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maybe you can make a video for (1) what if you want most realistic keys, which piano to get... (probably FP-30X)... and (2) if you want good sound right from the speakers, which piano to get (probably XE20 and CT-S1 and which is better?) (3)... maybe something else... like best piano sound? (probably the DGX670 CFX sound... and then the XE20 Steinway sound)
08:08 - the hidden feature of the Roland FP-30X. It's possible to record it without any additional audio interface. I've tested it myself and I can also confirm that it works well :)
About 9 months ago I tried a P-125 for the first time. Its GHS action could be better, but felt much nicer than the GHS on the P-45, which I also tried (again) at the same time. So guys, don't judge the P-125 action by the inferior implementaion on the P-45.
Thank you! The last digital keyboard I read had weighted keys and a great touch was an enormous disappointment to me as someone who played an analogue piano for years. I bought but could never get into using the thing, even though I'm really keen to explore different sounds. Looking into making another purchase now. Details like the mechanism and realistic texture on the keys are things I'm realising, as I watch this, that I never appreciated but made all the difference. Great review, many thanks!
@@3xperiment8 Received it today, have also tried out P125 Many times at a friend‘s house Compared to p125 the Keys just feel great, natural pianolike ivory feel Couldn‘t think about better key action- Happy that I went with Roland (and not more unrealistic keys)
The P-125 is 3 years old, so it will be replaced in a few months. Will be interesting to see if Yamaha introduces a 3-sensor action and includes new/more samples. Then they'll reclaim the throne from Roland. Also I expect to see a replacement for the Kawai ES110 soon. So whilst the FP-30X may be the best digital piano for USD $600 in Feb 2021 - it probably won't be the best anymore if you are watching this video after July/August 2021.
Agreed. I own an FP-30 as well. I tried the P-125 and to my dismay, it was still leagues below the FP-30 despite being a later release. The thing that stands out to me about the FP-30X other than the increased sounds and polyphony is definitely the ability to stream songs via bluetooth, which is what I've always wanted to do with my FP-30 but is unfortunately not possible.
I think Yamaha's P-125 piano sound is a bit better than Roland FP-30X, but I ended up choosing the FP-30X because of the action. The P-125 action is so springy, while the FP-30X action feels very similar to an upright's piano action. Also the FP-30X seems to be more sensitive to touch intensities and you can tell by the sound, more similar to a real piano than the P-125 which.
I always prefer the Sound of the Roland. I like Yamaha, Korg and Alesis, I own all four and find the Roland has the sound most like a good grand piano. My old Roland HP330 has died and I need to replace it. I have used workstations and wouldn't mind having some of that on a piano but don't want to sacrifice the piano sound. Any recommendations? Love your videos.
I do agree with you about those comparisons. You should also try Nord Pianos. The only digital piano that sounds better than Roland in my experience. But the price is quite expensive. So yeah, Roland is always overall better to go with
8:27 it is not listed for a reason. Either it is likely not stable and thus roland does not have to support it. This feature will likely be firmware upgraded or it will phase out.
Thank you....Just ordered my Roland FP 30 x yesterday....I am so curious about the feeling of the Keys. About 11 years ago I bought my last Digital Piano ( Korg C-520) . So excited to test the Roland myself. I always love to play the Piano, but my Korg C 520 Keys make clacking noises...with Headphones it is still great...I turned 50 last year and as a Child and young adult I took Piano Lessons for 10 years. I always missed my old upright Piano and the feeling of the Keys on it. I hope I will revive my Passion to play the Piano again. Your Video made me so excited and curious ! Thank you ! Greetings from Germany 🎹
Thanks for the vids, mate! Appreciate that you play the same pieces, as a beginner it helps me get some baseline differentiation between the tones. I ended up paying the little extra for the FP-30X, as much as I like acoustic Yamaha pianos and drums, Roland seems to have the digital/electric/however-you'd-like-to-call-it segment on lockdown. My e-drums are also Roland, fantastic instruments.
The FP-30X adds 1/4" lineouts which weren't available on the prior FP30 I believe. I've used the P125 the last few years and think it is a strong improvement over the prior models (P95, P105 etc.) It sounds very clear and the speakers are improved. I am well aware many people do prefer the key action on the FP30 series- and do not dispute that. However, the P125 is around 7 pounds lighter than the Roland. I think both boards are very good for their price point and it depends on the user. i.e. I am willing to sacrifice some of the action to have something more portable.
Kudos to Roland for making this keyboard. Since I just purchased the P125 I will choose to focus on the positive aspects of that keyboard (I really do love it anyway, so that helps!). Thanks for another excellent review/comparison. "Let the music keep our spirits high." Jackson Browne
Dear Jeremy, from this comparative i definitely chose my new Roland FP30X. Thank you very much for your orientation videos that help us a lot when making decisions. Congratulations and keep going on
The Yamaha P125 piano sound matches very closely to my Yamaha Grand and I do prefer it to the Roland. I hear an strange, phasey wavering sound with the Roland acoustic piano sample but the other sounds definitely sound better on the Roland. I wish the Yamaha had the Roland action...
Yamaha has a very beautiful melodic sound Indeed. Roland sounds more realistic though. About the keys, I dunno what people see in this stiff keys on Roland. They are heavier than a real acoustic piano.
I had a similar experience with the FP50. Didn't respond at all how I expected, so I spent a bit more and bought the P-255 instead. As Jeremy says, it can be down to psychoacoustics. But think about what "supernatural" means. Literally: Over-natural. Exaggerated? Roland may be compensating for lost sound that pure sampling doesn't capture, or it may be trying to be too clever. Dunno. Some of my favourite pianists play/played Roland RD pianos, and the early ones weren't so "realistic", but they made them sound fantastic. Would I have enjoyed playing their pianos? Dunno. I try not to get too hung up on issues of realism. You either enjoy playing a piano or you don't, and you can't tell just by playing a few notes, or by hearing someone else play it.
It's funny how the Yamahas grow on many of us. Maybe because they are so incisive? Is that realistic? Dunno. What works, works. I love playing my Yamaha P-255.
In Brasil the FP 30x costs R$1500,00 ~ 2000,00 more than the P-125. I'm in doubt between the P-125 and the Roland FP 10, they are almost the same price, only R$350,00 of difference between both... What would you prefer?
Went to a music store to try the Roland Fp30x and the Yamaha P-225 (newer version) and the Roland was the obvious choice for me. The action and keys felt much better and the piano as a whole felt less cheap
i have been stuck on getting either but the roland is backed up for orders and i’m not patient to wait 😫 so now i want to get the yamaha but i love the idea of the bluetooth on the roland but i like the sound of the yamaha better 😩😩
Thank you for the wonderful review!! I got a Alesis recital couple months ago with a thought "what if I won't like piano?" - it turns out, I am wrong, thou I am still a quite new piano student. learning is painful, as soon as I "concur" a practice, the melody + a sense of achievement bring me joy and a smile, helps my winter blue.. the recital keys are kinda flimsy, it looks like a toy after I saw and played my friend's real piano LOL Im not competing with friends, it's just a feeling that when you try something delish, its hard to go back. is fp30x the best choice in $750ish range?
Samples beats modelling in my opinion. I think there’s a special type of warmth and reverb that comes from the wood cabinet of a piano that v-piano or supernatural hasn’t surpassed yet… not to mention piano is a percussion instrument which makes it too complex for any sort of wave theory
Hi Jeremy, Thanks for your several videos, my FP-30X is on his way. Can you tell me if it is possible , with the "secret" function, to play audio from a computer to the piano speakers through the USB connexion ? (Usage would be : FP-30X MIDI thru USB -> Computer VST -> VST Audio -> FP-30X USB -> FP-30X Speakers)
Partly based on this review I went to guitar city to purchase the 30x. I was surprised I liked the Yamaha action better. The 30x felt like they overdid the escapement step when pushing keys and it felt clunky. Also liked sound of Yamaha better and there are kids keyboards with less cheap feeling buttons than Roland.
I agree. I played both in the shop for about 2 hours. At first I preferred the fp-30x, but eventually liked the p-125's action more. Also preferred the latter's sound more. However, I miss the bluetooth connectivity
My teacher uses a grand piano and if you think a Roland action is clunky you should try a tired 30 year old grand piano. However when you hit staccato chords on it, it staccatos you back.
@@jelomirabcede4851 Such a difficult choice. Do you still like the Yamaha? We had one for years and some sounds on it are unmatched by the others. I have a Roland now and play almost always with headphones. The grand piano sound grows on you until the other brands sound off.
The problem I have with the Roland's acoustic piano sound is the bass is a bit too big, unlike most acoustic pianos, and the treble is a bit too sweet. In terms of hearing the tones in chords and harmonies, that's where Yamaha does well because it isn't a booming bass piano sample yet the lower bass is quite deep and strong but it still offers a clarity in the bass and tenor that is pretty unique in digital pianos (and maybe in acoustic pianos as well). But the Roland is a wonderful digital piano and both Roland and Kawai gives more bang for the buck in the lower to mid digital range than does Yamaha. What Yamaha gives you is its signature Yamaha sound, at least for acoustics, and you know the GHS will last, even if it gets noisy and somewhat rattly as it ages. Time for a new low-end action Yamaha and a bit more features to make it feature-wise more competitive with Roland and Kawai and Casio. Now for the other sounds, they sound fine on both. Just different versions of them. Also I trust Roland's durability and quality control over Kawai (digital only) and think it is on par with Yamaha. One other thing is I don't think Yamaha likes Roland uses (X) at the end of the names of their pianos. That's something Yamaha has uses in their acoustic and digital pianos (CFX, CX, SX) and on the digital side (N1X, NU1X, N3X).
Thanks for making this comment Benjamin. I will check out my piano to see if it is similar. It is an HP603A so it might not have these vices. I'm not sure if it can be changed in the piano designer app. I must also drop the metronome volume.
@@philgray1023 Hi Phil, were you able to look after your own piano? Have you spotted similar issues? Can these problems be overcome in the piano designer application? I would be very happy if you could share your experiences.
I purchased this piano in the white from Amazon and have had it for about a week now and really trying to like and keep it. Prior to purchasing watched all of the you tube shootout’s reviews, and comparison videos beforehand. In every case the audio quality was pristine and had a clarity and sparkle throughout the entire range of the keyboard. This clarity seems to be absent from my unit with the exception of the top three octaves. It’s hard to describe as I can hear that the quality of the samples are there, they simply lack that pristine audio quality heard in the videos. It’s certain that those pianos in the videos are coming out of the line out outputs and running through some EQ and additional signal processing. Thinking that perhaps it was the acoustics in my room I took the unit out and played it in church today with no improvement in the sonic quality, so I’m thinking of returning it and purchasing the RD 88. I already own the RD2000 so am certainly able to make a comparison but it’s too big to haul back and forth. I got this piano for the portability. Has any other owners experienced what I’m talking about?
Do you happen to be using headphones or the integrated speakers? I plan on getting the FP-30X soon and I'm curious if the speakers are what makes it muddy to you or if you experience the same thing with good headphones.
i would like to ask you if you have ever tested thomann products and specially Thomann SP-5600 ... it is good enough to compare with yamaha & roland brand ?
Korg D1, Roland FP 30x, or Yamaha P125? Seems the D1 gets rave reviews but no one puts it on the best digital piano to buy in 2021. Is the Korg D1 still relevant?
The key action is definitely nicer on the Roland, but the onboard controls on the Yamaha are way better, the Smart Pianist app still smokes the Roland app (and yes the Roland app has bluetooth, but the connection drops constantly), the Yamaha rhythms are implemented way better, and they're not the same price, at least in Canada: Roland FP-30x=$1100, Yamaha P125=$850. I had an FP-30 (not the FP-30x) for 6 months and traded it back on a P-125 and I'm way happier
If the connection drops it is your equipment. I salvaged my Older Yamaha with a Roland Wm1. Yamaha have always been poor on Midi they are Apple centric and could not be bothered keeping their apps up to date with the latest Midi standards so my $75 Yamaha MDBT is now junk.
When it comes to Digital Piano, Yamaha P125 is more natural piano sounds with its using CFX piano... Unlike roland FP30X piano sounds sounds more like robotic
It's a case of psychoacoustics. At these price, you get high quality sampled acoustic pianos. They are all sounds of a real piano, it's just a matter of preference. Just like how many of my students for play on cheap Yamaha U1 upright acoustic pianos don't like the sound of a $250,000 Bosendorfer grand. 😉
@@fabriziop8044 since I started to listening to this roland, I had the feeling that it sounds more like a real piano to me. I had two yamaha and thought they sounded great, but once I played keyscape in my DAW, I realized how bad my piano yamaha sounded.
Hi Jeremy! Thanks for the excellent videos you post regularly! One question, do the keys on the Roland make any annoying loud clicking sound when playing? What about the Yamaha?
I have mixed feelings coz I'm not a big fan of UI offloading to companion apps, but sure, a BT connection may make the experience better. Anyway, excellent new product overall, and excellent review!
This is petty. An app could be an accessory but not a requirement. At least they should provide specs and also a PC version. These App stuffs make these products feel like a disposable items with built-in obsolescence. Tomorrow Apple/Google might block the account and then you'll have no apps and lose functionality just like that.
The Yamaha P-125 has been superseded by the Yamaha P-225. I recently purchased A Roland FP-30X at an actual store in my community. Both the FP-30X and the P-225 were listed at $699, which is an online price. I would say, these instruments, along with the Casio Privia PX-S1100 represent the top of the entry level price tier. What you want to get depends on what you want to do. My past experience, though limited, was on acoustic piano and acoustic piano emulation was what I wanted.
Once again Jeremy, I just want to say, that I really appreciate your insight into all the keyboards you review...we may not buy every keyboard of course, but we still learn so much about the technology that comes along....thanks again sir for that....God Bless
Excellent review on these keyboards can you tell me what tune you where playing at the opening. I recognize the melody but for the life of me I can’t remember what band played this.
I feel like Yamaha has fallen into the same trap that a lot of traditional flagship music brands have. They have begun to live by brand recognition, while other manufacturers are offering better features in a similar price range. Fender and Gibson are falling into that in the guitar world as well.
@@amanshrestha2147 No? Roland FP-30x is merely a few euros more costly than the Yamaha P-125, and according to this video, also have a few features up on it... So I'd definitely say the opposite!
What's the name of the tune you play at the beginning?.....it seems it might be good for beginners because it's slow and laid back. Finally, a Roland in my price range with good amplification. I can't wait to put my Yamaha PSR-140 back on the shelf. Bet you didn't know any PSR-140's even exist anymore....LOL. It was purchased for my kids at Christmas time years ago....they never used it. I pulled it out of the box a month ago and decided to learn piano. I think the Roland will make me look more like a serious professional and a winner even if I play like a bad amateur and a loser...LOL. Looking the part is half the battle. Now where is my tuxedo?
Great video Jeremy I love your channel! I had gotten my first piano, the Casio cdp-s350 because of your videos, and im thinking of upgrading to the roland FP-60X, mainly for recording purposes. Would you say its a good idea or are other options more viable? My main concern is tone, being able to customize my sound more, and good recording audio. My cdp does fairly well but after a year and I half I can hear the difference between my keyboard and other higher end pianos so I'm thinking of switching. Anyways keep up the good work brother!
@@Zoco101 virtual instruments, at least for great sounding ones, can be pricey and thats for each piano or virtual instrument. I think its better to buy a great piano with extra sounds and I would prolly spend as much or less than buying vst's you know? Also I do enjoy playing out loud and letting the instrument ring throughout the house
@@Mawamo2227 If you don't like "pushing" the keys with your guts instead of playing them, go with the P125. That's my advice. Roland FP keys are too heavy. Heavier than an acoustic piano.
Is it worth buying fp-30x, if i already have fp-30? I am interested only in piano. Is 256 polyphony vastly changes the sound of piano? I am pretty happy with my fp-30, but this release of fp-30x confuses me now. :)
I should be very surprised if it's worth making this modest upgrade, unless you need the additional connectivity. Wait till you can afford an FP60, or whatever supercedes it.
@@Elazarko I can't understand why manufacturers don't make more 73-note pianos (and even 61-note pianos) with proper weighted actions. There's some kind of snobbery involved it seems. As I mentioned in another post, touring classical musicians pay to have 88-note weighted pianos reduced to even fewer than 73 notes, so they can get them on aircraft and practise in their hotel rooms. I have a sprung 61-note keyboard for special situations and for effects. I've done gigs where an 88-note piano simply doesn't fit on the stage, so we couldn't use the piano on those gigs.
Excellent video! One of my main selling points is the onboard speaker quality and how the sound is expressed and fills the room. When I bought the yamaha p45 i was disappointed by how muddy and “muffled” it sounds because of the speaker system and because they pointed downwards (I had a keyboard stand)zNow I am unsure between the P125 or the roland fp30x. When you said the yamaha is more nuanced, what exactly did you mean? Is it more or less muddy sounding than the roland? Thanks!
Hello, a question: i am about to buy a yamaha p-125 and i would like to know if there is any key for fine modulation of the sound frequency, so you can play at 432 Hz instead of 440 Hz. Thanks.
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Have you heard any word about Yamaha replacing the P125 with a new keyboard? i.e. the P115 got replaced by the P125, etc. Thanks!
maybe you can make a video for (1) what if you want most realistic keys, which piano to get... (probably FP-30X)... and (2) if you want good sound right from the speakers, which piano to get (probably XE20 and CT-S1 and which is better?) (3)... maybe something else... like best piano sound? (probably the DGX670 CFX sound... and then the XE20 Steinway sound)
The Roland price link is pointing to another model. FP10
The key action of the old FP30 is what sold me.
08:08 - the hidden feature of the Roland FP-30X. It's possible to record it without any additional audio interface.
I've tested it myself and I can also confirm that it works well :)
About 9 months ago I tried a P-125 for the first time. Its GHS action could be better, but felt much nicer than the GHS on the P-45, which I also tried (again) at the same time. So guys, don't judge the P-125 action by the inferior implementaion on the P-45.
I just ordered my FP-30X for March. I can’t wait! Thanks for the videos!
Are you not afraid of the clicking key issue of the FP series is known for?
@@spankmunky316 that’s exactly what I was thinking lol
@@spankmunky316 could u elaborate
@@spankmunky316 they fixed it in the fb x series
Honest evaluation. Side by side comparisons, as you do them, are super informative. This is one of your strong points. Thank you, Doctor G.W.
125 sounds very soft and soft!!!!!!! But when i hear the 30x.. the smooth connection between sounds to sounds... wow.. just felt so soft.. awesome..
Roland-fp30x feels like it’s touching my heart
Same here 🤣 Whenever I was looking at other brands, my heart still attached with Roland FP30X
Just ordered Roland FP-30X, the reason is only in my opinion and many other, the action in this price can't be beat. Tanks
Thank you! The last digital keyboard I read had weighted keys and a great touch was an enormous disappointment to me as someone who played an analogue piano for years. I bought but could never get into using the thing, even though I'm really keen to explore different sounds. Looking into making another purchase now. Details like the mechanism and realistic texture on the keys are things I'm realising, as I watch this, that I never appreciated but made all the difference. Great review, many thanks!
Glad I could help!
totally hyped to receive my fp30x, really want to use it with Ableton, keyscape etc.
Have fun!
Keys are too heavy
@@3xperiment8 Received it today, have also tried out P125 Many times at a friend‘s house
Compared to p125 the Keys just feel great, natural pianolike ivory feel
Couldn‘t think about better key action-
Happy that I went with Roland (and not more unrealistic keys)
Hi, how do you like the piano? Have you experienced any clicking noises of the (black) keys?
Whoaaa just what I needed to see, ordered FP-30X 🕺🏽
Have fun!
So excited to be getting mine soon and learning to play. Thanks for going over the FP-30X in great detail with your recent vids!
Man, the FP sounds and looks gorgeous 😤👌
The P-125 is 3 years old, so it will be replaced in a few months. Will be interesting to see if Yamaha introduces a 3-sensor action and includes new/more samples. Then they'll reclaim the throne from Roland. Also I expect to see a replacement for the Kawai ES110 soon. So whilst the FP-30X may be the best digital piano for USD $600 in Feb 2021 - it probably won't be the best anymore if you are watching this video after July/August 2021.
still waiting :D
August
welp...
When will upgrade.?
@shutup Lool, still not heard anything coming into 2022!
I think FP30 was already better than P125, this FP30x upgrade made it even better. Actually FP30x got much closer to FP60 (not X, the previous one).
Agreed. I own an FP-30 as well. I tried the P-125 and to my dismay, it was still leagues below the FP-30 despite being a later release. The thing that stands out to me about the FP-30X other than the increased sounds and polyphony is definitely the ability to stream songs via bluetooth, which is what I've always wanted to do with my FP-30 but is unfortunately not possible.
Thank you, what a great review. I was having a battle between these two, but you have definitely helped me make a decision.
Which did you get?
I think Yamaha's P-125 piano sound is a bit better than Roland FP-30X, but I ended up choosing the FP-30X because of the action. The P-125 action is so springy, while the FP-30X action feels very similar to an upright's piano action. Also the FP-30X seems to be more sensitive to touch intensities and you can tell by the sound, more similar to a real piano than the P-125 which.
Do you know what song that is in the beginning
Hi, how do you like the piano? Have you experienced any clicking noises of the (black) keys?
@@jacksmith7576 Erik Satie - Gymnopédie No.1
@@jacksmith7576 Gymnopedies, from Erik Satie
I always prefer the Sound of the Roland. I like Yamaha, Korg and Alesis, I own all four and find the Roland has the sound most like a good grand piano. My old Roland HP330 has died and I need to replace it. I have used workstations and wouldn't mind having some of that on a piano but don't want to sacrifice the piano sound. Any recommendations? Love your videos.
I do agree with you about those comparisons.
You should also try Nord Pianos. The only digital piano that sounds better than Roland in my experience. But the price is quite expensive. So yeah, Roland is always overall better to go with
8:27 it is not listed for a reason. Either it is likely not stable and thus roland does not have to support it.
This feature will likely be firmware upgraded or it will phase out.
Thank you....Just ordered my Roland FP 30 x yesterday....I am so curious about the feeling of the Keys. About 11 years ago I bought my last Digital Piano ( Korg C-520) . So excited to test the Roland myself. I always love to play the Piano, but my Korg C 520 Keys make clacking noises...with Headphones it is still great...I turned 50 last year and as a Child and young adult I took Piano Lessons for 10 years. I always missed my old upright Piano and the feeling of the Keys on it. I hope I will revive my Passion to play the Piano again. Your Video made me so excited and curious ! Thank you ! Greetings from Germany 🎹
Great choice! Have fun.
Hi, how do you like the piano? Have you experienced any clicking noises of the (black) keys?
Hi, can you please respond to the question regarding your experience of the Roland action? Thanks in advance, Adam
Great review, Jeremy. These were my 2 finalists and you just settled the final decision. Thanks!
I'm happy to be of service. 🤝
Same lol. I did end up going with the P125 though.
@@iamnotoforiginald9206how come?
Thank you for this commparison! You made my birthday :D
Happy birthday and have fun!
@@JeremySee Thank you! I hope I will have :D
Thanks for the vids, mate! Appreciate that you play the same pieces, as a beginner it helps me get some baseline differentiation between the tones. I ended up paying the little extra for the FP-30X, as much as I like acoustic Yamaha pianos and drums, Roland seems to have the digital/electric/however-you'd-like-to-call-it segment on lockdown. My e-drums are also Roland, fantastic instruments.
Fp-30x is the clear winner. Thnx for the detailed review.
Aha ur funny
Thanks for the video Jeremy. You make them both sound good.
The FP-30X adds 1/4" lineouts which weren't available on the prior FP30 I believe. I've used the P125 the last few years and think it is a strong improvement over the prior models (P95, P105 etc.) It sounds very clear and the speakers are improved. I am well aware many people do prefer the key action on the FP30 series- and do not dispute that. However, the P125 is around 7 pounds lighter than the Roland. I think both boards are very good for their price point and it depends on the user. i.e. I am willing to sacrifice some of the action to have something more portable.
Thanks for sharing.
Kudos to Roland for making this keyboard. Since I just purchased the P125 I will choose to focus on the positive aspects of that keyboard (I really do love it anyway, so that helps!). Thanks for another excellent review/comparison. "Let the music keep our spirits high." Jackson Browne
Enjoy!
@@JeremySee thanks! I’m no great musician, but playing is very therapeutic! Can’t help but love it!
Thank you once again, Jeremy. I can see your enthusiasm about the FP30X. How does this Roland action compare to the Kawai CN39 for instance?
Thank you for your kind words. Where I live, Kawai DPs are almost non-existent. I cannot review or compare something I have no access to.
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Can’t wait till you get your hands on a FP90X!
Mine gets delivered tomorrow and I'm so excited
Dear Jeremy, from this comparative i definitely chose my new Roland FP30X. Thank you very much for your orientation videos that help us a lot when making decisions. Congratulations and keep going on
Appreciate your insight on these keyboards. I think the FP30X definitely sounds like the better option.
What is this piece of music played at he beginning please
Yamaha sounds just touched my heart.. awesome..
Nicely played Jeremy😘
Ordered my fp30x yesterday, can’t wait!
Lucky you! Have fun. 🎉
The Roland makes me feel all the feels 😢😅!! Don't know why? Is it maybe the additional polyphony and key velocity grading??
Went to Guitar Center today. The P125a spoke to me more than the FP30x, but I’m going to make another visit before I pull the plug.
hi...what did you got finally and how was it so far...?
The Yamaha P125 piano sound matches very closely to my Yamaha Grand and I do prefer it to the Roland. I hear an strange, phasey wavering sound with the Roland acoustic piano sample but the other sounds definitely sound better on the Roland. I wish the Yamaha had the Roland action...
Sound preference has much to do with psychoacoustics
Yamaha has a very beautiful melodic sound Indeed. Roland sounds more realistic though. About the keys, I dunno what people see in this stiff keys on Roland. They are heavier than a real acoustic piano.
I had a similar experience with the FP50. Didn't respond at all how I expected, so I spent a bit more and bought the P-255 instead. As Jeremy says, it can be down to psychoacoustics. But think about what "supernatural" means. Literally: Over-natural. Exaggerated? Roland may be compensating for lost sound that pure sampling doesn't capture, or it may be trying to be too clever. Dunno. Some of my favourite pianists play/played Roland RD pianos, and the early ones weren't so "realistic", but they made them sound fantastic. Would I have enjoyed playing their pianos? Dunno. I try not to get too hung up on issues of realism. You either enjoy playing a piano or you don't, and you can't tell just by playing a few notes, or by hearing someone else play it.
@@3xperiment8 Which is better for you, P515, P125 or FP90?.
@@Zoco101 Which is the best key action for you?.
@Jeremy See would you say that now this Roland FP-30X is the best in its price point? Thank you. I appreciate all the reviews. Greetings!!
I've heard that Roland's PHA4 is getting clicky after a while. Is this true? If it is, I'm gonna buy the Yamaha.
As for me, I still prefer the natural sound of the yamaha
It's funny how the Yamahas grow on many of us. Maybe because they are so incisive? Is that realistic? Dunno. What works, works. I love playing my Yamaha P-255.
If Yamaha is natural, Roland is super natural ! Roland wins.
Do you know what song that is in the beginning?
@@jacksmith7576 it's Gymnopédie No.1 by Erik Satie
Nah for me it’s fp30 at the end I use it with MainStage ☠️☠️
In Brasil the FP 30x costs R$1500,00 ~ 2000,00 more than the P-125. I'm in doubt between the P-125 and the Roland FP 10, they are almost the same price, only R$350,00 of difference between both... What would you prefer?
Are those raw speakers? Like the built in speakers?
Happy to have canceled my order for the P125 when the FP-30X came out. Now if they just delivered it...
Everyone wants one! 😅
Looks like they were watching this, because they are shipping it today! Woot!
lucky you!
Went to a music store to try the Roland Fp30x and the Yamaha P-225 (newer version) and the Roland was the obvious choice for me. The action and keys felt much better and the piano as a whole felt less cheap
i have been stuck on getting either but the roland is backed up for orders and i’m not patient to wait 😫 so now i want to get the yamaha but i love the idea of the bluetooth on the roland but i like the sound of the yamaha better 😩😩
I appreciate the effort you put in to review , a big thanks to you and all the love In the world
Thank you for the wonderful review!! I got a Alesis recital couple months ago with a thought "what if I won't like piano?" - it turns out, I am wrong, thou I am still a quite new piano student. learning is painful, as soon as I "concur" a practice, the melody + a sense of achievement bring me joy and a smile, helps my winter blue.. the recital keys are kinda flimsy, it looks like a toy after I saw and played my friend's real piano LOL Im not competing with friends, it's just a feeling that when you try something delish, its hard to go back. is fp30x the best choice in $750ish range?
The FP-30X is a compelling purchase at this price category. Keep striving!
@@JeremySee :D THANK YOU!!!
Dear Jeremy, according your huge piano experience can you create some statistic data about keys quality
Samples beats modelling in my opinion. I think there’s a special type of warmth and reverb that comes from the wood cabinet of a piano that v-piano or supernatural hasn’t surpassed yet… not to mention piano is a percussion instrument which makes it too complex for any sort of wave theory
Hi Jeremy, Thanks for your several videos, my FP-30X is on his way.
Can you tell me if it is possible , with the "secret" function, to play audio from a computer to the piano speakers through the USB connexion ? (Usage would be : FP-30X MIDI thru USB -> Computer VST -> VST Audio -> FP-30X USB -> FP-30X Speakers)
I believe I did mention that the audio is transmitted and review via USB. Yes. Both ways. 😉
@@JeremySee Thanks, wasn’t sure for the « both ways ».
Do we have option to use External speaker by using 3.5mm Jack in Yamaha P125
Partly based on this review I went to guitar city to purchase the 30x. I was surprised I liked the Yamaha action better. The 30x felt like they overdid the escapement step when pushing keys and it felt clunky. Also liked sound of Yamaha better and there are kids keyboards with less cheap feeling buttons than Roland.
same experience for me when i went to the store just earlier. i like the brighter sound of yamaha. ☺️😄
There was a sound that was bothering me on roland fp 30x , I returned it and ordered the p125 I'm excited and hope it has a nice sound.
I agree. I played both in the shop for about 2 hours. At first I preferred the fp-30x, but eventually liked the p-125's action more. Also preferred the latter's sound more. However, I miss the bluetooth connectivity
My teacher uses a grand piano and if you think a Roland action is clunky you should try a tired 30 year old grand piano. However when you hit staccato chords on it, it staccatos you back.
@@jelomirabcede4851 Such a difficult choice. Do you still like the Yamaha? We had one for years and some sounds on it are unmatched by the others. I have a Roland now and play almost always with headphones. The grand piano sound grows on you until the other brands sound off.
The problem I have with the Roland's acoustic piano sound is the bass is a bit too big, unlike most acoustic pianos, and the treble is a bit too sweet. In terms of hearing the tones in chords and harmonies, that's where Yamaha does well because it isn't a booming bass piano sample yet the lower bass is quite deep and strong but it still offers a clarity in the bass and tenor that is pretty unique in digital pianos (and maybe in acoustic pianos as well). But the Roland is a wonderful digital piano and both Roland and Kawai gives more bang for the buck in the lower to mid digital range than does Yamaha. What Yamaha gives you is its signature Yamaha sound, at least for acoustics, and you know the GHS will last, even if it gets noisy and somewhat rattly as it ages. Time for a new low-end action Yamaha and a bit more features to make it feature-wise more competitive with Roland and Kawai and Casio. Now for the other sounds, they sound fine on both. Just different versions of them. Also I trust Roland's durability and quality control over Kawai (digital only) and think it is on par with Yamaha. One other thing is I don't think Yamaha likes Roland uses (X) at the end of the names of their pianos. That's something Yamaha has uses in their acoustic and digital pianos (CFX, CX, SX) and on the digital side (N1X, NU1X, N3X).
Great insight.
Thanks for making this comment Benjamin. I will check out my piano to see if it is similar. It is an HP603A so it might not have these vices. I'm not sure if it can be changed in the piano designer app. I must also drop the metronome volume.
@@philgray1023 Hi Phil, were you able to look after your own piano? Have you spotted similar issues? Can these problems be overcome in the piano designer application? I would be very happy if you could share your experiences.
Do you see this happening too on FP-30X?
I purchased this piano in the white from Amazon and have had it for about a week now and really trying to like and keep it. Prior to purchasing watched all of the you tube shootout’s reviews, and comparison videos beforehand. In every case the audio quality was pristine and had a clarity and sparkle throughout the entire range of the keyboard. This clarity seems to be absent from my unit with the exception of the top three octaves. It’s hard to describe as I can hear that the quality of the samples are there, they simply lack that pristine audio quality heard in the videos. It’s certain that those pianos in the videos are coming out of the line out outputs and running through some EQ and additional signal processing. Thinking that perhaps it was the acoustics in my room I took the unit out and played it in church today with no improvement in the sonic quality, so I’m thinking of returning it and purchasing the RD 88. I already own the RD2000 so am certainly able to make a comparison but it’s too big to haul back and forth. I got this piano for the portability. Has any other owners experienced what I’m talking about?
Do you happen to be using headphones or the integrated speakers? I plan on getting the FP-30X soon and I'm curious if the speakers are what makes it muddy to you or if you experience the same thing with good headphones.
It's not clear which piano you've bought in white?
As he speaks of the rd 88 which is from Roland I suppose he also means the fp30x.
Hello Jeremy, what is the piece at the start of the video called please? Thanks
Gymnopedie No. 1 by Satie
I bought the P-121 and the CF piano has a very classy unique bright tone which I love v much.
I am planning to buy the same (P-121) do you think 73 keys is not enough? am a newbie so please suggest :)
@@ipavan it could work, but it would be best of it is a 88 key.
Tho a few less keys will not be much of a burden if you are just starting out.
Oh, decisions! There is only only one clear choice;
both. Great show JS, many thanks.
Thank you Carol!
Only keys is important factor for me, sound I use by connection to computer and using VST, so whose keys is better Roland or Yamaha?
I liked the Roland much more when I tried both. Keys felt much better both texture and action wise
Love the review!!!
What song is he playing in the begining? love it
Satie gymnopedie no 1
i would like to ask you if you have ever tested thomann products and specially Thomann SP-5600 ... it is good enough to compare with yamaha & roland brand ?
Korg D1, Roland FP 30x, or Yamaha P125? Seems the D1 gets rave reviews but no one puts it on the best digital piano to buy in 2021. Is the Korg D1 still relevant?
i love roland fp30x keys..feels like playing real accoustic piano..i will consider to buy this piano
Is there a korg liano with hammer action? I like the sound of it a lot
Korg B2 quizá?
The key action is definitely nicer on the Roland, but the onboard controls on the Yamaha are way better, the Smart Pianist app still smokes the Roland app (and yes the Roland app has bluetooth, but the connection drops constantly), the Yamaha rhythms are implemented way better, and they're not the same price, at least in Canada: Roland FP-30x=$1100, Yamaha P125=$850. I had an FP-30 (not the FP-30x) for 6 months and traded it back on a P-125 and I'm way happier
The action on FP models is unrealisticly heavy. Like they have glue attached under the keys. Making It painful to play
Hmm this not true for most, probably got a lemon
If the connection drops it is your equipment. I salvaged my Older Yamaha with a Roland Wm1. Yamaha have always been poor on Midi they are Apple centric and could not be bothered keeping their apps up to date with the latest Midi standards so my $75 Yamaha MDBT is now junk.
@@3xperiment8 many said the key action is what made them buy the Roland. I'm concerned now. Was it that heavy? Have you compared it with an acoustic?
@@3xperiment8 Hi mate, and which key action is the best for you?.
What is the name of the song you perform at 6:25 ? Thanks
Isn't she lovely -Stevie wonder
When it comes to Digital Piano, Yamaha P125 is more natural piano sounds with its using CFX piano... Unlike roland FP30X piano sounds sounds more like robotic
It's a case of psychoacoustics. At these price, you get high quality sampled acoustic pianos. They are all sounds of a real piano, it's just a matter of preference. Just like how many of my students for play on cheap Yamaha U1 upright acoustic pianos don't like the sound of a $250,000 Bosendorfer grand. 😉
P125 uses the CFIIIS sample, not the CFX.
I agree, roland is not so natural as Yamaha sounds.
@@fabriziop8044 since I started to listening to this roland, I had the feeling that it sounds more like a real piano to me. I had two yamaha and thought they sounded great, but once I played keyscape in my DAW, I realized how bad my piano yamaha sounded.
Hi Jeremy! Thanks for the excellent videos you post regularly! One question, do the keys on the Roland make any annoying loud clicking sound when playing? What about the Yamaha?
I have mixed feelings coz I'm not a big fan of UI offloading to companion apps, but sure, a BT connection may make the experience better. Anyway, excellent new product overall, and excellent review!
This is petty. An app could be an accessory but not a requirement. At least they should provide specs and also a PC version.
These App stuffs make these products feel like a disposable items with built-in obsolescence. Tomorrow Apple/Google might block the account and then you'll have no apps and lose functionality just like that.
I got the fp-30x and please could you tell me the name of this song?
The Yamaha P-125 has been superseded by the Yamaha P-225. I recently purchased A Roland FP-30X at an actual store in my community. Both the FP-30X and the P-225 were listed at $699, which is an online price. I would say, these instruments, along with the Casio Privia PX-S1100 represent the top of the entry level price tier. What you want to get depends on what you want to do. My past experience, though limited, was on acoustic piano and acoustic piano emulation was what I wanted.
Once again Jeremy, I just want to say, that I really appreciate your insight into all the keyboards you review...we may not buy every keyboard of course, but we still learn so much about the technology that comes along....thanks again sir for that....God Bless
Thank you for your kind words and appreciating my effort.
Did you add panning to the Roland it was panning ?
Hi Jeremy! Your links for the Roland FP-30X takes you to the FP-10 btw
Hi thanks Jeremy very clear. But I did catch the secret thing you announced early in your video what it is ?
Thanks for watching. You might want to watch it again to get the full explanation. Many here has commented on it so it's pretty clear.
Appreciate your vid! It helps me to choose the right one. What are the songs you played in the video? Do you have sheets of those songs?
Excellent review on these keyboards can you tell me what tune you where playing at the opening. I recognize the melody but for the life of me I can’t remember what band played this.
The Roland speakers are spectacular
I feel like Yamaha has fallen into the same trap that a lot of traditional flagship music brands have. They have begun to live by brand recognition, while other manufacturers are offering better features in a similar price range. Fender and Gibson are falling into that in the guitar world as well.
Do you know what song that is in the beginning
I think Yamaha is mainly lagging behind because it's a lot older. They need to release an updated version.
Roland is expensive compared to yamaha
@@jacksmith7576 bit late but it is Gymnopedie no 1
@@amanshrestha2147 No? Roland FP-30x is merely a few euros more costly than the Yamaha P-125, and according to this video, also have a few features up on it... So I'd definitely say the opposite!
Thank you so much for this versus, did you know if Kawai will update their ES110 series?
Kawai hasn't established communication with me and does not provide me with any information.
@@JeremySee thank you man✨, awesome 👌🏻!
What was the first song he played?
Very well said, straight to the point! You help me to decide which one to get!kudos!
What's the name of the tune you play at the beginning?.....it seems it might be good for beginners because it's slow and laid back.
Finally, a Roland in my price range with good amplification. I can't wait to put my Yamaha PSR-140 back on the shelf. Bet you didn't know any PSR-140's even exist anymore....LOL.
It was purchased for my kids at Christmas time years ago....they never used it. I pulled it out of the box a month ago and decided to learn piano.
I think the Roland will make me look more like a serious professional and a winner even if I play like a bad amateur and a loser...LOL. Looking the part is half the battle. Now where is my tuxedo?
Eric Satie, Gymnopedie number 1.
Are you using a sample for both pianos in the video? They both sound more like chimes than an actual Piano.
Which keyboard should I buy same to CTS 200 or CTk2550 or CTO3550 or another
Great video Jeremy I love your channel! I had gotten my first piano, the Casio cdp-s350 because of your videos, and im thinking of upgrading to the roland FP-60X, mainly for recording purposes. Would you say its a good idea or are other options more viable?
My main concern is tone, being able to customize my sound more, and good recording audio. My cdp does fairly well but after a year and I half I can hear the difference between my keyboard and other higher end pianos so I'm thinking of switching.
Anyways keep up the good work brother!
Watch out for some interesting reviews in the coming weeks. 😉
Have you considered hooking up to your computer and using a virtual piano, since you are only recording? They are supposed to be the best.
@@Zoco101 virtual instruments, at least for great sounding ones, can be pricey and thats for each piano or virtual instrument. I think its better to buy a great piano with extra sounds and I would prolly spend as much or less than buying vst's you know? Also I do enjoy playing out loud and letting the instrument ring throughout the house
I was very convinced with P125 after watching your review and waiting for mine to be delivered ... but now I'm confused!
The date a video is posted forms an integral part of a review.
@@JeremySee correct. Excellent review as always.
@@Mawamo2227 If you don't like "pushing" the keys with your guts instead of playing them, go with the P125. That's my advice. Roland FP keys are too heavy. Heavier than an acoustic piano.
What about Roland's FP-90X?
Where is the video of the explanation of the escapement? its not in the description
In my video, I said I explained in another video. Search, please.
Is it worth buying fp-30x, if i already have fp-30? I am interested only in piano. Is 256 polyphony vastly changes the sound of piano? I am pretty happy with my fp-30, but this release of fp-30x confuses me now. :)
Yes. Buy one now and send me the old fp-30. I'll dispose it for you for FREE!
I should be very surprised if it's worth making this modest upgrade, unless you need the additional connectivity. Wait till you can afford an FP60, or whatever supercedes it.
Which one have more realistic touch while playing with vst?
Plz say the music name that u played on p125
I personally can't wait for a successor to the p121 hopefully with better action, 3 sensors. When do you think we might see that?
73 keys is optimal for me
Yamaha has not established communication with me and I am not privy too this information.
@@JeremySee okay, in my opinion the p125 is in fact we obsolete compared to the FP-30X
@@Elazarko I can't understand why manufacturers don't make more 73-note pianos (and even 61-note pianos) with proper weighted actions. There's some kind of snobbery involved it seems. As I mentioned in another post, touring classical musicians pay to have 88-note weighted pianos reduced to even fewer than 73 notes, so they can get them on aircraft and practise in their hotel rooms. I have a sprung 61-note keyboard for special situations and for effects. I've done gigs where an 88-note piano simply doesn't fit on the stage, so we couldn't use the piano on those gigs.
Excellent video!
One of my main selling points is the onboard speaker quality and how the sound is expressed and fills the room. When I bought the yamaha p45 i was disappointed by how muddy and “muffled” it sounds because of the speaker system and because they pointed downwards (I had a keyboard stand)zNow I am unsure between the P125 or the roland fp30x. When you said the yamaha is more nuanced, what exactly did you mean? Is it more or less muddy sounding than the roland?
Thanks!
The P125 has tweeters which handle higher frequencies and a larger cone for the low frequencies so the speakers are a little more detailed.
Should I wait for upgrading p 125 .?🤔
Anyone know when this will upgrade.?
I think the upgraded one is p515. It’s in the market quite sometime now but it’s way more expensive
Switny film wreszcie ktos pokazal z bliska jak wyglada tekstura klawiszy GHS w Yamaha oraz klawiszy w Roland P-30 z mechanizmem PHA-4. Dzieki!!
I can't imagine anyone having an issue choosing. Roland 🔥❤️
What's the name of the song in the beginning
Satie - Gymnopédie No. 1
Hello, a question:
i am about to buy a yamaha p-125 and i would like to know if there is any key
for fine modulation of the sound frequency, so you can play
at 432 Hz instead of 440 Hz.
Thanks.
Yes you can.
Does Yamaha have the sound of the 125 but with better action ?