEDY! Deadpool had every right to make fun of the poor trash movie. Take my advice for anyone who hasn’t seen Logan and you want to. For the love of God, DON’T! 🤬🤬🤬😤😤😤😡😡
3:34 This was so bad, I created my own 'head canon scene' to explain it: If someone asked how did you make something so miraculous, Halle (whatever her character's name is) would just say "We got it from some....out of town visitors to New Mexico back in '47, as a thank you for helping them get back home. We can't replicate it, and don't have much, so we use it only for Very Special people" 😄
Considering the comics revived Wolverine after his healing powers were turned off and he was completely covered in molten adamantium... I'm not convinced Logan can't comeback from several years of decay.
The movie is set in 2024 so the question I have is how was he even able to dig up Logan's grave when his death hasn't happened yet? Did he travel five years into the future just to dig it up?
Probably? I mean, it's Deadpool, is that really so beyond him? The TVA can travel anywhere in a time stream so I just assumed Deadpool went to 2029 to dig up Logans grave since the TVA told him he would die.
@avocadothecat but Logan would still be alive in Wade's present so his universe still had it's "anchor being". With that taken into consideration, why would he even need to go to the future when he could have found Logan in the present and said hey don't die.
@@BradLad56 he was told that he'd die and his universe would fizzle out no? It wouldn't really matter that he's not dead yet when he would be in 5 years. I guess the only argument would be to try and prevent his death in the first place - but Deadpool thought good Wolvie survived so he went to dig up the grave in the future to prove to the TVA that Logan wasn't dead and that his universe doesn't have to be destroyed. After all, the plot is preventing the time ripper from killing off his universe - all of his universe. His present past and future. I think the only thing that makes this inconsistency work is the fact that the TVA can time travel and that they plan on shredding the universe that looses it's anchor being. Since the TVA is outside time, Logan did already die/is still alive/wasn't even born yet. Frankly the concept of anchor beigns is a bit stupid - but eh... I can live with it. idk if I could convey my mental gymnastics
@avocadothecat yeah it would die......in a few thousand years. Paradox said he was speeding it up, but it was still the present and Logan was still alive so that means the world hadn't started dying yet so technically there wasn't anything to speed up yet.
Logan, the movie? It was a very different kind of movie than I was expecting, and it made me feel upset and uncomfortable, but I thought it was a great movie. It was clearly meant to make the voter feel that way, and it very much succeeded. I don't think it was disrespectful to the character, either.
What I don't get is wh whatever biological tissue of Logan's remains can't be scraped from the metal, and allowed to regenerate. The film pretty deliberately ignores that. I know he died of adamantium poisoning, but if you scrape away some Logan epithelials and stick them in a petri dish, based on canon, he should regenerate. He can regenerate from a single cell, so where's our new Logan?
Logan cannot grow back full body parts. An example of this is the age of apocalypse wolverine who lost his hand. Also when hes dead, he is simply, well, dead, and his immune system will stop his regeneration.
@@CinemaCapYT And yet, in the comics there are examples of Logan regenerating from as little as a drop of his own blood. It's a choppy canon with rules that could never work in th real world oe we would have unlimited Logans growing from dead skin cells, but the fact is, in universe, it would be possible.
17 years for us to get to know Logan/Wolverine as a character... and what do we really know about him? Every story tells us what he did and shows us some of the consequences of that, but what has he actually DONE? What did he do as weapon X? How did he learn how to fight? I think this was one of the most overrated movie character EVER
Let's not ignore Laura being in the Void, implying Wolverine's sacrifice and Laura's survival were not supposed to happen. I'd hardly call that respectful.
I think that's simply because the Fox movie timeline is so separate from the MCU sacred timeline that everything from the Fox movies would be pruned and sent to the void. Something to that effect at least
it doesn't imply that though. in fact the movie outright states the opposite. Original wolverine dying was correct, and in line with what was "supposed" to happen in that timeline. otherwise the people at the TVA would not consider that wolverine to be "the best wolverine". What is Implied by Laura being in the void is that, down the road she did something, or something happened that wasn't "supposed" to happen and the TVA pruned her. hell she outright states that she got to grow up because of OG wolverine, meaning there was a good gap between Wolverine dying at the end of Logan and Laura being pruned. if that even is "the same" Laura and not a variant who splits off from a later point, Ala how the Loki from the show diverges in the events of the first avengers, while a visually identical Loki persisted and died at the hands of thanos in infinity war. To add, it's also worth considering that the void represents projects that never where and cancelled movies, universes, etc. This is why channing tatams gambit is there, his movie was cancelled so he's in the void. Similarly, you could see this Laura as the Laura from the X23/ Laura kiney wolverine movie that never was.
We need a parody of the Deadpool and Wolverine movie. Make everything G-rated, swap all the genders and races except for Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman. It would be funny to get the movie we didn't want after getting the movie we needed!
@@KLamki1 Why, because a bunch of third worlders barely pushing 60 IQ and self hating Twitter cultists might get mad about it? The only reason people are afraid to touch Islam is because the majority of its followers have yet to leave the stone age and will saw your head off for criticizing their kiddy fiddler messiah.
Sorry have to agree with deadpool.... thats not how regenerative powers work. Hes not dead! Logan was crap just for that reason. Yeah the guy who grew himself from a hand in the comics dies from metal poisoning. Bullshit!! Watched in theaters, never watched it again. Only good part in the movie was the concept of xavier getting dementia and accidentally killed people, and the x 23. Other than that, movie sucked! Oh, Wolverine is old? What the hell ever!
bruuh who gives a f about some rules beeing broken when doing a movie. Logan at least had a story to tell. Deadpool 3 was just fan service and humor for 12 year olds. Do you like this more? please reduce your authism
It's gross, brutal, and completely disrespectful to the memory of Wolverine and the original Xman movies...
It is the most comic book accurate thing Deadpools ever done in a live action movie
And it also signals they won't bring back the wolverine we have been following. as they literally showed a corpse. just so Disney couldn't milk it
@@darknessblades Yeah but the new Wolverine is the replacement anyways so he's back which I don't mind.
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You're stupid @@darknessblades
Honestly interesting to see dead pool truly realize logan is dead and have to process the grief that one of the only other "immortals" is now dead
Or rather, that one of the "immortals" eventually dies.
Unlike many writers, actors, producers, and directors today, Ryan Reynolds is an actual comic book fan who produces fan service, not fan despise.
Really? I found the movie pretty boring. It just shows you nostalgic stuff without telling a real story. Its soooo selfaware, but is at the end like any other Marvel film
@@fatballs148 the story : his universe being destroyed - wolverine is what kept the universe stable - goes to get a new one. not that hard to understand
Also impressed with how comic-accurate Tatum and Reynolds got Gambit's powers to be. He's kind of dangerous!
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WORST OF MCU-Inhumans-The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported an 11% approval rating, with an average rating of 3.70/10 based on 47 reviews. The website's consensus states, "Marvel's Inhumans sets a new low standard for the MCU with an unimaginative narrative, dull design work, weak characters, and disengaging soapy melodrama."Reviewing the season, Matt Liparota of Destructoid concluded, "Inhumans is a work with almost nothing of value for anyone. It's not even an interesting train wreck. It's just a boring, lifeless slog easily shooting to the top of the list of the worst things the MCU has produced in its near-decade of existence."
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What makes it even more better, is that the song "bye bye bye" is wolverine didn’t like the song, so in a sense its mocking wolverine by not only using his corpse as a weapon, but it's also using a song he hated with deadpool dancing it, it's absolutely hilarious, and absolutely something deadpool would do.
It’s also a funny way of saying bye bye bye to his character!
I absolutely agree. Deadpool and Wolverine confirmed that the Wolverine we had known had served his purpose and saved so many lives in the process, it didn't dig him up in a tasteless way. They dug him up and made sure that he wasn't going to come back and be absolutely ruined by the following events. They confirmed that our Logan was gone, but our Wolverine was just a few cut-aways away from being ready for the big screen. While yes, it defiled a grave, it didn't defile a memory or a cause that impacted everybody around him, that still all happened and his story was rightly ended. It both erased the old Logan from being found and brought back for a shitty sequel at the behest of Disney while still giving us an incredible experience that's practically crucial to modern Marvel.
To quote Philip J. Fry, "Thank you, Sir. That's exactly what I was going for."
The thing is, hugh came to ryan and disney if I recall after coming to the conclusion that musicals weren't for him. Its fucking hilarious that he wanted this
Deadpool was grieving. He knew he died in the 2nd movie. Finding out his world was dying, he was hoping Wolverine was alive to save his world.
You missed the biggest one, when Deadpool is trying to take Wolverine's claws out of someone's ass:
- "make it stop!"
- "Mangold tried!"
The thing I think people forgot is that this is supposed to be a comedy. Of course they’re going to do some thing outlandish with the original Wolverine, but they still do the character a lot of respect by stating that he was the most important person in the universe and they have the restraint of not reviving him so that his story can have a definitive ending.
Compare that to a product that came out the same year as this movie: suicide squad kill the justice league
That game took a Batman, whose fate was intentionally supposed to be ambiguous and brought him back to life just so he could get murdered by a bunch of C List super villains with a couple rifles
I would add that it is also respectful as it does not retcon or deconstruct the Wolverine from the Logan movie. In lot of sequels they try to re-contextualize or repaint the actions of the main hero usually in a negative light. In Deadpool and Wolverine there is nothing of that, the Wolverine we knew in the movie is the same one we loved. No shocking revelations about him, no showing his actions were actually tainted by something else. In fact they do a good job of continuing the idea of Logan by having other characters recognize how heroic he was, and by the scenes with Laura where she remembers Logan for the hero he was.
It's also because we knew Deadpool is "seriously insane". In a way we knew DP do this as an act of love, not hate
I remember watching this sequence play out in the theater with my friend. When Bye Bye Bye started playing and he used Logan’s corpse to kill the TVA grunts we looked at each other and said “we are so fucking back”
Deadpool not desecrating the grave of Logan would be the most out of character moment for the merc with a mouth. Him digging up his corpse and then proceed to used it to dispatch enemies is absolutely something Deadpool would do.
A rather funny moment for me was in an interview where Hugh Jackman had a oh shit moment when he saw the first Deadpool movie and realized that Wolverine and Deadpool had to have a crossover movie.
“Somehow, Palperine returned.”
My take on the whole "Logan being dead" thing is Deadpool's knowledge beyond the 4th wall of how these things traditionally go in the comics. Wolverine has regenerated from much more horrific and deadly injuries; but on the big screen, specifically the MCU where they have (somewhat) kept things more grounded and realistic, there was no way he was living through those injuries. It works to subvert both audiences, and Deadpool's expectations after teeing up the scenario.
Well the Xman movies were not in the MCU but same logic applies
@@Taxevader-gk9ms I would argue that all movies are canon since they are all part of the Marvel multiverse. They just may not be canon to the "sacred timeline."
"Look, we know the title of this thing, so I know what you're wondering. How are we gonna do this without dishonoring Logan's memory? And I'll tell you how... We're not."
―Deadpool[src]
The scene also impacts Deadpool because he for once gets concrete evidence that he too one day will lose his regen power and eventually pass away. Something he has actually wished for to be true previously.
wade can finally kiss lady death
The way Wolverine was used in the film and how it acknowledged the events of *_Logan_* without dishonoring the memory of it is a direct middle finger to what Disney did with Palpatine in a little movie called *_The Rise of Palpatine._*
Not to mention that Logan is glorified as an incredible hero, in that his presense literally keeps the universe alive (funny jab at how he's easily the most popular aspect of those old X-men movies). Whereas the new Wolverine is literally the worst one, he's more cynical and angry and instead of wanting his place in the world he wants the damage he did to the world undone. It's a very nice contrast to show that they are different characters despite technically not being at all.
It’s also kind of a jab at how that popularity was forced on us in a way. The FoX-Men movies made it clear that every single character took a back seat to Wolverine. That in their eyes, nobody else mattered. The FoX-Men timeline was dying without Wolverine as an “anchor being” because 20th Century Fox literally anchored the entire franchise to him. Even if he wasn’t a part of the story at all, they’d find a way to shove in a cameo just to remind us that he’s the only one who really matters.
@@joebove4I just watched the first X-Men movie and they _really_ didn't do any of the characters any favors, including Wolverine. It's not a _bad_ movie, but it's a bad X-Men movie. The opening scene was very good, at least.
It took me the end of the film to realize what this film was. It was a loving tribute. A tribute to everything that came before that fox built the good and the bad. I never thought I could see Fan4stic with anything but hate and even knowing it’s not good seeing it in the end credits was sweet because it was part of the journey
I haven't seen Deadpool & Wolverine yet, but judging by this, even though our Wolverine is dead and gone, and even though Deadpool is flagrantly desecrating his grave and corpse, at the same time, Deadpool using Logan's corpse to wipe out the TVA agents is basically giving our Wolverine one last hurrah in kicking serious ass.
The saddest thing about this Wolverine. He was the original. Constantly infighting going off on his own. Fought with his PTSD. Drunk and a glass cannon who was constantly on about rogue. Probably the closest accurate Logan we will ever get.
The disrespect doesn't come from the corpse fight. It's the reveal that Logan sacrificing himself to save X23 doomed the world to annihilation, meaning that the better choice was to let her die. Even ignoring that, ita revealed that X23 was erased by the TVA shortly after his death, so his sacrifice was made completely meaningless.
Why I didn't even thought about that 💀
actually when you really think about it doesn't really matter when he dies at the universe is going to come to an end several thousand years after his or any other person who a universe depends on their life then how long they live their life is usually not really going to matter Because on a scale of Let's say 3000 years what does 200 years give or take really change
Even if Logan didn't save her and went on to live another 100 years or whether he had slipped foul broke his neck and then got decapitated when he was two years old There's just not that much overall time difference on the scale of the thousands of years
Which is a big reason why I really hate the idea of universes breaking down when some arbitrary individual dies As Honestly it just makes the whole universe therein utterly meaningless Because it's a universe that's only going to be around for each very short amount of time cosmically
Considering Marvel really wants people to care about the multiverse they sure seem to be doing a lot to absolutely ensure nobody cares about the Multi verse even in the one film that told a good multiverse story they had to add an element to it that completely ruins the whole point of the multi verse to begin with
Though I did find it really weird that X23 apparently was just sent to the graveyard Or whatever that dimension was called in the movie shortly after Logan so like you said it was completely pointless that he saved her
5:05 Well, knowing the TVA, they're gonna get around to resetting the area back to the way it's supposed to be at some point. It'll be like it never happened, in fact the TVA will consider it not to have happened.
You realize, in the beginning of the TV show, the charges doesn’t “reset the area”, they “prune the branch”. They remove that timeline from existence.
If it reset the area, we would see the branches flow back into “the sacred timeline”, they don’t. They got erased.
By the end of the TV show, and referenced in the movie, they no longer prune branches.
(Also it had to happen for the timeline to get saved by a different Wolverine. The TVA wouldn’t risk letting the timeline start dying again by trying to have that part not happen.)
@rttrttyan Ah, that makes sense. I need to hurry up and watch season 2 already.
@@rttrttyan Then what was Deadpool's deal with B-15 at the end? Didn't she agree to change the past?
@@SeanWheeler100 No, B-15 explain they couldn't fix Logan's shit in his timeline, Deadpool's deal was to send the people who helped them escape the void back home
There's a difference between desecrating a *character's grave and desecrating a *character's memory* and Deadpool & Wolverine nailed it.
Not only is it hillarious and in character, but it ,ironically, feels respectful by just straight up giving us what we wanted for ages, while making fun of the contrived nonsense it took to make this movie happen both in front of and behind the camera.
Respectful in its disrespect is the best way to put it.
Irony kills everything it touches.
We've been BATHING in it since the 1991. This is the natural outcome of it. "Being sincere is cringe and you're stupid for wanting to be"
I just finished watching the movie for the first time and this appears!
Good timing!
Well, it teased that there's a comic accurate and better version of Old Man Logan out there in the multiverse.
The shotgun-porch one or the REALLY short one? I know comics Logan is a "short dude" but he's not literally 4' tall, LOL.
@Laeiryn the shotgun porch one.
4' is probably too short yeah, guessing more like 5' something but he was basically the dwarf berserker of the d&d party that was the second generation of X-Men.
Storm, human druid.
Colossus, human paladin or half orc fighter/cleric
Nightcrawler, elf rogue
Banshee, human bard
I had to be *dragged* to see all three Deadpools by a friend because I *despise* loud mouthed, heartless cynical “heroes” like him. Even though I was gnashing my teeth in anger at his utterly *un* funny desecration of Logan, it made the scene where Logan-Worst utterly *chews him out* in the car for the mean-spirited loser he actually is all the *more* satisfying.
Plus... It's been 7 years.
I really think people like myself who saw Logan genuinely have to, y'know, grow the fuck up?
Or we could not arbitrarily bring back stories that had ended. Idk, it's nice to see new actors playing new characters in new stories that don't rely entirely on nostalgia to make manchildren clap like seals.
I hope we saw a Deadpool and Spider-man movie; that would be cool! Seeing Wade and Peter meeting each other, fighting a new villain, Peter playing with dog-pool and meeting the other Peter. That would be fun ☺
This changes where and when I watch DP and W on the MCU timeline grind.
I think they disrespect Logan because they say his world is going to end because Logan died
Don't tell sheev talks about this video.
Too late.
Muehehehe…
i have been summoned
I knew I was gonna love this movie when dead pool began smacking Logan’s skeleton with the shovel.
And then it cut to him sitting next to it near the tree.
They couldn’t have executed the intro any better.
And the NSYNC Bye Bye dance was such a perfect send off and start to the movie.
Honestly, jt saved him. Because now there is ZERO chance Logan can come back, his ass is one with the forest. Literally.
I think a much bigger middle finger to Logan would've been if that exact same Wolverine we followed through th Fox universe suddenly came back to life just for this one movie. In Deadpool and wolverine the character was respected Enough to be allowed to keep his ending.
The true disrespect to Logan is finding Laura in the void, basically only getting to live a few extra years from Logan's sacrifice
I’m sorry if a cop sacrifices himself for a kid and 5 years later that kid dies it doesn’t mean that cops death was meaningless. Laura even says she got to grow up because of him.
If anything his sacrifice means more now because Laura got to grow up with a different version of him.
@@sttrooper-lt7xp Do cops arbitrarily decide the course of a universes existence? This is an insane fallacy.
@@TheSEAempire It’s called an analogy. I’m using it to show how Logan’s death wasn’t pointless. Also Logan didn’t arbitrarily decide the course of a universe’s existence what are you talking about?!
@@sttrooper-lt7xp I misread the section about the cop analogy, so my bad, I thought you were comparing the TVA to cops. The TVA arbitrarily define reality, and this film introduces the batshit-crazy concept of anchor-beings, which messes with so much of... pretty much every piece of media tying into the Marvel multiverse. So Logan was such an important entity that his universe relies on his continued existence (a random mortal mutant who was born in the 1800's), and because of that his sacrifice to save a bunch of children is not what supposed to happen? In no way does that "respect" Logan as the uploader tried to claim. By including the TVA, the writers removed all personal agency from the characters, since they determine what's "allowed" or not, and with regards to Logan, it means he never actually had any real choice to make the lives of others better or worse, which is... dumb as hell. Frankly I'm amazed so many people think this film is good when it recontextualizes other films in all the worst possible ways.
Cant be even dead yet in deadpool time line, its like 2022 whatever, and logan events is like 2030s... no?
They kinda forgot that Logan would have another 5 years of life to him.
Logan is set in 2029. Deadpool & Wolverine is set in 2024. It still works because Paradox tells Deadpool that Logan WILL die later down the line, which would result in the end of his universe.
@@Egg-ou8gf anyway the dude who made beat for it did pretty good job, i got feeling that he is same guy who made beats for SpiderVerse and Black Panter
Logan ruined Fox's X-Men series.
Honestly Logan was one of the worst movies of all time it had no right to exist. So I think they should have made it even more disrespectful. That scene at the opening of the Deadpool & Wolverine, Deadpool was beating Logan’s skeleton and his grave in rage because he has a burning hatred for that pile of trash you call a film. If you do make a rated R Movie by Marvel, ADD SOME COMEDY! Deadpool had every right to make fun of the poor trash movie. Take my advice for anyone who hasn’t seen Logan and you want to. For the love of God, DON’T! 🤬🤬🤬😤😤😤😡😡
Why are all your clips of the movie PAL pitched? Kind of a strange choice
0:56 nick fury always shoots someone in any movie he's in.
always.
Alright Fine, you've convinced me
3:34 This was so bad, I created my own 'head canon scene' to explain it: If someone asked how did you make something so miraculous, Halle (whatever her character's name is) would just say "We got it from some....out of town visitors to New Mexico back in '47, as a thank you for helping them get back home. We can't replicate it, and don't have much, so we use it only for Very Special people" 😄
Deadpool desicrated Logan's corpse, not his legacy.
The title really confuses me
But sadly it makes the disposable income crowd happy.
It's a pulitzer for today's kids
Considering the comics revived Wolverine after his healing powers were turned off and he was completely covered in molten adamantium... I'm not convinced Logan can't comeback from several years of decay.
The movie is set in 2024 so the question I have is how was he even able to dig up Logan's grave when his death hasn't happened yet? Did he travel five years into the future just to dig it up?
Probably? I mean, it's Deadpool, is that really so beyond him? The TVA can travel anywhere in a time stream so I just assumed Deadpool went to 2029 to dig up Logans grave since the TVA told him he would die.
@avocadothecat but Logan would still be alive in Wade's present so his universe still had it's "anchor being". With that taken into consideration, why would he even need to go to the future when he could have found Logan in the present and said hey don't die.
@@BradLad56 he was told that he'd die and his universe would fizzle out no? It wouldn't really matter that he's not dead yet when he would be in 5 years. I guess the only argument would be to try and prevent his death in the first place - but Deadpool thought good Wolvie survived so he went to dig up the grave in the future to prove to the TVA that Logan wasn't dead and that his universe doesn't have to be destroyed. After all, the plot is preventing the time ripper from killing off his universe - all of his universe. His present past and future. I think the only thing that makes this inconsistency work is the fact that the TVA can time travel and that they plan on shredding the universe that looses it's anchor being. Since the TVA is outside time, Logan did already die/is still alive/wasn't even born yet. Frankly the concept of anchor beigns is a bit stupid - but eh... I can live with it.
idk if I could convey my mental gymnastics
@avocadothecat yeah it would die......in a few thousand years. Paradox said he was speeding it up, but it was still the present and Logan was still alive so that means the world hadn't started dying yet so technically there wasn't anything to speed up yet.
Did it better than ttg who just had a dead corpse of panthor after the og actors death
So the title is misleading.
4:39 I don't think adamantium can rot.
i couldn't help but laugh my ass off watching this scene
Why does everyone praise Logan? It's just some old cowboy trope, Wolverine isn't meant to die. If anything, Logan cheapened his legacy.
Logan was trash so this made me feel wayyyyyy better, thank you for reconning the ruination of my favorite character
Logan, the movie? It was a very different kind of movie than I was expecting, and it made me feel upset and uncomfortable, but I thought it was a great movie. It was clearly meant to make the voter feel that way, and it very much succeeded. I don't think it was disrespectful to the character, either.
What I don't get is wh whatever biological tissue of Logan's remains can't be scraped from the metal, and allowed to regenerate.
The film pretty deliberately ignores that. I know he died of adamantium poisoning, but if you scrape away some Logan epithelials and stick them in a petri dish, based on canon, he should regenerate. He can regenerate from a single cell, so where's our new Logan?
Logan cannot grow back full body parts. An example of this is the age of apocalypse wolverine who lost his hand. Also when hes dead, he is simply, well, dead, and his immune system will stop his regeneration.
@@CinemaCapYT And yet, in the comics there are examples of Logan regenerating from as little as a drop of his own blood. It's a choppy canon with rules that could never work in th real world oe we would have unlimited Logans growing from dead skin cells, but the fact is, in universe, it would be possible.
It wasnt bad for a two hour long gay joke.
17 years for us to get to know Logan/Wolverine as a character... and what do we really know about him? Every story tells us what he did and shows us some of the consequences of that, but what has he actually DONE? What did he do as weapon X? How did he learn how to fight? I think this was one of the most overrated movie character EVER
Hmmm…
Let's not ignore Laura being in the Void, implying Wolverine's sacrifice and Laura's survival were not supposed to happen. I'd hardly call that respectful.
I think that's simply because the Fox movie timeline is so separate from the MCU sacred timeline that everything from the Fox movies would be pruned and sent to the void. Something to that effect at least
@@purplyoshi6754 Does that make it "respectful" as the video uploader claimed?
it doesn't imply that though. in fact the movie outright states the opposite. Original wolverine dying was correct, and in line with what was "supposed" to happen in that timeline. otherwise the people at the TVA would not consider that wolverine to be "the best wolverine". What is Implied by Laura being in the void is that, down the road she did something, or something happened that wasn't "supposed" to happen and the TVA pruned her. hell she outright states that she got to grow up because of OG wolverine, meaning there was a good gap between Wolverine dying at the end of Logan and Laura being pruned. if that even is "the same" Laura and not a variant who splits off from a later point, Ala how the Loki from the show diverges in the events of the first avengers, while a visually identical Loki persisted and died at the hands of thanos in infinity war.
To add, it's also worth considering that the void represents projects that never where and cancelled movies, universes, etc. This is why channing tatams gambit is there, his movie was cancelled so he's in the void. Similarly, you could see this Laura as the Laura from the X23/ Laura kiney wolverine movie that never was.
We need a parody of the Deadpool and Wolverine movie. Make everything G-rated, swap all the genders and races except for Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman. It would be funny to get the movie we didn't want after getting the movie we needed!
I hated Logan. Worst Wolverine movie, period. Don't care about your opinions either.
Cheers, Martin 💀
You want a cookie or something for that announcement?
Bro lookin like he eats drywall.
The whole movie was just bad.
Yep.
Nah it's peak
@@BlueBlur2003 Peak stupidity, yes.
I wish he did not mock God with all the Jesus and Mysia "jokes".
I wish religious people could still take a joke when it's directed at them instead of someone else
@@HughJass901bet you wouldn't do it to Muhammad.
@@KLamki1 Why, because a bunch of third worlders barely pushing 60 IQ and self hating Twitter cultists might get mad about it? The only reason people are afraid to touch Islam is because the majority of its followers have yet to leave the stone age and will saw your head off for criticizing their kiddy fiddler messiah.
Sorry have to agree with deadpool.... thats not how regenerative powers work. Hes not dead! Logan was crap just for that reason. Yeah the guy who grew himself from a hand in the comics dies from metal poisoning. Bullshit!! Watched in theaters, never watched it again. Only good part in the movie was the concept of xavier getting dementia and accidentally killed people, and the x 23. Other than that, movie sucked! Oh, Wolverine is old? What the hell ever!
Oh yeah, let’s just disregard that the films are not the same continuity as the comics so rules from comics don’t apply.
bruuh who gives a f about some rules beeing broken when doing a movie. Logan at least had a story to tell. Deadpool 3 was just fan service and humor for 12 year olds. Do you like this more?
please reduce your authism
This is a nothing burger just complete rambling
Technically he died from alcoholism it stunted his regenerative properties it's why it took him so much longer to heal
@@TheSEAempire If the comic book style regenerative factor is a thing for deadpool... it should also be a thing for wolverine