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If Blizzard bans people, they will lose at least double that number in subscribers leaving the game forever. They fucked up, its not our fault they didn't fix a thing after 12 years....
I was interested in the mode until I realized it wasn't actually that fast. They marketed this mode as if they were finally going to do some crazy, end of expansion mode where they let people have fun in an overpowered way, and it's hardly different.
It makes no sense that once you have 346 gear every upgrade level after costs the same amount(38k), they could've just made the cost scale all the way up to max.
@@mightysamurai5726why is it bad? Because you would be done faster collecting decade old mogs and mounts in a time limited event? Oh no. How terrible.
I mean, just nerfing the cost of upgrades or massively increasing bronze gains would just completely change everything and make this the fun op experience we were sold
I thnk they were originally supposed to be. otherwise i dont know why they sell them at the vendors. The cloak was also supposed to be for every character, but they yanked that away.
They also need to make the cloak carry more stats across alts, I should be getting the full benefit of the XP gain on a fresh character, I can understand not carrying over main stats as it would trivialize everything and alts would suddenly one shot everything but XP gain? Why is there a cap?
blizz always makes these really cool systems and then go "wait, we don't want it to be TOO good! Let's counterbalance things people love with things that make them hate us!"
There shouldn't even be lockouts. Let people farm, for christ's sake. It's what WoW players love to do. Hell, it's what MMO players in general love doing.
@@Crowald lockouts set reasonable restrictions for self limitation. There are are things I want/need to do and if there is no lockout then I will feel as if I am missing out if I am not farming all day every day without taking any breaks.
They also just recently buffed the bronze aquire rate from flying through orbs. Edit, world bosses and raids are on a daily lockout for rewards including threads
Short of them reducing the price by 75% theres no way, especially when these characters are going to be unlocked when the prepatch starts which will shower you in gear I'm sure
Yeah I'm here to hyper level characters and get mounts that luck never got me. That's it. All the gear and perceived power will be gone in TWW, so I'm not bothered to farm out gear level. As for cosmetics, Eeeh. I'm here for mounts.
the upgrade cost feels like they used an extra digit than they supposed to.. also when I saw that achievements will give now threads but if you already done them.. oh well.. I already did 135/147 thanks blizz, punishing me for playing the game \_0_/
Once you hit lv 70 you should get your main's cloak and also the discount 100% should apply to alts atm you're just locked into your one character, what happened to account wide everything, the cloak was also advertised as fully account wide stats in the trailer for it but that was a lie.
God no. Then at one point you might get useless currencies. Imagine you played during mop, you have many of the sets and many of the mounts. That currency would be almost utterly useless. All Blizz has to do is slightly decrease the bronze cost of the middle ilvl after 446 and slash the costs in half for the early upgrades after 446.
Yep, and Blizzard's not going to do anything about the gap either. They'll give those of us who missed out on it tiny breadcrumb morsels that make no meaningful or impactful change just to say they're doing something. I didn't care about people doing the frog farm, I care that they took it away after the damage was already done, essentially creating two classes of players and putting an impassible wall between them. If they had no intentions of a rollback, they should have just left it as is so we all had a level playing field. This whole game mode was meant to be fun, that's it (and it was even advertised about you being OP) not some new end game content grind, I mean we're grinding decade+ old content ffs lol.
@@DarkonDraco I'm not currently playing this event but somehow it doesn't surprise me that there's a completely impassable barrier between "People who did X" and "People who didn't" in a piece of additional content supposedly based around having fun. Elitism is for retards. Left alone, Warcraft players will optimize the fun out of everything. If Blizzard want new players to onboard to the event at any point between now and when it ends, they have to do the rollback, plain and simple. Otherwise, I'll keep my sub money and just resubscribe to XIV instead of wasting my time. Getting bashed and rejected from groups because I was late to the party and don't have 12 million fucking HP/100k main stat doesn't sound fun, it sounds like an absurdist metaphor for Classic.
Blizzard 😂 has already said they have a new code that found all the frog farmers and will do “ what needs to be done “ ❤ RIP frog farmers and the mentally disabled amount of time you spent getting there 😂😂😂😂😂
Just make the Cloak Accountwide. I dont know why it isnt. Farming all the Threads without any "Exploit-Options" are just insane. My Warlock has 1,800k Life and thats low af. Today i say a Demonhunter DD with 8000k HP, he deald 900k DPS and carried the whole Normal Raid. How do you catch up with that for a Alt?
It’s ok they have a new code in the works that sniffs out people that exploited the frogs and have roll back measures in place 😂 that’s over 13 hours of farming to get removed 😂
Why not make bronze account wide? This is what blizzards new philosophy is going forward with rep, why not currency in an event that’s suppose to be fun and over powered.
How would that help though? You're still getting bronze at the same rate. Since all your characters can buy anything anyway, account wide currency doesn't matter
Not retroactively giving people the achievement spools just feels majorly bad, I've done tons of rather great threads as a reward I simply can't get now on my main
I would love for them to do an event like this for Legion. I was mega late to the WoW train, so I missed Legion when it was current, but what I have played of it has been phenominal (that DK class hall questline was amazing). I think it is a healthy way to reuse past expansions.
@@teej143That they try to juice it up by making it artificially slow, rather than make it fun enough for people to keep wanting to play it. "So? They are a business." -> "So? We are humans with limited time."
I'm sorry, as a casual player I don't want to have to do dungeons and raids ad nauseum. I like playing the game for what it is, not just dungeons and raids, but everything that powers up the cloak seems to involve them. My time isn't limitless and running through them still impact my play time.
People nowadays are so used to rushing/minmaxing everything. They try to skip on every single drop of content they are offered. Just wanna get them quick dopamine hits and be done with it.
@@DR-fc1ey i mean to be honest, you know the euhm shado pan dungeon, the explodey adds, i got hit for like 90% of my hp with one of them at like 68 and in the jade temple dungeon the boss the sun version, he shot an arrow at me for 70% of my hp, also i'm actively doing less and less damage the higher level i get, marginally so its still not fixed
@@DR-fc1ey look i dont care about gearing the character, it wont matter in a couple of months anyway im just using this to level alts, so is he, and thank fuck cause "end game" is just not fun
I have played since release, out of all the expansions, this has had me engaged the most and quite frankly felt some what fun with progression. It seems a lot of people are also more relaxed and are having fun instead of talkin shit and being salty.
I love this event so much, it would be nice to get crazy OP, but I love it precisely for the casual vibes, I simply can’t be forced to GIGA farm. I think Blizz will be smart to nerf upgrade costs, anyone who’s upset needs to realize this is all temporary anyways…
Yeah I think its amazing! I did not play mop so its new and fresh. And I can get some mounts that have not dropped in 10 years for me. So im going all in on all fun quests, farm bronze and get moore mounts. Then I will go for transmogs. I also heard rumors that when the events is almost over. They will change the bronze so you get even moore.
Why are people doing gear upgrades when the gear will be lost in a couple months? I mean I guess why, but at the current prices it just seems like the cost to benefit ratio is just untenable.
As long as I can get enough bronze by the end of the event to get the rewards I want without having to no-life the game, I don't really care if other people are more powerful than me. Just like how I lose all motivation to get gear in the second half (or event second season) of an expansion because it'll all be made irrelevant so soon, I don't see the point in spending bronze on MoP Remix upgrades when I could spend that bronze on other things that are actually permanent. But will I be able to get enough bronze? I don't know. Similarly, I don't really see the point in rushing to get bronze or threads when these systems and drop rates will probably increase anyway. I spent two weeks playing Plunderstorm every day to grind out the renown, and then on my last day of the grind they doubled the renown rate. So if I would've just waited I could've spent less time on the grind. I'll be taking that lesson with me into MoP Remix.
If my main characters +Exp on my cloak doesnt transfer to my alts then it should do something for my main. Right now at max level, Im still getting +Exp threads, WHY? It should boost bronze gain something.
Why doesnt the 'xp gain' stat turn into 'bronze gain' once you reach level 70?? Who gives a shit about upgrading gear when you dont have enough bronze to buy all the cosmetics.
Increase to rare loot.... that's laughable as I have not received A SINGLE THING from any of the about 30+ rares I've killed. Got like a good 20+ bronze off of each one...... again laughable.
If you want to see what MICROSOFT has ready for WoW look at the MoP Remix, leveling in a DAY, quests that are nothing but HAND OUTS and CONSOLE ACTION gaming....
Unpopular opinion: keep your bronze until blizz decides to lower the price for upgrades. You can easily farm over 10k bronze by doing all lfr raids because froggers are everyhwere and they end a raid in like 10 minutes or less. After blizz lowers the upgrade price, lvl up your armor and wep to max so you can start going through mythics like a knife through butter. Afterwards, let the bronze flow. Tip: do raids now as much as you can while the froggers 🐸 are around because it will come a time when they've collected everything and switch to dragonflight. Good luck!
Tried counting up the MoP remix reward costs on the PTR (grain of salt I am not good at math). To purchase everything you would need roughly 1,509,350 bronze. Blizzard should apologize to the people who are left behind now blizzard was certainly aware of the possibility of the exploit. It was told to them by the people who played the Panda Mix beta but they flat out ignored it and people are rightly angry about it and it is blizzard their own mistake that should have been fixed before pandra remix was released and that they need to make things right by kicking back the people to square one who abused the exploit, that's just fair and square
I'm not alone in this thought: Rollback the hyperspawn farmers. If it's too good to be true, it likely is. If they noticed they were dropping charms, TOO MANY, they basically said 'let's do this before it's nerfed', which does signal maliciousness because they did something knowingly, even advertised in lfg. Roll them back. It's a fun game mode, and most of those people are mythic raiders in retail anyway that have everything they'll ever need in game anyway. I think they need to be brought down a peg, seriously. Hate on me for this opinion all you want - paint yourself as someone that benefitted from something that wasn't tweaked before and didn't have the willpower to stop while you were ahead.
I don't agree with you on much, but this, 100%. The bronze costs for upgrading makes the game inaccessible for those who don't play 24/7. Also the tuning in the last half of Throne of Thunder is ridiculous and very difficult to communicate tactics in pug groups, which is how everyone is raiding.
Unless there's more of a 25% buff in brone acquisition.... I'm not paying any bronze towards any kind of gear since this event is just a side play to just level alts. It sucks since I wanna get some kills on garrosh but the bronze needed is so much more. Like 5x the amount of a WB mount. Hope they buff the bronze more.
I noticed no issue till about 65. Not sure what people were crying about. But at 65 + they were for sure stronger, but not so much you couldn't handle multiple at a time. Also hell yes to the LK, Legion Remix's. I'd also love for a TBC remix.
I hope they implement some sort of bronze buff soon. It feels impossible to get everything without crane farming for hours each day, which isnt what i signed up for. Would also like to see a Rep box being added if you already have exalted (can't remember what its called on retail). Legion Remix would be awesome!
The permanent cosmetics need to be on a separate currency from temporary power. On top of that, hyper inflate threads until the frog farmers have no meaningful advantage.
they honestly don't need to do anything with bronze, if they cut gear upgrades by 90%-95%. i can get 4-8 cosmetics a day, if gear had nothing to do with it. but hey bliz has always had a weird kink for pacing and dragging out gear for their players( im not kink shaming here, just think its weird)
To be upset that someone got to do the frog farm (or any of the others farms) before the nerfs and are now overpowered is ridiculous. It's PvE so any upset/jelousness is pure ego. If it was PvP, sure, the op advantage sucks if you're getting squashed. But in PvE, people are just butthurt because their fragile ego got hurt upon seeing someome else with bigger numbers, a higher rank in the dmg meter, & cosmetics we'll all likely get sooner or later if we please 😂
"Made by a very small team" You mean like the eagles flying/clipping through ground or the legion tower up in the kun'lai mountains with Pandarens clipping into it while practicing against their target dummies?! Ya... Definitely a small team :P
i feel I've been scammed out of a lot of threads now after doing every quest in every zone and all zone achievements and heroic / Normal Raid Achievements + all Reputations to exalted minus the Isle of thunder one before all of this got changed and not getting anything outside from mount and cosmetics guess it dont pay to be fast in "story" progressing and slow to hyper spawn killing :/
Lol try a stamina gem? Did your editor/writer not play this mode? You can get stamina on gems by upgrading gems to legendary! Ironic that as soon as the video goes up they announce a 5x bronze for daily content, they are trying stuff like you said. Just not ready at launch sucks!
The stats are pretty much capped after 50% in diminishing anyways right?. So threads pretty much max your toon before gear upgrades anyways?. Or am i wrong?.
How are they going to nerf frog farmers? I’m glad they had the hours to get ahead but it’s sorta ridiculous that a guardian druid was doing 3Million DPS single target and had 18Mil hp in my lfr and it’s only been 7 days into Remix
idc what people say about this but ill always say NERF bronze prices since farms are no longer a thing cus blizz will just nerf it within 24 hours either give us rewards of 10,000 bronze for dailys THE VERY LEAST or nerf the item level upgrade prices.
Don't see this being mentioned as much, so just throwing it out there. I never did pandaria content in retail so I'm missing a lot of achievements including loremaster achievements. I was excited to dive into this event so that I could go farm out all of those things. I got to level 70 assuming that that would make the quest grind even easier, but in reality once I hit 70 I felt like I was slapping things with a wet noodle. Right now it feels like we're being encouraged to roll alts because of the late game scaling, and thigh cost of upgrades, but at the same time one of the core mechanics means that are also level very fast, and I will inevitably end up in the same boat with them. It feels like I am being forced to play the game in a weird style where I only progress to certain points and then reroll. The opening quest in the pandaria story are pretty annoying to repeat as well, namely looking at the early horde versus alliance quests, but especially the small troop storyteller quest. It's a big hindrance in the energy that the remix event otherwise brings the table.
Couldn't upgrades use regular gold? I play very casually and don't spam dungeons and raids so I barely get enough copper hence why I didn't even upgrade once yet, but I'm sitting on a lot of gold, after buying all bank spaces too
I’m only doing pandaria to finally get loremaster done, mounts and maybe some transmog I don’t really care about anything else. I wasn’t even going to play at all but leveling up has been really fun with all the fire gems my Paladin has been amazingly fun I’m going to hate going back to regular play without them.
Blizzard hates the fun folks found in their fun fomo mode. The advertised xp gain isnt that different from normal with heirlooms. After hitting 70 and doing some quick math, I noped out of doing an alt or an upgrade farm.
Make bronze an account bound currency, and make it for every 70 time runner gives a bonus100% bronze... why do we need exp bonus for alts if no one is going to level alts lol
All of this is pointless, the progress of the gear will go away in 90 days. Who the hell wants to sit and farm frogs? Are you serious? The wow community is beyond degenerate nowadays, holy sh*t.
as soon as i learned from the frog farm i immediately went to abuse it, because I know it wasn't intentionally meant to be like this and it was going to be removed. I also knew it was not forbidden or a bug and I also knew it was the fastest way to get the rewards. And it came out as predicted. Classic blizzard behavior releasing unfinished stuff and trying to clean the mess when the damage is done. If they would be fair, they would just leave it in now that they fucked up.
the bronze cost to upgrade vs bronze drop rates do not line up. It's a horrible grind, and by the time we can upgrade all our gear to max, the event won't even matter. Right now, it's just not even worth it to play past 70 unless you are a frog farmer.
There are all theese sweat lords who farm mega cloak and what ever.. And then there is me with my cup of coffe just chilling and farming out bronze to buy all those juicy cosmetics, toys and mounts that i never had the time to farm back in the day.
The Frogger cheaters have ruined this event badly. Every time something fun is created in Wow or another MMO you get those players that only play to find exploits or any kind of cheat. Now these assholes are in control of who gets in the raids at the end level. I freaking hate these people. They ruined this event. They need to be exposed and punished. This is not right for the rest of us.
I see them nerfing the bronze cost on upgrades without giving people who already upgraded their bronze back. This would be in line with the achievement chests people didnt get retrospectively.
As a collector, there is no way I will spend one bronze on upgrading gear at these costs.. They could drop the cost by 90% to make it doable for the masses and keep their promise for this to be a broken overpowered event with the ability to level alts for use in the retail game.
yeah its time to remove the XP buff at max level and switch it to a bronze buff.. also mobs should drop minimum 25 bronze this 1-5 drop is out of control
the scaling is still terrible for me, i was doing a solo scenario and i (68 brewmaster) was doing about 11k damage per second. the three bosses had 5million, 15 million and 9 million health. now go calculate how long it took me to finish that one scenario
ps gem sending per mail, would be great...improves faction points on shaoshao ...these are topics , where you could give out a personal note ,or some sort of community hate :P
I don't care at all about buffing my gear, I just want an actual good source of bronze so that I can buy the cosmetics since that's basically the whole point of the event...
Honestly they should just nerf upgrade costs. There's zero chance I'm going to spend the bronze to upgrade and forego getting the cosmetics that were the whole point to me being here.
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If Blizzard bans people, they will lose at least double that number in subscribers leaving the game forever. They fucked up, its not our fault they didn't fix a thing after 12 years....
I only have 346 gear and I could not care less about the gear/stat boosts… I just want a serious increase in Bronze rate for the cosmetics.
Exactly same for me. Collect bronze, get mounts, cosmetics, thats it. Nothing else needed, or worth to grind.
Agreed. It might be worth going for higher gear if the cloak actually carried directly over to alts.
Exactly! I'm not gonna upgrade anything when I get to max level unless it's super cheap! I just want the mounts, toys and cosmetics.
Lvl up cloak and gear, farm mythic and heroic and there's your serious increase in Bronze, you're welcome
Agreed
A nerf on the upgrade cost would be awesome. Like 75-80%.
I was interested in the mode until I realized it wasn't actually that fast. They marketed this mode as if they were finally going to do some crazy, end of expansion mode where they let people have fun in an overpowered way, and it's hardly different.
@Paul-zh2jp true but I would say your second soon is much faster.
It makes no sense that once you have 346 gear every upgrade level after costs the same amount(38k), they could've just made the cost scale all the way up to max.
Right, do you want to pick up the mounts/mogs or do you want to upgrade your gear.
Or they could add a 0 to every source of bronze so both upgrades and collectibles are easier to obtain.
At level 70, % experience gain stat on cloak should change to % bonus to bronze.
Agreed. Seen this a lot and it's a wonderful idea.
thats a bad idea. Cause my Warrior lv70 have ca. 250% Exp gain and my lv70 Boomie has 500+% Xd
@@mightysamurai5726why is it bad? Because you would be done faster collecting decade old mogs and mounts in a time limited event?
Oh no. How terrible.
@@Shinanesu I see nothing wrong with that at all. Let us collect everything, let the players be happy.
@@mightysamurai5726you can continue to get a higher % on it and they could leave it like that as well
The +Exp% on cloak should turn into +Bronze% at Lv 70.
Best (dare I say only) idea in the comments so far
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Nice. I like this.
I mean, just nerfing the cost of upgrades or massively increasing bronze gains would just completely change everything and make this the fun op experience we were sold
You are not allowed to have fun in a Blizzard game.
This should be pretty clear now, considering how thay have acted so far.
@@dss-homemadestuff8580 well I for one am having fun, just not in an op experience.
Account unlock for rings/trinkets/neck would be huge. It is a slog going through that. Not alt-friendly right now.
I thnk they were originally supposed to be. otherwise i dont know why they sell them at the vendors. The cloak was also supposed to be for every character, but they yanked that away.
They are now, I noticed this randomly on an alt. You can now buy the rings and trunks and neck.
They also need to make the cloak carry more stats across alts, I should be getting the full benefit of the XP gain on a fresh character, I can understand not carrying over main stats as it would trivialize everything and alts would suddenly one shot everything but XP gain? Why is there a cap?
Yes
blizz always makes these really cool systems and then go "wait, we don't want it to be TOO good! Let's counterbalance things people love with things that make them hate us!"
To keep us paying the sub fee
Agreed! XP gain threads on my 70 feels so incredibly pointless when my alt will never pass 100% XP bonus at start
The cap is there so you don't just say 'okay, fuck this character'. Basically that.
thank god, I have a video to watch while I eat lunch
Hi Corey!
Lmao i was just thinking about that too!
@@coreyoz great name B)
Are you me?
Even better, something to watch while pooping on company time
World bosses are daily btw, not weekly. Easiest source imo. Go to the area, join a group, go next.
Yep! I confirmed this yesterday, even though they show being weekly in the raid lockouts UI they reset each day.
There shouldn't even be lockouts. Let people farm, for christ's sake. It's what WoW players love to do. Hell, it's what MMO players in general love doing.
doing this on my level 10 lol, see how far i can push it
@@Crowald lockouts set reasonable restrictions for self limitation. There are are things I want/need to do and if there is no lockout then I will feel as if I am missing out if I am not farming all day every day without taking any breaks.
Imo it would help if the gear that dropped for you at 70 had a chance to be a higher ilvl than pieces you have equipped, instead of being 346 forever
They also just recently buffed the bronze aquire rate from flying through orbs. Edit, world bosses and raids are on a daily lockout for rewards including threads
Gear upgrades are great and all.. but mounts are forever!
I am not gonna buy upgrades for my character when the same price gets me a mount or an armor set lol 300 bronze per upgrade at most
Same!
Short of them reducing the price by 75% theres no way, especially when these characters are going to be unlocked when the prepatch starts which will shower you in gear I'm sure
Same here. Not spending bronze on gear at all. Saving for the mogs I want and when I get them all, I'm done.
Yeah I'm here to hyper level characters and get mounts that luck never got me. That's it. All the gear and perceived power will be gone in TWW, so I'm not bothered to farm out gear level. As for cosmetics, Eeeh. I'm here for mounts.
Wow also needs to make the timerunner rings, necks, and trinkets account bound
the upgrade cost feels like they used an extra digit than they supposed to.. also when I saw that achievements will give now threads but if you already done them.. oh well.. I already did 135/147 thanks blizz, punishing me for playing the game \_0_/
Once you hit lv 70 you should get your main's cloak and also the discount 100% should apply to alts atm you're just locked into your one character, what happened to account wide everything, the cloak was also advertised as fully account wide stats in the trailer for it but that was a lie.
I think they could have just done two currencies. One for power and one for cosmetics.
This is precisely what they should have done. Upgrades could have cost normal gold rewarded for every quest an humanoid kill.
Not disagreeing with you, but also, as of late there's been *too* many f'ing currencies in WoW.
God no. Then at one point you might get useless currencies. Imagine you played during mop, you have many of the sets and many of the mounts. That currency would be almost utterly useless. All Blizz has to do is slightly decrease the bronze cost of the middle ilvl after 446 and slash the costs in half for the early upgrades after 446.
frog farmers are literally months ahead of normal players.
Yep, and Blizzard's not going to do anything about the gap either. They'll give those of us who missed out on it tiny breadcrumb morsels that make no meaningful or impactful change just to say they're doing something. I didn't care about people doing the frog farm, I care that they took it away after the damage was already done, essentially creating two classes of players and putting an impassible wall between them. If they had no intentions of a rollback, they should have just left it as is so we all had a level playing field. This whole game mode was meant to be fun, that's it (and it was even advertised about you being OP) not some new end game content grind, I mean we're grinding decade+ old content ffs lol.
@@DarkonDraco I'm not currently playing this event but somehow it doesn't surprise me that there's a completely impassable barrier between "People who did X" and "People who didn't" in a piece of additional content supposedly based around having fun. Elitism is for retards.
Left alone, Warcraft players will optimize the fun out of everything. If Blizzard want new players to onboard to the event at any point between now and when it ends, they have to do the rollback, plain and simple. Otherwise, I'll keep my sub money and just resubscribe to XIV instead of wasting my time. Getting bashed and rejected from groups because I was late to the party and don't have 12 million fucking HP/100k main stat doesn't sound fun, it sounds like an absurdist metaphor for Classic.
Blizzard 😂 has already said they have a new code that found all the frog farmers and will do “ what needs to be done “ ❤ RIP frog farmers and the mentally disabled amount of time you spent getting there 😂😂😂😂😂
@@zometthecomet the only thing there is in the code is a tag named "is frog farmer" that doesn't really say much. That's far from identifying them.
@@AlgoConJuan Ohh boy 🤣
Just make the Cloak Accountwide. I dont know why it isnt. Farming all the Threads without any "Exploit-Options" are just insane. My Warlock has 1,800k Life and thats low af. Today i say a Demonhunter DD with 8000k HP, he deald 900k DPS and carried the whole Normal Raid.
How do you catch up with that for a Alt?
Don’t worry blizzard has a code that will catch out all the people like that and roll them back
@@zometthecomet Banning them from the rest of the event would be better.
"I don't know what they're feeding their devs."
Captain crunch cereal. XD
The roofs of their mouths be like "our bond is iron".
They need to double or triple bronze aquisition
Just got back into WOW, i missed the Frogs twice, sadge!
Missing out on an exploit is no real loss.
Please dont be like those people, you arent missing out on anything. Play the game, enjoy the game.
@@sardonicspartan9343literally not an exploit… braindead take
"Slow down, take it easy."
It’s ok they have a new code in the works that sniffs out people that exploited the frogs and have roll back measures in place 😂 that’s over 13 hours of farming to get removed 😂
Why not make bronze account wide? This is what blizzards new philosophy is going forward with rep, why not currency in an event that’s suppose to be fun and over powered.
How would that help though? You're still getting bronze at the same rate. Since all your characters can buy anything anyway, account wide currency doesn't matter
Just give all the mounts and mogs to everyone at the end of the event…
MAYBE people would be happy then
Not retroactively giving people the achievement spools just feels majorly bad, I've done tons of rather great threads as a reward I simply can't get now on my main
It's not a moral issue. Thought it would be NICE if they did.
@@sardonicspartan9343 how does 'feels bad' apply to morality?
Just blizzard popping on us for paying our subscription.
The Spools can also Crit! It knocks your character over, has a special sound effect and gives you double. Having it hit for 360 is great!
I would love for them to do an event like this for Legion. I was mega late to the WoW train, so I missed Legion when it was current, but what I have played of it has been phenominal (that DK class hall questline was amazing). I think it is a healthy way to reuse past expansions.
It’s absolutely them trying to juice play time
So?
@@sardonicspartan9343 seeing you white-knight blizz on every comment in this post is so fucking cringe bro.. yikes.
If I need to ELI5 that to you why that’s bad then there’s no helping you mate
that's exactly what is it. it's a business. what's your point?
@@teej143That they try to juice it up by making it artificially slow, rather than make it fun enough for people to keep wanting to play it.
"So? They are a business." -> "So? We are humans with limited time."
I'm sorry, as a casual player I don't want to have to do dungeons and raids ad nauseum. I like playing the game for what it is, not just dungeons and raids, but everything that powers up the cloak seems to involve them. My time isn't limitless and running through them still impact my play time.
People nowadays are so used to rushing/minmaxing everything. They try to skip on every single drop of content they are offered. Just wanna get them quick dopamine hits and be done with it.
If we learned anything from Plunderstorm, just wait for the last month and everything will be buffed.
Imagine the devs faces when they realize we don’t want to play this like SoD 😂 We just want to farm transmogs
It’s an absolute exploit lol
just another Blizzard grind fest. Love the MOP content....but after max levelling a character the whole thing falls off the cliff of fun.
I stopped playing it. Not as fast, fun or bombastic as I thought. Turned into another boring grind.
best action to take is by giving non frog max level players some extra stuff in the mail XD
if this is already active, my mate yesterday still got oneshot by a random mob in a normal dungeon, so idk if its very well fixed yet
It still happening and it's even happening in LFR
Maybe he just sucks dude lmao
@@DR-fc1ey i mean to be honest, you know the euhm shado pan dungeon, the explodey adds, i got hit for like 90% of my hp with one of them at like 68 and in the jade temple dungeon the boss the sun version, he shot an arrow at me for 70% of my hp, also i'm actively doing less and less damage the higher level i get, marginally so its still not fixed
@@DR-fc1ey look i dont care about gearing the character, it wont matter in a couple of months anyway im just using this to level alts, so is he, and thank fuck cause "end game" is just not fun
Add a new thread, increase bronze gained by x%
All i care about is getting the heavenly onyx serpent... everything else can go burn.
I think I will skip out on this. I only care about the cosmetics.
Upgrading gear is useless, far better to just get on a new toon and gather bronze that way.
The Spools from LFR are not weekly tho, neither the world bosses
I have played since release, out of all the expansions, this has had me engaged the most and quite frankly felt some what fun with progression. It seems a lot of people are also more relaxed and are having fun instead of talkin shit and being salty.
I love this event so much, it would be nice to get crazy OP, but I love it precisely for the casual vibes, I simply can’t be forced to GIGA farm. I think Blizz will be smart to nerf upgrade costs, anyone who’s upset needs to realize this is all temporary anyways…
Yeah I think its amazing! I did not play mop so its new and fresh. And I can get some mounts that have not dropped in 10 years for me. So im going all in on all fun quests, farm bronze and get moore mounts. Then I will go for transmogs. I also heard rumors that when the events is almost over. They will change the bronze so you get even moore.
Why are people doing gear upgrades when the gear will be lost in a couple months? I mean I guess why, but at the current prices it just seems like the cost to benefit ratio is just untenable.
item level transfers over to dragonflight
This game should be free to play
They need to restore how the cloak worked on PTR.
As long as I can get enough bronze by the end of the event to get the rewards I want without having to no-life the game, I don't really care if other people are more powerful than me. Just like how I lose all motivation to get gear in the second half (or event second season) of an expansion because it'll all be made irrelevant so soon, I don't see the point in spending bronze on MoP Remix upgrades when I could spend that bronze on other things that are actually permanent. But will I be able to get enough bronze? I don't know.
Similarly, I don't really see the point in rushing to get bronze or threads when these systems and drop rates will probably increase anyway. I spent two weeks playing Plunderstorm every day to grind out the renown, and then on my last day of the grind they doubled the renown rate. So if I would've just waited I could've spent less time on the grind. I'll be taking that lesson with me into MoP Remix.
If my main characters +Exp on my cloak doesnt transfer to my alts then it should do something for my main. Right now at max level, Im still getting +Exp threads, WHY? It should boost bronze gain something.
Why doesnt the 'xp gain' stat turn into 'bronze gain' once you reach level 70?? Who gives a shit about upgrading gear when you dont have enough bronze to buy all the cosmetics.
froggers should have their characters locked until the end of mop remix, force them to roll a new one and play like the rest of us
Increase to rare loot.... that's laughable as I have not received A SINGLE THING from any of the about 30+ rares I've killed. Got like a good 20+ bronze off of each one...... again laughable.
If you want to see what MICROSOFT has ready for WoW look at the MoP Remix, leveling in a DAY, quests that are nothing but HAND OUTS and CONSOLE ACTION gaming....
Unpopular opinion: keep your bronze until blizz decides to lower the price for upgrades.
You can easily farm over 10k bronze by doing all lfr raids because froggers are everyhwere and they end a raid in like 10 minutes or less.
After blizz lowers the upgrade price, lvl up your armor and wep to max so you can start going through mythics like a knife through butter.
Afterwards, let the bronze flow.
Tip: do raids now as much as you can while the froggers 🐸 are around because it will come a time when they've collected everything and switch to dragonflight.
Good luck!
Tried counting up the MoP remix reward costs on the PTR (grain of salt I am not good at math). To purchase everything you would need roughly 1,509,350 bronze. Blizzard should apologize to the people who are left behind now blizzard was certainly aware of the possibility of the exploit. It was told to them by the people who played the Panda Mix beta but they flat out ignored it and people are rightly angry about it and it is blizzard their own mistake that should have been fixed before pandra remix was released and that they need to make things right by kicking back the people to square one who abused the exploit, that's just fair and square
I'm not alone in this thought: Rollback the hyperspawn farmers. If it's too good to be true, it likely is. If they noticed they were dropping charms, TOO MANY, they basically said 'let's do this before it's nerfed', which does signal maliciousness because they did something knowingly, even advertised in lfg. Roll them back. It's a fun game mode, and most of those people are mythic raiders in retail anyway that have everything they'll ever need in game anyway. I think they need to be brought down a peg, seriously. Hate on me for this opinion all you want - paint yourself as someone that benefitted from something that wasn't tweaked before and didn't have the willpower to stop while you were ahead.
I don't agree with you on much, but this, 100%. The bronze costs for upgrading makes the game inaccessible for those who don't play 24/7. Also the tuning in the last half of Throne of Thunder is ridiculous and very difficult to communicate tactics in pug groups, which is how everyone is raiding.
Unless there's more of a 25% buff in brone acquisition.... I'm not paying any bronze towards any kind of gear since this event is just a side play to just level alts. It sucks since I wanna get some kills on garrosh but the bronze needed is so much more. Like 5x the amount of a WB mount.
Hope they buff the bronze more.
I can't even get the necklace. No one will invite you to normal raids withought obcene power.
I noticed no issue till about 65. Not sure what people were crying about. But at 65 + they were for sure stronger, but not so much you couldn't handle multiple at a time. Also hell yes to the LK, Legion Remix's. I'd also love for a TBC remix.
I hope they implement some sort of bronze buff soon. It feels impossible to get everything without crane farming for hours each day, which isnt what i signed up for. Would also like to see a Rep box being added if you already have exalted (can't remember what its called on retail). Legion Remix would be awesome!
Anyone know if spamming holy nova works for everything? Lol
The permanent cosmetics need to be on a separate currency from temporary power. On top of that, hyper inflate threads until the frog farmers have no meaningful advantage.
they honestly don't need to do anything with bronze, if they cut gear upgrades by 90%-95%. i can get 4-8 cosmetics a day, if gear had nothing to do with it. but hey bliz has always had a weird kink for pacing and dragging out gear for their players( im not kink shaming here, just think its weird)
To be upset that someone got to do the frog farm (or any of the others farms) before the nerfs and are now overpowered is ridiculous. It's PvE so any upset/jelousness is pure ego. If it was PvP, sure, the op advantage sucks if you're getting squashed. But in PvE, people are just butthurt because their fragile ego got hurt upon seeing someome else with bigger numbers, a higher rank in the dmg meter, & cosmetics we'll all likely get sooner or later if we please 😂
"Made by a very small team"
You mean like the eagles flying/clipping through ground or the legion tower up in the kun'lai mountains with Pandarens clipping into it while practicing against their target dummies?! Ya... Definitely a small team :P
i feel I've been scammed out of a lot of threads now after doing every quest in every zone and all zone achievements and heroic / Normal Raid Achievements + all Reputations to exalted minus the Isle of thunder one before all of this got changed and not getting anything outside from mount and cosmetics
guess it dont pay to be fast in "story" progressing and slow to hyper spawn killing :/
Lol try a stamina gem? Did your editor/writer not play this mode? You can get stamina on gems by upgrading gems to legendary!
Ironic that as soon as the video goes up they announce a 5x bronze for daily content, they are trying stuff like you said. Just not ready at launch sucks!
The stats are pretty much capped after 50% in diminishing anyways right?. So threads pretty much max your toon before gear upgrades anyways?. Or am i wrong?.
How are they going to nerf frog farmers? I’m glad they had the hours to get ahead but it’s sorta ridiculous that a guardian druid was doing 3Million DPS single target and had 18Mil hp in my lfr and it’s only been 7 days into Remix
idc what people say about this but ill always say NERF bronze prices since farms are no longer a thing cus blizz will just nerf it within 24 hours either give us rewards of 10,000 bronze for dailys THE VERY LEAST or nerf the item level upgrade prices.
Don't see this being mentioned as much, so just throwing it out there. I never did pandaria content in retail so I'm missing a lot of achievements including loremaster achievements. I was excited to dive into this event so that I could go farm out all of those things. I got to level 70 assuming that that would make the quest grind even easier, but in reality once I hit 70 I felt like I was slapping things with a wet noodle.
Right now it feels like we're being encouraged to roll alts because of the late game scaling, and thigh cost of upgrades, but at the same time one of the core mechanics means that are also level very fast, and I will inevitably end up in the same boat with them. It feels like I am being forced to play the game in a weird style where I only progress to certain points and then reroll. The opening quest in the pandaria story are pretty annoying to repeat as well, namely looking at the early horde versus alliance quests, but especially the small troop storyteller quest. It's a big hindrance in the energy that the remix event otherwise brings the table.
why are you all streamers keep saying that rewards from LFR and world bosses are weeky....they are not....are you guys even playing????
I start remix to farm the Tusk of Mannoroth. I simply need 20 bones. But I‘ve no idea to do this. I‘ve no chance to got accepted in a Raid PuG.
Couldn't upgrades use regular gold? I play very casually and don't spam dungeons and raids so I barely get enough copper hence why I didn't even upgrade once yet, but I'm sitting on a lot of gold, after buying all bank spaces too
what improvement to scaling? lol when you hit 65-70 things hit you for like 520k and by that time you are no where near having that much health >.
I’m only doing pandaria to finally get loremaster done, mounts and maybe some transmog I don’t really care about anything else. I wasn’t even going to play at all but leveling up has been really fun with all the fire gems my Paladin has been amazingly fun I’m going to hate going back to regular play without them.
Blizzard hates the fun folks found in their fun fomo mode. The advertised xp gain isnt that different from normal with heirlooms. After hitting 70 and doing some quick math, I noped out of doing an alt or an upgrade farm.
Make bronze an account bound currency, and make it for every 70 time runner gives a bonus100% bronze... why do we need exp bonus for alts if no one is going to level alts lol
All of this is pointless, the progress of the gear will go away in 90 days. Who the hell wants to sit and farm frogs? Are you serious? The wow community is beyond degenerate nowadays, holy sh*t.
as soon as i learned from the frog farm i immediately went to abuse it, because I know it wasn't intentionally meant to be like this and it was going to be removed. I also knew it was not forbidden or a bug and I also knew it was the fastest way to get the rewards. And it came out as predicted. Classic blizzard behavior releasing unfinished stuff and trying to clean the mess when the damage is done. If they would be fair, they would just leave it in now that they fucked up.
the bronze cost to upgrade vs bronze drop rates do not line up. It's a horrible grind, and by the time we can upgrade all our gear to max, the event won't even matter.
Right now, it's just not even worth it to play past 70 unless you are a frog farmer.
Think they will do something about reputation gains for some folk xD? they a bit rough especially with the quartermasters gone..
At level 35-50, I could do scenarios just fine... Now, at level 70, I get killed by anything in there.
There are all theese sweat lords who farm mega cloak and what ever.. And then there is me with my cup of coffe just chilling and farming out bronze to buy all those juicy cosmetics, toys and mounts that i never had the time to farm back in the day.
The Frogger cheaters have ruined this event badly. Every time something fun is created in Wow or another MMO you get those players that only play to find exploits or any kind of cheat. Now these assholes are in control of who gets in the raids at the end level. I freaking hate these people. They ruined this event. They need to be exposed and punished. This is not right for the rest of us.
I love this event and it had so much potential but a lot of things left a bad taste in my mouth...
I see them nerfing the bronze cost on upgrades without giving people who already upgraded their bronze back. This would be in line with the achievement chests people didnt get retrospectively.
As a collector, there is no way I will spend one bronze on upgrading gear at these costs.. They could drop the cost by 90% to make it doable for the masses and keep their promise for this to be a broken overpowered event with the ability to level alts for use in the retail game.
yeah its time to remove the XP buff at max level and switch it to a bronze buff.. also mobs should drop minimum 25 bronze this 1-5 drop is out of control
All these click baity ass youtubers are talking about threads and cloak power yet 80% of us only care about leveling alts and getting mogs/mounts.
I'll be interested to see if froggers killed the game. Personally, I decided to focus on Cata. Just lost interest knowing I'll never catch them.
the scaling is still terrible for me, i was doing a solo scenario and i (68 brewmaster) was doing about 11k damage per second. the three bosses had 5million, 15 million and 9 million health. now go calculate how long it took me to finish that one scenario
ps gem sending per mail, would be great...improves faction points on shaoshao ...these are topics , where you could give out a personal note ,or some sort of community hate :P
I don't care at all about buffing my gear, I just want an actual good source of bronze so that I can buy the cosmetics since that's basically the whole point of the event...
I do really get the idea of saying remix is " stupid throw away fun time" and the blizz being like "you're doing fun wrong!"
Honestly they should just nerf upgrade costs. There's zero chance I'm going to spend the bronze to upgrade and forego getting the cosmetics that were the whole point to me being here.
Well theres already new changes to the bronze caches you get for daily queues and daily quests. they now give greaters at max level giving 1250 ea
They should have made the upgrade costs equivalent to the costs of upgrading using flightstones in DF, that would have made a lot more sense.